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Porsche has recently announced that with immediate effect, production of its 718 Cayman and Boxster with internal combustion engines will cease. In this video, we find out all the details why, and take a brilliant 718 GTS 4.0 for a farewell drive to salute the ICE.
Thanks to Porsche GB for the loan of this stunning 718 GTS 4.0 in Python green.
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I love my 718 S I know it’s a flat 4 but I’m just happy to have a Porsche 😊 my last car was a V6 twin turbo developed by Cosworth ! Very special engine ! Miss that car 😢
I won’t be going EV at all !
The EU is fcuking the ice car industry.
It is part of WEF cult Klaus Schwab's globalist and the hyper rich 0,1% agenda where "YOU will own NOTHING and be happy (or else.....).
Considering the price, it's even more amazing. At the end of this video, I even heard some sounds of greatness. It would be interesting to compare back to back this GTS 4.0 against a 981 GTS/S/base, because while these 4L cars are a baragin in their own right, they are still far too expensive for many, whereas the 981s are now accessible to the majority of the population, and represent by far the most moden Porsche true sports cars you can get for the money.
There is a 981 gts vs 718 gts comparison. The 981 sounds better and the S is more than enough performance. Pick one up for 34k, mint and fully loaded.
Why pay 45k-50k for the 981 gts, or 60k for the 718 gts...u less you have money to burn
I’d go 981 GTS…and to be honest, for 718 GTS money…I wouldn’t look further than the 981 Spyder…very very special car.
It's interesting to read people's differing opinions, and I see good arguments in favour of all options. It's also interesting to me that the two respondents so far prefer the 981 3.4 engine over the 718 4.0.
I know several people with a base 2.7 981 Boxster who seem very happy indeed, despite being 50bhp down on the 3.4 S. Maybe it's because there are many more manual base cars, I'm not sure. But to me they don't seem particularly good value compared to an S.
I guess the appeal of the GTS over the S, more than the extra 15bhp, is if you want the standard equipment that I assume would have been optional on an S, and whether you want bucket seats. For many people, I would think the additional 10k spend over the S would be worth it for the extra specialness and exclusivity that will probably always demand a significant premium, and maybe that premium with increase over the years.
However, although the roof would be a real pain, I agree the 981 Spyder is a really good call for similar money to a 718 GTS 4.0. Personally, I'd opt for the standard 'comfort' seats, but as always YMMV.
@@nigel.w I test drove the 981 2.7, 3.4 and the gts 4.0.
Budget aside, the 2.7 is definitely more rev happy, but you have to keep the revs high for performance, the torque is just too low on a small incline.
The 3.4 S/gts, it's not a torque monster, but more than fine, particularly if it's just me in the car.
The 981 gts made sense if you're buying new and wanted all options, they have held well, but at this point the command too much over a well equipped S. I wouldn't bother with sportschrono although u have it, pdam failures and you won't really use the sport plus button.
The 4.0 is great, but I'd rather tune the 981S if out of warranty, you can get 350-360bhp as its a detuned base 911. In the uk the 4.0 has filters that deaden the sound
@@Jay-xr3sb Interesting. Thank you for your expert input.
Thank god we can still buy these wonderful cars for now, get one while you can. Brilliant video.
Great video 🤓!!! Last year in February 2023, I acquired my new 718 Cayman GTS 4.0 which has the 4L NA flat six cylinder engine (same unit as a GT4) and a PDK gearbox. Power output (394 bhp) and torque (317 lb-ft) are a nice match to this car's sensible curb weight (~3200 lbs). The color is Gentian Blue metallic with a black/chalk all-leather interior and silver wheel rims. It's definitely an entertaining driver's car!
So far, I've only done 452 miles but hopefully a lot more this coming Summer! The PDK is also a lot of fun (it's definitely quick) 🤓
All the best and thanks again from Colorado!
"Porsche...There is No Substitute!!!"
Blume has said ICE will run alongside EV on the Boxster platform. Might not be able to get them in the EU, but Porsche would be cutting off a substantial part of their US market. Nobody wanted the 4 cyl. Can you imagine how few will want an EV Boxster? Especially with the way the Taycan has faired on the used market? (BTW, I had a 4 cyl. and it was great.)
Prices will go up
I adore my Cayman 4.0 GTS, plus Python Green is the best colour.
You need to revisit a 981 GT4
Can't believe that a few years ago, we were all complaining about the boxter and cayman going 4 cylinder, now the next generation will be electric only, I can't believe any owner will swap out to an electric model.
I'm a big fan of the Boxster/Cayman GTS 4.0 cars. Good content, Lee. Thanks.
Thanks to my awesome Porsche salesperson, I'm fortunate to have gone all in on my 2024 718 GTS 4.0 in November '23. Waiting any longer would have meant slim chances of seizing the opportunity to obtain a brand-new one.
min6 onwards....Porfection!!!
However the first 6min was very interesting, you are becoming a source of info anf knowledge on all Porsche's. Good work.
718s are great, you can drive them hard and rotate on their axis, unlike a 911, hard to push on sometimes, due it's traits, but still love those traits.
Lee, maybe get more friendly with Porsche GB and get a few cars to 'test' drive (all models). You'd be much better than many other (YTers) as you know and appreciate the product.
I would never, never buy an electric Porsche sports car or any other. Porsche will change their tune as sales will flop.
Government mandated consumer products cannot succeed in the long term.
Epic drive by with the different tones of the BoxEngines, a sports car MUST evoke emotions!
Great video, but I noticed the central draughty excluder wasn’t clipped properly on the drivers side! Air gap underneath it!
Having owned 911’s, some cabs, I have a 4.0 GTS Boxster, better drive, more fun, better looking, Porsche’s best sports car. And according to Harry’s Garage “history will teach us it was the best”. Get one while you can.
In Australia you got till may 27 last orders
I rented one of these in dubai,what a car and sound. Took it out to the desert and opened her up. Unbelievable machine❤
Get one while you can then. I don't think my 86 Carrera will have problems with cyber security 😊. I'm not convinced where the market is for a EV 2 seater given the depreciation on the Taycan, but we will see.
Here people stopped bying EV`s 2 years ago and they have been lowering the prices again and again but they still struggle to sell them. People have started to discovers all the huge disadvantages with EV specially in in winter country like Norway with cold and long distances. It is no fun when a 3 hour drive turns into 5 hour drive because you need "refueling" and there is long waiting line to charge.
To me this is the greatest sports car ever made. The Mid-Engine platform is just better than the Rear-Engine one, it's straight physics.
And with that engine, that size, that weight, that finesse in it's driving dynamics this is AWESOME.
I am a simple man, as soon as a sports car becomes and EV it's completely out of my radar. But the Boxster that's coming will be the only time I'll give them a chance, like you said, if anyone can do it, it's Porsche.
Went to see the red T at Harbour yesterday. Lovely looking car and a perfect tonic to the everyday ease of an EV. Although not the gospel flat 6 still everything that a sports car should be…and still up for sale !
Spent the day driving a 2024 Boxster GTS 4.0. It is fantastic
It's not EU legislation. It's a UN directive adopted by the EU (and numerous other countries around the world).
Love my 2023 Boxster GTS 4.0. It’s simply the most enjoyable car I’ve ever owned, and I traded my 991.2 S for it with no regrets.
in australia just got email saying cayman boxter finish taking orders end of may 24 electric from then on
Why did they not put that engine in the 992?
What’s the connection between the engine type (flat 6 or EV) and cybersecurity ?
I got it after re- listening. The current platform doesn't comply to the cyber security requirements. So instead of upgrading the platform, the fully replace it with an EV platform.
This is about them not wanting to put the kilswitch in them.
EV are not the future!!! Mark my words !!
Unfortunately they are . And I ten years the performance of the EVs will make these dinosaurs.. that said.. I have a new 718 CGTS 4.0... LOVE IT..
Let’s hope the same applies to the new Communist/Labour government’.
@@skippynj1979 No, they are not, not for sports cars, not for fun. For dailies or whatever yes, not for having fun.
May God listen to your words brother.
@@Bmontepeque11 I'll respectfully disagree. I have had the chance to run a Gen 1 taycan turbo s on the track. It's a monster and gen 2 will be lighter and more capable and parity with the 911 will maybe one more generation away. And I have a 911 on order right now. I'm a gear head, but I see the writing in the wall.
Great video! As a 981 Cayman GTS owner currently I’m currently debating an upgrade to 718 GTS 4.0. But I’m not seeing the additional value of the 4.0 over the 3.4 particularly as the 981 is not muted by GPF & the sports exhaust sounds far better on the 981 IMHO. The interiors are almost identical & you can argue that the 3.4Litre with the PowerPack on the 981 GTS is sufficient power for this type of well balance fine handling sports car. Be great if you could compare the two back to back @9WERKS TV?
Thanks for the kind words on the video. I'd love to do a back-to-back comparison as I've been asked a few times on this now. Agreed I think the 981 GTS sounds better, in fact I think it's one of the best modern-sounding Porsche outside of GT product. I also think the 981 is a prettier car than 718…
Be great to do that 981 v 718 GTS comparison.
I think the front end of the 981 GTS looks absolutely fantastic but I prefer the rear of the 718 car. Need to test drive the newer car & do the ‘man maths’ - dangerous pastime that!😂
@@DS981GTSI test drove both & chose the 981 just because of the exshaust note 😊amazing
@@pauldavies7251 Interesting, I’m currently in N Wales with my 981 & loving it. Not sure it’s worth what would be in excess of £25k to change up to from a 2014 car to a newer 718GTS!
@@DS981GTS definitely not worth the extra money to upgrade,
Why not discontinue the EU?....
That’s just common sense. Who needs Communism?
Great video…. for 718 GTS money…I wouldn’t look further than a 981 Spyder…very very special car…All great mid engine cars. Many though will of course be unable to look past a 911 . Shame…they are missing out on some wonderful drivers cars
Stunning and I would love one…but the 981 GTS is the sweet spot of the whole Porsche sports car range…please don’t tell anyone!!!❤
Great video!
The next Boxster / Cayman may be electric, but that certainly doesn’t mean it’s the end, the electric world could completely fall on its face and make a u turn, bio fuels will be the next talking point of the automotive world
Let's hope so!
Got to lucky to could order the last production of the cayman GTS 4.0 so happy with the performance and sound. Electric car have no soul
Which club did you say this drive in Wales was ? Contact details of that club would be handy ?
"It's a real firecracker" Love It🤘😆🤘
GT3 is so special. That song 🎶
Just went on a factory tour of the Porsche factory where they made the 718. Seems no longer making.
I think this decision won't last they will revert their decision, based purely on financials. The boxter/cayman saved porsche from going bust in the 90s, you will always have a certain class of buyers who dont care that its an ev but for the enthusiast they will just continue to buy older porsches driving up the price. This will hurt porsches bottom line. I think we might see this decision reverted in a few years once they realise the evs simply dont sell. look at the price of used taycans right now its through the floor.
Maybe more countries need to leave the EU and then long live the ICE vs 4 wheeled electrical appliances. That 9A2 sounds as good as the 9A1 in my 987.2 Cayman S, long live Mezger Junior.
Maybe just maybe they will add Hyundai Ioniq N tech for simulation of gears and noise?? Just record this car!
Electric Porsche Cayman / Boxer ruins the entire point of owning a Porsche... Prices on the Porches with real engines for sale is going to skyrocket, they are already crazy expencive here with 15 to 25 year old 911 being the least expensive ones for sale . Cayman and to some degree the Boxer is horrible expensive used here.
Where about in wales did you film?
Looks like Rhayader, & north wales near snowdon
I'm wondering how Porsche will continue their legacy of keeping the 911 as the top performing model with how fast in acceleration an EV is. How will a 911 Turbo S owner feel when a base 718 EV blows its doors off from a stop light? Maybe speed no longer matters? I know that I personally derive all of my pleasure from my 996 from rowing the gears and listening to the 3.4L singing out back, ultimately speed doesn't factor in at all... I guess it all goes back to the steak... a microwave can cook a steak in seconds but isn't one slow-cooked on a BBQ grille be a far better experience? Yes. Yes it would. Hard pass for me on EV appliances, Porsche badged or not.
You raise a key point. ICE cars will be the slowest vehicles on the road eventually. Who wants a slow Porsche or Ferrari? Ultimately I think that may spell the end of new ICE sports cars.
I look forward to 718 EV. If Porsche managed to make a 2.5t boat, which is a Taycan, to handle like a sports car, I wonder what they'll do with a dedicated sports car platform. As for the engine... Yeah, I love the 4.0 sound, but the sound or transmission are not the main reasons why I love 718 - it's the handling, the weight distribution, the magical suspension, giga precise steering. This is what makes Porsche a Porsche.
My only concern with EV are the charging, range and battery degradation, maybe weight to some extent.
@@Dragobrath Add huge depreciation to your list of EV concerns, at least for the time being.
Cyber security, bullocks, lol. And for all intents the EV is not a new generation but a whole different car.
At last a valid reason for Brexit!!! 🤣
Is it goodbye for the ICE Cayman for all countries or just EU ? I mean until the end of 2024 since I heard the E-Cayman will come for 2025 or did I get this all wrong ? And ouch, hearing those last seconds of the video is making doubt my 2.0T choice...do late to change now since the car is on it's way; fingers cross.
Porsche is making a catostrophic mistake discontinuing the Cayman/Boxster to make room for EV! People who buys these wont buy an EV
Gotta be happy that the UK left the EU?!! Albeit for a short while anyways.
You should be talking about how to "prevent" such atrocities as trying to get rid of gas powered vehicles by using the power of the "purse" and simply refusing to buy/invest in electric crappy, unemotional golf carts for the street.
Imo of course 😂
FRANCE is the reason for all of this crap.
Wow the first and only positive of Brexit..
I was thinking the same thing 😂
Rubbish!
Ugh! Another example of bureaucrats creating arbitrary rules which eliminate consumer choice. So what problem is this fixing??? A hypothetical hacking scenario? How many actual hackings have occurred?
I think it's so you the owner can't hack it.
The EU needs to end.
Hahahaha
Where there is a will there is a way...
Do not engage in "self fulfilled proficies" by pushing the narrative of EV vehicles for all... no way!
718 EV 😢😢no thanks
Shame comments on this video has been EU and EV bashing.
ok Greta