How to: Manually Pick Up a Bore or a Hole with an Indicator - Haas Automation Tip of the Day

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  • @David-hm9ic
    @David-hm9ic 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Your videos ROCK. I have no expectation of ever running CNC machines because virtually everything I do is a one-off. The benefit is that the basic challenges between manual and CNC machining are identical. Every successful project starts with a good reference point and that is, IMO, one of the Haas Automation video strengths.

  • @madswinebbq
    @madswinebbq 7 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    I actually appreciate that you gave no warning to the crash because in real life Machining when you crash there is no warning!!

    • @rdhingrausic
      @rdhingrausic 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ruben Alvarez ghhh

    • @Ztalin
      @Ztalin 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@highstreetkillers4377 if you're not crashing you're not working Hard enough.

    • @TheWireEDM
      @TheWireEDM 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      There is one warning. It's the voice that in your head says "naaah, not gonna check, it's probably fine"

    • @manicmotox4214
      @manicmotox4214 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Ztalin or maybe......you work hard enough, and your just a safety Susan 😄........I'm sure that's a thing, I'm sure of it! Lol

    • @Ztalin
      @Ztalin 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@manicmotox4214 whats the fun in that?!

  • @arabiccola
    @arabiccola 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Happy New Year! and to that indicator that was crushed in the making of this video, it was well worth it!

  • @TheSMPeto32
    @TheSMPeto32 6 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    TIP (for newbies): Initially centering the point of the indicator can be relatively complicated if the holding arm is at all offset and/or the indicator is twisted. It's rarely as quick as the video makes it seem, hence the reason he says, "Now, if this takes a little bit of time..."
    In my experience it's not worth the time and can be a total pain! Instead and before using your indicator, put something round into your chuck (preferably with a point) to locate the hole by eye. Personally I use a 3/8" drill blank, with a 45 degree point ground onto the end, but anything will work (chamfer tool, dowel pin, etc.).. Will get you VERY close before indicating, trust me!

    • @KARLOS121
      @KARLOS121 ปีที่แล้ว

      I would use a spiral pointed tap in my drill chuck, works great. Nicer point than a drill

    • @TheSMPeto32
      @TheSMPeto32 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@KARLOS121 a drill blank is just a rod with no flutes, etc...

    • @indubitably424
      @indubitably424 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm about a month in as machinist ( all manual). I have been relying heavily on using an edge finder to locate because I can never get my indicator tip to line up on center and then rotate around a small diameter like a 3/8 pin. This sounds like what I need to try. Thank you.

  • @BartZudell
    @BartZudell 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I don't have a Haas but this was EXACTLY what I was looking for. No hype just good info. THANKS!

  • @Moncriefs
    @Moncriefs 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    i dont know shit about machining but i sat and watched this entire video for some reason

  • @rickys845
    @rickys845 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This dudes a legend so greatful for every upload makes things so simple

  • @johnvine5731
    @johnvine5731 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    My heart actually jumped when the indicator got destroyed!

  • @thiagocruzy
    @thiagocruzy 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Just learnt a years worth of information in 7 minutes. Love love love this channel

    • @BigSimpin420
      @BigSimpin420 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thiago Cruz a year? What? Where did u learn to machine? I learned all this my first week.

  • @davidbutler9014
    @davidbutler9014 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just got my first coax indicator and it is the best indicator of any type that I have ever used.

  • @harwentrejo7727
    @harwentrejo7727 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good explanations. Good job.

  • @spkrman15
    @spkrman15 8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Loved the cracked mirror. Great video guys. It is because of these videos i bought a Haas.

    • @haasautomation
      @haasautomation  8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's great to hear Rob. We hope these videos are helping machinists and shop owners around the world with the problems they run into every day. And when they help prospective owners decide that a Haas might be their best machine tool choice, that's a great result as well.

  • @mikhailmalamud9867
    @mikhailmalamud9867 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is a great video. This method can also be used for testing probe accuracy by comparing center located with dial indicator and center located with probe.

  • @ThePointlessBox_
    @ThePointlessBox_ 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    that indicator crash tore out a piece of my soul
    holy shit

  • @erikcline2826
    @erikcline2826 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome Video! I don't know why I even went through an apprenticeship when I could have just watched these videos. One thing to note though is that, with a lot of indicators, changing the travel direction causes a difference in readings. Play I guess. This really only counts in super close tolerance work, but it's still good to know.

    • @haasautomation
      @haasautomation  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Erik - Thanks for the comment. If you have any suggestions for new TOD videos, send them our way, TOD@haascnc.com. - Mark, Haas Tip-of-the-day

  • @craigburton665
    @craigburton665 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thank you Mark, and Haas Automatons for the very helpful tip of the day videos. I watch every chance I get.

  • @sain9851
    @sain9851 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I seen it thrice, I felt that in my heart when you crashed it. Finally a good caution and note! Thanks to Mark from Haas

  • @jackflash6377
    @jackflash6377 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The more of these tips I watch, the happier I am with my purchase of my HAAS mill & lathe.

  • @raymendez2127
    @raymendez2127 8 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    That crash made me jump! Goodness, that really hurts!

    • @haasautomation
      @haasautomation  8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Sorry to give you a scare Ray! The tool used in the video was an already-broken indicator from Mark's private stash, which allowed us to illustrate the point without damaging a working indicator.

    • @andreJT9
      @andreJT9 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Haha me too jump :D

  • @90fordb2
    @90fordb2 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is a very informative video for someone that is new to the trade, it's pretty much everything I would tell a new person in the milling dept, except I don't smash indicators on purpose. It is good to show what happens though for someone who has never experienced that happening. It's not pretty.

  • @dragonflyfab8982
    @dragonflyfab8982 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mark, you are brutal! Not even a moment of silence for the dead indicator!

  • @tonypeng7829
    @tonypeng7829 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That looks great, I really like it.

  • @cwhuffman01
    @cwhuffman01 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    These tips are handy for me, as both of our Haas mills at school do not have Probes. Thanks!

    • @haasautomation
      @haasautomation  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      You're welcome Christopher! Thanks for the comment!

  • @arunpools
    @arunpools ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My heart skipped a beat when the indicator crashed!

  • @tj9382
    @tj9382 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I love these tip of the day vids, keep up the good work guys 👍

  • @MikeTimokhin
    @MikeTimokhin 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is the best explanation so far on youtube. I've watched many. You guys rock!

  • @Deezputts1
    @Deezputts1 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks, great refresher to look at from time to time.. and yes the indicator crash had me in stitches too

  • @machinist7230
    @machinist7230 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I've found that if .001 is good enough for location, a Blake Co-Ax is the fastest way to find the hole. If you need better accuracy, then switching to a tenth reading indicator will do nicely.

    • @Wat-Dat
      @Wat-Dat 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      This man speaks the truth. My coaxial indicator is the most useful tool in my box. And only $80 on ebay for a cheap one.

  • @charrontheboatman
    @charrontheboatman 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    HI all and Happy New Year! These CNC Videos are of great help to me even though I am not yet proficient enough of a machinist to be working in CNC Thanks for keeping up with the simple stuff!

  • @kentvandervelden
    @kentvandervelden 8 ปีที่แล้ว +143

    Argh, how about a warning of graphical content next time? 2:38 :)

    • @haasautomation
      @haasautomation  8 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      We like the idea Kent, thanks! Sorry to give you a scare. Rest easy, the tool used in the video was an already-broken indicator from Mark's private stash, which allowed us to illustrate the point without damaging a working indicator.

    • @BrianMDPhD
      @BrianMDPhD 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Kent VanderVelden Right!? What horror!

    • @lankysapien3032
      @lankysapien3032 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Or a trigger warning or something. I'm having nightmares tonight!

    • @madswinebbq
      @madswinebbq 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Kent VanderVelden
      In real life there is no warning when you crash! Just shame and everyone gathering around saying "what happened?". 🤣🤣🤣

    • @thiagocruzy
      @thiagocruzy 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      cringe worthy yikes!

  • @chrischalabi
    @chrischalabi 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video! Can you do one on the basics of a probe and how to use it?
    Thanks,
    -Chris

  • @chadkrause6574
    @chadkrause6574 8 ปีที่แล้ว +197

    That crash almost made a grown man cry

    • @Iceberg86300
      @Iceberg86300 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Chad Krause seriously! Oddly I was just poking around long island indicator today and saw that my compac is now up to just shy of $300. I would have been bawling if that was in the machine!!!!

    • @haasautomation
      @haasautomation  8 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Sorry to cause you grief Chad! The tool used in the video was an already-broken indicator from Mark's private stash, which allowed us to illustrate the point without damaging a working indicator.

    • @muellermaxwell
      @muellermaxwell 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      i yelled in agony! haha

    • @hansmeyer7520
      @hansmeyer7520 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nice Video !

    • @4DIYers
      @4DIYers 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Lol, glad I wasn't the only one feeling that. My heart just dropped when I saw that!

  • @yianni3251
    @yianni3251 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you so much for these videos Haas! Love Mark!

  • @kylek9188
    @kylek9188 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    How to you call it a specific location on the Haas control? (ex. x2.5 on a mori you would go to g54 workoffset type in location x2.5 and hit measure) ?

  • @luckyphelps8711
    @luckyphelps8711 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another tip. Before ya got your hundred and fifty dollar indicator in the spindle, run "S100M3" to prevent an accidental spindle start from flinging your indicator across the room. Don't sit there and think it can't happen. True story. I worked at a shop in Fremont CA. We had a good year. Ownership bought us all mititoyo indicators. My boss, one if the owners, accidentally started the spindle which was set pretty fast and shot my two month old indicator across the shop. I was new so I just quietly said damn. He bought a new one, but the lesson is, if the spindle doesn't go fast, it can't fling your tool.

  • @stjohnsriverrat7161
    @stjohnsriverrat7161 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent video, Simple and straight forward.

  • @wground3130
    @wground3130 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I broke Renishaw thus, as shown in the 07:42 minute. DDD
    well, that only the probe and not the entire measuring holder.
    Pretty good advice, especially for beginners

  • @proventure307
    @proventure307 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mr. Mark you are better than my chef in the factory.. i better learn from you.

  • @Metaldetectiontubeworldwide
    @Metaldetectiontubeworldwide 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Archief that ondicator breacking , it literaly Hurted me , an the small sidenote in the corner of screen , pure genius ! ..lol
    Gtrs from the Netherlands Johny geerts
    Grts from the netherlands

  • @timmallard5360
    @timmallard5360 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I pooped myself too but the saw the black dial face and knew it was a cheapo-depo. Really like the tip to eyeball the center line at the beginning. The indicator never lies and will save you sanity of the probe is on the fritz.

    • @ydna
      @ydna 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      look again, that was a Brown and Sharpe Besttest!

    • @timmallard5360
      @timmallard5360 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Andrew Ydna DuBuc Ill be dammed your right! I guess Hass needed to create an accurate simulation i guess. Then again a Chinese knock off isn't even even aloud in the parking lot at Hass

    • @yalgret
      @yalgret 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@highstreetkillers4377 what's best in your opinion, Mazak?

  • @user-tc2ky6fg2o
    @user-tc2ky6fg2o 7 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    It really did hurt at the crash. First in stomach then the pain went up to my heart. My brain did not work.

  • @denismorend3884
    @denismorend3884 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello, put in G54 annd G55 two differentzeros to make the same piece in different reference points, I did it a while ago in Dewoo 4020 vertical machining center, and I used a Pycock tracer, I see that you use the Z+ for anything the encoder is in a mayor advance , the concentration is paramount and avoid being distracted by third parties, excellent quality of work, naw in another company Iam in charge of center HAAS VF6/50., very good machine, congratulation. Best regards Denis Morend.

  • @nasaeagle
    @nasaeagle ปีที่แล้ว

    That indicator crashing was a jumpscare. Laying down in bed watching this and jumped 😂.

  • @danield4871
    @danield4871 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I remember when I had problems with this, never thought I’d ever get it. Now it takes me seconds. Lol 😂

    • @markterryberry4477
      @markterryberry4477 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That is so very true. Same thing with making a vise straight.

  • @snoozebutton
    @snoozebutton 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just did this at my work today and i felt really bad ass

  • @jimszabo1239
    @jimszabo1239 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    On the long stem Mitutoyo 513 series indicator. Get the swivel stem attachment for it. It is the best investment

  • @matejkuka797
    @matejkuka797 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love your videos guys because with your videos my job is more fun :)

  • @SpencerWebb
    @SpencerWebb 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think you guys should do several Haas TOTD segments at and with NYC CNC (John Saunders), entitled "Tips for brand new Haas owners". I think it would really work well, and pull in many prospects for new machines.
    You're welcome. :-)
    -S
    (...a happy TL-1 owner)

  • @aadavthermocraft936
    @aadavthermocraft936 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have a small doubt here, what if the needle changes it values along the circumference, but the reading at all the quadrants is zero ? Does that means the bore is a bit oval? Please clarify this. I have been watching your videos regularly and it has helped me a lot in my shop.

    • @haasautomation
      @haasautomation  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Aadav - Yes. It is possible the hole is not perfectly round. In that case we just center things the best we can. When holes must be perfectly round, we usually go with a boring bar, with a single insert. - Mark, Haas Tip-of-the-day

  • @lifeinsurance4495
    @lifeinsurance4495 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love haas machines especially the vf1 and the tl1

  • @AshersVids
    @AshersVids 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like to put a pin in a tool holder or just line up a tool that is close to the diameter of the hole to speed up the eyeballing. I get much closer to center before I even start indicating.

  • @llem346
    @llem346 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Очень наглядная и доступная подача информации. Замечательное видео.

  • @jasonbourne4865
    @jasonbourne4865 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Everything is so clean and tidy in these videos and the machines are spotless! Myself, I got coolant grease everywhere and am constantly picking metal slivers out of my palm... xD

  • @fattyinger
    @fattyinger 8 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Almost crap myself when you broke that indicator :))))))

    • @haasautomation
      @haasautomation  8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Sorry to give you a scare! The tool used in the video was an already-broken indicator from Mark's private stash, which allowed us to illustrate the point without damaging a working indicator.

    • @fattyinger
      @fattyinger 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just you know how you react when you broke a tool... I literally felt like that :)))

  • @Zaku186
    @Zaku186 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    That crash hurt me. and it took me a while to get over it. even had to rewind to just after it to hear what you said.

  • @mechmotion
    @mechmotion 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic video. One tip on the Co-Axis indicator. They sometimes will not read on center due to run out in the holder, so it's a good idea to double check them against a typical indicator.
    I've got a few non working indicators if you need them for future videos. :-p

  • @thotaphanindra1432
    @thotaphanindra1432 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    great videos sir....please make videos on cutting speeds and feeds, programming

  • @lecappel3916
    @lecappel3916 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ola Mark.
    Excelente vídeo, mostrou alternativas que eu não conhecia sobre centragem.
    Um dos maiores motivos de problemas em usinagem.
    abraço
    Le

  • @fabiostaffoni4435
    @fabiostaffoni4435 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very Very interesting. Good indications for a good work

  • @martinhough1664
    @martinhough1664 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What products or methods do you use to keep your table and covers so clean? I have a newish machine that is quickly building up stains on the table top.

    • @haasautomation
      @haasautomation  7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Martin - Staining is usually just a visual problem (doesn’t affect table), but I will go ahead and scrub the table with a Maroon Scotch Brite pad, treated lightly with a Castrol Rustilo rust-preventative, or even WD-40, if we need the table pretty for a video. - Mark, Haas Tip-of-the-day

    • @luckyphelps8711
      @luckyphelps8711 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      A teach your people that cleanliness is next to Godliness. When you have a five year old table without any "oh sh t" tracks, it becomes personal to keep it that way. Be safe, have fun

  • @deepfryguy2013
    @deepfryguy2013 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I actually gasped at 2:40. Gave me a heart attack.

  • @MegaJohnhammond
    @MegaJohnhammond 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I like the tip about always moving plus first. This is what I've always done. It's impossible to teach people the importance of doing this, of course every idiot with 2 years experience think they're a master machinist. Then, sooner or later they'll crash a probe or an indicator. Then the light goes on.

    • @luckyphelps8711
      @luckyphelps8711 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Z plus 6 or 12 inches depending on z travel is the very first move on any tool when I program. An x or y movement with your junk hanging down is embarrassing and often costly. Also, MDI S100 M3 before you mount an indicator to your spindle. Your indicator and your wallet will thank you

  • @MaquinerosCNC
    @MaquinerosCNC 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    you are awesome! thanks for all the videos

  • @petittoto7433
    @petittoto7433 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You can use an horizontal indicator, using the small dove tail on the side of the dial and bend the touch at 80°...

  • @thevacuumtubejunky9774
    @thevacuumtubejunky9774 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great demonstration. I learned a lot quite quickly. Thank you very much.
    Kind regards, Eric Dee

  • @clemenceronald
    @clemenceronald 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    OMD! That indicator crash made me jump off my chair!! Nice video as usual minus the crash of course =))

  • @j.thirumalaimech7430
    @j.thirumalaimech7430 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That is the great video some help ful
    And how to set down dial centre orgin

  • @haroldcook2146
    @haroldcook2146 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent tip. Thanks very much!

  • @volkankandemir5108
    @volkankandemir5108 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for sharing.

  • @trebushett2079
    @trebushett2079 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I know Hass machines are vertical, but I wouldn't like to use any of the DTI setups used here with a horizontal spindle machine!

  • @paolo4285
    @paolo4285 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi, thank you for another explanation important things for machinist. I have a question: what is the brand of horizontal indicator with black dial? I'm trying to find out one which has center of the shank lined up with center of the tip. It is hard to find one. Most of the Mitutoyo has tip off center na could be destroyed while rotating inside the hole or when touching the edge of material. I will be appreciated.

    • @markterryberry4477
      @markterryberry4477 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This is a TESA Brown and Sharpe BesTest indicator. I've really liked mine for this configuration.

    • @paolo4285
      @paolo4285 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@markterryberry4477 thank you very much!

  • @dylanshackelford7425
    @dylanshackelford7425 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Literally at lunch watching this because I am struggling doing it for first time. I have no idea why this difficult. It looks super straight forward but for some reason it is really hard to get it down.

    • @Wat-Dat
      @Wat-Dat 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The method shown in this video is by far the most frustrating and difficult way to pick up a hole.
      I suggest you use a basic edge finder, split your X, then do the same thing on Y. This will get you centered within a half a thou. Then use this method to fine tune it.
      Or buy yourself a cheap coaxial indicator, it will be the most useful tool you ever buy and save you half of your setup time. I got one on ebay for $80 and it gets me within a quarter thou of center. If you need more precision, then you can indicate it like the video shows afterwards.

    • @luckyphelps8711
      @luckyphelps8711 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I personally, and I have been doing this for four decades, get my indi down to a sixteenth or so above the hole and get the ball close to even on all four edges before I drop into the hole. With in a sixty fourth or twenty thou. Then it's spin it and do the math. It may help to think of it as "short of the zero, or past the zero" to help make the adjustments. I also always MDI S100 M3 so that if I accidentally start the spindle, my indicator doesn't fly across the room

  • @scotts7017
    @scotts7017 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Since you most likely machined those jaws there is no need to drill a hole all the way through your part. Also if you ever machine a set of jaws that you plan to re-use you should put a reference hole at a predetermined location on the stationary jaw for finding the reference point at a later date. Maybe you do this and were using this through hole for demonstrative purposes only. You save time on op 1 by not having to drill as deep, as you still have to indicate the hole on op 2 anyways. A properly made and seated jaw into a clean and chip free vise can bring many subsequent uses without having to machine contoured jaws every time you run the part. Just my 2 cents. Thank you for another great video!

  • @dhanreejsingh6499
    @dhanreejsingh6499 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very knowledgeable videos. Great work

  • @climber6477
    @climber6477 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    2:38 almost gave me a heart attack when I saw that indicator get destroyed.

  • @Nerwik
    @Nerwik 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Damn the 2:38 moment made my heart rate skip.. Jesus..

  • @scottlog220
    @scottlog220 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i felt that indicator banging on the top of that part.

  • @phillefever1934
    @phillefever1934 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for subjecting us all to 2:38

  • @garyrembert5756
    @garyrembert5756 ปีที่แล้ว

    2:39 heart stopped for a sec...

  • @BeckTools
    @BeckTools 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dang! I didn't realize you were going to smash that indicator just for video purposes. hahaha No messing around here... :)

  • @TheHalloweenmasks
    @TheHalloweenmasks 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is there a name for the DTI stand that you use in this video? I need one of these.

  • @madeariartha2546
    @madeariartha2546 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Those various indicators are so beautiful, bcoz i only have one for all purposes

  • @vishalsutar2422
    @vishalsutar2422 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very awesome Gaidens

  • @kevinking5406
    @kevinking5406 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I spit my coffee when that indicator cra$hed. Good video. Learned to indicate with a coaxial. Never used a vertical for picking up a hole. (Yes I am ashamed)

  • @Dubconnectgang
    @Dubconnectgang 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    This has been very helpful!

  • @egx161
    @egx161 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. TESA shows that the Interapid stylus must be at 12° to the work surface for a true reading w/o cosine error. Does this apply to sweeping a hole? or, as long as you get zero readings, cosine error doesn't apply?

    • @haasautomation
      @haasautomation  7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hi Emilio. I was using a .0005” indicator, meaning that when the needle moves by one line, then I have moved by .0005” - but this is only true if the indicator tip is at a very particular angle (12° like you said, but different for each make of indicator). For us, when sweeping a hole, we don’t have to worry about this Cosine Error. As long as we read “0” from all directions, we know we are on center. Great question. - Mark, Haas Tip-of-the-day

    • @egx161
      @egx161 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's what I thought. Thank you. Since it's a comparative measurement, like you wrote; as long as you get zero in each axis. Makes sense.

  • @andreJT9
    @andreJT9 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    2:38 haha it hurts, thanks again and keep up the good work.

  • @cliffordernest7825
    @cliffordernest7825 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mark is straight savage. Just killing an indicator to make a point.

  • @massimonobili8253
    @massimonobili8253 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bel video..vi chiedevo avete un video per centrare le punte da forare al tornio?

  • @marley589
    @marley589 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    How do you ensure that the indicator is truly vertical using a round spigot mount?

  • @elilco
    @elilco 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Here's a question for you!! how do you zero drills end mills on lathe with live tool holders? now that's going to be a fun tip of the day.

    • @haasautomation
      @haasautomation  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the comment! Check out our Live-Tool Setup video at th-cam.com/video/Yo1J5XWy78Y/w-d-xo.html. Most of your live-tool questions should be answered in this one video. For more specifics, reach out to the Applications experts at your local Haas Factory Outlet and they can fill in the blanks. -Mark, Haas Tip of the Day

  • @frankg521
    @frankg521 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you have a link for these indicators you used here

  • @armandoivanzamorabravo3190
    @armandoivanzamorabravo3190 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The crash make my heart pump faster😂

  • @captainchippie4454
    @captainchippie4454 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    That crash at 2:39 made me jump. I looked away for a few seconds just before it happened and all of a sudden I heard it and was like... O.O

  • @jimsgym4468
    @jimsgym4468 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    One thing I like to do is pick up the hole first with an edge finder which gets me within .001-.002 then I double check with the indicator.

    • @tamekajackson8222
      @tamekajackson8222 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Can you tell me how you do this?

    • @jimsgym4468
      @jimsgym4468 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tamekajackson8222 use a standard or conical edge finder if it's a small hole. Do only one axis first. Start roughly in the center of the hole and pick up one edge. Note your machine position and pick up the opposite edge. Split the difference between the numbers and move the edge finder to the center. Now repeat that process for the other axis. If it's a true circle you should end up very close to center.

  • @jarisipilainen3875
    @jarisipilainen3875 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    4:27 if you setup your needle largest angle you can get it fit inside hole you get cosini error and your needle move more than real measure is SO it will come more acurate lol. you measure difference

  • @RajKumar-qi4qi
    @RajKumar-qi4qi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm was really scared in the indicator broken .

  • @sunilgouda5130
    @sunilgouda5130 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sir plz one video making to hole center in dial indicater in milling

  • @Gabrielde2ori
    @Gabrielde2ori 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    DAAAAMN, my soul broke along with that indicator tool, that's an operator's nightmare

  • @shilimkarnv1
    @shilimkarnv1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Broken indicator,
    Very hard to see this.
    I have seen this part of video 3-4 times in slow motion