@@Mister64the64th yes but page 1 it's comically crying and Ulti was a mistake Oda forget to draw the mask, even so we never see her teeth's. Could be she has the sharp tooth's and page 1 the weld lips.
@@santiagoarrieta2175 No i think he's actually released proper sketches of their faces. Ulti has a super long tongue i remember going around for a while for obvious reasons lol
Scouting is a good one, but also she has the perfect power to set up the cycle of capturing strong people to take their shadow before implanting them into marios. In my opinion, Absolom was the one with the least of a role. Perona hollows people out, Moria takes their shadow, and Hogback creates marios out of corpses. To be fair though, Absolom did lead the biggest zombie army out of the 3 subordinates and is definitely the strongest fighter under Moria that wasn’t a zombie, so maybe he was just first mate or something.
So, kaido killed this mans whole crew and was like "fuck you I'm taking your kids" But yeah having all your friends killed and kids gone is a fairly good excuse to go stagnant like Moria did Shit he probably thought Kaido also murdered his kids I will accept this theory into my one piece cannon
Perona is actually the security system of Thriller Bark. Remember her hollows spotted the Strawhats first. She had hollows set up like cameras so that Moriah could be his last self in peace.
last nakama: " we can't tell or deny thatt franky's dad is queen een tho the ages and the style and the sbs and vivre card information matches perfectly " tcc: " moria was there 20 years ago , fck it we ball , the horns confirms it"
I think Moria could be part fishman/Oni because of his skin color and sharp teeth. That's why his children covered their mouth to hide fishman teeth just like Jack
@@fs400ion there is also Denjiro that was pretending to be Kyoshiro but was actually planning on betraying Orochi all along. And most important of all Yamato betraying Kaido
Perhaps Moria was specifically targeting former rocks pirates as they were the former top dogs of piracy and the most powerfull active well known pirates that were around 20 years ago so they would be a clear target. He has the corpses of Captain John and Silver axe and if he was trying to get Kaido's shadow this would be more proof as Kaido was also a former Rock's pirate as well. And out of really powerfull Rock's pirates Kaido would have been the easiest target as unlike Whitebeard and Big Mom he wasn't as established as a force 20 years ago and thus he would be an easier target.
Thriller Bark was where Kuma was reintroduced so this makes me feel like maybe Oda planned both Moria and his father-daughter relationships at the same time to have them parallel each other
Moria is a army class character afterall similar to Kaito and if the cross guild is perceived as the new generation rocks Pirates then moria would be in charge of the cross guild's artificial numbers of recruitment. Not to mention with Moria's devil fruit it'd be a interesting parallel between bonny and him being the lookalikes of their leaders assuming the cross guild is gonna have a alliance with the blackbeard pirates with the red hair pirates being in one with the strawhats. I say because moria's shadow fruit is practically the downgrade of blackbeard's dark dark fruit. Bonny being a copy cat of luffy's all the same and her father bearing relevance to moria I see bonny fighting moria as a one on one match up.
Buggy vs. Luffy Mihawk vs. Zoro Judge vs. SANJi Green Bull vs. Yamato Weevil or Arlong vs. Jimbe Doflamingo vs. Robin Queen vs. Franky Katakuri vs. Ussopp Stussy or Perona vs. Nami Ceaser Clown vs. Chopper Apoo vs. Brook Gecko Moria vs. Bonny ( yonko twins ) Crocodile vs. Smoker
@@CopingContinuous can't tell if you're just responding or if you actually agree with me, ethier way it's better than getting no replys. Usually people will leave a like a leave, hardly much is talked about further anymore.
It’s like the rest of the mysterious four all represent a version of warped dark love: Absalom and Hogback for obvious creepy reasons. Then you got Perona the “ghost” girl representing the death of Moria’s father daughter relationship with Ulti when Kaido broke him.
There are a few weird thing about Perona. We never know her full name. She is accustomed to live in castles She has her Crown since was a kid and has a Bear as a pet And it's barely 3 years older than Ulti So it's possible she ever lived in the castle of triller bark, likely Gecko Moria picked a destroyed Kingdom to create his ship, and find Perona there, taking her on his crew.
This theory is great. I think we can add these connections as well: - His name is Gecko (lizard), they are Dinosaur zoans. - Yamato beating them is a callback to how Kaido beat Moria. Btw Kaido had too strong of a haki so a Devil Fruit like Moria's would work.
If there is any relation between Ulti and Perona, it's likely as half siblings. Moria met a woman, Perona was already born, he sired Ulti and Page One, and then finally left Wano after he got Ryumas corpse, taking Perona with him, who would have been 5-6 at the time.
After watching the video my personal head canon for how moria and perona relationship developed goes like this: perona at some point ate her df prior to meeting moria she would then use her powers to survive but having ghost powers and negativity she was outcasted by society (and possibly her original caretakers). After the huge defeat by kiado and the loss of his crew morias dreams are crushed and he inheritly becomes an extremely negative person. At some point moria meets this little girl and perhaps saves her from a situation in which she uses her powers against Moria but having no effect on him. With the two meeting and her situation solved they both seem to se something of value in each other and begin their father-daughter relationship Ty if you read this far
I really do like this channel. You really blew me away with the Dorry and Broggy video. I'm getting my family into One Piece just so they can watch that lecture!
*DERESHISHISHI* I don't personally buy that they are sexually involved. Seems more like they are bodybuilder types, they appreciate the warrior form much like the classical philosophers did. ♫ its guy love that's all it is its guy love its mine on his there's nothing gay about it in our eyes You ask me 'bout this thing we share... ...And he tenderly replies It's guy love......between two guys ♪ I won't argue this further now. But anyone that meets me in person. I will die on this hill. I look no further than Mountain Beard and Waterfall Beard. Them dudes lived together as brother in arms for 300 or more years. Its guy love, the kind of bond you only find in a fox hole facing certain death. Not that I am a combat vet and I hope to never find out.
As Moria biggest fan idk how to take this theory. It seems believable enough but something is missing. Like it's not the same as the Queen and Franky connection where everything alines perfectly to the point that it isn't even a theory but just a hidden piece of canon lore. It's possible for Moria to be the father of Ulti and Page One and considering that most of the members of Kaido's crew go by an alias instead of their real names like King, Queen and Who's Who, it's likely that Ulti and Page One aren't even their real names. But this bugs the question where the Oni came from? Who are the mothers of Ulti, Page One and Yamato? Are there links with the giant and the buccaneer races? After all Dorry and Brogy are called the Blue Oni and Red Oni. And Kaido seems as linked to the theme of war just as much as the giants themselves. Are the Onis also from the War-Land? Did Oda mix norse and japanese mythology to create the country of Elbaf? Is there something we had to look for in Wano in preparation for the Elbaf arc?
In the last bit I meant could the Onis be the evil giants from norse mythology that will attack Asgard during the Ragnarok? I mean if the village of Elbaf is already inspired by Asgard (since it can be reached through the Bifrost), maybe the underwold where Loki is chained is inspired by Jötunheimr, where the giants that reprent chaos live
Oars being the continent puller that assembled wano…. Proves that Oda had this AAALL lined up back in thriller back, Kuma and Moria and Kaidou as fathers
I don't think Moria was betraying Kaido but instead I think it was a general 'lets fight' attitude, but Kaido is a literal monster who kills people. I think it was mentioned That Moria and his crew were once bright eyed dreamers just like the Strawhats until they were annihilated, Also didn't Moria say he got the idea after he lost his crew specifically to avoid losing anyone again? Either way I love this video and adore this theory, and I think Moria should pick up his kids.
Bravo it also ties into the fact that if momo wasn’t scared of kaido ,then kaido would have took him underneath his wing. I love kaido as a character and feel compelled to be his task force in this community.
great video❤ i think there's no Oni race exist in one piece world. Oda said "horns are just human traits like a buck teeth" and he also said "i just want drawing interesting faces so pls don't think much about this" in SBS. plus Kaido's line about Oni was also metaphor i think. and could you tell me were's source about "Onion human" part? i searched in japanese but can't find it.
Thankfully I've been engaed with the community forever so I happened to remember the discussion surrounding it, but I also had trouble finding the quote from Oda when making the video. He might call him a shallot human and thats why it doesn't pop up. But if you look through forums you'll see mentions of the onion human quote and he was listed as human on the wiki forever, but this has now been removed as well as all mentions to his possible race. My guess is that it's from one of those "Mysterious Oda Interviews" that no one can find. And without a direct source the wiki removed all confirmations of a certain race. That being said it's definitely Oda's sense of humor and overall vibe, plus it alligns perfectly with the cannon and explains his not quite giant size and horns, and Moria's race is a very disputed subject that I'm certain he would have been asked about repeatedly. And last we also have to take in to account the fact the Oda clearly had parts of Wano planned while writing thriller bark. So if Kaido was already planned to be an Oni who did battle with Moria in Wano, Oda making a joke reveal that hides his true meaning until later on is absolutely perfect. On the other hand it being a random fake quote a fan came up with, feels like one giant coincidence for everything to have perfectly come together lol So while I couldn't find the direct source, there's enough supporting evidence for me.
Dope Theory. I've subscribed to the idea that they are Hanafuda children as he was Kaido's possibly the original supplier for his Zoan devil fruit collection. That would satisfy the "Acquaintance of Kaidos" piece of the backstory. Ulti also stole Ancient Zoan Devil Fruits... possibly from Hanafuda's collection. He's also gone which would satisfy the "eventually died" portion of the backstory. Ulti also has a similar pointed mace to Hanafuda based on his single picture.
Moria is a really underrated character, imho. he’s a really interesting foil for Luffy, and served as an excellent warning about how brutal the New World is. I read a theory that Thriller Bark is God Valley, but I also read that Moria himself might be from God Valley, and be a survivor of the Incident. I’d love to see him show up again in the story!
Between this, the Queen and Franky connection, Zoro and his great-something grandfather, Wano is potentially full of a bunch of unspoken familial connections. Also Wano went without any major betrayals? I think you might of forgotten a couple major plot points.
so we just gonna ignore the actual sbs of hinokizu..who was a tobi roppo? moria was never on kaidos crew why would moria be a tobi roppo like hinokizu… he was always said to collect ancient zoan devil fruits and supply them for kaido. why did u ignore the ENTIRE sbs lmao ? hinokizu is confirmed a former tobi roppo, moria was NEVER on kaidos crew he had his own😭🙏
I love this theory, the evidence made me believe it more than my theory, which is Ulti & P1's dad is Hanafuda, the Warlord that Ace defeated. But Moria makes more sense, since he has horns similar to Ulti's.
@@TheCrapCafe_ Yeah true 😂. I would still want Perona to meet up with Mihawk again as well so it would be cool to add all 4 of them to cross guild. I think they'd all fit in pretty well with all of the other former antagonists.
Gecko Moria is very up there as one of my very favorite characters, Imagine being someone as awful as absalom, and he would still have your back enough that he would raid an emperor's base. Moria is straight up one of the most marriable men in the whole series
@ theres another youtuber called kusoland theories. Both use usopp avatars both have crap related names (kuso in japanese means crap kinda) and both make fire one piece theories
Nah, Page One and Ulti vivre cards in the databooks mention that they were the kids of a friend of kaido's, or something like that. Ulti stole the fruits for her and her brother because she knew they'd need to be strong to survive in kaido's crew. Now, I'm pretty sure Perona is the the daughter of one of moria's former crewmates. Timeline sort of matches up with her age - she would have been very yong when moria lost all his crew and took her in.
This was an interesting theory which makes sense I too had an idea of who could have been their father that being a captain that Kaido knows very well that being Captain John who was a fellow member of the Rocks Pirates, & thought that it would be interesting that what if they did escape from Wano only then to encounter Buggy a man who wanted to find John’s treasure & join cross guild
I can't remember exactly where it was, or maybe I'm mistaken. I think it was from a Vivre card or SBS but I thought Ulti's horns were confirmed as fake and just an aesthetic choice by Ulti to match Kaido. We know her hobby is cosplay. I'd say that's the only possible hole in this theory, but I could be misremembering. Overall, great video!
I love how the Ancient Zoan devil fruit connections line up there and he was the reason I actually started researching this theory after his SBS. But the Timeline doesn't really line up right. As you said he was killed by Ace, and Ulti and Page One were adopted by Kaido when they were much younger
Yeah, it would make much more sense for Moria's depression to be a result of the loss of his own children than his crew. He may show signs of empathy towards his lieutenants, but he wouldn't give a crap about average henchmen.
Mostly I agree as I've been saying that Moria is an oni. Silver Axe is not known to be a zombie on Thriller Bark. There is still a distinction as far as I know between Onis/Orgres and Ancient Giants, what the relationship is remains to be seen. Perona runs surveillance on Thriller Bark and the surrounding sea as all of her Hollows work as a "Ghost Network" camera network. Now the one point I can't refute that people have been bringing up in the comments is that we have not seen the mouths of the siblings in a well enough view to make a judgment call. Which means that they might have mouths that look like Moria's. Otherwise well done, I hope I wasn't too harsh, I would love to have you on the Rose Skull Podcast sometime!
Ancient giants and oni are two different races in the op verse. Not to mention 20 years ago was when the scabbards time jumped and Kaido hadn't arrived yet so he could have picked them up anywhere.
Great vid but I’d vehemently disagree about the meme of “Oda’s women are all Nami clones.” Vivi looks like Nami’s sister because that’s her narrative role in the story. Others only really look like Nami in Toei’s bastardization of Oda’s art. The women of One Piece have incredible depths to their character. I’d highly recommend Melonteee’s vid, “The Women of One Piece”
Considering Moria’s age, and this is a stretch, but maybe Moria is Kaido’s son too? But that’s never hinted at. Also we don’t know Kaido’s age but if its around Big Moms then its possible
And that's why they wear face masks? To cover their crocodilian teeth? Their introduction coincided with the infamous pandemic, so I thought Oda went with the fashion flow. He added a Little League subplot, too.
In the mobile game, One Piece Bounty Rush, Perona was featured as a mirror image when you won a game as Holloween Uta. Perhaps this was a clue to Perona being a MIRROR image of a currently active One Piece character?
This explains why Oda is hiding Ulti and P1's mouth. They have Moria's mouth.
I think we’ve seen there mouths
@@Mister64the64th yes but page 1 it's comically crying and Ulti was a mistake Oda forget to draw the mask, even so we never see her teeth's.
Could be she has the sharp tooth's and page 1 the weld lips.
Now I realized that Page 1 like moria has no eyebrows and the same weird shape were these should go.
@@santiagoarrieta2175 No i think he's actually released proper sketches of their faces. Ulti has a super long tongue i remember going around for a while for obvious reasons lol
The siblings resemblance to Moria could be the reason they wear those mouth coverings.
I feel like Perona's role is scouting since her ghosts are perfect for seeing what ships have powerful people on it.
Scouting is a good one, but also she has the perfect power to set up the cycle of capturing strong people to take their shadow before implanting them into marios. In my opinion, Absolom was the one with the least of a role. Perona hollows people out, Moria takes their shadow, and Hogback creates marios out of corpses.
To be fair though, Absolom did lead the biggest zombie army out of the 3 subordinates and is definitely the strongest fighter under Moria that wasn’t a zombie, so maybe he was just first mate or something.
So, kaido killed this mans whole crew and was like "fuck you I'm taking your kids"
But yeah having all your friends killed and kids gone is a fairly good excuse to go stagnant like Moria did
Shit he probably thought Kaido also murdered his kids
I will accept this theory into my one piece cannon
Perona is actually the security system of Thriller Bark. Remember her hollows spotted the Strawhats first. She had hollows set up like cameras so that Moriah could be his last self in peace.
As a Moria defender, I appreciate this video
Same, I don’t know why I do what I do
last nakama: " we can't tell or deny thatt franky's dad is queen een tho the ages and the style and the sbs and vivre card information matches perfectly "
tcc: " moria was there 20 years ago , fck it we ball , the horns confirms it"
I think Moria could be part fishman/Oni because of his skin color and sharp teeth. That's why his children covered their mouth to hide fishman teeth just like Jack
I mean there WAS a betrayal in Pirate-Samurai-Mink alliance, Kanjuro.
I never trusted that clown lol
And when you think about it X-Drake betrayed Kaido's alliance
So, while I love the rest of this video, that part is flipped, they BOTH have betrayals
@@fs400ion there is also Denjiro that was pretending to be Kyoshiro but was actually planning on betraying Orochi all along. And most important of all Yamato betraying Kaido
Also most of Kaido's underlings switched sides thanks to Chopper and Tama. And there is also that one Number that was a friend of Yamato
This video and Dawn & dusk’s new video about Yamato’s parents are sooo complimentary yall should collab both brilliant
Perhaps Moria was specifically targeting former rocks pirates as they were the former top dogs of piracy and the most powerfull active well known pirates that were around 20 years ago so they would be a clear target. He has the corpses of Captain John and Silver axe and if he was trying to get Kaido's shadow this would be more proof as Kaido was also a former Rock's pirate as well. And out of really powerfull Rock's pirates Kaido would have been the easiest target as unlike Whitebeard and Big Mom he wasn't as established as a force 20 years ago and thus he would be an easier target.
Great theory!
Thriller Bark was where Kuma was reintroduced so this makes me feel like maybe Oda planned both Moria and his father-daughter relationships at the same time to have them parallel each other
Oh shit
Moria is a army class character afterall similar to Kaito and if the cross guild is perceived as the new generation rocks Pirates then moria would be in charge of the cross guild's artificial numbers of recruitment. Not to mention with Moria's devil fruit it'd be a interesting parallel between bonny and him being the lookalikes of their leaders assuming the cross guild is gonna have a alliance with the blackbeard pirates with the red hair pirates being in one with the strawhats. I say because moria's shadow fruit is practically the downgrade of blackbeard's dark dark fruit. Bonny being a copy cat of luffy's all the same and her father bearing relevance to moria I see bonny fighting moria as a one on one match up.
Buggy vs. Luffy
Mihawk vs. Zoro
Judge vs. SANJi
Green Bull vs. Yamato
Weevil or Arlong vs. Jimbe
Doflamingo vs. Robin
Queen vs. Franky
Katakuri vs. Ussopp
Stussy or Perona vs. Nami
Ceaser Clown vs. Chopper
Apoo vs. Brook
Gecko Moria vs. Bonny ( yonko twins )
Crocodile vs. Smoker
@ holy shit
@@CopingContinuous can't tell if you're just responding or if you actually agree with me, ethier way it's better than getting no replys. Usually people will leave a like a leave, hardly much is talked about further anymore.
It’s like the rest of the mysterious four all represent a version of warped dark love: Absalom and Hogback for obvious creepy reasons. Then you got Perona the “ghost” girl representing the death of Moria’s father daughter relationship with Ulti when Kaido broke him.
There are a few weird thing about Perona.
We never know her full name.
She is accustomed to live in castles
She has her Crown since was a kid and has a Bear as a pet
And it's barely 3 years older than Ulti
So it's possible she ever lived in the castle of triller bark, likely Gecko Moria picked a destroyed Kingdom to create his ship, and find Perona there, taking her on his crew.
Thriller Bark is most likly God Valley
@fangsilver1977 oh i forget about that theory, it open other grim possibilities.
This theory is great. I think we can add these connections as well:
- His name is Gecko (lizard), they are Dinosaur zoans.
- Yamato beating them is a callback to how Kaido beat Moria.
Btw Kaido had too strong of a haki so a Devil Fruit like Moria's would work.
If there is any relation between Ulti and Perona, it's likely as half siblings. Moria met a woman, Perona was already born, he sired Ulti and Page One, and then finally left Wano after he got Ryumas corpse, taking Perona with him, who would have been 5-6 at the time.
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@@TheCrapCafe_ trust me I already have
Holy shit this is peak, if this is true I will cry tears of joy. Love my goat moria, not so much his sex offender underlings
Hahaha definitely not the creepy underlings!!
After watching the video my personal head canon for how moria and perona relationship developed goes like this:
perona at some point ate her df prior to meeting moria she would then use her powers to survive but having ghost powers and negativity she was outcasted by society (and possibly her original caretakers). After the huge defeat by kiado and the loss of his crew morias dreams are crushed and he inheritly becomes an extremely negative person. At some point moria meets this little girl and perhaps saves her from a situation in which she uses her powers against Moria but having no effect on him. With the two meeting and her situation solved they both seem to se something of value in each other and begin their father-daughter relationship
Ty if you read this far
Perona's Ghosts not working on Moria is the funniest idea ever!! Love it, so true lol
These are my favorite theories. I love tryna guess what the one piece is, but filling in the gaps in this vast world is so timeless. Awesome theory
Your channel is great, your theories are very unorthodoxy in the community
Appreciate it, I'm glad you enjoy! ☕️
I really do like this channel. You really blew me away with the Dorry and Broggy video. I'm getting my family into One Piece just so they can watch that lecture!
I hope they get the hype! ☕️ Also the start of my Loki video has a few updates for my Dorry and Broggy theory!
*DERESHISHISHI*
I don't personally buy that they are sexually involved. Seems more like they are bodybuilder types, they appreciate the warrior form much like the classical philosophers did.
♫ its guy love that's all it is its guy love its mine on his there's nothing gay about it in our eyes You ask me 'bout this thing we share... ...And he tenderly replies It's guy love......between two guys ♪
I won't argue this further now. But anyone that meets me in person. I will die on this hill. I look no further than Mountain Beard and Waterfall Beard. Them dudes lived together as brother in arms for 300 or more years. Its guy love, the kind of bond you only find in a fox hole facing certain death. Not that I am a combat vet and I hope to never find out.
Let's see what's on the menu today in the Crap Café
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He cooked a mouth savoring meal always bro🙌🏾🤤
This is top 3 theory channels for one piece!!
13:59 WE APPRECIATE THE ABSALOM IGNORING
1:26 I almost spit out my drink LMFAO
As Moria biggest fan idk how to take this theory. It seems believable enough but something is missing. Like it's not the same as the Queen and Franky connection where everything alines perfectly to the point that it isn't even a theory but just a hidden piece of canon lore. It's possible for Moria to be the father of Ulti and Page One and considering that most of the members of Kaido's crew go by an alias instead of their real names like King, Queen and Who's Who, it's likely that Ulti and Page One aren't even their real names. But this bugs the question where the Oni came from? Who are the mothers of Ulti, Page One and Yamato? Are there links with the giant and the buccaneer races? After all Dorry and Brogy are called the Blue Oni and Red Oni. And Kaido seems as linked to the theme of war just as much as the giants themselves. Are the Onis also from the War-Land? Did Oda mix norse and japanese mythology to create the country of Elbaf? Is there something we had to look for in Wano in preparation for the Elbaf arc?
In the last bit I meant could the Onis be the evil giants from norse mythology that will attack Asgard during the Ragnarok? I mean if the village of Elbaf is already inspired by Asgard (since it can be reached through the Bifrost), maybe the underwold where Loki is chained is inspired by Jötunheimr, where the giants that reprent chaos live
Your intro is so dang good man even if you had nothing else I'd have to sub for the intro
Oars being the continent puller that assembled wano…. Proves that Oda had this AAALL lined up back in thriller back, Kuma and Moria and Kaidou as fathers
I love this as I've always loved the fanart of moria being a dad to perona it's so cute
The weakness to this theory is their age. Page One is 20 years old. The battle between Kaido and Moria happened three years before that.
Also that SBS 100 confirms their father died.
I don't think Moria was betraying Kaido but instead I think it was a general 'lets fight' attitude, but Kaido is a literal monster who kills people. I think it was mentioned That Moria and his crew were once bright eyed dreamers just like the Strawhats until they were annihilated, Also didn't Moria say he got the idea after he lost his crew specifically to avoid losing anyone again?
Either way I love this video and adore this theory, and I think Moria should pick up his kids.
Bravo it also ties into the fact that if momo wasn’t scared of kaido ,then kaido would have took him underneath his wing. I love kaido as a character and feel compelled to be his task force in this community.
This is a nice theory and if true i wonder how it would futher develop if Moria joins Cross Guild.
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Thanks! ☕️
Fantastic theory and well researched! Never even considered it and learnt a lot of things too!!🔥🔥🔥
Thank you KusoBrother!! Maybe one day I'll have "Card Piece" Level edits like you!
Underrated theory and channel
Keep it up
Great theory 🔥🔥
Once again, an awesome believable theory!
This is going straight into my headcanon.
great video❤
i think there's no Oni race exist in one piece world. Oda said "horns are just human traits like a buck teeth" and he also said "i just want drawing interesting faces so pls don't think much about this" in SBS. plus Kaido's line about Oni was also metaphor i think.
and could you tell me were's source about "Onion human" part? i searched in japanese but can't find it.
Thankfully I've been engaed with the community forever so I happened to remember the discussion surrounding it, but I also had trouble finding the quote from Oda when making the video. He might call him a shallot human and thats why it doesn't pop up. But if you look through forums you'll see mentions of the onion human quote and he was listed as human on the wiki forever, but this has now been removed as well as all mentions to his possible race. My guess is that it's from one of those "Mysterious Oda Interviews" that no one can find. And without a direct source the wiki removed all confirmations of a certain race.
That being said it's definitely Oda's sense of humor and overall vibe, plus it alligns perfectly with the cannon and explains his not quite giant size and horns, and Moria's race is a very disputed subject that I'm certain he would have been asked about repeatedly. And last we also have to take in to account the fact the Oda clearly had parts of Wano planned while writing thriller bark. So if Kaido was already planned to be an Oni who did battle with Moria in Wano, Oda making a joke reveal that hides his true meaning until later on is absolutely perfect. On the other hand it being a random fake quote a fan came up with, feels like one giant coincidence for everything to have perfectly come together lol
So while I couldn't find the direct source, there's enough supporting evidence for me.
thank you! in japanese manga, Moria called "rakkyo ningen(japanese scallion human)". we never thought he look like a onion, so i little bit confused😊
Dope Theory. I've subscribed to the idea that they are Hanafuda children as he was Kaido's possibly the original supplier for his Zoan devil fruit collection. That would satisfy the "Acquaintance of Kaidos" piece of the backstory. Ulti also stole Ancient Zoan Devil Fruits... possibly from Hanafuda's collection. He's also gone which would satisfy the "eventually died" portion of the backstory. Ulti also has a similar pointed mace to Hanafuda based on his single picture.
Moria is a really underrated character, imho. he’s a really interesting foil for Luffy, and served as an excellent warning about how brutal the New World is. I read a theory that Thriller Bark is God Valley, but I also read that Moria himself might be from God Valley, and be a survivor of the Incident. I’d love to see him show up again in the story!
after listening to this entire video i think you're 100% right this makes too much sense always love the content
Between this, the Queen and Franky connection, Zoro and his great-something grandfather, Wano is potentially full of a bunch of unspoken familial connections.
Also Wano went without any major betrayals? I think you might of forgotten a couple major plot points.
Great analysis as always my dude.
great vid this is rly well thought out
Wow. This is a really good video essay. What great arguments!
kid Page 1 really's got the forehead horns going on
so we just gonna ignore the actual sbs of hinokizu..who was a tobi roppo? moria was never on kaidos crew why would moria be a tobi roppo like hinokizu… he was always said to collect ancient zoan devil fruits and supply them for kaido. why did u ignore the ENTIRE sbs lmao ? hinokizu is confirmed a former tobi roppo, moria was NEVER on kaidos crew he had his own😭🙏
I love this theory, the evidence made me believe it more than my theory, which is Ulti & P1's dad is Hanafuda, the Warlord that Ace defeated. But Moria makes more sense, since he has horns similar to Ulti's.
Nah, Moria fought Kaido 23 years ago, doubt he had 22 years old Ulti back then.
Vivre card ages can change! Numbers and Oda don't always go together lol
It instantly all clicked when I saw the thumbnail, great video. Would be so fun to see Perona and Ulti act like sisters on a crew together.
But Page One might just jump into the sea after dealing with those two all day 😂
@@TheCrapCafe_ Yeah true 😂. I would still want Perona to meet up with Mihawk again as well so it would be cool to add all 4 of them to cross guild. I think they'd all fit in pretty well with all of the other former antagonists.
I enjoyed this video so much! What a well crafted theory. Idk if its true, but having ideas like this makes one piece exciting
Great video 👍🏼
Appreciate it! ☕️
Gecko Moria is very up there as one of my very favorite characters, Imagine being someone as awful as absalom, and he would still have your back enough that he would raid an emperor's base. Moria is straight up one of the most marriable men in the whole series
I looked at this video with the reaction "Why even cook this? There is nothing to cook", and boy DID HE COOK GOOD. THERE IS SOMETHING TO COOK.
Day whatever of asking for the collab. You know the one.
which colllab:0
@ theres another youtuber called kusoland theories. Both use usopp avatars both have crap related names (kuso in japanese means crap kinda) and both make fire one piece theories
My guy is back 🔥
Nah, Page One and Ulti vivre cards in the databooks mention that they were the kids of a friend of kaido's, or something like that. Ulti stole the fruits for her and her brother because she knew they'd need to be strong to survive in kaido's crew.
Now, I'm pretty sure Perona is the the daughter of one of moria's former crewmates. Timeline sort of matches up with her age - she would have been very yong when moria lost all his crew and took her in.
Bruh idk why but every time i see ur intro it brings so much nostalgia to me :|
Finally, a video on the best characters in the 2ano arc.
This was an interesting theory which makes sense I too had an idea of who could have been their father that being a captain that Kaido knows very well that being Captain John who was a fellow member of the Rocks Pirates, & thought that it would be interesting that what if they did escape from Wano only then to encounter Buggy a man who wanted to find John’s treasure & join cross guild
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how long has it been ? btw love your vids the forgotten villans need theories
Good cooking takes time lol
@@TheCrapCafe_ fare enough
I like Moria, he’s one of my favourite characters, and this is a cool theory
I can't remember exactly where it was, or maybe I'm mistaken. I think it was from a Vivre card or SBS but I thought Ulti's horns were confirmed as fake and just an aesthetic choice by Ulti to match Kaido. We know her hobby is cosplay. I'd say that's the only possible hole in this theory, but I could be misremembering. Overall, great video!
I want to hear more about Ulti's horn being fake or not.
Can you find that SBS or Vivre Vard please?
@@fangsilver1977 they're not fake.
I think it's the dead warlord ace killed
But I like your thinking
I love how the Ancient Zoan devil fruit connections line up there and he was the reason I actually started researching this theory after his SBS. But the Timeline doesn't really line up right. As you said he was killed by Ace, and Ulti and Page One were adopted by Kaido when they were much younger
Na
That warlord was defeated, he isn't dead because he is the Man Marked by Aces Flames
@ hmmm, interesting
Yeah, it would make much more sense for Moria's depression to be a result of the loss of his own children than his crew. He may show signs of empathy towards his lieutenants, but he wouldn't give a crap about average henchmen.
Oda does confirm in a SBS that Perona looks at Moria as a father figure (or that they have a father/daughter relationship)
If this theory isn't true, it's at the very least very compelling.
Mostly I agree as I've been saying that Moria is an oni. Silver Axe is not known to be a zombie on Thriller Bark. There is still a distinction as far as I know between Onis/Orgres and Ancient Giants, what the relationship is remains to be seen. Perona runs surveillance on Thriller Bark and the surrounding sea as all of her Hollows work as a "Ghost Network" camera network. Now the one point I can't refute that people have been bringing up in the comments is that we have not seen the mouths of the siblings in a well enough view to make a judgment call. Which means that they might have mouths that look like Moria's. Otherwise well done, I hope I wasn't too harsh, I would love to have you on the Rose Skull Podcast sometime!
I lowkey assumed they both died after getting walloped by big mom and after the place burnt💀
Ancient giants and oni are two different races in the op verse. Not to mention 20 years ago was when the scabbards time jumped and Kaido hadn't arrived yet so he could have picked them up anywhere.
bro is COOKING a 89 course Meal
I don't think you've ever missed. I consider your theories as canon.
What do you mean we don't know if Perona succeeded? We know Blackbeard said Moria escaped
Even Better!
@TheCrapCafe_ Yes!!
great theory!
Maybe it's just me, but I don't know any other theorist who makes such good reasoning behind a theory... feels like hidden canon
I try my best ☕️
The best crap on TH-cam is back❤
Ok…I’m listening
As a Fan of Moria and Sad dads
This slaps
The One Piece wiki says that Ulti and Page One's father died, and that Gecko Moria invaded Wano 23 years ago. Although, this could be a mistake
This isn’t a mistake, it was confirmed in the sbs for volume 100.
Great vid but I’d vehemently disagree about the meme of “Oda’s women are all Nami clones.” Vivi looks like Nami’s sister because that’s her narrative role in the story. Others only really look like Nami in Toei’s bastardization of Oda’s art. The women of One Piece have incredible depths to their character. I’d highly recommend Melonteee’s vid, “The Women of One Piece”
Funny unrelated thing, pirates treasure is marked with X and kaido and luffy have an x scar but kaidos is off center
I always thought it was Morias devil fruit that made him look like that
Wow, this is a good one.
You cooked, great theory
Thanks!! ☕️
Considering Moria’s age, and this is a stretch, but maybe Moria is Kaido’s son too? But that’s never hinted at. Also we don’t know Kaido’s age but if its around Big Moms then its possible
Big Mom's going straight to jail if so 😅
I was convinced they where Hanafuda’s kids but I like this better
I really like this theory and hope it’s true.
Anyone notice, that blackbeard's Three skulls are a common motif in this video?
Did thriller bark have a log motifin it's boat design?
ahah we dont talk about absolom here got me
And that's why they wear face masks? To cover their crocodilian teeth? Their introduction coincided with the infamous pandemic, so I thought Oda went with the fashion flow. He added a Little League subplot, too.
In the mobile game, One Piece Bounty Rush, Perona was featured as a mirror image when you won a game as Holloween Uta. Perhaps this was a clue to Perona being a MIRROR image of a currently active One Piece character?
Wow!! That's incredible, I had no idea, but it definitely ties them together even more now!!
Oda always letting one piece game developers put in little hints about certain characters and potential future stuff
Yes I agree with everything that you said
What is the sogeking theme song remix called?
its the OG Version, just the instrumental!! ☕️
Who let this man cook?!
Bc this meal is DELICIOUS
Same hairstyle.
Literally couldn't be more different
Now Moria will steal Kaido and Big Mom's bodies and put shadows on them