Rock Solid: FreeBSD 13 KDE Plasma 5 Workstation
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 ต.ค. 2024
- FreeBSD powers everything from TrueNAS appliances to Juniper routers and pfSense firewalls. So how does it work as a desktop? Installation doesn't need to be complicated, as this video shows. Try it out and comment!
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TAGS: #freebsd #kde #plasma #workstation #installation
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There are several videos on how to install Plasma on FreeBSD. Your instructions actually works. Two others out there are broken.
Good to know, thanks for watching! :)
I only use Linux in my laptop instead of FreeBSD because lack of drivers. But then, in my Dell workstation, I'm using FreeBSD for a very long time without any issues. Thanks for sharing this @Stephen and, although I didn't learned anything new from your video, it's nice to know that guys like you are happy to share BSD stuff to the community.
Fair enough! :)
I think drivers are there, but that's only part of it....display and whether BIOS or UEFI are the other half of it. I'm still trying to figure out Xorg, with UEFI and getting screen frame buffer errors when starting my desktop. This is one place where Linux shines for sure. I'll get it eventually though, it's gotten personal.
FreeBSD needs TLC from the home user. Remember when Solaris was "ALMOST" going to become a home user desktop OS with project looking glass that promised home user usability (although it did make an appearance for Linux) mainly it was making Solaris, of all OSs, usable at home for things like web, video, entertainment (sun's version of an ipod was considered at one point?). I think with the whole Longhorn/Vista thing, Sun wanted to get in on the game... since then, all we've had to go by is Homura launcher for games, Linuxulator for Steam (we want vanilla), and a very broken WINE for FreeBSD. Someone out there has the know-how to make the home desktop user happy, it's only a matter of time.
Sir, this was a very "easy-to-understand" video. You deserve more views on your channel. I'm about to watch more of your stuff. Thanks for your content, boss!
Glad it was helpful!
+1
cheers!
I just few days ago turn my interest to freeBSD, DragonFlyBSD , MidnightBSD and GhostBSD side. Thanks for Your videos ! You make clear understood explains ,how to set in right way. Thank .
Glad you like them!
Thank you for your video(s). I mostly install Linux systems and prefer KDE Plasma for my private and professional desktop installations. So it is very nice and very appreciated to learn about FreeBSD and KDE Plasma in a nutshell here - thanks again and greetings from Europe!
Thanks for sharing and watching! Greetings from USA!
Hi Stephen,
I thank you for your response. As a hobby I wrote a program to analyze and cross reference a fstab file. I was a rainy day project that has taken me about 5 years of rainy days. Sometimes more. It is writtin in C, and it is most useful in all ways to a) validate every field in the current or updated fstab (adding lines is where it comes in handy). It puts the 6 fields into columns (neatness), it validates spelling of keywords, it will advise you of duplicate entries for the same mount-point, and provides a reference such as label, device id, and/or hard disks drive id.
It covers UUID,= /DEV/xxx, lvm, etc. (C source is freely available on request)
Here is one sample line from my /etc/fstab
UUID=89019a3e-be1c-4ce6-b456-5a933f9e7e4a / btrfs defaults,noatime,ssd,space_cache=v2,discard=async 0 0 #/dev/nvme0n1p1 F36Root
If you do frequent fstab revisions as you work on your system(s) or projects, you may find the program must useful. If my private email shows, send me a note.
Nice review and recommendation. I've been using a derivative of FreeBSD - GhostBSD for ages now and also find it rock solid, it does everything my Linux systems do only faster. Now if only I could figure out how to fstab mount SMB shares properly, lol.
Noticed the same, it's like the Linux kernel "tries" to do too many things. :) Thanks for watching!
Just watched a handful of videos covering installing a flavor of unix, two were about FreeBSD … overall your video is easily the best one i’ve seen … great job! … 👍🏼👍🏼 … i’m fired up and am going to attempt my first FreeBSD system …
Great to hear!
Thank you for making this easy to follow tutorial! I am excited to test drive FreeBSD and KDE as a macOS replacement
Good luck!
Thanks for the video. Wishing you a Merry Christmas!
Thanks for watching, you too!
Thank You Stephen for this video. Would You like to create more video about other BSD systems, such as OpenBSD and Net BSD.
Now that I finally figured out my issue with VirtualBox resolutions, absolutely! :)
Very similar from the gnome install process, the only differences beeing the gnome packages and "enable_gdm" instead of "enable_sddm"
But it's nice to know that KDE will be as easy to install
Indeed!
Thank you for this video. Yesterday I so happened to play around with OpenBSD in a VM with some headaches, hiccups but overall a pleasant result. Compared to the installation process yesterday with its quirks afterwards (editing configs and so on), I think the FreeBSD install looks more straightforward to me and less of a hassle. Furthermore, I wanted to tinker around with the FreeBSD installation (incl. KDE) tonight anyway, so this is the right video to me in order to be inspired. :)
Thanks for watching and sharing - and good luck with the install! :-)
liked and subscribed! Has Wayland now got first-class citizen status? Do you recommend it for production use?
Thanks for your support! :) On Wayland - I'm finally making the transition now as I found a workaround for my global shortcuts issues on OBS Studio that is serviceable using Websockets. Every case is different, try it and see if it works for you!
There is nothing new under the sun, but this video is not for people who just is giving first steps with FreeBSD. I use FreeBSD and other flavors since 20 years ago, Linux flavors too, but there is no Linux compared with this great O.S. Congratulations from Argentina
Thanks for that!
Just got a used Thinkpad T490 and your guide got me up and running!
Thank You!
Very nice machine, congratulations on your purchase! :)
@@stephenstechtalks5377 thank you!
Hi Steven
I am a Fedora fanboy. I do watch most youtube presenters. And I must thank you for all the preparation you make to demonstrate a distribution. I much appreciated your Fedora 36 presentation for the anaconda ideas.
I have this thought, and perhaps you might comment about it.
Why do Distribution presentaters first show the completed distribution, the benefits of installing that distribution, and then, do the introduction to the ISO. Thereafter, if a watcher like me likes the distribution, I would follow the installation demonstration to the max.
My own opinion is that the review is more informative than the installation demo..
Hi Leslie,
I generally agree with your assessment. :)
Here's my take on these kinds of videos, mostly driven by viewer requests, YT metrics and my linear mind:
* Linux users sometimes distro-hop due to abundance of choice while often sticking with the same user environment (less so with FreeBSD as in the video here) which means they tend to want to see the differences in how to install a particular distribution more than a particular WM or DE they have likely already settled on
* I'm personally more interested in the little details on how a system is set up and find the distro-maker default choices fascinating conversation makers
* This currently non-monetized channel is comparatively tiny and I'm still building a reputation so that it will eventually garner a greater ROI for me to present and introduce a more holistic overview and review of a distro itself. Meanwhile, I must pick my "battles" very carefully and find gaps in knowledge sharing not already covered on the other channels. ;)
That said, you bring up some great growth strategies - cheers! :)
Спасибо! Как всегда отличное видео.
Добро пожаловать!
Thank you this one actually works. Tried a few other videos and methods however always failed at some point. Neat video tutorial
Glad it works! :)
Worked perfectly. I just had to install drm-kmod to get my onboard graphics working at a good resolution. Thanks.
Great to hear!
Very nice and pleasant review of FreeBSD on desktop, thanks. I've been using FreeBSD on servers since '96, recently installed on my Asus laptop. After some little tinkering got it working with nVidia GeForce GTX 560M quite well, except that video driver fails to suspend.
Thanks for sharing! Getting it going on a laptop is no small feat!
My problem has always been the wifi issue with laptops.
@@mcdonkeylips had the same issue. Not even recommended WiFi dongles will work, till 13.0 came and I had no probs. Before that, I used a WiFi repeater with a Ethernet port... It is always good to have one of those anyway.
Indeed, thanks for sharing!
I have successfully installed the FreeBSD 13 with Gnome on the real hardware & same 4GB of yours & i have used Auto(ZFS). Yeah it uses high memory. Will try this UFS & KDE. Thanks, Stephen
Thanks for sharing, good to know!
Thank you, great video and tutorial.
Glad you enjoyed it!
i find this video oddly charming, i don't know why
Thanks for sharing! :)
Because this BSD guy's speech is clean and thoughtful, unlike this Linux guy's: th-cam.com/video/34w7KlBAefo/w-d-xo.html
I am a Gnome-41 user in Linux, but forced to use KDE Plasma desktop in FreeBSD. It is truly visible that, Gnome project is really tied to Linux (and probably systemd) such that getting Gnome's latest releases to work well integrated in BSDs is a PITA. With FreeBSD13 + Gnome-41, No audio whatsoever in FreeBSD. But, it worked well with KDE or with bare basic setup with WM's. However, I appreciate Gnome desktop more for it's clean looks and workability than KDE's Windows clone UI.
Yeah, I also find KDE a bit too "busy" and not as clean as Gnome UI wise. Perhaps paradoxically, KDE tends to consume fewer system resources! Looks like they are trying to clean up and streamline the oob defaults on KDE, hope they succeed:
www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=KDE-More-Novice-Simplicity
FreeBsd in te Head. I use Bsd. Its amazing. Kde Plasma its Great.
Thanks for sharing! :)
Many thanks for the video! I'm just entering the bsd world, understand that this is just the basic installation...but ...is it necessary to install open_vm tools for more consistent behaviour in the vm?
Not sure, but it seems to me that it depends on the hypervisor! open_vm tools are for VMware only?
Thanks for detail tutorial! Very interesting to watch how to configure and install this OS.
Thanks, glad you liked it!
Stephen
Very nice video. What is the function of neofetch? Also your point about sudoers is one a lot of people miss.
The startx test is also invaluable.
Thanks for watching! Neofetch simply gathers information about your system's software and hardware and displays the result in the terminal. :-)
excelent!
Thank you for full installation sir
Thank you for watching!
Again another Linux user Arch without sysd. Great video but just wanted to say during any of the language or country options it's quicker just to hit the first letter on your keyboard without all of that scrolling, unless you like doing that :-)
Was scrolling for live demo purposes, but good tip! :)
This was very helpful. Thanks!
Thanks for watching!
Great video thanks for the tutorial
You bet!
Yeah, i am looking forward for freeBSD for creating user interfaces shells like PS3 PS4 PS5 or XBOX alternatives. Mine Titanic begans growing
That would be something indeed!
THANX
Welcome!
Nice video. Plasma is beauty!
Thanks for watching, and indeed it is!
FreeBSD is a great multipurpose OS, but it does have some limitations. One being it really could use a good quality wiki like the ArchWiki to help set it up and streamline how to install and setup package sets and ports. I still play around with 14.0 in a VM learning it.
The one thing I'm still learning is the Linux compatibility system and getting the right Ubuntu system loaded in. I would like to test and see if, well, FreeBSD can stream and game as well as ArchLinux can as a desktop OS. Would be nice to try.
Indeed I agree, and thanks for sharing!
Unix newbie here; I had installed FreeBSD13.2 with different hardening settings than you, having basically enabled all of them. Now, when I do startx, it is stated the connection is refused. Does this have anything to do with my system hardening? Thank you for your eloquent effort, and for any hint you might provide me in my case.
Challenging to troubleshoot over YT, but I would suggest disabling one hardening setting at a time until startx works again. Then focus on that setting and try to figure out why it blocks the connection. Good luck to you!
@@stephenstechtalks5377Did a fresh reinstall without the hardening; X worked just fine. So it is confirmed at least that one or more of the hardening options are giving X some trouble. I'll try to find out which one/ones it is/are.
Thanks for the followup!
a little easier to install than Slackware, thanks for sharing!
My pleasure!
Hey can you make a video on open box configuration with freebsd without any DE
I'll put that on my list, thanks for the suggestion!
Hello I want to use freebsd as a daily driver on my laptop, should I use zfs or ufs I saw you did ufs as you only have 4GB of ram but I have 32 so ram usage isn’t a problem. I’m seeing mixed opinions on google on which is better but can’t determine
With 32GB then ZFS is recommended, and it's the default on FreeBSD for a reason. ;) You can create system snapshots and roll back if needed - check out:
www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=bectl&sektion=8&manpath=freebsd-release-ports
Good luck!
@@stephenstechtalks5377 ok thank you very much!
I tried FreeBSD about a year ago on my thinkpad x260. My only problem was that it support any of the special function keys like volume up and down, brightness or the media keys. I've seen that you can map it out manually, but do to my lack of experience, I couldn't get it working right. I have a raspberry pi 400. I'm thinking I might piddle around a bit with running FreeBSD on it
RPi integrated into a keyboard? Sweet! WiFi is not supported I hear, but enet should be fine. :)
I really like how your video is direct and to the point. I have a couple older macbooks that I might try out as well
Thanks, and sounds like a fun project!
It's still pretty sad that after all these years. the FreeBSD community refuses to create a simple way to install a GUI in their installer. PCBSD was the best thing they had to a "workstation" edition.
Agreed, it's a shame... Their niche has pretty much been server VMs for a long time now, and TrueNAS as the only widespread bare metal deployments.
Are you not able to install a GUI without someone holding your hand all the way?
Hi Stephen, what hardware was the OS installed on?
Metal was a 2011 Apple iMac 27 - which only a tiny group of people still use and definitely not representative. Hence, this video has QEMU/KVM running FreeBSD under Arch Linux. Thanks for watching!
@@stephenstechtalks5377 Thank you! Keep up the excellent UNIX videos! They’re much appreciated! Happy New Year!
FreeBSD noob, so I followed the instructions to a T. I created 3 users (incl root) which can all login at the console prompt. After following these instructions NONE of these users can now log in at the KDE GUI. Am I missing something? I reset the passwords twice already to make sure.
Hard to tell from here, might be a group permissions issue? Try adding the users to wheel, video and operator (if you haven't already).
For some reason it doesn't work. When I try to login, it was as if KDE gave refresh (or the process kills and returns), and returns to login. I did everything step by step.
My recommendation would be to grab the error messages/log entries, a list of everything you already tried to fix the issue, and post on forums.freebsd.org/ - good luck!
*HELLO Stephen's I FIND THIS FREEBSD UNIX DISTRO INTERESTING, I HAVE A NUC-INTEL WITH TWO CORES, AND GNU/LINUX Debian 11 IS INSTALLED AND IT WORKS WELL FOR ME, WITH 4GB RAM AND 500GB STORAGE, WILL I BE ABLE TO INSTALL freeBSD ON THIS COMPUTER? THE HARDWARE IS INTEL.*
*THANK YOU FROM SANTIAGO DE CHILE LOGAN....!!!!!!*
Greetings to Chile! :)
Since you already have a working Debian 11 installed, I suggest you use the Linux tools to identify your hardware and compare the list of components in your machine with:
www.freebsd.org/releases/13.0R/hardware/
Good luck!
Help! At about 13:02 you seem to type, “:wq!” and then you seem to say, “right and click”? I hit a wall here... FYI, I’m trying to install this on an old laptop of mine and my main Windows laptops sound is not the best... I’m using 13.1 at present.********. Sorry, update, I just solved it!
I think I mumbled “write and quit!” there - thanks for sharing! :)
I am confused, I followed your recommendation step by step but I have the /etc/X11 directory totally empty. Is this normal?
It’s normal if you don’t need an custom xorg.conf to get the desktop going. :)
Would be nice to put the keys used when in visudo
Thanks for the suggestion!
More video bsd sir, viewer up!
More to come! :)
rock solid maybe, but the package manger discover which is default for kde is not working, how to make that working
KDE Discover seems to be reliant on Linux package backends. :)
The freez freebsd after install virtualbox guest-ose-additions please help
Sorry to hear that - this video runs FreeBSD in an Arch Linux host and KVM. Virtualbox uses a non-free BIOS in their hypervisor, and I try to stick with free OSS whenever possible.
Can we install it on THINKPAD W540 (Core i7 4th Gen, 2 GB NVIDIA Quadro K1100M Graphics Card) with KDE ?
Somebody who has that particular model may be able to answer. :)
Dear i have some issues in freebsd 13.1 while installing xorg
Xorg relies on your hardware to function, and is tough to troubleshoot over the internet. :/ Thanks for watching!
the freez so in qemu/kvm virt manager so bug in FreeBSD 13
Good to know!
Well, this seems to be a bit more involved than say kubuntu.
Server focus vs desktop! ;)
I used to use KDE on FreeBSD until I realised it was deprecated.
Thanks for sharing! Python 2.7 is EOL as a dependancy for kde-pim hence the warning but the maintainers apparently will fix it. :)
@@stephenstechtalks5377 Yeah a lot of the ports depend on python 2.7 and they all seem to be marked as deprecated.
My FreeBSD shows it is only updates at p1 and not p4.
It's been a year, so things might have changed... :)
The install is way above my simple brain and takes to long. Peppermint took less than 3 minutes to install. Was nice to watch though how a expert does it;)
Thanks for sitting through the video! Yes the Linux kernel in general is much more hardware friendly out of the box than any of the BSDs imho…
@@stephenstechtalks5377 To avoid that I always use older hardware with Linux. Got me a refurbished Dell Optiplex 5050 which works very well with Linux.
you can do this install.just pause the video before entering the commands
My freebsd have sddm not working
Please help
Hi, there could be many reasons SDDM isn't starting. My suggestion is to find someone more local/hands-on to help as troubleshooting over YT is next to impossible. Good luck! :)
im logged on root and i cant edit /etc/fstab :(
What's the error?
@@stephenstechtalks5377 Ok i somehow managed to edit it. Now i have problem with saving changes in wheel group after visudo command.
# gets removed but it looks like it is not saved. Any special key combinations or commands i need? Im logged as root.
Really hard to tell without being physically present. :) I found the following reference useful for key combinations:
hea-www.harvard.edu/~fine/Tech/vi.html
Good luck!
After reboot no effect. Just a console as it was...(
FreeBSD doesn't have *nearly* the hardware compatibility list of Windows or Linux - recommend to always try it on a virtual machine first. :)
Need compiz 3d
ok
What's up with that my DHCP doesn't work I've been trying to figure out how to fix it
The install instance in this video was using DHCP by default - and at least during the recording session it was working with the private /27 network I have set up for this channel. So it could be many things, and it's unfortunately very difficult to troubleshoot over YT. ;)
packets download very slowly, I have 600mib and the download speed is below 1mib?
Could be a local (to you) mirror is down?
forums.freebsd.org/threads/how-to-change-mirror-in-pkg.79991/