Most eroge don't include deep reflections on the concept of heroism, nor do they include a magic system which is able to unite, to some extent, the traditions and histories of various cultures around the world
I agree that adult games are to guys what smutty romance novels are to women. I've been working in this industry for about 6 years now and it's been hands-down the favorite job I've ever had. I get to work with wonderful artists, have an outlet for my creativity and earn a decent living wage. The difference between a game like this and just going on the hub is that you get to know and connect to characters. Suddenly there's more emotional attachment to them making the time investment and payoff mean so much more. I love this industry and hope I can continue working in it for a long time.
Pretty much this. In fact, I'd go out and say that by having characters worth caring about, it makes the eroticism feel completed. Like actually showing that sexuality is part of the human experience
Casual player: so I farmed money via beating up NPCs and selling their stuff. There are certain points on the map where you can kill enough NPCs to fill your inventory every eight minutes, and there's a shop closeby that buys everything you looted. What did you play on the weekend? Dating sim player: there was this beautiful but shy girl, who turns out, has some really hardcore traumas, and I tried to be there for her to turn her self-sabotage journey into a self-healing one. In the end we fell in love and had sex. Casual player: wtf is wrong you? Why do you play sick games like that?!
Haha yeah that encapsulates how alot of peoplle are taught to be shamed of their body and stuff. To prefer to point judgement instead of understanding. Gets hard man. I feel ya
@@silver1340 because loving means opening your heart, showing your desires. being vulnerable in short. And most people can't deal with the idea that they aren't in control. Being absurdly violent is just easy in comparison.
A lot of people thinks they are just "press x and f*ck" games but damn, there are some really great games out there. I, personally, prefer a game like Eternum over most of new Ubisoft games if not all. One of my problems is, its hard to bring up those games to your friends and family.
I prefer 2d games than 3d but yeah there are also alot of good 3d one. Also same as me dude, cant bring this up into my normies friend, let alone my family. Really had a hard time sharing this things into anyone at this point which is kinda sad.
Why its hard to bring those games to your friends? Would they not have some things in common with you? Besides Erenum is one of the better games, ALL GAMES i played in my life. Multiple interesting people (I LOVE LOLIS yet the redhead in the game made me sad i passed on her story.) Multiple different areas with different settings from horror/gothic, medieval/fantasy, cyberpunk/futuristic to cowboy/western I played this game 7 months ago and i still remember it fondly and i will have to replay it all when it finally finishes in few years i guess (i will need to include the redhead story as damn she may be a hag but she is cute.) When you have to pay for garbage like forspoken or dustborn or other dei shit something like this for free should be promoted to any gamer.
If you haven't already, you should check out a game called "flipwitch: forbidden sex hex". Bought the soundtrack first, then just had to buy the game. Really fun game with a cool 2D pixel art style with lots of vibrant colors that really matches the energy and style of the bubbly soundtrack
@@tahaumut95 then there's that one guy with a fully public steam account that's just all nekopara games completed with every success, DLCs and 5000 words reviews of each game.
@@mattheww1930 Did you play "Acting Lessons" by Dr.P? If not, i'm not saying anything else now...other than, play it, it's complete, you wont regret it...well maybe you will for ...reasons.
That's the power of post-nut clarity. The content between hyper-detailed sex scenes is typically written post-goon-session by the author, meaning they're at their creative and introspective apex now that the horny isn't there to distract them. Same reason comments on the hub are so fucking chill.
That's me after playing Hoshi Ori Yume Mirai. I was expecting some run-of-the-mill childhood friend route and all of the sudden got a message about self-improvement from a girl who grows up bound to her bed due to pediatric asthma and her thanking her parents at her wedding for helping her overcome the childhood hardship. I'm like wtf, this story would have been so motivational for any child growing up with early illness but I'm getting it in a game where you also see the main character impregnates this girl (wholesomely of course, they married).
In terms of the audience I feel that romance targeted for men is so scarce that the adult game space dominates and resonates with so many because of that scarcity. There's definitely something to be said of the allure of adult content but I find the reason these kinds of games are often heavily narrative focused is due to a desire for something more complex and emotionally driven than something you can find on orange youtube. That and barrier of entry is lower to not need to design levels, mechanics, and physics.
Weirdly enough, I think you hit on the market overlap we see here. Because romance is so heavily stigmatized as a genre to peruse for men, the only place it shows up is in this space and written word... though I suspect there's no publishing houses making money off that market outside of digital sales.
@@yoggothemadgod6196 This, so much this! Every zoomer is cope seethe rent freeing the coomer doomers and sneed feed and seed, they're locked and KEYED and SOVL and /pol/cel bloomer soulless slop kino peak fiction!
I cannot stand pure romance stories. But give me any kind of other story and put a heavy dose of romance in it I'm game. This is how I found out I actually like reading romance. A book tricked me into reading it promising a cool fantasy story but then pretty much solved the core problem in the first few chapters and I got sucked into the romance of 2 adventurers' daily life together.
@@Sorain1 I think it most likely has to do with USA's puritan culture & their adherence to 1 Corinthians 13:11 . Anything that isn't considered work or grown up, is treated as wasteful or a sin. It's a puritanism that's specific to the USA. Other Christian nations like France, Italy or Spain are much less judgmental against cartoons, because they focus on aesthetics (the indie game Blasphemous is very Catholic.) over the puritanical belief systems of the USA.
It checks out, I'm friends with H-Mangaka, and they take plot structure very seriously; for them, it's not, "and then they banged." it's all about building and character. Heck, if you took away the h-stuff from one of my friends' work, it surprisingly works as a well-written horror story
A lot of mangakas start out drawing hentai before they move on to "normie" stuff actually. For example Nanashi (or 774) the author of Nagatoro-san made like half a dozen of 18+ doujins before he started working on the aforementioned series.
@@corryjamieson3909 I mean, considering bro wrote 3 different h-mangas with the same character, I'm pretty sure he just likes it. Unless you mean the Nagatoro manga, then I guess a bit, since they do have deadlines to keep, but it's not like he got commissioned to do it.
First adult game I played was Sword of Succubus, a Legend of Zelda like game where you play as a succubus who gets a hero's legendary sword and thus saves the land. The game is, actually rather unique in its story, and as a female gamer, I enjoy it and a lot of the games I've played from this company because of how empowering they are.
@@okaminokuro You couldn't beat it because the publisher complained that the game was too easy, when it was suppose to be easy. Try playing the Original difficulty mode, that's how the game was intended to be played upon first release.
I think one other problem these adult games could be facing is that they might also be competing with fan service games like snowbreak or azar lane. Those games dont have those spicy scenes but they make up for it by having much higher quality and fill multiple different genres where as adult games are mostly VN's or rpg maker games.
Ecchi will always have its place. Sometimes it's more fun to tease and poke fun endearingly than it is to be completely out there. It's all about the skill of use.
The thing about the lack of open acceptance of adult games is that people still can't see games as anything more than a holdover from a childhood that we refuse to let go of, rather than a legitimate form of media. Women and, many men read erotic novels, watch movies such as 50 Shades of Grey and other examples of media that are more widely accepted. When we're younger, we watch cartoons, but as we age and our minds mature, we often prefer more mature content. But video games, no matter the age of the target player, will continue to be seen in two different categories. The first is that while games are enjoyed by people of many age groups, non players view it as a childish activity. The other is is an activity that is already stigmatized as a waste of time and a misuse of time for adults, (again by none players.) That being said, the same person who criticizes a gamer for playing an erotic visual novel, yet will turn around and read 50 Shades of Grey and never consider the level of hypocrisy.
Animation is also not a limited to children and is a legitimate form of media. So "watching cartoons" is also not a childish activity despite often being stigmatized as such.
I think the whole problem can be summarized with "too many people believe having a hobby they don't see traditional adults doing is purely childish." Obsessively putting your life into a hobby at the cost of other things (family, job, civic duty) can be detrimental, but simply having a hobby isn't the boogeyman that that type of person makes it out to be. I think it's just bitterness of individuals who don't believe they have any time for any hobbies.
Alright feckers, it's list time: Out Of Touch - By far the game I got most emotionally invested into, one of the only times I've seen polyamory done right. Once in a Lifetime and Eternum (both by same developer) - Hilarious and well written, can't go wrong with starting here Black Souls 1 and 2 - Honestly I would call black souls 2 the best RPG I've ever played, and I've played a ton of them Honorable mentions that are still good but are not quite to the level I invested heavily emotionally in them: Harem Hotel, Lewd Town Adventures, Corrupted Kingdoms, School Of love: Clubs, Lucky paradox and Goddesses' whim are the ones that come to mind. And lastly, one I don't think I can recommend unless you can ignore morality for the sake of a story, if you play this one for gratification, I don't think you can be saved, but I'll talk about it anyways since I do believe it should be mentioned. Lessons in Love, is disgusting, obtuse, needlessly verbose, morally reprehensible, emotionally scarring, It locks progression behind obscure puzzles and is extremely disturbing at times. But... It can be beautiful. Heartfelt, and moving. It helped me realize scars I have possessed since childhood and heal them, if only slightly. I honestly wish there was a way to skip the adult scenes, for every time they come up I just wanted them to be over. I only found Lessons in Love because it's at the top of some wiki list for longest video game scripts at 1.9 million words. This number is outdated and it's currently around 3.7 million words, making it almost 3x Homestuck, including the beyond canon books, or almost 4x as long as the whole bible. It is one of the longest works of fiction ever created, and it's only about halfway done. It took me well over 100 hours to read it all, closer to 200 probably since it was so obtuse in game design. It's very painful, but given how long it is, the sheer depth to the characterization of everyone in it is some of the most well written I've seen. I can't recommend it, but I needed somewhere to talk about it, all this time I spent on it, I needed it to be understood. So in case you do decide to play it anyways, remember, you chose to, you chose that pain. The pain, and the few sparse glimpses of beauty.
I will recommend one, "The Last Sovereign", it is an Mature erotic turn based RPG that has a twist beginning (it is not as it seems, I will put it like that) in a fantasy world, there are EASILY 60+ hours in it, it is on Steam FOR FREE and it is the best Western made Turn Based RPG I have ever played, not even erotic ones, just in general! Masterful writing and nice art (besides the intro, but that is part of the intro on purpose)
Being a DIK, Eternum, and Superhuman are three adult games that have blown me away on a level few AAA games ever have. Are they porn games? Yes. Are they great games with great stories? Absolutely!
MGQ had alright story/characters considering the majority of the content but some of the choices the characters tried to justify were just flat out stupid.
H games have genuinely been one of my most important discoveries in recent years. I'd obviously played a few of the big names here and there in the past, but about 2 years ago, I accidentally stumbled across a handful of games that really emotionally resonated with me, and in a lot of cases, has given me more emotionally affecting stories than nearly any other game I've played before. They've made me think about important topics I'd never even considered in the past, they gave me characters who I've connected with on a really deep level, and because they're adult games, there's no real restrictions on the way they can handle these topics. A game like Harem Hotel can go from haha, funny harem game with elf girls in the first hour, to 40+ hours later be dealing with topics like what would be required for humanity to accept a new species as sentient, is experimenting on sentient beings morally correct if it saves the majority of that species from being treated as slaves, and legal genocide. It's a game where a character can go from "oh not this stereotypical character trope again" to genuinely making me cry multiple times because of how much of an emotional gut punch their story is. And it can subtly weave an entire 300+ year history into its narrative and have payoffs for those things 20+ hours later. Lucky Paradox had a mystery to it that was genuinely impossible to stop thinking about while I was playing through it the first time. It had breadcrumbs being laid that made me just lean back in my chair, looking up at the ceiling, and considering all the potential consequences of what that could be hinting at. To put it into context, the last times I had that happen was my first time experiencing Steins;Gate and Virtue's Last Reward. Corrupted Kingdoms isn't afraid to absolutely demolish the status quo multiple times. Goddess' Whim has some incredibly witty dialogue that has me constantly smiling every time a new update releases, and is continually widening the scope of the story in a way that feels natural and justified. Superheroes Suck excellently deals with some topics I'd never considered properly before, and it might have some of the best writing and comedic sense I've ever seen in a visual novel. And Phoenixes might be one of the most realistic depictions I've seen of how a world of superheroes would actually be, with a group of characters that I genuinely changed who my favourite one was from conversation to conversation. Some of these aren't just on a list of my favourite H games of all time, they've broken onto my favourite GAMES of all time, period.
ironically quite a lot of people who'll happily play GTA and Baldur's Gate 3 will gladly tell you about their murder sprees and manipulation games will scoff at us about a nudy game that isn't even a quarter as depraved
And then you have the True Degenerates such as me who enjoy the GTA murder sprees and combine that with H-Games and get the best of both worlds i can murk fools then casualy Bang em XD. Jokes aside though both are great GTA one of the best open world games out there and unfortunately with the H_Games they just arent made with that level of quality if only i could have a gta quality H Game without having to mod GTA or Skyrim to be that would be awesome so far only game that i have seen doing that is Sword X Hime.
Ironic, considering almost all the companions in BG3 have the personality of an average Tumblr OC and just as few reservations jumping into somebody's pants.
@@LecherousLizard no lies detected, BG3 is just as shit as most triple A's, and almost as woke, everyone got fooled into thinking it was good because there was one (not very) attractive character and a cringe gay vampire.
Harem Hotel, Out of Touch, Lessons in Love, Once In A Lifetime, are worthy of trying as well for story content. I'll be honest it surprised me how deep the first one was. I just wish VNs didn't have an issue with being completed.
0:24 I have it publicly available that I have played and beaten both Huniepop and Huniepop 2: Double Date. If I recall correctly, I even platinumed the first game.
@@boi7316 They're good games. The match-3 gameplay is engaging, and the writing is funny as hell. The first game was better than the second though. I appreciate that people get off to that content, but still images that are that stylized don't really do much for me. I couldn't 'play it for the "plot"' even if I wanted to. From time to time, I go poking around the 'adult' section of Steam to see if there might be something in that vein that is legitimately good. The only other good 'adult' game I've ever played, has been Monster Girl Quest: Paradox, and calling that game 'good,' is a massive disservice. It's better than most mainstream games ever made. I'm being dead serious, it's actually an emotionally gripping epic with the deepest RPG gameplay I've ever seen. I highly, highly recommend it. The only other RPG out there that I think has gameplay depth that is remotely comparable, is Path of Exile, and PoE is a shallow pool compared to the ocean that is MGQP, especially once you get into the Labyrinth of Chaos (think insane postgame super-content). The writing for MGQP is. . . it's something else. Whoever wrote that is just as studied in the occult as I am, maybe more so, and they also are just master storytellers, who know how to write compelling characters down to the fine details. I'm eagerly awaiting the third and final part, and I don't want to say why because it's a huge spoiler.
I do not envy your journey for those last few achievements... I've been tempted to use SAM to grab them, but have held off for now under the pretext of maybe getting back to grab them legitimately.
Fun fact, dating sims, or dating element in games such as Persona series started in adult games/ero games. A lot of Japanese gaming company started their games in adult ero games.
Like now popular FGO by Type/Moon, all their early novels were eroge(except light novels by Nasu Kinoko), nowadays its like they are ashamed of their past and honestly lost the plot, its just a money milking scheme. Ironic how stopping making eroge turned them into this.
@@sanderkiki Ashamed? After they had that horrible Shinji joke in the newer Carnival Phantasm OVAs... or the fact that the Illya series exists... ...nah.
I kind of find it hilarious that killing, gore, hatred, war is "ok" to depict in videogames, but anything sexually-related is "bad". How come violence that brings misery and takes lives is more suitable to show than romance and sex, which actually is a way for human life to exist and for humans to multiply! I do play adult games - on my main Steam account, no less. And there are some real gems, both gameplay-wise and story-wise. I really liked Robo Life 1-2, x-Angels - they've got story, gameplay, some replayability. I also enjoyed "Seed of the Dead: Sweet home" - a (rather simplistic) zombie shooter. Nice heroine stories, unlocks for characters, customizeable R18 system (like choosing to show or not to show gore, NTR, r*pe etc). "Peeping Dorm Manager" is also great - it's a quest with layers of secrets and mystery, of you uncovering the dirty secrets of your dorm's residents. As for the "western" type - Subverse is an absolute champ - a "Mass effect" parody with tactical combat and waifus (still early access I believe, but full release is close), Orc Massage has fun character stories and "Masseuse" gameplay which involves relieving tensions in your (female) client's bodies. I also loved "She will punish them" - an ARPG with Diablo-style loot drops, customizable party of very attractive succubus fighters, but this game was abandoned before release, still in the "early access" limbo. Of the upcoming games I have my eyes on "Freaked Fleapit" (demo available). A rythm roguelike exploration game with dating sim mechanics.
I was wondering why youtube sudenly recommended this to me, but I suppose that since I recognize Luna from the thumbnail I answered my own question lol
@EE-tk1ii she's from a game called Eternum, by Caribdis. Game is not finished yet, but it's almost done. It's a pretty fun visual novel and Luna is wife
@@EE-tk1ii Eternum by Caribdis. The game is like only halfway done, but trust me, you are not going to finish that in a week or two. She is one of the 'friends' the MC builds a relationship with. Also considered one of the best girls (but that is debatable ofc).
@@RickRollerrr If caribdis is gonna follow the trend of completing the game at ver 1.0 then it's more 3/4 done rather than halfway. Also Alex and Luna best girls
Now and Them, Mist, Acting Lessons, A House in the Rift, Harem Hotel, Oppai Odyssey and much others, boy a lot of these games have good stories and I like when you get to know the characters little by little before the action.
I found Eternum just randomly on the internet and tried it out of curiosity, I played it mostly late night and midnight, some of the scenes legit made me feel depressed, I basically missed 60% of nsfw content in the game, I didn't even care about the girls, I just wanted to be... happy. Anyways, characters can feel like a template on some places but they are good enough, the humor is funny, the story and lore is interesting, visuals are fine, and the magnificent music choice fits every situation very well, never thought I would need headphones for reading, go play Eternum, this game hits different at 2 am, literally, it was a good experience
if someone hears the word visual novel, it’s likely going to get discarded as an adult taboo game but not all VNs have sexual scenes. like atri my dear moments, steins gate, chaos head, chaos child, etc. visual novels is jsut another form of media(art if you will) just like manga anime light novels manwa web novels. it’s trully a shame this genre isn’t more popular. i hope it gets as mainstream as animes because theres hidden gem in there that deserves more recognition. i mean, gacha games, persona, doki doki literature club, undertale have some sort of visual novel aspect to it so i guess it’s not far fetched to say that it’s already kind of out there..?
It really depends on the adult game. Some of them are great indeed. Though I think looking for them on Steam is a mistake. Steam will only allow a tiny fraction of these games.
My absolutely favourite adult game is "Baldr Sky". Great premise and story? Check. Lovable characters? Check. Pleasant art and music? Check. Actually sweet and emotional adult scenes? Check. High-octane mech gameplay? You better believe that's a check. "Memoirs of a Battle Brothel" , "Didnapper II" and "After I met that catgirl, my questlist got too long!" were lovely but not as rich of an experience as Baldr Sky.
There was an ancient Japanese saying that you watch AV for the biological needs, and eroge for the emotional needs. Back in the ancient times where there were no vtubers or OF models, people form parasocial relationships with fictional characters. The eroge have player forming relationship with attractive characters. Usually, a mixture of empathy, kindness, communication skills, sensitivity, problem solving skills, determination, humor, even physical strengths and attractiveness to successfully form a romantic relationship with the waifu/husbando The characters become surrogate romantic interests, surrogate friends, surrogate waifus and husbandos, even surrogate family. They offer a little bit of emotional support, a little bit of companionship, and maybe a little sense of belonging in this increasingly lonely and indifferent world. Eroge are often made by outcasts. Like Nasu Kinoko and Urobochi Gen behind the fate series, many well known writer and artists were once eroge developers. Eroge are considered as fringe media, thus they are more likely to explore sensitive topics that traditional media and writers wouldn’t touch. The deep, dark and controversial eroge always hits hard on the post nut clarity.
thank you for including the rance series as it is a bit of an underground following, especially since it has an incredible world building and deep character writing. this series tells a unique spin on rpg stories where you dont play as a typical honorable goody two shoes who want to save the world, the rance games will tell stories for adults, it will show you what happens when monsters attack a village and the hero doesnt show up its that kind of game. so let me just give a quick rundown in case people are interested: gameplaywise dont be afraid when you see this under visual novel genre cause while it has reading, the gameplay has complex systems with a new genre EACH game and the devs experiment within that genre so: Rance VI: the collapse of zeth, is a classic rpg party 2D scroll world movement with a linear story Rance VII: sengoku rance , is a grand strategy game so think civilization VI and rise of nation type game where you conquer nations with armies and a main story with multiple endings and a skirmish mode where you can start as other countries Rance VIII: rance quest magnum, (play magnum version cause based vers is grindier and magnum vers has addl story) is a 3D RPG game where you go to areas to explore and a hub type story main story with missions using the orb system Rance IX: the helmanian revolution is a tactics type of game so think fire emblem and xcom with a linear story using nodes so you can miss some scenes if you dont pay attention Rance X: showdown. hoo boy cant even describe this one. multi routed, 100+ characters army and commander based combat. this game is the culmination of the entire series 30 in real life years journey where characters from the entire series show up type of deal (i recommend dont play this as your first rance game you will appreciate this more if you have played the others first) now notice i started with 6th game in the series cause the series is split from the old time line and the new time line and these newer games can legit stand on its own even against big well known games. however if you do want to start at the beginning just a reminder that rance 1 was made in 1989 and the gameplay shows it. ALSO THESE OLD GAMES ARE OFFICIALLY FREEWARE Rance 1: quest for hikari. is a point and click adventure style with a chip fight system Rance II: Rebellious maidens. (one of the weakest entry gameplay wise) party but you can only control 1 character type of game Rance III: the fall of leazes. is a traditional rpg think early final fantasy Rance IV: Legacy of the sect, is a base type tower dungeon climbing rpg Rance 4.1 & 4.2: have card game mechanics kichikouo Rance, is grand strategy multi ending, with commander type battles and conquer nodes in countries (non canon story however really fun gameplay with great replay value) if anyone is interested with the story i can give a quick summary of each game
Katawa Shojo changed my mind about adult games. .. .and 4chan. I had some people really talk me into giving it a chance it I gotta admit, it was worth it.
@@Renikal As this guy said: Katawa Shoujo. xd It's primarily a visual novel though, so expect to have a manga-like experience. If you want other games, I think you should look through Steam's NSFW and Adult Only tags and find something that piques your interest.
@@Renikal Summertime Saga is a classic that created a bunch of copycats and pretty much inspired a genre. My Time With U is a pretty linear but pretty wholesome game with some good plot twists. Freecities is a game for devious autists (no graphics, but a lot of variables). Incubus City is an HTML game, very simple in design, but manages to be extremely deep. I think you can find your way from there, in F95zone, Itch or similar websites.
@@Renikal Katawa Shoujo like he said is great, and it's free. If you want more complicated romance stories, Ef - a fairy tale of two is great. If you want some lighthearted stuff, Kira Kira is nice and then...... well, this rabbit hole goes really deep.
It's good but not that good. It's a solid experience overall thanks to interesting gameplay, though. You can just check VNDB and sort by rating to find the games in the genre with the best stories.
Shout out to BEING A DIK. Yes, it's an adult game, yes it has a lot of sex scenes, but man, the story is amazing. It perfectly encapsulates the 80-90s film era of college sex comedies better than the movies themselves. You thought Animal House was a funny, well made movie? BEING A DIK is funnier and you actually get insanely invested in the characters.
i play LOTS of adult games and like you have told ''if was just to jerk off there would be very easy ways'', usually the story of these games are awesome! and for people who loves romance like me can love a lot these game, but is always so very difficult to talk about these games because even if sex is a normal thing about human life is surrounded by so many ''taboos'' and hate, even if games like baldurs gate have and there is LOTS of books too focused on adult themes and everyone looks likes ''its acceptable''. love is made to be spread not hated and it really has lots of good games with these themes.
As an enjoyer of adult visual novel games personally and i have to say, some of them have really great stories where adult content is just an extra flavor and the main focus is on the story. Those are, for me at least, the best kind of VN's
Some of my most important life lessons...I got from some VERY good Eroge visual novels I played as a teen. I agree that like 90% of all adult games are trash but oh boy in that last 10% you can find some absolutely amazing things.
Great video, having played multiple adult themed games with good writing, plot and "plot", its always difficult to bring up or explain to others without being called names. This video felt like an outlet for me as well, hope more people see it and change their perspective at least a little
YOU and ME and HER (Kimi to Kanojo to Kanojo no Koi) has a really good story and gameplay that complement that story, I was expecting to be whatever but it blew my mind.
Amazing video and great take on adult games. You delved into most of the topics (good and bad) that surround the genre. I loved the message you gave at the end regarding the community and the relationship with the Devs. I hope you are having a great time exploring these games, there are many gems like Eternum, Ripples and BaD.
I'd much rather have a traditional game focused more on combat but with also having adult content as well. It sucks to me that adult themes are separated into its own genre. Before anyone says it's for the kids that's bs becuase you can go on many streaming platforms in the US and get access to adult content through modern shows that kids aren't supposed to watch but it's right there available. Videogames get "shafted" instead becuase ignorant people associate videogames as a whole with children.
I always found it funny the case with videogames and adult themes, specifically with nudity. You're allowed to do the goriest death animation ever, think of Mortal Kombat, Dead Space and even Postal of all things, but showing a girls nip? Oh no no now that's pushing the limit, let alone showing the genital of either gender. One can hope some people stop being so immature with the idea of a game clearly designed for adults just so happen to include naked skin in it, but i digress.
Acting Lessons was a particulary heated game, isn't it? Joke aside, Being a DIK is way better in nearly all aspect, except on the emotional journey . The end of Acting Lessons was really something. It took me days to recover tbh ^^ But hey, because the last chapter of BaDIK was called, if i remenbered right, "calm before storm", i bet the storm will coming soon enough, uh? Dr Pincake know how to put a plotwist at the end of each chapter and some make the wait really difficult! So yeah let's hope we will have the next chapter soon enough but i guess the wait is the price to pay to have a game of this quality.
@@AD240pCharlie Right buddy, thanks for the correction. That doesn't mean that this christmas dinner wouldn't go without problem (or was it a flashback?). We will know soon enough : )
@@darthfinality Leap of Faith is an amazing game. I'm eager to see what will be the next game of the dev, considering the quality of this game. I know some people think it's not that great, and a lot of people are angry with the ex of the MC (didn't remenbered her name even if i really liked her route). Personnaly i disagree, especialy when you know why she did what she did (that doesn't excuse all but it's a good explanation ) PS: i'm team CeCe of course : )
There's one game I like called Dystopian Robot Girlfriend that has banger music, really neat writing, and a relatable PC lol Another one is called Harem Hotel, but that one could be hit or miss for some people.
Harem Hotel was awesome until the dev went full SJW with the plot a few years ago. I dropped it when you save those elves and they still treat you like the enemy even though you're literally helping their resistance directly. It's almost an exact copy of IRL protester behavior. I think the dev kind of ran out of ideas for events, but its making so much money that it is understandable he doesn't want to end it and try a new series that may flop. This is pretty much the problem with all of the popular games except for Carbdis since he actually did complete a popular game to move to a new series with Eternum. Frankly Eturnum is extremely overrated IMO, but I respect him not milking Once in a Lifetime, which had a fantastic ending for a harem game.
0:53 bro I thought the hair flinging out was one of those menacing kanji from jojo because that’s absolutely a pose you’d see in jojo, but honestly, I’ve been obsessing over jojo for too long and everything is a jojo reference
One game changed my outlook on a couple things for the worse. And by a lot. I know that there have been other people who have had a similar experience but the community dismisses them as "haters" rather than a criticism on the entire structure that they've built. This is has definitely scarred my introduction into this genre and marred its image in my mind, probably for a long time if not forever
Never thought i see a day where eternum is on a youtube thumbnail but here we are. I got into it because i played the creators previous game and was not entirely dissapointed with how it turned out ngl
Tbh I appreciate the problematic themes in some of these games, because they're a clear-cut representation of what and what isn't the result of a moral failing. For example, certain R18 JRPGs would cover the concept of obsession and abusing yourself, and of toxicity. None could bear down the hammer as well as these do, because while they might have scenes that ostensibly illustrate the scenario for fetish value, narratively, they also cover the self-destruction of everyone involved, and how not only you are incredibly obsessed with this *one thing* in that game, but everyone is somehow *obsessed* over you too, like a self-destructive ouroboros. And the beauty here? Freeing yourself from this cycle takes a LOT of effort, and rewards you very little beyond the fact that despite losing everything, you still escaped from your predicament when it could have gotten worse; a cool metaphor for going cold turkey, as you deny yourself the previous pleasures you had with obsessing over substances or actions and become a functional person. Ending H will forever be my GOAT. ---- If this were a standard JRPG, the exploration would be surface level and have difficulties in making you relate. I don't argue that everyone should play it; you already stated that the more questionable ones require more effort to find, and trigger warnings should be provided all the same, but art is art. Some adult games bypass the ghetto of making smut for smut's own purposes ala Witcher 3, where those scenes were optional and added little of value to the game, but they just get derided for being cheap without given a real chance.
I play AVNs, and I am 67 years old, so trust me I have done in real life more than what many AVNs show! Nevertheless, I play them because they tend to have better characters and better stories than most other genres! I mean, what genre gives you a story and characters like Leap of Faith, for example!
hahaha Another old guy ? I am 67 years old as well. But I play modding skyrim with loverslab and that's about it. Did play fallout 4 but its sex mod manager isn't very good. Looked at a few incl the katawa game years ago but was not interested. Well congrats on your longevity. Mine has pretty much died out. I play to be someone who is still alive not dead inside like me. Good luck.
i think the best adult video game is a game where the s3ks part is not the main goal but some kind of additional game mechanism that make the already good game even better. Imagine a game like skyrim, the witcher 3, or gta but has really deep dating sims aspect in it and also a seks minigame not just cut scene, where every time you done the deed you got some kind of buff or item that can help you push the story, different partner different buff or item. the stronger your bond with your partner the stronger the buff or the better the item is. just like in real life, seks itself is not the end goal. why adult video games are mostly trash because they are barely a game, they are like watching pron but with extra steps
Both the Fate series and the Tsukihime series started off as eroges, and Nasuverse might be the only property with lore deep and convoluted enough to rival the Blazblue series. So yeah.
I've started playing Karryn's prison for the adult content. Stayed for the combat, management, story, and the adult content. After some time, I've started noticing I'm playing a "virgin" run, avoiding the adult content, because I wanted to see the "pure" ending. Also, I really like the darker tones in games, like world of Bloodborne, so I really liked playing with Night of Revenge or Whisperer; not (just) for the H content, but for the gritty take on the dark fantasy (I know, it's edgy and that is considered cringe these days, but I like it).
I find it funny that many people view adult games less than normal video games, when in reality they’re just video games with bonus spicy content. Of course there’re bad low effort adult games, but that can be applied to pretty much every other games. And of course like you said, there’re also adult games will left you with an impact just as good as many normal games, but with the bonus of spicy material 😂. Many games I’ve played that just left me speechless and sitting in deep thought after finishing it, and many I played are just for gag and giggle when I don’t have enough time for games with some complex gameplay and engagement. For short, adult games can literally be any genre but with added spanking material 😂.
They are so many that i downloaded for the nut, but end up staying for the plot It piss me off how we don't really have acceptation for adult games and "adult" is instantly label as just "porn games" and death sentence for sales Games like: Leap of Faith Being a Dik FreshWoman Come Home Game of Hearts. Elyson Eternum Sunshine Love They are so, sooo many good games that are well writen and with a fascinating story telling. You know the moment the character are originally designed for the game you know is gonna be a banger game. The assets flips games are the ones you should be dodging
Come Home mentioned. Such a well written game. I cried. You actually come to care about the characters in it. This growing genre of nsfw visual novels is so underrated. They're way better than I expected.
Thank you, just thank you, I've been trying to convince many friends of mine to play “adult games”. But always... “no, that's just for jerking off”, ‘that's too sexualizing’ etc. My favorite adult game so far is “Degrees of Lewdety”.... I highly recommend it.... it has a lot of fetishes you can turn off or on.... but damn... the text makes me cry....
Personally I am not that interested in adult games. But I'd really enjoy playing games which allow you to equip lewd or revealing outfits. I really enjoyed Stellar Blade because of it. And many gacha games use this formula by creating attractive characters in sexy outfits. I think this is the goldilocks zone between adult games and regular games.
I play adult games, but I also really miss the days when almost every other game had sexy or just generally attractive characters. I do understand why that’s not the norm anymore, games want to reach a wider audience and I respect many women’s dislike of sexualization. But there’s still an audience for generally sexy games, and I hope Stellar Blade inspires more of them
@@Tyrany42 Don't fall for the lie my dude. Most women who hate sexualization are feminists or feminist influenced. Walk down the street during the summer and find a fair portion of young women wearing clothes just as revealing as anything that they deem inappropriate for games/movies. Whats even worse those same types find nothing wrong with men being sexualised. Men couldn't care less but you'd think these people would complain about movies like magic mike or the unreal proportions of action heroes or game characters. My aunt is one of those yet when she drinks she pinches any young mans backside that gets close and shows off a firefighter calendar which isn't about fire safety. It's all just trying to ruin men's fun to get back at the patriarchy or secure their "power" whatever that means.
There are so many games with female MCs though. Although of course the main consumer demographics are men, but that's just down to brute force numbers.
I ended up discovering some out of curiosity, today these are the types of games that I enjoy the most. My favorite is Good Girl Gone Bad, now I'm looking forward to GTA 6, I hope today's forced ideologies don't ruin the game.
Some of the stories of these games are actual gems. They're usually simple enough, but they still strike a chord. I played Melody several years ago and actual teared up at the ending I got. Then you have crazier stuff like Sweetest Monster, which I absolutely loved. It was pretty twisted. I still need to play the sequel!
It's not just companies that make adult games in Japan, there are also indies that make them, called Doujins. In fact, Doujin means Indie and there are a lot of Doujin works on DLSite. They also follow the bell curve where most of them are mediocre, a few trash and a few masterpieces. But there are some Japanese indie adult games that are good, one of which is Secret Flasher Sereka, in which you play as Sereka who's a exhibitionist
You might enjoy Subverse. One of the best adult games happening. It's been in beta for a while but is due for it's 1.0 release within in the next three months sometime.
One of my favourite JP eroge is called Princess Evangile To be fair, before I knew it was supposed to be an eroge I had the censored version on Steam and the story is easily one of the most interesting ones in the eroge sphere. On the surface it does just seem like the average "one guy ends up going into an all-girls school" type story but there are a lot of deeper themes throughout.
Because to not miss major stuff in Sierra Lee games you either need to be a complete and utter skitso that checks every nook and cranny 20 times every region/chapter or you HAVE to check a guide every 5 minutes, don't get me wrong the dev(s) is/are amazing writer(s) with very unique stories (Once Ever After is such a amazing deconstruction of ero games) but important missables in classic RPGM games is the dumbest thing I've ever encountered. After writing all this I realize I'm kinda just unloading on you when it's not even kinda your fault... so uh sorry about that, I'm unironically glad you like The Last Sovereign but I just HATE how good the writing is and how bad the missable bs is 😭
Eternum is my first and only Adult Game that actually got me invested. And yeah, the point you made of the devs connecting with us was very apparent with it. It’s just so peak! I need to check out the new chapters because I’m like a year behind. 😅
even though these types of games aren’t really my cup of tea one game i can recommend is sunrise city, it’s like ace attorney x my hero academia, i was very surprised when i realised that it was an adult game due to it being so high quality and amazing without the adult content.
The fact that I like in Adult games is anything goes without holding punches be it story, world building and gameplay mechanic and sometimes shows how a game dev idea is actually grander than any triple A games when they weren't hold back by market demand. I just love the fact some people would hush the genre as "Games for Mom and Dad". It still give me chuckles to this day.
Correction: The Rance Series. Rance Quest is only the name of Rance 8: Magnum Quest. The rest of the info seems right. And also, you need to mention that every Rance game has it's own gameplay style. They don't all play like Final Fantasy.
The most emotional adult game I played was "Leap of Faith". Very great game. Made me almost as emotional as Heavy Rain or Beyond Two souls, very great!
Gonna call myself out here, but saw the Eternum thumbnail and was instantly intrigued. Damn, Ripples mentioned too! Love both of those games, they are so well done.
Clicked for the curiosity itch, but then... I stayed for a video essay probably no one would take seriously but you genuinely made interesting, which totally captured my intrigue through your video champ.
@quarreneverett4767 nah, only the women look great in most of these types of games. Everything outside of that, including the mc and surrounding are terrible.
tbf knowing YokoTaro he prolly started as gamedev from doujin stuff, maybe as a writer, most of them did haha i recommend playing Drakengard 1 and 3 if you liked Nier(and also Replicant ofc). they are as i like to call "shitty masterpieces".
I mostly speak about Japanese games, but a lot of times, genuinely extreme "fetishes" are meant to help convey the lengths the story is willing to go to make their point rather than feeling like they are just there for pleasure. A villian in a fantasy adventure RPG genuinely doing something that is horrid without the theatrical voice acting you'd expect in these scenes to make the scenario digestible and fun to watch for example, these do come up to make a point about the game's narrative direction. I've seen people that think it's ok to skip over scenes that they don't find pleasurable, but that just feels like a very disingenuous way of reading these stories when they get serious and try to make you feel revolted on purpose. It's suppose to take something beautiful and twist it into something horror-esque, to get you to care and feel concerned about the character's in question or understand the weight of the world they live in.
Kawata shoujo If you haven't played it you are missing out, uncensored ofc Adult games, usualy VA's dare to go a step further with relationships, making them deeper and genuine, usually far more believable and detailed. If you are a VN enjoyer you know execly what i mean. Now on the other hand we still need a game to break the mold, we were all hoping it would be subverse but yeah it wasn't thaaaat good in the gameplay aspect, Carnal lust has some promise for open world kinda rpg game , so does Wild life, both having a lot of.. content atm, WL having a lot more freedom.
So I’m an enjoyer of adult games, though I take pretty long breaks in between playing them since playing them a lot of course will get boring. Anyways, what makes me keep playing the games are the plot, and man the plot can be so good sometimes. While I don’t often think too much about about how a character looks, one really good VN (Once in a Lifetime) I played had such an ugly MC that u was so close to quitting it, luckily he got a haircut which made him go from a 0/10 to a spoiled 8/10. Another game I played (Agent 88 I think?) fairly recently had such a unlikable MC that I, of course, stopped playing it. No seriously he was so stupidly unlikeable that I cursed him for weeks on end even after I deleted it. Though one gripe I have is that the MC the player is supposed to be is usually male, and I think it would be nice if there were more adult VN’s where the MC is a girl. I’m a girl.
Shoutout to the Japanese VN community for being the pioneer of adult gaming (or porn in general lol) P/S: Also it's weird that you recommend the 9+ game of the Rance series
i mean, they're responsible for koikatsu and kisekae too. somehow, while making those things, they've made the best 2d and 3d character creators i know of, just by accident
Started playing these games on December last year while in limbo waiting for my internship. Started for the... "research", stayed for the story. Kinda helped me stay sane while nothing happened. Nowadays as an aspiring creator of sorts, I couldn't stop thinking of adult scenarios and even dabbled in NSFW art now. Hoping to do something productive with those things in the future.
I like sex with layers nowadays, which I why I hate it when people are lazy with the idea of adult content being more than just the porn. I like Interspecies Reviewers because it explored the ideas of sex culture among fictional races, not just getting your nut and moving on. Sex as a theme can be entertaining, not just an easy way to get rid of your arousal.
Thanks for the shout out! Your future is bright on YT. Very well done.
Your support was amazing, thanks again for the help Tom!
@@fireplacegamingYT I wouldn't be thanking him He has minors on that server.
Is the discord only for patrons? I can’t find the link on your account
@@SteveoDeMayo I do? I have it set to adults 18+. Who is a minor?
@@squirrelthegamer8483 There is a Patreon and SS only section, but there is a general section for people that want to join. (it's also set to 18+)
Obligatory "The Fate series started out as eroge and it was wild."
Legit?
@@Navue-cn2tx yes
Tsukihime, Muv-Luv, and even the Nanoha Series Prequel started out as eroge. It was the only way to sell VNs at the time.
Most eroge don't include deep reflections on the concept of heroism, nor do they include a magic system which is able to unite, to some extent, the traditions and histories of various cultures around the world
@@e.v4892 you can say the same about most games, or most medium at all.
vast majority of entertainment are not very deep.
"Adult games are deeper than you think"
The jokes just write themselves.
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@@fireplacegamingYThe implied sex inuendo side joke of a joke
But they ARE, you clearly just don’t understand and didn’t bother to listen to what was said in the video.
@@fireplacegamingYT my comment got deleted for some reason. I basically aaid im sure the guy ws making a inuendo joke
@@ninja_tony You didn't get the joke. He's joking about sex and the concept of going "deeper". Get it?
The fact that women can choke microphones on twitch
but a game like "Hunie Pop" is banned
is legit insane
Wait, it got banned? Damnit!
Double standards are a b***h
What the hell is choking a microphone?
Double standards.
@@DKNguyen3.1415 I would dare say its vibrating cucumber but I could be wrong...
I agree that adult games are to guys what smutty romance novels are to women. I've been working in this industry for about 6 years now and it's been hands-down the favorite job I've ever had.
I get to work with wonderful artists, have an outlet for my creativity and earn a decent living wage.
The difference between a game like this and just going on the hub is that you get to know and connect to characters. Suddenly there's more emotional attachment to them making the time investment and payoff mean so much more.
I love this industry and hope I can continue working in it for a long time.
Pretty much this.
In fact, I'd go out and say that by having characters worth caring about, it makes the eroticism feel completed. Like actually showing that sexuality is part of the human experience
I want to disagree, but yeah, that's pretty much true. Not all the time, but for the good characters, for sure.
You are soo cool!
Are there are any specific creators or studios that you see as really pushing the market forward?
@@JamesF-v4xIt's too early to tell right now.
My problem with adult games is that 98% of them are visual novels.
Same
And the ones that are not just visual novels look are mostly 8 bit games
@@jackrice4065probably cause cost would be a lot more then copies sold
@@jackrice4065or RPG maker games
But if they make it like an FPS game, you might get too busy to play the other game of yours, you know...
Casual player: so I farmed money via beating up NPCs and selling their stuff. There are certain points on the map where you can kill enough NPCs to fill your inventory every eight minutes, and there's a shop closeby that buys everything you looted. What did you play on the weekend?
Dating sim player: there was this beautiful but shy girl, who turns out, has some really hardcore traumas, and I tried to be there for her to turn her self-sabotage journey into a self-healing one. In the end we fell in love and had sex.
Casual player: wtf is wrong you? Why do you play sick games like that?!
Haha yeah that encapsulates how alot of peoplle are taught to be shamed of their body and stuff. To prefer to point judgement instead of understanding. Gets hard man. I feel ya
TBH, I was starting to see a pattern that we see murder as okay, but love as not okay.
It's weird.
True lol, how it feels to play games like Katawa Shoujo
That's a Piro vs Largo moment if I ever saw one
@@silver1340 because loving means opening your heart, showing your desires. being vulnerable in short. And most people can't deal with the idea that they aren't in control. Being absurdly violent is just easy in comparison.
A lot of people thinks they are just "press x and f*ck" games but damn, there are some really great games out there. I, personally, prefer a game like Eternum over most of new Ubisoft games if not all. One of my problems is, its hard to bring up those games to your friends and family.
I prefer 2d games than 3d but yeah there are also alot of good 3d one. Also same as me dude, cant bring this up into my normies friend, let alone my family. Really had a hard time sharing this things into anyone at this point which is kinda sad.
Why its hard to bring those games to your friends?
Would they not have some things in common with you?
Besides Erenum is one of the better games, ALL GAMES i played in my life.
Multiple interesting people (I LOVE LOLIS yet the redhead in the game made me sad i passed on her story.)
Multiple different areas with different settings from horror/gothic, medieval/fantasy, cyberpunk/futuristic to cowboy/western
I played this game 7 months ago and i still remember it fondly and i will have to replay it all when it finally finishes in few years i guess (i will need to include the redhead story as damn she may be a hag but she is cute.)
When you have to pay for garbage like forspoken or dustborn or other dei shit something like this for free should be promoted to any gamer.
If you haven't already, you should check out a game called "flipwitch: forbidden sex hex".
Bought the soundtrack first, then just had to buy the game. Really fun game with a cool 2D pixel art style with lots of vibrant colors that really matches the energy and style of the bubbly soundtrack
@@tahaumut95 then there's that one guy with a fully public steam account that's just all nekopara games completed with every success, DLCs and 5000 words reviews of each game.
Eternum is overrated, good graphics, good setting but shitty writing
I swear, somehow ive seen more lifechanging messages in these games more than any other form of media
Honestly playing Being a D*K chapter 3's plot twist hit me harder than any other video game plot twist I've experienced to that point lol.
Play MGQ dude
@@mattheww1930
Did you play "Acting Lessons" by Dr.P?
If not, i'm not saying anything else now...other than, play it, it's complete, you wont regret it...well maybe you will for ...reasons.
That's the power of post-nut clarity. The content between hyper-detailed sex scenes is typically written post-goon-session by the author, meaning they're at their creative and introspective apex now that the horny isn't there to distract them. Same reason comments on the hub are so fucking chill.
That's me after playing Hoshi Ori Yume Mirai. I was expecting some run-of-the-mill childhood friend route and all of the sudden got a message about self-improvement from a girl who grows up bound to her bed due to pediatric asthma and her thanking her parents at her wedding for helping her overcome the childhood hardship. I'm like wtf, this story would have been so motivational for any child growing up with early illness but I'm getting it in a game where you also see the main character impregnates this girl (wholesomely of course, they married).
In terms of the audience I feel that romance targeted for men is so scarce that the adult game space dominates and resonates with so many because of that scarcity. There's definitely something to be said of the allure of adult content but I find the reason these kinds of games are often heavily narrative focused is due to a desire for something more complex and emotionally driven than something you can find on orange youtube. That and barrier of entry is lower to not need to design levels, mechanics, and physics.
Weirdly enough, I think you hit on the market overlap we see here. Because romance is so heavily stigmatized as a genre to peruse for men, the only place it shows up is in this space and written word... though I suspect there's no publishing houses making money off that market outside of digital sales.
@@Sorain1 romance is heavily stigmatized for men because the mere mention of men trying to be happy makes the usual suspects seethe in rage
@@Sorain1 It's stigmatized because in this anti-male era we live in, men are not allowed to like women, that's hecking problematic and bigoted.
@@yoggothemadgod6196 This, so much this! Every zoomer is cope seethe rent freeing the coomer doomers and sneed feed and seed, they're locked and KEYED and SOVL and /pol/cel bloomer soulless slop kino peak fiction!
I cannot stand pure romance stories. But give me any kind of other story and put a heavy dose of romance in it I'm game. This is how I found out I actually like reading romance. A book tricked me into reading it promising a cool fantasy story but then pretty much solved the core problem in the first few chapters and I got sucked into the romance of 2 adventurers' daily life together.
4:50 yeah Japan never really went through the 'video games are for kids' phase the west is still trying to shake off
Same with animation as a medium really, and comics. Someone should do a proper study to try and figure out why.
@@Sorain1 agreed, I just wanted to stay on topic(video games)
yea i wonder why even nowadays most guys born before 1970 can't handle pacman and have incredible hate for video games
@@Sorain1 I think it most likely has to do with USA's puritan culture & their adherence to 1 Corinthians 13:11 . Anything that isn't considered work or grown up, is treated as wasteful or a sin. It's a puritanism that's specific to the USA. Other Christian nations like France, Italy or Spain are much less judgmental against cartoons, because they focus on aesthetics (the indie game Blasphemous is very Catholic.) over the puritanical belief systems of the USA.
@@HereticHydraheck it’s due to the puritan nature of the US that tentacle hentai was invented.
It checks out, I'm friends with H-Mangaka, and they take plot structure very seriously; for them, it's not, "and then they banged." it's all about building and character. Heck, if you took away the h-stuff from one of my friends' work, it surprisingly works as a well-written horror story
A lot of mangakas start out drawing hentai before they move on to "normie" stuff actually.
For example Nanashi (or 774) the author of Nagatoro-san made like half a dozen of 18+ doujins before he started working on the aforementioned series.
@@LecherousLizardI must know, how do they work things out mentally?
@@corryjamieson3909 Um... can you rephrase/elaborate?
@@LecherousLizard I'm pretty sure making these things takes a toll, it happens to every artist, how does one cope?
@@corryjamieson3909 I mean, considering bro wrote 3 different h-mangas with the same character, I'm pretty sure he just likes it.
Unless you mean the Nagatoro manga, then I guess a bit, since they do have deadlines to keep, but it's not like he got commissioned to do it.
First adult game I played was Sword of Succubus, a Legend of Zelda like game where you play as a succubus who gets a hero's legendary sword and thus saves the land. The game is, actually rather unique in its story, and as a female gamer, I enjoy it and a lot of the games I've played from this company because of how empowering they are.
Couldn't beat the first boss, but the gameplay was solid.
That company's work is great. I've played a few of them.
@@okaminokuro You couldn't beat it because the publisher complained that the game was too easy, when it was suppose to be easy.
Try playing the Original difficulty mode, that's how the game was intended to be played upon first release.
I think one other problem these adult games could be facing is that they might also be competing with fan service games like snowbreak or azar lane. Those games dont have those spicy scenes but they make up for it by having much higher quality and fill multiple different genres where as adult games are mostly VN's or rpg maker games.
Ecchi will always have its place. Sometimes it's more fun to tease and poke fun endearingly than it is to be completely out there. It's all about the skill of use.
Thankfully there are alot of them with various genres to do andnstuff.
they not the same thing
try it for yourself
The thing about the lack of open acceptance of adult games is that people still can't see games as anything more than a holdover from a childhood that we refuse to let go of, rather than a legitimate form of media. Women and, many men read erotic novels, watch movies such as 50 Shades of Grey and other examples of media that are more widely accepted.
When we're younger, we watch cartoons, but as we age and our minds mature, we often prefer more mature content. But video games, no matter the age of the target player, will continue to be seen in two different categories. The first is that while games are enjoyed by people of many age groups, non players view it as a childish activity. The other is is an activity that is already stigmatized as a waste of time and a misuse of time for adults, (again by none players.) That being said, the same person who criticizes a gamer for playing an erotic visual novel, yet will turn around and read 50 Shades of Grey and never consider the level of hypocrisy.
Animation is also not a limited to children and is a legitimate form of media. So "watching cartoons" is also not a childish activity despite often being stigmatized as such.
@@gokbay3057 Couldn't agree more, as a 50 year old anime fan.
I think the whole problem can be summarized with "too many people believe having a hobby they don't see traditional adults doing is purely childish." Obsessively putting your life into a hobby at the cost of other things (family, job, civic duty) can be detrimental, but simply having a hobby isn't the boogeyman that that type of person makes it out to be. I think it's just bitterness of individuals who don't believe they have any time for any hobbies.
and for some reason games seem like a better media to tell a story.
Alright feckers, it's list time:
Out Of Touch - By far the game I got most emotionally invested into, one of the only times I've seen polyamory done right.
Once in a Lifetime and Eternum (both by same developer) - Hilarious and well written, can't go wrong with starting here
Black Souls 1 and 2 - Honestly I would call black souls 2 the best RPG I've ever played, and I've played a ton of them
Honorable mentions that are still good but are not quite to the level I invested heavily emotionally in them:
Harem Hotel, Lewd Town Adventures, Corrupted Kingdoms, School Of love: Clubs, Lucky paradox and Goddesses' whim are the ones that come to mind.
And lastly, one I don't think I can recommend unless you can ignore morality for the sake of a story, if you play this one for gratification, I don't think you can be saved, but I'll talk about it anyways since I do believe it should be mentioned.
Lessons in Love, is disgusting, obtuse, needlessly verbose, morally reprehensible, emotionally scarring, It locks progression behind obscure puzzles and is extremely disturbing at times.
But... It can be beautiful. Heartfelt, and moving. It helped me realize scars I have possessed since childhood and heal them, if only slightly.
I honestly wish there was a way to skip the adult scenes, for every time they come up I just wanted them to be over.
I only found Lessons in Love because it's at the top of some wiki list for longest video game scripts at 1.9 million words. This number is outdated and it's currently around 3.7 million words, making it almost 3x Homestuck, including the beyond canon books, or almost 4x as long as the whole bible. It is one of the longest works of fiction ever created, and it's only about halfway done.
It took me well over 100 hours to read it all, closer to 200 probably since it was so obtuse in game design.
It's very painful, but given how long it is, the sheer depth to the characterization of everyone in it is some of the most well written I've seen.
I can't recommend it, but I needed somewhere to talk about it, all this time I spent on it, I needed it to be understood.
So in case you do decide to play it anyways, remember, you chose to, you chose that pain. The pain, and the few sparse glimpses of beauty.
Thank you for this list, I'm no stranger to the genre but there are a few titles here I've never heard of and am going to check them out.
Play Leap of Faith
@@orbajo I'll definitely give it a try!
My bully is my Lover is also a gem.
I will recommend one, "The Last Sovereign", it is an Mature erotic turn based RPG that has a twist beginning (it is not as it seems, I will put it like that) in a fantasy world, there are EASILY 60+ hours in it, it is on Steam FOR FREE and it is the best Western made Turn Based RPG I have ever played, not even erotic ones, just in general! Masterful writing and nice art (besides the intro, but that is part of the intro on purpose)
Being a DIK, Eternum, and Superhuman are three adult games that have blown me away on a level few AAA games ever have. Are they porn games? Yes. Are they great games with great stories? Absolutely!
City of broken Dreamers is SOO GOOOOD
Monster Girl Quest has a best lore and script than many normal games. Also, it's spin-off Paradox has really enjoyable mechanics for a jrpg.
Paradox is awful imo but MGQ is crazy. Never expected it to be this good.
MGQ had alright story/characters considering the majority of the content but some of the choices the characters tried to justify were just flat out stupid.
@@candycommander their stupidity and hypocrisy made them feel real
@@biblecmpvictim real idiots. 👍
@@cernunnos8344 I love Paradox ngl. But yeah it is different than the original even with all the similar stuff that happens.
H games have genuinely been one of my most important discoveries in recent years. I'd obviously played a few of the big names here and there in the past, but about 2 years ago, I accidentally stumbled across a handful of games that really emotionally resonated with me, and in a lot of cases, has given me more emotionally affecting stories than nearly any other game I've played before.
They've made me think about important topics I'd never even considered in the past, they gave me characters who I've connected with on a really deep level, and because they're adult games, there's no real restrictions on the way they can handle these topics.
A game like Harem Hotel can go from haha, funny harem game with elf girls in the first hour, to 40+ hours later be dealing with topics like what would be required for humanity to accept a new species as sentient, is experimenting on sentient beings morally correct if it saves the majority of that species from being treated as slaves, and legal genocide. It's a game where a character can go from "oh not this stereotypical character trope again" to genuinely making me cry multiple times because of how much of an emotional gut punch their story is. And it can subtly weave an entire 300+ year history into its narrative and have payoffs for those things 20+ hours later.
Lucky Paradox had a mystery to it that was genuinely impossible to stop thinking about while I was playing through it the first time. It had breadcrumbs being laid that made me just lean back in my chair, looking up at the ceiling, and considering all the potential consequences of what that could be hinting at. To put it into context, the last times I had that happen was my first time experiencing Steins;Gate and Virtue's Last Reward.
Corrupted Kingdoms isn't afraid to absolutely demolish the status quo multiple times.
Goddess' Whim has some incredibly witty dialogue that has me constantly smiling every time a new update releases, and is continually widening the scope of the story in a way that feels natural and justified.
Superheroes Suck excellently deals with some topics I'd never considered properly before, and it might have some of the best writing and comedic sense I've ever seen in a visual novel.
And Phoenixes might be one of the most realistic depictions I've seen of how a world of superheroes would actually be, with a group of characters that I genuinely changed who my favourite one was from conversation to conversation.
Some of these aren't just on a list of my favourite H games of all time, they've broken onto my favourite GAMES of all time, period.
Just an observation, you can hide games from your friends on steam, just right click > properties > privacy > Mark as Private 💁♀
ironically quite a lot of people who'll happily play GTA and Baldur's Gate 3 will gladly tell you about their murder sprees and manipulation games will scoff at us about a nudy game that isn't even a quarter as depraved
Cause most people only think of H games as porn
And then you have the True Degenerates such as me who enjoy the GTA murder sprees and combine that with H-Games and get the best of both worlds i can murk fools then casualy Bang em XD. Jokes aside though both are great GTA one of the best open world games out there and unfortunately with the H_Games they just arent made with that level of quality if only i could have a gta quality H Game without having to mod GTA or Skyrim to be that would be awesome so far only game that i have seen doing that is Sword X Hime.
Ironic, considering almost all the companions in BG3 have the personality of an average Tumblr OC and just as few reservations jumping into somebody's pants.
@@LecherousLizard no lies detected, BG3 is just as shit as most triple A's, and almost as woke, everyone got fooled into thinking it was good because there was one (not very) attractive character and a cringe gay vampire.
Being a DIK is an absolutely amazing game, I highly recommend his first game Acting lessons too!
That choice though? Man.
Harem Hotel, Out of Touch, Lessons in Love, Once In A Lifetime, are worthy of trying as well for story content. I'll be honest it surprised me how deep the first one was. I just wish VNs didn't have an issue with being completed.
0:24 I have it publicly available that I have played and beaten both Huniepop and Huniepop 2: Double Date. If I recall correctly, I even platinumed the first game.
Damn. Just damn.
@@boi7316 They're good games. The match-3 gameplay is engaging, and the writing is funny as hell. The first game was better than the second though. I appreciate that people get off to that content, but still images that are that stylized don't really do much for me. I couldn't 'play it for the "plot"' even if I wanted to.
From time to time, I go poking around the 'adult' section of Steam to see if there might be something in that vein that is legitimately good. The only other good 'adult' game I've ever played, has been Monster Girl Quest: Paradox, and calling that game 'good,' is a massive disservice. It's better than most mainstream games ever made. I'm being dead serious, it's actually an emotionally gripping epic with the deepest RPG gameplay I've ever seen. I highly, highly recommend it. The only other RPG out there that I think has gameplay depth that is remotely comparable, is Path of Exile, and PoE is a shallow pool compared to the ocean that is MGQP, especially once you get into the Labyrinth of Chaos (think insane postgame super-content). The writing for MGQP is. . . it's something else. Whoever wrote that is just as studied in the occult as I am, maybe more so, and they also are just master storytellers, who know how to write compelling characters down to the fine details. I'm eagerly awaiting the third and final part, and I don't want to say why because it's a huge spoiler.
I do not envy your journey for those last few achievements... I've been tempted to use SAM to grab them, but have held off for now under the pretext of maybe getting back to grab them legitimately.
TH-cam shadowbanned my comment about Monster Girl Quest. That's a real shame. One of the greatest games ever made.
So I went down that rabbit hole. My first game was Milfy City, and somehow now I’m playing Raptus. 💀
Fun fact, dating sims, or dating element in games such as Persona series started in adult games/ero games. A lot of Japanese gaming company started their games in adult ero games.
Like now popular FGO by Type/Moon, all their early novels were eroge(except light novels by Nasu Kinoko), nowadays its like they are ashamed of their past and honestly lost the plot, its just a money milking scheme. Ironic how stopping making eroge turned them into this.
@@sanderkiki Ashamed? After they had that horrible Shinji joke in the newer Carnival Phantasm OVAs... or the fact that the Illya series exists...
...nah.
@@simplysolus8916 I'm talking more about their older VNs, stuff like Tohsaka's *nus etc :^)
I was playing Eternum, and honestly the game has perfect comedy and drama with the adult content being well in the story.
type shi
I honestly stayed for the plot, wish they released sooner tho
@noir3662 real
@@noir3662 waiting on 0.8 xD
The music was banging too. It had me google it to add to my playlist
I kind of find it hilarious that killing, gore, hatred, war is "ok" to depict in videogames, but anything sexually-related is "bad".
How come violence that brings misery and takes lives is more suitable to show than romance and sex, which actually is a way for human life to exist and for humans to multiply!
I do play adult games - on my main Steam account, no less. And there are some real gems, both gameplay-wise and story-wise. I really liked Robo Life 1-2, x-Angels - they've got story, gameplay, some replayability. I also enjoyed "Seed of the Dead: Sweet home" - a (rather simplistic) zombie shooter. Nice heroine stories, unlocks for characters, customizeable R18 system (like choosing to show or not to show gore, NTR, r*pe etc). "Peeping Dorm Manager" is also great - it's a quest with layers of secrets and mystery, of you uncovering the dirty secrets of your dorm's residents.
As for the "western" type - Subverse is an absolute champ - a "Mass effect" parody with tactical combat and waifus (still early access I believe, but full release is close), Orc Massage has fun character stories and "Masseuse" gameplay which involves relieving tensions in your (female) client's bodies. I also loved "She will punish them" - an ARPG with Diablo-style loot drops, customizable party of very attractive succubus fighters, but this game was abandoned before release, still in the "early access" limbo.
Of the upcoming games I have my eyes on "Freaked Fleapit" (demo available). A rythm roguelike exploration game with dating sim mechanics.
Monster Girl Quest was my first adult game. I liked it. It changed me. It stopped me being racist.
So goooooooooooood
I can't believe you used to discriminate against Monster Girls. Shame!!!
Even the most racist person will stop for Alice
Nah im still racist
@@JUST_SOME_SHY_GUY did you play MGQ?
I was wondering why youtube sudenly recommended this to me, but I suppose that since I recognize Luna from the thumbnail I answered my own question lol
What game is she from?
@EE-tk1ii she's from a game called Eternum, by Caribdis. Game is not finished yet, but it's almost done. It's a pretty fun visual novel and Luna is wife
@@EE-tk1ii Eternum by Caribdis. The game is like only halfway done, but trust me, you are not going to finish that in a week or two. She is one of the 'friends' the MC builds a relationship with. Also considered one of the best girls (but that is debatable ofc).
@@RickRollerrr If caribdis is gonna follow the trend of completing the game at ver 1.0 then it's more 3/4 done rather than halfway. Also Alex and Luna best girls
@@barastyr344 🥂🗿
Now and Them, Mist, Acting Lessons, A House in the Rift, Harem Hotel, Oppai Odyssey and much others, boy a lot of these games have good stories and I like when you get to know the characters little by little before the action.
I found Eternum just randomly on the internet and tried it out of curiosity, I played it mostly late night and midnight, some of the scenes legit made me feel depressed, I basically missed 60% of nsfw content in the game, I didn't even care about the girls, I just wanted to be... happy.
Anyways, characters can feel like a template on some places but they are good enough, the humor is funny, the story and lore is interesting, visuals are fine, and the magnificent music choice fits every situation very well, never thought I would need headphones for reading, go play Eternum, this game hits different at 2 am, literally, it was a good experience
nova's theme is fire
if someone hears the word visual novel, it’s likely going to get discarded as an adult taboo game but not all VNs have sexual scenes. like atri my dear moments, steins gate, chaos head, chaos child, etc.
visual novels is jsut another form of media(art if you will) just like manga anime light novels manwa web novels. it’s trully a shame this genre isn’t more popular. i hope it gets as mainstream as animes because theres hidden gem in there that deserves more recognition.
i mean, gacha games, persona, doki doki literature club, undertale have some sort of visual novel aspect to it so i guess it’s not far fetched to say that it’s already kind of out there..?
It really depends on the adult game. Some of them are great indeed. Though I think looking for them on Steam is a mistake. Steam will only allow a tiny fraction of these games.
My absolutely favourite adult game is "Baldr Sky". Great premise and story? Check. Lovable characters? Check. Pleasant art and music? Check. Actually sweet and emotional adult scenes? Check. High-octane mech gameplay? You better believe that's a check.
"Memoirs of a Battle Brothel" , "Didnapper II" and "After I met that catgirl, my questlist got too long!" were lovely but not as rich of an experience as Baldr Sky.
12:03 For everyone who's interested it seems to be "Seven deadly sins" anime, characters are Ban and Elaine
There was an ancient Japanese saying that you watch AV for the biological needs, and eroge for the emotional needs.
Back in the ancient times where there were no vtubers or OF models, people form parasocial relationships with fictional characters.
The eroge have player forming relationship with attractive characters. Usually, a mixture of empathy, kindness, communication skills, sensitivity, problem solving skills, determination, humor, even physical strengths and attractiveness to successfully form a romantic relationship with the waifu/husbando
The characters become surrogate romantic interests, surrogate friends, surrogate waifus and husbandos, even surrogate family. They offer a little bit of emotional support, a little bit of companionship, and maybe a little sense of belonging in this increasingly lonely and indifferent world.
Eroge are often made by outcasts. Like Nasu Kinoko and Urobochi Gen behind the fate series, many well known writer and artists were once eroge developers. Eroge are considered as fringe media, thus they are more likely to explore sensitive topics that traditional media and writers wouldn’t touch. The deep, dark and controversial eroge always hits hard on the post nut clarity.
thank you for including the rance series as it is a bit of an underground following,
especially since it has an incredible world building and deep character writing. this series tells a unique spin on rpg stories where you dont play as a typical honorable goody two shoes who want to save the world, the rance games will tell stories for adults, it will show you what happens when monsters attack a village and the hero doesnt show up its that kind of game.
so let me just give a quick rundown in case people are interested:
gameplaywise dont be afraid when you see this under visual novel genre cause while it has reading, the gameplay has complex systems with a new genre EACH game and the devs experiment within that genre so:
Rance VI: the collapse of zeth, is a classic rpg party 2D scroll world movement with a linear story
Rance VII: sengoku rance , is a grand strategy game so think civilization VI and rise of nation type game where you conquer nations with armies and a main story with multiple endings and a skirmish mode where you can start as other countries
Rance VIII: rance quest magnum, (play magnum version cause based vers is grindier and magnum vers has addl story) is a 3D RPG game where you go to areas to explore and a hub type story main story with missions using the orb system
Rance IX: the helmanian revolution is a tactics type of game so think fire emblem and xcom with a linear story using nodes so you can miss some scenes if you dont pay attention
Rance X: showdown. hoo boy cant even describe this one. multi routed, 100+ characters army and commander based combat. this game is the culmination of the entire series 30 in real life years journey where characters from the entire series show up type of deal (i recommend dont play this as your first rance game you will appreciate this more if you have played the others first)
now notice i started with 6th game in the series
cause the series is split from the old time line and the new time line and these newer games can legit stand on its own even against big well known games. however if you do want to start at the beginning just a reminder that rance 1 was made in 1989 and the gameplay shows it.
ALSO THESE OLD GAMES ARE OFFICIALLY FREEWARE
Rance 1: quest for hikari. is a point and click adventure style with a chip fight system
Rance II: Rebellious maidens. (one of the weakest entry gameplay wise) party but you can only control 1 character type of game
Rance III: the fall of leazes. is a traditional rpg think early final fantasy
Rance IV: Legacy of the sect, is a base type tower dungeon climbing rpg
Rance 4.1 & 4.2: have card game mechanics
kichikouo Rance, is grand strategy multi ending, with commander type battles and conquer nodes in countries (non canon story however really fun gameplay with great replay value)
if anyone is interested with the story i can give a quick summary of each game
You aré a Man of culture 🗿🗿🗿
A Rance Afficionado, respect.
Katawa Shojo changed my mind about adult games. .. .and 4chan. I had some people really talk me into giving it a chance it I gotta admit, it was worth it.
Any recommendations?
@@Renikal As this guy said: Katawa Shoujo. xd
It's primarily a visual novel though, so expect to have a manga-like experience.
If you want other games, I think you should look through Steam's NSFW and Adult Only tags and find something that piques your interest.
@@Renikal Summertime Saga is a classic that created a bunch of copycats and pretty much inspired a genre. My Time With U is a pretty linear but pretty wholesome game with some good plot twists. Freecities is a game for devious autists (no graphics, but a lot of variables). Incubus City is an HTML game, very simple in design, but manages to be extremely deep. I think you can find your way from there, in F95zone, Itch or similar websites.
@@Renikal play snoot game and i wani hani that gator on steam
@@Renikal Katawa Shoujo like he said is great, and it's free.
If you want more complicated romance stories, Ef - a fairy tale of two is great.
If you want some lighthearted stuff, Kira Kira is nice
and then...... well, this rabbit hole goes really deep.
monster girl quest was probably the craziest eroge in terms of narrative imo
It's good but not that good. It's a solid experience overall thanks to interesting gameplay, though. You can just check VNDB and sort by rating to find the games in the genre with the best stories.
Shout out to BEING A DIK. Yes, it's an adult game, yes it has a lot of sex scenes, but man, the story is amazing. It perfectly encapsulates the 80-90s film era of college sex comedies better than the movies themselves. You thought Animal House was a funny, well made movie? BEING A DIK is funnier and you actually get insanely invested in the characters.
i play LOTS of adult games and like you have told ''if was just to jerk off there would be very easy ways'', usually the story of these games are awesome! and for people who loves romance like me can love a lot these game, but is always so very difficult to talk about these games because even if sex is a normal thing about human life is surrounded by so many ''taboos'' and hate, even if games like baldurs gate have and there is LOTS of books too focused on adult themes and everyone looks likes ''its acceptable''. love is made to be spread not hated and it really has lots of good games with these themes.
As an enjoyer of adult visual novel games personally and i have to say, some of them have really great stories where adult content is just an extra flavor and the main focus is on the story. Those are, for me at least, the best kind of VN's
well said and agree 100 percent
Some adult games are surprisingly good
I'll leave my shout-out for "My Dystopian Robot Girlfriend"
My man
@@Viicell good shit
wtf?! (proceeds to shake hands)
The problem with most adult games is that they use their adult content as a crutch for a lack of substance.
Some of my most important life lessons...I got from some VERY good Eroge visual novels I played as a teen.
I agree that like 90% of all adult games are trash but oh boy in that last 10% you can find some absolutely amazing things.
Great video, having played multiple adult themed games with good writing, plot and "plot", its always difficult to bring up or explain to others without being called names. This video felt like an outlet for me as well, hope more people see it and change their perspective at least a little
YOU and ME and HER (Kimi to Kanojo to Kanojo no Koi) has a really good story and gameplay that complement that story, I was expecting to be whatever but it blew my mind.
Amazing video and great take on adult games. You delved into most of the topics (good and bad) that surround the genre. I loved the message you gave at the end regarding the community and the relationship with the Devs. I hope you are having a great time exploring these games, there are many gems like Eternum, Ripples and BaD.
I'd much rather have a traditional game focused more on combat but with also having adult content as well. It sucks to me that adult themes are separated into its own genre. Before anyone says it's for the kids that's bs becuase you can go on many streaming platforms in the US and get access to adult content through modern shows that kids aren't supposed to watch but it's right there available. Videogames get "shafted" instead becuase ignorant people associate videogames as a whole with children.
Then try some alicesoft games then
You see.... have you tried skyrim, with mods
@haleffect9011 yeah it's alright but skyrim is old af now and I'm sick of it
I always found it funny the case with videogames and adult themes, specifically with nudity.
You're allowed to do the goriest death animation ever, think of Mortal Kombat, Dead Space and even Postal of all things, but showing a girls nip? Oh no no now that's pushing the limit, let alone showing the genital of either gender.
One can hope some people stop being so immature with the idea of a game clearly designed for adults just so happen to include naked skin in it, but i digress.
@@Vincent_Rabbit the world needs more game developers who intentionally break all the rules to encourage others to question them as well
Being a DIK 🐐, shit made me cry and I'm so excited for season 3. Acting Lessons was amazing and hit harder than truck-kun....
Acting Lessons was a particulary heated game, isn't it?
Joke aside, Being a DIK is way better in nearly all aspect, except on the emotional journey . The end of Acting Lessons was really something. It took me days to recover tbh ^^
But hey, because the last chapter of BaDIK was called, if i remenbered right, "calm before storm", i bet the storm will coming soon enough, uh?
Dr Pincake know how to put a plotwist at the end of each chapter and some make the wait really difficult! So yeah let's hope we will have the next chapter soon enough but i guess the wait is the price to pay to have a game of this quality.
@@Eldiran1 Calm before the Snow*
@@AD240pCharlie Right buddy, thanks for the correction.
That doesn't mean that this christmas dinner wouldn't go without problem (or was it a flashback?).
We will know soon enough : )
Have you tried Leap of Faith?
@@darthfinality Leap of Faith is an amazing game. I'm eager to see what will be the next game of the dev, considering the quality of this game.
I know some people think it's not that great, and a lot of people are angry with the ex of the MC (didn't remenbered her name even if i really liked her route). Personnaly i disagree, especialy when you know why she did what she did (that doesn't excuse all but it's a good explanation )
PS: i'm team CeCe of course : )
There's one game I like called Dystopian Robot Girlfriend that has banger music, really neat writing, and a relatable PC lol
Another one is called Harem Hotel, but that one could be hit or miss for some people.
Harem Hotel was awesome until the dev went full SJW with the plot a few years ago. I dropped it when you save those elves and they still treat you like the enemy even though you're literally helping their resistance directly. It's almost an exact copy of IRL protester behavior.
I think the dev kind of ran out of ideas for events, but its making so much money that it is understandable he doesn't want to end it and try a new series that may flop. This is pretty much the problem with all of the popular games except for Carbdis since he actually did complete a popular game to move to a new series with Eternum. Frankly Eturnum is extremely overrated IMO, but I respect him not milking Once in a Lifetime, which had a fantastic ending for a harem game.
0:53 bro I thought the hair flinging out was one of those menacing kanji from jojo because that’s absolutely a pose you’d see in jojo, but honestly, I’ve been obsessing over jojo for too long and everything is a jojo reference
One game changed my outlook on a couple things for the worse. And by a lot.
I know that there have been other people who have had a similar experience but the community dismisses them as "haters" rather than a criticism on the entire structure that they've built.
This is has definitely scarred my introduction into this genre and marred its image in my mind, probably for a long time if not forever
Never thought i see a day where eternum is on a youtube thumbnail but here we are. I got into it because i played the creators previous game and was not entirely dissapointed with how it turned out ngl
Tbh I appreciate the problematic themes in some of these games, because they're a clear-cut representation of what and what isn't the result of a moral failing.
For example, certain R18 JRPGs would cover the concept of obsession and abusing yourself, and of toxicity.
None could bear down the hammer as well as these do, because while they might have scenes that ostensibly illustrate the scenario for fetish value, narratively, they also cover the self-destruction of everyone involved, and how not only you are incredibly obsessed with this *one thing* in that game, but everyone is somehow *obsessed* over you too, like a self-destructive ouroboros.
And the beauty here? Freeing yourself from this cycle takes a LOT of effort, and rewards you very little beyond the fact that despite losing everything, you still escaped from your predicament when it could have gotten worse; a cool metaphor for going cold turkey, as you deny yourself the previous pleasures you had with obsessing over substances or actions and become a functional person.
Ending H will forever be my GOAT.
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If this were a standard JRPG, the exploration would be surface level and have difficulties in making you relate.
I don't argue that everyone should play it; you already stated that the more questionable ones require more effort to find, and trigger warnings should be provided all the same, but art is art. Some adult games bypass the ghetto of making smut for smut's own purposes ala Witcher 3, where those scenes were optional and added little of value to the game, but they just get derided for being cheap without given a real chance.
I played Nikke for the hot anime girls, made me cry instead....
Two words.
Ruru, Overzone.
@@jefftheindianchief8279 I add two more: Red Ash. (If you know you know)
Lmao, Brother Wei has been the pioneer of that "art form". HI3 is the first game that I know that did that
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No idea what a scum slot machine "game" has to do with the games in question? It is neither adult nor worthy of anyone who is not a gambling addict.
@@ganshrio7336 did you play it at least?
I play AVNs, and I am 67 years old, so trust me I have done in real life more than what many AVNs show! Nevertheless, I play them because they tend to have better characters and better stories than most other genres! I mean, what genre gives you a story and characters like Leap of Faith, for example!
leap of faith is probably the best AVN i've played
Awesome
hahaha Another old guy ? I am 67 years old as well. But I play modding skyrim with loverslab and that's about it. Did play fallout 4 but its sex mod manager isn't very good. Looked at a few incl the katawa game years ago but was not interested. Well congrats on your longevity. Mine has pretty much died out. I play to be someone who is still alive not dead inside like me. Good luck.
@@ANGRYWOLVERINE2060-ft2nc there are so many genres mixed in there you can find a few :)
Im super young compared to u guys but i always say R18 games are good because the tits are already out of the way so you can focus on quality
Leap of faith is one of the best games I played in a while
for real
i think the best adult video game is a game where the s3ks part is not the main goal but some kind of additional game mechanism that make the already good game even better.
Imagine a game like skyrim, the witcher 3, or gta but has really deep dating sims aspect in it and also a seks minigame not just cut scene, where every time you done the deed you got some kind of buff or item that can help you push the story, different partner different buff or item. the stronger your bond with your partner the stronger the buff or the better the item is.
just like in real life, seks itself is not the end goal.
why adult video games are mostly trash because they are barely a game, they are like watching pron but with extra steps
Ok. Im gonna say this with my chest Monster Girl Quest was one of the best games I've ever played. The plot was BEAUTIFUL.
10/10 would reccomend
For anyone new to adult games, I greatly recommend Demons Roots if you're into jrpgs.
Yeah Demon Roots story and characters is better than any final fantasy game I have played!
Both the Fate series and the Tsukihime series started off as eroges, and Nasuverse might be the only property with lore deep and convoluted enough to rival the Blazblue series. So yeah.
I've started playing Karryn's prison for the adult content. Stayed for the combat, management, story, and the adult content. After some time, I've started noticing I'm playing a "virgin" run, avoiding the adult content, because I wanted to see the "pure" ending.
Also, I really like the darker tones in games, like world of Bloodborne, so I really liked playing with Night of Revenge or Whisperer; not (just) for the H content, but for the gritty take on the dark fantasy (I know, it's edgy and that is considered cringe these days, but I like it).
I find it funny that many people view adult games less than normal video games, when in reality they’re just video games with bonus spicy content. Of course there’re bad low effort adult games, but that can be applied to pretty much every other games. And of course like you said, there’re also adult games will left you with an impact just as good as many normal games, but with the bonus of spicy material 😂. Many games I’ve played that just left me speechless and sitting in deep thought after finishing it, and many I played are just for gag and giggle when I don’t have enough time for games with some complex gameplay and engagement. For short, adult games can literally be any genre but with added spanking material 😂.
They are so many that i downloaded for the nut, but end up staying for the plot
It piss me off how we don't really have acceptation for adult games and "adult" is instantly label as just "porn games" and death sentence for sales
Games like:
Leap of Faith
Being a Dik
FreshWoman
Come Home
Game of Hearts.
Elyson
Eternum
Sunshine Love
They are so, sooo many good games that are well writen and with a fascinating story telling. You know the moment the character are originally designed for the game you know is gonna be a banger game. The assets flips games are the ones you should be dodging
Come Home mentioned. Such a well written game. I cried. You actually come to care about the characters in it. This growing genre of nsfw visual novels is so underrated. They're way better than I expected.
Thank you, just thank you, I've been trying to convince many friends of mine to play “adult games”. But always... “no, that's just for jerking off”, ‘that's too sexualizing’ etc.
My favorite adult game so far is “Degrees of Lewdety”.... I highly recommend it.... it has a lot of fetishes you can turn off or on.... but damn... the text makes me cry....
Getting this video recommended to me while the final part of Monster Girl Quest Paradox releases in a week...
... ......... YOOOO HOLD UP ITS OUT *:* 0
Personally I am not that interested in adult games. But I'd really enjoy playing games which allow you to equip lewd or revealing outfits. I really enjoyed Stellar Blade because of it. And many gacha games use this formula by creating attractive characters in sexy outfits. I think this is the goldilocks zone between adult games and regular games.
I play adult games, but I also really miss the days when almost every other game had sexy or just generally attractive characters. I do understand why that’s not the norm anymore, games want to reach a wider audience and I respect many women’s dislike of sexualization. But there’s still an audience for generally sexy games, and I hope Stellar Blade inspires more of them
Nier automata
@@Tyrany42 Don't fall for the lie my dude. Most women who hate sexualization are feminists or feminist influenced. Walk down the street during the summer and find a fair portion of young women wearing clothes just as revealing as anything that they deem inappropriate for games/movies. Whats even worse those same types find nothing wrong with men being sexualised. Men couldn't care less but you'd think these people would complain about movies like magic mike or the unreal proportions of action heroes or game characters. My aunt is one of those yet when she drinks she pinches any young mans backside that gets close and shows off a firefighter calendar which isn't about fire safety. It's all just trying to ruin men's fun to get back at the patriarchy or secure their "power" whatever that means.
There is nothing explicit about those games. Maybe if you live in iran?
@@MrArrow54they are cultists. They just use terms like feminism to try and trick people
There are so many games with female MCs though. Although of course the main consumer demographics are men, but that's just down to brute force numbers.
I ended up discovering some out of curiosity, today these are the types of games that I enjoy the most. My favorite is Good Girl Gone Bad, now I'm looking forward to GTA 6, I hope today's forced ideologies don't ruin the game.
Some of the stories of these games are actual gems. They're usually simple enough, but they still strike a chord.
I played Melody several years ago and actual teared up at the ending I got.
Then you have crazier stuff like Sweetest Monster, which I absolutely loved. It was pretty twisted. I still need to play the sequel!
It's not just companies that make adult games in Japan, there are also indies that make them, called Doujins.
In fact, Doujin means Indie and there are a lot of Doujin works on DLSite.
They also follow the bell curve where most of them are mediocre, a few trash and a few masterpieces.
But there are some Japanese indie adult games that are good, one of which is Secret Flasher Sereka, in which you play as Sereka who's a exhibitionist
Doujin isn't quite indie per se. Because indies can't get away with openly using an IP they don't own, which is common on dlsite.
You might enjoy Subverse. One of the best adult games happening. It's been in beta for a while but is due for it's 1.0 release within in the next three months sometime.
Fate stay night is probably one of the best examples. The plot was so good that it spawned an entire anime adaptation and lots of spinoffs
Tom sent me over here. Really well eloquently put and researched about the adult industry.
The lack of Saya no Uta mentions in the comments is deeply disturbing.
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One of my favourite JP eroge is called Princess Evangile To be fair, before I knew it was supposed to be an eroge I had the censored version on Steam and the story is easily one of the most interesting ones in the eroge sphere. On the surface it does just seem like the average "one guy ends up going into an all-girls school" type story but there are a lot of deeper themes throughout.
How you gonna talk about how deep Adult Games can be without talking about The Last Sovereign?
Because to not miss major stuff in Sierra Lee games you either need to be a complete and utter skitso that checks every nook and cranny 20 times every region/chapter or you HAVE to check a guide every 5 minutes, don't get me wrong the dev(s) is/are amazing writer(s) with very unique stories (Once Ever After is such a amazing deconstruction of ero games) but important missables in classic RPGM games is the dumbest thing I've ever encountered.
After writing all this I realize I'm kinda just unloading on you when it's not even kinda your fault... so uh sorry about that, I'm unironically glad you like The Last Sovereign but I just HATE how good the writing is and how bad the missable bs is 😭
@@calebdavis5428 Okay, that is 100% legit and... not gonna lie, I play TLS with a guidebook open on another screen the entire time.
Eternum is my first and only Adult Game that actually got me invested. And yeah, the point you made of the devs connecting with us was very apparent with it. It’s just so peak! I need to check out the new chapters because I’m like a year behind. 😅
even though these types of games aren’t really my cup of tea one game i can recommend is sunrise city, it’s like ace attorney x my hero academia, i was very surprised when i realised that it was an adult game due to it being so high quality and amazing without the adult content.
The fact that I like in Adult games is anything goes without holding punches be it story, world building and gameplay mechanic and sometimes shows how a game dev idea is actually grander than any triple A games when they weren't hold back by market demand. I just love the fact some people would hush the genre as "Games for Mom and Dad". It still give me chuckles to this day.
Correction: The Rance Series. Rance Quest is only the name of Rance 8: Magnum Quest. The rest of the info seems right. And also, you need to mention that every Rance game has it's own gameplay style. They don't all play like Final Fantasy.
The most emotional adult game I played was "Leap of Faith".
Very great game. Made me almost as emotional as Heavy Rain or Beyond Two souls, very great!
Comparing the adult game scene with the wild west is sooooo accurate.
Gonna call myself out here, but saw the Eternum thumbnail and was instantly intrigued.
Damn, Ripples mentioned too! Love both of those games, they are so well done.
Once in a lifetime is peak 8:43. 10/10 masterpiece
It was great until the last hour or two, a verrrry rushed ending.
Clicked for the curiosity itch, but then...
I stayed for a video essay probably no one would take seriously but you genuinely made interesting, which totally captured my intrigue through your video champ.
No one:
That one sfx: G A Y 🤣
It’s screwed that I recognize the character on your thumbnail. My goodness I’ve been following this dev for years now.
May i ask what it is
@@quarreneverett4767The game is Eternum ( mid story but the visuals are awful)
@@cernunnos8344 oh really the character in thumbnail looks bery detailed. Maybe it is a cg?
@quarreneverett4767 nah, only the women look great in most of these types of games. Everything outside of that, including the mc and surrounding are terrible.
@@har7649 i am co fused now. Are you talking about the thumbnail or something else.
Well said and good that you've got Tom to help you out on that topic.
That reminds me, that i have a few updates to play...i'm out, cya! :)
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Not sure if it counts as an adult game. However, Nier Automata got me into reading philosophy
tbf knowing YokoTaro he prolly started as gamedev from doujin stuff, maybe as a writer, most of them did haha
i recommend playing Drakengard 1 and 3 if you liked Nier(and also Replicant ofc). they are as i like to call "shitty masterpieces".
@@sanderkiki already played them
I mostly speak about Japanese games, but a lot of times, genuinely extreme "fetishes" are meant to help convey the lengths the story is willing to go to make their point rather than feeling like they are just there for pleasure. A villian in a fantasy adventure RPG genuinely doing something that is horrid without the theatrical voice acting you'd expect in these scenes to make the scenario digestible and fun to watch for example, these do come up to make a point about the game's narrative direction.
I've seen people that think it's ok to skip over scenes that they don't find pleasurable, but that just feels like a very disingenuous way of reading these stories when they get serious and try to make you feel revolted on purpose. It's suppose to take something beautiful and twist it into something horror-esque, to get you to care and feel concerned about the character's in question or understand the weight of the world they live in.
quite true. it's unfortunate that the people with the money go "noooo you can't do that, because i said so" and go around restricting crap
Kawata shoujo
If you haven't played it you are missing out, uncensored ofc
Adult games, usualy VA's dare to go a step further with relationships, making them deeper and genuine, usually far more believable and detailed.
If you are a VN enjoyer you know execly what i mean.
Now on the other hand we still need a game to break the mold, we were all hoping it would be subverse but yeah it wasn't thaaaat good in the gameplay aspect, Carnal lust has some promise for open world kinda rpg game , so does Wild life, both having a lot of.. content atm, WL having a lot more freedom.
Katawa Shoujo gives a lot of people depression, but it cured mine.
So I’m an enjoyer of adult games, though I take pretty long breaks in between playing them since playing them a lot of course will get boring. Anyways, what makes me keep playing the games are the plot, and man the plot can be so good sometimes. While I don’t often think too much about about how a character looks, one really good VN (Once in a Lifetime) I played had such an ugly MC that u was so close to quitting it, luckily he got a haircut which made him go from a 0/10 to a spoiled 8/10. Another game I played (Agent 88 I think?) fairly recently had such a unlikable MC that I, of course, stopped playing it. No seriously he was so stupidly unlikeable that I cursed him for weeks on end even after I deleted it.
Though one gripe I have is that the MC the player is supposed to be is usually male, and I think it would be nice if there were more adult VN’s where the MC is a girl. I’m a girl.
Shoutout to the Japanese VN community for being the pioneer of adult gaming (or porn in general lol)
P/S: Also it's weird that you recommend the 9+ game of the Rance series
i mean, they're responsible for koikatsu and kisekae too. somehow, while making those things, they've made the best 2d and 3d character creators i know of, just by accident
Started playing these games on December last year while in limbo waiting for my internship. Started for the... "research", stayed for the story. Kinda helped me stay sane while nothing happened.
Nowadays as an aspiring creator of sorts, I couldn't stop thinking of adult scenarios and even dabbled in NSFW art now. Hoping to do something productive with those things in the future.
Play Summer's Gone, the story is really amazing and complex
"Monstergirl quest" Is a Classic of the "Came For the porn, stay For the story" ero games
I like sex with layers nowadays, which I why I hate it when people are lazy with the idea of adult content being more than just the porn. I like Interspecies Reviewers because it explored the ideas of sex culture among fictional races, not just getting your nut and moving on. Sex as a theme can be entertaining, not just an easy way to get rid of your arousal.