As we bring 2024 to a close, do you think 50kW DC fast chargers are still fast enough? Or should providers start thinking about upgrading existing sites to higher speeds? Let me know in the comments what you think!
Until Ionna and / or Tesla chargers are available (writing of PC chargers). 50 KW are paid for, working and used. There is no incentive to incur the cost of upgrading to higher speeds. But on my road trip across the prairies I did find some COOP 100 kw chargers. Which were much better.
I would say that 50kW has its place but not along a busy highway linking big cities in Canada like what you showed in the video. They are great in urban environments. But along busy roads 150kW should be standard. That’s if you cannot use the Tesla Supercharger like you couldn’t and had to rely on CCS. Your summary proves that even with a slightly faster charge you are done and on your way that much quicker. Good video!
Enjoyed your trip,we also have a Soul (2020) ,rarely get sub zero temps in Ireland so our average consumption is about 14-18 kwh/100km summer-winter... We can use Tesla chargers on those rare occasions when needed Happy New Year !
Plugshare shows that the hotel across from where you charged in Lloyd has installed a 160 kW charger. It doesn't say which network or how it accepts payment, but it would've sped you up a bit.
Thanks for this! Didn't see if when I was planning this route at the beginning of December, but it looks like it should have already been operational then. I see it now on PlugShare. Definitely would have made the trip a little faster!
@@LeftCoastEVLloyd has been a terrible first and last stop on an eastbound road trip. If Saskatoon upgrades to something decent too, the drive to Regina will be less of a chore.
Let’s see what happens in Saskatoon. I’m always happy to see many EVs on the road there so I am guessing there would be sufficient demand for faster charging.
Even with Tesla chargers, Your charging speed would be low until the battery warmed up. Only then would you receive 75 KW until you reach 57%. However with access to Tesla you might be able to schedule arrival at chargers at a lower charge percent. To get more time at 75 KW. I am waiting to see if and when my Kona gets access. 50 KW charges are slow but they do then to work.
Totally agree. Battery temperature is the most important factor to achieve good charging speeds especially in winter. With the Soul EV I need the battery to be at 26 degrees C for optimal charging (your Kona would be similar). After that one just needs to charge to around 50%, got to next charger and then you will still arrive with a warm battery. I am also waiting for news from Kia if and when the Soul EV will get access. This will make my road trips in Northern Alberta much easier. We go to Jasper to ski quite a lot and apart from the V3 Superchargers all we have is 50kW Flo units.
Same car.. I tried but I still cannot get your efficiency.. I get around 23-25 kw/100km instead of your 20-21.. I have nokian wrg5 (ev specific all weather tires) inflated to 38psi cold.. Kia recommends 36.. Only difference could be that I have window deflectors, could it be that?
I would take off the window deflectors and see if it improves your efficiency. It could very well be this. I am running my winter tires right now, Nokian Hakkapeliitta R5 and I inflate mine to 36 cold. My R5's are not the EV ones so efficiency does take a bit of a hit, maybe around 1 to 1.5 kWh more per 100 km. My final efficiency after this run was 21 kWh/100km with an average outside temp of 3 degrees C.
I might do some testing around here (SE MI) later this winter to see how my Mach-E Rally does. I am much less efficient, but I have a larger battery and access to the SC network. ABRP suggests I will not do much better over 1000 km than you did. 50 KW is too slow for the EVs we now have. That said, 50 KW beats no DCFC at all.
Agree. Slower DC fast charging is still DC fast charging. It would be good to see what your real world result would be over 1000km. If you do this, please come back and share your results!
Happy trails. We found Sask has better access to charging than AB. But Tesla access is a must if you want to save time. Those 50kw units are really bad, when both are used by Chev Bolts charging to 90& 100%.? I’d be very carful of deer before sun up, they can run right at your head lights. And moose!
I have no issue with the current Shell infrastructure. They are turning a new leaf and really investing in EV charging. The units in Calgary and much of BC are quite reliable.
On major highways like this you need faster charging than 50kW or access to the superchargers. Otherwise it will be like you showed in this video. A bit too painful indeed.
Most Tesla superchargers are opened to all cars in France and I think most of Europe, I was assuming it was the same in Canada. I am always happy to see other brands are superchargers, especially when the charge port is at the "right" position 😅.
Ok, now I am at the end of the video and I understand it depends of the car, older ones have issues at superchargers. I was not aware of that, or maybe it is not the case in Europe since most superchargers and cars are CCS2.
Not in North America. There are some superchargers that have a “magic dock” installed which is essentially an adapter that allows you to charge a CCS car. Other superchargers (the version 3 ones) are so far opened to a few brands of other cars like Polestar, Chevy, Ford and a few more. My Kia does not have supercharger access right now.
Exactly. Europe standardized the charging port to CCS2 across all brands even for Tesla. In North America Tesla uses NACS which only recently became our standard. So in a few years all cars will be with a NACS port and CCS will be phased out. Europe was much quicker at standardizing charging for all EVs than we were.
@@LeftCoastEVYou still have V2 Superchargers in Europe with CCS2 and older Type 2 for Legacy Tesla! Otherwise there is a CCS2 to Type 2 adapter. Yes even Europe isn’t immune from adapters
Interesting video and thanks for sharing your experience. I'm in the UK where distances are smaller and there is a much better availability of CCS chargers with speeds in excess of what the KIA SOUL will take (it was after all launched in 2019) . Personally my KIA Soul is never rapid charged - for me the SOUL is great city / suburban car with enough range to always get back home with loads of charge left and take a fill up at home. If was I doing regular long distance runs in the UK I'd probably look something bigger like an Hyundai Ioniq5 / KIA EV6 with faster charging or a Tesla Model Y but their supercharger network is not the same 'game changer' that it is outside N. America.
Oh for sure the faster charging EVs like the EV6 you mentioned are the perfect road trip vehicles. You will never have to wait for them to be ready…they will be waiting for you to finish up what you were doing while they charged at over 200kW. But for me it’s always interesting to see if one can do a trip like this in an older slower charging EV. Glad you liked the video!
@@LeftCoastEV Both the KIA Soul and Gen1 Hyundia Kona's have 64KWhr battery pack options (mine like yours is the 64) and share much of the same running gear as the Kona which back in 2019 when they launched gave class leading range for a small SUV format. DC fast charging was back then great in comparison to everything else and more than OK. Time moves on - but this car unlike Nissan Leafs etc. of the time is still very useable today - just needs a little planning on a very long trip and these cars seam to be lasting well.
This is the reason I bought mine in 2021. It has good range, charged fast for the time and it was available on the dealer lot. I was also looking at the Model 3 Standard Range Plus but there was a long wait time and I needed a car right away. Plus like you said it’s still very much usable today.
It's my first winter with my ev... over 3-4 degrees I'm good... under that omg it's terrible. I'm not super confident when I have to go outside of the city, because it happen to often to me fast charger not in service and end up on the nearest slow charger. Very good video by the way
Thanks! Glad you liked the video. This has always been the biggest issue with chargers: reliability. This is why people who can charge on the Tesla network prefer it over everything else. It’s the most reliable.
@@LeftCoastEV I cannot charger at Tesla charger with my small ev but my car can charge a tesla or any other electric car. This is the stupidest feature on my car because it only have a 16kw/h battery
My Bolt can charge slower than yours! :) I got Lectron adapters for Tesla charging, which is a game changer for me for travel, even though Tesla charging is far-more expensive than BC Hydro chargers. Lower speeds help so much with range.
Chevy owners are lucky to have Supercharger access. Kia said something about a limited number of cars getting it in 2025 and no mention of the Kia Soul EV. I for one would pay a bit more to charge faster on a road trip.
Charge curve is an important aspect, if a higher charge speed can be maintained then the charging will be quicker as I'm sure you know. This video seems more about the infrastructure where you are I guess.
Correct. This was more about the infrastructure than charging curve since I did the trip last year in a Model Y and wanted to see how quickly my Kia can do the same. But I agree charge curve matters and EV owners need to know how to optimize their charging if they don’t want to spend too much time at the charger.
50 Kw was good but that doesn't fit with the abilities of the new Ev's coming out. I think 150 should be available , especially along highways, at all charging stations. When you think about how much carbon taxes are being paid to the government , upgrading charging stations should be easy. Nissan just made the Tesla chargers available for the Ariya, the adapter is about $300 from Nissan. What are you using to display your car information on your smart phone? Great video and thx.
I’m using the app Car Scanner along with the OBDLink CX dongle. Link to dongle in the description of the video. Car Scanner is available for both iPhone and Android. Yup agree with you on the carbon tax and reinvesting it into EV infrastructure. Nissan is starting to roll out Supercharger access for Ariya and Kia said it’s up next in early 2025 but no mention of the Soul EV being supported. They only indicated the EV6 and EV9 being up first. Hope they will allow us with the older cars to join in on the party too. Glad you liked the video!
@@LeftCoastEV the NEW Ioniq 5 comes with the NACS plug factory but so far I have heard NOTHING about the Ioniq electric getting access to Tesla and the "national" carbon tax is returned to consumers so NO money to re invest into anything the BC and Quebec ones can and I believe are plowed into green expansion but BC Hydro said NOTHING about it on an interview on the everything electric Vancouver show interviews this September
If the charger is working properly it should charge your car no problem. Will it take longer because of the cold? Yes. Be prepared. Bring a book, walk to a coffee shop, browse thru a bookstore, whatever. This is how EVs are they are not exactly like a gas car. !
I was going to get the EV9 but decided against it and going for Cybertruck. After renting an bolt ev in southern California last year for two weeks and then a LR Model 3 this year, both in SOCAL I decided that when it comes to charging the Tesla supercharger network is heads and shoulder above. Does not seem to have broken chargers and don't have to play the charging roulette to see if the car will start charging every time. Just get there and plug in. Simple. Even if chargers are all busy it tells me estimated wait time. NICE. EV9 also seems to only charge @ 84 kW on 400V so even with the new plug its not great. Also the GOM on the Tesla seems to be very accurate, takes the worry out of planning.
Tesla software and route planning is second to none. I never fully trust other vehicles but when a Tesla says you arrive with 5% you will arrive at 5% which is just amazing. Plus like you said the Supercharger network is relaible. Once V4 rolls out you will be able to take full advantage of the Cybertruck 800v architecture. Great choice IMO. Let me know how you like it once you buy it!
@@marcin_pisz great choice on the Cybertruck. I would have chosen it over the EV9 any day of the week. Tesla software and charging is just above the rest. Enjoy it!
Why do you have the car? I don't see you explaining that. The people who have it or similar slower charging cars explain their reasons, usually cuz it was cheap. You constantly compare to the Tesla but if at the same time you explained how much money you saved by getting this car, people can make their decisions better like you did, although by you not mentioning it, it's almost like you borrowed the car.
If you did one click and looked at my channel (and not a singular video) then you would quickly see that the Kia Soul EV is my private vehicle that I purchased back in 2021. I bought it new but as years went by the battery and charging tech improved quite a bit. So now at the end of 2024 it is an older EV that chargers a bit slower. The comparison to the Tesla is simply because I did the same run, along the same route last year in a Tesla Model Y. So this video is a companion piece that that first run. Thanks for watching!
@@LeftCoastEV thanks for answering. The algorithm revealed this single video to me. The channels who mention the Kia Soul (sole?) always go into the value for money in a summary at the intro, So I sorta expected you to do that. It sounds like your love affair for it has soured long ago and you sorta can't find the energy to applaud its fortes and maybe should get a few more vids out of it then sell it. But of course I shouldn't tell you what to do, it's just that it sounds like you are tired of it. But even that is good, it definitely is a car that can get someone into the ev market as a local run about, especially if they have long distance covered in another car. I imagine that's how I'll get into the ev market, but in the mean time I'll watch more vids about used EVs and consider when our two diesels will best be put to pasture.
@@gmosc actually the opposite. I still really like the car and will be keeping it until it dies. My son will be getting his license soon and this will be his first car (I want him to drive electric from day one). I want to document the whole life cycle of an EV to debunk as many myths as I can along the way. What does make me a little tired is that where I live the rollout of EV charging infrastructure is really slow compared to other parts of Canada. This is the biggest issue. The video is more about not being able to charge my Soul EV at its fullest capable charging speed instead of me hating on the car. Sure, if you are shopping for a new EV, then choose one that has faster charging, but if you are looking for a used older vehicle, you can't really go wrong with the Soul EV, Niro or older Kona. Also, thanks for clicking on the video, glad you are here and check out the many other videos I did with the Soul EV over the years!
This wasn’t a comparison with ICE. I don’t drive ICE. I compare doing the same last year with a Tesla so conclusion is do road trips in Tesla or other fast charging EV that can charge on the Tesla network.
As we bring 2024 to a close, do you think 50kW DC fast chargers are still fast enough? Or should providers start thinking about upgrading existing sites to higher speeds? Let me know in the comments what you think!
Until Ionna and / or Tesla chargers are available (writing of PC chargers). 50 KW are paid for, working and used. There is no incentive to incur the cost of upgrading to higher speeds. But on my road trip across the prairies I did find some COOP 100 kw chargers. Which were much better.
Really hoping Ionna will make its way up north to Canada.
@LeftCoastEV I do to, but looking at their website. They will concentrate on the US for now. No mention of us.
I love 50kw chargers! If they are in the right location. If I’m enjoying a meal break faster ones are just too fast.
Agree. The right place for the right charger is what this is all about.
I would say that 50kW has its place but not along a busy highway linking big cities in Canada like what you showed in the video. They are great in urban environments. But along busy roads 150kW should be standard. That’s if you cannot use the Tesla Supercharger like you couldn’t and had to rely on CCS. Your summary proves that even with a slightly faster charge you are done and on your way that much quicker. Good video!
My Bolt says: "Why would anyone need faster than 50kw charging???" :)
Haha the Bolt is still an amazing EV and now with Supercharger access it’s a great second electric car!
@LeftCoastEV My Bolt's my only four-wheeled vehicle, though I just picked up a '21 crf300L dual sport.
Very good video. Outside temperature is important.
Thank you, glad you enjoyed it!
Enjoyed your trip,we also have a Soul (2020) ,rarely get sub zero temps in Ireland so our average consumption is about 14-18 kwh/100km summer-winter...
We can use Tesla chargers on those rare occasions when needed
Happy New Year !
Glad you enjoyed the video! Oh that is great consumption! Happy New Year!
Plugshare shows that the hotel across from where you charged in Lloyd has installed a 160 kW charger. It doesn't say which network or how it accepts payment, but it would've sped you up a bit.
Thanks for this! Didn't see if when I was planning this route at the beginning of December, but it looks like it should have already been operational then. I see it now on PlugShare. Definitely would have made the trip a little faster!
@@LeftCoastEVLloyd has been a terrible first and last stop on an eastbound road trip. If Saskatoon upgrades to something decent too, the drive to Regina will be less of a chore.
Let’s see what happens in Saskatoon. I’m always happy to see many EVs on the road there so I am guessing there would be sufficient demand for faster charging.
Even with Tesla chargers, Your charging speed would be low until the battery warmed up. Only then would you receive 75 KW until you reach 57%. However with access to Tesla you might be able to schedule arrival at chargers at a lower charge percent. To get more time at 75 KW. I am waiting to see if and when my Kona gets access. 50 KW charges are slow but they do then to work.
Totally agree. Battery temperature is the most important factor to achieve good charging speeds especially in winter. With the Soul EV I need the battery to be at 26 degrees C for optimal charging (your Kona would be similar). After that one just needs to charge to around 50%, got to next charger and then you will still arrive with a warm battery. I am also waiting for news from Kia if and when the Soul EV will get access. This will make my road trips in Northern Alberta much easier. We go to Jasper to ski quite a lot and apart from the V3 Superchargers all we have is 50kW Flo units.
Does the Soal pre-heat the battery when heading to a fast charger ?
No it does not. It has a “winter mode” that keeps the battery slightly warmer but it’s not the same as battery preconditioning.
Same car.. I tried but I still cannot get your efficiency.. I get around 23-25 kw/100km instead of your 20-21..
I have nokian wrg5 (ev specific all weather tires) inflated to 38psi cold.. Kia recommends 36..
Only difference could be that I have window deflectors, could it be that?
I would take off the window deflectors and see if it improves your efficiency. It could very well be this. I am running my winter tires right now, Nokian Hakkapeliitta R5 and I inflate mine to 36 cold. My R5's are not the EV ones so efficiency does take a bit of a hit, maybe around 1 to 1.5 kWh more per 100 km. My final efficiency after this run was 21 kWh/100km with an average outside temp of 3 degrees C.
I might do some testing around here (SE MI) later this winter to see how my Mach-E Rally does. I am much less efficient, but I have a larger battery and access to the SC network. ABRP suggests I will not do much better over 1000 km than you did.
50 KW is too slow for the EVs we now have. That said, 50 KW beats no DCFC at all.
Agree. Slower DC fast charging is still DC fast charging. It would be good to see what your real world result would be over 1000km. If you do this, please come back and share your results!
Happy trails. We found Sask has better access to charging than AB. But Tesla access is a must if you want to save time. Those 50kw units are really bad, when both are used by Chev Bolts charging to 90& 100%.?
I’d be very carful of deer before sun up, they can run right at your head lights. And moose!
I agree that SK is doing better with EV charging than AB. Thanks for the heads up about the animals!
out "east" in Manitoba we have lots of shell recharge 100/150 units
I have no issue with the current Shell infrastructure. They are turning a new leaf and really investing in EV charging. The units in Calgary and much of BC are quite reliable.
On major highways like this you need faster charging than 50kW or access to the superchargers. Otherwise it will be like you showed in this video. A bit too painful indeed.
I would say that 150kW should be standard in the coming years along major roads like this.
Most Tesla superchargers are opened to all cars in France and I think most of Europe, I was assuming it was the same in Canada. I am always happy to see other brands are superchargers, especially when the charge port is at the "right" position 😅.
Ok, now I am at the end of the video and I understand it depends of the car, older ones have issues at superchargers. I was not aware of that, or maybe it is not the case in Europe since most superchargers and cars are CCS2.
Not in North America. There are some superchargers that have a “magic dock” installed which is essentially an adapter that allows you to charge a CCS car. Other superchargers (the version 3 ones) are so far opened to a few brands of other cars like Polestar, Chevy, Ford and a few more. My Kia does not have supercharger access right now.
Exactly. Europe standardized the charging port to CCS2 across all brands even for Tesla. In North America Tesla uses NACS which only recently became our standard. So in a few years all cars will be with a NACS port and CCS will be phased out. Europe was much quicker at standardizing charging for all EVs than we were.
@@LeftCoastEVYou still have V2 Superchargers in Europe with CCS2 and older Type 2 for Legacy Tesla! Otherwise there is a CCS2 to Type 2 adapter. Yes even Europe isn’t immune from adapters
Interesting. Didn’t know that. I’ve not driven an EV in Europe yet so this is good info.
Interesting video and thanks for sharing your experience. I'm in the UK where distances are smaller and there is a much better availability of CCS chargers with speeds in excess of what the KIA SOUL will take (it was after all launched in 2019) . Personally my KIA Soul is never rapid charged - for me the SOUL is great city / suburban car with enough range to always get back home with loads of charge left and take a fill up at home. If was I doing regular long distance runs in the UK I'd probably look something bigger like an Hyundai Ioniq5 / KIA EV6 with faster charging or a Tesla Model Y but their supercharger network is not the same 'game changer' that it is outside N. America.
Oh for sure the faster charging EVs like the EV6 you mentioned are the perfect road trip vehicles. You will never have to wait for them to be ready…they will be waiting for you to finish up what you were doing while they charged at over 200kW. But for me it’s always interesting to see if one can do a trip like this in an older slower charging EV. Glad you liked the video!
@@LeftCoastEV Both the KIA Soul and Gen1 Hyundia Kona's have 64KWhr battery pack options (mine like yours is the 64) and share much of the same running gear as the Kona which back in 2019 when they launched gave class leading range for a small SUV format. DC fast charging was back then great in comparison to everything else and more than OK. Time moves on - but this car unlike Nissan Leafs etc. of the time is still very useable today - just needs a little planning on a very long trip and these cars seam to be lasting well.
This is the reason I bought mine in 2021. It has good range, charged fast for the time and it was available on the dealer lot. I was also looking at the Model 3 Standard Range Plus but there was a long wait time and I needed a car right away. Plus like you said it’s still very much usable today.
It's my first winter with my ev... over 3-4 degrees I'm good... under that omg it's terrible. I'm not super confident when I have to go outside of the city, because it happen to often to me fast charger not in service and end up on the nearest slow charger. Very good video by the way
Thanks! Glad you liked the video. This has always been the biggest issue with chargers: reliability. This is why people who can charge on the Tesla network prefer it over everything else. It’s the most reliable.
@@LeftCoastEV I cannot charger at Tesla charger with my small ev but my car can charge a tesla or any other electric car. This is the stupidest feature on my car because it only have a 16kw/h battery
What car do you drive?
@@LeftCoastEV Mitsubishi i miev 2016
Classic EV. Love it. I’m guessing you also have the CHAdeMO port as well. I always wanted to drive one!
My Bolt can charge slower than yours! :) I got Lectron adapters for Tesla charging, which is a game changer for me for travel, even though Tesla charging is far-more expensive than BC Hydro chargers. Lower speeds help so much with range.
Chevy owners are lucky to have Supercharger access. Kia said something about a limited number of cars getting it in 2025 and no mention of the Kia Soul EV. I for one would pay a bit more to charge faster on a road trip.
@@LeftCoastEV the Soul EV is not sold in the US, I hope that is the reason they did not talk about it specifically
I mean, if they give it to the Kona and Niro, the soul is the same battery/drivetrain
@@gnumel I think the Soul ev is a fantastic package that's been overlooked.
It's a shame they never sold the new version of the Soul EV in the US. It's a great EV.
Charge curve is an important aspect, if a higher charge speed can be maintained then the charging will be quicker as I'm sure you know.
This video seems more about the infrastructure where you are I guess.
Correct. This was more about the infrastructure than charging curve since I did the trip last year in a Model Y and wanted to see how quickly my Kia can do the same. But I agree charge curve matters and EV owners need to know how to optimize their charging if they don’t want to spend too much time at the charger.
Starting at 2:00 in the morning! Wow - that is an early start.
With shorter days during December I wanted to drive as much as I could during daytime hours. Plus no traffic and empty chargers!
50 Kw was good but that doesn't fit with the abilities of the new Ev's coming out. I think 150 should be available , especially along highways, at all charging stations.
When you think about how much carbon taxes are being paid to the government , upgrading charging stations should be easy.
Nissan just made the Tesla chargers available for the Ariya, the adapter is about $300 from Nissan.
What are you using to display your car information on your smart phone?
Great video and thx.
I’m using the app Car Scanner along with the OBDLink CX dongle. Link to dongle in the description of the video. Car Scanner is available for both iPhone and Android. Yup agree with you on the carbon tax and reinvesting it into EV infrastructure. Nissan is starting to roll out Supercharger access for Ariya and Kia said it’s up next in early 2025 but no mention of the Soul EV being supported. They only indicated the EV6 and EV9 being up first. Hope they will allow us with the older cars to join in on the party too. Glad you liked the video!
@@LeftCoastEV the NEW Ioniq 5 comes with the NACS plug factory but so far I have heard NOTHING about the Ioniq electric getting access to Tesla
and the "national" carbon tax is returned to consumers so NO money to re invest into anything the BC and Quebec ones can and I believe are plowed into green expansion but BC Hydro said NOTHING about it on an interview on the everything electric Vancouver show interviews this September
Saskatchewan: Land of the Living Skies
That’s what it is! Forgot to put the caption in the video.
14 hrs
Good guess! You are very close.
They call him Bjorns Canadian cousin.
I wish but sadly I am not as iconic as Bjorn!
If the charger is working properly it should charge your car no problem. Will it take longer because of the cold? Yes.
Be prepared. Bring a book, walk to a coffee shop, browse thru a bookstore, whatever. This is how EVs are they are
not exactly like a gas car.
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Thanks for the tips!
I was going to get the EV9 but decided against it and going for Cybertruck. After renting an bolt ev in southern California last year for two weeks and then a LR Model 3 this year, both in SOCAL I decided that when it comes to charging the Tesla supercharger network is heads and shoulder above. Does not seem to have broken chargers and don't have to play the charging roulette to see if the car will start charging every time. Just get there and plug in. Simple. Even if chargers are all busy it tells me estimated wait time. NICE. EV9 also seems to only charge @ 84 kW on 400V so even with the new plug its not great. Also the GOM on the Tesla seems to be very accurate, takes the worry out of planning.
Tesla software and route planning is second to none. I never fully trust other vehicles but when a Tesla says you arrive with 5% you will arrive at 5% which is just amazing. Plus like you said the Supercharger network is relaible. Once V4 rolls out you will be able to take full advantage of the Cybertruck 800v architecture. Great choice IMO. Let me know how you like it once you buy it!
@@marcin_pisz great choice on the Cybertruck. I would have chosen it over the EV9 any day of the week. Tesla software and charging is just above the rest. Enjoy it!
You literally bought the worst vehicle made on the planet.
Why do you have the car? I don't see you explaining that. The people who have it or similar slower charging cars explain their reasons, usually cuz it was cheap. You constantly compare to the Tesla but if at the same time you explained how much money you saved by getting this car, people can make their decisions better like you did, although by you not mentioning it, it's almost like you borrowed the car.
If you did one click and looked at my channel (and not a singular video) then you would quickly see that the Kia Soul EV is my private vehicle that I purchased back in 2021. I bought it new but as years went by the battery and charging tech improved quite a bit. So now at the end of 2024 it is an older EV that chargers a bit slower. The comparison to the Tesla is simply because I did the same run, along the same route last year in a Tesla Model Y. So this video is a companion piece that that first run. Thanks for watching!
@@LeftCoastEV thanks for answering. The algorithm revealed this single video to me. The channels who mention the Kia Soul (sole?) always go into the value for money in a summary at the intro, So I sorta expected you to do that.
It sounds like your love affair for it has soured long ago and you sorta can't find the energy to applaud its fortes and maybe should get a few more vids out of it then sell it. But of course I shouldn't tell you what to do, it's just that it sounds like you are tired of it. But even that is good, it definitely is a car that can get someone into the ev market as a local run about, especially if they have long distance covered in another car. I imagine that's how I'll get into the ev market, but in the mean time I'll watch more vids about used EVs and consider when our two diesels will best be put to pasture.
@@gmosc actually the opposite. I still really like the car and will be keeping it until it dies. My son will be getting his license soon and this will be his first car (I want him to drive electric from day one). I want to document the whole life cycle of an EV to debunk as many myths as I can along the way. What does make me a little tired is that where I live the rollout of EV charging infrastructure is really slow compared to other parts of Canada. This is the biggest issue. The video is more about not being able to charge my Soul EV at its fullest capable charging speed instead of me hating on the car. Sure, if you are shopping for a new EV, then choose one that has faster charging, but if you are looking for a used older vehicle, you can't really go wrong with the Soul EV, Niro or older Kona. Also, thanks for clicking on the video, glad you are here and check out the many other videos I did with the Soul EV over the years!
of course its painful... its an ev... if you want easy you buy an ICE car
This wasn’t a comparison with ICE. I don’t drive ICE. I compare doing the same last year with a Tesla so conclusion is do road trips in Tesla or other fast charging EV that can charge on the Tesla network.
yea theres no reason to do this in that car....