@@nfareviewdid you get a good deal on it? I bought my Cali T cash from Ferrari of Naples like 3 months ago and I’m already looking at 488’s (preferably spider)
@@andrewfakelove3789 yeah mine was a cash deal too which helps negotiations and speeds things up. I got a very good deal. Pretty much anywhere winter/snow is starting would be a good start. Sales are slow and they are willing to move units.
Still an awesome car. Your original series bringing the factory 488 back to the UK is still a real highlight of the channel for me, been back to it several times!
I love my ‘17 488 spider. I purchased it in 2021 with 6000 miles on it and now have 12000. Have continued to carry the power 15 warranty after the first two yr certification, and plan to continue to do so as my dealer is 140 miles away. Only issue has been a dead battery, the shifts, the sounds, the feel of the machine on the road is intoxicating. I have a ‘17 Porsche 911 4S, and a 2021 GT 500 in the garage as well. My drive choice is always the Ferrari over those other fine cars. There’s just something emotionally satisfying with the 488, the Porsche is too well behaved and muted and the GT 500 too raw for my tastes. Of the three the 488 gets the most conversation followed by the GT, kids and women especially notice, especially when they see a woman getting out of the car.
@@JohnFromAccounting In the US people who don't know a crankshaft from a camshaft are buying 458s because someone told them they will go up in value, not because they love the car. I bought a 488 in April and am in love with it.
A lot of people who comment the 458 is better have never been in, let alone, driven a 488 or either. The 488 is just better all round. Actually sounds better also, the 458 is just a bark noise, and actually isn't great to drive with. The 488 is a mega car!
@@aeromotive2 458 is the car to get. Last of the pininfarina, NA mid engine V8, more visceral. Its not all about acceleration when the 488 sounds like a vacuum compared to the 458
@@Jkhpjk 488 with novitec sounds as good or better than a stock 458 and the 488 is nicer in every other way. "last of the pininfarina" doesn't really mean anything in terms of drive quality or things that matter to drivers. 488 also looks way sharper.
@tempesta1229 I'm sure we're talking about stock vs stock. Many cars including the 488 can be made to sound "better" but in general i think the majority of people prefer the sound of a mid engine NA V8 over the tt v8. And we were talking in the context of values when I mentioned last of the pininfarina.
Unlike many who comment here I have been privileged to own a 360/430/488 spider typically for 3 years, have tracked each one as well as epic longer trips to Le Mans etc Each in it’s time has been the best sports car I’ve ever owned utterly amazing Each is a better car in every way than it’s predecessor I decided on a 488 as I thought it looked more modern and timeless and it’s handling / performance / sound is incredible. Service costs have been nil and insurance sensible I think the ‘fashionable’ comments about noise trotted out usually by those who have never owned one are ridiculous The 488 is wonderful BobH
The 458 is the one imo. The last naturally aspirated V8 supercar Ferrari. They'll go up in a few years, mark my words. I do think the standard 488 (not pista) was underappreciated however
as long as the 458 is still hot(which will be always) the 488 will, imo, always benefit from that just because of how similar the cars are; and the 488 is bulletproof
458: I have a NA V8 but I don’t want to drive it to keep its value. 488: I don’t care, the drive is so good and I have an aftermarket exhaust. Want noise? Buy a 355. Want performance? Buy a 488
The Ferrari 458 is an icon and an amazing super car ! However, for just another $50K you can get a Ferrari 488 with its vastly superior performance, huge low end torque, incredible LaFerrari inspired modern design and advanced tech ! Many even like the deeper varied sound of the twin turbo V8 especially with open valves or aftermarket exhaust. Most well known experienced exotic car reviewers have determined that the 488 is the better Ferrari. Get either one and you will be turning heads and smiling every mile you drive. Pony up another $250K and you can get the incredible new 296 GTB with its classic great looks and mind blowing performance. Ferrari keeps evolving and getting better !
I totally agree with you Sam. Last year I went shopping to add either a 458 or 488 to my garage, I really didn't care which. The internet was telling me 458. But after driving both several times I just couldn't understand it, the drive of the 488 was just sooo much better, faster, and had a far more modern feel, and sounded great too. I took my own council and bought a 488GTB, and it ain't going nowhere, I love it, it's a fantastic supercar, and better than most new offerings.
side slip 7 doesn't work on a lot of Pista's I see being shunted. I do like the looks of the 488 and the interior looks like it will age very well. In the states the 488 are between $225 and $300k USD. Still very expensive. So many options in that price range.
Chris Harris also said he hates suvs and everyone should buy a fast estate whilst daily driving a G wagon. You can’t take everything a journalist says as gospel
Chris Harris also said he hates SUVs and everyone should have a fast estate whilst daily driving a G Wagon. You shouldn’t take everything a journalist says as gospel
@@thedownshiftchannel I suspect 75% of people with SUVs would be just fine with an estate, so he's on to something. I live in the US and see how unused most SUVs are.
I fell in love with the twin Turbo V8 when I heard it pass by. Then I understand how sick the tone of the engine sounds, it didn’t matter how loud it was. A Novitec exhaust would perfect it tho.
The 488 have grown on me in such a positive way. I love that car and if I had the money I would choose that over the 458 any given day and put an exhaust on it for more noise. It's a stunning car to look at aswell!
I've had my 488 for over two years now and absolutely love it! Can't see me changing it, where else can you go without spending 80k more. Great video, trust sam and buy one if you have the budget.
I’m with you on this Sam. A 488 spider has been on my autotrader saved searches for the last year. To see your enjoyment and genuine excitement in this video really encourages to make bad financial decisions/excellent quality of life decisions. Keep up the good work mate.
I totally agree with you - I owned a yellow Challenge Stradale which I loved and bought a yellow 488 in 2017 which I still have and enyoy with its incredible performance ❤
458 every time. History will will be the judge, and already has. Price alone proves it and that tiny Pininfarina badge missing on the 488 means a lot to many.
@@BombSponge like i said a lot of hte pininfarina designers stayed at ferrari, anyway the newer ferraris look much better. they also have a lot of design elements from classic 60s/70s/80s ferraris
Got to say and this is very much against opinion but I've got to say I think the 488 looks better than the 458. The front end of the 458 just doesn't do it for me now. The front variable pitch vanes just look a bit tacky and out of place...
The Ferrari 488 GTB is indeed a remarkable supercar, blending elegance with performance. Its sleek design, refined lines, and aggressive stance make it a standout. I looooove the 488gtb.
The 458 will forever have the reputation of being the modern day pin up car. It’s the one car that even people who aren’t interested in cars know the shape of. It’s quite literally the car of the era (early 21st century)
@@Doko88 I can’t count the 911 because the silhouette hasn’t changed much since it’s conception in the 60s, so it’s not really a car of any particular era
If I were in the market for a Ferrari Sam's enthusiastic demonstration of the 488 would have me pounding the keyboard looking for a certified dealer sample, but as it is I will content myself with the 2018 Jaguar F-Type I had shipped from Texas back in January - British Racing Green with tan leather interior, 16-way adjustable seats and sunroof. It's been a joy to drive. Thanks, Sam!
I didn’t need convincing, I’ve always held this view. In fact, the 488 is what the 458 should’ve been to begin with but with a NA engine that delivers the same as the 488. I don’t mind the forced induction though, I actually like it’s performance.
I heard a cold start of one of these the other day and it sounded like thunder or a speed boat starting up. Either they had an aftermarket exhaust or they actually sound good on start up
Appreciate this video, as I was (fortunately) in the situation you describe. I had a 458 for a short period, it was the best car I'd ever had the experience of driving or owning. Fairly soon after buying it, I wanted to find a better spec / low mileage 458 "to have forever" and quickly realized I was practically in 488 price territory. I asked several long time Ferrari owners what I should do, and shockingly, all of them said "go for the 488". I ended up finding a heavily optioned 488, and was blown away by the performance after the 458. You can't go wrong with either, obviously, but I do agree too many enthusiasts rule the 488 out just because it's not NA. When I first got my 488, I admittedly was not happy with the sound, but after a full titanium Ryft catback, it sounds great. Does it sound like the 458? Of course not, but that doesn't mean it doesn't sound incredible. I've been extremely happy with the 488, it's a special car, and know anyone with an opinion would agree if they actually drove one instead of compared it to the 458 "just because". It's apples to oranges, anyway, and it's evolution from Ferrari. The NA feel of the 488 is just insane engineering.
I stopped by my local Ferrari dealer last week, and they completely agree with you. While they have both cars available, they believe the 458 is over hyped, and not as usable as a 488. As a result I am actively considering one of these. The only problem is the US market carries a significant premium to the UK market. Perhaps there is an arbitrage possible here.
I've only owned a few Alfas, 4C and the Gulia Quadrifoglio and I'm new to the channel but I love this video and fully respect Ferrari. I live in the US and I know there's an exchange rate difference but dang the prices here are are insane 😢 Great video! The 488 GTB is legendary and its looks are galoriousness 😍
The only thing the 458 has better than the 488 is the sound. Maybe that provides more emotion than the load of extra performance we get from a 488. I doubt it!
Big 488 fan… 458 was the ‘poster’ Ferrari bar the laf for a long long time… the pista for me is a podium car of all time… any 488 sub 150k is a bargain imo
Great car, no doubt. I’m casually shopping 4.7 V8 Vantages. Manual, NA V8, good reliability record and tons more up side for the future. Not to mention less than 1/2 the price. The prancing horse is an irresistible magnet for lots of folks, so the 488 can scratch that itch.
It's a close decision between 430, 458 and 488 for me. (With my imaginary purchase). 488 probably comes on top because it has much more interesting specs to choose from.
Sold. That is as soon as I can afford a high-maintenance, fair-weather, novelty, minimum 200k USD car that you can't park nearly anywhere without people complaining about grocery prices keying it. It won't be long before owners of said cars don't park one anywhere but home and the country club. Which they seemingly do now anyway. I don't recall the last time I saw a Ferrari parked after leaving Hermosa Beach.
So ironic my co worker just purchased a 488. And I couldn't agree more. Although my Boss daily drives the 812 they're really horses for courses in this instance.
I think it’s hard to argue from a depreciation standpoint, you acknowledge the 458’s legendary reputation. That in and of itself will mean that you lose far more money owning a 488 most likely.
Lose money? Ha! Not in the long run. This is truth for most any prancing horse. This current EV trending away from internal combustion will only exacerbate that further.
If your buying a Ferrari it’s a great day regardless of model. I love both the 458 and 488 and although at first I didn’t like the look of it at first I think the f8 might be the one to have in the long run.
As much as I have forever disagreed with you and Tony on the 488 over the 458 opinion, you stood true to the mantra of "show don't tell".... annnnnd now I'm heavily & stubbornly reconsidering my opinion 😅. My average electricity bill is as much as the value of a small holiday these days, so I'll never get the chance to consider purchasing one but if my bank account randomly filled with money I think I would end up following yours & Tony's advice. Thanks for the great content mate! I only get to drive my ST150 once a week for a fun blast on a Sunday, but I look forward to doing so while listening to your podcast.
Trading without professional guide....Huh I laugh you, because you will remain where you are or even make huge losses that will stop you from trading, this has been one of the biggest problem to new traders
Sam I love the bigger films you make with the gorgeous b roll and the fastidious attention to production quality but this more 'raw' content is a lovely addition. I hear you when you say you're flat out but some additional content filmed in the 1 take style would be amazing and I think you'd potentially deliver tye same ROI as some of the more blockbuster stuff. I even think there's space for a '10 minutes with a.....' type format to plug the gap between shorts and the longer form stuff for the main channel and the BTG channel. Basically what I'm saying is that I think I speak on behalf the majority of viewers that we'll welcome all variations of content you put out so the more the better 👏
Excellent video, for me the 488 suffers from people being too purists and wanting to fit in with the community. Like, established figures in the enthusiast world and other people who think the same will say, “I like a clean looking car so I don’t look like a wanna be loser”, “I must have a N/A engine because sound is the most important part of the driving experience”, blah blah blah. Hence the 488 vs 458 battle will always be won by the 458. Everybody then latches on to these opinions and makes it sort of folklore, because they like these journalists/influencers. I wish all car lovers could be more themselves and not be afraid to share their preferences and opinions, without fear of being ridiculed for it. I always thought the 488 looked better than the 458, those side air inlets, the angry lights and bumper and the beautiful rear end with the sculpted taillights. Will always be right up there in my dream Ferrari wish list.
You mean like being the owner of a V8 Ferrari back in the 80s when they were frowned upon by the V12 crowd. Those aren’t real Ferraris they’d say. They’re Dinos. Well, my ‘79 308 GTS said Ferrari and it still does.
Didn't need to be convinced. Was always my #1 mid-engine modern Ferrari. Now, please never mention it again... Keep the prices relatively(?) reasonable.
@@michaelmich00 first 7 yrs are covered for routine maintenance by Ferrari. Yrly or every 12000 miles which ever is first. The extended warranties of V8s cost about 5300$ after the initial warranty at 3 goes off. The power 15 warranty with annual service costs about 6200$ for cars in their 8th yr. The warranty covers a lot of the most expensive parts, engine, transmission, turbos, just paid for my exhaust vacuum solenoid, including replacing the hoses, which was making some noises. Covered services mean that the diagnosis is then covered too which can cost hundreds especially when they've got to take off the rear bumper to diagnose. It also covers towing the vehicle with a 24/7 service. I personally budget about $10000 a yr between warranties and possible routine wear and tear stuff like a tire. My husband has hit two potholes in his Audi and ruined two nearly new tires. You Cannot predict anything these days. I’m now getting a v12 Lusso cpo added to my garage with a two yr warranty but without the maintenance because they don’t offer it on the Lusso after its 7 yr. I’m figuring all in yrly costs after the first 2 yrs at around $13000 all in, car insurance and registration, warranty and yrly maintenance but a note of caution where I live my insurance is cheap. $2236 a yr for 3000miles full replacement coverage. It’s an expensive hobby or love affair….take your pick. But when you get in and start it up, you'll never stop smiling.
@@carolneumann2860 did the math in europe and will be 20k a year, not making me smile enough to see 20k evaporate as weekend car lol. thanks for your full answer. i need to move to the us or buy a cheaper model
@@michaelmich00 I’d have issues with 20k too for one car.The one thing with Europe is the cars are usually much cheaper than in the states. I paid 275k$ for a cpo spider, 3 yrs ago, and they're still asking up near there for the same aged car with a little less mileage at dealers. So depreciation has been nil especially since I’ve maintained the warranty. However in the case of my 488 which I love, will it be a 30+ yr keeper like my 308GTS? Not likely. With all the computers valve controllers etc etc etc, it will eventually become a nightmare, unless Ferrari has an aggressive aftermarket in parts for the 488, but I will enjoy it for a few more yrs. Now that Ferrari is offering battery protection on their hybrids that will protect the eventual second owner of a 296 or SF90, maybe my next with a trade in. Or I trade in both the 488 and Lusso that’s incoming for a Purosangue CPO’d in a few yrs. Not sure I’ll ever get to spec a new one. It would be tempting .
prices in the UK are crazy (RHD...less people want them). In Switzerland it's still 200k for a 488, same as an F12. I think i'd go for an F12 at that price
Thank you Sam! Currently on a (re) watch of the Drive The Wolrd videos and can I say, thank you for all those epic adventures, what a drive that was indeed. Really enjoyed, hopefully a new DTW video series for other parts of the world, will happen soon. Standout videos, I watched the wild and crazy, Kansas Porsche 917 city drive video and the cool Biarritz stop over video, first class 👍
I´m buying a 458 Italia or a 488 GTB for 2025. This video helped a little bit!! I´ve owned both before but it´s actually hard to decide!! Great video Sam!!!
People hate on the 488 because most of them have never had a 458 or a 488 and experienced them at the same time. The 488 is a hell of a better car than the 458. The only thing the 458 has over the 488 is the noise. I upgraded my 488 to a Pista and would not trade it for a Speciale. Although one day I will add the Speciale to my collection...!
You're dead right, I could buy one of these instead of the SF90 I was looking at with by company bonus this year, which leaves me with enough money to install a swimming pool in my holiday home.
I think if you have owned a 458 first this car will not do it for you. I still have my 458 with a novitec exhaust and its just so beautiful sounding that I felt even the 488 with an exhaust couldnt touch it. Raw speed difference is really not that noticable if you drive them back to back. I sold my 488 recently and kept the 458 for the long haul... If I do ever buy another ferrari it will likely be a v12 when they are not silly expensive.
Congratulations for the video ! Guys, anyone moving to 488 from California T? I am considering this to have more fun, am I right ? (previously owned an FF, an F12, a Cali and a Cali T but never a v8 central one).
Internet warriors tend to forget that both the 288GTO and F40 were not only pieces of art, but turbo cars. All this bs about the sound of the 488, comes mostly from people that never drove one. Sounds different from a N/A engine? Sure. Does it sound bad? Really? BS in my opinion, and I’m at my third V8 Ferrari…
For those that have had the good fortune to drive or own both, most love the sound of the 488. It sounds great at lower RPMs with a deep growl, great pops and the modern sound of the turbos spinning. Ferrari for most is about stunning design and performance. The 488 is an improvement over the 458 in both key categories.
Its funny i was doing my deliverys last week and i parked next to a red 458 and had a look and still WOW what a car. Still looks so good and has such presence. And of course it would be more than fast enough that anyone would want.
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If they're easier to make, these one take videos are just as entertaining imo, not overly produced just your opinions and some B roll 👌
I just bought one today! A beautiful low mile (9K miles) GTB. White on black/red race seats. What a car!
Who from?
Congrats brother, hope you have fun with your Ferrari 👍
@@evanhi450 I live in FL. I bought through facetime from a dealer in Washington state and had it shipped here.
@@nfareviewdid you get a good deal on it? I bought my Cali T cash from Ferrari of Naples like 3 months ago and I’m already looking at 488’s (preferably spider)
@@andrewfakelove3789 yeah mine was a cash deal too which helps negotiations and speeds things up. I got a very good deal. Pretty much anywhere winter/snow is starting would be a good start. Sales are slow and they are willing to move units.
Still an awesome car. Your original series bringing the factory 488 back to the UK is still a real highlight of the channel for me, been back to it several times!
I’m off to look for that.
Absolutely!
That autobahn run is excellent!
I love my ‘17 488 spider. I purchased it in 2021 with 6000 miles on it and now have 12000. Have continued to carry the power 15 warranty after the first two yr certification, and plan to continue to do so as my dealer is 140 miles away. Only issue has been a dead battery, the shifts, the sounds, the feel of the machine on the road is intoxicating. I have a ‘17 Porsche 911 4S, and a 2021 GT 500 in the garage as well. My drive choice is always the Ferrari over those other fine cars. There’s just something emotionally satisfying with the 488, the Porsche is too well behaved and muted and the GT 500 too raw for my tastes. Of the three the 488 gets the most conversation followed by the GT, kids and women especially notice, especially when they see a woman getting out of the car.
Interesting
Thank you for your comment. It has helped tremendously.
What do you do for a job? Cool seeing a women in the car world
Retired now, was a dentist.
@@carolneumann2860 wow that’s nice! Congrats on your retirement and amazing cars
458 is the one. Last in class from a great brand, looks good and drives fantastic. It's only going to go up in value.
nope, overrated and ugly
The interior is getting seriously dated, and the prices don't reflect the performance of the car. The 488 is better in every way other than sound.
@@JohnFromAccounting In the US people who don't know a crankshaft from a camshaft are buying 458s because someone told them they will go up in value, not because they love the car. I bought a 488 in April and am in love with it.
A lot of people who comment the 458 is better have never been in, let alone, driven a 488 or either. The 488 is just better all round. Actually sounds better also, the 458 is just a bark noise, and actually isn't great to drive with. The 488 is a mega car!
458 is the forever car, but if values for those go crazy before I get one then the 488 will be a very solid back up plan.
lol 458 is a pos
@@aeromotive2 458 is the car to get. Last of the pininfarina, NA mid engine V8, more visceral. Its not all about acceleration when the 488 sounds like a vacuum compared to the 458
@@Jkhpjk agreed
@@Jkhpjk 488 with novitec sounds as good or better than a stock 458 and the 488 is nicer in every other way. "last of the pininfarina" doesn't really mean anything in terms of drive quality or things that matter to drivers. 488 also looks way sharper.
@tempesta1229 I'm sure we're talking about stock vs stock. Many cars including the 488 can be made to sound "better" but in general i think the majority of people prefer the sound of a mid engine NA V8 over the tt v8. And we were talking in the context of values when I mentioned last of the pininfarina.
Unlike many who comment here I have been privileged to own a 360/430/488 spider typically for 3 years, have tracked each one as well as epic longer trips to Le Mans etc
Each in it’s time has been the best sports car I’ve ever owned utterly amazing
Each is a better car in every way than it’s predecessor
I decided on a 488 as I thought it looked more modern and timeless
and it’s handling / performance / sound is incredible. Service costs have been nil and insurance sensible
I think the ‘fashionable’ comments about noise trotted out usually by those who have never owned one are ridiculous
The 488 is wonderful
BobH
@@roberthall1046 absolutely right. I owned two previous Ferrari V8 N/A before the 488, and the 488 is my preferred one overall. Hands down
488 GTB is the modern Ferrari masterpiece !
what about 458? o F12?
13:30 A Ferrari and a Toyota 4x4 meet on a single-lane road and it's the Ferrari who pulls onto the grass, I felt that
Except that's an Isuzu, not a Toyota. (Yes I'm a Toyota 4x4 fan boy 💀)
An Isuzu D-Max, these thing rip (smoky af)
I would have pulled up as well - 4x4 drivers are kak
The 458 is the one imo. The last naturally aspirated V8 supercar Ferrari. They'll go up in a few years, mark my words. I do think the standard 488 (not pista) was underappreciated however
as long as the 458 is still hot(which will be always) the 488 will, imo, always benefit from that just because of how similar the cars are; and the 488 is bulletproof
458: I have a NA V8 but I don’t want to drive it to keep its value. 488: I don’t care, the drive is so good and I have an aftermarket exhaust. Want noise? Buy a 355. Want performance? Buy a 488
458 just sounds better don’t get me wrong a 488 can sound very good but just won’t even be an NA car
Don't care if they 'go up', I just like to drive what I own.
@@pierredebug17 but does the 488 really drives better than a 458?
The Ferrari 458 is an icon and an amazing super car !
However, for just another $50K you can get a Ferrari 488 with its vastly superior performance, huge low end torque, incredible LaFerrari inspired modern design and advanced tech ! Many even like the deeper varied sound of the twin turbo V8 especially with open valves or aftermarket exhaust. Most well known experienced exotic car reviewers have determined that the 488 is the better Ferrari.
Get either one and you will be turning heads and smiling every mile you drive.
Pony up another $250K and you can get the incredible new 296 GTB with its classic great looks and mind blowing performance. Ferrari keeps evolving and getting better !
I totally agree with you Sam. Last year I went shopping to add either a 458 or 488 to my garage, I really didn't care which. The internet was telling me 458. But after driving both several times I just couldn't understand it, the drive of the 488 was just sooo much better, faster, and had a far more modern feel, and sounded great too. I took my own council and bought a 488GTB, and it ain't going nowhere, I love it, it's a fantastic supercar, and better than most new offerings.
I did the same but settled on the orchestral 458 and the Pininfarina styling. Speed aint everything.
side slip 7 doesn't work on a lot of Pista's I see being shunted. I do like the looks of the 488 and the interior looks like it will age very well. In the states the 488 are between $225 and $300k USD. Still very expensive. So many options in that price range.
You're right. The 488 is the best modern-day Ferrari you can buy. The episode you drive a 488 from the factory is one of my favorite episodes.
Chris Harris also previously said that the 458 was already too digital and that you might as well just get the 488 instead
I believe if somebody wants somewhat analog mid engine Ferrari, then the last one of those would be 360.
Chris Harris also said he hates suvs and everyone should buy a fast estate whilst daily driving a G wagon. You can’t take everything a journalist says as gospel
Chris Harris also said he hates SUVs and everyone should have a fast estate whilst daily driving a G Wagon. You shouldn’t take everything a journalist says as gospel
@@thedownshiftchannel I suspect 75% of people with SUVs would be just fine with an estate, so he's on to something. I live in the US and see how unused most SUVs are.
@@thedownshiftchannelfacts
I fell in love with the twin Turbo V8 when I heard it pass by. Then I understand how sick the tone of the engine sounds, it didn’t matter how loud it was. A Novitec exhaust would perfect it tho.
The 488 have grown on me in such a positive way. I love that car and if I had the money I would choose that over the 458 any given day and put an exhaust on it for more noise. It's a stunning car to look at aswell!
In person the 488 looks and sounds amazing ! so much better than many people think
Having had both I prefer my 488 over the 458, if feels better to drive. And I bought it off the back of your videos bringing the 488 back to the UK 👍
I've had my 488 for over two years now and absolutely love it! Can't see me changing it, where else can you go without spending 80k more. Great video, trust sam and buy one if you have the budget.
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I’m with you on this Sam. A 488 spider has been on my autotrader saved searches for the last year. To see your enjoyment and genuine excitement in this video really encourages to make bad financial decisions/excellent quality of life decisions. Keep up the good work mate.
488 is a massively underrated Ferrari. The Pista is probably the pinnacle of the V8s
Definitely agree. I sold my F430 spit and was looking at 458/488. The 458 are up to 14 years old. And so I bought a 2016 488. It’s awesome.
I totally agree with you - I owned a yellow Challenge Stradale which I loved and bought a yellow 488 in 2017 which I still have and enyoy with its incredible performance ❤
I prefer the cleaner purer lines of the 458 but a 488 with warranty and more performance is the better answer
fugly car (458)
458 every time. History will will be the judge, and already has. Price alone proves it and that tiny Pininfarina badge missing on the 488 means a lot to many.
@@BombSponge considering a lot of the key pininfarina designers decided to work with ferrari it shouldnt mean anything
@@dddd-uk4vn You have seen Ferrari styling since they dropped Pininfarina and went 'in-house'? Disaster - Half Lambo half Corvette 🤢
@@BombSponge like i said a lot of hte pininfarina designers stayed at ferrari, anyway the newer ferraris look much better. they also have a lot of design elements from classic 60s/70s/80s ferraris
Got to say and this is very much against opinion but I've got to say I think the 488 looks better than the 458. The front end of the 458 just doesn't do it for me now. The front variable pitch vanes just look a bit tacky and out of place...
The Ferrari 488 GTB is indeed a remarkable supercar, blending elegance with performance. Its sleek design, refined lines, and aggressive stance make it a standout.
I looooove the 488gtb.
The problem of the 488 is the 458.
I'm in the minority. I like the 488 better.
@@claviclenotch1876looks much more modern
No! You’re wrong. The problem with the 458 is the 458….nothing as good as the 488
@@claviclenotch1876me too
Please drive both and you’ll change your mind
Been saying this for months. Good looking, fast, 800 bhp with a map, it can compete with any new super car and it’s got the handling to match.
Great argument in favor of the 488, Sam. Thank you.
No comparison. I honestly don't understand the dilemma. The 488 is the better car. And looks the part to.
If money wasn’t a problem for me, I’d love a nice 488. Probably the same spec as this too with the red interior. Lovely.
The 458 will forever have the reputation of being the modern day pin up car. It’s the one car that even people who aren’t interested in cars know the shape of. It’s quite literally the car of the era (early 21st century)
People who aren't interested in cars think the 458, 488, and F8 look the same
Dumbest comment in yhe comments. @@macnugget
I think the Car that you Are Talking about is a 911 😂
@@Doko88 I can’t count the 911 because the silhouette hasn’t changed much since it’s conception in the 60s, so it’s not really a car of any particular era
@@macnugget true, but they all look like the one that came first, which is the 458
If I were in the market for a Ferrari Sam's enthusiastic demonstration of the 488 would have me pounding the keyboard looking for a certified dealer sample, but as it is I will content myself with the 2018 Jaguar F-Type I had shipped from Texas back in January - British Racing Green with tan leather interior, 16-way adjustable seats and sunroof. It's been a joy to drive. Thanks, Sam!
The 488 was the first supercar I ever drove, and it remains my dream car to this day. Above anything else even HyperCars
Yet you have a Koenigsegg agera r as your profile pic. Not hating still good choice😂
Same here I rented one back in 2019 I been love struck since lol
Who didn't see Sam's video with 488 and Sebastian Vettel, look it up now. You will see what a beast this car can be in skilled pair of hands.
Great video, I do really like the 488 and have no problem with the design of it.
I didn’t need convincing, I’ve always held this view. In fact, the 488 is what the 458 should’ve been to begin with but with a NA engine that delivers the same as the 488. I don’t mind the forced induction though, I actually like it’s performance.
Sold here mate! Never really been desperate for a Ferrari on the dream list, but you've added a 488 to my lotto win / dream job list.
I heard a cold start of one of these the other day and it sounded like thunder or a speed boat starting up. Either they had an aftermarket exhaust or they actually sound good on start up
The 488 looks and sounds absolutely amazing! A spectacular dream machine. It is so choice, I highly recommend picking one up if you have the means.
It still looks better than most new Ferraris of today. Beautiful.
Recently you were talking about buying a Portofino. Why not 488 instead?
Thanks for your video! Just picked up a 2018 488 GTB. My first Ferrari. Absolutely love it!
I absolutely love the 488, especially the looks!
Appreciate this video, as I was (fortunately) in the situation you describe. I had a 458 for a short period, it was the best car I'd ever had the experience of driving or owning. Fairly soon after buying it, I wanted to find a better spec / low mileage 458 "to have forever" and quickly realized I was practically in 488 price territory. I asked several long time Ferrari owners what I should do, and shockingly, all of them said "go for the 488". I ended up finding a heavily optioned 488, and was blown away by the performance after the 458. You can't go wrong with either, obviously, but I do agree too many enthusiasts rule the 488 out just because it's not NA. When I first got my 488, I admittedly was not happy with the sound, but after a full titanium Ryft catback, it sounds great. Does it sound like the 458? Of course not, but that doesn't mean it doesn't sound incredible. I've been extremely happy with the 488, it's a special car, and know anyone with an opinion would agree if they actually drove one instead of compared it to the 458 "just because". It's apples to oranges, anyway, and it's evolution from Ferrari. The NA feel of the 488 is just insane engineering.
I stopped by my local Ferrari dealer last week, and they completely agree with you. While they have both cars available, they believe the 458 is over hyped, and not as usable as a 488. As a result I am actively considering one of these. The only problem is the US market carries a significant premium to the UK market. Perhaps there is an arbitrage possible here.
Yes, I'm not sure why they are so cheap in the UK.
Get temperature on the tires and enjoy the G-Forces on twisty roads its unbelievable.whats possible with the 488 💪
I've only owned a few Alfas, 4C and the Gulia Quadrifoglio and I'm new to the channel but I love this video and fully respect Ferrari. I live in the US and I know there's an exchange rate difference but dang the prices here are are insane 😢 Great video! The 488 GTB is legendary and its looks are galoriousness 😍
The only thing the 458 has better than the 488 is the sound. Maybe that provides more emotion than the load of extra performance we get from a 488.
I doubt it!
Big 488 fan… 458 was the ‘poster’ Ferrari bar the laf for a long long time… the pista for me is a podium car of all time… any 488 sub 150k is a bargain imo
Great car, no doubt. I’m casually shopping 4.7 V8 Vantages. Manual, NA V8, good reliability record and tons more up side for the future. Not to mention less than 1/2 the price. The prancing horse is an irresistible magnet for lots of folks, so the 488 can scratch that itch.
488 is the best Ferrari as long as you mount a Novitec exhaust.
It's a close decision between 430, 458 and 488 for me. (With my imaginary purchase). 488 probably comes on top because it has much more interesting specs to choose from.
Never thought like this some years back, but the 488 does age better than the 458 from a visual standpoint
I always thought it looked cleaner than the 458
Sold. That is as soon as I can afford a high-maintenance, fair-weather, novelty, minimum 200k USD car that you can't park nearly anywhere without people complaining about grocery prices keying it. It won't be long before owners of said cars don't park one anywhere but home and the country club. Which they seemingly do now anyway. I don't recall the last time I saw a Ferrari parked after leaving Hermosa Beach.
So ironic my co worker just purchased a 488. And I couldn't agree more. Although my Boss daily drives the 812 they're really horses for courses in this instance.
How about a 599? 612 horsepower Enzo derived V12 for 90-odd grand. Sounds pretty good to me
Looks ugly for me, much worse then f12
Get equal length exhaust headers(manifolds) for your 599 and it's gonna be pure heaven.
Better not get it straight-piped though. Way too loud and would become a poser's edition imo.
Until you have to have it serviced………
Ive just brought a 488 in may 2024 so this title made me smile!
I drove it before Covid , it’s was fantastic.
I did a similar review a few months ago in a 488 Spider and came to the same conclusion.
I think it’s hard to argue from a depreciation standpoint, you acknowledge the 458’s legendary reputation. That in and of itself will mean that you lose far more money owning a 488 most likely.
Unless they've already bottomed out
Lose money? Ha! Not in the long run. This is truth for most any prancing horse. This current EV trending away from internal combustion will only exacerbate that further.
I wasn't sure, but NOW I'm buying it.
If your buying a Ferrari it’s a great day regardless of model. I love both the 458 and 488 and although at first I didn’t like the look of it at first I think the f8 might be the one to have in the long run.
It might be a controversial statement but I love the sound of 488!
@@amanalisaiyyad9281 not controversial at all. I find it exquisitely intoxicating
I'm all 488. If the 458 had the intakes like the 430 and the 488;I'd be for the 458. But 488 reminds me of of my favorite, the 430
If you ever get a chance to view a 488 parked near or next to a LaFerrari and 458, see how much more the 488 resembles the ultimate modern Ferrari.
As much as I have forever disagreed with you and Tony on the 488 over the 458 opinion, you stood true to the mantra of "show don't tell".... annnnnd now I'm heavily & stubbornly reconsidering my opinion 😅. My average electricity bill is as much as the value of a small holiday these days, so I'll never get the chance to consider purchasing one but if my bank account randomly filled with money I think I would end up following yours & Tony's advice. Thanks for the great content mate! I only get to drive my ST150 once a week for a fun blast on a Sunday, but I look forward to doing so while listening to your podcast.
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The 488 is the better car but Ferrari is all about passion and so the N/A vehicles tend to hold a higher place in enthusiasts' minds.
Sam I love the bigger films you make with the gorgeous b roll and the fastidious attention to production quality but this more 'raw' content is a lovely addition. I hear you when you say you're flat out but some additional content filmed in the 1 take style would be amazing and I think you'd potentially deliver tye same ROI as some of the more blockbuster stuff. I even think there's space for a '10 minutes with a.....' type format to plug the gap between shorts and the longer form stuff for the main channel and the BTG channel. Basically what I'm saying is that I think I speak on behalf the majority of viewers that we'll welcome all variations of content you put out so the more the better 👏
Excellent video, for me the 488 suffers from people being too purists and wanting to fit in with the community. Like, established figures in the enthusiast world and other people who think the same will say, “I like a clean looking car so I don’t look like a wanna be loser”, “I must have a N/A engine because sound is the most important part of the driving experience”, blah blah blah. Hence the 488 vs 458 battle will always be won by the 458. Everybody then latches on to these opinions and makes it sort of folklore, because they like these journalists/influencers. I wish all car lovers could be more themselves and not be afraid to share their preferences and opinions, without fear of being ridiculed for it. I always thought the 488 looked better than the 458, those side air inlets, the angry lights and bumper and the beautiful rear end with the sculpted taillights. Will always be right up there in my dream Ferrari wish list.
You mean like being the owner of a V8 Ferrari back in the 80s when they were frowned upon by the V12 crowd. Those aren’t real Ferraris they’d say. They’re Dinos. Well, my ‘79 308 GTS said Ferrari and it still does.
Didn't need to be convinced.
Was always my #1 mid-engine modern Ferrari.
Now, please never mention it again...
Keep the prices relatively(?) reasonable.
Will choose the 458 anytime over the 488
I love the 488!! Keen for this!!
I've had my 488 Spider for a year and it's a tremendous machine. With the stock exhaust even, it's pretty loud. It's a keeper for sure.
how is maintenance costs?
@@michaelmich00 Its still under the 7 year maintenance program
@@michaelmich00 first 7 yrs are covered for routine maintenance by Ferrari. Yrly or every 12000 miles which ever is first. The extended warranties of V8s cost about 5300$ after the initial warranty at 3 goes off. The power 15 warranty with annual service costs about 6200$ for cars in their 8th yr. The warranty covers a lot of the most expensive parts, engine, transmission, turbos, just paid for my exhaust vacuum solenoid, including replacing the hoses, which was making some noises. Covered services mean that the diagnosis is then covered too which can cost hundreds especially when they've got to take off the rear bumper to diagnose. It also covers towing the vehicle with a 24/7 service. I personally budget about $10000 a yr between warranties and possible routine wear and tear stuff like a tire. My husband has hit two potholes in his Audi and ruined two nearly new tires. You Cannot predict anything these days. I’m now getting a v12 Lusso cpo added to my garage with a two yr warranty but without the maintenance because they don’t offer it on the Lusso after its 7 yr. I’m figuring all in yrly costs after the first 2 yrs at around $13000 all in, car insurance and registration, warranty and yrly maintenance but a note of caution where I live my insurance is cheap. $2236 a yr for 3000miles full replacement coverage. It’s an expensive hobby or love affair….take your pick. But when you get in and start it up, you'll never stop smiling.
@@carolneumann2860 did the math in europe and will be 20k a year, not making me smile enough to see 20k evaporate as weekend car lol. thanks for your full answer. i need to move to the us or buy a cheaper model
@@michaelmich00 I’d have issues with 20k too for one car.The one thing with Europe is the cars are usually much cheaper than in the states. I paid 275k$ for a cpo spider, 3 yrs ago, and they're still asking up near there for the same aged car with a little less mileage at dealers. So depreciation has been nil especially since I’ve maintained the warranty. However in the case of my 488 which I love, will it be a 30+ yr keeper like my 308GTS? Not likely. With all the computers valve controllers etc etc etc, it will eventually become a nightmare, unless Ferrari has an aggressive aftermarket in parts for the 488, but I will enjoy it for a few more yrs. Now that Ferrari is offering battery protection on their hybrids that will protect the eventual second owner of a 296 or SF90, maybe my next with a trade in. Or I trade in both the 488 and Lusso that’s incoming for a Purosangue CPO’d in a few yrs. Not sure I’ll ever get to spec a new one. It would be tempting .
Everyone was anti turbo when these came out. Now everything is turbocharged. Worth the money
prices in the UK are crazy (RHD...less people want them). In Switzerland it's still 200k for a 488, same as an F12. I think i'd go for an F12 at that price
Yes a 488 for me. Excellent review!
Agree about the 488 being spec dependent, that all red is a million times better than the red & black from your ferrari factory video 👍
I agree. The black ruins the overall shape of the design.
Thank you Sam! Currently on a (re) watch of the Drive The Wolrd videos and can I say, thank you for all those epic adventures, what a drive that was indeed. Really enjoyed, hopefully a new DTW video series for other parts of the world, will happen soon. Standout videos, I watched the wild and crazy, Kansas Porsche 917 city drive video and the cool Biarritz stop over video, first class 👍
Nice video Sam. I agree. 488 is a great car. 👌👏
I guess i was a little early. Last year chose a 488 spider over a 458 spider. Have had a blast.
I´m buying a 458 Italia or a 488 GTB for 2025. This video helped a little bit!! I´ve owned both before but it´s actually hard to decide!! Great video Sam!!!
People hate on the 488 because most of them have never had a 458 or a 488 and experienced them at the same time. The 488 is a hell of a better car than the 458. The only thing the 458 has over the 488 is the noise. I upgraded my 488 to a Pista and would not trade it for a Speciale. Although one day I will add the Speciale to my collection...!
Sound is on point imo, want to upgrade? Listen to the novitec video of the 488, to good
Love the looks tbh, still „classic“, but a modern beast underneath
You're dead right, I could buy one of these instead of the SF90 I was looking at with by company bonus this year, which leaves me with enough money to install a swimming pool in my holiday home.
I think if you have owned a 458 first this car will not do it for you. I still have my 458 with a novitec exhaust and its just so beautiful sounding that I felt even the 488 with an exhaust couldnt touch it. Raw speed difference is really not that noticable if you drive them back to back. I sold my 488 recently and kept the 458 for the long haul... If I do ever buy another ferrari it will likely be a v12 when they are not silly expensive.
Amazing video! These one-take videos are nice
Congratulations for the video ! Guys, anyone moving to 488 from California T? I am considering this to have more fun, am I right ? (previously owned an FF, an F12, a Cali and a Cali T but never a v8 central one).
The 488 looks absolutely gorgeous! I would choose it over the 458 just for that reason alone.
Internet warriors tend to forget that both the 288GTO and F40 were not only pieces of art, but turbo cars. All this bs about the sound of the 488, comes mostly from people that never drove one. Sounds different from a N/A engine? Sure. Does it sound bad? Really? BS in my opinion, and I’m at my third V8 Ferrari…
For those that have had the good fortune to drive or own both, most love the sound of the 488. It sounds great at lower RPMs with a deep growl, great pops and the modern sound of the turbos spinning.
Ferrari for most is about stunning design and performance. The 488 is an improvement over the 458 in both key categories.
Couldn't have said it better!! Totally agree..... Absolutely fantastic, and very handsome looking car 👌
Its funny i was doing my deliverys last week and i parked next to a red 458 and had a look and still WOW what a car. Still looks so good and has such presence. And of course it would be more than fast enough that anyone would want.
The 488 GTB is my favorite Ferrari
Great video, Sam! I love the 488 however the F8 Tributo in a few years might be even a better bet. I love the rear window that references the F40 🖖🏼❤
I brought a 458 two years ago, amazing car, I was dead against the 488, but your video is a strong argument....
Agree Sam, the 488 is a masterpiece :-)
To be perfectly transparent, given a choice, I would select this or an F8 over a 296 GTB with no reservation, whatsoever.
I agree. Best Ferrari value at the moment. Superb choice!