@@Mister64the64th yes but page 1 it's comically crying and Ulti was a mistake Oda forget to draw the mask, even so we never see her teeth's. Could be she has the sharp tooth's and page 1 the weld lips.
@@santiagoarrieta2175 No i think he's actually released proper sketches of their faces. Ulti has a super long tongue i remember going around for a while for obvious reasons lol
Scouting is a good one, but also she has the perfect power to set up the cycle of capturing strong people to take their shadow before implanting them into marios. In my opinion, Absolom was the one with the least of a role. Perona hollows people out, Moria takes their shadow, and Hogback creates marios out of corpses. To be fair though, Absolom did lead the biggest zombie army out of the 3 subordinates and is definitely the strongest fighter under Moria that wasn’t a zombie, so maybe he was just first mate or something.
After watching the video my personal head canon for how moria and perona relationship developed goes like this: perona at some point ate her df prior to meeting moria she would then use her powers to survive but having ghost powers and negativity she was outcasted by society (and possibly her original caretakers). After the huge defeat by kiado and the loss of his crew morias dreams are crushed and he inheritly becomes an extremely negative person. At some point moria meets this little girl and perhaps saves her from a situation in which she uses her powers against Moria but having no effect on him. With the two meeting and her situation solved they both seem to se something of value in each other and begin their father-daughter relationship Ty if you read this far
Perhaps Moria was specifically targeting former rocks pirates as they were the former top dogs of piracy and the most powerfull active well known pirates that were around 20 years ago so they would be a clear target. He has the corpses of Captain John and Silver axe and if he was trying to get Kaido's shadow this would be more proof as Kaido was also a former Rock's pirate as well. And out of really powerfull Rock's pirates Kaido would have been the easiest target as unlike Whitebeard and Big Mom he wasn't as established as a force 20 years ago and thus he would be an easier target.
It’s like the rest of the mysterious four all represent a version of warped dark love: Absalom and Hogback for obvious creepy reasons. Then you got Perona the “ghost” girl representing the death of Moria’s father daughter relationship with Ulti when Kaido broke him.
Thriller Bark was where Kuma was reintroduced so this makes me feel like maybe Oda planned both Moria and his father-daughter relationships at the same time to have them parallel each other
Moria is a army class character afterall similar to Kaito and if the cross guild is perceived as the new generation rocks Pirates then moria would be in charge of the cross guild's artificial numbers of recruitment. Not to mention with Moria's devil fruit it'd be a interesting parallel between bonny and him being the lookalikes of their leaders assuming the cross guild is gonna have a alliance with the blackbeard pirates with the red hair pirates being in one with the strawhats. I say because moria's shadow fruit is practically the downgrade of blackbeard's dark dark fruit. Bonny being a copy cat of luffy's all the same and her father bearing relevance to moria I see bonny fighting moria as a one on one match up.
Buggy vs. Luffy Mihawk vs. Zoro Judge vs. SANJi Green Bull vs. Yamato Weevil or Arlong vs. Jimbe Doflamingo vs. Robin Queen vs. Franky Katakuri vs. Ussopp Stussy or Perona vs. Nami Ceaser Clown vs. Chopper Apoo vs. Brook Gecko Moria vs. Bonny ( yonko twins ) Crocodile vs. Smoker
@@CopingContinuous can't tell if you're just responding or if you actually agree with me, ethier way it's better than getting no replys. Usually people will leave a like a leave, hardly much is talked about further anymore.
There are a few weird thing about Perona. We never know her full name. She is accustomed to live in castles She has her Crown since was a kid and has a Bear as a pet And it's barely 3 years older than Ulti So it's possible she ever lived in the castle of triller bark, likely Gecko Moria picked a destroyed Kingdom to create his ship, and find Perona there, taking her on his crew.
last nakama: " we can't tell or deny thatt franky's dad is queen een tho the ages and the style and the sbs and vivre card information matches perfectly " tcc: " moria was there 20 years ago , fck it we ball , the horns confirms it"
Perona is actually the security system of Thriller Bark. Remember her hollows spotted the Strawhats first. She had hollows set up like cameras so that Moriah could be his last self in peace.
I think Moria could be part fishman/Oni because of his skin color and sharp teeth. That's why his children covered their mouth to hide fishman teeth just like Jack
If there is any relation between Ulti and Perona, it's likely as half siblings. Moria met a woman, Perona was already born, he sired Ulti and Page One, and then finally left Wano after he got Ryumas corpse, taking Perona with him, who would have been 5-6 at the time.
Oars being the continent puller that assembled wano…. Proves that Oda had this AAALL lined up back in thriller back, Kuma and Moria and Kaidou as fathers
I really do like this channel. You really blew me away with the Dorry and Broggy video. I'm getting my family into One Piece just so they can watch that lecture!
*DERESHISHISHI* I don't personally buy that they are sexually involved. Seems more like they are bodybuilder types, they appreciate the warrior form much like the classical philosophers did. ♫ its guy love that's all it is its guy love its mine on his there's nothing gay about it in our eyes You ask me 'bout this thing we share... ...And he tenderly replies It's guy love......between two guys ♪ I won't argue this further now. But anyone that meets me in person. I will die on this hill. I look no further than Mountain Beard and Waterfall Beard. Them dudes lived together as brother in arms for 300 or more years. Its guy love, the kind of bond you only find in a fox hole facing certain death. Not that I am a combat vet and I hope to never find out.
Bravo it also ties into the fact that if momo wasn’t scared of kaido ,then kaido would have took him underneath his wing. I love kaido as a character and feel compelled to be his task force in this community.
So, kaido killed this mans whole crew and was like "fuck you I'm taking your kids" But yeah having all your friends killed and kids gone is a fairly good excuse to go stagnant like Moria did Shit he probably thought Kaido also murdered his kids I will accept this theory into my one piece cannon
I can't remember exactly where it was, or maybe I'm mistaken. I think it was from a Vivre card or SBS but I thought Ulti's horns were confirmed as fake and just an aesthetic choice by Ulti to match Kaido. We know her hobby is cosplay. I'd say that's the only possible hole in this theory, but I could be misremembering. Overall, great video!
@ theres another youtuber called kusoland theories. Both use usopp avatars both have crap related names (kuso in japanese means crap kinda) and both make fire one piece theories
This was an interesting theory which makes sense I too had an idea of who could have been their father that being a captain that Kaido knows very well that being Captain John who was a fellow member of the Rocks Pirates, & thought that it would be interesting that what if they did escape from Wano only then to encounter Buggy a man who wanted to find John’s treasure & join cross guild
Mostly I agree as I've been saying that Moria is an oni. Silver Axe is not known to be a zombie on Thriller Bark. There is still a distinction as far as I know between Onis/Orgres and Ancient Giants, what the relationship is remains to be seen. Perona runs surveillance on Thriller Bark and the surrounding sea as all of her Hollows work as a "Ghost Network" camera network. Now the one point I can't refute that people have been bringing up in the comments is that we have not seen the mouths of the siblings in a well enough view to make a judgment call. Which means that they might have mouths that look like Moria's. Otherwise well done, I hope I wasn't too harsh, I would love to have you on the Rose Skull Podcast sometime!
Ancient giants and oni are two different races in the op verse. Not to mention 20 years ago was when the scabbards time jumped and Kaido hadn't arrived yet so he could have picked them up anywhere.
I don't think Moria was betraying Kaido but instead I think it was a general 'lets fight' attitude, but Kaido is a literal monster who kills people. I think it was mentioned That Moria and his crew were once bright eyed dreamers just like the Strawhats until they were annihilated, Also didn't Moria say he got the idea after he lost his crew specifically to avoid losing anyone again? Either way I love this video and adore this theory, and I think Moria should pick up his kids.
Between this, the Queen and Franky connection, Zoro and his great-something grandfather, Wano is potentially full of a bunch of unspoken familial connections. Also Wano went without any major betrayals? I think you might of forgotten a couple major plot points.
Considering Moria’s age, and this is a stretch, but maybe Moria is Kaido’s son too? But that’s never hinted at. Also we don’t know Kaido’s age but if its around Big Moms then its possible
Great vid but I’d vehemently disagree about the meme of “Oda’s women are all Nami clones.” Vivi looks like Nami’s sister because that’s her narrative role in the story. Others only really look like Nami in Toei’s bastardization of Oda’s art. The women of One Piece have incredible depths to their character. I’d highly recommend Melonteee’s vid, “The Women of One Piece”
Yeah, it would make much more sense for Moria's depression to be a result of the loss of his own children than his crew. He may show signs of empathy towards his lieutenants, but he wouldn't give a crap about average henchmen.
And that's why they wear face masks? To cover their crocodilian teeth? Their introduction coincided with the infamous pandemic, so I thought Oda went with the fashion flow. He added a Little League subplot, too.
great video, but, "even the samurai-pirate-mink alliance went off without a hitch" is wrong, there was a betrayal, Kanjuro. Good stuff otherwise, this just felt weird to leave out xoxo
In the mobile game, One Piece Bounty Rush, Perona was featured as a mirror image when you won a game as Holloween Uta. Perhaps this was a clue to Perona being a MIRROR image of a currently active One Piece character?
He was actually one of the people I looked into!! But because Ulti & Page One don't know who their father is it's probably not him, since Ace is the one who defeated him only a handful of years ago.
I don't see why this would be more likely than them being Hanafuda's children.Particularly since they have neither Moriah's massive height not his pure white skin tone.
This explains why Oda is hiding Ulti and P1's mouth. They have Moria's mouth.
I think we’ve seen there mouths
@@Mister64the64th yes but page 1 it's comically crying and Ulti was a mistake Oda forget to draw the mask, even so we never see her teeth's.
Could be she has the sharp tooth's and page 1 the weld lips.
Now I realized that Page 1 like moria has no eyebrows and the same weird shape were these should go.
@@santiagoarrieta2175 No i think he's actually released proper sketches of their faces. Ulti has a super long tongue i remember going around for a while for obvious reasons lol
I feel like Perona's role is scouting since her ghosts are perfect for seeing what ships have powerful people on it.
Scouting is a good one, but also she has the perfect power to set up the cycle of capturing strong people to take their shadow before implanting them into marios. In my opinion, Absolom was the one with the least of a role. Perona hollows people out, Moria takes their shadow, and Hogback creates marios out of corpses.
To be fair though, Absolom did lead the biggest zombie army out of the 3 subordinates and is definitely the strongest fighter under Moria that wasn’t a zombie, so maybe he was just first mate or something.
The siblings resemblance to Moria could be the reason they wear those mouth coverings.
After watching the video my personal head canon for how moria and perona relationship developed goes like this:
perona at some point ate her df prior to meeting moria she would then use her powers to survive but having ghost powers and negativity she was outcasted by society (and possibly her original caretakers). After the huge defeat by kiado and the loss of his crew morias dreams are crushed and he inheritly becomes an extremely negative person. At some point moria meets this little girl and perhaps saves her from a situation in which she uses her powers against Moria but having no effect on him. With the two meeting and her situation solved they both seem to se something of value in each other and begin their father-daughter relationship
Ty if you read this far
Perhaps Moria was specifically targeting former rocks pirates as they were the former top dogs of piracy and the most powerfull active well known pirates that were around 20 years ago so they would be a clear target. He has the corpses of Captain John and Silver axe and if he was trying to get Kaido's shadow this would be more proof as Kaido was also a former Rock's pirate as well. And out of really powerfull Rock's pirates Kaido would have been the easiest target as unlike Whitebeard and Big Mom he wasn't as established as a force 20 years ago and thus he would be an easier target.
Great theory!
As a Moria defender, I appreciate this video
It’s like the rest of the mysterious four all represent a version of warped dark love: Absalom and Hogback for obvious creepy reasons. Then you got Perona the “ghost” girl representing the death of Moria’s father daughter relationship with Ulti when Kaido broke him.
“Babe wake up, new crap cafe video dropped”
Thriller Bark was where Kuma was reintroduced so this makes me feel like maybe Oda planned both Moria and his father-daughter relationships at the same time to have them parallel each other
Oh shit
Moria is a army class character afterall similar to Kaito and if the cross guild is perceived as the new generation rocks Pirates then moria would be in charge of the cross guild's artificial numbers of recruitment. Not to mention with Moria's devil fruit it'd be a interesting parallel between bonny and him being the lookalikes of their leaders assuming the cross guild is gonna have a alliance with the blackbeard pirates with the red hair pirates being in one with the strawhats. I say because moria's shadow fruit is practically the downgrade of blackbeard's dark dark fruit. Bonny being a copy cat of luffy's all the same and her father bearing relevance to moria I see bonny fighting moria as a one on one match up.
Buggy vs. Luffy
Mihawk vs. Zoro
Judge vs. SANJi
Green Bull vs. Yamato
Weevil or Arlong vs. Jimbe
Doflamingo vs. Robin
Queen vs. Franky
Katakuri vs. Ussopp
Stussy or Perona vs. Nami
Ceaser Clown vs. Chopper
Apoo vs. Brook
Gecko Moria vs. Bonny ( yonko twins )
Crocodile vs. Smoker
@ holy shit
@@CopingContinuous can't tell if you're just responding or if you actually agree with me, ethier way it's better than getting no replys. Usually people will leave a like a leave, hardly much is talked about further anymore.
I mean there WAS a betrayal in Pirate-Samurai-Mink alliance, Kanjuro.
I never trusted that clown lol
And when you think about it X-Drake betrayed Kaido's alliance
So, while I love the rest of this video, that part is flipped, they BOTH have betrayals
There are a few weird thing about Perona.
We never know her full name.
She is accustomed to live in castles
She has her Crown since was a kid and has a Bear as a pet
And it's barely 3 years older than Ulti
So it's possible she ever lived in the castle of triller bark, likely Gecko Moria picked a destroyed Kingdom to create his ship, and find Perona there, taking her on his crew.
Thriller Bark is most likly God Valley
@fangsilver1977 oh i forget about that theory, it open other grim possibilities.
last nakama: " we can't tell or deny thatt franky's dad is queen een tho the ages and the style and the sbs and vivre card information matches perfectly "
tcc: " moria was there 20 years ago , fck it we ball , the horns confirms it"
Perona is actually the security system of Thriller Bark. Remember her hollows spotted the Strawhats first. She had hollows set up like cameras so that Moriah could be his last self in peace.
I think Moria could be part fishman/Oni because of his skin color and sharp teeth. That's why his children covered their mouth to hide fishman teeth just like Jack
If there is any relation between Ulti and Perona, it's likely as half siblings. Moria met a woman, Perona was already born, he sired Ulti and Page One, and then finally left Wano after he got Ryumas corpse, taking Perona with him, who would have been 5-6 at the time.
These are my favorite theories. I love tryna guess what the one piece is, but filling in the gaps in this vast world is so timeless. Awesome theory
This is top 3 theory channels for one piece!!
Oars being the continent puller that assembled wano…. Proves that Oda had this AAALL lined up back in thriller back, Kuma and Moria and Kaidou as fathers
I really do like this channel. You really blew me away with the Dorry and Broggy video. I'm getting my family into One Piece just so they can watch that lecture!
I hope they get the hype! ☕️ Also the start of my Loki video has a few updates for my Dorry and Broggy theory!
*DERESHISHISHI*
I don't personally buy that they are sexually involved. Seems more like they are bodybuilder types, they appreciate the warrior form much like the classical philosophers did.
♫ its guy love that's all it is its guy love its mine on his there's nothing gay about it in our eyes You ask me 'bout this thing we share... ...And he tenderly replies It's guy love......between two guys ♪
I won't argue this further now. But anyone that meets me in person. I will die on this hill. I look no further than Mountain Beard and Waterfall Beard. Them dudes lived together as brother in arms for 300 or more years. Its guy love, the kind of bond you only find in a fox hole facing certain death. Not that I am a combat vet and I hope to never find out.
I love this as I've always loved the fanart of moria being a dad to perona it's so cute
This video and Dawn & dusk’s new video about Yamato’s parents are sooo complimentary yall should collab both brilliant
Your channel is great, your theories are very unorthodoxy in the community
Appreciate it, I'm glad you enjoy! ☕️
Your intro is so dang good man even if you had nothing else I'd have to sub for the intro
Bro you need more subscribers, you are one of my favorite one piece creators.
Glad you enjoyed the video! ☕️ Tell a friend lol 😜
@@TheCrapCafe_ trust me I already have
Holy shit this is peak, if this is true I will cry tears of joy. Love my goat moria, not so much his sex offender underlings
Hahaha definitely not the creepy underlings!!
Let's see what's on the menu today in the Crap Café
a 5 course meal
michelin star cooking
peak as always
He cooked a mouth savoring meal always bro🙌🏾🤤
13:59 WE APPRECIATE THE ABSALOM IGNORING
1:26 I almost spit out my drink LMFAO
You cooked bro love the content
Bravo it also ties into the fact that if momo wasn’t scared of kaido ,then kaido would have took him underneath his wing. I love kaido as a character and feel compelled to be his task force in this community.
Once again, an awesome believable theory!
This is going straight into my headcanon.
So, kaido killed this mans whole crew and was like "fuck you I'm taking your kids"
But yeah having all your friends killed and kids gone is a fairly good excuse to go stagnant like Moria did
Shit he probably thought Kaido also murdered his kids
I will accept this theory into my one piece cannon
Great analysis as always my dude.
great vid this is rly well thought out
This is a nice theory and if true i wonder how it would futher develop if Moria joins Cross Guild.
Wow. This is a really good video essay. What great arguments!
It instantly all clicked when I saw the thumbnail, great video. Would be so fun to see Perona and Ulti act like sisters on a crew together.
Great theory 🔥🔥
I can't remember exactly where it was, or maybe I'm mistaken. I think it was from a Vivre card or SBS but I thought Ulti's horns were confirmed as fake and just an aesthetic choice by Ulti to match Kaido. We know her hobby is cosplay. I'd say that's the only possible hole in this theory, but I could be misremembering. Overall, great video!
I want to hear more about Ulti's horn being fake or not.
Can you find that SBS or Vivre Vard please?
@@fangsilver1977 they're not fake.
LETS GOOOO MORE PEAKKKKK 🔥🔥🔥
Day whatever of asking for the collab. You know the one.
which colllab:0
@ theres another youtuber called kusoland theories. Both use usopp avatars both have crap related names (kuso in japanese means crap kinda) and both make fire one piece theories
I looked at this video with the reaction "Why even cook this? There is nothing to cook", and boy DID HE COOK GOOD. THERE IS SOMETHING TO COOK.
Bruh idk why but every time i see ur intro it brings so much nostalgia to me :|
This was an interesting theory which makes sense I too had an idea of who could have been their father that being a captain that Kaido knows very well that being Captain John who was a fellow member of the Rocks Pirates, & thought that it would be interesting that what if they did escape from Wano only then to encounter Buggy a man who wanted to find John’s treasure & join cross guild
Finally, a video on the best characters in the 2ano arc.
My guy is back 🔥
If this theory isn't true, it's at the very least very compelling.
Mostly I agree as I've been saying that Moria is an oni. Silver Axe is not known to be a zombie on Thriller Bark. There is still a distinction as far as I know between Onis/Orgres and Ancient Giants, what the relationship is remains to be seen. Perona runs surveillance on Thriller Bark and the surrounding sea as all of her Hollows work as a "Ghost Network" camera network. Now the one point I can't refute that people have been bringing up in the comments is that we have not seen the mouths of the siblings in a well enough view to make a judgment call. Which means that they might have mouths that look like Moria's. Otherwise well done, I hope I wasn't too harsh, I would love to have you on the Rose Skull Podcast sometime!
Nah, Moria fought Kaido 23 years ago, doubt he had 22 years old Ulti back then.
Vivre card ages can change! Numbers and Oda don't always go together lol
how long has it been ? btw love your vids the forgotten villans need theories
Good cooking takes time lol
@@TheCrapCafe_ fare enough
I think it's the dead warlord ace killed
But I like your thinking
What do you mean we don't know if Perona succeeded? We know Blackbeard said Moria escaped
Even Better!
@TheCrapCafe_ Yes!!
great theory!
Ancient giants and oni are two different races in the op verse. Not to mention 20 years ago was when the scabbards time jumped and Kaido hadn't arrived yet so he could have picked them up anywhere.
I don't think Moria was betraying Kaido but instead I think it was a general 'lets fight' attitude, but Kaido is a literal monster who kills people. I think it was mentioned That Moria and his crew were once bright eyed dreamers just like the Strawhats until they were annihilated, Also didn't Moria say he got the idea after he lost his crew specifically to avoid losing anyone again?
Either way I love this video and adore this theory, and I think Moria should pick up his kids.
Maybe it's just me, but I don't know any other theorist who makes such good reasoning behind a theory... feels like hidden canon
bro is COOKING a 89 course Meal
Wow, this is a good one.
Between this, the Queen and Franky connection, Zoro and his great-something grandfather, Wano is potentially full of a bunch of unspoken familial connections.
Also Wano went without any major betrayals? I think you might of forgotten a couple major plot points.
Ok…I’m listening
Considering Moria’s age, and this is a stretch, but maybe Moria is Kaido’s son too? But that’s never hinted at. Also we don’t know Kaido’s age but if its around Big Moms then its possible
Great vid but I’d vehemently disagree about the meme of “Oda’s women are all Nami clones.” Vivi looks like Nami’s sister because that’s her narrative role in the story. Others only really look like Nami in Toei’s bastardization of Oda’s art. The women of One Piece have incredible depths to their character. I’d highly recommend Melonteee’s vid, “The Women of One Piece”
ahah we dont talk about absolom here got me
Funny unrelated thing, pirates treasure is marked with X and kaido and luffy have an x scar but kaidos is off center
I always thought it was Morias devil fruit that made him look like that
Yeah, it would make much more sense for Moria's depression to be a result of the loss of his own children than his crew. He may show signs of empathy towards his lieutenants, but he wouldn't give a crap about average henchmen.
I was convinced they where Hanafuda’s kids but I like this better
Oda has already shown us their dad
Yes I agree with everything that you said
kid Page 1 really's got the forehead horns going on
Perona is a scout with her ghost
And that's why they wear face masks? To cover their crocodilian teeth? Their introduction coincided with the infamous pandemic, so I thought Oda went with the fashion flow. He added a Little League subplot, too.
Perona is one of the best intelligence agents.
Who let this man cook?!
Bc this meal is DELICIOUS
purple hair 😲
The thimbnail broke my mind
Oh shit oars being found in wano would be wild
Same hairstyle.
Literally couldn't be more different
Now Moria will steal Kaido and Big Mom's bodies and put shadows on them
Great video but who is the mother?
Given the height difference between the siblings and Moria, it's probably a random Human Woman that was on his crew.
great video, but, "even the samurai-pirate-mink alliance went off without a hitch" is wrong, there was a betrayal, Kanjuro. Good stuff otherwise, this just felt weird to leave out xoxo
oh god is this ceric artman for one piece
Bro cooked today
Bruh kanjuro betrays the pirate alliance
I think oni and ancient giants are separate personally
the betrayal was Appo
In the mobile game, One Piece Bounty Rush, Perona was featured as a mirror image when you won a game as Holloween Uta. Perhaps this was a clue to Perona being a MIRROR image of a currently active One Piece character?
Wow!! That's incredible, I had no idea, but it definitely ties them together even more now!!
Oda always letting one piece game developers put in little hints about certain characters and potential future stuff
Peronna is a lot like bonney
I thought that these where Buggy's siblings
Can a lunarian zombie use the flame ability.
Shallothead??? Someone call momma drawk
Holy shit
a comment just because i am second
Another deadbeat
My theory was page1 n ulti were kid lost family
I can't wait to make a Kidd theory eventually! I'm also calling it now that he's still alive
'my theiry senses' lmaoo
Couldnt Hanafuda be their father?
He was actually one of the people I looked into!! But because Ulti & Page One don't know who their father is it's probably not him, since Ace is the one who defeated him only a handful of years ago.
when did they say they didnt know?
@@Hippleton never. They most likly know who their father is, lol.
I don't see why this would be more likely than them being Hanafuda's children.Particularly since they have neither Moriah's massive height not his pure white skin tone.
Onion meaning Oni has some disturbing implications relating to Robin’s powers
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