A question: if you're riding without straps as you show in the video, you don't have to move the foil back and forth to avoid front foot pressure - you just stand a bit further forward and ride the board from closer to the centre, if you want, no? my understanding is that this stuff about foil position is only really critical if you wing foil with straps, as once those are locked into position then yes, you can end up with excessive front foot pressure and need to adjust foil position in the box. I'm n expert though, so please share your thoughts on this. Thanks!
Hi Chris The most important thing is to find the correct foil position with or without straps. If you have straps you will have more control but the foil position found without straps should still be relative to with straps. But "where" you put your straps plays a role in the balance of the foil. Some riders use different techniques but the goal is to have the mast perfectly flying without having to counteract any negative foil feedback. Your question is very good and we suggest time on the water and coming in to make minor adjustments to experiment with what you like. Aloha
I have straps for front legs (tried without as well) and the foil in neutral position. The board won't get off water without great difficulty (and wind), so will try to move the foil towards the aft of the board. Also, I find that the front foot straps are only useful when getting off knees (first seconds) and useless later unless you jump and stuff. If I leave the front leg in the straps, I find that my board is overpowered by breaking waves in an angle against the board and I fall down. Sometimes the straps help to lift the board as well to regain balance.
@@whatsupbudbud I've been practicing different techniques and looking at how board designs are changing and it seems clear to me that until you NEED straps for jumping, you should seek to fly without them so you can make continuous adjustments to your position relative to the foil. The reality is that you can put the foil anywhere in the track if your feet are free - you then just set your feet in relation to the mast. If you look at the latest boards by Armstrong, for example, they have suddenly put the mast track way forwards, yet Fanatic have the track way back! In my opinion something like this wing drifter is about right. As a relative beginner the advantage of puting the mast quite far forwards is that when you are not up on foil, you can move slowly forwards with your feet in about the right position for takeoff. If the mast is back, especially like on a fanatic, you have to locate your back foot so far back before you fly that you then sink the tail of the board, when you want to actually keep it fairly flat and get a bit of planing speed before trying to pump a little for lift off. So - set your mast to allow you to stand easily without being on foil, but with feet well positioned for takeoff, tail not under water. That makes learning pretty quick.
@@lakedistictfoilers2387 I managed to get on the foil easily when the mast is set about 3-4 cm from the neutral position. And will be taking the footstraps off. Thanks for your detailed reply, mate.
@@lakedistictfoilers2387 except as I was realizing yesterday, you want foot position to be the same before your foiling and when you get on the foil. I've got a big front foil and found that I had to have my feet really far forward when foiling but that was making non-foiling burying the nose. Next time out need to shift the mask back and hopefully that should equalize the foot positions between foiling and non-foiling modes.
Always adjust your feet to harmonize with the foil position. Your feet should bridge over the top of the foil so you feel the correct balance and control.
Thank you!! I had so much fun on first fly but too much front foot pressure to keep nose down. Will try foil slight back. 👏👏👍
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A question: if you're riding without straps as you show in the video, you don't have to move the foil back and forth to avoid front foot pressure - you just stand a bit further forward and ride the board from closer to the centre, if you want, no? my understanding is that this stuff about foil position is only really critical if you wing foil with straps, as once those are locked into position then yes, you can end up with excessive front foot pressure and need to adjust foil position in the box. I'm n expert though, so please share your thoughts on this. Thanks!
Hi Chris
The most important thing is to find the correct foil position with or without straps. If you have straps you will have more control but the foil position found without straps should still be relative to with straps. But "where" you put your straps plays a role in the balance of the foil. Some riders use different techniques but the goal is to have the mast perfectly flying without having to counteract any negative foil feedback. Your question is very good and we suggest time on the water and coming in to make minor adjustments to experiment with what you like.
Aloha
I have straps for front legs (tried without as well) and the foil in neutral position. The board won't get off water without great difficulty (and wind), so will try to move the foil towards the aft of the board. Also, I find that the front foot straps are only useful when getting off knees (first seconds) and useless later unless you jump and stuff. If I leave the front leg in the straps, I find that my board is overpowered by breaking waves in an angle against the board and I fall down. Sometimes the straps help to lift the board as well to regain balance.
@@whatsupbudbud I've been practicing different techniques and looking at how board designs are changing and it seems clear to me that until you NEED straps for jumping, you should seek to fly without them so you can make continuous adjustments to your position relative to the foil. The reality is that you can put the foil anywhere in the track if your feet are free - you then just set your feet in relation to the mast. If you look at the latest boards by Armstrong, for example, they have suddenly put the mast track way forwards, yet Fanatic have the track way back! In my opinion something like this wing drifter is about right. As a relative beginner the advantage of puting the mast quite far forwards is that when you are not up on foil, you can move slowly forwards with your feet in about the right position for takeoff. If the mast is back, especially like on a fanatic, you have to locate your back foot so far back before you fly that you then sink the tail of the board, when you want to actually keep it fairly flat and get a bit of planing speed before trying to pump a little for lift off. So - set your mast to allow you to stand easily without being on foil, but with feet well positioned for takeoff, tail not under water. That makes learning pretty quick.
@@lakedistictfoilers2387 I managed to get on the foil easily when the mast is set about 3-4 cm from the neutral position. And will be taking the footstraps off. Thanks for your detailed reply, mate.
@@lakedistictfoilers2387 except as I was realizing yesterday, you want foot position to be the same before your foiling and when you get on the foil. I've got a big front foil and found that I had to have my feet really far forward when foiling but that was making non-foiling burying the nose. Next time out need to shift the mask back and hopefully that should equalize the foot positions between foiling and non-foiling modes.
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How is this in relationship to foot position? Where should u stand? Back foot over the mast even after u move it?....
Always adjust your feet to harmonize with the foil position. Your feet should bridge over the top of the foil so you feel the correct balance and control.
Some companies don't even include the nuts and bolts with the board so you can't even connect the foil.