I wanna see them in the next Spider-man movie. Matt for defense, Jen for Prosecution. Gives a reason for her blood transfusion: Banner turns up to give evidence/character witness for Peter, courtroom gets attacked...
I feel like She-Hulk's comic origin set her apart from all the other Gamma freaks who just happened to get pelted by Gamma rays or some such and become monsters. She got her powers out of an act of familial love, not some scientific accident or mishap. I hope she doesn't become just another Gamma freak in the MCU.
I already went on a She-Hulk tangent in another video, but I love her contrast between Hulk and herself. She's more human shaped, rather than muscles on top of muscles, yet still shredded and built. Her personality is energized, being more outgoing, still being intelligent, yet also having a temper at times. She's what essentially what bruce strived for, and making her just another "Hulk" would be rather boring... Which they did, and I hope doesn't get adapted as the main look in the MCU, because from the details I know, it's sticking close to the famous runs, like Dan Slott's.
She Hulk is one of those heroes that does stand on her own, a female version of a male counterpart, but one never intended to take over but stood on her own, and with John Byrne, really stood out.
There are standards that comics have to meet maybe that's why no visible blood. Depending on where she was hit, there could be internal bleeding. The interesting part. this initial run after it was stopped for low salles is she decided to stay as the she hulk all the time and wanted to get rid of Jen Walters and tay as the She hulk all the time.
I arguably like She-Hulk more then regular Hulk. There's something really interesting about this obvious hero looking person also just strutting around law offices all green but doing a civilian job. She just feels like such a different character then not just the hulk but most heroes too.
I've always liked the She-Hulk. What I remember was that from the start Jen was more in control than Bruce (though she still had a temper), and that she had a continuing job as a lawyer. This was a sufficient differentiation of the characters for me. (I really liked the Sensational She-Hulk run, though that was a different series).
thing about she-hulk is that she's not even a full-time hero: she's a full-time lawyer and a PART-TIME hero. she's got her own shit going on and while she doesn't mind saving the day if asked to,her focus is the successful career she had built for herself long before she ever got superpowers and is unwilling to give up. it makes her different from not only the hulk,but pretty much ever other hero as well.
She Hulk is seriously underrated. She has had some excellent storylines by David and Slott. The name issue that Stan Lee had was pretty funny, Sasha. Thank you for telling us/ reminding us!
I really hope they don’t change her origin. She’s grown from that starting point into an awesome and unique character. Also you can’t change an origin and pretend she’s not a derivative of Bruce. She happens to be one of the best and most beloved derivative characters out there. Above X-23, Captain Marvel and maybe even Miles Morales. Besides I won’t sleep until I see her and Matt Murdock in court together.
I always thought her origin was clever. They had the same blood type and were related by blood so it doesn't seem like a stretch that she'd get similar powers. The fact that she is portrayed as a developed person with her own life career and criminal enemies makes her feel less like someone who fights crime because solely her powers. She was always a crime fighter in her own way, her body just couldn't keep up with the risks involved. Her origin didn't force her into a super hero career it enabled her to dive in head first of her own accord.
"Gamma radiation's a powerful drug" - Rick James, sidekick of the Hulk. Also, I wonder if the change of her origin to remove Bruce from it is to not have to deal with Universal?
It's not, it's because they don't want her origin associated with a man. Just like they turnedthe original Mar Vell into a woman for the Captain Marvel movie.
@@ItachiUchiha-ut6xj either way she still got her power almost the same way. Instead of the Kree Psychomagnetron, it was a component of the ship that exploded.
@@ItachiUchiha-ut6xj I'm pretty sure the original Mar Vell was an alien who came to Earth as a Kree scout. Stuff happened and Carol Danvers got powers. More stuff happens as the go on to have separate adventures. Yet more stuff happens, Mar Vell dies, Carol goes by a couple of names and even works for Galactus for a while before she takes up the name. She might have given it up once but I'm not sure about that. All this to say that the movie didn't change Mar Vell, they just went with a different Captain Marvel.
Myself. I love her, one of my fave Marvel heroes...which is why i find foljs like Dana Shwartz and her views on She Hulk in particular somewhat offensive. She completely missed the point of Jennifer...but now shes her voice. It is what it is and it sucks for now. Things change though, the old and awesome Jennifer will come back, She Hulk/Jennifer Walters is a fighter and she sticks around.
Always liked the She Hulk. At one time I had several copies of the first ten issues, unfortunately there was a flood in the basement and I lost some issues.
Floods SUCK ! I lost my money issues of my favorite comics in a basement flood. Backed up sewer pipe so... yeah crappy ! LUCKILY my building had a bedbug scare the previous fall so I had 95% of my comics transferred from the short boxes to plastic containers... but half my DVDs (and I collected the double-disk special editions), all my school books, collectible cards, all my work electronic equipment, and my locked steel file case with those high-price comics and my whole life up ruined by sewage.
Jennifer is one of my favorite heroes. I am excited to see her join the MCU, because for comic readers she has been such an integral part of the Marvel universe for years and not having her in the movies/TV shows was a serious oversight. I would have taken a good She-Hulk movie over the Captain Marvel film (not that you can't have both, but if if Marvel wanted to showcase a strong female character, there are way more interesting choices than Carol Danvers, a character that never had a strong fan-base to begin with). But, I hope she is the classic version of the character and not the "Brute," version in the current Avengers comics. Yeah, she has the right to be as savage as her cousin, but it has always been her optimism and the fact that she embraces her powers that has made her stand out as a stellar character.
@Kamil Szczęsny Think about what you just put out in the world. All I said was that Carol isn't as popular as some other characters. I've followed Marvel comics for over 35 years, and have never heard of anyone claiming she is their favorite character, but never really disliking her either. I worked in the comics industry for 6 years, and saw her books being rebooted and cancelled rapidly. I liked her movie, and like Carol in general. But, there are other female characters who are more beloved than Carol Danvers. This is not a lie (because I never stated anything as a fact, just an opinion). I never attacked her fans, and I certainly never called anyone a loser. What in your life led you to causally insult a perfect stranger just because you somehow disagreed with their opinion about a comic book character?
"Hello? 911? Please send the police and EMS to 123 Plot Convenience Avenue, right at the corner of Obvious Conclusion Drive!! There's been a drive by exposition!!"
8:53 sadly we didn't get this with the adaptation. Her personality cements her as an unlikeable, snarky, ungrateful, entitled person. She seems to know of Bruces struggles and experiences but just throws them aside in her discussion with him about being a Hulk. She wants to have all the advantages of being a hulk without living through any hardship. They did her dirty, She-Hulk could have been so much better...
4:00 I still love that "What if Rick JAMES became the hulk." "Good lord! That Brotha's turning into some kind of huge Green-Skinned Monster-- - - AND IT'S SUPER FREAKY!"
I’ve grown up with She-Hulk. I was 13 when I bought that 1st issue from a convenience store back in 1980! I think Byrne putting her in the Fantastic Four was one of the best things that happened to her, as far as character development. Like Claremont, he’s good at writing strong women. She completely stands on her own as a character, despite her derivative origin... which I liked then and think still works today! Thanks for video! Would love a follow-up!
2:10 There is an old issue of Power Man & Iron Fist when Cage still wore his iconic yellow shirts that has him picking up an order of yellow shirts from a cleaner, and in the background of one of the panels it shows a disguised man being addressed by one of the store clerks with the line "Here are your purple pants (Dr Banner)". I forget if the clerk actually addressed the disguised figure as Doc Banner but they definitely did mention the purple pants...
Once again, I'm so happy to have the original comic, and I am glad they totally gave Jessica a totally different personality. She-hulk adores being She-Hulk. She's not tortured like David Bruce Banner is. And she really does have her own place in the universe.
I've always loved the She-Hulk and her origin story, she brings an extra sense of tragedy to Bruce, whom for one always saw the Hulk as a curse, something he inflicted upon his Cousin and also the nature of her affliction affects her. It doesn't change her like it does Bruce, she becomes empowered by his demons. Which must make it hard for him to see his cousin succeed. But at the same time, they are still family, not just her and Bruce, but her and the Hulk, she gives the Hulk more humanity than just Betty and Rick. (At the time) As for Jen herself, because of the nature of her affliction it makes her, her own character, while also asking the questions that are important, will she always remain like this, will she loose control will she-hulk 'hulk out; which later modern comics have answered. These two are such fantastic characters in terms of how they interact with one another, while also being their own entities. They are the perfect A grade example of what a spin of character could and should be, however... I feel like the Marvel cinematic universe may have tripped over themselves with the Hulk with Dr.Hulk, because again a thing that made She-hulk so great was how different she was to the Hulk himself, but now in the MCU he is just a strong and smart guy with no seeming repercussions to the character, basically meaning he is She-Hulk, so the need for a character like her, is not necessary. She-hulk won't be the same thing anymore, she'll just be a female version of Dr.Hulk, with a sex-positive outlook on her life, if Marvel event decided to go with that viewpoint of her. As such she might just come across as a sexualised version of Dr.Hulk. So the origin story might change, not because it was bad, which again, is a really dumb reason as it was a great one, but more so because it doesn't work with where the Hulk is now. Also Please can the MCU just make a Mark Ruffalo Hulk movie, the Hulk Movie Phobia they have is stupid.
Well, you asked. I always thought that the She-Hulk was a fantastic character, but her origin was, as you stated weak and derivative. One of those characters that you more or less overlook their origin and just enjoy whatever story they're in right now. And boy oh boy has she ever been in some stories. You want to talk about a strong feminine and female character you need look no further. Great thing for a character that was created just to bookmark a name and concept. I do like you in this format, by the way, the way you present volumes of facts , and delve into the psychology of the characters and situations connected to the story lines , very well done Very good video, thanks.
lol I literally just started re-reading my Savage She-Hulk books yesterday lmao. to this day she is still one of my fav marvel characters of all time and my 100% fav female character of all time.
I'm so happy to see you reading She Hulk. I've been a fan of her since the first series. She's quite possibly my favorite Marvel character behind Spidey and DD. I hate that some fans regard her as simply the "Sexy" character. She's so much more than that.
I remember when I first read She-Hulk #1 (February of 1980)(Yup, old nerd) and I loved it. Sure I rolled my eyes at the creation story, but it was only the platform to launch a great character, whose become even greater I think. I'm not worried by how they introduce She-Hulk, but more about how they share the character! As always, thank you so very much for your video.
Yasss! She Hulk love! The first comic that I ever read because my uncle was a fan and the John Byrne run is criminally underrated. I really felt like he put all of his comedic talents into it.
In regards to the upcoming She-Hulk series, I feel she'll become a legacy character. With the MCU's original 6 Avengers gone, a vacuum has been left. Iron Man and Black widow are dead, Thor's given up his throne and gone to space, Cap's an old man and given his shield to Falcon, Hulk's doesn't have a right arm anymore(figuratively) and is likely retired just like Hawkeye. If her origin stays the same, transfusion of blood from Bruce, she has potential to replace him as MCU's Hulk, like she is currently. After all, Falcon is set to be the new Captain America, once they take care of the U.S.Agent thing, as Thor: Love and Thunder is reintroducing the Jane Foster and making her the female Thor, like the comics(up until her current identity as Valkyrie).
I appreciate the thoroughness of your research and amount effort you put into these videos. I can tell you're "in deep and never getting out". I always felt She-Hulk was an interesting character and Hulk was a favorite of mine since I was a child.
Ok 1st: great intro to She-Hulk we all love. 2:Your voice overs was awesome 3: “I’m Throbbing with power” made my whole quarantine life. Keep up the good work! Do more voice overs
I like She-Hulk way more than Hulk, we've had Matt as the heroes' lawyer when he's not Daredevil for a long time, she's a great addition to this idea, and to the legal side of being a superhero.
Created by a blood donation from Bruce Banner to Jessica Walters, his relative. He's the Hulk, she becomes the She Hulk.At first Jessica could turn back from Hulking out, but soon she just stayed as the She Hulk.
In comic books NOTHING stays the same for long. Professor Hulk lasted from the early to late 90s, even though it was alluded it was not meant to be permanent. She Hulk has been Savage, Avenging, Fantastic, Sensational and everything in between.
@@robertthedevil7598 exactly, I'm just waiting for the next writer or story arc to happen before I pick up her book again. until then I'll read current footnotes and such. as I said, this was done with Red She-Hulk. & having read that series - but till then
this video is a great homage to the character. I have a much greater level of respect for her now. I mean, I never not liked her, I just see her more as a full character now and not a spin-off
"the obvious femininity" Oh gods but do I miss that so much these days... Jennifer is one of my favorite characters, but I look at what they've done to her and it just hurts.
If you give the She-Hulk a new origin independent of the Hulk, then she isn't the She-Hulk. At best she would be more like Sasquatch over in Alpha Flight.
I remember buying the She-Hulk book back when it came out. I liked that Jennifer actually liked being the She-Hulk and that she had some agency while she was all hulked out. Since I was a starving college student at the time, I couldn't continue following her along with the other books I was reading I would only catch up with her occasionally after that. Thanks for the re-intro to her and explaining her origin to those who didn't know it.
I bought this off the comic rack when I was 12. Stan's a legend, but even my 12 year old self recognized that the story and dialogue were straight out of the early 60s. Now, as an old fart., it was kind of nice to revisit it. Subscribed. Well done!
Love She-Hulk. Read a lot of She-Hulk last year. Started with her original run, then John Byrne and Dan Slotts. Have some more recent trades that I will have to read soon too. I think she's a more interesting character then the Hulk. But still the Hulk are of course kinda awesome too.
Jennifer Walters has, from day one, been a cool as hell character. So many comics treat having powers as an obligation to a higher purpose or a curse. There’s something really appealing about someone just flat out having a blast being superhuman. In that respect, she’s more of an “every day” type than Peter Parker. It’s a shame how Marvel’s been treating her recently.
Discovered your videos through the 'Power Girl - Why So Big?' episode and have been a fan ever since. Your delivery and presentation is just super-cool. Very relaxing to watch. Much respect! Glad to see you got a new mic. Cheers! :)
She-Hulk is probably one of my favorite female heroes. It's interesting how she's struggled to hold a comic of her own, but she worked so well in the Fantastic Four and Avengers. She's a smart, strong, sexy female character and she owns it. I don't really like what they are doing with her currently, but then I haven't really liked much of anything going on in comics for quite some time. Derivative is just what they were doing back then. Look at Spider-Woman, Supergirl, Batgirl, Wonder Girl. You can even throw in second generation characters of DC. Any character who follows in the footsteps of another well established character could be considered derivative. I think it's just a way to try and give the character a chance to succeed, by basing them on an all ready well established character. It doesn't always work though, you still have to have good writing to make the character interesting. Think about all the other Hulk rip offs that have come out that people have forgotten about. Anybody remember Lyra? I actually though she was pretty cool.
I always liked She-Hulk. I liked the John Byrne run and was even reading the Hulk before they cancelled it. She was dealing with the effects of Bruce being dead and her new gray form. Her strength, intelligence and wit make her a truly entertaining character capable of standing on her own.
Sasha is always entertaining and informative. I always loved the She-Hulk. She has brains, beauty and charm. She is an amazing character. It is past time for her debut in the MCU.
You know what I like about She-Hulk? So many heroes take themselves super seriously or hold the weight of the world on their shoulders. She-Hulk seems to actually enjoy her special abilities and have FUN with her heroics
This! Shulkie has been a favorite of mine since the 80s. The stories were full of humor, with her Spidey-like quips and pre-Deadpool fourth wall shtick. Her sexuality wouldn’t go over well these days, and the “smart Hulk” thing was spoiled in Endgame. But I’d still love to see the character, especially given that she’s one of the few superheroes who has an actual job!
Yay on the new mic, as someone who has had to film things with a bad mic before I know the need for a good mic. I always like led the She-hulk, though the first time I was introduced o her was the animated hulk show when I was a kid. Anytime she and banner interacted I always enjoyed it and like the idea that heroes had family that they didn’t always have to save when they saw them, but that’s me.
She hulk id derivative. No doubt. But she's a good character. Much like venom or the 29 billion other characters. While she was probably made when someone said hey we need a way to work some female sex appeal in to the hulk tv show ( something it was lacking but my mom thought the hulk was hot) she stands alone. Shes an amazing woman on top of being a super hero. She's a lawyer for f'sake at the time that was a big deal. A woman in a man's job.( 70s) while she got her powers from Bruce she has a different perspective on it. It was whoooooooo i love this. But to be fair she didn't lose her glowing green mind when she changed. It also gave banner one more thing to be emo about. And that makes him happy.
i like how she-hulk's preference for being in hulk form was cemented right from day one and only evolved into her making the choice to STAY in hulk form because it makes her feel more confident to the point that she'll even show up to court like that. shows that she was a sold character from day 1.
Great video! This makes a Great companion piece to your Spider-Woman video! I was a comic book fan growing-up in the early 1980s and I remember reading & enjoying both Spider-Woman & She-Hulk, but of the two series, I really liked Spider-Woman, but I absolutely adored the She-Hulk! Side note: Since both books were being published at the same time, I'm both surprised & disappointed that Marvel didn't have a crossover between the two books, and Marvel was the master of crossovers at that time! Anyway, I can't wait for your next video!
Fun fact: She-Hulk was originally going to get a 1990s movie with Brigitte Nielsen as the character. While the film was cancelled, all that’s left are photos of the actress.
She-Hulk came into her own in John Byrne's FF. She was ok in The Avengers ( she had a pretty funny rivalry with Hawkeye), but Byrne really let her personality flourish.
Shulkie has always been one of my top favorites. She showed that women could be smart, strong, powerful and didn't have to give up her sense of being sexy to do it. The character knew she had sex appeal and not only wasn't ashamed of it but enjoyed it. Her ability to break the 4th wall was a part of what made her fun. It created a sense that the character WANTED to interact with the reader.
Jennifer Walter's the She-hulk is my favorite comic book character, I think her original comic book series written by Lee, and Kraft are solid and underrated. My favorite runs are Byrne' s and Slot' s on the character. I feel that She-hulk is the Wonder Woman of Marvel, Captain Marvel is marvel's Batgirl, The Wasp is Marvel's Hawk Woman, and Black Widow is Marvel's Black Canary, and Scarlet Witch is Marvel's Zattanna.
I love how you describe her in the end. Your intelligent language flows so naturally because you know what you're talking about and you aren't using phrases outside your boundaries. Thank you so much for your narration thus far! - gay zach
She-Hulk came out when I was 10 years old. That Savage She-Hulk and Avengers was the first comics I got. Even though I saw the many Captain America, Spider-man cartoons and the Hulk TV Series. Became a fan of She-Hulk since.
Bravo, Sasha! This was an entertaining look back at one of the last full comic book scripts Stan Lee wrote before handing Marvel to his editors and assistants. This makes me curious about your thoughts on Sharon Ventura, the She Thing! I always found it fascinating that Ventura was uncomfortable with her conventional beauty and preferred the more monstrous rocky body of the Thing.
I LOVE your shirt! And yes, She-Hulk is solid. I love that she's her own person: i like men and they like me, I'm sexy, I'm smart, I'm green, I'm strong, and I'm a lawyer! I think we need more individuals in comics, both in body types and in attitudes.
I didn't particularly watch the animated Hulk TV show from, I think, the 90s but I happened on an episode featuring She-Hulk as Bruce Banner's lawyer and that episode stuck with me. I loved the character!
First, I recently stumbled onto your channel and wanted to let you know that you are a great presenter. I have been trying to find a decent channel that talks about comics, but the presenters from other channels have no charisma and are the stereotypical nerd. Listening to your POV has been a refreshing change of pace and you are extremely well spoken. So thank you for that! As for She-Hulk. I do love strong women and I support them in every way I can. However, I fear that She-Hulk is trapped in a difficult position where she they can't do the original story justice. For instance, I personally believe that She-Hulk should always live up to the name HULK. It's not She-Fitness model. Or She-Tall woman. It's She-HULK. But the problem with Hulk is that Jen needs to be huge and muscular. But if they were to do a live action She-Hulk, how the heck are they going to do the transformations? I think Disney is going to have a problem with a woman's muscles ripping open her clothing. Mainly because if she were to end up like the Hulk, she would be half naked and in her underwear. Which, as we've all been programmed to believe. A woman in her underwear is considered "sexy." So this is problem #1 with live action. Problem #2 is that Hollywood is afraid of casting muscular women. Of course, this can be cheated with CG, but the budget for doing CG effects is not cheap. So how are they going to show She-Hulk as a Hulk? I'm not saying she has to be massive like in the Avengers run, but she certainly has to be bigger and more muscular than a normal woman. Her guest appearances on The Incredible Hulk were probably the best cartoon rendition of her. Problem #3 Who are they going to cast to convey a convincing She-Hulk? If they're not going to do CG, they're going to need an athletic actress. Well, although people love to say Gina Carano and Ronda Rousey, they are not strong actors. Ronda being worse than Gina, but still they're both terrible choices. Casting someone like Allison Brie would be great, but then She-Hulk doesn't have the size. So I'm really skeptical that Marvel can pull off a genuine interpretations of She-Hulk without sacrificing something that makes She-Hulk who she is. They would either sacrifice her muscles. Sacrifice her ability to transform, like when she joins FF4. Or change her to such an extent that she only has a passing resemblance to the original. Okay, this post was too long. I am sorry! Thank you for the video.
I just wanted to say I came across your channel this week and really like it. I’m enjoying going back and watching your old vids. Keep up the great work. Thanks!
Of course what's really terrifying is when she transforms into a lawyer.
Now that's funny!
I want to see Daredevil and She-Hulk having a lawyer off in a tv show
I wanna see them in the next Spider-man movie. Matt for defense, Jen for Prosecution. Gives a reason for her blood transfusion: Banner turns up to give evidence/character witness for Peter, courtroom gets attacked...
@@stembuk I like this idea
Never have I known how much I needed something until someone spoke that need aloud...
Their back-and-forth courtroom drama in Charles Soule's She-Hulk (the one where Captain America was the defendant) was great.
@@Matthew.E.Kelly. That was a good one. I remember Captain America wanted Matt to be the prosecution because he knew he'd be fair.
Jobs with the highest probably of gaining superpowers: Lawyer, scientist, newspaper-reporter, Air-force test-pilot.
And CEO. Works for villains too
Alien
Being a billionaire surprisingly doesn't help much with powers, but it will introduce you to people.
Being a high school student with confidence issues.
@@mrcakeday1439 ah I'm BEYOND qualified than
I feel like She-Hulk's comic origin set her apart from all the other Gamma freaks who just happened to get pelted by Gamma rays or some such and become monsters. She got her powers out of an act of familial love, not some scientific accident or mishap.
I hope she doesn't become just another Gamma freak in the MCU.
John Byrne did a good run with She Hulk, he drew her gorgeous AF!
She Hulk : Blood is thicker especially when your relative is the Hulk.
Love Byrne's work, especially Superman
He drew her with hair that was wider than she was, and I LIVED for it.
Byrne She-Hulk = BAE!
@@Nocturne22 80s hair for woman was always huge. 99% of the girls in my 1989 junior high yearbook had big hair.
I already went on a She-Hulk tangent in another video, but I love her contrast between Hulk and herself. She's more human shaped, rather than muscles on top of muscles, yet still shredded and built. Her personality is energized, being more outgoing, still being intelligent, yet also having a temper at times. She's what essentially what bruce strived for, and making her just another "Hulk" would be rather boring... Which they did, and I hope doesn't get adapted as the main look in the MCU, because from the details I know, it's sticking close to the famous runs, like Dan Slott's.
She Hulk is one of those heroes that does stand on her own, a female version of a male counterpart, but one never intended to take over but stood on her own, and with John Byrne, really stood out.
There are standards that comics have to meet maybe that's why no visible blood. Depending on where she was hit, there could be internal bleeding. The interesting part. this initial run after it was stopped for low salles is she decided to stay as the she hulk all the time and wanted to get rid of Jen Walters and tay as the She hulk all the time.
I arguably like She-Hulk more then regular Hulk. There's something really interesting about this obvious hero looking person also just strutting around law offices all green but doing a civilian job.
She just feels like such a different character then not just the hulk but most heroes too.
Personally? Hulk reigns supreme,I've always prefered him... He's a far more layered character than She-Hulk and most characters.
Shoutout to the hitman who uses the word "dame" in 1980. Time traveller alt-universe confirmed?
the best Crooks in comics are stuck in the 40s. They became crooks because they got great depressed.
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I've always liked the She-Hulk. What I remember was that from the start Jen was more in control than Bruce (though she still had a temper), and that she had a continuing job as a lawyer. This was a sufficient differentiation of the characters for me. (I really liked the Sensational She-Hulk run, though that was a different series).
thing about she-hulk is that she's not even a full-time hero: she's a full-time lawyer and a PART-TIME hero. she's got her own shit going on and while she doesn't mind saving the day if asked to,her focus is the successful career she had built for herself long before she ever got superpowers and is unwilling to give up. it makes her different from not only the hulk,but pretty much ever other hero as well.
She Hulk is seriously underrated.
She has had some excellent storylines by David and Slott.
The name issue that Stan Lee had was pretty funny, Sasha. Thank you for telling us/ reminding us!
I really hope they don’t change her origin. She’s grown from that starting point into an awesome and unique character. Also you can’t change an origin and pretend she’s not a derivative of Bruce. She happens to be one of the best and most beloved derivative characters out there. Above X-23, Captain Marvel and maybe even Miles Morales.
Besides I won’t sleep until I see her and Matt Murdock in court together.
I legit read that as “Murderdock”🤣
I always thought her origin was clever. They had the same blood type and were related by blood so it doesn't seem like a stretch that she'd get similar powers.
The fact that she is portrayed as a developed person with her own life career and criminal enemies makes her feel less like someone who fights crime because solely her powers. She was always a crime fighter in her own way, her body just couldn't keep up with the risks involved. Her origin didn't force her into a super hero career it enabled her to dive in head first of her own accord.
"Gamma radiation's a powerful drug" - Rick James, sidekick of the Hulk. Also, I wonder if the change of her origin to remove Bruce from it is to not have to deal with Universal?
Ooool. That's an excellent question.
It's not, it's because they don't want her origin associated with a man. Just like they turnedthe original Mar Vell into a woman for the Captain Marvel movie.
*"Helluva" drug
@@ItachiUchiha-ut6xj either way she still got her power almost the same way. Instead of the Kree Psychomagnetron, it was a component of the ship that exploded.
@@ItachiUchiha-ut6xj I'm pretty sure the original Mar Vell was an alien who came to Earth as a Kree scout. Stuff happened and Carol Danvers got powers. More stuff happens as the go on to have separate adventures. Yet more stuff happens, Mar Vell dies, Carol goes by a couple of names and even works for Galactus for a while before she takes up the name. She might have given it up once but I'm not sure about that. All this to say that the movie didn't change Mar Vell, they just went with a different Captain Marvel.
Myself. I love her, one of my fave Marvel heroes...which is why i find foljs like Dana Shwartz and her views on She Hulk in particular somewhat offensive. She completely missed the point of Jennifer...but now shes her voice. It is what it is and it sucks for now. Things change though, the old and awesome Jennifer will come back, She Hulk/Jennifer Walters is a fighter and she sticks around.
I love the She Hulk, especially the Sensational She Hulk where she practices law as the She Hulk. Those stories in.themselves deserve a video.
All of a sudden I need a Hulk/Rick James crossover.
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Nothing says fleeing, blending, and life on the run like bright purple slacks😂😂
Yeah and did you notice the familial disposition toward slacks of that certain hue ?
Always liked the She Hulk. At one time I had several copies of the first ten issues, unfortunately there was a flood in the basement and I lost some issues.
Floods SUCK ! I lost my money issues of my favorite comics in a basement flood. Backed up sewer pipe so... yeah crappy ! LUCKILY my building had a bedbug scare the previous fall so I had 95% of my comics transferred from the short boxes to plastic containers... but half my DVDs (and I collected the double-disk special editions), all my school books, collectible cards, all my work electronic equipment, and my locked steel file case with those high-price comics and my whole life up ruined by sewage.
Jennifer is one of my favorite heroes. I am excited to see her join the MCU, because for comic readers she has been such an integral part of the Marvel universe for years and not having her in the movies/TV shows was a serious oversight. I would have taken a good She-Hulk movie over the Captain Marvel film (not that you can't have both, but if if Marvel wanted to showcase a strong female character, there are way more interesting choices than Carol Danvers, a character that never had a strong fan-base to begin with). But, I hope she is the classic version of the character and not the "Brute," version in the current Avengers comics. Yeah, she has the right to be as savage as her cousin, but it has always been her optimism and the fact that she embraces her powers that has made her stand out as a stellar character.
@Kamil Szczęsny Think about what you just put out in the world. All I said was that Carol isn't as popular as some other characters. I've followed Marvel comics for over 35 years, and have never heard of anyone claiming she is their favorite character, but never really disliking her either. I worked in the comics industry for 6 years, and saw her books being rebooted and cancelled rapidly. I liked her movie, and like Carol in general. But, there are other female characters who are more beloved than Carol Danvers. This is not a lie (because I never stated anything as a fact, just an opinion). I never attacked her fans, and I certainly never called anyone a loser. What in your life led you to causally insult a perfect stranger just because you somehow disagreed with their opinion about a comic book character?
"Hello? 911? Please send the police and EMS to 123 Plot Convenience Avenue, right at the corner of Obvious Conclusion Drive!! There's been a drive by exposition!!"
I like your voice-overs. They're not over-acted, and sound like how the characters would really sound. Very good!
8:53 sadly we didn't get this with the adaptation. Her personality cements her as an unlikeable, snarky, ungrateful, entitled person. She seems to know of Bruces struggles and experiences but just throws them aside in her discussion with him about being a Hulk. She wants to have all the advantages of being a hulk without living through any hardship. They did her dirty, She-Hulk could have been so much better...
That's my secret, Jenny, I'm always covered with invisible blood.
Ah yes. "Invisible blood." The hardest blood to get out. "Out, damned spot!"
Kids were reading this stuff
Props for working Shakespeare into a comic book thread! 😂
4:00 I still love that "What if Rick JAMES became the hulk."
"Good lord! That Brotha's turning into some kind of huge Green-Skinned Monster--
- - AND IT'S SUPER FREAKY!"
I didn’t really care for She-Hulks origin but the recent stories where she is a lawyer are really interesting.
I’ve grown up with She-Hulk. I was 13 when I bought that 1st issue from a convenience store back in 1980! I think Byrne putting her in the Fantastic Four was one of the best things that happened to her, as far as character development. Like Claremont, he’s good at writing strong women. She completely stands on her own as a character, despite her derivative origin... which I liked then and think still works today! Thanks for video! Would love a follow-up!
2:10 There is an old issue of Power Man & Iron Fist when Cage still wore his iconic yellow shirts that has him picking up an order of yellow shirts from a cleaner, and in the background of one of the panels it shows a disguised man being addressed by one of the store clerks with the line "Here are your purple pants (Dr Banner)". I forget if the clerk actually addressed the disguised figure as Doc Banner but they definitely did mention the purple pants...
That is AWESOME
Once again, I'm so happy to have the original comic, and I am glad they totally gave Jessica a totally different personality. She-hulk adores being She-Hulk. She's not tortured like David Bruce Banner is. And she really does have her own place in the universe.
I've always loved the She-Hulk and her origin story, she brings an extra sense of tragedy to Bruce, whom for one always saw the Hulk as a curse, something he inflicted upon his Cousin and also the nature of her affliction affects her. It doesn't change her like it does Bruce, she becomes empowered by his demons. Which must make it hard for him to see his cousin succeed. But at the same time, they are still family, not just her and Bruce, but her and the Hulk, she gives the Hulk more humanity than just Betty and Rick. (At the time)
As for Jen herself, because of the nature of her affliction it makes her, her own character, while also asking the questions that are important, will she always remain like this, will she loose control will she-hulk 'hulk out; which later modern comics have answered. These two are such fantastic characters in terms of how they interact with one another, while also being their own entities. They are the perfect A grade example of what a spin of character could and should be, however...
I feel like the Marvel cinematic universe may have tripped over themselves with the Hulk with Dr.Hulk, because again a thing that made She-hulk so great was how different she was to the Hulk himself, but now in the MCU he is just a strong and smart guy with no seeming repercussions to the character, basically meaning he is She-Hulk, so the need for a character like her, is not necessary. She-hulk won't be the same thing anymore, she'll just be a female version of Dr.Hulk, with a sex-positive outlook on her life, if Marvel event decided to go with that viewpoint of her. As such she might just come across as a sexualised version of Dr.Hulk.
So the origin story might change, not because it was bad, which again, is a really dumb reason as it was a great one, but more so because it doesn't work with where the Hulk is now. Also Please can the MCU just make a Mark Ruffalo Hulk movie, the Hulk Movie Phobia they have is stupid.
Well, you asked. I always thought that the She-Hulk was a fantastic character, but her origin was, as you stated weak and derivative. One of those characters that you more or less overlook their origin and just enjoy whatever story they're in right now. And boy oh boy has she ever been in some stories. You want to talk about a strong feminine and female character you need look no further. Great thing for a character that was created just to bookmark a name and concept. I do like you in this format, by the way, the way you present volumes of facts , and delve into the psychology of the characters and situations connected to the story lines , very well done Very good video, thanks.
I love SHe-Hulk Her origin is good just the way it is.
Jennifer's Hulk isn't mean and angry like Banners Hulk. She's almost the same personality.
@@johnbockelie3899 Except when shes a human shes more shy.
A bullet can cause a lot of internal bleeding so you can't see blood pouring out of her.
lol I literally just started re-reading my Savage She-Hulk books yesterday lmao. to this day she is still one of my fav marvel characters of all time and my 100% fav female character of all time.
I'm so happy to see you reading She Hulk. I've been a fan of her since the first series. She's quite possibly my favorite Marvel character behind Spidey and DD. I hate that some fans regard her as simply the "Sexy" character. She's so much more than that.
I remember when I first read She-Hulk #1 (February of 1980)(Yup, old nerd) and I loved it. Sure I rolled my eyes at the creation story, but it was only the platform to launch a great character, whose become even greater I think. I'm not worried by how they introduce She-Hulk, but more about how they share the character!
As always, thank you so very much for your video.
Yasss! She Hulk love! The first comic that I ever read because my uncle was a fan and the John Byrne run is criminally underrated. I really felt like he put all of his comedic talents into it.
In regards to the upcoming She-Hulk series, I feel she'll become a legacy character. With the MCU's original 6 Avengers gone, a vacuum has been left. Iron Man and Black widow are dead, Thor's given up his throne and gone to space, Cap's an old man and given his shield to Falcon, Hulk's doesn't have a right arm anymore(figuratively) and is likely retired just like Hawkeye. If her origin stays the same, transfusion of blood from Bruce, she has potential to replace him as MCU's Hulk, like she is currently. After all, Falcon is set to be the new Captain America, once they take care of the U.S.Agent thing, as Thor: Love and Thunder is reintroducing the Jane Foster and making her the female Thor, like the comics(up until her current identity as Valkyrie).
John Byrne's run on Fantastic Four is my all-time favorite run of a super hero title. So yes, I'm a She-Hulk fan.
That's what the Disney Plus "writers" forgot, good characters have "weakness'" and "imperfections"
I appreciate the thoroughness of your research and amount effort you put into these videos. I can tell you're "in deep and never getting out".
I always felt She-Hulk was an interesting character and Hulk was a favorite of mine since I was a child.
Ok 1st: great intro to She-Hulk we all love. 2:Your voice overs was awesome 3: “I’m Throbbing with power” made my whole quarantine life. Keep up the good work! Do more voice overs
I love Jen Walters. This is one of the first comics I ever bought at a garage sale, when I was 7 or so (1981ish) and I have loved her since.
Hello. This is my third video in a row of yours. I think you're my new favorite comic book recap/deep dive show!
I've been on a 'casually comics' binge for the last 2 days!
I just wanted to say congratulations. Your channel is really blowing up.
Can we have Sasha read comics out loud for all of us? I love how she voices different characters.
Cool. She-Hulk is one of my favorite female superheroes!
I like She-Hulk way more than Hulk, we've had Matt as the heroes' lawyer when he's not Daredevil for a long time, she's a great addition to this idea, and to the legal side of being a superhero.
love She-Hulk. tho I admit it's hard to get into the recent stories. I'm not big on Jen being a giant brute.
it was already done for Red She-Hulk.
Created by a blood donation from Bruce Banner to Jessica Walters, his relative. He's the Hulk, she becomes the She Hulk.At first Jessica could turn back from Hulking out, but soon she just stayed as the She Hulk.
In comic books NOTHING stays the same for long. Professor Hulk lasted from the early to late 90s, even though it was alluded it was not meant to be permanent. She Hulk has been Savage, Avenging, Fantastic, Sensational and everything in between.
@@robertthedevil7598 exactly, I'm just waiting for the next writer or story arc to happen before I pick up her book again. until then I'll read current footnotes and such.
as I said, this was done with Red She-Hulk. & having read that series - but till then
Don’t worry, they’ll switch it back at some point. Probably when they change writers.
Jen/She-Hulk is one of my favorite Marvel characters. I can't wait for the series, and I hope they do it well.
this video is a great homage to the character. I have a much greater level of respect for her now. I mean, I never not liked her, I just see her more as a full character now and not a spin-off
I'm definitely looking forward to the She-Hulk series, excited by the idea of Alison Brie playing her since she's one of my favourite actresses
wait a minute. this is news to me. Alison Brie is playing She-Hulk. That is excellent casting. I hope to god the writing can keep up with her talent.
@@chicostephenson There hasn't been any casting news yet. The internet believes it'll be Alison Brie, but Marvel's been tight lipped.
They believed it was Alison Brie because the casting call looked for an “Alison Brie type”
I’ve spent the past three days binging your videos! You’re so good ✌️
"the obvious femininity"
Oh gods but do I miss that so much these days...
Jennifer is one of my favorite characters, but I look at what they've done to her and it just hurts.
If you give the She-Hulk a new origin independent of the Hulk, then she isn't the She-Hulk. At best she would be more like Sasquatch over in Alpha Flight.
I remember buying the She-Hulk book back when it came out. I liked that Jennifer actually liked being the She-Hulk and that she had some agency while she was all hulked out. Since I was a starving college student at the time, I couldn't continue following her along with the other books I was reading I would only catch up with her occasionally after that. Thanks for the re-intro to her and explaining her origin to those who didn't know it.
I like that there's so much content being produced by this channel. It's very cool. Its awesome every time there's a new notification.
God review. I like how you're not only passionate about comics but also don't swear every other word like some online reviewers do.
Always been one of my favorite characters....or at least used to be.
“Because she lives on plot convenience drive.” Love it!!
I bought this off the comic rack when I was 12. Stan's a legend, but even my 12 year old self recognized that the story and dialogue were straight out of the early 60s. Now, as an old fart., it was kind of nice to revisit it. Subscribed. Well done!
I love She-Hulk so much, and my excitement for the upcoming show is so large. Awesome video :)
Love She-Hulk. Read a lot of She-Hulk last year. Started with her original run, then John Byrne and Dan Slotts. Have some more recent trades that I will have to read soon too. I think she's a more interesting character then the Hulk. But still the Hulk are of course kinda awesome too.
Wow. Haven't heard anybody mention Rawhead Rex in years. Bravo
Jennifer Walters has, from day one, been a cool as hell character. So many comics treat having powers as an obligation to a higher purpose or a curse. There’s something really appealing about someone just flat out having a blast being superhuman. In that respect, she’s more of an “every day” type than Peter Parker. It’s a shame how Marvel’s been treating her recently.
This has become my favorite comics channel.
Discovered your videos through the 'Power Girl - Why So Big?' episode and have been a fan ever since. Your delivery and presentation is just super-cool. Very relaxing to watch. Much respect! Glad to see you got a new mic. Cheers! :)
You should do a video on forget me not, his ability is so interesting and the psychological impact of having an ability like that
She-Hulk is probably one of my favorite female heroes. It's interesting how she's struggled to hold a comic of her own, but she worked so well in the Fantastic Four and Avengers. She's a smart, strong, sexy female character and she owns it. I don't really like what they are doing with her currently, but then I haven't really liked much of anything going on in comics for quite some time.
Derivative is just what they were doing back then. Look at Spider-Woman, Supergirl, Batgirl, Wonder Girl. You can even throw in second generation characters of DC. Any character who follows in the footsteps of another well established character could be considered derivative. I think it's just a way to try and give the character a chance to succeed, by basing them on an all ready well established character. It doesn't always work though, you still have to have good writing to make the character interesting. Think about all the other Hulk rip offs that have come out that people have forgotten about. Anybody remember Lyra? I actually though she was pretty cool.
Lyra the calmer she is the stronger she is, also the daughter of Bruce and Thundra.
I always liked She-Hulk. I liked the John Byrne run and was even reading the Hulk before they cancelled it. She was dealing with the effects of Bruce being dead and her new gray form. Her strength, intelligence and wit make her a truly entertaining character capable of standing on her own.
Sasha is always entertaining and informative. I always loved the She-Hulk. She has brains, beauty and charm. She is an amazing character. It is past time for her debut in the MCU.
Sasha's so great! I can listen to her talk about anything 🤩
You know what I like about She-Hulk? So many heroes take themselves super seriously or hold the weight of the world on their shoulders. She-Hulk seems to actually enjoy her special abilities and have FUN with her heroics
This! Shulkie has been a favorite of mine since the 80s. The stories were full of humor, with her Spidey-like quips and pre-Deadpool fourth wall shtick. Her sexuality wouldn’t go over well these days, and the “smart Hulk” thing was spoiled in Endgame. But I’d still love to see the character, especially given that she’s one of the few superheroes who has an actual job!
Yay on the new mic, as someone who has had to film things with a bad mic before I know the need for a good mic. I always like led the She-hulk, though the first time I was introduced o her was the animated hulk show when I was a kid. Anytime she and banner interacted I always enjoyed it and like the idea that heroes had family that they didn’t always have to save when they saw them, but that’s me.
She hulk id derivative. No doubt. But she's a good character. Much like venom or the 29 billion other characters. While she was probably made when someone said hey we need a way to work some female sex appeal in to the hulk tv show ( something it was lacking but my mom thought the hulk was hot) she stands alone. Shes an amazing woman on top of being a super hero. She's a lawyer for f'sake at the time that was a big deal. A woman in a man's job.( 70s) while she got her powers from Bruce she has a different perspective on it. It was whoooooooo i love this. But to be fair she didn't lose her glowing green mind when she changed. It also gave banner one more thing to be emo about. And that makes him happy.
i like how she-hulk's preference for being in hulk form was cemented right from day one and only evolved into her making the choice to STAY in hulk form because it makes her feel more confident to the point that she'll even show up to court like that. shows that she was a sold character from day 1.
Great video! This makes a Great companion piece to your Spider-Woman video! I was a comic book fan growing-up in the early 1980s and I remember reading & enjoying both Spider-Woman & She-Hulk, but of the two series, I really liked Spider-Woman, but I absolutely adored the She-Hulk! Side note: Since both books were being published at the same time, I'm both surprised & disappointed that Marvel didn't have a crossover between the two books, and Marvel was the master of crossovers at that time! Anyway, I can't wait for your next video!
I’m a big fan of John Byrne’s She hulk. I have a couple of the trades and floppies with a couple of her appearances in the FF4 series as well
Fun fact: She-Hulk was originally going to get a 1990s movie with Brigitte Nielsen as the character. While the film was cancelled, all that’s left are photos of the actress.
John Byrne FF's is far my fav, the FF looked the best under his watch.
She-Hulk came into her own in John Byrne's FF. She was ok in The Avengers ( she had a pretty funny rivalry with Hawkeye), but Byrne really let her personality flourish.
I wish she could've made it into Avengers: Earths mightiest heroes. That would probably be pretty cool.
Yeah, I said I wanted more she-hulk yesterday and my prayers were answered :)
Shulkie has always been one of my top favorites. She showed that women could be smart, strong, powerful and didn't have to give up her sense of being sexy to do it. The character knew she had sex appeal and not only wasn't ashamed of it but enjoyed it. Her ability to break the 4th wall was a part of what made her fun. It created a sense that the character WANTED to interact with the reader.
Jennifer Walter's the She-hulk is my favorite comic book character, I think her original comic book series written by Lee, and Kraft are solid and underrated. My favorite runs are Byrne' s and Slot' s on the character. I feel that She-hulk is the Wonder Woman of Marvel, Captain Marvel is marvel's Batgirl, The Wasp is Marvel's Hawk Woman, and Black Widow is Marvel's Black Canary, and Scarlet Witch is Marvel's Zattanna.
How She Hulk got her powers doesn't decrease her agency, it shows her not being as impetuous as her cousin, which then shows out in her character
I love how you describe her in the end. Your intelligent language flows so naturally because you know what you're talking about and you aren't using phrases outside your boundaries. Thank you so much for your narration thus far!
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Huge fan of the classic character. Getting the omni for sure. Great vid!
She Hulk is awesome. I really like the contrast to her cousin with her preferring to be mean, green and strong.
She-Hulk came out when I was 10 years old. That Savage She-Hulk and Avengers was the first comics I got. Even though I saw the many Captain America, Spider-man cartoons and the Hulk TV Series. Became a fan of She-Hulk since.
#love Casually Comics. We didn’t know how much we needed Sasha in our lives!!
Bravo, Sasha! This was an entertaining look back at one of the last full comic book scripts Stan Lee wrote before handing Marvel to his editors and assistants.
This makes me curious about your thoughts on Sharon Ventura, the She Thing! I always found it fascinating that Ventura was uncomfortable with her conventional beauty and preferred the more monstrous rocky body of the Thing.
I LOVE your shirt! And yes, She-Hulk is solid. I love that she's her own person: i like men and they like me, I'm sexy, I'm smart, I'm green, I'm strong, and I'm a lawyer! I think we need more individuals in comics, both in body types and in attitudes.
Dang! I love both your presentation and voice work.
Oh how about the history of Stargirl since show coming up?
The first and second episodes are already out, and I am also fairly sure that she did
not a bad idea. i'd like to hear how close the TV show got to the comics.
chicostephenson
Pretty close, actually.
I didn't particularly watch the animated Hulk TV show from, I think, the 90s but I happened on an episode featuring She-Hulk as Bruce Banner's lawyer and that episode stuck with me. I loved the character!
Another great blog! Well done!
First, I recently stumbled onto your channel and wanted to let you know that you are a great presenter. I have been trying to find a decent channel that talks about comics, but the presenters from other channels have no charisma and are the stereotypical nerd. Listening to your POV has been a refreshing change of pace and you are extremely well spoken. So thank you for that!
As for She-Hulk.
I do love strong women and I support them in every way I can. However, I fear that She-Hulk is trapped in a difficult position where she they can't do the original story justice. For instance, I personally believe that She-Hulk should always live up to the name HULK. It's not She-Fitness model. Or She-Tall woman. It's She-HULK.
But the problem with Hulk is that Jen needs to be huge and muscular. But if they were to do a live action She-Hulk, how the heck are they going to do the transformations? I think Disney is going to have a problem with a woman's muscles ripping open her clothing. Mainly because if she were to end up like the Hulk, she would be half naked and in her underwear. Which, as we've all been programmed to believe. A woman in her underwear is considered "sexy."
So this is problem #1 with live action.
Problem #2 is that Hollywood is afraid of casting muscular women. Of course, this can be cheated with CG, but the budget for doing CG effects is not cheap. So how are they going to show She-Hulk as a Hulk? I'm not saying she has to be massive like in the Avengers run, but she certainly has to be bigger and more muscular than a normal woman. Her guest appearances on The Incredible Hulk were probably the best cartoon rendition of her.
Problem #3 Who are they going to cast to convey a convincing She-Hulk?
If they're not going to do CG, they're going to need an athletic actress. Well, although people love to say Gina Carano and Ronda Rousey, they are not strong actors. Ronda being worse than Gina, but still they're both terrible choices. Casting someone like Allison Brie would be great, but then She-Hulk doesn't have the size. So I'm really skeptical that Marvel can pull off a genuine interpretations of She-Hulk without sacrificing something that makes She-Hulk who she is.
They would either sacrifice her muscles.
Sacrifice her ability to transform, like when she joins FF4.
Or change her to such an extent that she only has a passing resemblance to the original.
Okay, this post was too long. I am sorry! Thank you for the video.
I just wanted to say I came across your channel this week and really like it. I’m enjoying going back and watching your old vids. Keep up the great work. Thanks!
One can always hope the showrunners draw inspiration from Byrne’s quite characterful take on the Jade Giantess.