That awkward moment when late medieval German authorities did more to punish those abusive creeps than many modern jurisdictions do today to similar pimps and abusers.
Modern authorities focus on rehabilitation, not so much punishment. What's the quote? You can tell a lot about a society by the way it treats its criminals. Something like that. Violent/humiliating retributive justice isn't an effective deterrent anyway. Throwing rotten cabbages at criminals in the stocks, or cutting their hearts out and rubbing it in their faces as they died, had a negligible effect on crime rates. Violent crime was common during the medieval era. Youre much safer in the modern Western world than people were in the 1400's. In almost every way imaginable.
@@answerman9933 Because allegedly women were seen as second class citizens and had no rights then, and yet today’s supposedly forward thinking societies fail to protect them from the most obvious abuse
Unfortunately, as horrendous as it already is, STDs still harm babies. I knew a girl in high school in the late aughts who wore the thickest coke bottle glasses I’ve still ever seen. They were so thick and magnified it made her eyes appear smaller. Well one day in class, bc no one dared to ask, she admitted that her father caught gonorrhea while her mother was already pregnant with her. The mother had no idea & during birth gonorrhea got all in her eyes. I felt privileged she trusted us but it really pissed me off how others would treat her. It had before but knowing the truth added another layer of unfairness. She unfortunately had to live with the sins of her father literally affecting her life every single day.
Monkey pox is just syphilis. It has all the same symptoms both the hideous visuals and the internal necrotizing. It is absolutely been analyzed and found to be nearly identical uuhuuuhpuuuhuu
@brianisaac1575 Are you sure of that? Your tone makes it seem as if you may be joking... Well, I am pretty certain that quite a long time ago - say, 30 or 40 years - I heard two things (not together - I heard them in totally different times and places): (1) that it was sheep that syphilis had been traced back to; (2) that it was AIDS of which the first case in humans had been traced back to a monkey. Of course, I've no idea where I heard these things. And I'm sure these things could be researched reasonably well without my even having to leave my couch. However, I spend entirely too much time going down entirely too many rabbit holes as it is. My interest in these matters is just sufficient for me to spend 5 minutes commenting questions in which my interest is absolutely not sufficient to spend the amount of time that it would undoubtedly take to research them. So I'm taking the lazy way out. I'll check back in a bit, and maybe someone more knowledgeable or more resourceful will have posted the answers.
@@Garbeaux. if there were not any buyers then they would not be selling. There were very few jobs for women yet they were supposed to survive. If the clergy had been so Christian then they would have made sure women that had no men or family had a way to provide for themselves without having to sell their bodies.
Man life sucked back then. But if you were a single woman with few options to survive in a cruel world, life extra sucked. I really can’t fathom how men and women back then were able to get through their daily lives. I know I wouldn’t last very long.
I often question how I’m here because of the past and how generations before me had to survive but then in 500 years time people might be saying the same about this generation.
Most men and women were fine, living on their farms. I mean, there was still the threat of starvation, sickness or war, but I don't think that the average person would say that their lives sucked.
It's important to remember that these are the worst/most extreme parts of medieval life. Many similar stories could (and probably will) be recorded about the modern era. Most people lived relatively normal lives and in some instances the quality of life was arguably better than it is for many people today, especially in regards to work/life balance.
Amazing that prostitutes were “deceitful” when it was obvious what they were selling, in a time when marriages were arranged, yet wives were to “love” an unknown, often brutal spouse.
So female prostitutes were seen as incredibly sinful but men’s “sexual urges” that were the reason the prostitutes had business/purpose in the first place was completely forgiven. 🎶Tale as Old as Time…🎶
In medieval times they had this sort of “hydraulic” theory of men’s sexual desire. Prostitution was thought to be a necessity to prevent widespread sexual abuse of girls and women , and homosexual sex. Of course, prostitution does that very thing-it systematizes abuse of girls, women and young boys. Really wrong headed thinking
My heart breaks for these women. Being forced to sell yourself (kidnapped, sold by your own family, on threat of torture and death), being forced to go through the agony of abortion, being forced to continue being raped directly after almost dying, being beaten because the men who couldn't control themselves complained that the woman who was forced wasn't "lively"... Times really haven't changed in this regard. And it's infuriating that so many men still make excuses and blame us for their evil actions. Just take a look at this comment section to see this attitude. The fact that marital rape has been acknowledged and criminalized only in the past couple decades (in western countries)... we need to do much better at treating women as human beings worthy of basic decency and respect.
@crazytrain216 Where do you think your safe life comes from? Men. Men protect your life and your rights as soldiers, law enforcement etc. Even your right to vote was because Men made it so. Don't ever think women did that. They did not. Also the right to vote for men still comes withe the legal REQUIREMENT to register for selective service for the draft. Women have zero requirements to vote.
I always watch things like this and wonder why anyone would be so stupid as to treat the people who make them money as badly as they do. That couples best interest would surely have been to keep those womens conditions as good as they could, because that was who was bringing in their income. It would appear to me that the only reason they would act like this would be stupidity and greed, but I suppose there are a lot of stupid greedy people out there, no matter what period of history you find yourself living in.
They still are. Sex trafficking is a huge problem. Nothing has changed. Women are exploited, used, abused and often killed bey men for men. It is all so sad how much we are still the prey to men's lust and the victims of their violence at the same time. All our lives we have to be on the lookout for men who want us harm. Fortunately there are good men out there.
@@dingo1666 I agree with you in some aspects (third world countries women are still treated badly, certain religions still see women as second class citizens if a citizen at all, I remember last year when Afghanistan was taken over by the Taliban again and seeing videos of women crying because they were going to lose all of their rights again, sex trafficking, in Africa women's bodies being purposely deformed because rape is so prevalent, prostitutes still being treated like the scum of the earth, societal pressure to get married have kids always look beautiful and be kind, etc) but not in others- for the most part us women have it a million times better nowadays then women used to have it like we're not even in the same universe as Els, the other women who worked in that brothel or women period over the last 600+ years, we have rights our women ancestors couldn't even dream of (and women who dared to go against that in history have always been called "She Wolves" or "Whores" despite men at the time doing the same exact thing) and some bad men don't make that null and void 🤷🏻♀️ We still have issues no doubt it ain't perfect but saying nothing has changed and that we still have it as bad as our women ancestors did is disrespectful to them IMO.
found your channel about two days ago, i’ve been binge watching all of the videos now. these videos provide such detail on very basic topics. i love it. instead of just going from one main point to another it gives real experiences.
These horrific descriptions of Human ignorance, greed, depravity and violence through the ages points to the fact that Human's evolution is yet fragmentary and PROTOTYPICAL at best!
You made an interesting statement; that most of the girls were sold to brothels by their own families. In any age, among any people, a strong family is paramount. Without it----- May God help you.
It's not just strength of character, if that's the kind of strength you mean. Poverty dictated that many families were simply unable to support a, or another, daughter through adulthood without resources being spread so thin that starvation for the rest of the family was a real possibility. If a husband could not be found to take her off the family's hands, options were few. Many girls were ultimately sent by their families to convents. But I believe that typically that arrangement had to be purchased. So that option would be reserved for the upper and at least middle classes. I'm also going to take kind of a wild guess here about some percentage of these girls: I'm thinking that Christian morals being what they were, and teenage hormones being what THEY were and presumably still are, plenty of girls found themselves in trouble and then discovered too late that the man involved had no intention of following through, nor could he be forced into a shotgun wedding. Maybe the baby is miscarried, or stillborn, or aborted - or even adopted out. At that point the girl would be considered ruined - not wife material. And plenty of fathers would have no sympathy for a daughter who brought such shame on the family, etc. So selling her to a brothel in a nearby town might seem like the bed that she herself had made. Please note that these are NOT the kind of moral judgements and actions with which I agree. I'm just describing a scenario that it seems likely would have occurred.
God’s not gonna help anybody. He created the people who enslaved their own daughters. God doesnt care. We have to work out our own salvation. Gods not coming. Face it
Yes because the system they designed was for slavery and hierarchy which kept the ruling class in power and these situations were inescapable. They could do this to anybody just by deciding it and capturing a person and once it has happened their status was permanent. It's a carcass not deserving of respect because it's already defiled and justification for torture has been established amongst the dispicable. It served their own narcissistic purposes to exploit human beings in any manner they wanted and they had no issue with the insane inhumanity.
Gotta love how downplayed all the dirty things archeologists find all over. I love that you dont have any aversion to these great (and exceedingly human) pasts
It’s crazy to me how this investigation of the medieval ages feels more through and respectable than what I think I would get today provided that I found myself in this situation…🥺
In Germany prostitution is legal. That means (amongst other things) that the workers can go to the police if they are attacked. It is treated as any other assault case. The moment prostitution is legalised, the workers are far more protected and have legal rights. My opinion is it should be legalised all over the world for the sake of the workers.
@@juneroberts5305 So you are now using poor workers as an excuse for your own sin and "goodbeing"? Even a 5 yrs old could easily spot your true tendencies.
Very interesting topic. Nothing you said surprises me. And we thought it was still a man’s world today. I can’t imagine how brutal their lives must have been.
I love this channel. I love learning about this time and history. You should start another channel about colonial life in the 13 colonies- but other places too. You could call it “colonial chaos”
Very sad how people spent their short lives on this Earth. Sadder still that many continue down the same path or worse even today. May God have mercy on them all.
Another belter👌🏻 I've been subbed about a month now and I must admit, you never fail to impress, entertain and above all, educate me 🙂 So thank YOU, catch you on Friday✌🏻
What I've learned from research and many sources from around the internet is how surprisingly progressive the treatment of women was by the establishment in medieval societies. Going back as far as pre-rome, women were afforded modern rights. Whether that be possession of their children or even pregnancy leave on the odd occasion a woman was in work. Great video by the way, I'm unsure why you haven't as many subscribers as one would think you deserve. Best of luck concerning the future of your channel.
@@jigsawchan5364 We've progressed so much that we can now whine about the past as if it were present day context. The complaint is so dumb at this point. But...everyone needs a hobby :|
@@woociferaww I'm so sorry, you're right, us women should stop complaining, we have so much already... I'm so so sorry sir. 😞 a woman like me should know to be eternally grateful for whatever crumbs men give us
Why have prostitutes always been treated so very badly ? It just seems to me that the treatment is simply one more example of once again the abuse and scourage of the body because of the fear and conflict in the mind, - and the completely perplexing behavior of the human which always results from this. People sure punish the hell out of both themselves and each- other because of the 'why' of things. It's the 'mind's' reaction and response of the 'what-do-I-do' to their body's 'this-is-what-I-want' It is really both very sad and just that simple in my opinion. 'Prostitution' has always been - and it will always be. Just admit it and stop making life any harder than it 'needs'😐 to be. I swear, if I were back in school, - I would rather do a thousand-and-one papers on anything under (and including) the sun - rather than a single-one on 'why-do-people-behave-the way-they-do'.
girl what do you think a prostituted woman's job even is? does "being raped by random men" sound like nice treatment to you? their "job" has always been disrespect and torture in itself. no shit they were badly treated, it was literally their job description.
"Money is evil, give it to us!" "Let us practice evil, so that our brethren may be spared of it!" "god loves you unconditionally, unless you break these 10 random rules, in which case you will rot in hell for all of eternity" - the church
I think something is only considered a "profession" if you sell something for money. After all, the word "profession" obviously comes from the same root as "profit". So subsistence farming would not be considered a profession. So I would say trader is likely to be an older profession than farming. But prostitution is probably older.
Sadly this still happens in the world. Women are trafficked and treated just like this… as well as in countries like India they have brothels which keep the women in perpetual debt that they can never pay off. Yes there are sex workers who choose that work and who live very well off lives in the western world and who are kept safe from disease and pregnancy by access to birth control and modern medicine… but sadly this isn’t the case for many women even today.
@@lemongrabloids3103 Even in the western world, the "choice" of prostitutation and the sefety that goes with it is clearly not the majority. Ans it's way worse for these women in so many parts of the world... I offen wonder what I can actually do about it. I am privileged to never have lived that but I talked to many surviors of prositution and it's even worse when you can see the other person's emotions. I just wanted to hug them and tell them it was going to be okay. But it was not, most are traumatised for life.
Old piss is sterile, so unlike many things that wasn't really that bad to clean with it. They used to use it for a variety of reasons, and the Romans used it for washing clothes. (Its great for getting grease out.) And vinegar is a good anti-septic. So to wash your areas with it is actually not a bad idea.
I can't imagine how disgusting it must have been for them seeing as how most only washed a couple times a year if that, I don't even want to imagine the smell they must've had to endure.
Love your videos! I always wondered about the stds in the medieval ages but I could barely find any information. Could you make a video specifically about the sexually transmitted diseases in the medieval ages in different civilizations? Thank you for the valuable work!
Clergy back then completely missed the point of the original sin. It wasn't all because of Eve a woman. It is about how Adam and Eve refused to take responsibility for their disobediance and instead blamed another. So God equally punished all parties: The Snake The Devil that poessesed the Snake Eve Adam So by quickly shifting the blame on women they are repeating the same sin that got Humanity in this mess in the first place. Plus their outright refusal to condem real Mortal Sins and just picking and choosing whatever suits them.
I think something is only considered a "profession" if you sell something for money. After all, the word "profession" obviously comes from the same root as "profit". So if you hunt, fish, or forage only for yourself and your close group, without charging any money for it, then it would not be a profession. But irrespective of what was ACTUALLY the world's first profession, it is a common saying that it is prostitution. And I would say that's probably correct.
I think something is only considered a "profession" if you sell something for money. After all, the word "profession" obviously comes from the same root as "profit". So if these hunters, fishermen, farmers, tanners, and so on didn't sell their goods for profit, then they would not be considered professions. If you feel that just being a hunter is a profession, then I would say that being a wife is the same as being a prostitute. And that still makes prostitution the oldest profession.
The medieval church believed that since women were physically weaker in body than men then that meant they were also morally weaker, which meant women were more prone to being lustful if they weren’t controlled. They believed women are tempted by the devil easier and saw Eve as proof of this. It’s an odd way of thinking, but even Jesus seems to set a higher sexual moral standards on men than he does women, which the church interpreted as being because men are stronger so they are naturally expected to resist sin better. The whole women being less lustful and more pure than men didn’t actually arise until the Victorian era. Before then women were considered to be more lusty and sex-crazed than men.
@@joellaz9836 your research is on point..but from what I read, church also put hecks of rules on mediaeval sex life (check that out) and I think those men were undesired by women so as an act of vengeance they spread these foul injustices
Thank you for showing so much respect to sex workers. Park Avenue or park bench, people are people are people. Edit: I don't think it was empowering ffs. I'm just grateful that MM didn't giggle and snicker about them. He spoke about them as people deserving of dignity and respect, and I deeply appreciate that.
What? Have you actually seen the video? "Sex workers"?? Either you didn't understand anything or you think being raped on a daily basis is "empowering".
@Stravaig thank you. Certainly it was not empowering. I'm just glad he didn't giggle and snicker about their station and their reality. He treated them like people, and I deeply appreciate that.
Back in 76/77, I came across an excellent history of Halifax, NS, an all season seawater port with many brothels. One chapter focused on the subject with a focus on one establishmens 'Out-Houses'. Among the finds were many bottles, coins etc . . . and the remains of (?) new-born babes. Seems business was business in those days . . .
I remember reading about a city(?) where there was a monastery for monks, and a monastery for nuns just next to each other. And a secret corridor had been excavated between them. And under the floor of that corridor, archaeologists had found many remains of new-born babies.
If you want to be taken seriously as an educational channel (probably not your goal), then please check and cite your sources. For instance, syphilis was first recorded in 1494, and the going theory is that it actually came from the Americas . It might have been around in Europe earlier, but if so, wasn't recognised. So it certainly was not one of the most widespread diseases of the middle ages, as you claim around the 9.45 minute mark. Also, at least some of your images I recognise are not medieval, it would be nice to get sources.
Syphilis was known in Europe. Roman soldiers already suffered from a form of it. The strain from the Americas just made the European strain more virulent and nasty - therefore, more noticeable.
That awkward moment when late medieval German authorities did more to punish those abusive creeps than many modern jurisdictions do today to similar pimps and abusers.
Modern authorities focus on rehabilitation, not so much punishment. What's the quote? You can tell a lot about a society by the way it treats its criminals. Something like that. Violent/humiliating retributive justice isn't an effective deterrent anyway. Throwing rotten cabbages at criminals in the stocks, or cutting their hearts out and rubbing it in their faces as they died, had a negligible effect on crime rates. Violent crime was common during the medieval era. Youre much safer in the modern Western world than people were in the 1400's. In almost every way imaginable.
Lol so they say I bet it’s always been terrible
Why is the moment awkward?
@@answerman9933 Because allegedly women were seen as second class citizens and had no rights then, and yet today’s supposedly forward thinking societies fail to protect them from the most obvious abuse
Lol, wait until you hear about Kentler experiment in 1960's Germany...
Unfortunately, as horrendous as it already is, STDs still harm babies. I knew a girl in high school in the late aughts who wore the thickest coke bottle glasses I’ve still ever seen. They were so thick and magnified it made her eyes appear smaller. Well one day in class, bc no one dared to ask, she admitted that her father caught gonorrhea while her mother was already pregnant with her. The mother had no idea & during birth gonorrhea got all in her eyes. I felt privileged she trusted us but it really pissed me off how others would treat her. It had before but knowing the truth added another layer of unfairness. She unfortunately had to live with the sins of her father literally affecting her life every single day.
On our school, in a parallel class, there was a girl who was blind in one eye. That was because her mother had contracted rubella during pregnancy.
STDs of the eyes lolz that’s funny, she got it in her eye!!! Father story is bs.
@@WhiteSeaLeviathan You are clueless
@@KingdomDumb no I’m cluemore
no child gets to choose her PARENTS!
There was a saying about syphilis in England: One night with Venus, a lifetime with Mercury.
That a quote from “the Alienist”
Monkey pox is just syphilis. It has all the same symptoms both the hideous visuals and the internal necrotizing. It is absolutely been analyzed and found to be nearly identical uuhuuuhpuuuhuu
The very first case of a person infected with an STD was transmitted from a monkey. Oh wait...What? Wait...huh? Never mind.
Yes. The "English disease".
@brianisaac1575 Are you sure of that? Your tone makes it seem as if you may be joking...
Well, I am pretty certain that quite a long time ago - say, 30 or 40 years - I heard two things (not together - I heard them in totally different times and places): (1) that it was sheep that syphilis had been traced back to; (2) that it was AIDS of which the first case in humans had been traced back to a monkey.
Of course, I've no idea where I heard these things. And I'm sure these things could be researched reasonably well without my even having to leave my couch. However, I spend entirely too much time going down entirely too many rabbit holes as it is.
My interest in these matters is just sufficient for me to spend 5 minutes commenting questions in which my interest is absolutely not sufficient to spend the amount of time that it would undoubtedly take to research them. So I'm taking the lazy way out. I'll check back in a bit, and maybe someone more knowledgeable or more resourceful will have posted the answers.
Strange how the clergy always blamed the women not the men and I can guarantee many of the clergy were customers.
Yup
The clergy made consumption of prostitution into a competitive sport
They were equally blame though. They were up in them bawdy houses selling their jellies after all.
@@Garbeaux. if there were not any buyers then they would not be selling. There were very few jobs for women yet they were supposed to survive. If the clergy had been so Christian then they would have made sure women that had no men or family had a way to provide for themselves without having to sell their bodies.
@@Garbeaux. also did you forget the fact that most of them were sold to brothels by their families?
Man life sucked back then. But if you were a single woman with few options to survive in a cruel world, life extra sucked. I really can’t fathom how men and women back then were able to get through their daily lives. I know I wouldn’t last very long.
I’d still go back and visit if I had a Time Machine tbh jus to see what it was like
I often question how I’m here because of the past and how generations before me had to survive but then in 500 years time people might be saying the same about this generation.
To them it was just normal life.
Most men and women were fine, living on their farms. I mean, there was still the threat of starvation, sickness or war, but I don't think that the average person would say that their lives sucked.
It's important to remember that these are the worst/most extreme parts of medieval life. Many similar stories could (and probably will) be recorded about the modern era. Most people lived relatively normal lives and in some instances the quality of life was arguably better than it is for many people today, especially in regards to work/life balance.
Amazing that prostitutes were “deceitful” when it was obvious what they were selling, in a time when marriages were arranged, yet wives were to “love” an unknown, often brutal spouse.
In the name of Christ.
It’s all Fd up 🤢😔.
That’s a man’s evil not God.
everything ever happened is happened in the name of this fckng god i just hate these thiests supidity who believe in somethin like that@@rekkoha-dk1nh
I mean it's like OF meatbags.
They're abusing men's desire for female interaction.
Kinda scummy if you ask me.
Oh well
So female prostitutes were seen as incredibly sinful but men’s “sexual urges” that were the reason the prostitutes had business/purpose in the first place was completely forgiven. 🎶Tale as Old as Time…🎶
Yuppp
And nothing has changed, so very sad.
Every chick writing this same dumb comment
ah yes the ol' "boys will be boys" claus
In medieval times they had this sort of “hydraulic” theory of men’s sexual desire. Prostitution was thought to be a necessity to prevent widespread sexual abuse of girls and women , and homosexual sex. Of course, prostitution does that very thing-it systematizes abuse of girls, women and young boys. Really wrong headed thinking
The anti syphilis hammer to the groin might at least reduce the spread
🎉🎉🎉
My heart breaks for these women. Being forced to sell yourself (kidnapped, sold by your own family, on threat of torture and death), being forced to go through the agony of abortion, being forced to continue being raped directly after almost dying, being beaten because the men who couldn't control themselves complained that the woman who was forced wasn't "lively"...
Times really haven't changed in this regard. And it's infuriating that so many men still make excuses and blame us for their evil actions. Just take a look at this comment section to see this attitude. The fact that marital rape has been acknowledged and criminalized only in the past couple decades (in western countries)... we need to do much better at treating women as human beings worthy of basic decency and respect.
kek yeah instead of beeing beaten and tortured into prostitution women now have to deal with the monstrosities of mansplaining and the things alike 😂😂
Still happens around the world every single day. Men and indeed the world hasn’t changed in that regard
It still goes on today, Russian mafia kidnap women for the sex trade. Its just hidden from everyday sight.
Please don't blame All of us... there are men that truly love, adore and cherish and respect women
@crazytrain216 Where do you think your safe life comes from? Men. Men protect your life and your rights as soldiers, law enforcement etc. Even your right to vote was because Men made it so. Don't ever think women did that. They did not. Also the right to vote for men still comes withe the legal REQUIREMENT to register for selective service for the draft. Women have zero requirements to vote.
Those two had essentially enslaved those women. They deserve their punishments
I always watch things like this and wonder why anyone would be so stupid as to treat the people who make them money as badly as they do. That couples best interest would surely have been to keep those womens conditions as good as they could, because that was who was bringing in their income. It would appear to me that the only reason they would act like this would be stupidity and greed, but I suppose there are a lot of stupid greedy people out there, no matter what period of history you find yourself living in.
What a tragic story. Poor Els and other women who were so horribly abused. Informative video but a tough listen😢
They still are. Sex trafficking is a huge problem. Nothing has changed. Women are exploited, used, abused and often killed bey men for men. It is all so sad how much we are still the prey to men's lust and the victims of their violence at the same time. All our lives we have to be on the lookout for men who want us harm. Fortunately there are good men out there.
Just like the USA Today. Takes away women’s rights. 😤
@@dingo1666 I agree with you in some aspects (third world countries women are still treated badly, certain religions still see women as second class citizens if a citizen at all, I remember last year when Afghanistan was taken over by the Taliban again and seeing videos of women crying because they were going to lose all of their rights again, sex trafficking, in Africa women's bodies being purposely deformed because rape is so prevalent, prostitutes still being treated like the scum of the earth, societal pressure to get married have kids always look beautiful and be kind, etc) but not in others- for the most part us women have it a million times better nowadays then women used to have it like we're not even in the same universe as Els, the other women who worked in that brothel or women period over the last 600+ years, we have rights our women ancestors couldn't even dream of (and women who dared to go against that in history have always been called "She Wolves" or "Whores" despite men at the time doing the same exact thing) and some bad men don't make that null and void 🤷🏻♀️ We still have issues no doubt it ain't perfect but saying nothing has changed and that we still have it as bad as our women ancestors did is disrespectful to them IMO.
@@dingo1666 sex trafficking doesn’t only happen to women.
@@noblestsavage1742 Context. See video, read my reply with the video in mind.
found your channel about two days ago, i’ve been binge watching all of the videos now. these videos provide such detail on very basic topics. i love it. instead of just going from one main point to another it gives real experiences.
Same
Ditto. No idea why it popped up or how I found it, but it's the only thing I've listened to this weekend.
As usual, your presentation and dry British wit both inform and amuse us about a niche of history not usually spoken of. Thank you.
Poor Els. I can only imagine how crushed she must have been, as well as sick from the drink she had to take. May her memory be a blessing.
Antibiotics are awesome. Can’t help but think about that while listening.
Your videos just keep getting better and more polished. I'm so excited to watch your channel grow and see what other topics you're going to tackle :)
These horrific descriptions of Human ignorance, greed, depravity and violence through the ages points to the fact that Human's evolution is yet fragmentary and PROTOTYPICAL at best!
Something tells me that the way you have used the word PROTOTYPICAL points to the fact that it does not mean what you think it means.
@@JamesThompson-zk1ht A doctor I know has used the term though the spelling might be different, but not the inference.
You made an interesting statement; that most of the girls were sold to brothels by their own families. In any age, among any people, a strong family is paramount. Without it----- May God help you.
It is also easy to imagine what the future profession for the daughters of prostitutes would be.
It's not just strength of character, if that's the kind of strength you mean. Poverty dictated that many families were simply unable to support a, or another, daughter through adulthood without resources being spread so thin that starvation for the rest of the family was a real possibility.
If a husband could not be found to take her off the family's hands, options were few. Many girls were ultimately sent by their families to convents. But I believe that typically that arrangement had to be purchased. So that option would be reserved for the upper and at least middle classes.
I'm also going to take kind of a wild guess here about some percentage of these girls: I'm thinking that Christian morals being what they were, and teenage hormones being what THEY were and presumably still are, plenty of girls found themselves in trouble and then discovered too late that the man involved had no intention of following through, nor could he be forced into a shotgun wedding. Maybe the baby is miscarried, or stillborn, or aborted - or even adopted out. At that point the girl would be considered ruined - not wife material.
And plenty of fathers would have no sympathy for a daughter who brought such shame on the family, etc. So selling her to a brothel in a nearby town might seem like the bed that she herself had made. Please note that these are NOT the kind of moral judgements and actions with which I agree. I'm just describing a scenario that it seems likely would have occurred.
God’s not gonna help anybody. He created the people who enslaved their own daughters. God doesnt care. We have to work out our own salvation. Gods not coming. Face it
Yes because the system they designed was for slavery and hierarchy which kept the ruling class in power and these situations were inescapable. They could do this to anybody just by deciding it and capturing a person and once it has happened their status was permanent. It's a carcass not deserving of respect because it's already defiled and justification for torture has been established amongst the dispicable. It served their own narcissistic purposes to exploit human beings in any manner they wanted and they had no issue with the insane inhumanity.
Gotta love how downplayed all the dirty things archeologists find all over. I love that you dont have any aversion to these great (and exceedingly human) pasts
It’s crazy to me how this investigation of the medieval ages feels more through and respectable than what I think I would get today provided that I found myself in this situation…🥺
I don’t think being a sex worker has ever been a safe occupation ever/
In Germany prostitution is legal. That means (amongst other things) that the workers can go to the police if they are attacked. It is treated as any other assault case. The moment prostitution is legalised, the workers are far more protected and have legal rights. My opinion is it should be legalised all over the world for the sake of the workers.
@@juneroberts5305 So you are now using poor workers as an excuse for your own sin and "goodbeing"? Even a 5 yrs old could easily spot your true tendencies.
Sweety, its not only dangerous its extremely immoral too.
@@_Minos Troll. 🤦🏻♀️.
@@juneroberts5305 But ofcourse, whenever someone speaks truth its labeled as a troll 🙄
Another well put together history. It does really suck women have to this type of work to make ends meet. Being along time ago to now.
Oldest profession is electrician, read the bible, it starts with: AND THERE WAS LIGHT...
Love your channel, great job as always
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Bible I fictionally troubled
Amen and based. 🙏
Lol
what 💀
Sun doesn’t run on electricity dipshit, nice try tho lol
Your research if "off the hook" , I totally appreciate your effort and work!
Very interesting topic. Nothing you said surprises me. And we thought it was still a man’s world today. I can’t imagine how brutal their lives must have been.
Are you going to do a "Halloween" episode during the medieval times? Love your videos!!
Sounds like a good video
I love this channel. I love learning about this time and history. You should start another channel about colonial life in the 13 colonies- but other places too. You could call it “colonial chaos”
Sex Workers are still people - I dig that you were respectful to these poor ladies.
Says the one who calls herself FatTitsFatStacks😂😂😂😂😂
Very sad how people spent their short lives on this Earth. Sadder still that many continue down the same path or worse even today. May God have mercy on them all.
Who are you to judge..
You are not god. You don't get to judge women that were sold against their will. You are a false prophet and false prophets do not go to heaven.
Look how many subscribers you got already!!! So proud of you! I LOVE 💕 this channel!
Great video, thank you. Can you imagine how much those brothels would’ve stank. Omg 😳
Right gross wtf
WHAT!!!
A hammer to the boys does NOT work!???!!?
My doctor has been lying to me!
Great work! Really enjoying how these are put together.
Another belter👌🏻 I've been subbed about a month now and I must admit, you never fail to impress, entertain and above all, educate me 🙂 So thank YOU, catch you on Friday✌🏻
Love the music when talking about the brothels
I got scared away, having heard this song way too many times. Renaissance Festival worker.
I found it to be titillating
Amazing video, good sir. Thank you for all of the historically accurate and lesser-known content. Likes and subscribes all around!
The last part of your video was especially great, a lot of people wouldn't have pointed out that their lives mattered.
Noone should ever have to be a prostitute....and still to this day....in Europe....it's still considered a Viable career.....
I agree...I respect Sex Workers as human beings, but to sell sex is not empowering or safe.
And most continue to view it as a necessary evil that one doesn't discuss - just like our forebears.
@@sakkra93 It's not a necessary evil, it's an abomination.
@@TristanWintleSays who? Oh, the Bible? Ok then, so it's just the irrelevant opinions of random humans who lived thousands of years ago. Got it.
And it's not a viable career in this country
well done as always! thanks for all the time and effort you put in :)
I love your channel. This video is great.
9:28 great shelf pieces for the office!
Wow, what a horrible life and horrible brothel owners.
Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us!!
Excellent and well put together as always! I look forward to this every week.
What I've learned from research and many sources from around the internet is how surprisingly progressive the treatment of women was by the establishment in medieval societies. Going back as far as pre-rome, women were afforded modern rights. Whether that be possession of their children or even pregnancy leave on the odd occasion a woman was in work. Great video by the way, I'm unsure why you haven't as many subscribers as one would think you deserve. Best of luck concerning the future of your channel.
yeah, what a life, everything a gal can dream of!
Being sexually exploited is not progressive.
@@jigsawchan5364 We've progressed so much that we can now whine about the past as if it were present day context. The complaint is so dumb at this point. But...everyone needs a hobby :|
@@jigsawchan5364 😂
@@woociferaww I'm so sorry, you're right, us women should stop complaining, we have so much already... I'm so so sorry sir. 😞 a woman like me should know to be eternally grateful for whatever crumbs men give us
Thanks so much for not using the annoying, sterile AI narration relied on by so many lazy channels. So nice to actually hear inflection!
Living hell for these women, and guarantee authorities turned a blind eye and knew it, only cared about the money.
Still happens today. Oh wait... You don't care about that huh?
Could you cover some stories of medieval serial killers like Peter niers and such ?
I would recommend "Well I never" for great historical true crime stories!
Why have prostitutes always been treated so very badly ? It just seems to me that the treatment is simply one more example of once again the abuse and scourage of the body because of the fear and conflict in the mind, - and the completely perplexing behavior of the human which always results from this. People sure punish the hell out of both themselves and each- other because of the 'why' of things. It's the 'mind's' reaction and response of the 'what-do-I-do' to their body's 'this-is-what-I-want' It is really both very sad and just that simple in my opinion.
'Prostitution' has always been - and it will always be. Just admit it and stop making life any harder than it 'needs'😐 to be.
I swear, if I were back in school, - I would rather do a thousand-and-one papers on anything under (and including) the sun - rather than a single-one on 'why-do-people-behave-the
way-they-do'.
girl what do you think a prostituted woman's job even is? does "being raped by random men" sound like nice treatment to you? their "job" has always been disrespect and torture in itself. no shit they were badly treated, it was literally their job description.
The men under the covers in that one illustration were most certainly running a train under those covers.
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Absolutely fascinating. More of these videos please!
You answer the questions I always wondered about!
"Money is evil, give it to us!"
"Let us practice evil, so that our brethren may be spared of it!"
"god loves you unconditionally, unless you break these 10 random rules, in which case you will rot in hell for all of eternity"
- the church
Money houses the poor and feeds the hungry. Money itself is not evil, the lust for money is.
Hey, I think I saw my best friend's great-great-great-grandmother in there.
The problem with it is that so much of it was and reportedly is by force 😭😖
Horrifying. Why is it so often that the people who are needed the most are the ones who are the most marginalized, abused, and left to suffer and die?
"needed"😂
Never heard someone say "Is anyone in the room a hooker?"😂
@shaka994 because prostitution is abusive and cruel in it's core? Because nobody would agree to be raped 20 times a day by strangers?
@@vladaburlakova1529
It's not rape if you choose to do it with your consent
@@vladaburlakova1529 Your answer makes no sense. So society should mistreat and ostracize prostitutes because they are abused???? Lol what
As the Les Nessman character observed on the U.S. TV series, "WKRP in Cincinnati," the world's oldest profession is farming. 😄
I think something is only considered a "profession" if you sell something for money. After all, the word "profession" obviously comes from the same root as "profit". So subsistence farming would not be considered a profession.
So I would say trader is likely to be an older profession than farming. But prostitution is probably older.
You did a good job on this. Thank you.
Man i feel so bad for those women. I bet this woman's story is that of many
Thank you for making these! I enjoy watching then everyday on my way to work
Do a video on Gilles De Rais
(Also I’ll help you out with some of the research if you want it)
The album on De Rais from Cradle of Filth is amazing!! That guy was crazy!
Fantastic episode ❤
This was a difficult video to watch. We've come a long way
Sadly this still happens in the world. Women are trafficked and treated just like this… as well as in countries like India they have brothels which keep the women in perpetual debt that they can never pay off. Yes there are sex workers who choose that work and who live very well off lives in the western world and who are kept safe from disease and pregnancy by access to birth control and modern medicine… but sadly this isn’t the case for many women even today.
@@lemongrabloids3103 Even in the western world, the "choice" of prostitutation and the sefety that goes with it is clearly not the majority. Ans it's way worse for these women in so many parts of the world...
I offen wonder what I can actually do about it. I am privileged to never have lived that but I talked to many surviors of prositution and it's even worse when you can see the other person's emotions. I just wanted to hug them and tell them it was going to be okay. But it was not, most are traumatised for life.
Interesting tale and well told! Thank you.
God syphilis must've been a nightmare back then
It’s still a nightmare 😱
not with antibiotics.@@AmazingGracetoo
Great video. Informative and entertaining!
Old piss is sterile, so unlike many things that wasn't really that bad to clean with it. They used to use it for a variety of reasons, and the Romans used it for washing clothes. (Its great for getting grease out.) And vinegar is a good anti-septic. So to wash your areas with it is actually not a bad idea.
OLD piss is most certainly NOT sterile.
FRESH piss is sterile.
Best channel ever
I can't imagine how disgusting it must have been for them seeing as how most only washed a couple times a year if that, I don't even want to imagine the smell they must've had to endure.
MedievalMadness: VERY INTERESTING & INFORMATIVE video!
sick world how the hell did humanity survive into the 20th century
Our kids will ask the same frok us😅
Awesome outtro.. thumbs up...love this channell
Lionheart enslaved these women in horrid conditions. If anyone deserves eternal hellfire, it's him.
Enjoyed this very much. Thank you :)
The brothel is owned by the church, most fascinating! xD
Love your videos. There all so interesting. Keep them coming. ❤👍❤
In England syphilis was called the Spanish disease.
It is always called after the country that at that time, was most hated. So you have the French Disease, the Italian Disease, etc. 😅
Now it’s called Brexit
Love your videos! I always wondered about the stds in the medieval ages but I could barely find any information. Could you make a video specifically about the sexually transmitted diseases in the medieval ages in different civilizations? Thank you for the valuable work!
Clergy back then completely missed the point of the original sin.
It wasn't all because of Eve a woman.
It is about how Adam and Eve refused to take responsibility for their disobediance and instead blamed another. So God equally punished all parties:
The Snake
The Devil that poessesed the Snake
Eve
Adam
So by quickly shifting the blame on women they are repeating the same sin that got Humanity in this mess in the first place.
Plus their outright refusal to condem real Mortal Sins and just picking and choosing whatever suits them.
Outstanding work subscribed
I would say hunter, fisher, or forerger were the first profession
I think something is only considered a "profession" if you sell something for money. After all, the word "profession" obviously comes from the same root as "profit".
So if you hunt, fish, or forage only for yourself and your close group, without charging any money for it, then it would not be a profession.
But irrespective of what was ACTUALLY the world's first profession, it is a common saying that it is prostitution. And I would say that's probably correct.
Very interesting. Thanks for the video
Just think of the UTI’s. Omg
Your work needs way more views!
"The oldest profession"... what about the hunters, fishermen, farmers, tanners?
Yeah.. technically almost every profession has existed since the beginning of time.
people call it "the oldest profession" in order to defend the existence of an industry that profits from rape.
I think something is only considered a "profession" if you sell something for money. After all, the word "profession" obviously comes from the same root as "profit".
So if these hunters, fishermen, farmers, tanners, and so on didn't sell their goods for profit, then they would not be considered professions.
If you feel that just being a hunter is a profession, then I would say that being a wife is the same as being a prostitute. And that still makes prostitution the oldest profession.
Very informative! Thank you!
I would love a video about the Babylonia records of prostitution
My new favorite page ❤️
Page?
‘Get thee to a nunnery’
Hamlet, by Wm. Shakespeare
Could not imagine being in one of those very tragic!⁰
I just love all this horny old artwork my Victorian culture thought I shouldn't see. Thanks, keep it up!
I think I saw an ankle there.omg so sexy.👍👍👍
Love your attitude ❣️
It's a shame history books don't frequently mention the horrors the Ladies of Night had to go through...and Church, wtf was their problem with women?
Right! There is an interesting doc on amazon prime called The burning times, I highly recommend this.
@@Chloepickle15 thanks...I'll take a look soon
The medieval church believed that since women were physically weaker in body than men then that meant they were also morally weaker, which meant women were more prone to being lustful if they weren’t controlled. They believed women are tempted by the devil easier and saw Eve as proof of this.
It’s an odd way of thinking, but even Jesus seems to set a higher sexual moral standards on men than he does women, which the church interpreted as being because men are stronger so they are naturally expected to resist sin better.
The whole women being less lustful and more pure than men didn’t actually arise until the Victorian era. Before then women were considered to be more lusty and sex-crazed than men.
@@joellaz9836 your research is on point..but from what I read, church also put hecks of rules on mediaeval sex life (check that out) and I think those men were undesired by women so as an act of vengeance they spread these foul injustices
Read about the Magdalene s
Excellent video.
Thank you for showing so much respect to sex workers. Park Avenue or park bench, people are people are people.
Edit: I don't think it was empowering ffs. I'm just grateful that MM didn't giggle and snicker about them. He spoke about them as people deserving of dignity and respect, and I deeply appreciate that.
What? Have you actually seen the video? "Sex workers"?? Either you didn't understand anything or you think being raped on a daily basis is "empowering".
@@ripluigi 24/7 victim
@Stravaig sex work doesn't exist. Sexual exploitation is not a fucking job.
@Stravaig thank you. Certainly it was not empowering. I'm just glad he didn't giggle and snicker about their station and their reality. He treated them like people, and I deeply appreciate that.
@@ripluigi Errm, you do know that there are many consenting SWs, right..
This was great!
This sure triggered the “sex work is work” crowd huh?
Back in 76/77, I came across an excellent history of Halifax, NS, an all season seawater port with many brothels. One chapter focused on the subject with a focus on one establishmens 'Out-Houses'.
Among the finds were many bottles, coins etc . . . and the remains of (?) new-born babes.
Seems business was business in those days . . .
I remember reading about a city(?) where there was a monastery for monks, and a monastery for nuns just next to each other.
And a secret corridor had been excavated between them. And under the floor of that corridor, archaeologists had found many remains of new-born babies.
If you want to be taken seriously as an educational channel (probably not your goal), then please check and cite your sources. For instance, syphilis was first recorded in 1494, and the going theory is that it actually came from the Americas . It might have been around in Europe earlier, but if so, wasn't recognised. So it certainly was not one of the most widespread diseases of the middle ages, as you claim around the 9.45 minute mark. Also, at least some of your images I recognise are not medieval, it would be nice to get sources.
Syphilis was known in Europe. Roman soldiers already suffered from a form of it. The strain from the Americas just made the European strain more virulent and nasty - therefore, more noticeable.
great channel!