I found an Auto called Coronach-22 with target lock, momentum zen, ricochet and extended barrel that really surprised me. Aside from Suros Regime, no auto felt consistent until I tried this one. Considering it's not an auto meta, the gun is really so much fun to use and with zen moment it feels like nothing can flinch you (playing on 50 res).
Wallah you should try an HC with zen, not sure how good it is on MnK, but the flinch literally gets deleted. Austringer and Nation of Beasts can roll with it
What a coincidence I just got done using a 70 range zen moment roll of this thing. This thing will be borderline meta if it dodges nerfs that other SMGs get. It’s fucking crazy strong
Btw, started watching you back in Season the Lost and you inspired me to start playing PvP again. Now I have 11 We Rans and 1 in IB, so 12 total. Keep up the good content
You know what the best and worst parts about wallah‘s vids are. 1 I get extremely pumped up to play some PVP. 2 I immediately get reminded that I‘m not this good and get stomped online.
Idk why but it has been a Sweet Business user in every Iron Banner in every match 😫 But I’ve been grinding the auto with Volt shot and the SMG with Destabilizing for PVE. Got a Zen moment Kill Clip roll that felt great on controller.
Seeing more Zen Moment made me look at my vault for any Zen rolls, sadly I seem to have deleted practically every one I got lmao. However, I was curious what guns could get Zen and while looking into that I thought about Dynamic Sway. After its buff seasons back its been decent, working like Target Lock but activates fully within 10 bullets, increasing stability + accuracy instead of damage. Each bullets is -5% accuracy cone size, -10% accuracy cone growth, and 1 stability, maxing at -50% Accuracy cone size, -100% cone growth, and 10 stability. I wanted to know if any guns could roll both and while its extremely limited, there are a few guns that can get both Zen and Dynamic. Hero's Burden is one and probably the one only one people will be getting this season, every other primary that can roll both perks either has them in the same column (Age-Old Bond, Sorrows Verse, Summoner), comes from limited/sunset activity or the perk is sunset on that gun meaning it cant drop (Every Waking Moment, False Promises, Cold Front), or the gun is sunset and cant drop/cant be used in leveled content (Antiope, Pluperfect, Hard Truths, Breath of the Dragon, Trackless Waste). Pretty big bummer tbh, the more I grind Destiny the more I get upset at what isnt possible to get anymore. If anyone has this roll on any of those guns listed, I would be very interested in how said gun feels. According to my math (Low balling Zen Moments numbers because they arent known so (#) are my guess, Reduces Weapon Recoil by (2)%, Grants (2)% Flinch Resistance, Reduces Visual Weapon Shake, Removes Reticle Bounce. Caps at 5) starting on the 6th bullet, so when Zen is capped, a player should have 10% reduced recoil + 10% flinch resist, a 50% reduction on accuracy bloom, 25% reduction to their accuracy cone size, and 5 extra stability. Technically, if Dynamic Sway is high or close to max when Zen hits max, youd be receiving extra flinch resistance and reduced recoil from it as well as Zen. I genuinely cant imagine a better dueling perk combo for myself atm, essentially any one on one gun fight should have you almost never missing the target if you arent hitting their head. Zen and Tap the Trigger also sounds interesting for the fastest RPM guns, letting Taps +40 stability, -50% recoil, and -10% accuracy cone help max Zen stacks and makes up for it at the start of fights so the gun feels more consistent instead of having to fire for a second before the gun feels the best.
@@senceey3023 not sure if its in the pool, but you can get shaders from the eververse store for bright dust. This resets weekly, so just check and wait until it comes around. Not really a method to it, wish i could help you more, but how shaders are aquired right now is kinda odd so sorry.
Not having too much trouble against smgs lately I've been having a great time using rose playing smart ranges, peek shooting, playing a little wiser...after 3 months fighting the same battle I've learned a few things I've adapted😄
these bandwagon sheep are boring af no imagination, no creativity, just use the most powerfull tools available to win at all costs in a casual game...screams insecurity🥱🙄
All they gotta do is swap to a snipe and get rid of you, I'm pretty proficient with HCs but they are pretty much throwing guns atm, you can't go really hard and you cant lane either with them.
@fotis3v bro I'm not out to "go hard" I'm out to have fun I'm not going mlg mode in control😆 snipe, shotty, fusion name your poison, I can hold my own and switch it up on the fly when needed.
also FYI for those who may not know, this SMG is the ONLY primary weapon that can roll with Destabilising Rounds, grab yourself a roll with it if possible and go melt those enemies.
Destabilising rounds are on kill effect aka useless in most content rn considering you barely scrape enemies at -15 that legend is everywhere. Double special and ability builds are better.
Target Lock on the auto won't do anything for you since it takes too long to activate in PvP. I'm told it works based on the percentage of your mag that hits and autos take longer to activate the perk than SMGs because of that. Enhanced just ups the damage not the activate time so it won't help either. I just crafted mine with Zen and Eye of the Storm and will be trying that out as soon as I get some IB time. I think my forward path will have it beat though because the sights give more zoom and thus way more range but this dueling roll should have its place.
How is it possible that out of 6 iron banner engrams 3 where class items like holy crap not only you get 1 engram every 20 games but also they only give u shit
@@TGI45 I mean they aren't like crazy good like Wallah they just play the game and are above average. Both very nice people tho. And Lucky gets a lot of hate that is unwarranted because of personal things that aren't anyone's business lol
Nerf target lock on smg's and remove rangefinder from aggressives, that should have been the play. The ttk has been the same since like forsaken, it was only when they crept closer to auto ranges that they became a problem. I love aggressives and sitting at like 19-21m was perfect for them.
Also thanks to cool guy for letting me do a video with his name in da title! 😂❤ very cool guy :p sorry I know I’m cringe
gary is muy guapo but to me his voice sound like a dad or bald person
@@garvantia8296 lol I love your description.
"A dad or a bald person"
I don't know why but that's wholesome
We need the shader setup
How could you call me a JIM Wallah I was the floating warlock living his dreams
What shader is this
You actually got me with that mid-vid outtro, I was like 'Well that was a short one' but then it kept going and was then like 'Aaaaaahhh, he got me'.
😂
I read this comment watched the vid and stilll got caught 💀
Cool guy is a student of the game
facts!
He’s so good he can even use the Cerberus *cough cough
Finally people catching onto zen moment, it’s such an underrated perk after the buff
It’s an S+ tier perk, the anti flinch is so strong on higher ROF
Been using it for years. Controller player.
My favourite Misfit back in Joker's Wild was a Zen Moment Roll, it's always been top tier, yeah.
@@angelousmortis8041 man I used too love that 720 gun!
It's actually insane, gnawing hunger already has baby recoil zen just turns it into a lazer beam
Cool guy don’t miss
Syncopation with enhanced Zen moment, Headseeker and HiCal rounds is awesome
Been slowly leveling mine up and may have to try that out
CoolGuy is the gigabrain of this community bro, I've come to love the weapons of this game more and more because of it.
Wallah got LUCKY10P at 5:17 and didn’t even make a bit about it lol.
You got me good with that fake ending...
I found an Auto called Coronach-22 with target lock, momentum zen, ricochet and extended barrel that really surprised me. Aside from Suros Regime, no auto felt consistent until I tried this one. Considering it's not an auto meta, the gun is really so much fun to use and with zen moment it feels like nothing can flinch you (playing on 50 res).
Love coronach-22 it carried me pretty hard in lightfall campaign when i was running a solar build
Wallah you should try an HC with zen, not sure how good it is on MnK, but the flinch literally gets deleted. Austringer and Nation of Beasts can roll with it
Zen moment + Target Lock is pog on Perpetualis, I can attest at least on controller feels super sticky. It's definitely the one I'm crafting.
Day 243: Cerberus +1 deserves a vid...
One day.
Keep going
The commitment
see ya on day 500 my brotha
@@Optclzr Always
can someone please tell me what shader Wallah uses on his hunter? thanks :)
It was always strong it's just that people prefer meta over fun,I've been using it forever on gnawing hunger,it's extremely underrated
What a coincidence I just got done using a 70 range zen moment roll of this thing.
This thing will be borderline meta if it dodges nerfs that other SMGs get. It’s fucking crazy strong
yo that pulse you got is perfect.
Btw, started watching you back in Season the Lost and you inspired me to start playing PvP again. Now I have 11 We Rans and 1 in IB, so 12 total. Keep up the good content
Damn, I still dont even have one 😔
I have like 700 :( still just 1 50 streak
I've got 1 in IB but that's it, its rough out here
@@rustaholic2546 I got mine Tuesday by being the best player and using Jade Rabbit
@@Subsistence69 you'll get there friend. I believe in you.
You know what the best and worst parts about wallah‘s vids are. 1 I get extremely pumped up to play some PVP. 2 I immediately get reminded that I‘m not this good and get stomped online.
Same 😅😢
got one of these when it first came back with zen moment and kill clip. it absolutely shreds.
"We got it kinda.."? That Autumn Wind is surely a 5 out of 5.
what shader is that
what is the shader and how do we get it? :)
Idk why but it has been a Sweet Business user in every Iron Banner in every match 😫
But I’ve been grinding the auto with Volt shot and the SMG with Destabilizing for PVE. Got a Zen moment Kill Clip roll that felt great on controller.
what shader is that on your armor?
5:25 really had to give me flashbacks to this beautiful song 😢
I still have a steady hand with Zen Moment and Iron Grip on it
I call it the Immovable object now, no fucking way that gun is getting flinched
the little giggle at 2:22 was so cute :3
I had an old Hero's Burden with zen moment and tap the trigger, it slapped so hard on console I called it "the cheater smg"
Seeing more Zen Moment made me look at my vault for any Zen rolls, sadly I seem to have deleted practically every one I got lmao. However, I was curious what guns could get Zen and while looking into that I thought about Dynamic Sway. After its buff seasons back its been decent, working like Target Lock but activates fully within 10 bullets, increasing stability + accuracy instead of damage. Each bullets is -5% accuracy cone size, -10% accuracy cone growth, and 1 stability, maxing at -50% Accuracy cone size, -100% cone growth, and 10 stability. I wanted to know if any guns could roll both and while its extremely limited, there are a few guns that can get both Zen and Dynamic. Hero's Burden is one and probably the one only one people will be getting this season, every other primary that can roll both perks either has them in the same column (Age-Old Bond, Sorrows Verse, Summoner), comes from limited/sunset activity or the perk is sunset on that gun meaning it cant drop (Every Waking Moment, False Promises, Cold Front), or the gun is sunset and cant drop/cant be used in leveled content (Antiope, Pluperfect, Hard Truths, Breath of the Dragon, Trackless Waste). Pretty big bummer tbh, the more I grind Destiny the more I get upset at what isnt possible to get anymore. If anyone has this roll on any of those guns listed, I would be very interested in how said gun feels. According to my math (Low balling Zen Moments numbers because they arent known so (#) are my guess, Reduces Weapon Recoil by (2)%, Grants (2)% Flinch Resistance, Reduces Visual Weapon Shake, Removes Reticle Bounce. Caps at 5) starting on the 6th bullet, so when Zen is capped, a player should have 10% reduced recoil + 10% flinch resist, a 50% reduction on accuracy bloom, 25% reduction to their accuracy cone size, and 5 extra stability. Technically, if Dynamic Sway is high or close to max when Zen hits max, youd be receiving extra flinch resistance and reduced recoil from it as well as Zen. I genuinely cant imagine a better dueling perk combo for myself atm, essentially any one on one gun fight should have you almost never missing the target if you arent hitting their head. Zen and Tap the Trigger also sounds interesting for the fastest RPM guns, letting Taps +40 stability, -50% recoil, and -10% accuracy cone help max Zen stacks and makes up for it at the start of fights so the gun feels more consistent instead of having to fire for a second before the gun feels the best.
what shader do you use on your hunter?
Looks like Irradiant Charoite
@@Mizeriiii do you know how i can get it i just got back into destiny from like a year break
@@senceey3023 not sure if its in the pool, but you can get shaders from the eververse store for bright dust. This resets weekly, so just check and wait until it comes around. Not really a method to it, wish i could help you more, but how shaders are aquired right now is kinda odd so sorry.
@@senceey3023 It's currently in the Bright Dust store this week as of just now, if you wanted it still
Not having too much trouble against smgs lately I've been having a great time using rose playing smart ranges, peek shooting, playing a little wiser...after 3 months fighting the same battle I've learned a few things I've adapted😄
I’m doing this rn with igneous hammer it’s fun
these bandwagon sheep are boring af no imagination, no creativity, just use the most powerfull tools available to win at all costs in a casual game...screams insecurity🥱🙄
@@timothysimmons492 igneous hammer flinches me to the moon bruh, keep using it haha shits strong right now
All they gotta do is swap to a snipe and get rid of you, I'm pretty proficient with HCs but they are pretty much throwing guns atm, you can't go really hard and you cant lane either with them.
@fotis3v bro I'm not out to "go hard" I'm out to have fun I'm not going mlg mode in control😆 snipe, shotty, fusion name your poison, I can hold my own and switch it up on the fly when needed.
I have a cold denial with head seaker and zen moment and it feels very good if you want to try
Same, great roll
I have the exact same roll and was shocked how much zen smooths out the recoil. It's very noticeable on contoller.
Zen Moment on Retrofit Escepade is quite good. Locks your aim in place.
Will say, enhanced zen moment and enhanced target lock on perpetualis is being heavily slept on
whats that shader ??
also FYI for those who may not know, this SMG is the ONLY primary weapon that can roll with Destabilising Rounds, grab yourself a roll with it if possible and go melt those enemies.
Destabilising rounds are on kill effect aka useless in most content rn considering you barely scrape enemies at -15 that legend is everywhere.
Double special and ability builds are better.
Have an old summoner with range finder zen.
Coolguys right when he says it feels like you can't lose a dual
You don’t understand how fast I clicked this. Love the vids! 😁
My gnawing hunger is zen/ kc and it is an old one with drop mag...so spicy its incredible after I got the dust off her
Got the exact same roll, it reminds me of when autos were meta
Same
what is that shader ur using? it looks sick
What were you saying about Sixth Coyote? I just started using strand hunter and I've been running with that to pretty good effect.
Target Lock on the auto won't do anything for you since it takes too long to activate in PvP. I'm told it works based on the percentage of your mag that hits and autos take longer to activate the perk than SMGs because of that. Enhanced just ups the damage not the activate time so it won't help either.
I just crafted mine with Zen and Eye of the Storm and will be trying that out as soon as I get some IB time. I think my forward path will have it beat though because the sights give more zoom and thus way more range but this dueling roll should have its place.
Is that the new raid auto?
@@henrymccool the seasonal one
How is it possible that out of 6 iron banner engrams 3 where class items like holy crap not only you get 1 engram every 20 games but also they only give u shit
I assumed zen moment was always good so i farmed for a zen moment kill clip gnawing hunger back in Arrivals. Love that thing
Forever cursed with enjoying Destiny vids but never understanding how to play
Damn there's zero recoil on pc, I whish smgs or guns in general could be that steady on console.
I’ve got the heros burden with zen moment, iron grip, steady rounds and stability mw. It’s a laser on console
Damn I thought that was me getting shit on, but thankfully that’s another Mars lmao
What shader is that?
All I hear every moment is the sound of the immortal .
lol i like how they played Lucky and Dwayne
They got steamrolled too lol.
@@TGI45 I mean they aren't like crazy good like Wallah they just play the game and are above average. Both very nice people tho. And Lucky gets a lot of hate that is unwarranted because of personal things that aren't anyone's business lol
This video PERFECTLY shows the recoil difference between PC and Console! Regardless of Zen Moment or not.
Maybe I missed on this on a past video of yours but just out of curiosity how did you meet Gary? Btw call him Gary El Guapo hahaha
Nerf target lock on smg's and remove rangefinder from aggressives, that should have been the play. The ttk has been the same since like forsaken, it was only when they crept closer to auto ranges that they became a problem. I love aggressives and sitting at like 19-21m was perfect for them.
The auto with zen moment and eye of the storm seems like running aimbot, it sticks sooo good lol
Anyone been keeping track of how many autumn winds you've dismantled. I swear its the only crucible weapon to actually drop.
Same as blowout last season.
Good to see you were smashing that Luckyy 10p guy.
I gotta know what shader is that and can I still get it
3:42 Imoortal es em jey😂😂😂
Hey guys any is there any way of getting efrideet's iron cloak ornament as of now pls lmk.
What role was your fracthelyst or however you spell it
is that a old trials shader?
It’s Irradiant Charoite on his armour I think. Season of the Haunted Eververse
My god! That shader on your gun is broken! GGzz
what's the shader he's using?
Cool guy might've been the prophet of Zen Moment. But I am the prophet of Threat Level. It will rise to become the pinnacle of all shotguns
I have an old ikelos ver 2 shotgun with full bore accurised range MW pulse monitor elemental. keep meaning to try it after the shotty changes
Bro was abusy Luckyy with the suspends 😂
What shotgun does he use? Anybody know?
Any chance you might make a build video for your favorite weapons and builds in this sandbox? feels like there are a lot of options
god hunter strand is just the titanfall 2 pilot huh, good stuff
how are you hitting all your shots in the air with stompees?
5:20 LOL
Ya see, I have teams that shoot back instead of acting like they've never played before
3:20 "we got it, kind of" wtf are you on that is the best roll you can get perk for perk
Watching Wallahs video give me a massive migraine 😂😂😂 all the zig zagging my mind can't keep up
How many firstborns do I have to sacrifice for my shotguns to land 10% of the hits I see in this video?
Autum wind god roll vid? 👀
heros burden shader?
Can you do a vid on frostees since there more than likely going to be meta soon
they ain't callin him cool guy for nothing
Randomly, he gives a peak at that Autumn Wind...... that I can't get a good roll on! 🤬
Zen moment always been a low-key A pick and they buffed it lmao
Cant wait for when i eventually get a pc i can barely hit a shot when im in the air lol
I was not expecting face cam, cool. Also good vid man
Oh come on Wallah I got enhanced target lock on Rufus’s Fury
I have enhanced target lock on the perpetualis 🤦♂️but I did enhanced envious assassin
Do you still play with Rito?
Walluh=3mil iq +3 mil dpi. Holy moly
Clever outro the song is so good I have to stay
What is that shadder
Wait, there's no masterwork on that Perpetualis. 😮
I have a Zen moment kill clip horrors least Zen moment is great on it
"if you suspend with six coyote..." what?WHAT?😪
When’s the keyboard/hand cam dropping Wallah
My zen moment gnawing hunger is coming back hehehe
I have a messenger with zen moment and KC good thing I didn’t delete it 🙏🏽
Bro got ANOTHER god roll 💀🥲
7:56 wallsah confirmed
Why Gary got that E-boy hair