Public Schools, the Fixation of Belief, and Social Control
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In this video we look at how public schools were developed for the purpose of fixing belief and as a means of social control.
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I remember as kid sitting in school thinking "schooling takes what I love and removes my motivation and interest"
i excelled at everything & graduated with a 4.01 (extra credit) but underneath that I was bored & felt so much time was wasted. If you're lucky you get a teacher that makes the subject exciting & interesting.
I stared out of the window at school
The one thing that stands out now as a 60 years old is the fact that I saw flamingo migration across table bay in cape town. The flamingo is extinct in cape town today. Due to the influx of the human population. Is this progress???
Same probably in Indonesia where humans have displaced the orangutans in the ex jungles that they have replaced with palm oil plantations as far as the eye could see from a light aircraft
I got adhd because I wasn't keen on the nonsense or did I?
Maybe it's a conspiracy to make me think I'm ill to ultimately regain control of my mind by convincing me I'm ill, sneaky.
Had I applied myself, I would of been a straight A student. But I felt no desire to study or even do my own home work, so I slid by with B’s and C’s and the occasional D in math.
"I never let school interfere with my education" - Mark Twain
I am wearing a shirt with those very words printed on the front. I got it in Hannibal
Very, very few people can live up to this. The compulsory education process is extraordinarily powerful and it sorts out those who are not obedient to its dogmatic mandates. Go to any so-called “Alternative” high school and you will find the true geniuses, except they will not perceive themselves that way. They will, in fact, likely perceive themselves quite the opposite. The system has multiple layers built into it that work to break the critical thinkers, and if they cannot be fully broken, they are sorted out and disposed of.
Dennis you are correct. Tsar you are Prussian Ed excrement.
@tzar 1917. I’ll let the irony of you making a condescending comment to me and then two comments later accusing someone of becoming defeated by “retreating to nonsense” explain itself.
Anyhow, what I said wasn’t a logical supposition, it was simply a statement. Along those lines, however, your obedience to the system is duly noted.
“It ain’t what you don’t know that gets you into trouble; it’s what you know for sure that just ain’t so.” Mark Twain (didn't actually say it, but he should have). Group-consensus thinking leads one into the ditch of ignorance....every time. If you want to get a view that thinking-for-oneself can give you, give me a "click"....
Schools just order you to memorise. I found myself interested in learning only after I stopped going to school.
It’s called information dumping. We have computers now and there’s no excuse for information dumping.
That's a bingo ... Kras Silver Fang!
Me Too (but not the same me too).
ME TOO
When I went to college at an older age I think the teachers hated me because I was always asking why and how!
My wife has two teaching degrees, one in Special Ed. She chose to homeschool our 5 children.
It is really sad to see the difference in attitudes from children going into first grade (full of excitement, creativity, enthusiasm, etc. for learning) and young adults graduating high school (I hate my life and I am never going to open a book again). All those years of grinding and beating out all the creativity, curiosity, and enthusiasm for learning.
Exactly! ,the older I got the more unhappy I realized I became.
This is why I homeschool my children. I don't want their light to be burned out. I want that light to grow and be as bright as possible.
More people should homeschool.
Many of us lived it but many do nothing to help end it. I have been trying most of my life to get people to wake up to the lie of public schools. They were so conditioned they just perpetuate it as something good when it was not. I truly hated school from the age of 12. I understood the lie at that point.
High school in the early 70 s . Elected courses , I chose the easiest I could find , no study hall we could hang out in the commons area ( like a mall ) we cold come and go as we pleased . Smoking lounge for all and seniors had our own lounge with couch's and juke box .. 18 was the drinking age .... majored in playing cards and lounging ...... coached at the same school 10 years latter ..... no smoking on school grounds , and hall monitors were replaced with security guards
The best education I received was through conversation dispute years of public school and college.
We should teach our children HOW to think, not WHAT to think.
You dont actually believe that. We should teach both What and How to think, in proper measure. The problem is in what the *What* is, not the teaching of it.
How do we do this? Any tips?
I think that children should be given a glimpse regarding the WHATS, and be taught the HOW to think, so that they can opt for a path of their choice, and excel at it. Both of the whats & hows come from Philosophy, but unfortunately that subject is the most 'underpaid/unwanted' major at undergrad level, so this implementation I have suggested should be at the secondary/high school levels.
Like me, they may suffer, because not conforming is punished. I always thought my name had to be on a list somewhere as to “not to hire this person”. I was highly qualified and when someone did give me a chance I proved to be worthy of their risk. My point is, I was not college but educated and many better paying jobs are conditioned to hire someone with degrees and letters by their name. Which really only proves how well they conform to an authoritative figure
the establishment won't allow that since they see it as a threat.
If I had to describe my entire childhood in two words, they would be "wasted potential".
Bullseye
I agree. For me school, high school and university were a nightmare.
I was voted most rebellious. I was nearly kicked out of graduation because I suggested for our class song, "wasting my time"... I simply explained to the teachers it was my graduation, not theirs, so my input must be considered!
I always wag school.. stealing cigarettes and spending time at the beach with my girls is better than school hours.... because I love anatomy...
The good old days ..
Same here.
I turned my back on public schools when my grandson in second grade was being ignored by an old bat who played favorites. His parents agreed and we moved him to a private school that was great until the headmaster retired and one from California took over. What a waste of money. They literly let bullies run the school. So we went to home schooling. Which allowed for him to developed his love for fixing things. Computers became is love and he can just about fix almost anything on it. Later he developed enjoyment in building things and fixing broken things and making them better. After he graduated he worked with his grandfather building 5 speed transmissions for mo par cars. Which he still does today. Eventually in his spare time he rebuilds Nissan cars. I have enjoyed watching him develop into a well rounded man. I am so glad his parents moved him to home schooling, it saved their child from the brain numbing public schools. As far as I am concerned his parents are ROCK STARS!
Great! That is always in need since Nissan are poopie cars
"When I think back
On all the crap I learned in high school
It's a wonder
I can think at all..." Paul Simon....American poet and musician
I love Paul Simon. Thanks.
I gotta Nikon camera,
I love to take a photograph,
So Mama don't take my Kodochrome awayyyyy😜😜😜
"Teachers leave those kids alone, All in all it's just another brick on the wall"... [Pink Floid].
Floyd
@Jack Van Berg You would be very hard pressed to find any life view that hasn't been echoed in some stoner's song somewhere. Think for yourself and tackle the ideas, not the source. It will temper that hubris of yours with what's called "epistemic humility."
@Jack Van Berg Most of the best songs were written while on drugs. Millions of songs make a whole lot more sense when you're stoned.
I think you mean another brick in the wall, not another brick on the wall?
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George Carlin, in one of his later performances that I recall, said that children should be "taught to ask questions, not to obey". An attitude very much like that represented in this video.
Yeah, and he's not here now with us a--suffering with those obnoxious brats ! These millenials are "Heads in the Sands" with their focus on the I--Phone --- 57 minutes out of every hour ! BUT YEAH, CARLIN WAS "BITCHIN' " !!
Um.... What's wrong with teaching them to ask questions *and* obey?
"taught to ask questions"
That's basically an oxymoron. If you're teaching someone to ask questions and they do, then they're already obeying you. Or at the very least they're obeying their own impulses and will likely become rebellious, distrustful and even nihilistic. It will breakdown society as we're seeing right now.
@Adi Krieg Right. If Carlin had been truly 'free thinking' he never would have been allowed on a stage. He'd have become a pariah and been censored and ostracized by the media and authorities. Not that being an outcast automatically makes you an independent thinker, but independence necessarily involves a degree of defiance and thus reciprocal rejection by those with vested interests in the status quo and your compliance with established norms.
Carlin had some good insights about the absurdities of modern western culture. But his critiques don't equate to an absolute invalidation of the many aspects of our culture. Fact is we still live more comfortably than any other people in history. That's got to count for something.
Plus socialism is even more of a cultural poison than capitalism in nearly every widespread application that's been recorded.
Children asking questions prevent the elders from loosing memory.
Teach a child what to think and you can control them for the whole of their lives.
Teach a child how to think and you wont have to.
Quotable.
I attended a private school that actually taught independent thought. We were given the accurate account of history good, bad and ugly. We came to our own conclusions. When I left because of financial problems I transferred to a Public school in 10th grade and was given books that I already had in 6th grade in the former private school.
Wow!
Yet school defenders swear that private and charter schools are “killing” public school. Umm, I’m pretty sure public school makes itself look really bad without any help at all.
“Dumbing Us Down,” by John Taylor Gatto, is a great expose of that kind of thing.
I did enjoyed going to the charter grade school when my sister and I were younger, even though it was around Chinatown in our city.
EXCELLENT comment
As a child I hated school , teachers would bully the students and discipline those of us who question their narratives . My teachers to be truthfully where my uncles and Grandparents . As I grew older I away listen to eccentrics and old scholars . They always encourage me to think for myself . I am 63 years old now and have been a free thinker for most of that time . I have never stop learning and will never stop . To much to learn , so little time to do so in this lifetime . Here's to the next life , to start were I left off . I yearn for the moment when all my knowledge and wisdom comes together ! .
Growing up, I was a quite kid who kept to himself and loved to write, draw and found I was really good at playing music. No one ever taught me that I could continue doing these things at a university or that I could possibly make a living doing it. Instead, I was taught to get a job, maybe with the local Hallmark factory, keep drawing, and maybe someone would notice me. It was years later that I realized what some of my options were but I had put up my pen and paper and chased after a good paying job.
Now, many more years later, I refuse to allow my children to travel a similar path. We are "unschoolers" for the most part and even at a young age, our kids are showing signs of critical thinking beyond their peers. My oldest taught himself to read and his sister is beginning to do the same. We act as facilitators to their curiosity and help guide them (as any parent should) down an educational path that satisfies this and occasionally try to spark new inspirations within them.
It is hard and very time consuming but I can't see letting the public school system oversee this in a manner that is healthy and right.
Jacob Russell I feel you :(
If only MORE parents would seem to stop the cycle. SALUTE!
Thank you for contributing to the betterment of mankind! We need more people who are willing to break away from the rigidity of the regime such as yourself.
It's great that you're raising your kids in a way so that they don't repeat your mistakes, but don't give up on yourself. You are not dead and there is no age limit for going after what you love and believe in. It's not over until it's over.
I plan on homeschooling my future children, although I’m worried because I’ve heard of cases where they’re jailing parents for homeschooling now! It’s insanity but I pray they don’t outlaw it completely by the time I have kids.
I dropped out of school...I thought I failed so I went to College..
And dropped out again after realising I had succeeded the first time 😂😅✊
It depends on the reason you dropped out though. If it was because you thought school was holding you back then you should drop out. If you dropped out to play video games, get high, or do something else that is a waste of time, then that’s bad.
@@Steven-gs8oh exactly, whether he falls into that self aggrandizing and slothful population or not - there are many people that do, upholding their shortcomings as success and failure as victory, claiming that they actively chose to not see things through to the end but without replacing that structure with any other meaningful endeavor.
I A friend who has two daughters grown over the oldest went to school all the time got great grades. The younger that’s cool half the time but has a critical thinking. The former things like a indoctrinated leftist, the younger things for herself.
@@jmzsil Did you just learn english or something?😂 I’m joking.
@@Steven-gs8oh you seem to be very educated, probably a perfect employee. I have a position available for you, would you like a JOB?
Public school will never give children the weapons to dismantle the public system. Such is why alternative/supplemental education from home is a massive advantage. The greatest thing my parents did was make me read every day and have discussions driven by our interests. They encouraged and bolstered both independent thinking and creativity. Don't let it stop at school.
Well now I know why school felt like prison to me.
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Don't the walls of a school remind you of a prison? :/
My dream was acting.but my 'Teacher' tried to quell that and tell me I'll be a failure if I don't know Algebra, science etc. "Speak for yourself" I replied.
I even shared this meme in 2015 lol
Many times I just broke in school. I revealed deep thoughts and people just scoffed or thought how pathetic this is. Now the truth makes me angry and I guess rightfully so. Everyone else I went to school with is doing better than me when it comes to making something of themselves. I did reveal through middle school that I didn’t want a future because I was so stressed and began hitting on girls. I contemplated suicide many times throughout high school too. So when I finished I was like, “jeez now what am I supposed to do? Cuz I really don’t want to do anything now.”
One of my favorite Bertrand Russell phrases makes a total reference to this video.
"Men are born ignorant, not stupid. They are made stupid by educación."
I’m so thankful my parents saw the writing on the wall in the 80’s and homeschooled. I pass on that gift to mine today.
I dropped out of school almost 25 years ago and it was a great descision in retrospect. It made life harder for a while but by the time the rest of my cohort finished their educations I was waaay ahead of them in both work and life experience. My complete lack of formal education did not really make much of a difference relative to my success. The hustle I went through to survive without credentials helped me develop skills quickly and at no great financial cost, meaning every dollar I earned was shared only with the government and not some parasitic bank holding my loan. I always saw life as one long apprenticeship. I was hired many times over the years based on charisma and work ethic alone and am convinced that with luck added in as a third leg, that's pretty much all one needs to succeed in this world. And think of all the nonsense I don't have to unlearn now as I was never formally indoctrinated. Be the person people come to for new ideas when they find themselves in a crisis of imagination and you will always have work. Keep your mind flexible and open at all times and try as many things as possible. That's an education if you ask me.
Factory model of schooling is very old but in recent decades there is also a factory model of university.
Maybe so, but instead of turning out graduates capable of performing in useful professions, University's turn out spineless, sub cultural conformists that seek to destroy western society and replace it with neo-communist fascism.
@@dannygreen7473 You are right!
@@rohankale1000 You are so right.
@@dannygreen7473 so true.
I wish I could Like this video ten times over.
The great WWII scholar in the comments of the great Philosopher! Greatly blessed, I am, to stumble upon this! It is no wonder you provide such superb educational content! (And for free!)
I hate public schooling..hmm..
But I hate private religious beliefs system schooling more worse..
Private school are a ripped off.
Love seeing you here, TIK.
Schooling shouldn't be a forced child learning affair but the infrastructure needs for learning must be there at all times for any children that have a genuine desire and thirst for knowledge..
Hmmm.. more logical and free will that way.
After all when future workers will be that of artificial intelligence and repetitive machines and future world economy will shift from capitalistic economic model to socialist of wealth distribution systems it make sense to implement education and it's freedom..hmmm
How I wish I could repay this generosity you've shown. I'm a young man from Eswatini, a small kingdom in southern Africa. The effects of public schools and this education in general have been felt here too. As a people we are just lazy and uninspired to be creative or original, we lack motivation to start businesses and just improve our own lives. It's sad to see but and these videos have helped me a lot personally, especially in dealing with my anxiety and other past underlying issues. I've tried spreading your channel but only few care enough. Anyway thank you Academy of Ideas, I'll be sure to make a change this side
Whoever taught you to write English so well, certainly did something right, good luck in your life and God bless you.
@@boatybear1013 Eswatini (used to be called Swaziland) is an English speaking country, because they're used to be a British colony. So just because they're from Africa doesn't mean they don't speak your language, besides English is the most common language spoken in this planet so please don't be too surprised about it. It just shows how ignorant you are
@@fanxy.
God forbid someone is kind and complimentary to another human being. I would have assumed a person from Africa would also speak primarily an African language. How DARE we! Responses like yours make social media a cesspool.
@@zenyattamondatta7757 First, there is no such thing called "African language". Because "Africa" is a CONTINENT, with a lot of different people and cultures in it, it's like saying Europeans speaks "European language" which is stupid in every way possible.
Second, if pointing out people's ignorance on the internet makes you feeling like it's a "cesspool", then me seeing a person who thinks ignorance are okay and those who tried to corrected other people mistake is consider "not kind" makes me feels like hypocrites human being are just a whole piece of shit.
@@fanxy.
Lol looks like you need to go back to English class. Do a little editing on this and we'll try again.
I remember when Willow Smith (Will Smith's daughter) went to public school and said she understands why kids are depressed and suicidal.
Haa the fear of failing is drilled into our brain from elementary to college. It is sickening that me that this is how our education is. We have to change it or the world is doomed to die.
@@savagegentlemen1071 my fear of failing destroyed me, like my inner self, like picking away at my self worth with each passing year in school, I was lied to that grades were everything, they are nothing
It's not until I got older that I realized failing is how you learn and get good at things, we penalize our kids so hard for failing that they become paralyzed by the fear of it - they don't take any risks and become indecisive and mediocre. We should use those failures as a way to encourage adaptability and self confidence in trying new things, not as the ultimate detriment where they will receive a continuous level of negative reinforcement.
I hated my School, we were treated like Animals. Girls and boys were separated from each other(this is an Indian private school), teachers used corporal punishment and harshly criticized us for our mistakes. Then in high school it was all about studying all the time for the competitive exams. School was the worst experience in my life however there were some good teachers but the whole system as you said is designed to enslave us.
Rohan Kale sorry to hear about ur experience, its really sad how our true selves have been wipe out from childhood due to people telling use what we are capable of etc
Rohan Kale Discipline is necessary for a child,stop being a whiney little bitch
Oh really? I guess that's the reason why more and more western countries have put laws against corporal punishment. I went through a childhood of constant corporal punishment, and let me tell you, as an adult, if i could give my father the Lament Configuration off Hellraiser, I most certainly would. You're insecure enough about your own beliefs on the matter to call out someone who was stressing their school grievances online... to a post that was 6 months old. That's pathetic. What does that say about you? That means, the only whiny (and insecure) little bitch is you.
But you went to a private school so you can stfu
@a guy drop out
Once I am done with school the real education begins
Wise
I learned to be a nurse when I started practicing it
...And keeps changing..
After I graduated from high school a new high school was built in my town. My friends and I would drive past the new building and comment how it looked like a prison. Found out later the blueprints for the school were prison blueprints.
I always thought of school as prison. I used to sit in class and draw pictures of the school as a prison.
ever wonder why growing food is not part of indoctrination system...
the most basic needs of human life aren't taught, hence all the hippies running around...
in Austria there are schools that specialise on growing food
The purpose of public school is not to teach anything useful. The purpose is to serve the interests of the teachers unions.
@@Maryland_Kulak lol where are you from? To me that sounds like imagination land..
@@8curious in the usa, teachers unions trump everything. It's one of the most corrupt organizations this side of the law
When I was in high school, I was in government class and I was arguing, why should I volunteer to pay taxes. What will happen to me if I don't wish to volunteer to pay taxes. The teacher and all the students yelled at me, yhou have to pay your taxes. I said, then it's not volunteering, I am forced to pay taxes. Then why does the IRS lie to us and say paying taxes is by volunteer only.
How the ancients intended philosophy to be... To aid and cultivate an individual through life.
That's why it will never be a dead science, as so many seem to think.
What ever happened to Socrates? Oh, that's right, hemlock.
It’s amazing how many teachers fancy themselves to be rebels allied against the state and established institutions when, in fact, their methods and goals are lockstep with government authority and conformity.
I was always in trouble for staring out the window and being a million miles away. Reports always were I need to apply myself and be present in the classroom. I like that they blame being easily distracted on the student and not deem it a reflection on the mindless, unimaginitave drone that is teaching. I am very glad I didn't let them kill my desire for knowledge and critical thought. Although they did try!
They asked us what we want to be when we grow up... then tried to mold us into what they wanted us to be.. I never liked school, always knowing it wasn’t right. Never listened, and missed many days. Even as a young dude, i faked allot of earaches my mom eventually let me walk my own path. Love your channel bro. Keep inspiring. 💚🙏✌️🌱✊ we are NOW!!! rainbow starseeds becoming star flowers. 💚
I was a very depressed and upset kid when I couldn't understand why we all had to be forced to be somewhere none of us wanted to be until I got my first computer and researched about it. Back then there wasn't much information online but I definitely read what I already knew. All about control and efficiency of currency.
Millions need to see this. I learned more out of school than I ever did in it. I hated school. I've tried explaining a lot of the ideas represented here but get most people repeating the standard indoctrination message. The narrator sounds like Kieth Thompson. Thanks.
From first years of life(4-5) you go to kindergarden from 8 to 11/12 every day. When you got 7 years you go to school from 8 to 12-1 every day. When you have 16-17 you go to highschool from 8 to 2/3 am every day. In college there are days that you stay 10 hours. In all these years you got alot of homework so you spend your majority of active life in school. After that you get a job at least 8 hours per day with traffic etc, maybe 10 hours per day. And we live in freedom. Nice
I remember that I had serious problems with school mostly due to me being so stubborn and always wanting to follow my own heart, ideologies and creativity. In fact, I remember when they told me that I was good at drawing but that I should be good at other stuff as well, and then actively worked against my desire to expand myself in what I wanted and yearned for.
Education should also teach us how to ask questions and critically think. The Prussian Indoctrination System aimed to teach students just enough to run the machines, but not enough to question authority...
"I want a nation of workers, not of thinkers" John D. Rockefeller.
This is gold. Indeed the most machiavellian plots are always right in front of our eyes.
As someone that was home educated this was blindingly obvious when I joined College...
As a sensitive child, and then an emotional guy, I can surely say that school was one of the biggest traumas in my life and continues to affect my life as of the 26 year old me, still unable to find balance in work or trust myself with any intellectual work.
The pain that I felt when repeatedly told I was an idiot, the fear of not passing exams and studying for hours only to bring low marks was too much to bear. Because I was studying for knowledge, and not for passing exams.
I had deep depression and was unable to function because of school, but I pushed through it with sheer force of will. At the cost of later repercussions, of course, that I'm dealing with now. A complete life burnout.
Great 20s, eh.
You have started to educate yourself, what is great.
That was a very well delivered comment.You are smart.
Hang in there...
🌻56 year old.🤕🤕🤕
Same 😢
This is why I plan on homeschooling my future children.
My wife has two teaching degrees, one in Special Ed. She (we) chose to homeschool our 5 children. They're all grown free spirited thinkers doing what they want, not told what they want.
@@alwagner9722 is a teaching degree required if I’m going to homeschool my children? Do you know?
@@booksboundnoveljourneys1122 absolutely not required. You can order work books online and do online workshops too. A caring parent is required though....
@@alwagner9722 now, that I can be.
I spent most of my elementary school and middle school staring at a concrete wall in "detention"
Yeah, it truly is sad how failing in school tends to demoralize kids more and more. I was a mediocre/poor student until mid high school. I HATED being around my fellow students as they got great grades or having to bring my Cs, Ds, or Fs to my parents.
It is amazing how many sources you use in your videos. Could you cite them in the description? It might lead to some good reading.
Steve mamo no
ando erazo Yes, those quotes are all from Gatto's book. see Johntaylorgatto.com
In the description, there is a link after "Get the transcript" text, Visit that link
“Dumbing us Down” by John Taylor Gatto
“General Education Board” (1903) by Fredrick Taylor Gates
“The philosophy of education” by William Torrey Harris
“Raising a school” by Rena Uptis
The essay “fixation of belief” by Charles Sanders Pierce
“Public School Administration” by Ellwood Cubberley
Thanks for asking. Here is the list of my books:
Education in a Free Society, Benjamin Rogge, 1973 (Government should never be involved in education)
The Underground History of American Education, 2006 John Taylor Gatto
Weapons of Mass Instruction, 2009 John Taylor Gatto
Dumbing Us Down, 2002 John Taylor Gatto
The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America, Charlotte Iserbyt, 1999 (On-line version. Book may be on Amazon)
Who Controls American Education?, 1968 James Koerner
NEA, Trojan Horse in American Education, 1984 Samuel Blumenfeld.
Educating for the “New World Order, 1991 Beverly Eakman
Cloning of the American Mind, Eradicating Morality Through Education, 1998 Beverly Eakman
Credentialed to Destroy, How and Why Education Became A Weapon, 2013 Robin Eubanks
Child Abuse in the Classroom, Phyllis Schlafly, 1984 Hearings on the Protection of Pupil Rights (Emotional conditioning; students forced to reveal personal info about family lives)
Walking Targets: How Our Psychologized Classrooms Are Producing a Nation of Sitting Ducks, 2007 Beverly Eakman
Compulsory Mis-Education and The Community of Scholars, 1964 Paul Goodman
Summerhill, A Radical Approach to Child Rearing,1960 Alexander S. Neill, (School in England)
How Children Learn, 1964, 1982 John Holt, retired teacher
How Children Fail,1964, 1982 John Holt, retired teacher
How Children Succeed, 2012 Paul Tough
Building Resilience in Children and Teens, 2011 Kenneth R. Ginsburg, MD
The Parents We Mean to Be, How Well-Intentional Adults Undermine Children’s Moral and Emotional Development, 2009, Richard Weissbourd, EdD (Doctor of Education), psychologist
Experience & Education, 1968 John Dewey
How We Think, John Dewey
The School and Society, John Dewey
Democracy and Education, 1916 John Dewey
Shameful Admissions, The Losing Battle to Serve Everyone in Our Universities, 1996 Angela Browne-Miller
Human Nature and Conduct, An Introduction To Social Psychology, 1921, 2012 John Dewey
I was kicked out of middle and high school, perhaps that's why I am a free thinker, and find TH-cam channels like this one to be my choice for my character development and education!
The more perspective I get on what school is really about, the less shame I feel about graduating at the bottom of my high school class. I always hated school.
Amen
Failing at public education means you succeeded to survive it's indoctrination. Well done. I was pulling a B+ average doing little to no work (Never did Homework) and no effort. It made some of my teachers upset. I did well in the subjects I had a real interest in though.
@@dmfour-- Yeah, it must be my personality and my lifelong tendency to question everything that has had me pretty indoctrination-proof, for as long as I can remember.
However I'm mystified how anyone can do no homework and still have a B+ average. I'd guess my grades averaged down to a C-minus. That said, at the end of my senior year I DID manage to pull a B in a biology class I'd literally slept through the entire year. That's because I shared one of my favorite hobbies in class at the end of the school year; a slide show of Monarch caterpillars I'd housed & fed, and photographed going through their metamorphosis into butterflies. That made a big hit with the teacher and earned me a B, in a class I'd otherwise have flunked.... and it saved me from not graduating!
Dumbing Us Down is an excellent book, great video!
This was an amazing and enlightening video. Thank you! I taught for 12 years in a reading lab for struggling readers in elementary school and when Common Core was adopted I saw it as the end of childrens thought processes and creativity. Teachers became robots. Very sad state our schools are in.
Not knowing Anything of this subject except for what I've gathered here, it seems to me that certain agendas have been at work a Long Time but of which two men's ideas I've found to be most appealing and leaning toward a honest and actual 'learning' of what it seems would produce a more beneficial and productive experience for the students of their generations to have been fortunate enough to have experienced, unless I've missed something about them not mentioned in the time allotted for this Excellent short video. Those two were Martin Luther and John Taylor Gatto whose ideas would match my own.
But then there was the "Frankfurt School" (Not mentioned here) that emerged in America after transporting (escaped really) their Demonic selves here from Germany after having fled that Nation (Unfortunately for America and the World itself) in the Early 1930's. Their Agenda was Destruction and the opposite of the two I previously mentioned, and was certainly and Definitely Evil. Here is a post I like to send out when the opportunity presents itself so others may have a idea as to what it, the Frankfurt School, was and it's 'Founders" truly intended and it is a Great, short work of just under 29 minutes. Please have a look at it here:
This should be shown in Every school in America and Europe, Australia, Canada and New Zealand beginning in First Grade through College. This is how these Luciferian Scum slithered in and poisoned our Societies and who 'they' were and still are:
"The Architects of Western Decline: A Study on the Frankfurt School and Cultural Marxism" th-cam.com/video/L6l0JL6loXc/w-d-xo.html
If it has been removed by TH-cam as has been their practice when the true culprit(s) of Evil are identified, just type in the title because somebody else who lives in the truth will have uploaded it again.
"Very sad state our schools are in." ...you mean the exact state they were intended to be in?
Finally getting my education at nearly 40 I felt an odd intimacy with this one. I, as crazy as it sounds, but nothing could be more true, was so emotionally and psychologically neglected growing up that school was like a get-away for me. I had free time with other kids to play, teachers who showed me affection to some degree and the lessons were very interesting from time to time. I was good at learning and showing off what I could retain. The teachers, not the standards they were forced into funneling us curriculum through were really what made it a sanctuary for me growing up. I had a great springboard to continue from throughout life. This last year full bloom into the exact definition Gatto described, and for that, I am grateful.
I have learned more information on my own, than in any school/uni, I have been saying this for a while, instead of finding the individuals strengths, and providing them with the most, they cut you down and force you to be as dumb as the rest. Makes sense why questioning authority and being creative are so shunned, yet ignorance is prasied and even rewarded.
As long as people like us walk the earth, the ones in charge are grabbing at straws to figure out what to do. We are coming for you! And our intelligence is far beyond your capacity, we have ideas and creations, you have nightmares about. We don't conform and we don't give up. Once this wall of indoctrination is broken, they will scatter like the roaches they are. To question isn't to defy, it's to gain a broader understanding of our reality, all while they try to push the narrative "greater good"
While we burn them alive, we will be singing songs of defiance.
When i was younger my dad was in the military and traveled europe extensively,when we returned in 68 i was greatly disappointed and continually got on trouble on school for knowing mpre than teachers pn cettain subjects and questioning things i felt were not making sense
Good for you! That's what you should have done.
+1 Excellent video!!!
The funny part is that most people simply does not accept this and fight very intensively that they are not being indoctrinated at school.
You know what they say "Its easier to lie to people than to convince them that they've been lied to"
I've spent my entire adulthood undoing the damage done by school in the 60s. Don't let anyone bs you. Small town schools are just as bad if not worse the big city schools.👿
Ole school:
K-12
Baby sitting
Maybe learn 3 “R’s”
Hopefully make some friends
Hopefully stimulate further interests
New school:
Group think
Deduction:
Home school
People are so afraid of individualism because it breeds "umepathic, selfish people". The school system wants us to all think the same and that having different ideas is wrong and that you need to challenge those who have different ideas from yours, rather than accept and learn from it. Can't tell you how many times I got into fights with people who believe they are so smart because the school system has lead them to the this dillusion that because they are the smartest kid in class, they will go on to be "successful" and do great things. Look at where they are now! Minimum wage jobs. Married at 21, with 2 children under the age of 5. Thinking they are happy when in reality, they're probably dead inside (but we're all dead inside). Then there's me, ADHD, and told I'm dumb because of my ADHD since kindergarten. Went through school thinking I was dumb, but it wasn't til I was an adult that I found out that I was actually smart. Sad. It took doing research and attending college to force me to realize that I'm smart. I still believe I'm dumb becuase the public school system has made me BELIEVE that I'm dumb. The public school system breed dumb sheeple, but also ruins the self-esteem of bright students, leading these bright young minds to believe they're stupid or dumb.
learning doesn't require teaching
Says this guy who knows how to read and write because of some teacher.
Emm, kids really do need a teacher to teach them how to read.
By the time I was in 1st grade I had taught myself how to read, believe it or not.
I learned to read before school
It requires a bit of teaching from yourself.
Thank you for this wonderful video. I sadly am watching my grandchildren going through the same institutions that deadened my, and my sons enthusiasm for life.
Awesome! Or should I say an outrageous sin. First hand experience , was always in trouble in school. As time went on, Learned to love learning of course. And still do. But of the things of my own personal interest. Always try to encourage unique individuality. And not by means of physical appearance. (consumerism )Just spiritually within and so forth thank you for sharing this. Very educational. Keep up the great work and have a beautiful day. Jim
I am so glad that we home schooled our son and kept him out of the brainwashing cycle. He has grown into a smart, independent, critical thinker that is doing well for himself. I hope more take that route.
how to fix public schools
a) non-compulsory
b) abolish teacher unions
c) students are allowed to choose which schools they go to based on individual performance
d) get rid of standardized tests
One of my favorite videos of yours. As someone who tried not to let his "schooling" get in the way of his *education* this video is greatly appreciated
Now i understand why i felt as if i were in prison when i was in grades K-12.
I had a lot of trouble at school and never went to college. Got a degree in chemistry and went on to get a PhD in organic chemistry, study what you love, not what they tell you to.
I really love your channel.
If it didnt exist, I probably would have tried to create it myself, but there is no way I would have done such a great job.
Thank you!
Stop doubting yourself, you are more powerful than what they would have you believe. YOU are a being of light and love having a human experience. So you see.......you are very smart and beautiful and powerful. Now stop doubting and start believing in you. Everytime you doubt you betray your soul who is the only true friend you have.
@@tavoiaiono7885 It's difficult to get past being lied to our entire lives. To come to the realization that the current world indoctrinates people from birth into the system of Modern Day Slavery. How do we over come this?
Please, make one yourself too. We need more material like this!
Shocked you didn't mention Chomsky: "education is enforced indoctrination".
because he's a *right-wing libertarian*
@@schmidteymcqueen1316 "right-wing libertarian"
too. much. finance. “alt-right pipeline”
@@schmidteymcqueen1316 socialist with anarchist characteristics (he expresses alot of anarchist views but is in favour of a state)
too. much. finance. ooooh no no no I might academy of ideas guy not chomsky
this channel is fantastic. What is crazy is when I was in school getting certified in this system we had to study this. It was made clear to us that this system was outdated and we learned only negative things about it.
THEN we were certified in it and sent out into it to be a part of it. It took me all of two years to be completely unable to be a part of it anymore. --Season from Poe Movies
This is probably the single most important video people will never see
It's incredible how quickly people are changing and learning now. I love academy of ideas. :)
I forgot almost everything I have been taught in public school.
Most of my teachers didn't like me, I was "trouble" and they had no hope for me (having high GCSE grades, this was in UK if anyone wondering) me and my friend were "punk rock" so they gave up with even giving us detention. I never tried, then got to the final exams and even beat some of the "nerds" getting my results. Most science questions were just "common sense" than science.
When I was in public school, I just took the opportunity to learn everything I can for free, and I also ignored the teachers because they were kind of brainwashed
I have become addicted to this channel.
I thought the dullness of schoolbuildings was to keep the costs low.
thijsjong Good point. My father used to manage commercial construction projects and he always used to say that he hardly even needed to talk to schools about design decisions because he knew that the only option considered in every scenario was cost. They would absolutely scrape the bottom of the barrel to save every last penny even if it meant tremendous decreases in quality and high long term maintenance fees.
That’s the case because improving the mental health of their students isn’t seen as valuable and therefore investing money in more visually appealing architectural designs is no longer a worthy investment because the improved mental health has no perceived value, and therefore from the perspective of public educators it’s an investment that results in a net loss in value.
hahahahaha
Checkout Paul Joseph Watson on why modern architecture sucks!
Eye opener. 🤗
It's utilitarian.
As a teacher, we have to start encouraging individuality inside our classrooms
A year has gone by. Did you start yet?
Need to start? Teachers should have done that a long time ago!
My chemistry teacher actually told me and my classmates not to 'groupthink' in class(when classmates act the same way without any individual thoughts).
I did chatted with the chemistry teacher whenever possible.
Individuality is incompatible with compulsion. As a spirited pupil said to John Holt, when he forced her to attend French classes against her will : I'll go, but it's only brute force that's making me go, only brute force. And the scales fell from his eyes. Yes, it's only brute force, in other words, sheer bullying and oppression. The pupils who thrive in school are the ones who submit to this.
Good teachers are hard to find.
I had seen a documentary a few years ago, even before your video that covered more or less from the factory model forward. It was neat to see how far back this modern day school method has been rooted in the idea of control and indoctrination from the start. Wonderful additions for my own understanding. Great video!
“It is no coincidence that governments everywhere want to educate children. Government education in turn is supposed to be evidence of the states goodness and concern for our well-being.
The real explanation is less flattering.
If the governments propaganda can take root as the children grow up, those kids will be no threat to the stain apparatus.
They’ll fasten the chains to their own ankles. “
Lew Rockwell of The Von Mises Institute
Academy of Ideas, just wanted to let you know that you are one of the best channels out there and keep up the good work, hopefully people smarten up and start watching these incredibly informational videos! Much respect ✊
Academy Of Ideas is one of the best channels on YT hands down. This is what real education looks like. You definitely live up to the name. Thank you.
It is really a shame because my whole K-12 Experience was me trying to move forward and getting started with harder material but brought down by my teachers and forced to stay inside the pack and follow the curriculum, I couldn’t be Homeschooled because of Financial problems and when I even requested to be separated from the Class and be put in a room to work alone… I was called crazy and a madman.
The ruling class want everybody to be the lowest common denominator, as the public won't be a threat to their hegemony & the status quo.
I am happy to be one of those very few who could not be indoctrinated completely, and I have been working towards being a true individual once again, as I was in grade 3.
"No! You are not the boss of me!"
:)
school is not about indoctrination, it lays out knowledge which can be helpful for your future. All this talk about being indoctrinated is bs. You learn things that make you more knowledgeable and perhaps more intelligent. You yourself can choose what to believe in and what interests you in order to become a part of society - the best scenario would be if you find a job that suits your tastes/talents/skills. School has become so much better and student-oriented in the last decades. I don't see any indoctrination there.
@@8curious People are born with intelligence, and some of them do not need anyone to teach them, they are perfectly capable of learning anything they want or need to know, on their own. Others are born with a lack of intelligence, and follow insane and immoral orders without morality or questions.
School does teach important things such as following orders, recognizing and obeying perceived authority figures, the need to be led through lessons. And the list goes on and on...
yeah, school's good for teaching kids basic stuff, like how to read, do arithmetic, geography. I'd argue that learning when to shut up and listen is not a bad thing either. Recognizing there's authority, that is to be respected, but definitely not feared. This is where it usually fails. Another thing where it fails is in teaching stuff like history and social science, the stuff that are open to interpretation, cause that's when pushing one version of the story that fits the state's ideas happens.
compared to the outcome (no real skills) we do waste so much time in school.
thank you for an informative video
Great work. Please keep it up.
I was schooled in Poland in late 80s through the 90s . Moved to Ireland in 2007.
Early years of my education were just that. Factory schooling and transition from learning unless Russian language. Preparing us for meaningless jobs. Every class finished and started with a sharp noise of electric buzz. Same one used in factories acknowledging start and finish of the working shift.
Recognising it ,as well thanks to your videos, makes me angry just for how much time and talents were and still is wasted in this system.
Not knowing Anything of this subject except for what I've gathered here, it seems to me that certain agendas have been at work a Long Time but of which two men's ideas I've found to be most appealing and leaning toward a honest and actual 'learning' of what it seems would produce a more beneficial and productive experience for the students of their generations to have been fortunate enough to have experienced, unless I've missed something about them not mentioned in the time allotted for this Excellent short video. Those two were Martin Luther and John Taylor Gatto whose ideas would match my own.
But then there was the "Frankfurt School" (Not mentioned here) that emerged in America after transporting (escaped really) their Demonic selves here from Germany after having fled that Nation (Unfortunately for America and the World itself) in the Early 1930's. Their Agenda was Destruction and the opposite of the two I previously mentioned, and was certainly and Definitely Evil. Here is a post I like to send out when the opportunity presents itself so others may have a idea as to what it, the Frankfurt School, was and it's 'Founders" truly intended and it is a Great, short work of just under 29 minutes. Please have a look at it here:
This should be shown in Every school in America and Europe, Australia, Canada and New Zealand beginning in First Grade through College. This is how these Luciferian Scum slithered in and poisoned our Societies and who 'they' were and still are:
"The Architects of Western Decline: A Study on the Frankfurt School and Cultural Marxism" th-cam.com/video/L6l0JL6loXc/w-d-xo.html
If it has been removed by TH-cam as has been their practice when the true culprit(s) of Evil are identified, just type in the title because somebody else who lives in the truth will have uploaded it again.
This reminds a interview i saw in Greece when a school teacher was debating with the minister of education. And the teacher was saying that the Greeks independence is full of lies and is nothing how it happened and kids should learn history as it is. And the minister turned to him and said, “ careful of your words or you will be considered as a traitor, schools should teach kids what the government wants not as it is and who does the opposite will be a traitor to the nation. That should tell you how schools works!
WOW!! No less than this: my eyes are now open! Incredible content. Thank you.
Everyone seems to be asking of schools to teach innovation, social skills and similar abstract, high minded, and vaguely defined goals.
However, think about the fact that everyone in our society know how to read, write, count money, etc. This was not the case for most of the human history. Maybe schools should focus on some bare minimum competence in individuals, and leave creativity and curiosity to individuals themselves.
Mirza Borogovac great point. There's also a huge lack of well defined methods for cultivating something as complex as creativity or inspiration. It's a genuine thought, but is it even possible? I wasn't taught to be inspired, I simply was, so it's like, where do you go from there to teaching a million kids something we don't even understand ourselves lol
Children are naturally creative and inspired. I think it's quite apparent that the rigidity and systematization of compulsory schooling inhibits the creativity of children. You don't need to "teach" people to be inspired, you need to give them enough freedom (with some guidance) to follow their own inspiration.
"However, think about the fact that everyone in our society know how to read, write, count money, etc. This was not the case for most of the human history."
Actually in early American literacy rates were quite high, and there was no compulsory schooling.
"Maybe schools should focus on some bare minimum competence in individuals, and leave creativity and curiosity to individuals themselves.
And yes, schools sure do focus on minimum competence. They take you for your 15 or so most formative years, stick you in a class room for 8 hours of the day for most of the year, and only teach you "minimal competence". That's factory schooling for you.
towardsthesun If you're right, then you need to explain to me how some kids, I would include myself, can go through K-12 Public Education and STILL maintain their creative drive? Also, I wouldn't call children "creative" or "inspired" as their natural born state of being, curious, absolutely, but those attributes you stated are more goal oriented and very few children I know come into this world with a goal. Rather by being curious they able to find a worthy goal and THEN proceed to be inspired by it, at least that's how I figure.
+Matthew Morton I think there's a tendency to inhibit creativity and inspiration in public schooling, but obviously some people retain it in spite of schooling. And yes, maybe calling children naturally curious is a better way of putting it - but being curious almost invariably leads to creativity, if the individual sticks to a certain topic or goal for a given amount of time.
A very good essay, well researched and well presented. One of many you have produced. Thank you.
Thank heavens for public schools. Sitting in your house in the woods back when after doing chore to learn from only a parent or perhaps a relative with limitations...no child would have learned as much about the world.
Every video essay of yours is a masterpiece. Congratulations on a job well done, and thank you for everything.
Wow! You made me look at compulsory schooling with other eyes. I thought that kind of my education was a great achievement for humankind, but you're right. It's conditioning of the individual to join the masses
Man, I've watched all of your videos I've found, I have rarely commented on them but I want you to know I'm very proud of you. Thankfully, Alex J.
I don’t usually comment but I feel this worthy of a compliment especially being homeschooled my entire life. This was so insightful and it helps me appreciate my parents’ sacrifice so much more. Thank you for all the videos and being willing to say things a lot of people won’t.
Thank you for you work. I’ve rarely seen such interesting content anywhere, whether in magazines or TV or even at school. It’s literally enlightening.
It is hard to debate, there is certainly a benefit towards to the whole society, but definitely not for individuals ! I grew up in China, where education is even more bs than the U.S. And I moved to US at 11th grade now I'm in a university. The education system did't made me dumb, simply cause I'm lucky enough to have mentors, and i just tried to play with the system rather than abandon it. I'd recommend to learn more outside the school when you are stacked in public schools, once you have a distinct sense of purpose , then make your own decision of whether public school suits you or not
I barely passed school, math was particularly difficult, and thought I was just stupid for nearly thirty years. I took online math classes as an adult and learned so much. It made it plain to me that it wasn't me that failed. It was the school system. And apparently it fails a large portion of society on a regular basis.
I now find myself with a voracious appetite to learn new things all the time in ways that exclude a formal schooling situation. I remind my kids regularly that if they're putting in the effort but are still struggling with school it's not a reflection on them but on the school system.
Well said. You aren’t taught HOW to think; you’re taught WHAT to think.
Kinda off topic but everything should be up for questioning even your strongest beliefs should be put to a fire when questioning them in this you find answers to things that go deeper then your skin and systems and as you question things more often you'll recognize systems that are made to put people in boxes and ideas made to keep people in line
This could easily rank among the most important videos ever put on TH-cam.
I remember first year in high school.. I was looking out the window from my classroom on a nice autumn day thinking "I wish I could go out right now and enjoy the weather". Today I work as a gardener and also as a nature photographer.. School drained my soul.
I'm so glad I subscribed to this channel. I listen as I walk to work and then think about what I heard all night as I do my mindless job. The comments are as interesting as the content as well.