Also the cross-section examples blew me away. Incredible effort! This style of teaching should be a staple in any shop class or engineering curriculum.
I know how painstaking it is to make a video like this. And the 3D graphics are awesome. One of the best tutorials over the net I must say. Please keep up the good work. I'll recommend your channel to my group of hobbyists too.
Didn't think he was going to mention Japan. Not gonna lie feels good to be recognized. Taper tap here is called "先タップ" (Saki-tap) meaning pointed tap. Also numerically referred to as"1番タップ" Plug tap is called "中タップ" (Naka-tap) meaning middle tap. Also called "2番タップ" Bottoming here is called "上げタップ" (Age-tap) meaning raised tap. Also called "3番タップ" Straight tap is called "ハンドタップ" (handotappu) which just means hand tap. Spiral point tap is called "ポイントタップ" (pointotappu) which just means point tap Spiral flute tap is called "スパイラルタップ" (supairarutappu) which just means spiral tap. Thanks for the great content!
@@DogDog173 Thank you, but there are people who can do much better jobs than me. Vtubers are good resources if you are looking for authentic Japanese. Kiryu Coco sometimes speaks both English and Japanese, so you could start from there. th-cam.com/channels/S9uQI-jC3DE0L4IpXyvr6w.htmlvideos
@@DogDog173 I actually do have a channel, but it's for programming and tech. Here is the link if you are interested. th-cam.com/channels/CIq1eBCBmaBqOpIfVWE32w.html
I hope Haas knows that these videos actually sell Haas machines. I know more than a few people that have decided to buy a Haas because of these great videos. Great video and presentation Mark!
Sophat Ngim - Thanks for the kind post. There is a whole team of us here making videos, and it makes our day when we are able to help our customers with just the right topic, script, graphics, edit. Thanks again. - Mark, Haas Tip-of-the-day
As a former cutting tool company rep, I consider this to be one of the best tutorials on the subject of tap performance and selection that I have ever seen. The examples and illustrations make understanding some of the issues with tap selection and threading holes much more understandable. While there have been countless books written on the subject this 13-minute video is a perfect primer for those interested in making the right tap choice for the job. The basic rule of thumb as the instructor mentions is use a tap that pushes the chips down and out of a through hole or one that pulls the chips up and out of a blind hole. If you are stuck using a tap that pushes the chips forward and down into a blind hole you can "peck feed" the tap in multiple steps into and out of the hole along with using either compressed air or high coolant flow to flush the accumulated chips up and out of the hole until you achieve full thread depth.
in germany we call them gewinde schneider but the streight one is usualy used here in germany and all 3 types of them getting used for each hole getting thedded
I learned drilling and tapping in the '80's. My Son is a welder and he not only didn't know about tapered-straight-bottoming taps, and their uses. He was shocked that I did. I recently bought 2 new double sets in SAE and METRIC tapered-straight. He wanted to borrow a tap for one of his side jobs. It ended up being a half hour lesson in the different types of taps, oil and water based cutting fluids and their cleanup. Sometimes I feel that he believes that I'm making things up. Will be forwarding this video to him. It's nice to know that something I learned over 35 years ago is still relevant.
I stopped the vid less than half way through to write this: my supervisor at work suggested this channel yesterday and I subscribed today. I've been machining for over 11 years now and I've learned something new from each video that I've watched today. This is excellent presentation and a great mixture of explaining terms without just expecting the audience to know all the jargon. I'm already glad I subbed!
Excellent video! I've been a machinist for 43 years and I learned something from this. You presented the information in a way that made it easy for anyone to understand. Keep up the great work and I will definitely be watching more of your videos!
Thank you. I've been a professional mechanic for 14 years now, and tapped hundreds of holes, all by hand. The info in this video will make these tasks easier in the future and probably also enable me to produce higher quality repairs.
I have never used a tap before in my life, but after watching this awesome little video, I feel like I have a qualified certification in taps! This guy is a teaching jedi! VERY well done!
Gotta tell ya - i was really arrogant starting to whatch this video..."Who doesn't know about spiral flute taps?"....But you did it in such a detailed excellent manner I even learned some stuff. GREAT GREAT job guys.
Those informations are all out in the internet, but no one can present it as easy and compact as you do. Information and entertainment on another level, Mark is the best!!!
I can only begin to imagine the amount of preparation that went into the making of this video, as well as the technique and the craftsmanship to deliver all the physical samples. Only a set of really skilled, really passionate people sharing the same set of values can pull something like this.
I came here to just make sure I had the correct saying for the wording of "tapping, tapped, taps." Instead I enjoyed the video and the information. Even though I may not use this in my life, the information is valuable.
At 62 yrs old, & just getting into the hobby of Lathe & Mill machine work a year ago. I knew the time would come when I would need a Tap & Die set… And that’s about all I knew about a T&D set was it’s name… So this being my VERY 1st Video to have viewed was ABSOLUTELY PERFECT!!! Smooth Instructional & Technical video.. example with the Snowplow was brilliant ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ ZenModeling
Hello from germany! :P I think, this will twist your tongue, but bottoming taps in germany are called Sacklochgewindebohrer :D Sackloch = blind hole, Gewindebohrer = tap
Matt B The word Gewindebohrer consists of the two words Gewinde and Bohrer. Gewinde is the word for thread (In a way calling threads “winds”) and the word Bohrer is used for drills and boring tools. So you’re right on!
@@ChristophPech As a British person, and with the English language partly derived from Anglo-Frisian settlers in the 5th -7th century. The long technical German words are incredible. I now write technical operator manuals for Friction Welding machines, and they are translated in many languages, as per customer language. I have to allow 40% more text when being translating to German, 30% for Swedish, 20% for French and Spanish, and MINUS 80% for Chinese. Ich hoffe, du hast ein schönes Osterfest (google translation) sorry.
This video is incredibly well made. Very clearly explained and excellent use of both physical and graphic demonstrations. I learned so much and really appreciate the thought and care that went into making this video.
Same here , I work in a cnc shop and my boss is not a very good teacher so these videos are amazing for me. I've been there 2 and a half years now and didn't know much about taps. Learned a lot of different things from these videos
I'm watching this and after you've grabbed the truck, I'm like "wait no way, how didn't I think about that". Now that concept will never leave my head - it's a lot easier to understand, than to memorize. Awesome. P.S. In Russia these taps are called simply "roughing, semi-finishing, finishing", and are marked with 1,2, and 3 rings on the shaft, for those who didn't watch this video, so they wouldn't mess it up.
Right off the bat I’m no machinist but that said the industry really fascinates me so thus how I’ve stumbled upon this video, I’m young and basically my mechanical knowledge is based around what I’ve had to fix myself to keep myself moving forward and I do have a craftsman tap set and man it’s saved me several times from having to buy a new part but never did I ever think this much about tapping or ending with a quality tap, just did it and went on my way but I’ll tell you this video not only really interesting but extremely useful on how I will think about tapping from now on. Also this is a extremely well produced video, between the graphics in the animations and the Pronunciation I really enjoyed this video.!!!
I have been a lathe guy until I switched shops now milling and my boss likes me to use your videos to boost my level of abilities. Thank you for making it easy to learn about things that were not taught in my training!
In Hungary hand thread cutters are the following: 1. Elővágó (~precutter) - marked with one ring on the shaft 2. Utánvágó (~aftercutter) - marked with two rings on the shaft 3. Készrevágó (~finish cutter, finisher) - no rings on the saft But in here these are not the same as in US, because the nr. 1 and 2 are not have the full thread profile. They cut out first ~55%, then ~25% and for finishing the last 20% of the material. In machine thread cutters we have: Straight flute: Egyenes élű (same as in english) Spiral flute: Csavart élű (~twisted flute) Siral point: Terelőhornyos egyenes élű (~deflector grooved straight flute)
@@littleworkshopofhorrors2395 I've only ever had one set of serial taps, 10x1.25, about 35 yrs old now. Imperial taps are marked the same though, got a few odd size Whitworth with 'rings'
Thanks for a thorough crash course on one of the most dreaded operations in precision machining. Love your Haas tip of the day every chance I get to watch and learn!
Thanks Mark for the taps lesson! I'm a medium skilled diy guy, have tapped (and ruined) many holes, never REALLY knew what I was doing. I now work almost one-handed after a stroke in 2011. This makes everything harder but I keep trying. Back around 2013 I attempted to helicoil some head bolt holes on a corroded 185 Johnson outboard. I used the usual t handle tap wrench, and could not for the life of me manage to align it, ruining 3 holes. For the remainder I used a ratchet wrench and was able to hold it in position with the good hand and turn with the impaired hand. But the ruined holes don't leave enough material to go oversize, so the professionally rebuilt short block is now trash, several thousand $$$$ down the drain. Obviously, helicoil taps are bottoming, don't align. NOW you tell me!!! Well, my inexperience got me. Wish I'd seen your tips sooner! Or at least tried the ratchet approach first. Great videos, even for a guy who will never touch an NC machine.
I vote this the best thing I’ve learned this year. I bought a tap & die set and had NO idea about what you just taught me. I just thought there were plugs, tapered and bottoming. I never considered which way the chips will fall, just like at the casino, This noob thanks you so very very much for teaching me and explaining it with a cool snow plow. My inner child was so happy to learn more more more.
Oh come on, I sat the whole video waiting for some Terryberry gold, "thank you for watching this, Haas tap of the day" Didn't happen. Gutted. Only kidding, fantastic content, and the CGI has really stepped up, great job guys
Thanks for the comprehensive guide. This video saved me from doing a mistake as I have no experience in tapping. I needed to tap a corroded thread on blind hole. I was going to use straight plug tap while I was supposed to use spiral flute bottom tap. I didn't know the difference when purchasing the tap. Thanks again.
What a Brilliant well planned & presented video! I'm not a machinist but I learn where I can. I found the presenter to be not only very knowledgeable but very easy to follow without him being a "know it all" on such a basic subject which is the way many come across. The prepared examples are high class & again, very well explained! I hope you have done other videos of this caliber that I can learn from. Thanks!!
One of my less than capable corporal aircraft engine mechanics broke off a tap in a burner nozzle flange, broke a HSS drill in the hole trying to drill it out, broke a cobalt drill trying to drill that out, then came and told me. There was a wheat grain size lump left in the hole. He asked if I can remove it. My first question was why did you not call me when the screw was tight. Then the next 60 questions flowed like, where did the swarf go? What condition do you think the threads are in now, and yes i can fix it, by doing an engine change.
I fix everything.... if it was made it can be remade better... either tube drill a larger hole tap that insert a larger bolt that you can drill and tap ... or grind out ... or just replace all the metal with welding.... then drill and tap or one of the many other ways to skin that cat... maybe you should hire me lol What's the hourly ... my favorite thing is fixing what fuck ups fuck up... just depends on what is allowed by standards ....
@@jolllyroger1 Now, the only problem is, he's talking aircraft repair. One cannot just take any bolt and throw in there, or go one size up to fit the new treads cut. It doesn't work that way. Every part has a number and precise specifications and one is not allowed to tamper with these things.
Dang!! Mark explained everything I ever needed to know about taps. I don't need to watch anymore videos.....EVER..!! Excellent visual aids and editing. Using real metal models is a lot of work but makes it so clear and easy to understand. Good job, sir..!!
Wow! I was expecting to need to go through like 2 -3 videos for the information I needed, but this covered all my questions and then added things that I wouldn't have even considered. Thank you!
I absolutely loved your video ! You must have spent an awfully long time preparing it ! At about time 8:10 it shows a build up of chips . After 4 decades of working in aircraft/aerospace I remember that problem too well ! Too many self a claimed technicians were using wrong taps or should have drilled all the way thru but didn't ; or at least drilled deeper to accommodate chip clearance . This brings back old memories of parts being returned by customers wherein chips absolutely jammed internal threaded holes. We ended up drilling all the returned parts thru , with specially made/purchased extra long drill bits with slightly smaller than the min I.D. of the internal thread . FINAL NOTE : Again , I loved your video ! In my opinion a lot of guys should be getting more education just like your video ! Have good one ! John H. Toronto , Ontario in Canada .
man, from my heart, thank you, im a semi trained professional & have always wanted to know this. I worked at Norva plastics in Norfolk & no one there could ever explain the difference to me even though we had 2 haas mills & 1 haas lathe
I find it amazing, how after reading all the comments that no matter who you are or where you are from there is an air of solidarity and kinship, with mutual respect among all of the people doing work like what's shown in these videos. I see the same basic principles in comments in most trades including, but not limited to, welding, carpentry, gunsmithing, electricians and blacksmiths. All traditionally blue collar trades. Humph, interesting. It shows we all have more in common than we have that separates us. It doesn't matter if you are Chinese, Mexican, Russian, Canadian, Cuban, German, Scottish or American. One needs to watch any of the varried " competition " reality T.V shows to see sore losers and bruised egos. But if you have ever watched Forged in Fire, you will see the difference. Those eliminated, or the looser, always exhibit fair play, own up to their mistakes and failure explaining why the decision was correct and how they will learn from it and strive to improve from the experience. All the while congratulating the winners. It's a wonderful display of recognition of talent and skill and fellowship for those who bettered them. It's a beautiful display of respect and pride amongst likeminded peers. And the way all people should look at others, not with envy and anger, but with respect, pride and camaraderie. You can learn a lot from others, no one can be expected to know it all and be the best all the time. You get out of a skill or trade what you put into it. And I personally find working with my brain and my hands to be the most fulfilling thing in my life. And I love to share what 50+ years of smithing has taught me.
@Haas Automation, Inc. at 4:35 you labeled the taps in the opposite order, the video shows from left to right, a bottoming tap then a plug tap and then a taper tap. awesome video! it's very informative!
I watched the video 3 times before posting, and still missed that!!! Thanks for posting. Next time I’ll play it on a bigger screen, or maybe I’ll get some new glasses :) - Mark, Haas Tip-of-the-day
Lucas - Nice catch! You really know your taps. I watched this video 3 times before we posted it, and I didn’t catch that. Maybe if the schools use this in classes, they can play “Where’s Waldo”, and ask the students to find the blooper. Thanks for commenting. - Mark, Haas Tip-of-the-day
@@ddegn From 4:39 to 4:43 the text is incorrect. "Taper" and "Bottoming" are reversed. The Bottoming tap is actually at top left, the Taper tap is at bottom right. - Haas Automation
I'm trying to learn more about machining and tooling used for machining. The Haas Videos are always made so well that a guy like me can learn easily when I know nothing about the subject.
I have tapped a bunch of holes, some by hand, some w a drill press and a spiral flute tap. I try to learn what I can, but I was never formally trained. That said: this video was amazingly clear and helpful. The illustrations, close-ups, and descriptions along with the flow of the video was very well thought out and executed. I found it painfully easy to understand and follow. Very well done. Thank y'all for the time and effort to make this video.
This is a tip-top tap video. I learned about taps from the tip to the top, and the top to the tip. And with a bit of swarf thrown in as a bonus, perfectly done.
I love to watch American instructional vids! I am a business / managerial trainer, consultant. Good chunk of learning here! Awesome instructor, perfectly organized instruction, super visuals! Thank you!
What an awesome introductory class! It was exactly what I needed! Well, more than I needed, as I’m merely cutting threads for bolts in a cast iron table saw top by hand. But, that was an excellent, easy to follow, yet informative instruction guide! Thank you!
Great video! These educational videos are great for beginner's. You are doing everyone a massive favor! And the graphics and the physical aids are brilliant. It's also good because people can trust the information, coming from a reputable manufacturer.The coolant video for example completely took the mystery out of coolant for me. Coolant was always something I wanted to know more about, but a lot of the time it's difficult to find good information on the internet, as a lot of it is opinion based, especially on forums. Thanks!
Yep. Starting my second (third? fourth?) career as a manual machinist. This stuff is great, even if my eyes glaze over when he starts talking about programming.
i use bike specific taps from Park Tool. I had no idea there were other types. I thought a tap was a one way tool but now I know so much more ( and how much I still need to learn ) ! Thank you for an excellent posting!
You know taps, my man ! In our shop, we worked a lot of titanium. Our machinists always had a coffee cup full of talcum powder next to their tapping operation. Taps have a nasty tendency to quickly gall, then snap. The talcum smoothed the operation, and fewer broken taps.
Hello. I’m Jeffrey working in Japan. Thanks for the tips. I was troubling tapping some hard material with spiral tap. But always broken. And have to tap with point tap by hand. It took so much time and effort. Did not know the reason and how to solve. Next time, I will try it with other taps on machine. Thanks for sharing. :)
Very informative and well paced/edited video!! I recently started working at a cutting tool master distributor warehouse and had very limited knowledge about taps (as far as how the angle impacted the clippings/shavings and how those clippings/shavings impact the overall hole and threading. Thank you for being very thorough!!
If you don't want chips to build up in a blind hole, fill it with candle wax before you tap it. The wax is forced back through the flutes and brings all the chips with it.
A bit late but, here in Brazil, tappers are often called 1,2 and 3 for the taper, plug and bottoming I am a car mechanic and its how i learned at least, and we learn to work the way with all three when ever its possible But, since ive never worked in machine, always done by hand, never broke one but NOW I KNOW, cutting angle explanation was great and it all make sense now Shout out from São Paulo
Fascinating! I'm a guitar player but I've got no gigs due to Covid Restrictions so I'm attempting to do some DIY. This guy's *got it*. Top marks, fella! Thank you.
Thanks for a great video. Definitely learned a thing or two from that. Here in Sweden, taper tap = förtapp, plug tap = bottentapp, spiral tap = spiraltapp. The general term for "tap" is gängtapp, where gäng means thread.
In Germany you're working with DIN norms, e.g. machine taps DIN 371, 376 or 374 (metric fine). And straight flutes are just "Form B" (geradegenutet), spiral flutes "Form C" (spiralgenutet). Taper, plug, bottoming ist just counting threads of "Anschnitt". Flutes for throughholes better are with "Schälanschnitt" meaning, the flute itself is tapered better transporting chips. And don't forget left and right handed threads. A straight flute taper tap is for manual use in most cases, bigger sizes even are of a set-of-3 taps used one after another reducing the manual cutting force.
Also the cross-section examples blew me away. Incredible effort! This style of teaching should be a staple in any shop class or engineering curriculum.
This was a super informative video. Well done!
Awesome to see you here!
Well what do you know. Video about tapping coming up? ;)
Ayeee Destin!
inb4 Smarter every day about cnc machines
Seems like a video is in the making for you Dustin😀
This is what I call explanation. Very clear explained, could not be better.
Totally agree with you ☝🏼☝🏼☝🏼.
Best explanation ever.
Great information. Thank you
Excellent video for a hobbyist.
This is the type of stuff that should be taught in high schools. Easy, informative and useful.
I have learned more about taps in this video than in forty years of hand taping stuff.
And this video and Marks great diction is top notch, Thanks
cause 40 years ago you probably didn't have a Haas cnc.
@@edmundooliver7584 dude, this comment is 2 years old.
@@edmundooliver7584 neither 40 years ago or 40 years from now. Nobody has cnc at home. Straight hand taps are all you need for home anyway
I know how painstaking it is to make a video like this. And the 3D graphics are awesome. One of the best tutorials over the net I must say. Please keep up the good work. I'll recommend your channel to my group of hobbyists too.
Didn't think he was going to mention Japan. Not gonna lie feels good to be recognized.
Taper tap here is called "先タップ" (Saki-tap) meaning pointed tap. Also numerically referred to as"1番タップ"
Plug tap is called "中タップ" (Naka-tap) meaning middle tap. Also called "2番タップ"
Bottoming here is called "上げタップ" (Age-tap) meaning raised tap. Also called "3番タップ"
Straight tap is called "ハンドタップ" (handotappu) which just means hand tap.
Spiral point tap is called "ポイントタップ" (pointotappu) which just means point tap
Spiral flute tap is called "スパイラルタップ" (supairarutappu) which just means spiral tap.
Thanks for the great content!
dude you should consider giving japanese lessons. open a channel!
@@DogDog173 Thank you, but there are people who can do much better jobs than me. Vtubers are good resources if you are looking for authentic Japanese. Kiryu Coco sometimes speaks both English and Japanese, so you could start from there. th-cam.com/channels/S9uQI-jC3DE0L4IpXyvr6w.htmlvideos
@@DogDog173 I actually do have a channel, but it's for programming and tech. Here is the link if you are interested. th-cam.com/channels/CIq1eBCBmaBqOpIfVWE32w.html
That was very interesting. Thank you. FWIW, OSG from Japan is the largest tap manufacturer in the world. I use some of their taps.
I hope Haas knows that these videos actually sell Haas machines. I know more than a few people that have decided to buy a Haas because of these great videos. Great video and presentation Mark!
Sophat Ngim
So true,
The other guys better pay attention.
Sophat Ngim AvE is one of them ;)
They doing a great job on following there customers
Sophat Ngim - Thanks for the kind post. There is a whole team of us here making videos, and it makes our day when we are able to help our customers with just the right topic, script, graphics, edit. Thanks again. - Mark, Haas Tip-of-the-day
totally agree.
As a former cutting tool company rep, I consider this to be one of the best tutorials on the subject of tap performance and selection that I have ever seen. The examples and illustrations make understanding some of the issues with tap selection and threading holes much more understandable. While there have been countless books written on the subject this 13-minute video is a perfect primer for those interested in making the right tap choice for the job. The basic rule of thumb as the instructor mentions is use a tap that pushes the chips down and out of a through hole or one that pulls the chips up and out of a blind hole. If you are stuck using a tap that pushes the chips forward and down into a blind hole you can "peck feed" the tap in multiple steps into and out of the hole along with using either compressed air or high coolant flow to flush the accumulated chips up and out of the hole until you achieve full thread depth.
Wow - that was the gold-standard of instructional videos! Nice pace, concise explanations, clear examples and demonstrations!
Well I definitely just learned a lot about taps. All very useful info, thanks.
well you might know why you are here but i dont know why i am... back to ave or maybe that manx guy
@@frogz try checking the guy above out he has many good videos on electronics as well.
Now all u gotta do is just tap tap dat a$$ ! I mean, hole ! lol xD
in germany we call them gewinde schneider but the streight one is usualy used here in germany and all 3 types of them getting used for each hole getting thedded
I learned drilling and tapping in the '80's. My Son is a welder and he not only didn't know about tapered-straight-bottoming taps, and their uses. He was shocked that I did.
I recently bought 2 new double sets in SAE and METRIC tapered-straight.
He wanted to borrow a tap for one of his side jobs. It ended up being a half hour lesson in the different types of taps, oil and water based cutting fluids and their cleanup.
Sometimes I feel that he believes that I'm making things up.
Will be forwarding this video to him.
It's nice to know that something I learned over 35 years ago is still relevant.
I'm in the UK, and I would call them Taper, Second, and Plug. Thanks for these great video's.
I stopped the vid less than half way through to write this: my supervisor at work suggested this channel yesterday and I subscribed today. I've been machining for over 11 years now and I've learned something new from each video that I've watched today. This is excellent presentation and a great mixture of explaining terms without just expecting the audience to know all the jargon. I'm already glad I subbed!
Excellent video! I've been a machinist for 43 years and I learned something from this. You presented the information in a way that made it easy for anyone to understand. Keep up the great work and I will definitely be watching more of your videos!
Thank you.
I've been a professional mechanic for 14 years now, and tapped hundreds of holes, all by hand. The info in this video will make these tasks easier in the future and probably also enable me to produce higher quality repairs.
This is the way every teacher of any subject should have been explained the subject
I have never used a tap before in my life, but after watching this awesome little video, I feel like I have a qualified certification in taps! This guy is a teaching jedi! VERY well done!
Gotta tell ya - i was really arrogant starting to whatch this video..."Who doesn't know about spiral flute taps?"....But you did it in such a detailed excellent manner I even learned some stuff. GREAT GREAT job guys.
Those informations are all out in the internet, but no one can present it as easy and compact as you do. Information and entertainment on another level, Mark is the best!!!
Possibly the best explanation ever in the history of anything.
I can only begin to imagine the amount of preparation that went into the making of this video, as well as the technique and the craftsmanship to deliver all the physical samples. Only a set of really skilled, really passionate people sharing the same set of values can pull something like this.
Learning has occurred this day. Exceptionally informative video
- presented in high production quality at that.
I came here to just make sure I had the correct saying for the wording of "tapping, tapped, taps." Instead I enjoyed the video and the information. Even though I may not use this in my life, the information is valuable.
I'm Not a machinist, just a curious person who as manual tapping once, and wow! it's a realy great video, clear, simple... So nice !
I've been tapping holes for 48 years. Was taught and learned from some good people but even I picked up on a couple of things here. Thanks Haas.
They probably Haas been tapping holes for a long time too! LOL
As a Machining Student using Haas machines, I greatly appreciate all of these "Haas Tips of the Day". Thank you!
I'm a student too in Spain
Neil - Thanks for the feedback! If you have any suggestions for future videos, send them through to TOD@haascnc.com. - Mark, Haas Tip-of-the-day
@@haasautomation Thank you. I will keep email in mind for anything that might pop up!
I am amazed on how incredible informative this video was. This is what makes TH-cam worth watching. Thank you.
5 YEARS MACHINING EXPERIENCE AND IM JUST NOW LEARNING ABOUT THIS! HOLY SHIT YOU LEARN SOMETHING NEW EVERYDAY LOVE THIS INDUSTRY!
At 62 yrs old, & just getting into the hobby of Lathe & Mill machine work a year ago. I knew the time would come when I would need a Tap & Die set… And that’s about all I knew about a T&D set was it’s name… So this being my VERY 1st Video to have viewed was ABSOLUTELY PERFECT!!! Smooth Instructional & Technical video.. example with the Snowplow was brilliant ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
ZenModeling
This is easily the best video I have ever seen on the subject.
Hello from germany! :P I think, this will twist your tongue, but bottoming taps in germany are called Sacklochgewindebohrer :D Sackloch = blind hole, Gewindebohrer = tap
I speak zero German, but the word for tap looks a helluva lot like "windy (winding) borer" which actually makes sense
At my work place here in Australia we use Hahnreiter taps. You Germans know how to make a great tap! They are awesome!
It gets crazier, for example, ball screw nut is Kugelgewindeumlaufspindelmutter.
Matt B The word Gewindebohrer consists of the two words Gewinde and Bohrer. Gewinde is the word for thread (In a way calling threads “winds”) and the word Bohrer is used for drills and boring tools. So you’re right on!
@@ChristophPech As a British person, and with the English language partly derived from Anglo-Frisian settlers in the 5th -7th century. The long technical German words are incredible. I now write technical operator manuals for Friction Welding machines, and they are translated in many languages, as per customer language. I have to allow 40% more text when being translating to German, 30% for Swedish, 20% for French and Spanish, and MINUS 80% for Chinese.
Ich hoffe, du hast ein schönes Osterfest (google translation) sorry.
A really practical explanation with enough clarifying images but without making you feel stupid by overusing them. I think it's a nice balance
I think everyone in my mechanical engineering course should watch this video. Too many dont have any practical knowledge
This sort of video is so good it makes me want to become a machinist.
This video is incredibly well made. Very clearly explained and excellent use of both physical and graphic demonstrations. I learned so much and really appreciate the thought and care that went into making this video.
I've learned more from this channel than I have in my entire machining apprenticeship
Same here , I work in a cnc shop and my boss is not a very good teacher so these videos are amazing for me. I've been there 2 and a half years now and didn't know much about taps. Learned a lot of different things from these videos
I'm watching this and after you've grabbed the truck, I'm like "wait no way, how didn't I think about that". Now that concept will never leave my head - it's a lot easier to understand, than to memorize. Awesome.
P.S. In Russia these taps are called simply "roughing, semi-finishing, finishing", and are marked with 1,2, and 3 rings on the shaft, for those who didn't watch this video, so they wouldn't mess it up.
That 3 tap system is not the same. You have to use all three taps to get a full thread. It's prehistoric stuff:-)))
Chip movement, beautifully explained with snow plough example. Brilliant!
Right off the bat I’m no machinist but that said the industry really fascinates me so thus how I’ve stumbled upon this video, I’m young and basically my mechanical knowledge is based around what I’ve had to fix myself to keep myself moving forward and I do have a craftsman tap set and man it’s saved me several times from having to buy a new part but never did I ever think this much about tapping or ending with a quality tap, just did it and went on my way but I’ll tell you this video not only really interesting but extremely useful on how I will think about tapping from now on. Also this is a extremely well produced video, between the graphics in the animations and the Pronunciation I really enjoyed this video.!!!
Awful video , my boss fired me on the spot when he saw me playing with a snow plow and artificial snow all over his shop. Thanks alot Haas
Cocain is a hell of a drug...
Your former boss is a wise man....
"But sir, I was only trying to work out which tap to use..."
You neglected to say you were actually fired for spending hours trying to build a snowman from the fake snow.
@@jadesluv He had no choice, it's the law of snow. You have to either have a snowball fight or make a snowman.
I have been a lathe guy until I switched shops now milling and my boss likes me to use your videos to boost my level of abilities. Thank you for making it easy to learn about things that were not taught in my training!
Check out joe pie for machining videos. Probably one of the best instructors in my opinion.
In Hungary hand thread cutters are the following:
1. Elővágó (~precutter) - marked with one ring on the shaft
2. Utánvágó (~aftercutter) - marked with two rings on the shaft
3. Készrevágó (~finish cutter, finisher) - no rings on the saft
But in here these are not the same as in US, because the nr. 1 and 2 are not have the full thread profile. They cut out first ~55%, then ~25% and for finishing the last 20% of the material.
In machine thread cutters we have:
Straight flute: Egyenes élű (same as in english)
Spiral flute: Csavart élű (~twisted flute)
Siral point: Terelőhornyos egyenes élű (~deflector grooved straight flute)
tnor90 in England that style of tap are called serial taps, as you use them in series one after the other.
Egy karika, két karika, nincs karika, mennyit hallottam ezt tanároktól évekkel ezelőtt.
I love these comments. I’m learning a lot from them. Thanks for posting! - Mark, Haas Tip-of-the-day
Bojler eladó!
@@littleworkshopofhorrors2395 I've only ever had one set of serial taps, 10x1.25, about 35 yrs old now. Imperial taps are marked the same though, got a few odd size Whitworth with 'rings'
Wow, I am 65 and spent 8 years working around a machine shop.....I learned so much from this....thank you very much......
Man you made one of the best TH-cam videos ive seen. Perfect!
Thanks for a thorough crash course on one of the most dreaded operations in precision machining. Love your Haas tip of the day every chance I get to watch and learn!
Thanks Mark for the taps lesson! I'm a medium skilled diy guy, have tapped (and ruined) many holes, never REALLY knew what I was doing.
I now work almost one-handed after a stroke in 2011. This makes everything harder but I keep trying. Back around 2013 I attempted to helicoil some head bolt holes on a corroded 185 Johnson outboard. I used the usual t handle tap wrench, and could not for the life of me manage to align it, ruining 3 holes. For the remainder I used a ratchet wrench and was able to hold it in position with the good hand and turn with the impaired hand. But the ruined holes don't leave enough material to go oversize, so the professionally rebuilt short block is now trash, several thousand $$$$ down the drain.
Obviously, helicoil taps are bottoming, don't align. NOW you tell me!!! Well, my inexperience got me. Wish I'd seen your tips sooner! Or at least tried the ratchet approach first.
Great videos, even for a guy who will never touch an NC machine.
These videos really make me think that Haas care about their customers. Refreshing, so many manufacturers aren't interested when they have your money.
Boris Johnson PM I agree.
Jean Haas is a great guy He built a custom go cart track for his workers.I remember using Haas 5c index head in machine shops 25 years ago.
I've been working in a cnc shop for going on 3 years. No one has given me an explanation I can understand till now. Thank you
I vote this the best thing I’ve learned this year. I bought a tap & die set and had NO idea about what you just taught me. I just thought there were plugs, tapered and bottoming. I never considered which way the chips will fall, just like at the casino, This noob thanks you so very very much for teaching me and explaining it with a cool snow plow. My inner child was so happy to learn more more more.
So how long did you play with the snowplow after shooting the video?
Great video 👍🏻
until Christmas X:D
also....specify duration on Table....Floor ......after the video !!! Lol !
He might or might’ve had to shorten the video by a couple of hours?!
Jorgen - Haven’t stopped! My wife took the fake snow with her to her class of school kids. They loved it. Fun stuff. - Mark, Haas Tip-of-the-day
@@haasautomation From the clarity of your lesson, I figured you had a teacher somewhere in your orbit.
Very handy video, thanks!
I'm in the UK. Hobby mechanic and I usually call most styles of tap "dirty f*ing broken piece of s*t b*stard".
Taps are called that all over the world, just the accent or language changes😂
AKA Tourette's taps....
It’s amazing, I’m in the USA and use those terms.
Hey, what a coincidence, same exact term in Australia.
Oh come on, I sat the whole video waiting for some Terryberry gold, "thank you for watching this, Haas tap of the day"
Didn't happen. Gutted.
Only kidding, fantastic content, and the CGI has really stepped up, great job guys
Me too!
Andrew - I see what you did there. - Mark, Haas Tap-of-the-day
Maybe after making the video he was too tapped out.
Great puns guys! 😁
This video reminds me of the clarity of those old Bill Nye The Science Guy videos i grew up watching. Amazing work.
Thanks for the comprehensive guide. This video saved me from doing a mistake as I have no experience in tapping. I needed to tap a corroded thread on blind hole. I was going to use straight plug tap while I was supposed to use spiral flute bottom tap. I didn't know the difference when purchasing the tap.
Thanks again.
What a Brilliant well planned & presented video! I'm not a machinist but I learn where I can. I found the presenter to be not only very knowledgeable but very easy to follow without him being a "know it all" on such a basic subject which is the way many come across. The prepared examples are high class & again, very well explained! I hope you have done other videos of this caliber that I can learn from. Thanks!!
This is f****** brilliant! The time, effort and thought put into this is amazing.
One of my less than capable corporal aircraft engine mechanics broke off a tap in a burner nozzle flange, broke a HSS drill in the hole trying to drill it out, broke a cobalt drill trying to drill that out, then came and told me. There was a wheat grain size lump left in the hole. He asked if I can remove it. My first question was why did you not call me when the screw was tight. Then the next 60 questions flowed like, where did the swarf go? What condition do you think the threads are in now, and yes i can fix it, by doing an engine change.
Heli-coil. Many aircraft parts have heli-coil in first place.
best to shatter it, and out it will come ,then re tap it.
Spark erosion is the safest way to get a broken tap out in an expensive part.
I fix everything.... if it was made it can be remade better... either tube drill a larger hole tap that insert a larger bolt that you can drill and tap ... or grind out ... or just replace all the metal with welding.... then drill and tap or one of the many other ways to skin that cat... maybe you should hire me lol
What's the hourly ... my favorite thing is fixing what fuck ups fuck up... just depends on what is allowed by standards ....
@@jolllyroger1 Now, the only problem is, he's talking aircraft repair. One cannot just take any bolt and throw in there, or go one size up to fit the new treads cut. It doesn't work that way. Every part has a number and precise specifications and one is not allowed to tamper with these things.
Dang!! Mark explained everything I ever needed to know about taps. I don't need to watch anymore videos.....EVER..!! Excellent visual aids and editing. Using real metal models is a lot of work but makes it so clear and easy to understand. Good job, sir..!!
Gosh, i've learn more in 10 minutes with this video than 10 years working in welding shops
Wow! I was expecting to need to go through like 2 -3 videos for the information I needed, but this covered all my questions and then added things that I wouldn't have even considered. Thank you!
Great vid. Thanks, very informative.
In Australia Taper = starter, plug = intermediate, bottoming is bottoming.
I absolutely loved your video ! You must have spent an awfully long time preparing it ! At about time 8:10 it shows a build up of chips . After 4 decades of working in aircraft/aerospace I remember that problem too well ! Too many self a claimed technicians were using wrong taps or should have drilled all the way thru but didn't ; or at least drilled deeper to accommodate chip clearance . This brings back old memories of parts being returned by customers wherein chips absolutely jammed internal threaded holes. We ended up drilling all the returned parts thru , with specially made/purchased extra long drill bits with slightly smaller than the min I.D. of the internal thread . FINAL NOTE : Again , I loved your video ! In my opinion a lot of guys should be getting more education just like your video ! Have good one ! John H. Toronto , Ontario in Canada .
man, from my heart, thank you, im a semi trained professional & have always wanted to know this. I worked at Norva plastics in Norfolk & no one there could ever explain the difference to me even though we had 2 haas mills & 1 haas lathe
Awesome video!!! I knew nothing about taps before, now I feel confident enough to buy the correct type of tap if I ever need one!!
One Word: Perfect! Perfect explanations with a perfect actor. Thank you very much :)
I find it amazing, how after reading all the comments that no matter who you are or where you are from there is an air of solidarity and kinship, with mutual respect among all of the people doing work like what's shown in these videos. I see the same basic principles in comments in most trades including, but not limited to, welding, carpentry, gunsmithing, electricians and blacksmiths. All traditionally blue collar trades. Humph, interesting. It shows we all have more in common than we have that separates us. It doesn't matter if you are Chinese, Mexican, Russian, Canadian, Cuban, German, Scottish or American. One needs to watch any of the varried " competition " reality T.V shows to see sore losers and bruised egos. But if you have ever watched Forged in Fire, you will see the difference. Those eliminated, or the looser, always exhibit fair play, own up to their mistakes and failure explaining why the decision was correct and how they will learn from it and strive to improve from the experience. All the while congratulating the winners. It's a wonderful display of recognition of talent and skill and fellowship for those who bettered them. It's a beautiful display of respect and pride amongst likeminded peers. And the way all people should look at others, not with envy and anger, but with respect, pride and camaraderie. You can learn a lot from others, no one can be expected to know it all and be the best all the time. You get out of a skill or trade what you put into it. And I personally find working with my brain and my hands to be the most fulfilling thing in my life. And I love to share what 50+ years of smithing has taught me.
@Haas Automation, Inc. at 4:35 you labeled the taps in the opposite order, the video shows from left to right, a bottoming tap then a plug tap and then a taper tap. awesome video! it's very informative!
Lucas Cole he sure did
I watched the video 3 times before posting, and still missed that!!! Thanks for posting. Next time I’ll play it on a bigger screen, or maybe I’ll get some new glasses :) - Mark, Haas Tip-of-the-day
Lucas - Nice catch! You really know your taps. I watched this video 3 times before we posted it, and I didn’t catch that. Maybe if the schools use this in classes, they can play “Where’s Waldo”, and ask the students to find the blooper. Thanks for commenting. - Mark, Haas Tip-of-the-day
The graphic immediately after is correct, right?
@@ddegn From 4:39 to 4:43 the text is incorrect. "Taper" and "Bottoming" are reversed. The Bottoming tap is actually at top left, the Taper tap is at bottom right. - Haas Automation
I'm trying to learn more about machining and tooling used for machining. The Haas Videos are always made so well that a guy like me can learn easily when I know nothing about the subject.
I have tapped a bunch of holes, some by hand, some w a drill press and a spiral flute tap. I try to learn what I can, but I was never formally trained. That said: this video was amazingly clear and helpful. The illustrations, close-ups, and descriptions along with the flow of the video was very well thought out and executed. I found it painfully easy to understand and follow. Very well done. Thank y'all for the time and effort to make this video.
This is a tip-top tap video. I learned about taps from the tip to the top, and the top to the tip. And with a bit of swarf thrown in as a bonus, perfectly done.
What a great visual explanation. Thanks to everyone at HAAS! These vids are such a great resource for young people like me.
I have to say you've taught me as much or more than my technical school. Thank you for the knowledge man.
In the old days, manufacturers produced the best continued education. Most of the old timers picked up their secrets from manufacturers ce.
I love to watch American instructional vids! I am a business / managerial trainer, consultant. Good chunk of learning here! Awesome instructor, perfectly organized instruction, super visuals! Thank you!
INCORRECT... title Corrected: " Every tradesman needs to watch this". An EXCELLENT presentation. If only I had seen this video 38 years ago!
How the frack did I end up here
Watched the whole vid
Fascinating
me too. i'm a welder xD
Me too I’m a musician.
me too. I'm a Cashier. Weird TH-cam, go home you drunk. Still interesting, thogh.
Me too, I'm a CNC programmer... easy to get sucked in Lol
I think watching AVE videos got me here
What an awesome introductory class! It was exactly what I needed! Well, more than I needed, as I’m merely cutting threads for bolts in a cast iron table saw top by hand. But, that was an excellent, easy to follow, yet informative instruction guide! Thank you!
quality videos like this give me the strength to keep living.
country boy we got a jokester here, eh! 😄
Guy killed it.
Well done mate
as a newbie cutting tools sales, this video is very informative
Can't get enough of these tutorials. Keep them up.
Great video! These educational videos are great for beginner's. You are doing everyone a massive favor! And the graphics and the physical aids are brilliant. It's also good because people can trust the information, coming from a reputable manufacturer.The coolant video for example completely took the mystery out of coolant for me. Coolant was always something I wanted to know more about, but a lot of the time it's difficult to find good information on the internet, as a lot of it is opinion based, especially on forums. Thanks!
Yep. Starting my second (third? fourth?) career as a manual machinist. This stuff is great, even if my eyes glaze over when he starts talking about programming.
i use bike specific taps from Park Tool. I had no idea there were other types. I thought a tap was a one way tool but now I know so much more ( and how much I still need to learn ) ! Thank you for an excellent posting!
geez, the quality of these videos is amazing. Not just the vision, but the content and level of explanation. great work!!
I'm not a machinist and I've never tapped before, and now I know enough about taps that I can if I need to on a project in the future! Awesome video!
Crazy how much effort is going to these videos! Thank you. Keep it up !
You know taps, my man ! In our shop, we worked a lot of titanium. Our machinists always had a coffee cup full of talcum powder next to their tapping operation. Taps have a nasty tendency to quickly gall, then snap. The talcum smoothed the operation, and fewer broken taps.
Hello. I’m Jeffrey working in Japan. Thanks for the tips. I was troubling tapping some hard material with spiral tap. But always broken. And have to tap with point tap by hand. It took so much time and effort. Did not know the reason and how to solve. Next time, I will try it with other taps on machine. Thanks for sharing. :)
What was this 'hard' material?
This is what a real class should look like.
Awesome content.
FINALLY, A video showing the proper functioning of a tap.! THANK YOU !
This video took many skilled people to make.
And the permission of a jealous wife.
Thanks everybody!
Only a simp gets permission from his wife to do anything.
Hey Brian your channel is excellent as well!
@@angelus_solus happy wife, happy life. a relationship should be give and take homie
@@ArmyBoiSweat If you're wife gets mad for not asking permission then that's not a happy life at all
Very informative and well paced/edited video!!
I recently started working at a cutting tool master distributor warehouse and had very limited knowledge about taps (as far as how the angle impacted the clippings/shavings and how those clippings/shavings impact the overall hole and threading.
Thank you for being very thorough!!
If you don't want chips to build up in a blind hole, fill it with candle wax before you tap it. The wax is forced back through the flutes and brings all the chips with it.
This is brilliant Ima try this
or just use the right tap...
ALSO WITH WAX STUCK FEMALE SQUAR PIPE PLUGS (YEA) HEAT A LITTLE THEN APPLY WAX AND LET COOL PLUG WILL EXTRACT AND NOT BREAK OUT THE CORNERS OR SHATTER
SOMTHING I LEARNED FROM AN OLD DETROIT MECHANIC ABOUT REMOVAL OF BLOCK PLUGS
A bit late but, here in Brazil, tappers are often called 1,2 and 3 for the taper, plug and bottoming
I am a car mechanic and its how i learned at least, and we learn to work the way with all three when ever its possible
But, since ive never worked in machine, always done by hand, never broke one
but NOW I KNOW, cutting angle explanation was great and it all make sense now
Shout out from São Paulo
Fascinating! I'm a guitar player but I've got no gigs due to Covid Restrictions so I'm attempting to do some DIY. This guy's *got it*. Top marks, fella! Thank you.
Thanks for a great video. Definitely learned a thing or two from that. Here in Sweden, taper tap = förtapp, plug tap = bottentapp, spiral tap = spiraltapp. The general term for "tap" is gängtapp, where gäng means thread.
Spinaltap?
Greatl video. Textbook example of how to explain something very clearly to anyone. Well done!
A very helpful video for hobbyists. I love the snow plow! 😊🌎✨
In Germany you're working with DIN norms, e.g. machine taps DIN 371, 376 or 374 (metric fine). And straight flutes are just "Form B" (geradegenutet), spiral flutes "Form C" (spiralgenutet). Taper, plug, bottoming ist just counting threads of "Anschnitt". Flutes for throughholes better are with "Schälanschnitt" meaning, the flute itself is tapered better transporting chips. And don't forget left and right handed threads. A straight flute taper tap is for manual use in most cases, bigger sizes even are of a set-of-3 taps used one after another reducing the manual cutting force.
Great video Mark, this is gold dust to us self taught engineers