We traded our 2021 Yamaha MT09 sp for a Tracer 9 GT | Should you?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 ก.พ. 2022
- Gone is the MT-09 SP and in it's stead sits the Tracer. A 9 for a 9. But, one has to wonder. In all it's capability, did Yamaha hide a MT-09 SP in the Tracer 9 GT
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As you get older that "sidestep" is the common "upgrade" for most. You seek that comfort and windscreen.
Lol I'm 30 and I'm totally over it. Give me something comfortable and practical. I want a sport suv of a motorcycle.
Chase, you need to do a long haul journey, like 300-500miles! Take someone with you, with two bikes; the tracer and a sportier bike, compare the comfort, practicality etc. Make it a weekend ride. You could include carrying camping equipment and going off-road to find your camping spot in the mountains.
Alex, I can ride my 2021 SP for 8 hours straight, and feel just fine.
Depends on what journey you are going for, if you take a pillion Tracer 9 GT will always be 10 times better, but if you go alone MT-09 will be better i think
Dude, I have that SP, and I have the SW Motech semi hard side cases, a Puig touring windscreen, Yamaha Heated Grips, Handguards, and Radiator Guard. I have a Yoshimura AT2 exhaust on pre-order. I would never trade my SP for a Tracer 9!
Hi from Australia. I sold my 2017 MT09 Tracer and bought a Tracer 9GT in June 2021. Night a day difference from the old model. It eats up the miles and twisty roads, and is the complete package for me.
Watching these videos helped me make my choice for my next bike, Tracer 9gt. Thanks Chase
Super happy to finally get some in depth coverage of tracer!
I always love the slow mo shots
I'm excited! I have a 2021 MT09 SP just like the one your giving back. I'm anxious to see this other bike. And I'm with you. The 2021 MT09 SP is perfect!!...!! ..!!.....well....except for the factory front turn signal thing...
I bought a brand new FJ09 in 2015 and still love it. Put a full Akropovic exhaust & power commander on it & called it a day.
OC. Might be interesting to see an exhaust and ECU tune. I love my 2021 mt 09. Not sure I would trade for the tracer, but still interested in you hitting your mountain twisties with it.
Rode three years on the father (FJ-09) and enjoyed every minute with this CP3 motorization! This Tracer, as an evolution, should be an even better horse. Now riding an XT-1200 es, as I wanted to get dirtier. I’ve got plenty and ready for so much more! Yamaha delivers.
I am so stoked right now. I had a 2020 MT 09 last year and had the '21 SP on order. It had delay after delay, finally after 6 months dealer told me it wasn't showing up,(June of last year) I couldn't wait anymore and traded the MT for a BMW F900R.. don't get me wrong it's a nice bike, but that engine was lacking compared to the sweetness of the CP3. Last night I found a 2022 SP 2 hours from my home for MSRP., deposit made, Bye bye BMW, going to pick up that beautiful 2022 SP tomorrow morning!
I agree. Tested the tracer gt, F900 and 09SP and one dealer had one SP in stock and went immediately.
And I also own an 2019 S1000RR, so I really like same details of the bmw. But the engine and lightweight of the SP is very much alike the S1000RR but for city riding and having fun at the same time
OC: hell nah. I want fun and wheelies, not practicality. I’ve had two sport touring bikes and don’t want to go back anytime soon.
OC: I’ve been eyeing this thing for a year and I can’t shake the idea that the Tracer 9 could be the ultimate finisher bike. Pop those bags off and hit some twisties. Leave them on and go grocery shopping all week long. i gotta know, could this be the absolute do-it-all bike without going full adv?
MT09SP all day everyday and twice on a Sunday
I have the exact same bike , i had the engine bars , spotlights and belly pan fitted to mine , i have also got the heated comfort seat as i live in the UK and it is not very warm most of the time , my only issue was the screen so i have bought the MRA Vario screen (smoked not clear) and it has made a difference, i love this bike it is comfortable and has more than enough power for the road , i have also just had a recall letter off Yamaha regarding a possible issue with the throttle grip tube which may cause the throttle grip to catch when operated , your bike may have the same issue, i have booked mine in to the dealer with no problem , other than this i cant find fault , great value for money bike and a great mile muncher , enjoy .
Do a real comparison between the SP and GT in terms of comfort, handling, performance etc. I am considering both but undecided? Which is better and why and can you ride the SP long distance?
Can we get a comparison to the MT10 that you have? I know we did the MT09 SP already, but I'm curious about how it compares to your touring kitted MT10. Would also love a comparison to a street focused ADV bike.
OC: I was debating a MT09 SP and landed on a used Ducati at the same price. I'd probably keep the MT09 SP if I didn't have other bikes, but the Tracer just seems comfier
As for ideas for videos, as a future Tracer 9 GT owner, I'd like to know how much you can fit in those saddle bags. Also I hear the dash is nearly unreadable in sunlight, is this true for you guys?
I bought my 2016 FJ-09 because of your first ride video (among other things). I have never ridden an FZ09. My only complaint about the Tracer is that is limited to 115mph and since everyone I used to ride with had rockets, I was always 5min late. Having that said, I LOVED IT! It is the perfect combination of excitement and comfort!
Speed limit is easily removed with a tune.
Vcyclenut has the answer to your issues. 👍
@@okie-rider yes. I sold it though
@@imso_tavo sold mine too, think I got it up to 125 mph on a bonsai run. She was a bit wobbly when you got over 110
@@okie-rider Agreed on being wobbly. I removed the handguard color matching piece and it made it better but def not a bike to go hauling all the time!
OC: I have been in the mood to side step from a Monster 1200s to a Multistrada 1200s. I want the extra leg room and windscreen and my gal wants a bigger seat and hard case to rest her back against. I'd love to have both, but the monthly insurance bill is getting a bit out of hand.
Will there also be a comparison with the upcoming XSR 900?
OC: *Idea* 2-up overnight trip. I know, perhaps this should be for your new channel... I'll be watching!
Finally more Tracer Content !!
I just purchased a tracer 9. I'm not as young as I used to be I used to have a GSXR 1000 yes a great bike but too many cramps. I plan on doing cross country journeys with this tracer the upright seating position the heated grips and the built-in up shifter made my decision easy to buy this bike. Oh I forgot the cruise control. Very nimble bike. I love it plan on keeping it for a long time.
Saddle sore 1k, to a camp ground. Find some gravel road to a hidden lake for some fishing. I'm trying to decide between a versys 1k and a tracer 9, and those are the things I want to do with it.
OC: I would absolutely go for the Tracer. Perhaps it's because I'm in my 40s, and also already own an SV650X, so I have the naked bike thing covered. It would be really nice to have an advanced touring bike - this would be an awesome one to add to my garage!
Can’t seem to find a windshield worthy of the tracer 9, I’m 6’0 and the stock windshield buffets a lot.
OC: I would definitely do the side grade. I need the utilitarian benefits of the tracer 9.
OC: Depends on the application. If you already have a more sporty profile motorcycle then the Tracer could be your long haul bike and you don't have to go full Dad Jeans with a GOLDWING lol
Do an over night camping trip to Deals Gap and the cherahola skyway and see how it handles the overnight experience.
I like the recent trend in adventure and GT (mild touring) bikes. They aren't race replicas, that are lethal to redline on the street, or cruisers that have little concern for performance. They are motorcycles designed to actually ride in a spirited manner.
I’m facing this exact dilemma right now. Local deal has me thinking new MT09, but I don’t see myself doing longer trips on it. But do I travel to a destination for touring and rent a bike, keeping the majority of my miles on an around town mt09?
32yo here ! Drove the 09sp, loved it was about to buy one, then my dealer got the t9gt to test drive ! Got the bike, drove 2 minutes and i was thinking to myself " what a joy to ride this bike, fells like home" .. Im about the pick one for myself. So T9 for me 👌
Can you go somewhere far on a trip on it (100-300 miles)? To test out how it is in terms of long-haul abilities....
Please make some touring content. Do a weekend trip with city/freeway/mountain all included. 😁
What camera are you vlogging on? The stabilisation is jenky as.
Any updates on MT09 SP vs Tracer 9 GT comparison?
OC : MT-09SP 😊 - can you do a 3-4 hour ride with 2 persons on the GT ?
question could you do a ride review on the 2022 xsr700
I weigh 65kg. Can you guide me to install compression and rebound of Ohlins 535 on MT-09 ? Please and thank you!
I would definitely take that bad boy (side-grade) on a two day camping trip on the parkway.
What's up with the mt09 indicator 😂
Do u guys think it’s possible to swap the headlight from the mt-09 onto the tracer 9GT?
I had a XSR900 but wanted to do more long distance rides. My research narrowed it down to the Tracer 9 GT or the Triumph Tiger 900 gt pro. After sitting on both (winter in Michigan can't test ride) I opted for the Triumph, supposed to arrive any day. Hope I made the right choice.
How do you like the triumph?
Can’t wait to see mods planned, get the heated seat😬 plans for exhaust, please skip the Akra, too quiet
I would love to be able to share a picture of my 19 Tracer.
Its far from looking like a touring bike.
I love riding hard and aggressive look, but Im a tall rider and I hate how small the MT09 looks. Makes me look like a giant on it.
So I went for the tracer and alwasy drive in 1 TCS A MODE and I did a couple of cosmetical changes, fender eliminator, integrated taillight, no mirros, small puig sport black windscreen, full titanium akrapovic system planing to do DynoJet ecuflash but just for speed limiter. I enjoy the power and I love being able to enjoy how huge the bike is. Pictures of me on it looks great.
OC: I would definitely sidestep to the Tracer 9 GT. The tank capacity, electric suspension, fairings and storage make it an easy choice. I can say I’m not really a fan of the dash setup. But I think the dash will become an afterthought. Especially when you’re crushing miles, shredding the twisties and cracking mega dank whoolies on the GT.
I literally switched from a 2018 MT09 to the 2021 Tracer 9 GT, you would adjust to the dash, the dash and entire bike looks better in person than pictures. The bike also handles like a dream, did 2,000km first 2weeks I picked her up
mega dank nooners?
@@walkerd0156 You can easily wheelie The tracer, just put it in A mode and put TCS off.
OC - Yes! And take it for a long moto camping trip for test/content.
Can you do video of the headlight or driving g light. Not sure which light is driving g or aux light. Most confusing point for me is sometimes I see the small right hand right hand light or times I see them both on. Can you flip a switch and have them both on at times???
Simply put, one is the regular light and the other is the high beam light. Chase is switching on the high which shows them both as on.
What is the price of the Tracer compared to the MT SP?
Having had the original MT09, XSR900 and a Tracer GT, my body doesn't like the upright ergonomics. So my vote goes to MT09SP...
I’ve got a Tracer as well and love it
I've been riding T9GT for a year ,good bike.
I would make that trade in a heartbeat. But I’m getting older and want to carry stuff more than I want to ride on one wheel.
I think it's finally the time for you to make your comparison video between new gen MT09SP and old gen MT10.
Lots of people are interested in this.
We put that video out yesterday!
@@chaseontwowheels i just saw and watched it now. 😀
Pulling back my comment. 😀👍
Side grade 100%. I’m 54 and Need the creature comfort’s of the Tracer. $15k though……damn.
I've been wanting a tracer 9 but ended up going with the versys 1000 because of the cheaper price. Would be interesting to see a comparison video.
Where are you at? Here the Tracer 9 GT is $14,999 and the Versys 1000 is $18,399.
@@CraigSmith568 I'm in california. I picked up a used 2016 versys 1000 for $7200. Most of the tracers were selling for more
@@7fold4ever OK, I thought you were talking new prices. The Versys really took a huge jump a few years ago when they re-did it.
I don’t know man it’s hard to give up that lift control. I would stick with the MT-09. I was thinking of getting a 2022 MT-09. But know I’m adding the Tracer in the mix. So I’m excited to see what you think of the bike, and would you switch them out! Thanks.
Yeah, that lift control is something I will be looking at on any bikes after MT09SP.
My cousin got this tracer a year ago. He has done more than 30.000 Kms in it and he says it is a phenomenal motorcycle
Yep I would definitely have the tracer over the mt09 but I do not like the dash on the tracer which is a big thing for me
Hooligan stuff. Its capable. Im waiting for a tracer9 to come on TH-cam channels. Its a great bike bro.
I was torn between Tracer and XSR900, the hooligan in me chose the XSR lol. It's just such a sexy bike and a blast to ride, sport tourers are just fugly to me but I'm sure at some point I'll get one as a 2nd bike to do road trips comfortably.
Xsr is already a comfortable bike right?
OC I'm still saying the xsr is the best CP3 bike Yamaha puts out. Especially with the new IMU and cruise control.
OC: NOPE. The MT09 SP is my next bike. No Way I'm taking the Tracer over the MT09 SP. Video idea would be "A Day in the Life" using the Tracer 9 for commuting, running to the market and any other daily chores one may have to do.
Longer miles for sure, I was looking at the GT but it was just a little too tall. I want this bike but I can't touch the ground. You guys have advice for a shorty who tiptoes a FZ07?
Some cruiser... Yamaha Bolt maybe. Indian Scout. Kawasaki Vulcan...
Never cared about woolies, am looking for next motorcycle. 🤔
Why didn't you say anything about the wind screen? The buffeting that it creates make you stop and reap it apart. The only thing better on the Tracer is the seat if you compare it with the MT and consider that they are the same class.
Seat is a better on the MT-09 2016 mod compare to Tracer 900.
I would like to see you guys do a IRON BUTT with the Tracer 9 GT
Road trip time!
I think the Tracer 9 GT is the perfect sport touring bike. But I have the 21’ MT-09 and it’s perfect for me so I will not be sidegrading. At least anytime soon.
OC. Want everything tracer has to offer except I don’t want that dash looking at me like that.
I have a 2017 FJ-09 and I've done lots of 600+ mile days (I've even had a 1,000 mile day), so to me the obvious content request is how does it do with BIG miles. I'm not saying you need to go that far in a day, I know touring isn't you thong, but maybe do 300 miles and an overnighter. Chase camping!?!?
Tracer 9 going to be interesting
Absolutely no way would i trade my MT09 for the Tracer no matter how much sense it makes for a old git like me, finally back on a naked bike and love it.
I'm looking at Tracer 9 GT v Suzuki GSX-S1000GT+ for a sport/tour ride. What you think?
That new Suzuki looks very nice. Coming from a 2020 tracer owner.
I’ve just swapped in my MT10 sp today for this bike
OC: Convert it to a naked bike
you have no idea how torn i was between these two bikes. I ended up going with the 2022 mt09 sp because people were saying the tracer felt a bit more sluggish with the extra weight. did you notice this difference when you drove it?
The MT is waaaaay better! I wanted the Tracer and after testing both side by side.... I own an Mt09 2021.
Does the tracer have lower foot pegs or are they about the same? Curious if the tracer is more comfortable? Thanks
@@snakeoil2182 it's the same frame, so they should be the same. There are 2 positions to the front pegs at the MT.
I will probably sell my 21 MT09 for a Tracer 9 eventually, I just can’t stomach the extra $5000 USD yet.
Yeah thats a BIG downside that im shocked they didnt mention... that extra 5k will practically get you into a second bike, be it a super moto or lazy boy on two wheels. I have a heavily modified 2020 GooGT and it is pretty well rounded single bike... BUT its not perfect. After only 2500 miles I'm thinking i'm gonna sell it and by a fun hooligan bike and a cheap cruiser for probably the same overall spend.
@@CPLBSS88 ended up test riding a Tracer 9. Horrible seat, horrible cruise control, horrible windscreen, ended up just splurging and getting a Multistrada V4S which was nearly perfect off the showroom floor (except the fact it gets horrible gas mileage but well worth it!)
When i went shopping for my first new bike I wanted an MT-09SP, but the sales guy said it was to much bike for me. So he sold me the Tracer 9 GT because it had the heart of the MT-09 but more utility that I wanted.
MT-09SP too much bike? No, sure with previous MT09's or FZ's that has no electronics. I just upgraded from a clapped out 250 1 cylinder banger to the MT09 SP and it's a very civilized bike and quite safe with the electronics. Crank open that throttle and you better be hanging on but once again electronic modes to tame it as much as you want.
I have the Tracer9gt and while I do like it I am bummed it has to weigh 70 pounnds more than the base mt09 (if the specs I saw are accurate) okay some of that is extra fuel but still seriously? 417 vs 485 and that is without sidecases btw lest you thought that explained some of it....I mean I get the fairing pieces and windscreen add to weight but that cant be huge right? My guess is a lot is in the beefed up subframe optimized for two up touring ...which I dont do so that annoys me to carry around who knows how much extra weight I dont want at all...,,,what would the 9gt weigh if it had the MT09 subframe??. OR alternately? What IF you transplanted the tank and fairing type pieces from the Trace to the MT09? Buy a rear ended or side crunched Tracer cheap for donor parts (cause there is NO WAY it would be at all affordable to source all those peices from Yamaha parts counter no way Jose!
Alternatedly damn I wish an aftermarket company would make a decent fairing windscreen kit for the MT09 but I find nothing but little accent screens available which surprises me as the MT09 is so much cheaper that IF there were a good aftermarket option I think a bunch of folks would elect to go that route rather than shelling out 15500 to 18k out the door for a T9gt...I had to shop like mad just to find one in southern california for "only" $16,200 out the door (choked on that deal but had no choice as there were none used available anywhere near me) ...Sure it is a fun pig but a pig it is none the less....not as porky though as a Ninja 1000sx or Kawi Versys 1000 or even Suzuki GSX1000 but still pretty porky
tracer 9 has a gentle fueling compared to mt09 and also it can fit people 6 ' above
Compare the tracer 9gt to your “dad bike!”
…That’s my conundrum
The Tracer 9 is sweet. Although it is a nice bike I would go with the MT09.
Pack stuff and go somewhere!...👋😎👍
OC: for sure want the whoolies
Challenge for the GT and the rider, how far does it real world get on a tank? Highway will do. Maybe a hundred mile away burger. Can it get its rider there and back on one tank without physically destroying them?
OC: being that I’m now more interested in weekend road trips than whoolies, I’d go T9 over MT09. Even if the T9 is a portly.
Just bought the SP, not trading. I want the woolies
I changed my 9gt for a 1250gs te, best thing i ever did, and only lost £800 quid on the Yam
OC For me personally I'd take the "hooligan bike" all day, I got a Harley if I want to crush some miles....best of both worlds!!!
As a 2020 Tracer 900GT owner, and someone who has spent some time on the machine, the little extra weight became moot after I fixed the suspension. The bike is a weapon in the twisties, really surprised me actually.
You and Bo camping trip tracer 9 and mt10
I'y never trade my Mt09sp for and bike mate :D
Take a trip on the GT
OC: MT09 turn signal is somehow bent down! Still love better the mt09 over the traver... maybe in 10 years I'd want the better comfort 😅
They pop out easily. Pain in the ass to put back in though (I own a 21 MT09)
No brainer for an even swap!
Road Trip review, maybe a little camping. If you don't have the time, i can tackle this review for you. Let me know. :)
Hey did you drop the mt09 because of the bent indicator?