2022 Emtb Shootout - Trek Rail 9.9 XX1 AXS Review
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It's time to review the Trek Rail 9.9 XX1 AXS in our 2022 Emtb shootout! Trek’s Rail 9.9 is a tech-loaded eMTB with 29” wheels and 160/150mm travel, which offers mannerisms that let it hang with both the Trail and Enduro category bikes without feeling out of place.
Moving onto some of the useful features on the Trek Rail 9.9, the Smart System-equipped Bosch motor has more mid-range “grunt” than the EP8 systems, giving the feeling of a slightly more powerful motor overall. The smart eMTB mode is impressive for delivering usable grip on loose or slick surfaces, though sometimes dropped the power more than we would have liked. We also found that all the bikes equipped with the Bosch remote had a tendency to change power modes mysteriously while riding. We were either bumping their sensitive buttons without knowing, or the bumpy terrain caused them to shift on their own. Regardless, it happened on all Smart System bikes enough times for it to be a talking point.
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Love the straight forward honest feedback from these shootouts. Especially advice such as buying a lower spec trim to take advantage of previous geo. When is the Levo review dropping? That's one of the ones I'm looking forward to most.
Awesome thank you very much. We place the highest priority on our viewers hard earned dollars as we realize these bikes are huge investments.
Levo drops tomorrow and we think you’ll be happy!
2020 Rail 9.9, put a meg neg on it, bike flat rips, 1000 + hard enduro miles on it to include a Shepherd Mountain BME...ain't broke don't fix it. as always the Wolf is awesome, nice job boys.
Which shock did the 2020 model have? I own the 2021 with super deluxe tru-shaft, and as it seems, the megneg does not fit that shock…
@@VINLAND_777 same shock (Rear Shock RockShox Deluxe RT3, DebonAir spring, RE:aktiv with Thru Shaft damper, 230mm x 57.5mm) , Trek says it won't fit. It does fit, checked clearances, measured twice, no interference noted even on my medium frame. i've been running in for over a year with over 1000 miles no issues massively improves the shock.-cheers
Happy I got the Rail 7 2022, same geo that won last year! Swapped the stock suspension for Fox Performance 38 up front with a Float X2 in the rear. Thing is a beast!
Yeah that's exactly what I'd do!
Got the same bike, also thinking about upgrading fork and damper. What’s the main reason to go fox over rockshokx (9/9.8 xt spec)?
@@mseekles1972 to me it came down to wanting the top of the line suspension, since if you're paying a good chunk of change. You minus well go all the way and get the kashima bling!
I’m 6’2 and my 2022 Large 9.8 fits me better than my 21 Large does. I needed the longer reach.
The Reach difference between The medium and large is crazy (set in low) 452mm against 487mm and large is 42mm longer that’s massive 🤔
Loving the reviews,awesome 🤘🏽
as someone who has an xl 2021 9.8 xt in smoke red and carbon grey.....i'm feeling quite smug right about now!
It loved going fast and charging hard!!
Bosch and shimano rattle is a pleasure killer. Thats why i bought a levo. Stealthy just like an analog bike. Only thing you hear is tires on the ground. And occasional chain slap. Options last year for me was rail or levo. The geometry of the rail was a tiny bit better. But ended up with levo. Havent regretted it for a second after testing my mates rail. And those who say you dont notice the rattle. I do...
I disagree - there’s no significant rattle on the gen 4 CX. The Bosch CX is superior to that Levo motor as well. I’ve put my Rail through some serious climbs and terrain and it just keeps going
@@jacob80 CX4 is a great system. Excellent power and very efficient. And rattles far less then Shimano EP8. But brose makes zero noise when coasting in rough terrain. Unlike ep8 and cx4.
But i think bike material, shape and integration could hide it or in worst case enhance the rattle noise. Fo if you dont notice it. Good for you:)
So sick... but I think I've spent under $10k to buy my last two cars (combined, ha!)
Exactly, and the bike isn't even anything special. Bike prices are pure madness. And they probably will keep on getting more expensive as people keep buying them...
I know it hypothetical, but if you were shorter how would you rate the medium? All the geo numbers seem very good for a 5”7-5”9 person.
I've preordered the medium and am 5'10" I want 450-460 reach
Really appreciate that you publish the weights on all the bikes. It is astonishing that there is a 10 lb range between the lightest and heaviest bikes on test, and that the heaviest is almost 20 lbs more than the lightweight e-MTBs (Orbea Rise, Specialized Levo SL). It would be very helpful, if possible, to list the range of weights for each model from the lower specs to the top of the line versions that you tested. Wondering if spec/frame changes weight by 1-2 lbs vs 4-5 lbs?
Unfortunately, we can only provide weights for the bikes we have on test. Many of the manufactures put weights on their bike pages, however, alot of times that is for the size small (unless mentioned otherwise. That said, the weight difference between frame sizes is fairly marginal, at most a quarter pound.
@@TheLoamWolf Thanks for the quick response. Answering my own question, and good on Trek for publishing weights on their website. The 9.7 has a claimed weight of 50.6 lbs, 1 lb more than the 9.9. I know the 9.9 has way fancier components, but you could buy a 9.7 and one of the other bikes on test for the price of the 9.9. With all of that said, I am still holding out for more offerings in the lightweight class, like the Rise.
Am putting a deposit down on a rail 7 the shop has told me should have it mid September just in time for a Kiwi spring
Nice!!
Winner winner again ?! I’m thinking the Levo wins overall .
Thanks for watching. That Levo is a bad ass machine…
Hi Drew. Thanks for the thoughtful review by the way. Loam wolf delivers yet again!
I forgot to ask ….. did you notice any battery rattle issues develop during the course of your testing?? ….. like what has been reported in one other review on line. I guess not because you didn’t mention it. Cheers and thanks in advance. Andrew.
400km in NZ on my 9.8XT (same geo and battery as tested) no rattles from battery area. Motor has the usual Bosch clunk from time to time on chunky stuff downhill
this thing is badass... but i would prefere a few calbe routed to the main battery instead of 4 different batterys...
Trek seem to have stuffed up the sizing by trying too hard to match the slash. The XL with a 517mm reach in the low setting (even longer in the high) is more like an XXL and the drop down to the size large (reach 487 from memory) is too bigger step. For people stuck in between they either have to compromise up or down and then try and compensate by fiddling with stem length for example. For me at about 191.5cm (6ft3.5” for those still living in the 17th century) I have no choice but go for the XL. Really frustrating. I would like a reach of around 500mm. So my only option is to put on a 35mm stem, which will kind of make it feel like a 507mm reach. But the wheel base will still be like an articulated truck. What a pain. My 9.8xt is still three months away and I am pondering pulling the plug. Sigh 😞
You nailed it and we’ve talked with many others out on the trails who feel the same
Dude same exact thing happened with me. I swapped stems down to 32 mm and played with backswept handlebar but you are limited keeping the hands in front of the mid line of the steering tube before the steering gets twitchy and goes to shit. Xl is too big, L was too small they need a L/XL size
@@byrond123 yeah….that was my exact worry. I have decided to cancel my Rail order and just ordered the turbo Levo expert. Trek’s loss. Specialized’s gain.
@@AB-NZ How've you been getting along with it?
@@LastAphelion the Levo is amazing. Riding more (obviously) and harder trails than I was able to do on my Ibis Ripmo. Probably because I don’t ride with a lot of finesse and the Levo is better at pointing and shooting. The Ripmo requires more precision to navigate the roots/rocks because it’s so light. But better for flicking off trail features.
Went for the S5 sizing, which means the Levo is not too long for the technical twisty trails we have where I live. Unfortunately I have been off it for a while due to a bad crash…. Broken rib and pneumothorax. Sigh. I suspect it will take a bit to get my mojo back 🤔😏.
Have played with the adjustable rear chip thing, but found the lower setting resulted in way too many pedal strikes on rocks and roots. Just slackened out the head angle with the adjustable head set, but not ridden it in anger yet. Will revert back to the stock settings if I don’t like it.
Cheers for NZ.
I feel like you guys should have tested the bike as a mullet. its a totally different machine with the smaller rear wheel.
hurry with the scott ransom review i am thinking about buying one haaaa
Don’t wait! They may be gone by the time our review drops. Just let ‘em know the Wolf made you do it.
@@TheLoamWolf is it a good bike ? Geo looks good . It’s mostly for riding beacon hill in Spokane wa
Nice review, thank you! Now I'm thinking about grabbing my trek rail's 2022 deposit back :) What is Robert's height?
Would like to know this too
Rob is 6'2" on a good day.
So even in a medium the geo isn’t good?
Not for most of our crews preference, it's much too short.
Hi, are the geometry numbers better in a medium size bike. Or is it the xxl that’s doesn’t work well on the Rail, 2022 model?
I'm 5ft 8in and thinking of getting the 9.8xt size medium. Do you think I'd have a problem with this bike? Currently ride a medium long slash
5’8” is perfect for a medium. I’m 5’10 and have a medium 9.8XT arriving next week.
@@bwdown how’s the bike?
@@mseekles1972 Its brilliant thanks, fitted Oneup flats, SQlab saddle and Ergon GA3 grips. Have done 400km in 6 weeks. Coming into summer in NZ now so I expect to be well into the 1000km area by Xmas. If ya want to know anything else just ask
@@bwdown sounds great. I am thinking about either the new lighter fuel exe or rail 9.8 as a second emtb. Already have a rail 7 and that bike is fantastic. I am 176cm riding a large rail, but for the 9.8 2022/2023 geo I would consider going with a size medium .. same for the fuel exe, that’s also a very long bike
@@mseekles1972 nice! If you already have a rail I would try the EXE. As long as your local riding is okay on 150/140 travel. I’m tempted to try a mid power EMTB in a couple of years as my next ebike.
The Trek logo is far to big on there bikes its to in your face, they should shrink it imo the bike would look far better
Hopefully Re posting the canyon video?
Yes, sadly even after watching it 8 times during editing, the final upload glitched out and cut off the ending in TH-cam. It'll be going back up Friday as the Levo is tomorrow. Thanks
To slack for me to want to try.
I can't afford these bikes anymore. Now I dumpster dive for new rides and restore them to a working condition.
$13k is a f’in joke. You can get a motorcycle for thousands cheaper!
A Suzuki maybe... and itll get ridden a fraction as much as an ebike.
@@TheLoamWolf you can’t tell me its logical a bicycle cost that much vs a motorcycle. Front fork, rear shock, spoke wheels scrap value alone there is more in a motorcycle. Then there is wiring and a motor, plastic forming. Only KTMs go for more that $10k. During normal times a Honda crf450 is $7k, yzf450 about the same depending on the dealer.
Ridiculously overpriced!!!!!
cheaters
AHHHHH NO! Anything but that, don't call us cheaters. haha. We were cheating long before eBikes came about. We've been shuttling in the back of trucks and riding chairlifts since the 90s, so we've accepted our lot in life. At least we're having tons of fun and getting way more downhill time in.