To parody a quote from Deadpool, “I know what you’re thinking, how are we going to do this without disrespecting the end of Endgame? The answer: we won’t.”
@@XxROTSA2xX paraphrasing is to shorten a statement, concept or otherwise in a meant-to-be easily digestible manner but the main message and key concepts do not change. You quoted Deadpool essentially directly (verbatim)but parodied the statement- that is not an “indirect” quote. Its a whole different thing.
Also, just an FYI, “Infamous Iron Man” was a period in Dr. Doom’s life in the main Marvel Comics universe where he tried to redeem himself and become a hero (and thus a new Iron Man bcs Tony Stark went into a coma) and used Tony Stark’s armor tech.
I’m guessing that his involvement is going to be as limited as humanly possible, and they will probably give him a bunch of fake work mixed in with the real stuff.
@@AliFrankTheTankhuman torch is not a dr.doom level hype man I’m srry and when I saw Chris Evan’s my fav mic actor I was both sad but also happy because of the comedy and how they faked me out
This is actually perfect. The secret Wars from 2015 Showed Doom being like a god. And since I believe this MCU Will have a soft reboot after Secret Wars, making the first actor who appeared in this universe be the one who destroys it and creating a new one its very poetic.
All they have to do is use a few prosthetics to change his face a little bit....maybe his face is severely scarred or mangled...or just altered... examples (Hemsworth in furiosa) (Colin Farrell as the penguin) etc. AND THEN HE NO LONGER LOOKS LIKE TONY STARK.....AND PLUS DOOM WEARS A FREAKING MASK 95 % OF THE TIME. It's going to work.... HE WILL BE VICTOR VON DOOM. I think its a genius idea
@@davidgraham8299 nah, those movies are gonna suck. Endgame got almost 10 years of preparation and building up, they will rush everything now, including the script.
@@Hikari_Official77Kang was literally such a lame villain and his introduction was in Ant-Man Quintamania of all movies 💀 I'd rather get doctor doom than him
@NA-bn9er nah I doubt that’ll be the case. Robert Downy Jrs a great actor. And he recognizes this is a complex character and the main villain for the next movies so I imagine he will put effort into the role.
Things Doom and Iron Man have in common: armor, wealth, brains, ego. RDJ also works well with the Russos. In a way he is still playing Iron Man, that is why he said new mask same task. That is what makes him ideal, the experience and the understanding of the MCU. Now, apart from any apparent similarities, Doom is totally different from Stark. It is like the Chris Evans situation: he was an okay Johnny Storm, but he was able to make Captain America feel totally different.
A major plot point of Doom's backstory was that he was subjugated in his home country for being Romani, and the first guy they have in mind is the guy who played Tony Stark
Yeah, you're right. They should've casted that world famous Romani actor who would've brought in a huge audience. Wait...what's his name again? I'm drawing a blank. Or you know, bring back the biggest actor they could've hired and just get him to, oh I don't know, act? Get over it.
I have a feeling its similar to the role of the creator in the comics. It's a beloved hero that becomes an overarching villain. It will be Von Doom and NOT Stark, but it is a fantastic parallel. In the comics, the creator is a variant of Reed Richards, they contrasted each other, now the MCU wants to do it, and people hate it.
Biggest problem for me is execution. They have been promising big movie after big movie since end game. The problem is they haven’t delivered. Pushing stuff that is going to make half your fan base not show up. Poor writing. Like you said in your Deadpool video the plot was lame. We’ve been getting really bad writing and directing from marvel. They need to get back to making fan movies and not an agenda movie. I want marvel to succeed but I’m not paying for crappy writing
I actually like this idea, mainly because of Spiderman. If Peter is the main character of the next Avengers movie, which I highly suspect he will, then just imagine him having to fight a variant of his old mentor!
Alright, you've got me curious; what exactly is pointing you to thinking Spider-Man will be the main of the next Avengers? (I genuinely wanna know lol)
@@juliabonavita4731 EXACTLY - Every single thing Kang was boring as hell. When they tried to make him interesting in Loki BORING, Multiverse of Failure BORING, died by Fucking Ants. I never cared for him growing up in the 90s either, Dr Doom was the shit and still is.
@@juliabonavita4731 kang has never been anything crazy in the comics hes definitely strong enough but hes just not thanos or doom level. Carried hard by majors acting and without that who cares
I just hope we start getting COMPLETE STORIES again... Ever since End Game, all we've gotten is bits building up to something... Hopefully this means they'll go back to pre-Infinity War structure and give us complete, stand alone, stories, with seeds for future events/films.
I don't think RDJ is playing an Iron Man variant . Joe Russo said "If we are going to bring Victor Von Doom to the screen , and he is one of the more complex characters of comics right Kevin? if we are going to bring him to movie theaters worldwide , then I think we are going to need the greatest actor in the world to play that character." I'm not going to say any spoilers, but in Deadpool and Wolverine the actor 'CE' played a very different character than what was thought at first. Just shows they can have the same face, but be a different person.
@@The_MEMEphis Feige said Deadpool would have a lasting impact on the MCU as a whole. All they added in Deadpool is anchor characters, TVA, and the fact that people can look the same but be completely different people. I know it was fan service, but they put it in the film and it was approved by Feige and his team.
I still cant believe it, I personally love that RDJ is back and I cant wait to see one of Marvel's greatest villains played by one of their greatest actors
@@Hikari_Official77 They probably did, he could easily show up as a variant during Dr Dooms story. "Doom contacted Kang in the future" Since the Fantastic Four takes place in the past, this can easily happen. They aren't going to spoil everything right now.
I agree with you on the point that RDJ is playing a Tony Stark Dr Doom because if you think about it it’s something that’d happen if Tony became obsessed with protecting the world he’d obviously turn into the very thing he’d want to save everyone from
Bro RDJ casted as Motherfucking Doctor Doom is fkin bonkers I’m fkin lovin this SDCC like this fkin weekend has been Fkin Diabolical asf especially with Marvel, DC, Invincible, The Boys, and more bro I’m loving this weekend so many twists and surprises that im loving man I can’t wait for Avenger: Doomsday and Avengers: Secret Wars especially with the Russo Brothers are coming back to direct these movies. This is Fkin Diabolical!
@@Hikari_Official77I still think they will I just don’t think he will have as a prominent role but there’s a chance that he just is acted like he never existed but I doubt that cause yes they switched the main villain but I think marvel knows they have to atleast give him some sort of ending
@@Hikari_Official77 Kang sucked ass, his introduction is boring, dying by ANTS embarrassing, his variant He who Remains ... boring Just a clown. That character had 0 threat factor. He was more like villain of the week in Power Rangers.
I'm so hyped for RDJ playing Dr Doom I totally love it. It's clearly a variant and its like it's going full circle everyone loves you when you the hero and everyone hates you when you the villian makes sense to me!!!
"Magic is just a science we don't understand yet", imagine Tony Stark, the man who created Ultron, time travel, knocked out Hulk, stopped an alien invasion TWICE; imagine he learned magic. He WILL be the most dangerous thing the multiverse would face!😭 THIS IS CINEMA!
@valentino0343 youtube deleted my original comment? Weird... also nah man you can't make me shut up... you're just a brain dead, that's why you enjoy this lazy nonsense.
I don't understand why people don't like it. RDJ is a phenomenal actor, and he's playing Doom who wears a mask. So, plot twist for our main characters, when they find out(Through an old photo or something), he's a Tony stark variant.
@@MikeyDLooffy Just becaue his name is Victor doesnt mean he cant be a Tony Variant. Reminder that the F4 movie takes place in the 60s so maybe in this universe his parents die in ww2 and he is an orphan before being adopted into a new family
there’s an unwritten rule in pro wrestling: if a match gets cancelled, for whatever reason, the replacement talent must be bigger than what was originally advertised This applies perfectly to what just happened and I absolutely love it I am so excited to see my favorite superhero back, but now is a villain
You think RDJ is bigger than Johnathan Majors? The guy who was in Creed III and The Last Black Man in San Francisco?(this is the name of a actual movie no cap). Haha I be trollin' and hatin' trying to catch me ridin' dirty!
@@Starsteam1 I mean for several months after the kang actor incident people repeatedly said if you’re not gonna recast refocus the next avengers movie with doctor Doom instead and choosing the guy who practically started this whole franchise the MCU worlds savior play the guy who will the MCU worlds DOOOOM!!!! gotta say interesting choice especially since it’s the Multiverse instead of simple saying of oh it’s doctor Doom but from a different universe because we didn’t own the rights to his character up until recently Your having Iron man play this version makes it still tie into the whole multiverse saga as whole instead Your bringing in a known character while adding a new twist to it because it’s the multiverse saga Like how in what if season 1 episode 4 showed a dark reality of where doctor strange didn’t lose his hands in the car crash but instead Christine was in the car crash and died and lead that doctor strange to a dark path
We could’ve got Cillian Murphy for the role as Dr. Doom for Avengers Doomsday and Avengers Secret Wars, while RDJ and Tom Cruise gotten their roles as variants of Tony Stark/Iron Man for Secret Wars.
As much as I love RDJ I really don't like them bringing him back for a diff role it feels weird, I think part of the reason why they brought him back is to give audiences a reason to watch, but Cillian would have been soo perfect
@@Inner_Citadelagreed, he’s beloved and definitely boosted Marvel to where they are. It’s similar to Deadpool and Wolverine or Spider-Man no way home: incorporating beloved characters from older films in to the current MCU. But it does bring a compelling story: imagine when Peter or Rhodey see Doom and have issues fighting him because he looks like their closest friend/mentor.
I think the idea is that yes it’s a variant of Tony but he won’t be Tony Stark. A universe where he wasn’t born a Stark. He will be Victor Von Doom. Also the idea of evil avengers vs current avengers is a cool idea for Secret Wars while Doomsday could simply be avengers vs Dr Doom. Edit: You also have to think it’s possible that this variant is a Tony Stark where the Stark’s don’t exist, I mean the Fantastic Four never existed in the main MCU (that we know of) so it’s possible in other universes that there are some where certain people just completely never existed.
@@andyperalta6440 that could work cause of the whole Kang thing and that being their way of replacing him. I just believe it’s either a Tony variant or it’s a Victor variant.
@@RaphaelB610 it definitely can just be that but I feel like they are keeping stuff way too hush hush to rule out anything as a possibility. I love fan made theories
Trust the process with the Russo brothers. Marvel wouldn’t announce us RDJ as dr doom if they didn’t have bigger surprises up their sleeves. I also don’t think RDJ will be the main big bad dr doom for secrets wars. I’m excited to see where they go with this doom storyline.
I think it would be a good idea if Robert’s dr doom would be from a DIFFERENT universe and NOT from the mcu. And if he gets transported to the MCU it would be perfect if everyone goes like “iron man is Alive?” It would be interesting to see that
It would be especially interesting if Iron Man's legacy, in universe, gets tampered with, so other heroes have to defend a man who can't defend himself because he is dead.
I’m actually happy for Robert Downey Jr. He actually auditioned for Dr. Doom in the original Fantastic 4 movie and got rejected. Now he gets to live that dream! And I’m sure that because he got rejected the first time, he’ll do everything he can to make this the best performance he’s ever had.
Snipes is too old now man. Also, didn't you see Deadpool looking at the screen when Snipes said that, as in a "Oooh. How do we tell him he's been recast?..." sort of thing.
I dont like this idea. Yes, I know of Infamous Iron Man and I know of the multiverse but they should've casted a different actor. RDJ has already portrayed a Iconic character in the MCU and concluded that arc. Theres many other great actors that could've played Doctor Doom and them revealing this so soon seems desperate
I am absolutely loving the idea that RDJ is coming back to the MCU not as Iron Man but as Doctor Doom! This is can work 100%x the Russo’s know what they are doing and this truly epic news and I can’t be more excited! 🙌🙌🙌
@MikeyDLooffy Yea but that's crazy and seems lazy don't get me wrong I'm glad RDJ is back just I want the comic accurate Dr Doom and rather have him back ad Superior Iron Man
There’s a lot of actors who can play Doom and could portray the character for a lot of years and yet they cast RDJ. Money, money, moneyyy argh argh argh argh 🤦🏻♂️
Okay I don't understand why when people complained about movie companies do something like this for money when literally that's how movie businesses works?!!! Like lord have mercy people are so stupid.
I think this will be awesome, Earths greatest hero is now earths greatest treat. He stood toe to toe with Thanos without any Dr Doom powers, imagine how badass he will be.
Honestly imo phase 4 was so bad that they had to find a way to bring back their biggest reason why the other phases were so successful. I'm not really sure how I feel about it. I love RDJ, but as Doctor Doom 🤷♂️
I love it but I hate it
At the moment I love it but only time will tell if I hate it.
Oh I love it and I hate at the same time
Why?, the Russo brothers literally made one of the best villains to touch Cinema
I just hate it like I would rather anyone else besides him because he's a good Iron man but a horrible doctor doom
@@Fellsail5 true but ya know marvel's gonna make a shit ton of money 😭🙏
Peter: Mr Stark, is that you?
Dr. Doom: I dont even know who you are.
Damn this is good
I really hope we get something like this in the film
Wanda: You Took Everything From Me
Thanos From The Past: I Don't Even Who You Are
@@XenosGhxst we already see this exact line between thanos and Scarlett witch
@whimsicalman I know I mean I want a similar line between peter and doom
To parody a quote from Deadpool, “I know what you’re thinking, how are we going to do this without disrespecting the end of Endgame? The answer: we won’t.”
Logan*
@@Noodlecow2 I know. I said paraphrase which means indirectly quote.
@@XxROTSA2xX paraphrasing is to shorten a statement, concept or otherwise in a meant-to-be easily digestible manner but the main message and key concepts do not change. You quoted Deadpool essentially directly (verbatim)but parodied the statement- that is not an “indirect” quote. Its a whole different thing.
@@Noodlecow2 ok sorry I got the meaning of the word wrong. It was just supposed to be a joke.
@@Noodlecow2you must have a lot of friends and family that like to be around you
Bro died a hero and lived long enough to see himself become the villain💀💀💀
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That’s actual gold
It was just announced and I have already heard that around a million times. Jk 😂
More like came back a whole different person
Lmao how many times people gonna use this joke 😂
Deadpool has even more ammo to break the 4th wall with now 😂😂
RDJ to Kevin Feige:
You could not live with your own failure. Where did that bring you?
Back to me.
underrated comment!!!!
Robert Downey Jr. : I know who I am. I'm the dude playin' the dude, disguised as another dude!
No truer words have ever been spoken.
You saw that in another comment section
@@SlickA10Homepage dude…. Everyone has seen Tropic Thunder. Everyone is gonna quote this
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@SlickA10Homepage its from a movie downey was in you jackass.
It's very poetic that the guy who played the first hero is now the final villain before the reboot.
reboot?
@@CliffordTheVulture yeah they are doing a soft reboot after secret wars
Competition with the new DCU! Mfs finna do a marvel vs dc movie
@@CliffordTheVulturethese actors are getting old, they are bound to reboot it with new young actors.
They should’ve just recasted kang
Harvey: Would you rather die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain
RDJ: Yes
I am......................DOCTOR DOOM
They should’ve just recasted kang
Cringe
RDJ: I'll do both.
@@Hikari_Official77 they couldn't find someone with a big enough nose
Also, just an FYI, “Infamous Iron Man” was a period in Dr. Doom’s life in the main Marvel Comics universe where he tried to redeem himself and become a hero (and thus a new Iron Man bcs Tony Stark went into a coma) and used Tony Stark’s armor tech.
It kindda fits in with the MCU, though instead of a coma, Tony’s dead.
Anybody felt like this was straight from The Boys when the Deep was reintroduced into the Seven?
"Is it better to be feard or respected. I say, is it too much to ask for both?"
-Tony Stark. Our hero, our DOOM
They should’ve just recasted kang
Cringe
You goodsir, are the reason why i have faith in this version of doom
@@crow_g1639womp womp
@@Hikari_Official77doom is way better than kang bro be real
Can’t wait for Tom to spoil basically the entire plot in an interview
You know they're gonna pair him with somebody like Cumberbatch who was able to shut him up during past interviews.
I’m guessing that his involvement is going to be as limited as humanly possible, and they will probably give him a bunch of fake work mixed in with the real stuff.
The moment Rdj takes the mask off, we NEED to see Spider-Man so angry that he gets the Venom Symbiote
It’s like in Across the Spider-Verse, Miles is Spider-Man but he’s revealed to be the Prowler too. Plot Twist
Peter: Mr. Stark?
Doom: Who the hell is Stark?
No
If they cast RDJ, it'll have to be Tony stark turned into doom
He'll be stark, but being doom
It's a storyline from the comics
@@GameRusher1234the russos literally said he’s victor von doom
@@romart03body swap
@@romart03I'm thinking maybe it's his alter ego upon getting his powers
@@romart03or they just don’t want to reveal he’s a Tony Stark variant that Turned into Dr. Doom just yet, because they’re saving it for the movie?
You could not live with your failure, where did that bring you, back to me- Robert Downey Jr
Well what else to do more original ideas pandered
They should’ve just recasted kang
Exactly
As well as the Russo bros. lmao
Wasn't thanos that said this quote lmao
RDJ playing a Tony Stark variant of Dr Doom "I'm a dude playing a dude disguised as another dude" 🤣🤣🤣
“tony stark variant”??? .. Think it’ll just be like Evans playin Cap & Human Torch
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@@AliFrankTheTankhuman torch is not a dr.doom level hype man I’m srry and when I saw Chris Evan’s my fav mic actor I was both sad but also happy because of the comedy and how they faked me out
LMAO
I understand that reference
Dude from the second that photo came on screen I thought he was wearing a Walmart hat lol
I’m interested in hearing your thoughts on the new trailer for Hellboy: The Crooked Man that released during SDCC.
Let this man cook. Disney gonna make him do this till he's 90. Somehow fits into this news😂😂😂
😂
"You either die a hero or live long enough to be a villain"
RDJ: I choose BOTH!
Just like Darth revan and Darth Vader
Plus the double salary
They should’ve just recasted kang
They should’ve just recasted kang
Fun Fact: RDJ was supposed to be Doctor Doom 19 years ago in that old Fantastic Four movie.
Alr still dont want him to be dr. Doom tho
Making this casting all the more perfect!
@@Dragzzhasbutter808cry about it
@@Leonidas1 EXACTLY, I would hate to be a hater. When I see news like this, I get excited for it's potential, I don't cry online.
@@Kanoog fr, downplaying a casting when the movie isn't even out yet is mind boggling. They downplayed Heath Ledger for playing Joker yet he delivered
Imagine how the conversations Spidey and Doom are going to have lol
Wow…that’s INSANE. to quote Harvey Dent “you either die a hero or you live long enough to become a villain” 😅
"You could not live with your own failure... and where did that bring you? Back to me."
the opportunity for stories and emotional moments of peter seeing someone who looks like his iron man is gonna be insane
Agreed!!
they will definitely not take this route but I’d be pleasantly surprised if they do!
Low standards huh
This is what I'm saying
This is actually perfect. The secret Wars from 2015 Showed Doom being like a god. And since I believe this MCU Will have a soft reboot after Secret Wars, making the first actor who appeared in this universe be the one who destroys it and creating a new one its very poetic.
They should’ve just recasted kang
"It all started with me and now, it'll also end with me."
Sooo God Loki?
Bad writing
They should’ve cast an actual dr doom actor to play victor von doom. Not a fucking tony stark variant which it will be
I live in NYC, our Comic Con is in October!! I hope we get some big reveals too!!
Peter: Mr. Stark😢
Dr.Doom: Who tf is Mr.Stark?
The Aura of Doctor Doom is about to be INSANE!!!! 🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥🔥
What is it with this aura stuff?
@@radiohostalastorto put it simply aura is just another word for swag but Doctor Doom does have the most aura.
Gonna be ass
Too bad only Shang Chi has actual Dragonball/Naruto glowing Aura
@@radiohostalastorif you know ya know
Doctor Doom: "I am... Doom"
RDJ: "And I... am... Iron Man"
You stole this comment
@@sethgeeko867yeah
@@sethgeeko867So many ppl have already
@@sethgeeko867welcome to the internet
@@sethgeeko867 I just referenced it, then copied and pasted it
You won't even know it's Robert Downey Jr cuz he's the dude playing the dude disguised as the other dude
Best explanation ever!
All they have to do is use a few prosthetics to change his face a little bit....maybe his face is severely scarred or mangled...or just altered... examples (Hemsworth in furiosa) (Colin Farrell as the penguin) etc. AND THEN HE NO LONGER LOOKS LIKE TONY STARK.....AND PLUS DOOM WEARS A FREAKING MASK 95 % OF THE TIME. It's going to work.... HE WILL BE VICTOR VON DOOM. I think its a genius idea
Oh shit they pulled a “David Tennant is Doctor Who again!”
💀💀💀
Yes, sounds crap!
We all know how tat turns out.😂
Can you imagine Spider-Man in masking Dr.Doom and seeing the face that looks like his mentor that will be awesome
this is literally that scene in the boys of the deep being chosen for the seven
😂😂
Just imagine for Avengers Doomsady that Tom Holland Spider-Man react that Robert Downey JR is Doctor Doom from a different universe
They should’ve just recasted kang
@@Hikari_Official77true😢
@@Hikari_Official77
Get over it
@@Hikari_Official77Literally bro, he’s gone, nothing we could do about it. But then again, how tf did RDJ get out of jail?
@@davidgraham8299 nah, those movies are gonna suck. Endgame got almost 10 years of preparation and building up, they will rush everything now, including the script.
Imagine spider-man fighting dr doom knocking his mask off, and then being like tony...and not being able to fight him
Thats very possible, remember they said that Tom Holland's Spiderman will be the main character
This is STUPID!!
Why tf did that cook
They should’ve just recasted kang
@@Hikari_Official77Kang was literally such a lame villain and his introduction was in Ant-Man Quintamania of all movies 💀 I'd rather get doctor doom than him
They confirmed it was Victor Von Doom
I honestly think Robert Downy Jr could pull off Dr Doom so well that I don’t even care if it’s just actor bait he would portray him so well
@NA-bn9er wym?? Are you talking about his Doom outfit?
@NA-bn9er nah I doubt that’ll be the case. Robert Downy Jrs a great actor. And he recognizes this is a complex character and the main villain for the next movies so I imagine he will put effort into the role.
Things Doom and Iron Man have in common: armor, wealth, brains, ego. RDJ also works well with the Russos. In a way he is still playing Iron Man, that is why he said new mask same task. That is what makes him ideal, the experience and the understanding of the MCU. Now, apart from any apparent similarities, Doom is totally different from Stark. It is like the Chris Evans situation: he was an okay Johnny Storm, but he was able to make Captain America feel totally different.
I think RDJ is too old and tiny for the part
@@amarawinchester963 why? you imagined a younger Doom?
Welcome back, RDJ! You are returning at kind of a low point, but I’m glad you’re back!
A major plot point of Doom's backstory was that he was subjugated in his home country for being Romani, and the first guy they have in mind is the guy who played Tony Stark
So you think RDJ can't pull that off? He's an ACTOR, and a pretty good one, at that.
Buddy touch grass Jesus christ. RDJ is such a great actor who gives a shit.
Yeah, you're right. They should've casted that world famous Romani actor who would've brought in a huge audience. Wait...what's his name again? I'm drawing a blank.
Or you know, bring back the biggest actor they could've hired and just get him to, oh I don't know, act? Get over it.
@@davidgraham8299 right and they can cast ryan gosling as black panther to lmfao
@@MichaelSmith-dk1lc Except RDJ and dr Doom are both white so what's ur point
Was waiting for this upload!!
Can’t believe they broke the streak of having all the avengers movies subtitles begin with vowel 😤
Dr Dolittle snapped his fingers and became Dr.Doom!
I have a feeling its similar to the role of the creator in the comics. It's a beloved hero that becomes an overarching villain. It will be Von Doom and NOT Stark, but it is a fantastic parallel. In the comics, the creator is a variant of Reed Richards, they contrasted each other, now the MCU wants to do it, and people hate it.
1:04 I do not think anyone thought he was playing George Bush lol
I think he meant George Washington Bridge
They already said RBJ was to be an alternate Stark, from another reality.
Biggest problem for me is execution. They have been promising big movie after big movie since end game. The problem is they haven’t delivered. Pushing stuff that is going to make half your fan base not show up. Poor writing. Like you said in your Deadpool video the plot was lame. We’ve been getting really bad writing and directing from marvel. They need to get back to making fan movies and not an agenda movie. I want marvel to succeed but I’m not paying for crappy writing
I actually like this idea, mainly because of Spiderman. If Peter is the main character of the next Avengers movie, which I highly suspect he will, then just imagine him having to fight a variant of his old mentor!
DUDE!! Holy sh#t you're right. Oh, man. Can't wait to see it happen!
Alright, you've got me curious; what exactly is pointing you to thinking Spider-Man will be the main of the next Avengers? (I genuinely wanna know lol)
Dog shit plot ngl kang shouldve been the main villian instead rushing Doctor Doom
I get it but at the same time I don’t. Dr.Doom isn’t a Spider-Man villai!!
@@isolated_illustHe's the most popular character
Robert Downey Jr. as Doctor Doom is so crazy and interesting! 👍
They should’ve just recasted kang
@@Hikari_Official77 ehh Kang was kinda underwhelming
@@juliabonavita4731 EXACTLY - Every single thing Kang was boring as hell. When they tried to make him interesting in Loki BORING, Multiverse of Failure BORING, died by Fucking Ants. I never cared for him growing up in the 90s either, Dr Doom was the shit and still is.
@@juliabonavita4731 kang has never been anything crazy in the comics hes definitely strong enough but hes just not thanos or doom level. Carried hard by majors acting and without that who cares
No it's not
"You either die a Hero or live long enough to see yourself become the Villain."
He got killed as Ironman to coming back in The MCU as Dr Doom!
It would be perfect if dr doom story is the same as it always was BUT only switching victor for tony without changing anything else
I just hope we start getting COMPLETE STORIES again... Ever since End Game, all we've gotten is bits building up to something... Hopefully this means they'll go back to pre-Infinity War structure and give us complete, stand alone, stories, with seeds for future events/films.
I don't think RDJ is playing an Iron Man variant . Joe Russo said "If we are going to bring Victor Von Doom to the screen , and he is one of the more complex characters of comics right Kevin? if we are going to bring him to movie theaters worldwide , then I think we are going to need the greatest actor in the world to play that character."
I'm not going to say any spoilers, but in Deadpool and Wolverine the actor 'CE' played a very different character than what was thought at first. Just shows they can have the same face, but be a different person.
That's a very different example because it was mostly fan service since he previously played the character
@@The_MEMEphis Feige said Deadpool would have a lasting impact on the MCU as a whole. All they added in Deadpool is anchor characters, TVA, and the fact that people can look the same but be completely different people. I know it was fan service, but they put it in the film and it was approved by Feige and his team.
Imagine the Avengers all like: “Tony is that you?•
“Here’s a hint.”
- Dr. Doom
@@pabloruiz6224 that was amazing
I wished they got a Romani actor to play Dr. Doom. Especially since that aspect of him is important for his backstory.
First with the Maximoff twins, now with Doctor Doom🤦
They should’ve just recasted kang
Hopefully for the real Dr Doom they will
Yeah..
Yup that’s possible why I’m leaning towards I don’t like RDJ as Dr.Doom
I saw it as a hateful spirit left behind turning into the villain known as dr. doom, I know I'm wrong, but I like the idea
Spider-Man meeting Dr Doom will be such a heartbreaking encounter
"and i, am...iron man"
"and i am doctor doom"🗿😭
They should’ve just recasted kang
Deadpool:"he's gonna say it" wait whattt lol
@@jacobknowlton847omg he's gonna say it...say what ? Avengers...flame on !!! Wait, what ? 😅
"and I am the true Marvel Jesus"
@@Hikari_Official77 you're in every comment saying the same shit 😂
This is an in case of emergency break class moment.
You know what they say about desperate times
They should’ve just recasted kang
This comment should be pinned
Their movies are still making money lol, the MCU isn't exactly failing
@@theketaminekid1241lol they aren’t nearly making as much money as they use too lol 😂
From Legend who made a Mid Character an actual Goat to one of the most beloved Villains in Marvel
All caps when you spell the name, RDJ
I still cant believe it, I personally love that RDJ is back and I cant wait to see one of Marvel's greatest villains played by one of their greatest actors
They should’ve just recasted kang
SAME
@@Hikari_Official77 They probably did, he could easily show up as a variant during Dr Dooms story. "Doom contacted Kang in the future" Since the Fantastic Four takes place in the past, this can easily happen. They aren't going to spoil everything right now.
@@Kanoog oh
But they probably should’ve made avengers 5 name is kang&doom
I agree with you on the point that RDJ is playing a Tony Stark Dr Doom because if you think about it it’s something that’d happen if Tony became obsessed with protecting the world he’d obviously turn into the very thing he’d want to save everyone from
They should’ve just recasted kang
I think it was confirmed he's playing Victor and not a Tony variant.
@@MikeyDLooffy true but that could all change in the writing process
@@Hammah_Kane1002I doubt they’ll change that though. Doom is too big for that. He’ll be Victor Von Doom.
@@Hikari_Official77 you’re not wrong
RDJ= I'm a dude playing a dude disguised as another dude....
They should’ve just recasted kang
@@Hikari_Official77 bruh stfu and stop replying to every comment
You never go full retired.
I cannot wait for these movies!!! 🤯
I actually thought that RDJ as Doom was fake, I'M SO SHOCKED THAT IT'S REAL!
It's late, I think this is just a dream hahah
I had to look a few different places to make sure I wasn't seeing fake stuff
This really just broke the internet fr 🙏😭
Bro RDJ casted as Motherfucking Doctor Doom is fkin bonkers I’m fkin lovin this SDCC like this fkin weekend has been Fkin Diabolical asf especially with Marvel, DC, Invincible, The Boys, and more bro I’m loving this weekend so many twists and surprises that im loving man I can’t wait for Avenger: Doomsday and Avengers: Secret Wars especially with the Russo Brothers are coming back to direct these movies. This is Fkin Diabolical!
They should’ve just recasted kang
@@Hikari_Official77Kang is lame
@@Hikari_Official77I still think they will I just don’t think he will have as a prominent role but there’s a chance that he just is acted like he never existed but I doubt that cause yes they switched the main villain but I think marvel knows they have to atleast give him some sort of ending
@@Hikari_Official77 Kang sucked ass, his introduction is boring, dying by ANTS embarrassing, his variant He who Remains ... boring Just a clown. That character had 0 threat factor. He was more like villain of the week in Power Rangers.
Lol trash choice.
I'm so hyped for RDJ playing Dr Doom I totally love it. It's clearly a variant and its like it's going full circle everyone loves you when you the hero and everyone hates you when you the villian makes sense to me!!!
I hope RDJ is actually Victor Von Doom. Would be dope.
Edit: oh, they literally say during the announcement he is Victor Von Doom haha
This is insane, he died a hero and now he's a villian!!!
"Magic is just a science we don't understand yet", imagine Tony Stark, the man who created Ultron, time travel, knocked out Hulk, stopped an alien invasion TWICE; imagine he learned magic. He WILL be the most dangerous thing the multiverse would face!😭 THIS IS CINEMA!
Tony Stark In the comics Did switch minds with doctor doom so it’s not really surprising
This is lazy cinema... this is the panderverse that south park spoke of.
@@NinjaSonarwomp womp shut up
@valentino0343 youtube deleted my original comment? Weird... also nah man you can't make me shut up... you're just a brain dead, that's why you enjoy this lazy nonsense.
I don't understand why people don't like it. RDJ is a phenomenal actor, and he's playing Doom who wears a mask. So, plot twist for our main characters, when they find out(Through an old photo or something), he's a Tony stark variant.
I think he will do pretty well
I think it's confirmed that he's going to be playing Victor and not a Tony variant.
He better be a Stark variant or else this is just desperate and stupid
@@MikeyDLooffy Just becaue his name is Victor doesnt mean he cant be a Tony Variant. Reminder that the F4 movie takes place in the 60s so maybe in this universe his parents die in ww2 and he is an orphan before being adopted into a new family
Fun Fact, You can't please everybody. If I gave everybody in the comments $200 right now, I guarantee some people would bitch they didn't get more.
If we get Dr. DOOM in the MCU, we NEED to get an MF DOOM tribute somewhere in the movie. Only reason I'll watch is the potential for this.
I'm mixed on it it just depends how they introduce him
there’s an unwritten rule in pro wrestling: if a match gets cancelled, for whatever reason, the replacement talent must be bigger than what was originally advertised
This applies perfectly to what just happened and I absolutely love it
I am so excited to see my favorite superhero back, but now is a villain
You think RDJ is bigger than Johnathan Majors? The guy who was in Creed III and The Last Black Man in San Francisco?(this is the name of a actual movie no cap). Haha I be trollin' and hatin' trying to catch me ridin' dirty!
@@richardolney1822take ur meds
It makes no sense tho
@@Starsteam1 I mean for several months after the kang actor incident people repeatedly said if you’re not gonna recast refocus the next avengers movie with doctor Doom instead and choosing the guy who practically started this whole franchise the MCU worlds savior play the guy who will the MCU worlds DOOOOM!!!!
gotta say interesting choice especially since it’s the Multiverse instead of simple saying of oh it’s doctor Doom but from a different universe because we didn’t own the rights to his character up until recently
Your having Iron man play this version makes it still tie into the whole multiverse saga as whole instead
Your bringing in a known character while adding a new twist to it because it’s the multiverse saga
Like how in what if season 1 episode 4 showed a dark reality of where doctor strange didn’t lose his hands in the car crash but instead Christine was in the car crash and died and lead that doctor strange to a dark path
@@theoneandonlymasterjosh2912 Tony Stark is not Victor Von Doom, you can't just change the character because it's "interesting" that's ludicrous!
We could’ve got Cillian Murphy for the role as Dr. Doom for Avengers Doomsday and Avengers Secret Wars, while RDJ and Tom Cruise gotten their roles as variants of Tony Stark/Iron Man for Secret Wars.
As much as I love RDJ I really don't like them bringing him back for a diff role it feels weird, I think part of the reason why they brought him back is to give audiences a reason to watch, but Cillian would have been soo perfect
@@Inner_Citadelagreed, he’s beloved and definitely boosted Marvel to where they are. It’s similar to Deadpool and Wolverine or Spider-Man no way home: incorporating beloved characters from older films in to the current MCU.
But it does bring a compelling story: imagine when Peter or Rhodey see Doom and have issues fighting him because he looks like their closest friend/mentor.
Bro nobody wants to see cillian Murphy he didn’t want the god damn role same with John in the fantastic 4 let us be happy damn
I think the idea is that yes it’s a variant of Tony but he won’t be Tony Stark. A universe where he wasn’t born a Stark. He will be Victor Von Doom. Also the idea of evil avengers vs current avengers is a cool idea for Secret Wars while Doomsday could simply be avengers vs Dr Doom.
Edit: You also have to think it’s possible that this variant is a Tony Stark where the Stark’s don’t exist, I mean the Fantastic Four never existed in the main MCU (that we know of) so it’s possible in other universes that there are some where certain people just completely never existed.
I believe this Doctor Doom as actually Reed and Sue’s son, Nathaniel. He just goes by the alias of Victor Von Doom
@@andyperalta6440 that could work cause of the whole Kang thing and that being their way of replacing him. I just believe it’s either a Tony variant or it’s a Victor variant.
@@RaphaelB610 it definitely can just be that but I feel like they are keeping stuff way too hush hush to rule out anything as a possibility. I love fan made theories
Probably it is Doctor Doom in Tony Stark’s body and he has imprisoned Tony inside Doom.
Trust the process with the Russo brothers. Marvel wouldn’t announce us RDJ as dr doom if they didn’t have bigger surprises up their sleeves. I also don’t think RDJ will be the main big bad dr doom for secrets wars. I’m excited to see where they go with this doom storyline.
I think it would be a good idea if Robert’s dr doom would be from a DIFFERENT universe and NOT from the mcu. And if he gets transported to the MCU it would be perfect if everyone goes like “iron man is Alive?” It would be interesting to see that
It would be especially interesting if Iron Man's legacy, in universe, gets tampered with, so other heroes have to defend a man who can't defend himself because he is dead.
I’m actually happy for Robert Downey Jr. He actually auditioned for Dr. Doom in the original Fantastic 4 movie and got rejected. Now he gets to live that dream! And I’m sure that because he got rejected the first time, he’ll do everything he can to make this the best performance he’s ever had.
With them casting RDJ as Von Doom gives me hope they will keep Snipes as Blade and that's why he said there will be only one Blade 🙏
Not gonna happen 😂 they can have Snipes be a cameo from a different universe but I doubt it
Snipes is too old now man. Also, didn't you see Deadpool looking at the screen when Snipes said that, as in a "Oooh. How do we tell him he's been recast?..." sort of thing.
"Is it better to die a hero or live a monster"
- Shutter Island
Love the idea!
I dont like this idea. Yes, I know of Infamous Iron Man and I know of the multiverse but they should've casted a different actor. RDJ has already portrayed a Iconic character in the MCU and concluded that arc. Theres many other great actors that could've played Doctor Doom and them revealing this so soon seems desperate
I am absolutely loving the idea that RDJ is coming back to the MCU not as Iron Man but as Doctor Doom! This is can work 100%x the Russo’s know what they are doing and this truly epic news and I can’t be more excited! 🙌🙌🙌
The title change is perfect but idk about RDJ being Dr Doom🟢⚪️ I rather them get their own Dr Doom
In the comics, a Tony variant becomes Dr. Doom.
@MikeyDLooffy Yea but that's crazy and seems lazy don't get me wrong I'm glad RDJ is back just I want the comic accurate Dr Doom and rather have him back ad Superior Iron Man
"You Either Die a Hero or Live Long Enough to See Yourself Become the villain" - Half Face
Looking forward to seeing Dr Doom in action. Love it or hate it, you know that Downey will deliver a stellar performance.
Bro died a hero and lived long enough to see himself become the villain 💀 💀
Yall will still post this same ass comment even though somebody else already posted it 😂 that’s crazy.
There’s a lot of actors who can play Doom and could portray the character for a lot of years and yet they cast RDJ. Money, money, moneyyy argh argh argh argh 🤦🏻♂️
Okay I don't understand why when people complained about movie companies do something like this for money when literally that's how movie businesses works?!!! Like lord have mercy people are so stupid.
Desperation marvel you had one job, cillian Murphy
I think this will be awesome, Earths greatest hero is now earths greatest treat. He stood toe to toe with Thanos without any Dr Doom powers, imagine how badass he will be.
Stanley once said that Dr. Doom from Marvel and Lobo from DC were his favorite Comic Book characters.
Honestly imo phase 4 was so bad that they had to find a way to bring back their biggest reason why the other phases were so successful. I'm not really sure how I feel about it. I love RDJ, but as Doctor Doom 🤷♂️
Funny story: I talked about how I wanted Doctor Doom to be in MCU the day before this announcement and then we get this.
They should’ve just recasted kang
They should’ve just recasted kang
@@Hikari_Official77 why you commenting this everywhere
@@lankeratorwhy are you gae
You wanted Tony Stark to just call himself Dr Doom?
As a Spider-Man fan, I'm most interesting in how Peter is gonna react to seeing his father figure as the man threat! There's so much potential there!
5:17 after deadpool and wolverine, im convinced MARVEL IS SO FRICKIN BACK🙌🙌🙌
We said that after NWH..and then GOTG 3……and then after Loki Season 2…………