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Are you watching the theatrical edition or extended? Also, I don't know if anyone mentioned this, but you can actually take a tour of the Shire in New Zealand. 1 other fact, was that when the Uruk-Hai threw the knife at Aragorn, the actor unknowingly threw the real knife and Viggo blocked it.
Don't know if it's already been said, but as it's never explained in the movies, only Tolkien's written works, the five wizards (we only see Gandalf and Saruman in the first trilogy) are spirits/angels called maiar created by the god Iluvatar, sent down to middle earth with a human-looking body approximating old men. They are however NOT old men in the sense that they only LOOK like old men and actually are very strong, durable and agile. They were initially sent to middle earth with the mission to rally the good mortal races against Sauron in order to remove/destroy Sauron. They were explicitly told not to directly try to take on the mission of destroying Sauron themselves, only act as guides to the mortals and encourage and direct them onto the right path.
Bilbo was the richest hobbit in the Shire which is why his party was so elaborate. His family had always been well to do, but a dragon hoard can significantly boost one's fortunes. 😉
Indeed. But just for the sake of beeing picky, Bilbo was the richest but no one knew it, most of his fortune was secret. The honor of beeing officially the richest among the hobbits fall into Merry's family, the Brandybucks iirc.
Also, even for a hobbit, 111 was extremely rare. It would be similar to a respected elder in a small, very close-knit town turning 100; it's gonna be a community event.
The Nazgul not entering the rivers is often confusing for those who haven't read the books. The first time, at the ferry, the black rider stopped because the Brandywine river was too deep and swift for a horse. When they are pursuing Arwen (carrying Frodo), they hesitate because the river is the border of Imladris (Rivendell) and they know very powerful beings exist there.
Good points, thanks! There's also a symbolic level to it; in many cultures, water, especially flowing, deep, clear water, is sorta regarded as holy (makes sense evolutionarily, because finding running clear water was vital to human survival, both via quenching thirst and by not making you crap yourself to death after doing so, because running water is less likely to house high levels of pathogens. Theory is that it's why we like shiny, sparkly things; they look like sunlight reflecting off fast-moving water). Vampires and similar "evil" creatures, for example, often have trouble crossing barriers of water. It also makes sense that Tolkien, who was deliberately intending to make LOTR a folklore for modern Britain the way Arthurian legend was folklore for the medieval nation, would draw on established folklore themes. The Black Riders are servants of Sauron, and are therefore evil, and so don't like water on that level, too, in addition to the already-noted narrative reasons. One of the reasons Arwen confronts the Riders there is that Rivendell is Elvish, and the land protects Elves as Elves protect the land. When she asks the river for help, it answers.
They dislike water also because Water is the domain of a powerful Valar spirit called Ulmo, who hates both Sauron and his Master, Morgoth, an Evil Valar, banished into the void at the end of the First Age. (The Third Age is almost over in the film. Gandalf is not a man, he is a Maiar Spirit (Like a lesser Angel) sent to aid the people of Middle Earth resist Sauron, another Maiar turned to evil, but Gandalf is enjoined from directly leading these peoples.
Also in the books, the hobbits actually leave the shore on the ferry several minutes before the Black Rider arrives-they are several hundred yards away from the shore by the time the Rider reaches the shore, so rather than try to chase them through a river with a swift cross current, the Black Rider elected to go the long way round by land. The nail-biting, skin-of-their-teeth escape was invented to create drama, because the book is paced far too leisurely to make an exciting movie without adaptation.
Fun fact: Actor Sean Bean has a severe fear of flying and that was quite a problem during the filming of Lord of the Rings. Scenes were regularly shot in isolated places. The actors and crew were brought by helicopter, but our Boromir was not seen. When the time came again, he would start a walking tour to the filming location hours in advance and already wearing his costume.
The Doors of Moria needed a "Forgot Password?" button. Boromir is the first to succumb to the evil of the ring because he's the one under the most stress and threat from Sauron. He's from Gondor, which is directly across the river from Mordor. His land is the first target. All the others live much further away. I'm glad you understood that it was the ring's influence on him, and not simply that he was weak or evil. Many reactors don't get it, and think he was just a jerk and a traitor.
Yeah, these are the first reactors I've seen who have understood that this wasn't Boromir's fault... that the ring was WAY beyond him and screwed with his mind. They also immediately caught on to his redemption and actual real bravery and sincerity in trying to save Merry and Pippin.
The programmers didn’t think anyone would need a “Forgot Password?” button because the password was “password” and the instructions were “type ‘password’ to continue.” As Gandalf pointed out, the inscription should have been translated (by him, in fact) as “SAY ‘Friend’ and enter.”
I think more specifically, Boromir already wanted the ring to begin with. He had specifically gone to Rivendell to take the ring for Gondor to use against Mordor. The ring's influence greatly hinges on the people's desire to have the ring, or whatever the ring promises it can provide in the first place. Frodo was obviously the best choice because he really didn't want the ring and he wanted to get rid of it at the earliest opportunity. But the fact that he had to keep others who DID want it, like Boromir and even Sam, was what allowed it to eventually corrupt him by the end. He had to want it in order to keep it out of the wrong hands.
The wizards (actually Maiar spirits) do not have permission to use their full powers to interfere directly with the affairs of Middle Earth. They are supposed to provide wisdom and guidance. Only in very rare moments are they allowed to use their powers, usually when confronted with equally powerful dark forces (like balrogs and nazgul). This is why Gandalf does not use his wizard powers in fights against orcs n stuff.
Yeah! They are basically guides. They give their wisdom and advice to people, but will never tell someone what to do, or what to choose. That is the reason Gandalf asked Frodo which patch to take. He knew it was very likely that there was a Balrog in Moria. But it wasn't his role to decide which path to take. It would have interfered to much with fate and/or peoples wills. At least that is how I see it. Tolkien didn't really like giving people direct and simple answers to his lore. It removes to much of the mystery. Which I think is a great attitude!
@@ninjabluefyre3815 It's also something caused by the disharmony Morgoth infected the Song of Illuvatar with, and therefore something Gandalf was permitted to use his full power against.
Fun movie fact. Aragorn deflecting the knife at 1:13:01 was a real deflect. The actor throwing the knife accidently threw it right at Aragorn and he instinctively deflected it. He could have seriously been injured or killed if he didn't pull that off.
I love the fact that you caught the fact that there are 9 in the Fellowship and that matches the nine black riders. Elrond chooses 9 for the Fellowship in the books for that very reason.
Oh. My. God. Ya'll are in for an absolute treat. It cannot be overstated how incredible this trilogy is. Not just these movies but Tokien's work in general. It's unbelievable how well written and how deep it goes
Enjoying your reactions! When Galadriel says, "I pass the test. I will diminish, and go into the West, and remain Galadriel," there is an immense amount of back story behind her statement. Suffice it to say that Galadriel was an exile from the Undying Lands, where she had rebelled against the Valar, the Lords of the West. The Silmarillion, Tolkien's "Bible" of Middle-earth, is largely about that rebellion. By refusing the Ring when it came within her grasp, Galadriel atoned for her rebellion and was allowed to return into the West. Read the LOTR book and the Silmarillion for the details. It's a long read, but it's worth it!
@@TheOctobersReact the part about remaining Galadriel is kind of a theme in the author's writing about names and thoughts on how they have power, and changing or concealing names has great meaning behind them. The idea was that if she had taken the ring, she too would become twisted, so twisted that she would not be known as Galadriel, either by taking on another name or by doing things inconsistent with the current being known as "Galadriel" or perhaps other reasons because of the ring. Her resisting the ring and declaring she would remain Galadriel was her refusal to be anything other than who she is. @1:09:18 you keyed in on it. Imagine that it twists you so much out of character, it twists your name away too.
She was not banished. She took a different route before or after Fëanor’s oath. And she had always been keen on travelling to the land of her ancestors. Middle earth. Where they woke to the stars above them at the Cuiviènen
@@themadmallardthe ban was lifted once before but she chose to stay so as to make sure Sauron is eventually defeated. So she has been doubly invitees back to Valinor. She also was slightly pacifist due to how anytime a Ñoldorin elf takes action in a big way the world loses more than it gains and she felt Fëanor’s shadow and or Morgoth’s loomed over her and her actions so she remained eve wise as always.
@@TheOctobersReact she didn’t rebel. Her half uncle did. And it wasn’t so much rebelling. The Ñoldor were the warriors and those who were scholars so they would have the heart to question the Valar and they were allowed to leave to middle earth to pursue the fallen Vala named Morgoth by the elves. Formally Melkor.
The lady Galadriel shows what she would have become if she took the ring, much like why Gandalf wouldn't even touch the ring, the more powerful a person is the more damage the ring would do through corrupting them, Hobbits are simple folk and don't desire much in life so they are tempted less by power, Boromir wanted badly to protect his people, Galadriel would have been a force for nature, and a terrible being to anything that she though despoil it, Gandalf would hunt down anything he so as evil, or bad by the time the ring had done he would probably kill even the smallest of crimes, or even rule everyone thinking he could control everyone as free will means free will to do as you want, so the ring would corrupt good deeds into the opposite of what you started out to do and thats the danger of it, you would never think of destroying something that only helps you do what you see as good, thats the trap
The Ring tempted people with what they wanted most in the world. Elves want knowledge and personal development, dwarves want treasure mined from caves and crafted into beautiful weapons and jewelry, humans want power and fame. Hobbits want…a full plate, a full glass, a full pipe, and a hole full of children. Kind of hard for the Ring to tempt them. The Ring did at one point show Sam a vision of Samwise the Strong, with armor and sword, leading troops to victory…which lasted about ten seconds before he chuckled at the very idea, much preferring to imagine a future where he took first prize in vegetables at the fair.
When that little girl comes over the hills screaming Gandalf, and the music crescendos. Brings a tear to my eye every single time. And the acting from Ian Mckellen when he says "So am I dear boy! ... So am I... " And just kind of gets misty eyed staring out over the countryside. It is all just too gaddamn beautiful and all of these tiny little moments are a huge part of what the movies are to me.
1:08:51 “How did that head get up there.” Nice under-appreciated touch in these movies - the landscape features scattered ruins from long ago, the time of Aragorn’s ancestor Isildur and before. Like if you were walking around rural Italy and came across the ruins of a wall or amphitheater from Ancient Rome. In ancient times that head was probably part of a statue or monument located in a populated area, maybe a city or fortress. But by now it’s ruined, abandoned, and long since depopulated. Part of a theme in LOTR that things were greater and richer and grander in ancient times, but by now things have degraded, and men are scattered and leaderless.
The 20 minutes of credits at the end of "Fellowship" included everybody that had been involved in the fan website that was launched when the movie series was announced. Anyone that took part in online discussions was given the opportunity to have their name listed. I was one of those fans. I won tickets to the Fellowship premiere in Orlando,Fl. I have a 18" replica statue of Gandalf that I won on-line. I have a replica "Sting" sword that looks and is as heavy as a real sword. But when you slide a switch, it glows blue and hums! My wife an I attended a LOTR marathon when the "Return of the King" was released. It included the Extended editions of the first two movies as well. It started @ 9:30 am, included meals & breaks between the movies and movie related giveaways. It ended the next morning at 1:30 am... and 10 years later we did the "Hobbit" movies at the same theater the same way!!!
Were you a TORN member back in the day? Man I miss those days, waiting for set photos. I think my favorite story of all is after the Return of the King Oscars which the film won all 11 it was nominated for, the cast skipped out on all the big Hollywood parties and instead went to the fan website party... and stayed there the entire night partying with the fans.
@@mycroft16 Yes I was. I was lucky enough to introduce my entire family to JRR's works and all these movies! I have a Theater Room with a DLP Projector/120" Screen and a 60" 3D TV and 3D Blue Ray DVD player.
I read the books 30 years before the movies came out, I never imagined anybody could create Middle Earth this well, Peter Jackson did a fantastic job. But Sam is MVP!
Galadriel statement about passing the test and diminishing and going to the west, was about resisting the temptation of the ring, having her powers diminish in middle earth, and taking a boat with her fellow elves to sail to the undying lands in the west.
My older sister tried to read the book to me in 1971 (I was 15) but I wasn’t interested, probably because of the way she read it with over the top enthusiasm and not just as a beautifully written story. At some point as an adult I read the Hobbit which is the first book. I read all the books in order at least once a year for 9 years. My verdict on watching the 11 plus hours of the lord of the rings movies at the movie theater was that it should have been 23 hours long! Way too short!!! 😂😂😂 my favorite character in “the hobbit” was Tom Bombadil and he was left out entirely. Glad you loved it! I will watch all these movies with you!!!😅🎉😂
“That blond haired guy is giving me Hawkeye vibes” The blonde haired guy is Legolas. In The Avengers (2012) during the battle of New York Iron Man gives Hawkeye a lift to the top of a building. Before flying him up Tony tells Clint, “Clinch up, Legolas.”
"That was Will Smith" Holy moly, took me a second but you got me good on this one. Glad to see more people watching this great trilogy. If you enjoy it, I would absolutely recommend watching the extended cuts, which add a lot.
Her comments are so funny! 😂 She said the eye of Sauron was a fiery slit... 🤣😂🤣 and she genuinely thought Gandalf was going to eat the moth! 🤣😂 I had a great time! Looking forward to the next two! 😂😘
I'm impressed how you immediately without knowing caught onto the Aragorn-Arwen story ;D Indeed, her dad didn't allow them to marry until he was king or rather after the ring-quest when that came up.
I always see people saying Elrond could've killed Isildur after Isildur refused to destroy the ring. There are layers of why it wouldn't have worked: - Isildur is a great warrior and also had the ring which is known to gift powers to those that use it for evil (or prevent its destruction) - Isildur is also at that point (after his fathers death on the battlefield) the High King of Gondor and Arnor, his death by Elronds hand would definitely have caused a horrible war between Elves and Men - Even after killing Isildur and taking the ring (SPOILER for third film) it is not possible to destroy the ring willingly at the place of its origin, where it is most powerful. Elrond would've kept it for himself (thus triggering a war between Elves and Men either way)
@@alexmckee4683 I don’t think so. Yes, Elrond is very powerful even without the one ring (though he has Vilya, the most powerful of the three Elven rings iirc). But even Sauron could only influence the Elves, not control them. All Elves are very pure of heart and quite powerful. I don’t see them following him to do evil. It could corrupt Vilya though from preserving the world to maybe harming it?
@@Poggle_der_GeringereTolkien said that no one could destroy the One Ring in the place of its making. Since that’s the only place it could be unmade you’ve got a bit of a paradox. Providence is responsible for the multiple steps/choices necessary to set up the situation where the ring was destroyed-that and perhaps a little nudge by the Valar but that’s speculation. In any case Elrond is simply mistaken. No man or elf could have dropped the ring into the fire. As for the elvish rings, had Sauron regained the One he would have been able to control the elves wearing the three. He would have known what they knew, seen what they saw, heard what they heard. To some degree caused them to act or wield power through them-no idea how much. The only solution was to remove the elvish rings, which is what the elves did the first go-around.
This girl gets it. she not only understands what she is watching she picks up on all the little stuff, it is nice to see someone in your gen have an intelligent watchful mind. Great video or reaction.
The greatest story ever told. Books are amazing, and they did a wonderful job adapting them to film. They captures the spirit and essence of the books perfectly.
A no spoiler mini-explanation (very simplified) to help fully appreciate The Lord of the Rings. The author is JRR Tolkien, who was an Oxford professor, a linguist/philologist and historian. He literally spent his entire life creating the world of Middle-earth, the novel published in 1954. His purpose was to write a mythology history for England, including a creation story inspired by his devout Catholic faith. The languages heard in the movie were created, completely, by Tolkien. Several dialects of Elvish, the dwarf language, and the Black Speech of Mordor. In Tolkien’s world, Eru Ilúvatar is the Creator. Aiding in fulfilling his purpose are the Valar (think archangels) and Maia (angels). Some (not all) of the Valar and Maia have significant roles through the ages. Also, a few Valar and Maia are evil. The events in LOTR take place in the Third Age, with the forging of the great rings and battle seen in the prologue occurring in the Second Age. In other words, there is a ton of history over thousands of years leading up to this particular story. Sauron, the Dark Lord, is a Maia. Gandalf and Saruman are also Maia, and they (along with three others) were sent by Eru Ilúvatar to Middle-earth to aid in the fight against Sauron. They are called the Istari, or Wizards. Their magical powers are limited but they are still very powerful. The “old man” appearance was to appeal as wise men but does not directly translate to being aged as they are literally ageless beings. They were sent to guide, instruct, and impart wisdom, not to be warriors or solve problems, hence the rare use of "magic". Incidentally, the Balrog is also a Maia (one of the evil ones), which is why Gandalf had to confront it. Elves are immortal. They can be killed in battle, but their souls return to Valinor (the Undying Lands), the dwelling place of the Valar, and are given a new body. Valinor is separated from Middle-earth, reachable only by ships built by the elves at the Grey Havens. You will often see some calling it "heaven" as a simplistic way to describe it, but this is wrong. Valinor is called the Undying Lands because immortal flesh-and-blood elves dwell there in harmony with the Valar, who are spirit beings with a bodily form. Valinor is not an after-death spirit realm like heaven. Aside from a handful of notable exceptions, elves are the only race to ever set foot on Valinor. There have been only two other elf and human unions, so Arwen and Aragorn are very unique. In all cases, the elf maiden had to choose mortality to be with the human man she loved. This is a BIG deal, just keep that in mind. Lord Elrond of Rivendell is the child of one such union. He was also faced with a choice, deciding to be an elf. His twin brother, Elros, chose to be human, becoming the first King of Númenor. Directly from his line came Elendil and Isildur, and then much later Aragorn. Side note: The vial of starlight that Galadriel gave to Frodo is captured light from the star of Earendil (very long story told in The Silmarillion) who was a half-elf and the father of Elrond and Elros. Galadriel is by far the most powerful elf in Middle-earth, and she is wholly good and wise. She was born in Valinor in a time before the sun and moon were created, so is easily 9000 years old, probably much more. She is the keeper of Nenya, one of the three elven rings. It doesn’t come into the movies, but the other two rings are kept by Elrond and Gandalf, who was given his by Cirdan, Lord of the Grey Havens. The daughter of Lady Galadriel and Lord Celeborn married Elrond, so Arwen is her granddaughter. Legolas is an Elven prince, the son of an Elven king from another realm which does not play into this story but does in The Hobbit. He has known Gandalf and Aragorn for a very long time. Elves and Dwarves have thousands of years of bad blood between the races, hence Gimli and Legolas not liking each other in the beginning. I’ll end with the Hobbits. They live normally as long as humans, perhaps a bit more, so Bilbo (who comes from a line of long-lived Hobbits) is old by Hobbit standards but not beyond possibility. What makes him different is that he has barely aged. Bilbo is Frodo's uncle, taken in and named Bilbo's heir when Frodo's parents died. Samwise Gamgee is Frodo and Bilbo’s gardener, so technically he works for the wealthy, upperclass Bagginses, hence the occasional “Mr. Frodo.” There is a slight class structure, as was common in England during Tolkien’s life. Merry (Meriadoc Brandybuck) and Pippin (Peregrin Took) are distantly related to Frodo. Frodo is 50 when he leaves the Shire, Samwise is 38, Merry 36, and Pippin is 26 so still in his “tweens” (Hobbits come of age at 33) which is why he tends to be the most foolish. Give him time! Facts to keep in mind: 1) The Ring has a will of its own and wants to return to the hand of Sauron, who is the only one who can truly control the power. Also, the Ring exerts a powerful evil influence on all who are close to it and evil is drawn to it. 2) Middle-earth is big! The quest lasts just over a year, a vast amount of ground is covered, and the now-splintered fellowship meet a lot of new “people” along the way. Great reaction! You will LOVE this wonderful ride. The next two movies get better and better. As others will surely note in the comments, I strongly recommend the extended versions. And speaking as a Tolkien fan for close to 50 years, what Peter Jackson et al did with these 3 movies is a true masterpiece in every conceivable way. While there was much left out due to time (believe it or not), and obviously changes in pacing, story elements, and so on must be made when adapting to cinema, the movie barely strays from the novel by Tolkien.
I’ve read the Silmarillion and am reading the other books now, currently reading Beren and Luthien ; your explanation is awesome! The backstory makes the movies much more enjoyable
The extended version is the only way to do 'Return of the King' due to a very important character not being dealt with in the theatrical cut. Honestly, PJ, there was a lot of other stuff that should have been cut to make room for that.
Cool context from book not shown in movie: Aragorn didn't meet them 'by chance" at the Prancing Pony... For decades, Gandalf knew a powerful magic ring was in the Shire (didn't know it was THE ring or where exactly it was). He secretly assigned Aragorn and the Rangers in his command to protect the borders of the Shire. Part of why it was so peaceful there. When Gandalf left to consult with Saruman, he told Aragorn that he found which hobbit had the ring, and that he would return shortly, meet "Frodo" on the road, and take him to Rivendale. Aragorn knew something bad happened when Gandalf never returned, his rangers reported some hobbits leaving the Shire, but they never arrived anywhere, and then ring Wraiths were spotted searching the area. Not sure what to do, Aragorn hid himself behind shrubs next to the main East road between the Shire and Rivendale. He later saw 4 hobbits pass by and overheard one say to the other, "Remember, when we get to Bree, don't use my name, 'Baggins' anymore. It's not safe. My name will be Underhill." Aragorn thought this was very suspicious and worth inspecting. He followed them all the way to the Prancing Pony. His hunch was right and he saved them. Without this "chance meeting" the Wraiths would've caught them easily and got the Ring.
@@TheOctobersReact "Chance" is kind of a theme in the books, It's by chance Gollum comes by the ring, it's by chance Bilbo finds it, it's by chance Merry and Pippin join Frodo and Sam It's by chance that Aragorn finds the hobbits and so on. but is it really by chance or is there a (or more) greater power(s) at work? The ring manipulates it's chances we know that because it abandons Gollum and betray Isildur, but we also know it's not the only power at play as it did not expect Bilbo to be the one to find it. So many believe it's eru ilúvatar (essentially god) that nudges things in the other direction.
"The Company of the Ring shall be Nine; and the Nine Walkers shall be set against the Nine Riders that are evil..." --Elrond from the books. So yeah, there does seem to be a connection to the number of rings (and thus number of Nazgul) and the number in the Fellowship. Also Hobbit's don't wear shoes or boots because their feet are so naturally tough and insulated by their wooly hair on them.
In case you didn't know, Andy Serkis is the actor who motion captured and voiced Gollum. If I am correct, Andy Serkis became the og of motion capture for tons of future franchises, not just motion capturing and voicing, but helping the industry overall. He is Klaw from Ultron(the guy that got his arm chopped) and upcoming black panther. He did motion capture for Ceaser in planet of the apes films, Peter Jackson King Kong, and many other films.
The ring is prolonging Bilbo's life and somehow Bilbo felt it too (as he mentions himself as "butter scaped over too much bread...")... these lines are amazing!!! As a kid I would love the action scenes but watching it as a grown up and appreciating it's art is a whole different thing.
Just did a re-watch of your awesome reaction & I have to say that by way of keeping my ears open that Mrs October is the FIRST person to get the correllation between the 9 companions and the 9 rings gifted to the race of men - they who became the Nazgul. Kudos, young lady. 🤘
42:01 “It’s still sharp,” is an Easter egg referring to Sean Bean’s previous hit series Sharpe’s War. He later became known more widely for playing Ned Stark in Game of Thrones.
What I love about this film is that it really immerses the viewer into this world, and establishes everything that makes the second and third films work. The design of this film is second to none.
I just wanna say that this is BY FAR one of the best reaction vids to this franchise Ive have ever seen. You include a lot of the film and cut away at times but keep the dialogue. Idk how you do it, maybe other youtubers are too worried about monetizing their vids. Regardless of that. Trust me when I say that this kinda content will keep me coming back.
First, “droppin’ no eaves” rarely gets a chuckle, so instant sub. Second, welcome to Middle Earth! I hope you enjoy the journey. Third, PLEASE at least do the extended edition for the Two Towers. There’s one scene in the movie that gives some backstory to Boromir and sets up more understanding in the third movie. Last, I think this story can relate to everyone in some way… so may the Blessing of Elves, Men, and Free Folk go with you!
31:42 - as it turns out, the Ring makes you invisible in the normal world, but it makes you visible and able to see in the Wraith's plain. Scary stuff. Basically momentarily makes you a Wraith.
Great reaction, I hope you continue to watch the extended versions. I know they are long but the little bits of detail they add fill out the story pretty nicely
51:15 A bit I love from the book is that Moria was a big trade city in friendly times so the password was literally in the riddle, but the war was building for so long that Gandalf was overthinking it and didn't go for the obvious answer
I don't know if anyone has already explained it in the comments, but I would like to describe the character of Gandalf here. Many people unfamiliar with the world of "The Lord of the Rings" may wonder why, as a wizard, he rarely uses magic even though it would be useful in many situations. To understand this, you need to know who Gandalf actually is. So Gandalf, or rather Olorin because that is his real name, is not a man who learned magic, he is a Maiar, i.e. a minor spiritual being, something like an angel who was sent in the 3rd era to Middle-earth together with 4 other Maiars (including Saruman) to support all the free peoples of Middle-earth who want to oppose evil. These maiars who were sent to Middle-earth were called Istari, but they were not supposed to go against Sauron in arms using their power, their mission was completely different. They were supposed to support and help all those who wanted to oppose evil, they were supposed to give advice, convey true wisdom, encourage them, guide them along the path of fighting evil, but not fight this evil on their own. That's why Gandalf doesn't want to, and perhaps isn't even allowed to, use his full power, and that's why all the Istaris, even though they were vaguely angelic beings, took the form of old sages. Gandalf was therefore a kind of mentor or guide who was supposed to help all the free peoples of Middle-earth (men, elves, dwarves, hobbits, etc.) in the fight against the evil of Sauron (who was also a Maiar). And a true and good mentor is not someone who will appear as bigger and more powerful than us and solve our problems in a way that is incomprehensible to us, but someone who will guide us so that we can solve these problems ourselves, even with great effort. And this is the mission of Gandalf and other Istaris, to make the inhabitants of Middle-earth defeat evil on their own, and he was only supposed to lead, motivate, advise and help them. That's why he often behave like an ordinary person in many even fatal situations, even though he is a powerful, immortal being. The Istarii themselves hid their true origins and importance in Middle-earth, which is why they were simply called wizards due to their ability to use magic. It was also easy for Gandlaf to list the people when they did not feel for him as a great leader of being, but for someone else like them. The name Gandalf itself means "gray pilgrim" because Gandalf wore gray robes and had no residence in Middle-earth, which means he was always on the road, traveling and learning about this world and the creatures and persons that inhabit it. However, he was not interested only in persons such as rulers or great warriors from among people, elves or dwarves, but his user did not miss even seemingly small and insignificant creatures such as hobbits. Only a few powerful elven rulers lead the origins of Gandalf but the rest of the elves do not and he is called Mithrandir which simply means "elf wand" because Gandalf, like the elves, is immortal and does not age hence many elves progress that he is one of them and that he always carries a staff as a wand, hence the name. Gandalf, however, understood that there were dangers in the way he led the people of Middle-earth, that they cant defeat even despite their willingness and efforts. When it is available and supernatural e.g. like the Balrog (who is the fallen Maiar) then Gandalf does not hesitate to use his full power and then allows himself to be seen in moments of his real face. Summary Summary: Gandalf is a Maiar, an angelic, immortal, being older than Middle-earth itself, who was sent to Middle-earth to help its inhabitants fight evil and their letter to defeat evil, not to destroy evil through consciousness. This place is rarely used and has the right skills.
If you haven't seen the other two, then get ready, because they only get better from here. Glad y'all are knocking this series out - it's worth your time for sure!
It was filmed in New Zealand. It’s a great trilogy. Great music, story, characters, cinematography, acting. It’s a great trilogy and was written a long time ago. When it reminds you of fantasy of present day it’s most like from this story. Tolkien was so creative. He also created the Elvish language and Liv Tyler became fluent in it.
This trilogy is a work of art that will be loved for a long, long time. So glad even the Oscars recognized it. You two are really naturally funny with your comments but also show great emotion! Really fun watching you two! Can't wait till the next two movies!
1:13:00 - That moment was not scripted. In the heat of the moment, the baddie really did throw the knife, and the actor playing Aragorn really did deflect it. And that’s the take that’s in the movie. And those weren’t no “prop” weapons neither. So badass.
The Stuntman/Actor had waaaaay to much makeup to be able to see anything almost and was suppose to throw it to the side of him and add CGI into it. The fact that Viggo took his role so serious prior to filming and did amazing sword training is what saved him there xD and some luck. Still...one of the sickest shots ever
Love seeing both of your eyes slowly welling up from the music and visuals when Sam goes after Frodo in the water. Such powerful filmmaking. Thanks for sharing your reaction to this masterpiece.
The music the acting the casting the writing the art the design the clothing the details... absolute perfection. Just this world alone is enough to make you sad in your heart that its not real.
"Not some blockheaded Bracegirdle from Hardbottle!" He's talking about his relatives who are banging on the door, they are bothering him and have been for decades trying to get his house
One thing that doesn't come out in the movie and has some reactors wondering why Merry and Pippin so willingly go with Frodo and Sam is that Merry and Pippin (in spite of their using Frodo's full name upon the first meeting between them) is that the three are close cousins. In the book, Merry and Pippin actually plan on going with Frodo even before he leaves the Shire (which was not as precipitous as portrayed in the movie.)
48:01 I want you to know that this one phrase has POISONED my vocabulary for the foreseeable future, every time something unexpected or spooky shows up it just spills out of my mouth, regardless of context. I was shopping with my friend earlier this week, and we saw a really good sale on chicken and without even thinking I said "Yo, that's some crebain from dunland" and he looked at me like I was insane and I HAD NO REBUTTAL FOR HIM. Additionally, that line is doubly funny because despite the fact that you said "Dublin" and not "Dunland", the original definition of Crebain comes from Irish mythology as a kind of cursed, evil crow, and Dublin is the capital of Ireland, so you were somehow wrong AND right at the same time lmao
“…let’s not call it a fiery slit…” 😂 you get a sub for that! Also just wanted to say that Bilbo giving up the ring is an extraordinary act of willpower, as you’ll realise if you watch the next films.
“That blond guy is giving me Hawkeye vibes” It’s the other way around, hence Tony’s “Clench up, Legolas” to Clint when giving him a lift to a building top in _Avengers._
Important Fact: "Pipe Weed" isnt marijuana. Its referring to tobacco which for many years was referred to as a weed. This has been confirmed by the original author, the foundation, and even the movie executives.
Yeah, weed just meant any herbaceous plant in old English. Many common plants have weed in their name such as chickweed, milkweed, fireweed, etc. Pipeweed is a rendering of Nicotiana sp. into an English-style common name. Nice to see some comments pushing back against the contemporary and erroneous interpretation that it's marijuana.
However, nicotine is the third most common psychoactive substance after caffeine and alcohol. We don't know what effect it had on Hobbits, Dwarves, or Wizards.
In Tolkien’s day, tobacco was seen as a lower-class indulgence, something the upper classes did not partake in (it was in common use among academics like Tolkien, but in the United Kingdom then, unlike the United States today, academics were not seen as high status. So since the upper classes have far less disdain for tobacco today (socially, though not for health reasons), Peter Jackson portrayed pipe-weed as if it were marijuana, to emphasize the fact that its use was not common save among hobbits and other bumpkins (which is why Saruman shamed Gandalf for his habit, and so carefully hid the fact of his own habit). Since I live in a part of the Midwest with a large number of Burmese immigrants, a version of the Lord of the Rings set in the modern era of my city might show the hobbits chewing (and spitting) betel nut.
Hands down the best reaction to LOTR I have seen so far. What I love is how attentive and respectful you all are to the effort put into making the show and the love you give to the fandom. This has been my comfort show in which I watch multiple times a year. I suspect I will be watching your heartwarming reactions to LOTR multiple times a year as well. Thank you! Love from Trinidad & Tobago
I was 17 when this came into theatres in New Zealand and the hype was real.. I grew up about a 30min drive from where Hobbiton/The Shire was filmed.. i have watched these films countless times and read the books to completion once a year.. im so glad you enjoyed this one, im so excited to join you on this journey.. ❤
Love how in-tune you two are with the characters and their emotions.. these movies are so moving they will make you want to be a better person.. can't wait to see you two watch 2 & 3..! *subscribes*
4:53 I know it's a very late comment about this time stamp but... At the beginning of the movie it's clearly stated that "the ring wants to be found" by its master. Just as it slipped off Gollum's possession, so it did from Frodo's
The Trilogy of 'Lord of the Rings' was filmed entirely and consecutively in New Zealand, and Peter Jackson was born there. To this very day one can visit the Shire. It is a tourist attraction.
The amount of work Jackson put in to make it right was amazing. He built Hobbiton a year before they started filming. He wanted the paths and the gardens to look right. From the books Hobbits are a peaceful people but if they can't avoid danger they will fight. Their marksmanship is second only to the elves although because of their size. Also in the book both Merry and Pippin knew Frodo had to leave and went with him to protect him. They also were not the fools they are shown to be in the beginning, although in the movie that changes somewhat. There was a lot that had to be left out of the movies although overall Mr Jackson did a phenomenal job. I still miss Tom Bombadil though, whatever he is other than the oldest. Arwen in being with Aragorn is giving up her immortality which is why her father, Elron, is against her being with him. Wizards are effectively 2nd level angels, and are bound by certain rules. Unlike humans, and elves, and probably Hobbits, the dwarves are not created by the designated creator. The first Dwarf Durin was created by one of the angels who was too impatient. They did not fit in with the creator's plan. Because they were made not from malice but over eagerness they were put to sleep so they would not interfere with the overall plans. They were awakened after the emergence of the elves, but before humans.
1:06:14 Galadriel was able to resist the ring’s corruption. Going to the west means she’ll travel to the undying lands. That is were the Valar live and any elves that wish to leave Middle Earth.
You missed Gandalf saying Bilbo was Frodo's uncle. The film shows off the beautiful scenery of New Zealand, in fact the set of Hobbiton is still there for tours.
Fun fact, the swords that Strider gives the hobbits were forged hundreds of years ago for the war that brought down the northern kingdom. They are embedded with anti-Nazgûl spells-that is why the Black Riders were creeping up on the hobbits so slowly and cautiously on Amon Sûl.
Not quite. Those swords in the movie were not the same swords from the Fellowship book- inside Barrow Downs “mausoleum/ crypt” the hobbits were prisoners in; until rescued by Tom Bombadil. That part was cut from the screenplay for time and TONE.
@@JayPadrig but the sword Merry carried was definitely imbued with anti-Nazgûl spells. It’s what turned the Nazgûl mortal so that Eowyn could strike the killing blow.
@@gremmlingee sorry, but Merry lost his dagger to an orc at the battle before Fangorn Forest. The sword he pledges to Theoden’s service must be a different blade.
Fun Fact: The end fight where the orc boss throws the knife at Aragorn. You said "he almost hit that thing"......well in fact he DID hit that thing. The orc actor had intended to throw wide and they CGI the knife closer, but he messed up and threw a very REAL knife at Viggo the actor. Viggo had taken many many real sword fighting lessons though and with his real fast reflexes, actually deflected the knife. They used that shot for the movie and thats also why the sound of the knife seems so real..... because it was.
Love it, when someone else starting the journey of these amazing beautiful 3 movies. My favourites of all time. Just to let you know: Fellowship gets 4 Oscars, the second movie 2 Oscars, and the last was nominated for 11 Oscars...and gets them all! It will be an emotional rollercoaster, especially for the last one. As i can see, you can get very emotional, so collect your tissues, and as i said, especially for the last one.
Your guys' accent is a treat. I'm a NYer who grew to love southern accents during my military service! Y'all just got another viewer! Lord of the Rings is my favorite of all time!!!
Great reactors! Genuinely watching and following the story with the right amount of commentary 👏🏾 It was filmed in New Zealand, we still have some of the set you can visit, it did great things for our tourism lol
@52:24 The elf's name is Legolas. In a salute to these movies, when Iron Man flies Hawkeye to the top of a building during "Avengers", he says, "Clench up, Legolas."
24:01 every time the Black Riders come near the One Ring, they emit a passive but powerful spell compelling whoever holds the Ring to put it on, thus making the Ringbearer become super visible to them, essentially lighting up like a beacon.
Please watch the Extended Editions for the remaining two!!! One of the greatest scenes of the whole trilogy is “Concerning Hobbits”. It wasn’t included in this version. Beautiful scenes!
@TheOctobersReact The Extended edition of the Fellowship really fleshes out Boromir being sympathetic with some extra scenes including a good one with him and Aragorn.
New viewer and I am ENJYOING the reaction and the comments. The "Gandalf serving 25 up there." had me rolling. I hope you continue watching this trilogy as its one of the best movie series of all time imo. I recommend watching the extended edition of the other two movies as you get a LOT more backstory and details, they're long but worth imo. Also, quick little "fun" fact, at the very beginning when Gandalf comes back to Bag End and scares Frodo it had been 17 years since he left the ring with Frodo, the detail is left out of the movie to reduce the time frame.
I didn't see it said, so; when Galadriel speaks about "passing the test", she means that, like Gandalf, she was freely offered the Ring of Power and resisted the temptation to take it. The Ring is sorta like a genie; it offers you your heart's desire, but always at a terrible cost that ends in utter destruction and always with the intention to return to Sauron. Galadriel would have had a reign of love and beauty, but even that would be perverted through force to something pretty much as nasty and cruel as Sauron's Mordor, and it would consume her as it consumed all. Galadriel resisted the temptation, accepting that she would lose the power to protect the world she loved, and become less, and still keep herself. Invokes concepts around aging. Galadriel, BTW, is one of the three Ring-bearers of the Elvish Rings. Another is Elron, which is part of why their lands are still impregnable to Sauron's forces, even as his power rises. However, Gandalf, in the books, notes that, while the Elvish realms would be the last to fall to Sauron, in part due to their Rings, they would eventually succumb to a fully-reformed Dark Lord, which is part of why the Elves were leaving. Another part was that the failing strength of the Elves meant they couldn't hope to defeat Sauron on the battlefield this time, even if they could rely on Men as much as they had before, which they couldn't. Last note; I recall hearing once that the reason we say "Elves" and "dwarves" and not "Elfs" and "dwarfs" is largely down to Tolkien, who, being a linguist, preferred the sound and feel of the "-ves" over the awkwardness of "-fs". The cultural impact of LOTR is hard to overstate. Arguably, it invented modern fantasy and led to video games as a medium. Glad you guys are enjoying it, and thanks for sharing!
YAY! So glad y’all have started this journey! I’d HIGHLY recommend watching the extended version for The Two Towers as it gives a lot more backstory and context to certain characters (IYKNK). Cannot wait for your next reaction!
@@TheOctobersReact Nah, it’s all good. Imo the most important extended edition to watch is the second one anyway. There’s definitely good extended content in Fellowship and Return of the King, but you get a lot more character development in Two Towers
This is the most beautiful story ever written. The deep themes and messages you learn as you watch it or read it many times are timeless. You're going to love the next two movies.
When she said she passed the test, she meant the ring's test. Every time someone beholds the ring they become tempted. The ring is offers power and the weak minded often fall or go insane. She passed because she regained her sense of self. And going into the west means leaving middle earth, along with all elf kind.
No spoilers, Samwise Gamgee is the standard by which I judge any friend that claims to be a "ride or die". If not now I believe by the end of the trilogy you will see this as well. Really enjoyed y'alls reaction, as well as your channel in general. These movies are a trilogy in the truest sense, do not expect closure until you reach the end of the third movie. In any case I eagerly look forward to the rest of your reactions both relating to this series and those that do not. Cheers!
So much I'm sure others will tell you, so I'll add this. Galadriel was also a ring-bearer. She wore Nenya, the Ring of Adamant, untouched by Sauron, so with it she was able to keep Lothlorien protected. Even Gandalf wore a ring of power, Narya, the Ring of Fire, which he was gifted from the elder Elf Cirdan. I'm sure Peter Jackson (who was eating a carrot as the Hobbits entered Bree; he makes cameos in all three films) didn't use this so it wouldn't confuse the audience with too many rings. But knowing of the other rings helps to explain much, but not knowing doesn't detract from the storyline. So much left to experience, hope you enjoy it all.
Yes. Sam is the brother from 50 first dates. The actors name is Sean Astin. One of his earlier movies he did was called The Goonies (which y’all should check out). Crazy thing about that movie too is the actor playing his brother is Josh Brolin who plays Thanos in the Marvel movies
Legolas is Orlando Bloom, Borimir is Sean Bean, Glmli is John Rhys Davies (Sellah in the "Indiana Jones Movies") and the tallest of all the actors.Gandalf is Sir Ian McKellan (the older Magneto in the "Xmen" series). Saruman is Sir Christopher Lee, he actually knew the author! FYI, Sir Christopher (Count Duku in the "Star Wars" saga) is the real life inspiration for the character James Bond! Author Ian Flemming was his' cousin. Sir Christopher was a spy for the British during World War 2 and almost married a Danish Princess!
Sir Christopher was also a connoisseur of heavy metal and released a heavy metal Christmas album, which is something everyone should experience at least once. The man lead an insane life. Real life spy and Nazi hunter, acted in well over 200 movies.
Bilbo Walking Song: “Roads go ever ever on, Over rock and under tree, By caves where never sun has shone, By streams that never find the sea; Over snow by winter sown, And through the merry flowers of June, Over grass and over stone, And under mountains in the moon. Roads go ever ever on Under cloud and under star, Yet feet that wandering have gone Turn at last to home afar. Eyes that fire and sword have seen And horror in the halls of stone Look at last on meadows green And trees and hills they long have known” The original version of the song is recited by Bilbo in the last chapter of The Hobbit, at the end of his journey back to the Shire. Coming to the top of a rise he sees his home in the distance, and stops and essentially sings what I shared above! There are three versions of this walking song in The Lord of the Rings. The first is sung by Bilbo when he leaves the Shire and is setting off to visit Rivendell: The Road goes ever on and on, Down from the door where it began. Now far ahead the Road has gone, And I must follow, if I can, Pursuing it with eager feet, Until it joins some larger way Where many paths and errands meet. And whither then? I cannot say. The second version is identical except for changing the word "eager" to "weary" in the fifth line. It is spoken aloud, slowly, by Frodo, as he and his companions pause on their way to Crickhollow, looking beyond to lands that some of them have never seen before. The third version is spoken by Bilbo in Rivendell after the hobbits have returned from their journey. Bilbo is now an old, sleepy hobbit, who murmurs the verse and then falls asleep. The Road goes ever on and on Out from the door where it began. Now far ahead the Road has gone, Let others follow it who can! Let them a journey new begin, But I at last with weary feet Will turn towards the lighted inn, My evening-rest and sleep to meet. 1977: The Hobbit (1977 film): Sections of the poem are sung during the trip through Mirkwood. It appears on the soundtrack titled "Roads". 1980: The Return of the King (1980 film): A song inspired by the poem is sung at the end of the film called "Roads Go Ever, Ever On". 1981: The Lord of the Rings (1981 radio series): Bilbo sings the song as he leaves Bag End. It is sung by John Le Mesurier to a tune by Stephen Oliver. 1997: An Evening in Rivendell: The Tolkien Ensemble adapted an original melody to the song, composed by Caspar Reiff. 2001: The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring: Parts of the song are sung by Gandalf in his first appearance, and also by Bilbo as he leaves Bag End. 2006: The Lord of the Rings Musical: The poem is the basis of the song "The Road Goes On" sung by Sam, Frodo, Merry, and Pippin in the first act. 2014: The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies: Lines of the poem partially make up the lyrics of The Last Goodbye, performed by Billy Boyd(Pippin) for the credits of the film. This is just stuff to know when you see the next films. Maybe seeing this will spark something you read here or in other people’s comments via future reactions to the other 2 films as well as the 3 The Hobbit movies!
I was there in 2001 in the cinema... I know the feeling I had if we watched it. My sister watched it 21x in that year. One of the best movie triology ever made with such many great actors.
LOL! Frodo was actually 50 years old when he set out on this quest, the same age as Bilbo when he set off with Gandalf and the dwarves on the adventure during which he encountered Gollum and came to have the ring.
"The music is just ... amazing." It's more than that. It's not just background music, but takes part in telling the story. It's in tune with the action, and several times stops suddenly at critical action points. In at least one place, it helps carry the story forward when no living beings are present.
If that’s the case they will love reacting to “How Howard Shore Uses Voices.” It also dips a toe into Tolkiens world and even introduces a portion of the Ainulindalë in the beginning.
So this was an adventure and a half. I cannot wait for the comments on this one! This movie was great, but we are left on READ bc we have to get into the second one… NOW!
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I look forward to the rest of the movies. Great job.
thanks ☺️ we loved it thanks for watching !
Are you watching the theatrical edition or extended? Also, I don't know if anyone mentioned this, but you can actually take a tour of the Shire in New Zealand. 1 other fact, was that when the Uruk-Hai threw the knife at Aragorn, the actor unknowingly threw the real knife and Viggo blocked it.
Don't know if it's already been said, but as it's never explained in the movies, only Tolkien's written works, the five wizards (we only see Gandalf and Saruman in the first trilogy) are spirits/angels called maiar created by the god Iluvatar, sent down to middle earth with a human-looking body approximating old men. They are however NOT old men in the sense that they only LOOK like old men and actually are very strong, durable and agile. They were initially sent to middle earth with the mission to rally the good mortal races against Sauron in order to remove/destroy Sauron. They were explicitly told not to directly try to take on the mission of destroying Sauron themselves, only act as guides to the mortals and encourage and direct them onto the right path.
It is the guy from 50 first dates
Also the main character in Goonies
Bilbo was the richest hobbit in the Shire which is why his party was so elaborate. His family had always been well to do, but a dragon hoard can significantly boost one's fortunes. 😉
Indeed. But just for the sake of beeing picky, Bilbo was the richest but no one knew it, most of his fortune was secret. The honor of beeing officially the richest among the hobbits fall into Merry's family, the Brandybucks iirc.
And the Sackville-Bagginses were after his wealth.
Also, even for a hobbit, 111 was extremely rare. It would be similar to a respected elder in a small, very close-knit town turning 100; it's gonna be a community event.
And the troll hoard lol
Dill-hole was richer
The Nazgul not entering the rivers is often confusing for those who haven't read the books. The first time, at the ferry, the black rider stopped because the Brandywine river was too deep and swift for a horse.
When they are pursuing Arwen (carrying Frodo), they hesitate because the river is the border of Imladris (Rivendell) and they know very powerful beings exist there.
makes sense and yes you are right thanks for explaining that and we appreciate you for watching
Good points, thanks! There's also a symbolic level to it; in many cultures, water, especially flowing, deep, clear water, is sorta regarded as holy (makes sense evolutionarily, because finding running clear water was vital to human survival, both via quenching thirst and by not making you crap yourself to death after doing so, because running water is less likely to house high levels of pathogens. Theory is that it's why we like shiny, sparkly things; they look like sunlight reflecting off fast-moving water). Vampires and similar "evil" creatures, for example, often have trouble crossing barriers of water. It also makes sense that Tolkien, who was deliberately intending to make LOTR a folklore for modern Britain the way Arthurian legend was folklore for the medieval nation, would draw on established folklore themes. The Black Riders are servants of Sauron, and are therefore evil, and so don't like water on that level, too, in addition to the already-noted narrative reasons.
One of the reasons Arwen confronts the Riders there is that Rivendell is Elvish, and the land protects Elves as Elves protect the land. When she asks the river for help, it answers.
Yes the flood was not raised by Arwen but actually by Elron.
They dislike water also because Water is the domain of a powerful Valar spirit called Ulmo, who hates both Sauron and his Master, Morgoth, an Evil Valar, banished into the void at the end of the First Age. (The Third Age is almost over in the film. Gandalf is not a man, he is a Maiar Spirit (Like a lesser Angel) sent to aid the people of Middle Earth resist Sauron, another Maiar turned to evil, but Gandalf is enjoined from directly leading these peoples.
Also in the books, the hobbits actually leave the shore on the ferry several minutes before the Black Rider arrives-they are several hundred yards away from the shore by the time the Rider reaches the shore, so rather than try to chase them through a river with a swift cross current, the Black Rider elected to go the long way round by land.
The nail-biting, skin-of-their-teeth escape was invented to create drama, because the book is paced far too leisurely to make an exciting movie without adaptation.
Fun fact: Actor Sean Bean has a severe fear of flying and that was quite a problem during the filming of Lord of the Rings. Scenes were regularly shot in isolated places. The actors and crew were brought by helicopter, but our Boromir was not seen. When the time came again, he would start a walking tour to the filming location hours in advance and already wearing his costume.
The Doors of Moria needed a "Forgot Password?" button.
Boromir is the first to succumb to the evil of the ring because he's the one under the most stress and threat from Sauron. He's from Gondor, which is directly across the river from Mordor. His land is the first target. All the others live much further away. I'm glad you understood that it was the ring's influence on him, and not simply that he was weak or evil. Many reactors don't get it, and think he was just a jerk and a traitor.
Yeah, these are the first reactors I've seen who have understood that this wasn't Boromir's fault... that the ring was WAY beyond him and screwed with his mind. They also immediately caught on to his redemption and actual real bravery and sincerity in trying to save Merry and Pippin.
The programmers didn’t think anyone would need a “Forgot Password?” button because the password was “password” and the instructions were “type ‘password’ to continue.” As Gandalf pointed out, the inscription should have been translated (by him, in fact) as “SAY ‘Friend’ and enter.”
I think more specifically, Boromir already wanted the ring to begin with. He had specifically gone to Rivendell to take the ring for Gondor to use against Mordor. The ring's influence greatly hinges on the people's desire to have the ring, or whatever the ring promises it can provide in the first place. Frodo was obviously the best choice because he really didn't want the ring and he wanted to get rid of it at the earliest opportunity. But the fact that he had to keep others who DID want it, like Boromir and even Sam, was what allowed it to eventually corrupt him by the end. He had to want it in order to keep it out of the wrong hands.
The wizards (actually Maiar spirits) do not have permission to use their full powers to interfere directly with the affairs of Middle Earth. They are supposed to provide wisdom and guidance. Only in very rare moments are they allowed to use their powers, usually when confronted with equally powerful dark forces (like balrogs and nazgul). This is why Gandalf does not use his wizard powers in fights against orcs n stuff.
that makes sense forreal ! thanks for watching 😊
Yeah! They are basically guides. They give their wisdom and advice to people, but will never tell someone what to do, or what to choose. That is the reason Gandalf asked Frodo which patch to take. He knew it was very likely that there was a Balrog in Moria. But it wasn't his role to decide which path to take. It would have interfered to much with fate and/or peoples wills.
At least that is how I see it. Tolkien didn't really like giving people direct and simple answers to his lore. It removes to much of the mystery. Which I think is a great attitude!
He uses a fire spell against the creature outside Moria in the book.
@@ninjabluefyre3815You mean the watcher, that thing is clearly more powerful than orcs, so it makes sense.
@@ninjabluefyre3815 It's also something caused by the disharmony Morgoth infected the Song of Illuvatar with, and therefore something Gandalf was permitted to use his full power against.
Fun movie fact. Aragorn deflecting the knife at 1:13:01 was a real deflect. The actor throwing the knife accidently threw it right at Aragorn and he instinctively deflected it. He could have seriously been injured or killed if he didn't pull that off.
I love the fact that you caught the fact that there are 9 in the Fellowship and that matches the nine black riders. Elrond chooses 9 for the Fellowship in the books for that very reason.
wow makes sense!
The 9 of Rivendell against the 9 of Minas Morgul.
I really love Cate Blanchett 's voice as she narrated the prelude, her voice is really ethereal
But also just great emphasis and timing
There is an extended prologue from a wonderful playlist I can show you. Watch from top to bottom!
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The recent Dune movie tried it, but they didn't have the gravitas to pulls it off (imao). They ain't no CB.
@@Schmitty7546 Nah Dune’s incredible. More so part II
Oh. My. God.
Ya'll are in for an absolute treat. It cannot be overstated how incredible this trilogy is. Not just these movies but Tokien's work in general. It's unbelievable how well written and how deep it goes
Cannot wait to see the rest! Beautiful work!
What he said!
Agree
Enjoying your reactions! When Galadriel says, "I pass the test. I will diminish, and go into the West, and remain Galadriel," there is an immense amount of back story behind her statement. Suffice it to say that Galadriel was an exile from the Undying Lands, where she had rebelled against the Valar, the Lords of the West. The Silmarillion, Tolkien's "Bible" of Middle-earth, is largely about that rebellion. By refusing the Ring when it came within her grasp, Galadriel atoned for her rebellion and was allowed to return into the West. Read the LOTR book and the Silmarillion for the details. It's a long read, but it's worth it!
thanks for clarifying 😊 thanks for watching 😊
@@TheOctobersReact the part about remaining Galadriel is kind of a theme in the author's writing about names and thoughts on how they have power, and changing or concealing names has great meaning behind them. The idea was that if she had taken the ring, she too would become twisted, so twisted that she would not be known as Galadriel, either by taking on another name or by doing things inconsistent with the current being known as "Galadriel" or perhaps other reasons because of the ring. Her resisting the ring and declaring she would remain Galadriel was her refusal to be anything other than who she is. @1:09:18 you keyed in on it. Imagine that it twists you so much out of character, it twists your name away too.
She was not banished. She took a different route before or after Fëanor’s oath. And she had always been keen on travelling to the land of her ancestors. Middle earth. Where they woke to the stars above them at the Cuiviènen
@@themadmallardthe ban was lifted once before but she chose to stay so as to make sure Sauron is eventually defeated. So she has been doubly invitees back to Valinor. She also was slightly pacifist due to how anytime a Ñoldorin elf takes action in a big way the world loses more than it gains and she felt Fëanor’s shadow and or Morgoth’s loomed over her and her actions so she remained eve wise as always.
@@TheOctobersReact she didn’t rebel. Her half uncle did. And it wasn’t so much rebelling. The Ñoldor were the warriors and those who were scholars so they would have the heart to question the Valar and they were allowed to leave to middle earth to pursue the fallen Vala named Morgoth by the elves. Formally Melkor.
The lady Galadriel shows what she would have become if she took the ring, much like why Gandalf wouldn't even touch the ring, the more powerful a person is the more damage the ring would do through corrupting them, Hobbits are simple folk and don't desire much in life so they are tempted less by power, Boromir wanted badly to protect his people, Galadriel would have been a force for nature, and a terrible being to anything that she though despoil it, Gandalf would hunt down anything he so as evil, or bad by the time the ring had done he would probably kill even the smallest of crimes, or even rule everyone thinking he could control everyone as free will means free will to do as you want, so the ring would corrupt good deeds into the opposite of what you started out to do and thats the danger of it, you would never think of destroying something that only helps you do what you see as good, thats the trap
oh wow yes that makes sense thanks for watching 😊
Nice
The Ring tempted people with what they wanted most in the world. Elves want knowledge and personal development, dwarves want treasure mined from caves and crafted into beautiful weapons and jewelry, humans want power and fame. Hobbits want…a full plate, a full glass, a full pipe, and a hole full of children. Kind of hard for the Ring to tempt them.
The Ring did at one point show Sam a vision of Samwise the Strong, with armor and sword, leading troops to victory…which lasted about ten seconds before he chuckled at the very idea, much preferring to imagine a future where he took first prize in vegetables at the fair.
Not gonna lie, hearing you say “confirm your kills people” after learning Sauron’s spirit endured killed me 😂
that’s our creed man!
"He has beautiful hair but he is so annoying"
🤣🤣🤣 Ive watched A LOT of LOTR reviews but never found one this funny! Yall are hilarious!
thank you we really appreciate you
When that little girl comes over the hills screaming Gandalf, and the music crescendos. Brings a tear to my eye every single time. And the acting from Ian Mckellen when he says "So am I dear boy! ... So am I... " And just kind of gets misty eyed staring out over the countryside. It is all just too gaddamn beautiful and all of these tiny little moments are a huge part of what the movies are to me.
Don't be making me emotional in the comments!😭
1:08:51 “How did that head get up there.” Nice under-appreciated touch in these movies - the landscape features scattered ruins from long ago, the time of Aragorn’s ancestor Isildur and before. Like if you were walking around rural Italy and came across the ruins of a wall or amphitheater from Ancient Rome. In ancient times that head was probably part of a statue or monument located in a populated area, maybe a city or fortress. But by now it’s ruined, abandoned, and long since depopulated. Part of a theme in LOTR that things were greater and richer and grander in ancient times, but by now things have degraded, and men are scattered and leaderless.
20:16 I love the little details that show that Saruman is not pure. The black metal staff and the dark streak in his beard.
The 20 minutes of credits at the end of "Fellowship" included everybody that had been involved in the fan website that was launched when the movie series was announced. Anyone that took part in online discussions was given the opportunity to have their name listed. I was one of those fans. I won tickets to the Fellowship premiere in Orlando,Fl. I have a 18" replica statue of Gandalf that I won on-line. I have a replica "Sting" sword that looks and is as heavy as a real sword. But when you slide a switch, it glows blue and hums! My wife an I attended a LOTR marathon when the "Return of the King" was released. It included the Extended editions of the first two movies as well. It started @ 9:30 am, included meals & breaks between the movies and movie related giveaways. It ended the next morning at 1:30 am... and 10 years later we did the "Hobbit" movies at the same theater the same way!!!
wow i absolutely love that you shared that! that was so cool, can you tell us more about your experience bc that is so awesome!
Were you a TORN member back in the day? Man I miss those days, waiting for set photos. I think my favorite story of all is after the Return of the King Oscars which the film won all 11 it was nominated for, the cast skipped out on all the big Hollywood parties and instead went to the fan website party... and stayed there the entire night partying with the fans.
@@mycroft16 Yes I was. I was lucky enough to introduce my entire family to JRR's works and all these movies! I have a Theater Room with a DLP Projector/120" Screen and a 60" 3D TV and 3D Blue Ray DVD player.
I read the books 30 years before the movies came out, I never imagined anybody could create Middle Earth this well, Peter Jackson did a fantastic job. But Sam is MVP!
Sam is the true hero to me
Galadriel statement about passing the test and diminishing and going to the west, was about resisting the temptation of the ring, having her powers diminish in middle earth, and taking a boat with her fellow elves to sail to the undying lands in the west.
i’m glad she passed then! thanks for watching 😊
My older sister tried to read the book to me in 1971 (I was 15) but I wasn’t interested, probably because of the way she read it with over the top enthusiasm and not just as a beautifully written story.
At some point as an adult I read the Hobbit which is the first book. I read all the books in order at least once a year for 9 years.
My verdict on watching the 11 plus hours of the lord of the rings movies at the movie theater was that it should have been 23 hours long! Way too short!!! 😂😂😂 my favorite character in “the hobbit” was Tom Bombadil and he was left out entirely.
Glad you loved it! I will watch all these movies with you!!!😅🎉😂
“That blond haired guy is giving me Hawkeye vibes”
The blonde haired guy is Legolas.
In The Avengers (2012) during the battle of New York Iron Man gives Hawkeye a lift to the top of a building. Before flying him up Tony tells Clint, “Clinch up, Legolas.”
"That was Will Smith"
Holy moly, took me a second but you got me good on this one.
Glad to see more people watching this great trilogy. If you enjoy it, I would absolutely recommend watching the extended cuts, which add a lot.
😂😂😂😂 thanks for watching 😊
Her comments are so funny! 😂 She said the eye of Sauron was a fiery slit... 🤣😂🤣 and she genuinely thought Gandalf was going to eat the moth! 🤣😂
I had a great time! Looking forward to the next two! 😂😘
omg thank you bc sometimes i don’t think before i speak but i’m glad you appreciate them. thanks for watching ❤️
@@TheOctobersReactYou too cute and funny :)
I'm impressed how you immediately without knowing caught onto the Aragorn-Arwen story ;D Indeed, her dad didn't allow them to marry until he was king or rather after the ring-quest when that came up.
The Lord Of The Rings is the #1 trilogy ever made. I saw this in theatres and it was mind-blowing.
I always see people saying Elrond could've killed Isildur after Isildur refused to destroy the ring. There are layers of why it wouldn't have worked:
- Isildur is a great warrior and also had the ring which is known to gift powers to those that use it for evil (or prevent its destruction)
- Isildur is also at that point (after his fathers death on the battlefield) the High King of Gondor and Arnor, his death by Elronds hand would definitely have caused a horrible war between Elves and Men
- Even after killing Isildur and taking the ring (SPOILER for third film) it is not possible to destroy the ring willingly at the place of its origin, where it is most powerful. Elrond would've kept it for himself (thus triggering a war between Elves and Men either way)
Elrond in possession of the ring would be terrifying. He is very powerful among Elves, he would have dominated them and led them to terrible evils.
To add to that, Isildur and Elrond are indirectly related through their ancestors. It would have been an act of kin slaying.
@@alexmckee4683 I don’t think so.
Yes, Elrond is very powerful even without the one ring (though he has Vilya, the most powerful of the three Elven rings iirc). But even Sauron could only influence the Elves, not control them. All Elves are very pure of heart and quite powerful. I don’t see them following him to do evil.
It could corrupt Vilya though from preserving the world to maybe harming it?
@@Poggle_der_GeringereTolkien said that no one could destroy the One Ring in the place of its making. Since that’s the only place it could be unmade you’ve got a bit of a paradox. Providence is responsible for the multiple steps/choices necessary to set up the situation where the ring was destroyed-that and perhaps a little nudge by the Valar but that’s speculation. In any case Elrond is simply mistaken. No man or elf could have dropped the ring into the fire.
As for the elvish rings, had Sauron regained the One he would have been able to control the elves wearing the three. He would have known what they knew, seen what they saw, heard what they heard. To some degree caused them to act or wield power through them-no idea how much. The only solution was to remove the elvish rings, which is what the elves did the first go-around.
This girl gets it. she not only understands what she is watching she picks up on all the little stuff, it is nice to see someone in your gen have an intelligent watchful mind. Great video or reaction.
The greatest story ever told. Books are amazing, and they did a wonderful job adapting them to film. They captures the spirit and essence of the books perfectly.
A no spoiler mini-explanation (very simplified) to help fully appreciate The Lord of the Rings.
The author is JRR Tolkien, who was an Oxford professor, a linguist/philologist and historian. He literally spent his entire life creating the world of Middle-earth, the novel published in 1954. His purpose was to write a mythology history for England, including a creation story inspired by his devout Catholic faith. The languages heard in the movie were created, completely, by Tolkien. Several dialects of Elvish, the dwarf language, and the Black Speech of Mordor.
In Tolkien’s world, Eru Ilúvatar is the Creator. Aiding in fulfilling his purpose are the Valar (think archangels) and Maia (angels). Some (not all) of the Valar and Maia have significant roles through the ages. Also, a few Valar and Maia are evil. The events in LOTR take place in the Third Age, with the forging of the great rings and battle seen in the prologue occurring in the Second Age. In other words, there is a ton of history over thousands of years leading up to this particular story.
Sauron, the Dark Lord, is a Maia. Gandalf and Saruman are also Maia, and they (along with three others) were sent by Eru Ilúvatar to Middle-earth to aid in the fight against Sauron. They are called the Istari, or Wizards. Their magical powers are limited but they are still very powerful. The “old man” appearance was to appeal as wise men but does not directly translate to being aged as they are literally ageless beings. They were sent to guide, instruct, and impart wisdom, not to be warriors or solve problems, hence the rare use of "magic". Incidentally, the Balrog is also a Maia (one of the evil ones), which is why Gandalf had to confront it.
Elves are immortal. They can be killed in battle, but their souls return to Valinor (the Undying Lands), the dwelling place of the Valar, and are given a new body. Valinor is separated from Middle-earth, reachable only by ships built by the elves at the Grey Havens. You will often see some calling it "heaven" as a simplistic way to describe it, but this is wrong. Valinor is called the Undying Lands because immortal flesh-and-blood elves dwell there in harmony with the Valar, who are spirit beings with a bodily form. Valinor is not an after-death spirit realm like heaven. Aside from a handful of notable exceptions, elves are the only race to ever set foot on Valinor.
There have been only two other elf and human unions, so Arwen and Aragorn are very unique. In all cases, the elf maiden had to choose mortality to be with the human man she loved. This is a BIG deal, just keep that in mind. Lord Elrond of Rivendell is the child of one such union. He was also faced with a choice, deciding to be an elf. His twin brother, Elros, chose to be human, becoming the first King of Númenor. Directly from his line came Elendil and Isildur, and then much later Aragorn.
Side note: The vial of starlight that Galadriel gave to Frodo is captured light from the star of Earendil (very long story told in The Silmarillion) who was a half-elf and the father of Elrond and Elros.
Galadriel is by far the most powerful elf in Middle-earth, and she is wholly good and wise. She was born in Valinor in a time before the sun and moon were created, so is easily 9000 years old, probably much more. She is the keeper of Nenya, one of the three elven rings. It doesn’t come into the movies, but the other two rings are kept by Elrond and Gandalf, who was given his by Cirdan, Lord of the Grey Havens. The daughter of Lady Galadriel and Lord Celeborn married Elrond, so Arwen is her granddaughter.
Legolas is an Elven prince, the son of an Elven king from another realm which does not play into this story but does in The Hobbit. He has known Gandalf and Aragorn for a very long time. Elves and Dwarves have thousands of years of bad blood between the races, hence Gimli and Legolas not liking each other in the beginning.
I’ll end with the Hobbits. They live normally as long as humans, perhaps a bit more, so Bilbo (who comes from a line of long-lived Hobbits) is old by Hobbit standards but not beyond possibility. What makes him different is that he has barely aged. Bilbo is Frodo's uncle, taken in and named Bilbo's heir when Frodo's parents died. Samwise Gamgee is Frodo and Bilbo’s gardener, so technically he works for the wealthy, upperclass Bagginses, hence the occasional “Mr. Frodo.” There is a slight class structure, as was common in England during Tolkien’s life. Merry (Meriadoc Brandybuck) and Pippin (Peregrin Took) are distantly related to Frodo. Frodo is 50 when he leaves the Shire, Samwise is 38, Merry 36, and Pippin is 26 so still in his “tweens” (Hobbits come of age at 33) which is why he tends to be the most foolish. Give him time!
Facts to keep in mind:
1) The Ring has a will of its own and wants to return to the hand of Sauron, who is the only one who can truly control the power. Also, the Ring exerts a powerful evil influence on all who are close to it and evil is drawn to it.
2) Middle-earth is big! The quest lasts just over a year, a vast amount of ground is covered, and the now-splintered fellowship meet a lot of new “people” along the way.
Great reaction! You will LOVE this wonderful ride. The next two movies get better and better. As others will surely note in the comments, I strongly recommend the extended versions. And speaking as a Tolkien fan for close to 50 years, what Peter Jackson et al did with these 3 movies is a true masterpiece in every conceivable way. While there was much left out due to time (believe it or not), and obviously changes in pacing, story elements, and so on must be made when adapting to cinema, the movie barely strays from the novel by Tolkien.
wow thank you for that! that was cool to have background info on this bc we didn’t look anything up to avoid spoilers so we appreciate you
@@TheOctobersReact My pleasure!
I’ve read the Silmarillion and am reading the other books now, currently reading Beren and Luthien ; your explanation is awesome! The backstory makes the movies much more enjoyable
The extended version is the only way to do 'Return of the King' due to a very important character not being dealt with in the theatrical cut. Honestly, PJ, there was a lot of other stuff that should have been cut to make room for that.
@@Carandinihe was dealt with in scouring of the shire so it’s pointless to have him kick the bucket the way he did. It’s all out of place lol
Cool context from book not shown in movie: Aragorn didn't meet them 'by chance" at the Prancing Pony...
For decades, Gandalf knew a powerful magic ring was in the Shire (didn't know it was THE ring or where exactly it was). He secretly assigned Aragorn and the Rangers in his command to protect the borders of the Shire. Part of why it was so peaceful there. When Gandalf left to consult with Saruman, he told Aragorn that he found which hobbit had the ring, and that he would return shortly, meet "Frodo" on the road, and take him to Rivendale. Aragorn knew something bad happened when Gandalf never returned, his rangers reported some hobbits leaving the Shire, but they never arrived anywhere, and then ring Wraiths were spotted searching the area. Not sure what to do, Aragorn hid himself behind shrubs next to the main East road between the Shire and Rivendale. He later saw 4 hobbits pass by and overheard one say to the other, "Remember, when we get to Bree, don't use my name, 'Baggins' anymore. It's not safe. My name will be Underhill." Aragorn thought this was very suspicious and worth inspecting. He followed them all the way to the Prancing Pony. His hunch was right and he saved them. Without this "chance meeting" the Wraiths would've caught them easily and got the Ring.
oh wow thanks for telling us that! really thought it was by chance nn
@@TheOctobersReact "Chance" is kind of a theme in the books, It's by chance Gollum comes by the ring, it's by chance Bilbo finds it, it's by chance Merry and Pippin join Frodo and Sam It's by chance that Aragorn finds the hobbits and so on. but is it really by chance or is there a (or more) greater power(s) at work? The ring manipulates it's chances we know that because it abandons Gollum and betray Isildur, but we also know it's not the only power at play as it did not expect Bilbo to be the one to find it. So many believe it's eru ilúvatar (essentially god) that nudges things in the other direction.
"The Company of the Ring shall be Nine; and the Nine Walkers shall be set against the Nine Riders that are evil..." --Elrond from the books. So yeah, there does seem to be a connection to the number of rings (and thus number of Nazgul) and the number in the Fellowship. Also Hobbit's don't wear shoes or boots because their feet are so naturally tough and insulated by their wooly hair on them.
aw hobbit feet are cute ! thanks for watching 😄
In case you didn't know, Andy Serkis is the actor who motion captured and voiced Gollum. If I am correct, Andy Serkis became the og of motion capture for tons of future franchises, not just motion capturing and voicing, but helping the industry overall. He is Klaw from Ultron(the guy that got his arm chopped) and upcoming black panther. He did motion capture for Ceaser in planet of the apes films, Peter Jackson King Kong, and many other films.
wow thanks for letting us know that! really cool! thanks for watching Michael 😄
And the actual Serkis, not the motion capture one, plays Alfred in "The Batman."
@@porflepopnecker4376 He also turns up as himself as an extra in the LOTR films.
He's also directed a bunch of movies now.
He's also done the audio books for all three Lord of the Rings books, and he does ALL of the voices.
The ring is prolonging Bilbo's life and somehow Bilbo felt it too (as he mentions himself as "butter scaped over too much bread...")... these lines are amazing!!!
As a kid I would love the action scenes but watching it as a grown up and appreciating it's art is a whole different thing.
Just did a re-watch of your awesome reaction & I have to say that by way of keeping my ears open that Mrs October is the FIRST person to get the correllation between the 9 companions and the 9 rings gifted to the race of men - they who became the Nazgul. Kudos, young lady. 🤘
dang that’s pretty cool bc she had no idea it was one lol
Wow, bonus points for the "Will Smith" comment in the beginning ( 6:55 ), that one took me a minute!
my dude! i appreciate that
42:01 “It’s still sharp,” is an Easter egg referring to Sean Bean’s previous hit series Sharpe’s War. He later became known more widely for playing Ned Stark in Game of Thrones.
Glad you recognised that in-joke.
What I love about this film is that it really immerses the viewer into this world, and establishes everything that makes the second and third films work. The design of this film is second to none.
I just wanna say that this is BY FAR one of the best reaction vids to this franchise Ive have ever seen. You include a lot of the film and cut away at times but keep the dialogue. Idk how you do it, maybe other youtubers are too worried about monetizing their vids. Regardless of that. Trust me when I say that this kinda content will keep me coming back.
First, “droppin’ no eaves” rarely gets a chuckle, so instant sub.
Second, welcome to Middle Earth! I hope you enjoy the journey.
Third, PLEASE at least do the extended edition for the Two Towers. There’s one scene in the movie that gives some backstory to Boromir and sets up more understanding in the third movie.
Last, I think this story can relate to everyone in some way… so may the Blessing of Elves, Men, and Free Folk go with you!
Yes, Extended editions are mandatory. Think of these movies less as Movies and more like a TV series. Embrace the durations!
31:42 - as it turns out, the Ring makes you invisible in the normal world, but it makes you visible and able to see in the Wraith's plain. Scary stuff. Basically momentarily makes you a Wraith.
Great reaction, I hope you continue to watch the extended versions. I know they are long but the little bits of detail they add fill out the story pretty nicely
got you next time ! thanks for watching 😄
51:15 A bit I love from the book is that Moria was a big trade city in friendly times so the password was literally in the riddle, but the war was building for so long that Gandalf was overthinking it and didn't go for the obvious answer
I don't know if anyone has already explained it in the comments, but I would like to describe the character of Gandalf here.
Many people unfamiliar with the world of "The Lord of the Rings" may wonder why, as a wizard, he rarely uses magic even though it would be useful in many situations.
To understand this, you need to know who Gandalf actually is.
So Gandalf, or rather Olorin because that is his real name, is not a man who learned magic, he is a Maiar, i.e. a minor spiritual being, something like an angel who was sent in the 3rd era to Middle-earth together with 4 other Maiars (including Saruman) to support all the free peoples of Middle-earth who want to oppose evil.
These maiars who were sent to Middle-earth were called Istari, but they were not supposed to go against Sauron in arms using their power, their mission was completely different.
They were supposed to support and help all those who wanted to oppose evil, they were supposed to give advice, convey true wisdom, encourage them, guide them along the path of fighting evil, but not fight this evil on their own.
That's why Gandalf doesn't want to, and perhaps isn't even allowed to, use his full power, and that's why all the Istaris, even though they were vaguely angelic beings, took the form of old sages.
Gandalf was therefore a kind of mentor or guide who was supposed to help all the free peoples of Middle-earth (men, elves, dwarves, hobbits, etc.) in the fight against the evil of Sauron (who was also a Maiar).
And a true and good mentor is not someone who will appear as bigger and more powerful than us and solve our problems in a way that is incomprehensible to us, but someone who will guide us so that we can solve these problems ourselves, even with great effort.
And this is the mission of Gandalf and other Istaris, to make the inhabitants of Middle-earth defeat evil on their own, and he was only supposed to lead, motivate, advise and help them.
That's why he often behave like an ordinary person in many even fatal situations, even though he is a powerful, immortal being.
The Istarii themselves hid their true origins and importance in Middle-earth, which is why they were simply called wizards due to their ability to use magic. It was also easy for Gandlaf to list the people when they did not feel for him as a great leader of being, but for someone else like them. The name Gandalf itself means "gray pilgrim" because Gandalf wore gray robes and had no residence in Middle-earth, which means he was always on the road, traveling and learning about this world and the creatures and persons that inhabit it.
However, he was not interested only in persons such as rulers or great warriors from among people, elves or dwarves, but his user did not miss even seemingly small and insignificant creatures such as hobbits. Only a few powerful elven rulers lead the origins of Gandalf but the rest of the elves do not and he is called Mithrandir which simply means "elf wand" because Gandalf, like the elves, is immortal and does not age hence many elves progress that he is one of them and that he always carries a staff as a wand, hence the name.
Gandalf, however, understood that there were dangers in the way he led the people of Middle-earth, that they cant defeat even despite their willingness and efforts. When it is available and supernatural e.g. like the Balrog (who is the fallen Maiar) then Gandalf does not hesitate to use his full power and then allows himself to be seen in moments of his real face.
Summary Summary: Gandalf is a Maiar, an angelic, immortal, being older than Middle-earth itself, who was sent to Middle-earth to help its inhabitants fight evil and their letter to defeat evil, not to destroy evil through consciousness. This place is rarely used and has the right skills.
wow, okay so Gandalf is very capable he’s just smart. that would make sense why he would chose the sword over his magic in that fight!
It’s more like God or Eru lluvatar limits Gandalf’s power rather than him choosing not to use it. Can’t wait for you guys to watch the two towers.
"that's not the fella you want to be staring at you either", oh he definitely is 😏😂
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If you haven't seen the other two, then get ready, because they only get better from here.
Glad y'all are knocking this series out - it's worth your time for sure!
we love it already! thanks for watching
Eh Fellowship is the best of the three. Even the actors in the trilogy confirm this
It was filmed in New Zealand. It’s a great trilogy. Great music, story, characters, cinematography, acting. It’s a great trilogy and was written a long time ago. When it reminds you of fantasy of present day it’s most like from this story. Tolkien was so creative. He also created the Elvish language and Liv Tyler became fluent in it.
This trilogy is a work of art that will be loved for a long, long time. So glad even the Oscars recognized it. You two are really naturally funny with your comments but also show great emotion! Really fun watching you two! Can't wait till the next two movies!
1:13:00 - That moment was not scripted. In the heat of the moment, the baddie really did throw the knife, and the actor playing Aragorn really did deflect it. And that’s the take that’s in the movie. And those weren’t no “prop” weapons neither. So badass.
absolutely bada$$! thanks for watching 😊
The Stuntman/Actor had waaaaay to much makeup to be able to see anything almost and was suppose to throw it to the side of him and add CGI into it. The fact that Viggo took his role so serious prior to filming and did amazing sword training is what saved him there xD and some luck. Still...one of the sickest shots ever
@@RambinoYT The sword master said that Viggo was one of, if not the best, swordsman he ever trained.
AND shortly before he throws that knife he hits Viggo with a left hook to the face and then a headbutt, both of which actually connected
You can even hear the knife breaking when Viggo deflected it.
Love seeing both of your eyes slowly welling up from the music and visuals when Sam goes after Frodo in the water. Such powerful filmmaking. Thanks for sharing your reaction to this masterpiece.
aw yes it was a pretty intense moment ! thanks for watching !
Genuine reactions always worthy of thumbs.
The music the acting the casting the writing the art the design the clothing the details... absolute perfection. Just this world alone is enough to make you sad in your heart that its not real.
Couldn't agree more!
"Not some blockheaded Bracegirdle from Hardbottle!" He's talking about his relatives who are banging on the door, they are bothering him and have been for decades trying to get his house
One thing that doesn't come out in the movie and has some reactors wondering why Merry and Pippin so willingly go with Frodo and Sam is that Merry and Pippin (in spite of their using Frodo's full name upon the first meeting between them) is that the three are close cousins. In the book, Merry and Pippin actually plan on going with Frodo even before he leaves the Shire (which was not as precipitous as portrayed in the movie.)
48:01 I want you to know that this one phrase has POISONED my vocabulary for the foreseeable future, every time something unexpected or spooky shows up it just spills out of my mouth, regardless of context. I was shopping with my friend earlier this week, and we saw a really good sale on chicken and without even thinking I said "Yo, that's some crebain from dunland" and he looked at me like I was insane and I HAD NO REBUTTAL FOR HIM.
Additionally, that line is doubly funny because despite the fact that you said "Dublin" and not "Dunland", the original definition of Crebain comes from Irish mythology as a kind of cursed, evil crow, and Dublin is the capital of Ireland, so you were somehow wrong AND right at the same time lmao
“…let’s not call it a fiery slit…”
😂 you get a sub for that!
Also just wanted to say that Bilbo giving up the ring is an extraordinary act of willpower, as you’ll realise if you watch the next films.
lol thank you so much thanks for watching 😄
“That blond guy is giving me Hawkeye vibes”
It’s the other way around, hence Tony’s “Clench up, Legolas” to Clint when giving him a lift to a building top in _Avengers._
yes i’m mad we didn’t see this one before so i could laugh super hard at it
Important Fact: "Pipe Weed" isnt marijuana. Its referring to tobacco which for many years was referred to as a weed.
This has been confirmed by the original author, the foundation, and even the movie executives.
Yeah, weed just meant any herbaceous plant in old English. Many common plants have weed in their name such as chickweed, milkweed, fireweed, etc. Pipeweed is a rendering of Nicotiana sp. into an English-style common name.
Nice to see some comments pushing back against the contemporary and erroneous interpretation that it's marijuana.
However, nicotine is the third most common psychoactive substance after caffeine and alcohol. We don't know what effect it had on Hobbits, Dwarves, or Wizards.
In Tolkien’s day, tobacco was seen as a lower-class indulgence, something the upper classes did not partake in (it was in common use among academics like Tolkien, but in the United Kingdom then, unlike the United States today, academics were not seen as high status. So since the upper classes have far less disdain for tobacco today (socially, though not for health reasons), Peter Jackson portrayed pipe-weed as if it were marijuana, to emphasize the fact that its use was not common save among hobbits and other bumpkins (which is why Saruman shamed Gandalf for his habit, and so carefully hid the fact of his own habit). Since I live in a part of the Midwest with a large number of Burmese immigrants, a version of the Lord of the Rings set in the modern era of my city might show the hobbits chewing (and spitting) betel nut.
Nah it’s wacky tobaccy
Hands down the best reaction to LOTR I have seen so far. What I love is how attentive and respectful you all are to the effort put into making the show and the love you give to the fandom. This has been my comfort show in which I watch multiple times a year. I suspect I will be watching your heartwarming reactions to LOTR multiple times a year as well. Thank you! Love from Trinidad & Tobago
I was 17 when this came into theatres in New Zealand and the hype was real.. I grew up about a 30min drive from where Hobbiton/The Shire was filmed.. i have watched these films countless times and read the books to completion once a year.. im so glad you enjoyed this one, im so excited to join you on this journey.. ❤
Lol. "How did he (Gandalf) get there so fast?"
Wizard. Helloooo.😂
Love how in-tune you two are with the characters and their emotions.. these movies are so moving they will make you want to be a better person.. can't wait to see you two watch 2 & 3..! *subscribes*
thanks so so much and thanks for watching 😃
4:53 I know it's a very late comment about this time stamp but... At the beginning of the movie it's clearly stated that "the ring wants to be found" by its master. Just as it slipped off Gollum's possession, so it did from Frodo's
Should've seen it in the theatres! Epic is the only word to describe this trilogy.
i wish but i was like 10 and my parents would never have taken me!
52:23 "That blond hair dude is giving me Hawkeye vibes." At one point in THE AVENGERS, Tony tells Hawkeye "Better clinch up, Legolas."
yes ! we see why that made no sense at the time lol
The Trilogy of 'Lord of the Rings' was filmed entirely and consecutively in New Zealand, and Peter Jackson was born there. To this very day one can visit the Shire. It is a tourist attraction.
The amount of work Jackson put in to make it right was amazing. He built Hobbiton a year before they started filming. He wanted the paths and the gardens to look right. From the books Hobbits are a peaceful people but if they can't avoid danger they will fight. Their marksmanship is second only to the elves although because of their size. Also in the book both Merry and Pippin knew Frodo had to leave and went with him to protect him. They also were not the fools they are shown to be in the beginning, although in the movie that changes somewhat. There was a lot that had to be left out of the movies although overall Mr Jackson did a phenomenal job. I still miss Tom Bombadil though, whatever he is other than the oldest. Arwen in being with Aragorn is giving up her immortality which is why her father, Elron, is against her being with him. Wizards are effectively 2nd level angels, and are bound by certain rules. Unlike humans, and elves, and probably Hobbits, the dwarves are not created by the designated creator. The first Dwarf Durin was created by one of the angels who was too impatient. They did not fit in with the creator's plan. Because they were made not from malice but over eagerness they were put to sleep so they would not interfere with the overall plans. They were awakened after the emergence of the elves, but before humans.
1:06:14 Galadriel was able to resist the ring’s corruption. Going to the west means she’ll travel to the undying lands. That is were the Valar live and any elves that wish to leave Middle Earth.
You missed Gandalf saying Bilbo was Frodo's uncle. The film shows off the beautiful scenery of New Zealand, in fact the set of Hobbiton is still there for tours.
Fun fact, the swords that Strider gives the hobbits were forged hundreds of years ago for the war that brought down the northern kingdom. They are embedded with anti-Nazgûl spells-that is why the Black Riders were creeping up on the hobbits so slowly and cautiously on Amon Sûl.
Not quite. Those swords in the movie were not the same swords from the Fellowship book- inside Barrow Downs “mausoleum/ crypt” the hobbits were prisoners in; until rescued by Tom Bombadil. That part was cut from the screenplay for time and TONE.
@@JayPadrig But the swords may have held the same magic.
@@JayPadrig but the sword Merry carried was definitely imbued with anti-Nazgûl spells. It’s what turned the Nazgûl mortal so that Eowyn could strike the killing blow.
@@isaackellogg3493 Yes thats true, but in the Films they get the Daggers from Galadriel
@@gremmlingee sorry, but Merry lost his dagger to an orc at the battle before Fangorn Forest. The sword he pledges to Theoden’s service must be a different blade.
Fun Fact: The end fight where the orc boss throws the knife at Aragorn. You said "he almost hit that thing"......well in fact he DID hit that thing. The orc actor had intended to throw wide and they CGI the knife closer, but he messed up and threw a very REAL knife at Viggo the actor.
Viggo had taken many many real sword fighting lessons though and with his real fast reflexes, actually deflected the knife. They used that shot for the movie and thats also why the sound of the knife seems so real..... because it was.
"Pipeweed" is tobacco. In the 1st of the Books, JRRT wrote that the Hobbits were known for the domesticating of it.
Favorite movie series of all time can’t wait for all the reactions!
After Bilbo disappeared at the party I imagine gandalf doing a feris bugler run to the house 😂
Love it, when someone else starting the journey of these amazing beautiful 3 movies. My favourites of all time. Just to let you know: Fellowship gets 4 Oscars, the second movie 2 Oscars, and the last was nominated for 11 Oscars...and gets them all! It will be an emotional rollercoaster, especially for the last one. As i can see, you can get very emotional, so collect your tissues, and as i said, especially for the last one.
tissues ahead! i got you! thanks for watching 😀😀
Your guys' accent is a treat. I'm a NYer who grew to love southern accents during my military service! Y'all just got another viewer! Lord of the Rings is my favorite of all time!!!
we love new york accents ! thanks for the kind words 😊
Great reactors! Genuinely watching and following the story with the right amount of commentary 👏🏾
It was filmed in New Zealand, we still have some of the set you can visit, it did great things for our tourism lol
thanks for the feedback we appreciate it ! thanks for watching 😄
@52:24 The elf's name is Legolas. In a salute to these movies, when Iron Man flies Hawkeye to the top of a building during "Avengers", he says, "Clench up, Legolas."
That shot on the road early in the movie when Frodo tells them t get off the road was invented by Alfred Hitchcock in the movie Vertigo.
24:01 every time the Black Riders come near the One Ring, they emit a passive but powerful spell compelling whoever holds the Ring to put it on, thus making the Ringbearer become super visible to them, essentially lighting up like a beacon.
Please watch the Extended Editions for the remaining two!!!
One of the greatest scenes of the whole trilogy is “Concerning Hobbits”. It wasn’t included in this version. Beautiful scenes!
I absolutely am in favour of that. And some important motives of important characters doesn't become clear otherwise.
honestly we didn’t know there was such but bc you pointed it out we will from now on thanks for letting us know about it
@@TheOctobersReact Thanks for taking the time to respond, directly!
of course! it’s what we do here lol thanks for watching
@TheOctobersReact The Extended edition of the Fellowship really fleshes out Boromir being sympathetic with some extra scenes including a good one with him and Aragorn.
1:15:25 When Boromir died, Aragorn put on his bracers to honor him.
oh wow 😯 didn’t notice that thanks for watching 😀
Some of my favorite jokes from you guys. "Will Smith", "Fiery slit", "lil' grim". You two were on fire this day.
yes you knew about lil grim? thanks for watching 😊
New viewer and I am ENJYOING the reaction and the comments. The "Gandalf serving 25 up there." had me rolling. I hope you continue watching this trilogy as its one of the best movie series of all time imo. I recommend watching the extended edition of the other two movies as you get a LOT more backstory and details, they're long but worth imo. Also, quick little "fun" fact, at the very beginning when Gandalf comes back to Bag End and scares Frodo it had been 17 years since he left the ring with Frodo, the detail is left out of the movie to reduce the time frame.
we will have the second installment friday, yes extended edition!
How long did it take Mrs. October to fall under the spell of the One Ring? As soon as it appears on screen: "It's beautiful!" 🤣
I didn't see it said, so; when Galadriel speaks about "passing the test", she means that, like Gandalf, she was freely offered the Ring of Power and resisted the temptation to take it. The Ring is sorta like a genie; it offers you your heart's desire, but always at a terrible cost that ends in utter destruction and always with the intention to return to Sauron. Galadriel would have had a reign of love and beauty, but even that would be perverted through force to something pretty much as nasty and cruel as Sauron's Mordor, and it would consume her as it consumed all.
Galadriel resisted the temptation, accepting that she would lose the power to protect the world she loved, and become less, and still keep herself. Invokes concepts around aging.
Galadriel, BTW, is one of the three Ring-bearers of the Elvish Rings. Another is Elron, which is part of why their lands are still impregnable to Sauron's forces, even as his power rises. However, Gandalf, in the books, notes that, while the Elvish realms would be the last to fall to Sauron, in part due to their Rings, they would eventually succumb to a fully-reformed Dark Lord, which is part of why the Elves were leaving. Another part was that the failing strength of the Elves meant they couldn't hope to defeat Sauron on the battlefield this time, even if they could rely on Men as much as they had before, which they couldn't.
Last note; I recall hearing once that the reason we say "Elves" and "dwarves" and not "Elfs" and "dwarfs" is largely down to Tolkien, who, being a linguist, preferred the sound and feel of the "-ves" over the awkwardness of "-fs". The cultural impact of LOTR is hard to overstate. Arguably, it invented modern fantasy and led to video games as a medium. Glad you guys are enjoying it, and thanks for sharing!
YAY! So glad y’all have started this journey! I’d HIGHLY recommend watching the extended version for The Two Towers as it gives a lot more backstory and context to certain characters (IYKNK). Cannot wait for your next reaction!
yes we will have that next time, tbh we didn’t know
@@TheOctobersReact Nah, it’s all good. Imo the most important extended edition to watch is the second one anyway. There’s definitely good extended content in Fellowship and Return of the King, but you get a lot more character development in Two Towers
I'm calling Saurons eye a firey slit from now on lmao 😂😂😂
This is the most beautiful story ever written. The deep themes and messages you learn as you watch it or read it many times are timeless. You're going to love the next two movies.
you’re not wrong ! so so good!
When she said she passed the test, she meant the ring's test. Every time someone beholds the ring they become tempted. The ring is offers power and the weak minded often fall or go insane. She passed because she regained her sense of self. And going into the west means leaving middle earth, along with all elf kind.
makes sense ! thanks for watching 😊
“The return of the king”…so much emotion, so many tears… masterpiece of masterpieces!!!
cannot wait! thanks for watching 😊
No spoilers, Samwise Gamgee is the standard by which I judge any friend that claims to be a "ride or die". If not now I believe by the end of the trilogy you will see this as well. Really enjoyed y'alls reaction, as well as your channel in general. These movies are a trilogy in the truest sense, do not expect closure until you reach the end of the third movie. In any case I eagerly look forward to the rest of your reactions both relating to this series and those that do not.
Cheers!
"I never thought I would shed tears over a wizard." Well said. I can't wait to see your all's reaction for the next two movies!
ahhh we can’t wait either thanks for watching
So much I'm sure others will tell you, so I'll add this. Galadriel was also a ring-bearer. She wore Nenya, the Ring of Adamant, untouched by Sauron, so with it she was able to keep Lothlorien protected. Even Gandalf wore a ring of power, Narya, the Ring of Fire, which he was gifted from the elder Elf Cirdan. I'm sure Peter Jackson (who was eating a carrot as the Hobbits entered Bree; he makes cameos in all three films) didn't use this so it wouldn't confuse the audience with too many rings. But knowing of the other rings helps to explain much, but not knowing doesn't detract from the storyline. So much left to experience, hope you enjoy it all.
makes sense! bc that woulda been a lot to keep up with potentially! thanks for watching 😊
@@TheOctobersReact for funzies try to spot Peter Jackson in thr next two films. He cameo'ed in each one.
Yes. Sam is the brother from 50 first dates. The actors name is Sean Astin.
One of his earlier movies he did was called The Goonies (which y’all should check out). Crazy thing about that movie too is the actor playing his brother is Josh Brolin who plays Thanos in the Marvel movies
wow! that’s crazy!
Also Rudy!
Legolas is Orlando Bloom, Borimir is Sean Bean, Glmli is John Rhys Davies (Sellah in the "Indiana Jones Movies") and the tallest of all the actors.Gandalf is Sir Ian McKellan (the older Magneto in the "Xmen" series). Saruman is Sir Christopher Lee, he actually knew the author! FYI, Sir Christopher (Count Duku in the "Star Wars" saga) is the real life inspiration for the character James Bond! Author Ian Flemming was his' cousin. Sir Christopher was a spy for the British during World War 2 and almost married a Danish Princess!
Sir Christopher was also a connoisseur of heavy metal and released a heavy metal Christmas album, which is something everyone should experience at least once. The man lead an insane life. Real life spy and Nazi hunter, acted in well over 200 movies.
Bilbo Walking Song: “Roads go ever ever on, Over rock and under tree, By caves where never sun has shone, By streams that never find the sea; Over snow by winter sown,
And through the merry flowers of June,
Over grass and over stone,
And under mountains in the moon.
Roads go ever ever on
Under cloud and under star,
Yet feet that wandering have gone
Turn at last to home afar.
Eyes that fire and sword have seen
And horror in the halls of stone
Look at last on meadows green
And trees and hills they long have known”
The original version of the song is recited by Bilbo in the last chapter of The Hobbit, at the end of his journey back to the Shire. Coming to the top of a rise he sees his home in the distance, and stops and essentially sings what I shared above!
There are three versions of this walking song in The Lord of the Rings.
The first is sung by Bilbo when he leaves the Shire and is setting off to visit Rivendell:
The Road goes ever on and on,
Down from the door where it began.
Now far ahead the Road has gone,
And I must follow, if I can,
Pursuing it with eager feet,
Until it joins some larger way
Where many paths and errands meet.
And whither then? I cannot say.
The second version is identical except for changing the word "eager" to "weary" in the fifth line. It is spoken aloud, slowly, by Frodo, as he and his companions pause on their way to Crickhollow, looking beyond to lands that some of them have never seen before.
The third version is spoken by Bilbo in Rivendell after the hobbits have returned from their journey. Bilbo is now an old, sleepy hobbit, who murmurs the verse and then falls asleep.
The Road goes ever on and on
Out from the door where it began.
Now far ahead the Road has gone,
Let others follow it who can!
Let them a journey new begin,
But I at last with weary feet
Will turn towards the lighted inn,
My evening-rest and sleep to meet.
1977: The Hobbit (1977 film): Sections of the poem are sung during the trip through Mirkwood. It appears on the soundtrack titled "Roads".
1980: The Return of the King (1980 film):
A song inspired by the poem is sung at the end of the film called "Roads Go Ever, Ever On".
1981: The Lord of the Rings (1981 radio series):
Bilbo sings the song as he leaves Bag End. It is sung by John Le Mesurier to a tune by Stephen Oliver.
1997: An Evening in Rivendell:
The Tolkien Ensemble adapted an original melody to the song, composed by Caspar Reiff.
2001: The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring:
Parts of the song are sung by Gandalf in his first appearance, and also by Bilbo as he leaves Bag End.
2006: The Lord of the Rings Musical:
The poem is the basis of the song "The Road Goes On" sung by Sam, Frodo, Merry, and Pippin in the first act.
2014: The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies:
Lines of the poem partially make up the lyrics of The Last Goodbye, performed by Billy Boyd(Pippin) for the credits of the film.
This is just stuff to know when you see the next films. Maybe seeing this will spark something you read here or in other people’s comments via future reactions to the other 2 films as well as the 3 The Hobbit movies!
I was there in 2001 in the cinema... I know the feeling I had if we watched it. My sister watched it 21x in that year. One of the best movie triology ever made with such many great actors.
LOL! Frodo was actually 50 years old when he set out on this quest, the same age as Bilbo when he set off with Gandalf and the dwarves on the adventure during which he encountered Gollum and came to have the ring.
"The music is just ... amazing." It's more than that. It's not just background music, but takes part in telling the story. It's in tune with the action, and several times stops suddenly at critical action points. In at least one place, it helps carry the story forward when no living beings are present.
If that’s the case they will love reacting to “How Howard Shore Uses Voices.” It also dips a toe into Tolkiens world and even introduces a portion of the Ainulindalë in the beginning.
@@Makkaru112 Thanks for the tip. I just went and watched it. Much deeper than I, without a music background, could have delved, but worth the watch.