NCT Dance Ranking (23 members)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 พ.ค. 2024
- Tiers:
Tier 1: I’M SCREAMING
This tier includes dancers who reliably force a poorly suppressed shriek from my vocal cords with their spectacular musicality and dynamic choices. Technique is no longer the focus for these dancers, and so they are able to really converse with the audience. Other than Ryusei, I would put Jumpei from Alaventa and Bailey Sok in this category, just to name a few.
Tier 2: let me take some notes real quick.
While these dancers might not be technically on par with the ones in the previous tier, there are some very impressive aspects to their technique and musicality, and I’ve spent time figuring out how to incorporate their strengths into my own dancing. These individuals show a maturity in their performance that the dancers in the tiers below don’t have yet.
Tier 3: giving me an A without the +
The dancers in this category are consistent, and their technique is really solid, but their performance leaves me wanting something more, dynamically or otherwise.
Tier 4: she has her moments
These dancers have some noticeable gaps in their technique, but their potential is obvious in videos where the choreography particularly suits them.
Tier 5: employable, but it’s a scroll for me.
A lot of people who are unfamiliar with the dance world can only picture people like Bailey when they hear the term “professional”, but in reality, the dance industry offers a wide variety of jobs that allow for a range of ability just like any other field. The dancers here could ostensibly get professional jobs, but they wouldn’t have stood out enough for me to watch beyond the first couple seconds if they had popped up on my Instagram explore page before I knew who they were.
Tier 6: typical dance class vibes
These dancers would look at home in a dance class. They're not so inexperienced that they can't keep up, but they're not skilled enough for most professional dance jobs either.
Tier 7: can sort of do the choreo
This is probably the closest thing I have to a "beginner" tier. These dancers have relatively underdeveloped technique and struggle to move full out in open style choreography.
Music by Mark Generous, Jasper The Cat - Back to School - thmatc.co/?l=84A59151
00:00 Intro
00:33 Kun
01:07 Winwin
02:21 Doyoung
02:58 Xiaojun
03:38 Taeil
05:12 Hendery
06:26 Chenle
07:09 Johnny
08:23 Jungwoo
09:51 Sungchan
10:24 Lucas
12:05 Yuta
13:19 Jaemin
14:34 Jaehyun
18:36 Yangyang
19:13 Renjun
21:14 Taeyong
22:40 Jeno
23:39 Haechan
28:53 Ten
30:54 Jisung
35:18 Mark
37:59 Shotaro
40:57 Outro
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EDITING ERROR: The titlecard before Chenle should say "Tier 6", not "Tier 5".
NCT script (video and photo links included): docs.google.com/document/d/1q9uwYhYesiDiqn1DOpxDy0kIbJEz_lRI86sUYi4MTFE/edit?usp=sharing
Dance Rankings compiled: docs.google.com/document/d/1vB1FAQ3VOTWon4AHdPAhsfox1awYoSdUnCPZ-nsU4Nk/edit?usp=sharing
I found the bucket hair girl! She’s Noze from SWF!
have you watched ten's birthday dance practice? I can not believe he is only four th-cam.com/video/C3i_rzY5hVE/w-d-xo.html
@@huangmaobaimao I have already seen it. The reason it isn't included is because I edited his section before the Birthday dance practice came out.
I hope people take a moment to appreciate that Ten still has a good rank. The reason he is 4th is not that he is bad, but that the top 3 are just that good. This goes for all the members down the line.
@@lizziem.g2548 They won’t be on the list until I analyze their groups.
@@lizziem.g2548
my opinion:
1. Jimin (tier 4)
2. Taemin ( tier 5)
3. Kai ( tier 5)
haechan and shotaro's dancing are my favorite. so satisfying and hits the beat. they are light and fluid and have good balance and detail. special shoutout to jisung and his footwork ofc
The fact that Taeyong did not know anything about dance and had to learn from scratch...its impressive that he is one of the best Nct dancers and he has great stage precence .
His stylistic choices and attention to detail is outstanding
@@drenkard Totally agree😌
I mean- thats how you learn how to dance...
@@aenning yeah and not only did he learn how to dance but he also has this Natural charisma on stage and add his own style to both his dance and raps which makes him stand out
Again it kept reminding me that he's a pillar of nct.
Haechan Is really talented, and honestly I watch his fancam because it is satisfying I don't like dancer who put to much force, haechan makes it easy but when you try to dance it, it's so hard. mostly from who I know if they want to learn the choreography they go for haechan fancam because they said he give accurate dance and technique.
I am just so proud of him, he is the main vocalist but he is on top 5..
After watching Ten’s Birthday, he is now undeniably THE BEST dancer for me in nct
Facts. I’ve been watching Ten’s solos for quite some time. Ten is undeniably the best dancers in nct and rank in the top 10 among all idol dancers in kpop and that’s a fact.
shotaro is better
you can't complain with proffesional
@@xzrcy3579 i think its not right when we say whose better than another,bcs not every dance that Ten did,shotaro can follow.. like birthday.. the song was made for ten. I think no one can copy every detail movements,expressions,energy and feels that ten gave in that birthday dance practice. Everything was so beautiful.. if the standard is accurancy in moves,etc i dont think we can say that is the best.. i am agree when ten said that he delivered his feels through dances. He just not moves his body but u can feel his feelings through his dance and thats why i choosed him as my bias.. if u dont believe it,u can search some of his magical dances such as lovely, only one with boa,devils in hit the stage. Hes really the best performer in NCT no one can deny it! :)
CUZ HE'S YOUR BIAS😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@xzrcy3579 who is the professional here?
Litrally many kpop choreographers call ten as one of the top kpop dancers .
Haechan is the highest main vocalist that ranked at #5 for the best dancer in NCT 👏🏽 thanks for your clear explanation
Ten is also a main vocalist
@@wg213 I love the way Ten has evolved with his vocals. He's improved so much its crazy. He went from being a sub vocal to main in a couple years + main dancer? He's amazing
@@mar0445 fr the best!!
@@wg213 go praise him somewhere else, im here highlighting Haechan only
@@hunnyfifi I'm just telling you that he is not the highest main vocalist ranked here. So if you want to praise him no problem but use the good term or you will confuse others.
mark tends to be overlooked espeically for outsiders and people who dont know dance. few years ago i had only but a very superficial understanding of dancing and mark didnt really stand out to me but after professional dance training and gaining much more insight/experience i could finally see what was so fascinating and impressive about his dance and why he rightfully deserves his placement (in the open style category). his groove and style is simply nuts. stage presence has also had a really big breakthrough in recent comebacks imo.
Similar to me! I didn't get Mark's dancing at all when I was only doing ballet. It was only once I started house and hip-hop that I appreciated his technique.
I agree that Ten, Jisung, and Mark are pretty much interchangeable. I have 3 videos/shorts on this channel which include the three, and each time I've ranked them in a different order. 😂
@@KPOPDanceDeepDives it's funny how you just started dancing hip-hop but u deemed urself good enough to put these idols on tiers as if you have the authority.🙄 And the way you critiqued Ten's style tells me how you don't really understand what it means to integrate different elements from different genres to create a new style. Dance like all arts isn't fixed, it's ever evolving and those who only know how to follow set of rules or peoples standard and preferences will end up rigid and will not create something new. Master had always broken some rules to create new beautiful stuff. That's how it has always been. Ten is a master who found his color. All of NCT members have their own color but Ten is so well integrated he's like a rainbow 🌈.
@@arien_000I don't get the hate on op, as you have said, dance isn't fix so op can have her own standards as you have with yours. if you don't agree, then you can make your own video analyzing ten's dance. imo, op did great in objectively presenting the differences in their dances and she's clearly knowledgeable and knows what she's talking about.
@@nominstory sure. For you she has done well. For me she was terrible. For you this maybe some sort of a labor of love. For me it looks like a labor of inflated ego and ignorance. Just cuz the world is mostly democratic, doesn't mean everyone's opinion has the same weight. If you're fine having someone who is practically a beginner, lecture you then go ahead. I prefer to listen to people with real authority in the area. A few research here and there and some people are already impressed with themselves and think they are good enough to make a critical analysis worthy of people's time. It's like listening to a lecture on law from a law student whose only source is his books vs a real lawyer who has been seasoned by time and his experiences with several cases and lawyers.
@@arien_000 ten stans are deranged vgly
I’m crying at “A beanie and vans may give Jaehyun superpowers” 😂
Hahahahahaha
Haechan is literally a main dancer i found his dance so smooth and satisfying 💚 he deserves to be in top 5 SM should now give him a main dancer position 🐻
28:30 haechan choreographed his solo dance that he did on tour with “love sign” (which he also co produced and co wrote)
Haechan oh my god they really were not kidding when they labeled Haechan as "best dancer among vocalists and best vocalists among dancers". Every comeback I just find myself focusing on him especially with dance practices and individual fancams, like im not a dancer myself but i know for a fact that there choreos are very difficult but watching him doesn't make it feel that way. He looks so light on his feet and very graceful with his movements. And all those angles you pointed, he always had the best body lines amongst all of them when dancing and his crazyyy footworks and his hips!! His hips never lie like there are certain nct choreos that focus on the shoulders but he always tries to include his hips which is so pleasing to the eye. And recently the 2baddies dance practice, in the 2nd chorus, he's the only one really popping off his chest and it makes it look so soo good. Thank you for putting light into his name because personally I really think he should be one of the main dancers. But if not, he is indeed higher than all of those leads.
Buttt this whole video, thank you so much for putting so much time into making this and doing your research. Personally, I think Ten deserves #2 especially up to now with his Birthday choreography.
Ten is also a vocalist and a dancer tho, I agree with the vocalist and dancers but not with the dancer and vocalist
Edit: W8 nvm, Jungwoo is also a lead dancer so haechan isn't the best vocalist among the dancers either lol
Still a clear No 2 (3 if Jaehyun is also a lead dancer lol) for both ways is already huge
@@Oliver-uz1fs hey it's the netizens who branded him that, you can search for a lot of articles :)) also this is my Own Personal opinion, you could make your Own comment if you want.
@@Oliver-uz1fs HC is not main dancer for any subunit (lead dancer for 127, used to be lead dancer in Dream); so him a main vocalist being in the top 5 is pretty high even coming from me - a sunflower.
I’ve always love Ten as a performer because like his name, he’s perfect ✨ especially because he’s not even a Korean and yet, he got several opportunities as solo artist. At least, SM learnt their lessons 😌
Thank you for this ❤️
haechan is my go through when it comes to fancam 😭
Love the Mark appreciation he’s literally so good but his dancing is not really talked about because he’s such an amazing rapper but he’s for sure an ace. Also, I agree that in lemonade he for sure shined the best I couldn’t take my eyes off him. Love everything you said and how detailed your analysis is!
It's so exciting to watch Shotaro's individual expression grow on stage. I worry the training will change his personal style physically, way too many SM dancers are hunched over going all the way back to TVXQ.
you can really tell who the company trained from scratch and who came in with prior experience/experience in other styles!! taeyong and mark being the foremost examples of this
Renjun's dancing is so underrated, thank you for pointing out Renjun's dancing ability
having seen most if not all of shotaro's pre/post-debut dance clips i will unbiasedly say he deserves #1. the isolations in his neck, chest, and hips are impeccable, the way he hits every beat with ease (it's so satisfying), he's such a fun dancer to watch, i can rewatch his dancing clips over and over and never get sick of them. he has power, fluidity, agility, etc. he makes me think how does a human body move like that? kpop stans like to say he has no versatility (which isn't true) it's just that he hasn't gotten the platform to show it yet. which is why i neeeeed mnet to do a hit the stage 2! anyway, i throughly enjoyed this video, entertaining while informative! you dont see all members nct rankings on here often so really appreciate the time and effort that went into this!
Thank you!
What you said at the end of Haechan's section was what I was thinking about, I think haechan would do awesomely in ballet and/or contemporary dance, he looks so elegant and fine
He used to do ballet and contemporary (also jazz, sports dance and "everything" according to him)
Ten and Mark has got to be two of my favorite kpop dancers! Taemin being the first ofc :)
Regarding Renjun, I remember seeing a comment from a video a long time ago that said that if you wanted to learn the choreography, just look at Renjun since he executes every move with such precision, which I think describes him really well.
doyoung not last!!!! *oprah gif* also, it got me a bit emotional how clear the appreciation youve got for haechans dancing comes accross even if hes not ranked first (and pretty much everyone for that matter but hes got the longest section and it felt pretty hypnotizing to watch) youve got such a pretty way to highlight not only anyones particular strengths or attributes but also just their overall identity as performers and dancers, and the fact that you manage that with a 23 member group is a bit mindblowing ngl
Thank you so much! 😭
I’m glad not everybody hates this video. ☠️😂
I love this comment!!!
bro how is there so little mention to the creator of this vid??? as a ballet and contemp dancer i’ve always wanted to get into more hip hop styles so this video was really interesting
Thank you so much for this comment! Transitioning from ballet to house has been a very challenging process, but it’s also given me much more insight into dance as a whole.
Good luck!
haechan's dancing is soooo beautiful.. idk how to describe it 😭
Skills are not something you are born with, but something you continue to hone through careful stretching and years of basic training, so im happy that Shotaro's skills have been recognized
Jaehyun's inconsistency reminds me of idols like ryujin, winter and Jennie where they either have really great fancams one day but the next underextend their movements, shortcut them and don't try as much. And I don't think it has much relation to live singing either, some idols are just like that even if at their best, they are pretty good dancers.
jennie isn't a great dancer, so u cant compare him to her. jennie is either she knows the choreo or not and if she wants to sing passionately or not
@@oliviaokpara7980 I'm not comparing their dance skills, I'm comparing the nature of their inconsistencies. And Jennie has good body locks, fluidity, isolations and sense of shape when she's at her best, her problem with inconsistentcy is far worse than the other 3 mentioned but at her best, she can showcase some good skills which unfortunately get overshadowed by the fact that she doesn't try nearly as hard like 70% of the time
I really like this list. I feel like you covered haechan’s dancing really well like actually. 🙏🏾
Thanks for watching!
I love Haechan's style od dancing, I really like watching his fancams
watching this as a non-dancer is fun because i already noticed most of this intuitively, but didn't have the words to describe it-- so when you explain why someone looks awkward doing a certain move, i'm like OH of course! lol
Omg the details explaination about haechan, you really got the point. He's truly amazing. Watching him dancing looks so relaxing, like that smooth moves. Omg, he's main dancer for sure
haechan dances so beautifully 😭 nice viiiiid
Don't really follow boy groups but this was still a really interesting watch! Haechan has the most captivating dance style for me I think
Interested to hear your thoughts on this new girl group Queenz Eye. They choreographed some of their choreos on their TH-cam and one of their members, Wonchae, trained under WM for a long time, so I'm curious if she shares any dancing quirks with, say, Yuto or Chaeyeon
I think the reason Heachan does not drop his hips too much are due to his ankle, knee and back injury which he suffered quite early on. He even missed concerts due to that.
But it's good to see him get recognized 😌 🙌
Ngl the way people attack the ranking instead of the comments made make it really clear that if the same stuff was said for every member, but it was just ordered in terms of the members' age (an analysis rather than a ranking), people would have literally no problem with this because Ten and Taeyong were still both praised a lot. It's so obvious people are so hung up about the exact numerical rankings and aren't really here to listen. If they actually watched the video instead of skipping through each ranking they would see that literally every member in the top ten is praised quite a lot. Another thing is that people seem to think Ten or Taeyong being ranked below others is an insult to their skills, when in fact it's more of a compliment to NCT as a whole that there are so many good dancers in there. Also, just because this ranking says something different to your opinion does not mean you have to change your opinion. If you don't think Ten or Taeyong or anyone should be placed where they are, that's completely fine. Make your own ranking video with your own, valid, reasoning. Write your own comment with your own, valid, reasoning in your own words, not the words of some other person. No need to insult the person behind this video and drag them for having a difference in opinion.
hit the nail on the head!
Fantastic comment.
Sorry, but WayV's justifications in the video don't make sense to me. Actually, I do think the author didn't do a proper research at WayV's part.
Besides that, the rest seems accurate
@@ikaru5089 this.
I don't know anything about dancing so it's good to learn with your videos, I'm not a nctzen but I really like ten's dance, personally he would be my number 1.
thanks for your hard work.
Thank you for watching!
Agreed
I wish you had a community tab like sootzubae does for vocals. I think the community would be very happy about it 😩
i wish she would release videos almost every month or so 😔
judging by how toxic fans are here, i dont think thats the good idea lol.
Haechan used to study ballet too! Maybe that's why his dance moves are so elegant and precise
My renjun deserves the love, his really good dancer though, Taeyong also is one of my favorites dancer in kpop add up to his charisma, his really born to be an idol I really hypnotized the way he perform on stage ily
I was looking forward to this!!!! kuns my favorite i expected it but i laughed a little when he placed 23rd
I imagine you've heard this a lot alr but I really appreciate the specifity and detail with which you evaluate which member. i love hearing ab your personal favorites and observations too! keep up the good work
Thank you! I'm glad you enjoyed it.
Girl you worked really hard to give us these ranking so a very big thank you and now plzz take some rest
You explained perfectly why Jisung is the only male idol I can watch fancams of. I always feel uncomfortable seeing male idols, I get this vibe that they're trying to seduce me all the time (which is not a bad thing, its just not my thing) but Jisung always looks like he's just having the time of his life while dancing, he doesn't do it for the audience he does it for himself and I love it
I feel similarly about this with all of the NCT DREAM members. I feel like they’re just having fun executing the choreography and not going overboard or trying to be something they’re not. Their stage presence can be quite sweet, charismatic, engaging, occasionally sexy but mostly just fun and their fancams reflect this a lot. I’ve seen other boy group’s fancams and something about most of them or at least a good handful just feel a little contrived or disingenuous with their facial expressions. Just my thoughts anyway
Jisung in particular has a mischievous and cocky confidence that suits him a lot and meshes well with a lot of their choreographies especially Go and Hot Sauce
well, you text is talking about Jisung but it seems like you are talking about renjun lol
its more like Renjun than Jisung this text
@@dproductions7293 you would benefit from writing with correct grammar… I have no clue what you’re meaning to say
yes!!! im usually okay with maintaining eye contact but smth abt male idol fancams is often very uncomfortable..... sexy expressions are fine imo if they seem to come naturally to the performer, but like the other comments said, most idols make it feel so forced/overboard.. so seeing jisung use whatever expressions he's feeling in the moment has always felt rly sincere + refreshing to me
i also really love how jisung sets boundaries in his performances.. if he isn't comfortable with a choreography move he adjusts it to fit himself and i really admire that. for example, he might omit or de-emphasize/desexualize hip thrusts, which ive always really respected since i know i wouldn't be comfortable performing similar dance moves.
idk, i might be projecting, but it's very comforting to see him stick to what he wants to do, even if its subtle.. considering how many celebrities (in any industry, not just kpop) tend to muffle their discomfort bc of fan/media pressure, i think idols setting small changes like this are really important
I'm so glad you paid attention to Jeno and pointed out what actually makes him stand out as a performer. Since I've been an NCTzen, nobody has really given him the credit and praise he deserves for being one of the top performers in the brand. Like they do acknowledge that he's a good dancer but never really mentioned any quality (at all) that made them think that way. I've witnessed a lot people saying he's only a good dancer "just because" he's putting more power and has more energy than the others. Some even go as far as saying he's just overdancing to make it look like he's good. Although he's become one of the most biased members these recent years, I can't help but notice he's still one of the underappreciated ones :(
Btw I thought he'd be around 8/9 based on your hints but I'm glad you also took time to watch his Villain performance!
he is indeed underappreciated, it’s either people too focusing on his visuals or they dont focus at him at all when he’s such a good dancer and performer. they prefer to focus on his mistake more (that he only did once a blue moon) and label him bad dancer when other members also do lots of mistakes 🤷🏻♀️
Thanks!
And yeah, I’ve noticed that with energetic performers, people tend to start and stop with a very lukewarm “so-and-so is a powerful dancer”. (I’m admittedly guilty of doing this is the past.)
Power tends not to be addressed as another useful quality to expand your range of expression, but rather as something you put on top of technique. I don’t like this perspective because it dismissed the technique needed to create power, as well as the ways in which power can be an artistic choice.
@@jenlee836 He is indeed doesn't have much fluidity compared to someone like Renjun or Haechan but I've seen people call him stiff dancer and only overdancing like ??? I do agree that some movement is better if he adds some fluidity but it is not something that he must to do if it means he needs to sacrifice his own style. And the fact that I could name more NCT dancers who is more stiff than him but never labeled as one lol
@@jenlee836 yup. just search 엔시티 안무 실수 on youtube and you'll find kfans posted other members' choreo mistake
Honestly, even if I don’t entirely agree with the ranking, I’m grateful for the intense analysis you put into the ranking. It’s clear you did a lot of research, so thank you for posting this because I’ve been waiting for a comprehensive dance ranking. ❤
I just wanted to thank you for the UNGODLY amount of work you put in these videos every time. I'm a freelance dancer and I currently don't have a way to pay for dance classes or a dance school, so these videos almost work as a "free lesson" for me to help me think about and improve my dancing. It also helps because since I mainly dance to kpop I tend to think that they are these perfect dancing machines because I don't have the technique to point out the mistakes they make (because they are you know .. humans) and also hearing stories from someone like you who has received professional training but still struggles because well you never stop learning and improving!
Sooo yes, thank you again, I hope you know that these videos are not only very entertaining but also inspiring to people like me :) lots of love ❤️
Wow, that means so much! I understand how hard it is to learn on your own, so I'm glad these videos can provide some help!.
no literally i use these as dance lessons too cuz idk where to actually get dance lessons 😭
Wasted time because the ranking in this video is wrong
For the Krumping part: groove is a very important aspect of krump, and there is a specific groove that you learn, which is a lot less relaxed than hip hop or house grooves.
As for Taeyong, I'm almost sure that the reason he developed so much tension is due to his back injury during his trainee day's (and looking at the neck tension when he dances makes me feel bad for him). He hasn't developed the underlying strength to fall back onto, so he overcompensates with the tension to keep everything in place. If he releases, he would probably be in more pain as those wrongly activated muscles are all he can rely on. It's one of the draw backs for SM's recent training style imo, where the unique quirks get favored over foundation. The only solution would be to relearn some things fundamentally, and we all know that won't be happening.
I'm glad you put Xiaojun and Jungwoo in those ranks, I often feel like fans rank them higher than they are based on their power or angles, without seeing the lacking underlying technique. Also nice that Taeil and Lucas aren't last as per their reputation lol, they do seem to have potential. Yuta has nice movement quality and a lot of style imo, this combination of strength and minimal movement feels so familiar from somewhere, but I can't put my finger on it. Him and Hendery are two prime examples of control based dancers, they won't groove to save their life but they do have a noticeable skillset. Whether that is neutral or bad is something popping dancers have been arguing about since the rise of dubstep music, but that's another topic. I never thought of Jeno as a groovy dancer, maybe I should pay some attention to that, nice video!
Thanks for that bit about krumping!
Yes, that could explain his tension.
I never thought of Jeno as a groovy dancer either, until the Villain practice. Then when I went back to watch is other stuff, I was like ohhh, okay.
Overall, 5/5 comment! Thanks. 😅
Yeah I saw someone ranking Jungwoo higher than Haechan and my eyeballs dropped
Me too...I never thought Jeno as a groovy dancer ....
Taeyong literally has the strongest core in all of NCT, and can do moves others can't. and he's the 2nd strongest neo. you saying 'he hasn't developed underlying strength' is utter bs bcs he has amazing core strength so..
Great video as always. I’ve been into NCT Dream lately & one of the main reasons is because of how captivating I find them as dancers and performers. Mark and Jisung are so different in style but both equally fun to watch. I had noticed Jisung looks down a lot but hadn’t really thought about it in the way you do and it now makes sense to me how he remains captivating despite not making eye contact like a lot of charismatic idols do. Kudos to their vocal line as well-like you said, NCT seems to have a strong distinction between vocalists and dancers but Dream’s vocalists bridge that gap pretty well.
haechan did choreograph a short sequence during his dance break in love sign, you might wanna check that out?
23 members. You are so patient. Thank you so much for this❤️
Ohhhh it is glad to see Chenle in GMA dance practice is also included. Like when his solo dance break appears I was like I don't remember if anyone in Dream have this dancing styles and when I see the fancam my reaction immediately is THAT'S CHENLE?? like I know he is never in the worst tier for the whole NCT but like that just surprising me a lot since he either improved tremendously or just rarely showing his dancing potential he always has.
This dancing ranking is such a fresh breath air compared to the usual nct dance ranking videos. I always think almost the entire of NCT Dream is undeserved to be put quite low considering how good they actually are.
That recent NCT Dream dance practice really impressed me. I realized how good every single one of them are. As a group, they might be the strongest in K-pop.
@@KPOPDanceDeepDives yes they are 😭
@@KPOPDanceDeepDives yeah, some nctzens still have mindset that Dream only have good synchronization skills but lack of individual standout (like Gfriend) but in reality Dream members already strong individually that also have outstanding sense of synchronization. That's insane
I've recently noticed Chenle puts a lot of energy when he dances during other members are singing their part in show performances and dance practices and basically as long as he doesn't sing. There's a bit in the prechorus in hello future dance practice in which he puts a lot of precision and details, it's really lovely
Thank you so much! This is a great video! Haechan's dancing is so good! He has this smoothness and natural flow. Great facial expressions. He knows when and where to use his energy. Haechan doesn’t overdo dance moves and that's how he looks so effortless dancing. I'm so confused why he's not a lead dancer in NCT Dream anymore...
Thanks for watching!
i guess because of the over dependence on him as a main vocalist in dream? just looking at last year itself and hot sauce (their 1st full album) there are some songs in there that are just REALLY hard to sing, compared to the relatively easier songs they released prior to 2021 in their minis. So I guess they need him more as a main vocalist now than they ever have before
@@Tedybearrara HAECHAN IS BETTER THAN THE NCT DREAM MAIN DANCER BECAUSE OF RATING ?? WHAT RATING?? SALES ?? IS THAT HOW MAIN DANCER SHOUD BE IDENTIFIED? LOL
Tbh I don't think dance position is matter anymore in Dream lol. If anything he leads more dance break or become center chorus more than Renjun who is one of the official lead
he still is the Lead dancer and Main vocalist in 127, Dream, and U
would love to see a kep1er ranking from you! ❤ i love how you go into detail in your analyses
Jeno, Lucas and Jungwoo are the “trio plot twists”😂😂😂
I guess correct the bottom 3 and the top 3🎉🎉🎉
Congratulations on this incredible video❤❤❤
This was a life changing experience! Thank your for the video♥️
Thank you for watching!!
I've been waiting for this for a long time I'm so fucking excited
haechan did take part in choreographing his little solo dance during love sign i think he knows what his strengths in dance is and he fully utilized that in his solo dance part
This is such a genuinely high quality video. Thank you for putting in so much effort to find the clips! It was super informative and interesting :)
Thank you very much for all your work!! I have waited this for super long! ❤
Oh my god the Dreamies are so good! 😍😍
They are the real definition of "young and scary" 😂😂🤣🤣
Love these types of videos so much.
I agree with the list.
Not surprised by shotaro, he is a professional dancer, before being an idol.
So happy people are seeing how great Haechan is as a performer.
Dreamies are all great performers
They really are!
Holy--- I only realized it's about 40min long when u mentioned it at the end 😅 thank you for this !! And god I love Mark 🥺
Wow, high praise! Thank you for watching!
haechan's dance is entertaining to watch, superstar aura
the bucket hat girl in taemin's advice dance practice is noze from wayb. she particpated in street woman fighter if you want to watch more videos of her !
thank you for your hard work ! can’t wait to discover this hehe
related to 42:22
I didn't know that nmixx members had improved so much, would you mind making a video of them in the future? maybe when they have already released two or three more comebacks...
Whatever, I loved the video. My favorite dancer by far is Heachan, her moves are so aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah...😪😪😪😪😪 you deserve a monument for this work of art
I didn't realize I had shifted the NMIXX clip so far over that it now just plays in silence. Whoops. 🧍♂
Thank you so much for watching!
Ah, it was so nice seeing jeno with key here. The villain choreo is so fun. I’m curious if you have a shinee video - I’ll go look after this.
thank you so much for your video! i've been so glad to discover you these past few months, as you have taught me a lot about dance. your observations and comparisons to other dancers you've watched have been quite eye--opening, such as on body alignments in pauses, mina's stiff ballet technique and lisa's tension on her arms when she dances etc.
if i may humbly pose a suggestion, i would love if you either 1) made a video explaining all these techniques (ie body alignment, grooves, power, locks, etc) with examples of different dancers or 2) explain more elaborately in whatever videos you make what these are before detailing it on a dancer, as it would help a lot more! as a noob, i found it very difficult to grasp a lot of dance concepts.
finally, i wonder if you'd look at Exo Lay? I'm aware you've seen Kai before and was wondering what your thoughts on Lay was? He participated in a chinese street dance show called Street Dance of China where there are clips of him krumping and a little bit of locking and other styles.
also, i would love to hear you talk more about some of your fave dancers in more detail and showing us your fave clips of them! i myself am trying to get to know more dancers and would appreciate a video or a post about it! thank you for your hard work once again~
1) Noted.
2) I haven't seen enough from Lay to formulate an in depth opinion, but he's a good dancer. It's interesting to see an idol incorporate so much krumping into his choreography.
Thanks for watching!
Thank u for ur effort!
tbh I was a little surprised of how u ranked the last 5 ones and especially ten😅
Ten's gonna get me KILLED. I hope people take a moment to appreciate that he still has a good rank. The reason he is 4th is not that he is bad, but that the top 3 are just that good. This goes for all the members down the line.
i'd really love if kddd's comeback was with a newjeans ranking or with kep1er (i dream till this day with a deep analysis about hikaru and dayeon)
ngl my jaw dropped to see xiaojun that low but this isn't for idol/performing ranking so it was interesting to hear your reasoning. i was also expecting taeyong higher given his general acknowledgement in the industry as a dancer. im glad yangyang, renjun and chenle are higher here, i think they're both quite underrated.
i have also noticed wayv tend to be less in sync, but never really sure why exactly.
Thank you so so much for making this video. I have always wanted to learn more about each member’s dancing skills and technique. Please create more content like this.
as a non-dancer who loves choreo + analysis, this video is such a treat!!! other comments have perfectly explained my thoughts on how concise, thoughtful, and detailed each section is, im glad to see so much love for this video
Wow, thank you so much for this in-depth comment!
I love the way you describe his hands/wrists. 😂
Kudos to everyone who watched this video fully with NO skips because I did looool
Appreciate it. 💪
are you the same person i replied to before? why do i keep getting jump scared by your pfp?
@@nanarae2921 SSKSKSKSKSSKSKDKSK 90% me looool
I did too, this is such an excellent analysis
Appreciate all the efforts and time you put in this video. Love it💚. And Haechannie in top 5 love it more💚💚.
So Jaehyun's issue is mainly consistency (which I understand). I think his confidence in his performance fluctuates which is unfortunate but when he is feeling it, it really is a joy to watch him (for me at least). So if he fixed his consistency issues, would his ranking change? And if yes, where would you place him? And yeah I thought I was the only one who noticed how much more comfortable he is when he's wearing a beanie and vans (and baggy pants) 😁
Edit: And I don't know if it's just me but he seemed a lot more confident and consistent during his rookie days. Not saying this is the definite truth but he's mentioned how he felt pressure to be perfect all the time. I noticed that the less popular he was in his rookie days, the more comfortable he was to be openly playful and carefree. Maybe that might be playing into his confidence in performing as well? If he didn't have this feeling of pressure in looking visually perfect all the time, would he be more laid back and confident in showing his personal artistry like he was before? I personally think he has some potential groove when he's very relaxed but that's just what I see 🤷🏻♀️. But yeah Shotaro is great and Mark's groove makes him such a standout dancer and Jisung is so clean to watch (especially loved watching his fancam in Ridin')
His rank would probably go up. I actually initially had him as 5th in NCT.
I can't agree or disagree with your theory, but it's an interesting thought!
@@KPOPDanceDeepDives so if he were more consistently at his best, he'd be 5? And yeah it's just a theory but it's just something I noticed throughout his progression in popularity that he seems less comfortable in expressing himself like he did before in his rookie days. If I'm correct I think he'd still be considered a rookie in 2018 and personally I really thought one of his best performances was during Boss. And I agree he's pretty good at traveling, it's fun to watch him travel through the stage 😁
@@KPOPDanceDeepDives You have to keep in mind that dancing is a form of expression, if Jaehyun lacks consistency and enthusiasm in his dance then he shouldn't even be in the top 10....... If you enter a dance competition you would need to show spirit and express story-telling in a performance which i can't even envision that from him. He's definitely top 5 in vocal category though.
I don't think it's a confiance issue as much as not trying hard/not being THAT passionate, imo Jaehyun is a bit of a chronic underperformer and have many performance where he is not putting much energy and looks like he don't particularly wants to be here? ( in a more bored than scared type of way)
also i love that dream are such a highly skilled unit! usually when idols debut so young they skip the foundations but you can really tell each member has worked so hard to dance well and they make such a good team
I also love how you can noticeably show their growth too as dancers. Like in debut-early eras while they still doing very well, they are more like the group who prioritize synchronization over individual style. However as time goes they start to gradually showing more different areas to growth individually to the point how strong they are and on top of that definitely they still maintain the synchronization like it’s part of their brand too
this video was interesting at all times. I appreciate all the research and work you put into it, thank you!!
the video-essayification of dance rankings
i think im gonna rewatch it the information still needs to process w
I politely disagree with this video ranking. Especially with the arrangement of the top 5.
Thank you for being polite.
Their dance line is crazy 🤪
They are so good 😭😭😭
Hell, wish I could dance like that 😠😡😤
The dancer at 34:18 is Noze. She was in street woman fighter and is also apart of a dance crew called wayb
That's Noze?! I didn't recognize her. 😂
Omg this is AMAZING! I never imagined learning so much more about dancing by being a fan of NCT🤣The detailed break down and especially the side-to-side comparisons are super helpful to me as a beginner dancer! Thank you soooo much for your huge effort!! ❤❤
Glad you found it informative!
Ok i survived, i am alive to witness this video, I'm starting it just now and the excitement is erupting within,thank u honestly and earnest, I'll get to watching now
I've watched a lot of dance analysis of nct and this is the best i've seen so far ❤ thanks so much 💕
Omg i just realized that the ‘randomly placed’ numbers in your tier list/ranking docs are the nct members!! Am i right? Like ive been staring at those numbers for months being confused on what they are for 🤣🤣🤣
And btw i really appreciate how much time and effort you put into this analysis and im sure a lot of nctzens will too ♥️
Yes! I initially started doing that just to keep things organized for after the video, thinking no one would care much, but once I started getting comments about it, I realized it worked as a teaser of sorts.
@@KPOPDanceDeepDives yeah it’s a really cute teaser 🤣
I hope the negative comments wont discourage you to make future videos like this. Unfortunately some fans just cant accept criticisms about their faves who have been put on a pedestal by the fandom since their debut.
Hope to see more videos like this and maybe some updates on nct in the future if some members improve!! ♥️
Donghyuck tier 4 sounds like a dream 🤩🤩
congrats on finishing this video sis!!! 🎉
Thank you!
Thank you thank you for all the hard work, time and energy you put into making this brilliantly explained assessment of NCT’s dancing. It’s by far the most coherent, entertaining and informative video I’ve seen. Honest, straight to the point and no gilding the lily.
Wow, thank you so much! This video was nothing if not a labor of love. 😂
Yesss baby Sho’s such a great dancer but he hasn’t got many activities yet and I’m so disappointed about that. Little surprise about Ten and Taeyong’s ranking, I’d have put Ten in the 2nd place and Taeyong in top 5 (with Mark and Jisung)
Wow taeil's explanation is on point👏
please don’t listen to all the mad stans here who look like they only checked the ranking and didn’t listen to your analysis (because the only thing that counts for them is that their bias is better than the rest). your analysis, independently from your rankings, are the best i’ve seen in k-pop discussions (along with itorook), so keep going and don’t be discouraged/hurt by just obsessed people 💙
I did not see what you meant when you claimed Jeno is a groovy dancer, but when I watched his collab stage with Kai, Seulgi and Karina just now, the difference between Kai and Jeno's footwork in the chorus part was staggering. I can now clearly see what you meant when you said Kai is very tense in general in your original open style video and I feel like I'm enlightened lol. I was not sure of your placement of him at 6th but that video kind of did it for me HAHAH. Thanks for sharing your insights!!!
Happy to hear I could provide some insight!
For me too, I definitely would not have classified Jeno as a groovy dancer, but I feel like the more he refined his technique, the more qualities he has which are consistent with groovy dancers. It’s cool to see more of his musicality and texture uncovered over time.
@@KPOPDanceDeepDives I fully agree! I can see him visibly becoming better over time- which is probably why he is being pushed a lot by SM lately. He is like in every collab stage!
oof that's actually my favorite video, I remember being mesmerized by Haechan's style when I first got into nct and that video explained it so fully it made me appreciate his style even more. and yes😭 I always loved ballet as a child, I practiced it on my own bc we couldn't afford classes. Haechan definitely attracts the ballet people!!
I found it extremely interesting when you talked about wayv's teamwork. I'm curious what you think of groups like ateez that don't focus on synchronization, but in my opinion still manage to maintain a good level of teamwork because they all focus on projecting power.
That's a super interesting comparison! I agree with you about Ateez. Even though they aren't synchronized in quality of movement, the fact that they have a shared goal for expressing the songs binds them together.
The problem with WayV is that there seems to be a level of detachment from the project. This leads each member to approach their performance in a totally different way. You have Lucas who is this "Cool Guy", lowkey, more hip-hop leaning dancer, Ten who is more invested in the lyrical and cinematic aspects of the song, and Yangyang and Xiaojun who are just generally performing well, and Winwin and Hendery who are withdrawn in their expressions. More than technique, I think SM needs to have a chat with WayV (and the members need to chat amongst themselves) about what their goal is with the songs and choreography.
@@KPOPDanceDeepDives Thanks for the answer.
@@KPOPDanceDeepDives it looks like despite of the members having different styles and being on different levels of technique, they have a general consensus of what the song's feeling is and are able to perform accordingly, something that wayv ends up lacking and makes the gap between their skills more noticeable.
also, despite everything and lucas being barely considered a member anymore, i have to say i think people overexaggerated how bad he's at dancing. sure, he's no main or lead dancer material and he has some very awkward fancams, but he's a good performer and he manages to not look awkward most of the time despite being so tall and having very long limbs. i'm sure he could've go much further with his skills overall, not only in dancing, if sm bothered to make him any more than the "tall, buff handsome guy with a deep voice" and his scandal didn't happen.
@@KPOPDanceDeepDives As a big fan of WayV, I'm actually a bit pessimistic about their teamwork and cohesiveness on stage. I feel like Winwin and Hendery just aren't very expressive nor versatile performers (of the kpop genre) and a chat cannot fix this issue. I do think Xiaojun/Yangyang/Kun have shown more potentials in this aspect. I can expect more improvement from them.
Lucas and Ten both have very strong personal styles in dancing/performing. They may have less versatility in performing concepts that don't fit their personal styles. More so for Lucas.
EDIT: WayV's stage presence really reminds me of (G)I-DLE which I'm also a big fan of. They also don't have the best teamwork on stage, despite the fact that Soyeon is a very strong leader and is able to give tons of talks about their projects. She even has nearly full control over Gidle's projects. However, Gidle still doesn't have very good teamwork on stage, nearly five years after their debut. It's not because they don't understand their performances, and not because the members don't get along with each other. I believe that it really just comes down to the lack of ability.
Miyeon (and Shuhua in the past) is just not very expressive on stage. Shuhua shows more room for improvement, but still not a very versatile performer. Yuqi has better techniques and versatility, but still can't portray some concepts (like Nxde) as well as others (like Tomboy). Minnie and Soyeon are super stylised performers and are very different from each other, kinda like Ten and Lucas. While I love them as individual performers, they are a bit less versatile as team players. If I look at them performing while muting the sound, I wouldn't know which song they're performing. Minnie is almost always staring into your soul with mysterious eyes, while Soyeon is always...just being the queen that she is.
So basically, if Gidle cannot sort out their teamwork and cohesiveness issues, with Soyeon as a leader and producer, I really have very little hope for WayV who have much less creative control over their music and choreography. I have much more hope and confidence in their future individual projects.
you should def watch itorook! 's dancer analysis of yangyang and his impeccable breathing technique. it was very informative to watch and gave me a new outlook on yangyang's dancing, he is the 2nd best dancer in wayv and hardly ever gets acknowledged for it
I have seen it!
As always, your commentary always comes through💗I 100% agree with when it comes to the way Jisung performs. Even though personally my favourite performers in the group are Taeyong and Mark,he’s easily number three in my list and I personally feel that nctzens that don’t mention Jisung as much as they should when it comes to the best performers in NCT. Or maybe they do and I just rarely see it idk🤷♀️but thank you for talking about how great of a performer he is☺️
kddd! I'd love to see a video ranking some soloists! I really wanna see your analysis of Chungha and Boa (specially now that she's getting proper dance practices)
An amazing video like always!! I admire you so much for giving such in-depth analysis. Could you make a video on Ateez too?
Thank you! I find Ateez to be an interesting dance group, so I'll probably talk about them at some point.
I'm curious to what group or content you will upload next. I'm excited for it. I hope it's who are the best female and male kpop idols (all generations or for each generations) in each techniques like in footwork, coordination etc.
I really am glad to see haechan up there amongst and even higher than the main dancers! It's nice to see him recognized more and more and more for dance.
if you’ve ever seen changmin from tbz or jungwon from enhypen i would really like to know what you think of them they’re my fav dancers alongside mark !!
Ooh, i've been waiting for this one
Edit: After seeing it, I can only be amazed by the quality of your arguments and the editing of the video (which must have been a pain in the *ss)
I was only surprised by Taeyong's place as I saw how praised he was (I'm not a fan nor a stan of NCT)
I think editing alone took me over 2 months.
@@KPOPDanceDeepDives it must have been really exhausting but you're so good at it,
I LOVE YOOOUUUU this must have been sooo tiring to make thank you so much baby
After watching Ten Birthday dance practice, I don't think anyone can convince me Ten is not the number one best dancer in Nct but it's just my opinion though
And i agree with you, this ranking doesn't make sense.
Agree!