ALL The Twitch Controversy Explained
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This has been one of the most controversial weeks in Twitch history.
This story spans two years, involves accusations of sexual assault and many of the platform’s biggest streamers have weighed in.
Here’s the story in full.
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thanks for organizing this, much more understandable than clickbaity news services
that because thescore esports is the goat esports channel
Isnt it funny that when its about offlinetv everything is done pu lic and they cancel 2 guys. Fed and albert. But when its about someone elses case where pokimane and hasan are friends with they are dismissive.
Ludwig got a decent summary too
None of these people have done competitive esports though plus Blowblax already covered this in detail.
@@DCsorcery that was 2 - 3 years ago...
The amount of clout chasing is gross. Its like someone trying to quiet a loud room then everyone joins in trying to quiet the room without noticing they are adding to the noise.
Beautifully said
Wholeheartedly agreed
Omg that’s describing it so well, it’s like putting all the loud “funny” students in the same class
Everyone in this vid is a clout video
The only reason I heard about this is because of xqc, why is xqc, poki, and Hassan even a part of this. I'm so. Confused
The thing is, most problems like this are forgotten sooner than later, specially if the assaulter or assaulted is not someone "Big", and thats the sad reality we live in
They are forgotten cuz maybe this shit happens most of the time like any other fucking crime ,
what's more sad that most of the time( not this one) when you hear a news of sexual harassment, it's turns out that it was not a big deal or the "victim" was just trying to get attention or earn some money out of it!
@@bidhankundu1 fr
@@bidhankundu1 Fake sexual harassment allegations are generally one of the least fake reported crimes. It is more likely that someone will fake an accusation of theft than sexual harassment.
@@bidhankundu1 aside perhaps from Depp vs Heard, whose allegations do you have in mind?
Who's a streamer, TH-camr or influencer who went from obscurity (or just good) to great after coming out of a SA allegation?
For those wondering about Sliker and wanna feel sorry for his addiction : **DON'T**
Not only was he given SEVERAL ways out of his debt, including a streamer Trainwrecks giving him $50k as a flat sum of cash to pay it off instead of lending him money. Sliker had the gall to come BACK to Train to ask for ANOTHER $50k.
To add to this, CoffeeZilla interviewed all the victims and the evidence has been insurmountable against him since he :
1. Repeatedly used ambiguous "personalised" videos and sent it to every victim claiming the same issue.
2. Used fake official documents and in one instance, used the same document for 2 different people.
3. Tried to scam 2 roommates separately, asking the girl 5k and the guy 1k. They only found out it was a scam when they shared their stories amongst each other.
DO NOT FEEL BAD FOR THIS GUY, HE IS A SCAMMER AND IS ONLY SAD HE GOT CAUGHT.
Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't he the guy that scammed thousands of dollar worth of Runescape gold and lost it by gambling it aswell?
@n30n true, victims are just dumb for lending money
He took money from a cancer patient claiming to be her friend
addiction is addiction. people would lie cheat and worse for a shot of a drug despite intention. saying dont feel bad for someone whos addicted to something because they do bad things to get it even though they wouldn't if they didn't have another way is the definition of the person to feel bad for.
@@bopqw1055 Drug addiction and Gambling addiction are entirely different things.
One can ruin your physiology, cause pain and sickness, damage your insides and cause death.
The other can be stopped mid way with 0 repercussions.
As I said, he was given MULTIPLE ways out. He could've consolidated the debt and told to a confidant like Trainwrecks to take it all on. He was given several HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS by people who were fine if they never saw that money ever again.
He went after a fucking CANCER PATIENT. Its not like he was dying or needed a fix. He just wanted more because he thought he could "win it big".
He had ways out, he was given ways out. He just didn't take em because scamming was easier than facing the reality that he's in a hole he dug to deep by his own hand rather than having a drug force him to do it.
He is only sorry and admitting to all of this because he was caught, not because he wants to change.
Thank you for taking the topic absolutely seriously and trying to put it all together with little to no bias towards any side. Clear cut 20 minutes of nothing be pure factual information, very well handled.
Unfortunately with how the internet works I am sure this isn't gonna anywhere and in probably a week or two all of this will be forgotten for something else. It's absolutely horrible and mortifying that it is this way but it's the bitter reality
Always felt these streamers were some of the most toxic personalities on the internet, the way they treated each other on streams never made me feel like they’re actually friends
You can hardly call them genuine human interactions, especially when their screaming matches and weirdo debates are being broadcasted to thousands of viewers.
That's why I just like to watch Ludwig, I think he is one of the few that aren't toxic. Especially hearing him talk about parasocial stuff and toxic viewers
@@Jasonbowgaming they don't want friends they want to be paid doing something that they consider fun. Twitch isn't discord. It wasn't made to make friends. I think you have the wrong mindset going into twitch.
@@branmo_mehe’s just as toxic as the rest of them
I have no problem with Miz sending Maya for damage control initially. That's what all organizations do. But Miz needed to follow it up by disciplining Slick inside the organization. Put him on leave, send him to training, whatever, don't just put him right back on streams. When Slick was shielded from all consequences, it sent the wrong message to everyone in the circle, and it sounds like that's what hurt Adrianah the most.
Also, the fact he still kept harassing girls and using Mizkif to be able to do so lol
Maya and Slick were never members of the OTK organization.
Both Slicks. They're not 'helping' them at all, what they did is just enabling their behaviors even more. I guess part of Mizkif personality is still Ice Poseidon
The issue is they where doing damage control for Slick. I get stressing about losing a friend and the organization and wanting to protect them but if it’s at the cost from sexual assault….that makes you complicit.
@@timeless1882 how did miz help slick send terrible dms to other girls
i feel like everyone is ignoring the fact that train knew the whole time but decided not to say anything else until it was to throw shade at someone else. there’s probably a lot of worse things streamers have done that other streamers know about but won’t say
Yeah my thoughts exactly. Streamers only want to air dirt out when it's benifitical to them. Train probably would of taken that to the day he died.
It is really not his place to air out the dirty laundry unless he was at that party. So I don’t blame him for sticking his nose into the situation, until it did come out.
Why do cameras need to be on for every single turn? I may be just "too old for this shit", but I feel like if any of this was truly serious, they would all handle it without everyone collectively profiting off of it.
Cause twitch is just high school 2.0
@@Milla4life2 More like elementary 2.0
They're all acting like children
@@CH-hn2rj facts 😂
Welcome to the industry, all of this is fake and theyre all just scum making quick bucks off HS drama
Huge big up to Liz for making this video, this was a very hard subject to tackle with lots of information from different sources on top, and she did it with a sensibility and precision that few others would have. Great job
She didn’t make it herself, y’all know there’s a team of writers and editors behind this channel right?
@@Rockthenashtah Written & Hosted by : Elisabeth Marchini
It's in the bio
Its really not. This drama is middle/high school shit.
And I thought German twitch is fucked up XD
@@CoffeeFresh_ it's sexual assault man, not some petty drama
It's scary how Novaruu got pushed under the bus for doing the right thing. Mizkif and his friends were able to successfully change the narrative to characterize her as a clout farmer and a drama queen for calling out CrazySlick. They must have been high off that power too because I just don't see how they thought it was a good idea to not only excommunicate Adrianah but also tell other people not to invite her to things, further harming her career for something they all know CrazySlick is guilty of. So corrupt.
Touching someone inappropriately and sexual assault are two different things don't mix them up he must have been out of control but that is it I am not trying to play this of as what he did was ok . It wasn't he did touch her without her consent while she was drunk but that is not criminal that is however a very bad inappropriate behavior and all she should be asking for is forgiveness from him
@@fannypack7705 those are literal the exact same thing, one just sounds better than the other. If you touch someone while they're drunk and can't consent, that does qualify as sexual assault
@@fannypack7705 Touching someone inappropiately can be defined in multiple ways, both can be the same. I can grab your hands and that could be inappropiate.
Sexual assault tells the severity. Touching someone's breast when she couldn't consent, then doing it again is not just touching someone inappropriately. That's sexual assault and inappropiate, as in groping/fondling and unwanted contact or touching.
You can literally Google the definition and how it falls. You can also try if you want to, go outside and touch someone's breast, if you think an apology is gonna save you from a police arresting you or someone beating you up.
@@fannypack7705 Are you fucking inbred? They're both the same thing.
This sounds like a professionally narrated high school drama/fight being put out to explain sides to the teachers and the principal.
They all sound like a bunch of children, how the world got so soft and clout chasing
Normally I'd say this would be swept under the rug, but this involves the top 15 streamers on the platform and about 10 of the are actually doing something illegal so
Right on the nail there bud
What’s the thing that’s illegal?
This seems like really good impartial coverage of the week as someone that doesn't keep up with twitch drama. Keep up the good work!!
I caught a few tidbits of this from livestreamfails (I don't watch any of the streamers involved), and said to myself, "I hope theScore makes a video on this so I don't have to dig through all of it."
the fact that emiru has been able to slip by and not be mentioned at all is wild
This is the most concise and detailed video covering this topic. Well done!
Lmao this week was actually the most eventful week in streaming history
The most important thing is
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I feel so bad for A....she needs to put the people on blast who she considered her close "friends" yet they chose popularity and clout over her. She has every right to be as vocal as she is, this is HER story and she should be able to raise hell about it.
Close friends? Who?
No sympathy for that thot, she's clout farming and lying through her teeth.
1. What crazyslick did was creepy and unacceptable.
2. Are we ignoring the fact that an UNDERAGED 19 YEAR OLD got so drunk at a party that they passed out???
How about some responsibility on the part of the people hosting the party?
Underaged lol. The 21 rule in America is pathetic.
@@abitofthisnthat might be pathetic but it’s a law we have to live with… he has a point the person that hosted the party had a 19 year old there and allowed her to get black out drunk…
@@TheIRedCraft she's 19, she's an adult, control your fuckin drinking. And secondly, if the law actually mattered, then we wouldn't have sexual abusers like Epstein an his elite cohort (including royalty and an ex president still running free) doing whatever they wanted. The law.. don't make me laugh.
Several things people should be questioning.
1) Underage drinking at a party where they kept her in the environment instead of taking her home, especially after the first time slick came in and acted creepy. Wtf were her friends thinking? Barry wtf you doing mate?
2) 99% of the anger is over hearsay. Mitch relayed info to Train who speaks with authority as if he was involved from the get go. Mitch is known as being an unreliable anyway who speaks shit about Hasan, yet one-sided DMs him on twitter for promotion, and talks shit about Mizkif while living in his house, swimming in his pool, living off of him. Adrianna was passed out and her friends previously downplayed what happened and then randomly change their mind later on? Barry also unreliable as fuck person.
3) Why would Barry, her friend, let her be gaslit and release a Twitlonger that downplayed it? Why would she have told Maya that she wants to "speak her truth" and then do the opposite. I believe that Adrianna's twitlonger account was the true story of the incident and that Slick was a creepy fuck, didn't do anything other than attempted petting and being a twat. Barry is very inconsistent as a friend right now. Also Adrianna cared more about keeping in with popular streamers that making Slick's creepiness better known and making it more serious. She downplayed it and seems to be more upset she didn't get more attention from the original twitlonger (backed up by a lot of statements where she complains "no one read it", "me and train have been leaking all this to get more attention on the story")
4) Adrianna would turn up to many Austin parties uninvited and was generally seen as a clout chaser. This is backed up by Minz, a few other anon streamers. Mitch also called her a clout chaser in the call and no-one reacted to this which suggests that this is generally how she is thought as. She's a 100 viewer streamer who, I believe, is desperate to be bigger naturally. Her obsession with being "in the call" was really evident of this, her consistent snapping about how no-one is listening to her etc. Take into consideration how everyone is saying chest and not breast as well. Creepy? Yes. Assault? Questionable.
5) Adrianna kept interacting positively with Miz and Maya after the incident. She would tweet them positively, go to their parties that she was invited to and enter their home. She seemingly kept in with them. So either she's a liar to try get popular for her career or lying know when it's good promo and helps train out.
6) Train made all this gambling drama about him when he was barely mentioned during the Slicker stuff. He made it about him and after getting tilted by the mention of well known scam Jolt coin, he threw Adrianna's assault story under the bus. Everything he knows about the story comes from Mitch who is seemingly struggle with his story and playing both sides of the friendship group even though Train records and publishes private conversations between him and Mitch where Mitch asks him to have his back multiple times.
TLDR: I think they're all scummy people. I think Maya seems the most sane out of all of them. Mizkip natually wanting to help his best mate who seemingly did nothing more than be creepy and Adrianna is milking this as much as possible while Train is taking this opportunity to attack Miz. Gross behaviour all around.
@@atheistium Judging by the tldr, i'm genuinly convinced you're just a mizkif viewer who got all of these questions from basement dwellers on LSF and are trying to sound intelligent by exposing adrianna for supposedly just clout-chasing and making everything up and pretending that maya and mizkif are angels who could never do any wrong. Maybe hide your biases a little better next time.
Hasan and Poki having to apologize for a normal reaction after hours bring gaslight is so weird XQC and Train really forgot on what they should focus on
They're about to lose millions of dollars from Twitch removing Stake gambling. They're doing whatever they can to avoid getting a real job
train and xQc didn't care, they just wanted to attack the people who said publicly Twitch should ban gambling streaming
Almost unbelievable how some of the biggest names on Twitch are getting their actions exposed.
“I’m not asking for forgiveness”
Yeah cuz you don’t care… 🤦🏻♂️
Why can't Twitch Streamers just be happy like the guy building a boat?
Here's an idea: Stop clout chasing and pursue legal action as needed.
If it's slander, press charges.
If it's true, press charges.
You can't just go on the internet and accuse someone of a crime. It doesn't work that way.
Sexual assault isn't funny, and every single person involved in this story should have taken the proper measures instead of taking it to social media.
I really wish it was as black and white as that. It's hard for either side to prove whether or not anything happened or if it's true or not. Worst case scenario is either the guy is punished for being innocent or the girl has to sit and watch her abuser walk away scot-free. We're always told that we have to believe woman when they tell their stories and I understand that as these things aren't ever going to come with any hard evidence most of the time plus statistics side with the fact that only 8% of rape accusations are false not including unsubstantiated accusations, but it still doesn't sit right with me that we could bar an innocent person because a girl may have been uncomfortable.
@@kiriacord3046 well most the facts of the matter are agreed upon by all parties, the only unknown is the internal’s of each Person’s mind.
Going to the police for this type of thing typically doesn’t help, simply because there is no evidence. No CCTV in the room, only direct witness is the victim etc.
If we are cynical then it could be fake, but consider that, if she is genuine, this is her only real option for any kind of justice. It’s not like she can go to slick and arrest him herself, you use the tools you have to make sure it doesn’t happen again.
Honestly, the true severity of what happened seems unclear. BUT, the apparent coverup is definitely unethical. REGARDLESS of intent, Adriana was hurt by the Actions, and, even if it was unintentional, what happened was NOT OK, period. What SHOULD have happened was actions to support Adriana and reprimand slick in some way, and also try and change slick’s future behaviour.
What DID happen appears to be a conscious plot to defend slick’s reputation regardless of the truth of the matter, regardless of the cost to Adriana, and regardless of the people slick may harass/assault after, which it seems he did.
That’s my take anyway. When someone is majorly upset, you don’t send the most politically-favourable person to change their mind, you HELP THEM. Basic human decency
only twitter brings justice u know nothing about attention seekers
The sanest comment on this video.
@Steve P
Clearly bro, you're ignorant on how a lot of these cases go. Legit cases like this go overshadowed because there isn't enough hard evidence. That's why a ton of actual rape cases don't get picked up because it's hard to prove without actual physical evidence of some kind. On top of that, there's clout chasers/assholes who FAKE RAPE on people and ruin it for EVERYONE, the victims of sexual harassment and the innocent that get caught up.
It's fucked up dude.
Mizkifs statement on the 20th more or less proves that he’s lying. “Proved he’s not the person we thought he was” until more came out and we found out you and all of OTK apparently knew and just waited till it blew up to address it. If anything Miz needs a permanent removal from the org after that. They knew this was going to be an issue at some point and have nobody to blame but themselves for the backlash involved at this point. Miz most of all.
otk just needs to not be an org at all. all of the people in it just seems like scumbags
The whole thing boils down to Mizkif milking all drama
I sound like a hypocrite because I didn't want to see drama stories on here but this was well put together and appreciate the effort rather than continuing to watch tons of vods
I literally just dealt with this almost exact situation where there were people i (sadly) built a community and a bunch of friends around, then found out the "main founder/owner" wouldn't and doesn't believe people's claims of SA and I completely have blocked them and refuse to be a part of anybody or any group that has this gross "cover-up" mentality and downplaying victims and empowering abusers.
Sorry just to clarify and add this: his reasoning was "because if he took someones word for everything he wouldn't have a community anymore".
@@PrismHeartOfficial I don't know the situation, but do you believe accusations per default? If there is proof, then sure. But just blindely believing is incredibly dangerous and will 100% lead to many, many, many people exploiting this.
this video was so informative and really helpful, thanks yall!
Why is Maya getting no blame for any of this…?
Its because her face is cute.
Cuz she is a woman , its as simple as that , when we talk about SA its only man who are the monsters in ppl eyes
Qt and Nick protecting her lmao
@@yololoyo7379 i had a lot of respect for qt since she always speaks up about situations like this one but now this happened and it's so disappointing :(((
@@antcatt_ I never really like her just because she's always self insert with so many dramas. She's not even helping or actually concerned. Only gaslighting shit
Respect for Jerma, erob, tyler1, and forsen for not participating in this dumpster fire of a drama.
Tyler1 is too terminally addicted to league to care about anything else. Same with most league streamers actually like trick2g.
Jerma is in another dimension from this. Truly sad he does not exist.
I think one of the hardest parts it is what she said about the attention, let's see if something happens or it is still discussed next week
Nobody would give a fuck and thats tge normal thing to do , ppl have fucking lifes to care about , why would anyone keep attention on something that happen evryday like any other crime , you think if a twitch streamer get cought selling drugs would be on the news for more then 2 weeks ?
Slicker was not using the money to pay off gambling debts. He was using the money to gamble some more to hopefully pay back to people he had previously borrowed money from to pay back the people he had previously borrowed money from, etc etc. Sure, you could argue that that makes the previous debt gambling debt, but instead of paying it back, he was actually just doing more gambling, convinced he could both pay people back and pay back the new loan with a bonus.
Thank you for explaining how we got from there to the SA cover up situation, though, because I was still somewhat hazy on that front. Good work on summarizing this big mess.
Maya getting a free pass shows that people are either not listening fully or not reading in between the lines.
If you watch the interview with mitch and his account, along with adrianha's interview with the group of streamers, you would hear how miz sent mitch and maya not to get the full story, but to do DAMAGE CONTROL.
Maya was responsible for gas lighting, downplaying and dismissing the assault whilst coercing Adrianha to do it herself. Then, in her words, they "agreed it wasn't an assault," proof read her post and then signed off on it. Adrianha and destiny both talk about the part she played and how she understood exactly what she was doing. "You should post anonymously for the sake of your career/you shouldn't post at all"?? Hello??? People can't be this dense. Emiru not saying anything about Miz orchestrating all of this also gives me bad vibes.
Other than Esfand and Bruce the Majority of OTK hasn't been streaming for the past week...Cowardly
it blows my mind how other women in OTK won't even talk about it like????
emiru did make a response but it was total fucking bullshit and she kept trying to make it seem like she was crying but not one tear came out of her eyes and she kept on making it about herself and mentioned the victim for like 30 seconds at most
she always gave me bad vibes
She did get sexually assaulted. There is no denying on that, but let everyone else remember that
A) Sexual assault does not imply rap*
B) Making someone uncomfortable is not s*xual assault (its not okay but still, it isnt)
C) Your friends can downplay the situation, its their opinion as long as they dont damage her person, but actively inciting the victim to NOT act on how they felt about it is just shitty behavour and not a friend to trust
It’s more important to not waste a year and then feel like the victim, if she was assaulted, call the police the next day and solve it, don’t trust anyone much less wait.
@@Troonielicious Lmao if only it was that easy huh? You’ll never understand until it happens to you
@@Troonielicious It's not that simple
@@Rockthenashtah i would understand cuz i'm not that dumb , if they assaulted me (not actuel rape cuz thats a diffrent thing ) , its ether i go to court or i fucking expose him the day after , after a year you should just stfu
@@iKnowAllo it really is that simple though.
Messi should have never moved to PSG, he fucked up the space time continuum and warped our reality into this bizarre version
Lmao
The most confusing part no one is talking about is how people actually liked CrazySlick... From every single account he's a creep and weirdo. Is he an oiler or something? Doesn't seem like he has any life experiences nor job nor income. Also Train only aired the dirt to help him feel powerful, he would of kept that info until the day he died if he wasn't prone to coked up anger outbursts.
I don’t get why if people want to throw out accusations and what not, why not get the police involved. It’s the simplest way to clear the air. If I was in either person involved I’d want to clear my name or prove what happened…
Thats because they are scared of destroying their careers if they cant back it up, its kind of sad really that things gmhave escalated to this point
No one talking about how she was underage drinking, and drinking to the point of passing out.
SlikeR And CrazySlick, The duo of the Decade...
Survivors need to make sure they actually report because too many don't and the perpetrators keep on keeping on
17:52 sadly thats just how the internet is. there is nothing you can do about people forgetting controversies because every week there is a new one
Wait so did assault take place or was he actually only checking for a pulse and people just view him as creepy now? I’m confused on what happend. If he creeped her and her friends out then they can find him creepy all they want but if he didn’t assault anyone then why is him and his friends on the defense from being cancelled? These are genuine questions for me, I don’t watch any streamer mentioned here so maybe there’s an element of understanding I’m lost on because I don’t know there personalities or something.
Slick really did it, it's already 100% confirmed, by Miz, by Maya, by Adriana, by everyone
He never touched her, she's clout farming. First rule of twitch: Thots lie.
This was perfectly written and presented, good job.
This is why I stay with the FGC
Huge drama and over reaction for almost nothing but drunk person touching other gender who's also drunk. Why so big deal, over no serious damage/abuse?
Not really talking about this specific situation, but I don't really like the term "sexual assault" because it has such a wide ranging meaning from being touched in unwanted place to being raped. It's not a light term to throw around so I think something serious like this should use specific term so everyone is on the same page when it is brought up. Rather than having to go into specifics like what exactly is the nature of the sexual assault.
This is literally the proper definition of sexual assault. Stop downplaying it because it makes u uncomfortable.
@@AmusingMusic How do you know it makes me uncomfortable? It makes me confused is more like what it is. Because when it's used, I have no idea if the victim is touched, groped, or raped. And throwing them under a single umbrella term is drawing false equivalency and downplays the severity of rape more than anything.
@@plutoburn We have a word for rape. It's rape. People usually just say rape but rape is a part of sexual assault. Not only that but victims, according to a study, prefer using sexual assault when reporting it or not calling it anything at all because it is less traumatizing and doesn't carry the same weight as the word rape. A lot of victims don't even recognize the actions as rape or even sexual assault.
Saying that the word sexual assault is downplaying rape because some people who are assaulted weren't assaulted enough is just vile.
Whilst sexual assault and rape are both physical, unlike sexual harassment, rape involves penetration. If the victim was touched in *inappropriate* places, it is sexual assault. If they were penetrated against their own volition, it is rape. People mistakenly conflate the two terms.
@@plutoburnsounds like it’s not a definition problem you just want the graphic details.
I love how all this drama just comes out of no where when Twitch it self as a platform is under a lot of heat. ?? kinda weird in my opinion
It isn't weird. It's just more likely for more controversy to come out when something is already in the spotlight.
Similar to the Harvey Weinstein case. These things come out of nowhere because how many people remain silent
twitch doesnt care, as long as ppl keep watching its keeps going
remove random crits
Amazing video ...more respect to u guys for making this 🎉
I know some people are afraid to report to authorities because of consequences and unnecessary headache but not reporting it and rather posting it online will just make it much worse, the victim might get justice but the assailant will have to live the rest of his life as an offender, and probably can’t live normally anymore. Not like I’m trying to sympathise with the assailant, my main point is social media is a DANGEROUS thing, the people on it are more deadly than you can imagine, words can encourage someone but it can also kill someone.
Me watching any Twitch controversy videos description be like
Let me explain the biggest Twitch controversy of all time
Thank you for making this video. It made a lot of things so much clearer for me.
Snakes are everywhere in Twitch(or everywhere in general), you just never know who's the snake and who's innocent...
Kinda weird how no one is talking about why someone underaged is drinking illegally and who provided the alcohol for a minor…I think that’s something worth noting imo.
Adrianna is clout farming. REAL victims go to the police, grifters go to Twitter.
honestly we all appreciate the people in thescore and liz for presenting this info,
like... i would imagine it must've felt kinda dark sifting through all of this info
hope the crew is healthy and well
jesus christ these streamers were FIENDING for a reason to burst out some drama for attention. im not saying sexual assault is ok. im not saying something did or did happen. but he touched her chest? do you know how often that happens to men? or worse? if he assaulted her, then fine. but i dont think thats what this was from everything that was said.
Finally, Everything that's been happening in less than a hour. Thank You!!!!!
All of this seems like bs. Just go to the police with your story and take it from there. Got twitch people playing true detective, nothing will get done this way IMO! Just take it and go open a case...
They wouldn't be able to farm content if they took it to the police
@@RandalReid Amen. Clout chasing and boosting their viewership is all this is about. Sheeple will watch this bs and throw money at them.
This is what we have the legal system for.. Instead of airing all this on stream like its a TV drama, perhaps make a police report if you feel there was assault. I am glad the facts are coming out, so we the viewers can choose who to stop watching and supporting, but this trend of drama and court of public opinion is toxic.
Narcissism at its finest, going through the courts would likely mean none of them can talk about what happened till after. She has witnesses to the dudes harassment and his confession but not pressing charges... personally I feel if it was really such a big deal to her and something she had been traumatized from before she would have gone the legal route. Doing it like this just feels like the continued ramping up of "drama" that these excuses for human beings need to stay relevant
I feel for Adrianah, but she's being taken advantage of again. She needs a certified advocate. She's gonna look back on this when Trainwreck shows his true colors and see how he's just doing what Miz did
Another saga of clout chasers doing their thing I see. Instead of being a normal human being and taking legal action for a crime, they livestream it for their audience. I can't take any of this seriously honestly, and while harassment shouldn't be tolerated this entire debacle sort of made that feel less important.
Everything's back to normal. maya and mizkif are bigger than ever. Sick world
People treat Miz worse than slick for trying to protect his organization which all companies do. He gets treated as if he was the creep and he did something to her.
Once Ice Poseidon's cameraman, ALWAYS Ice Poseidon's cameraman. These people are sick. His fans don't care as long as they laugh... Twitch is sick.
It seems like everyday there’s some new Twitch scandal or controversy. I don’t know if I should blame the company for letting all this happen or if a lot of streamers are asshole’s and narcissists, but that platform needs some serious restructuring.
I feel like every form of media has this. I'm glad that twitch is like this infact, because I'm sure hollywood has this stuff going on this background but atleast people can expose others on platforms like twitch. Also you cant restructure a platform to avoid creeps from wearing a sheep's clothing and entering
Each one of these people seem like a variation of The Worst Person Alive
Holy fuck how did i miss this video?
Seems like no one knows what actually happened to Adriana and Slik.. even Adriana. But she has to relive her trauma every day? and her friends never told her what Slik did until she did the Twitlonger? IDK.. I am sorry but this all seems like so much hearsay from her friends account of the night only. She only believes she is a victim because she was told so. There is just sooooo much hearsay it makes this messy. I hope this is all justified at the end of the day and does not trivialize future victims accounts in any way.
The very worst disgusting part is how they always repeat how "he was my best friend at the time" and its like...what are you talking about youre doing THIS WHOLE THING for views...period YOURE 19! why are you saying it like it would be 7 less!?. SHES 19 a grown up period.
Its months after the Depp trial and were back to this, she just suddenly changes her mind from oh "he didnt rape me or he didnt this and that I WAS BLACKED OUT" and then suddenly its "SHE HAD TO GUARD ME! I REMMEBR IT ALL NOOOOOW!" ....like weeks after she realized people are biting?! WHAT HE F is this!? This isn't drama...this is disgusting and pathetic. If this where even 1/100 truth...... THEY WOULD NOT TALK ABOUT IT ON TWITCH! Mae feminist twitch Bullshit. "he made me uncomfortable, after i lay ON A BED INCAPAPBLE OF REMEMEBRING ANYTHING....OOHH BUT this and that and NOW I MEMEBR!" What a load of...smh
twitch and these drama streamers are a nut house like literalyy
people blew it out of proportion...everybody wanna be victims for clout lol.
I don't watch Twitch but this reminds me of French reality TV.
The biggest collection of people I couldn't give a shit about. I miss twitch being about people playing games. This is like trashier reality tv
There are still a lot of people just playing games on Twitch and this whole drama actually affects a very small portion of the site. It's just the coverage and the people involved that make it seem like it's bigger than it actually represents the whole platform.
@@RandalReid even the people just playing games are talking about it though. I have never heard of 50% of the people involved in this before last week. its just wild that high school level drama gets a 30 min video of its own
@@RCmetal11 I doubt Twitch streamers from other countries gave this whole thing other than a cursory acknowledgement at best. Also, they maybe talking about it but they are not actively engaging in the drama. I'd argue the paycut Twitch is enforcing next year is a bigger issue for everyone especially up-and-coming streamers.
It gets a video because it's a culmination of separate issues snowballing since a week or so ago and it just kept coming which probably hasn't happened on Twitch for some time. The fact that a number of high profile streamers were involved is just icing on the cake.
The video description says something about world of warcraft and is categorized as video games 😅
The this kind of jumping down people's throats for the crime of existing
Guy: *Is worried about someone and checks their pulse* They even alive?
The whole of the fucking internet: That's not okay!
Guy the next time: *Doesn't bother because of how people reacted last time*
The whole of the fucking internet: YOU SHOULD HAVE DONE SOMETHING!
Oh man this is like some highschool musical drama
nice. thank you for covering and compiling all of this in 1 videos.
literally none of this has shit to do with esports
Honestly, the biggest lesson here is the idea that you should not curtail your ideas and feelings due to biases towards your “friends.” This is for everyone out there that needs the push to take that step forward. That step forward needs to be the full one and not half-assed. So please let’s actually learn from all these allegations that keep popping up and shout. Ignorance is no longer a valid excuse. You’d have to live under a rock to not at least run into one of these stories in the past 5 years. Sure I was 19 once and I wouldn’t say my decision making was the best. However, if you following all these twitch stars the least we can all do and promote is to learn from their mistakes. Call me a victim blamer all you want, you won’t catch me actively putting myself in these scenarios and if I did, you best believe I should take some responsibility. Be honest, say what you feel, don’t get black out drunk, and be prepared to kick bad “friends” to the curb. Y’all out here praying for an unrealistic, ideal world where instead we gotta prep ourselves for the world that will remain cruel and animalistic.
If I got black out drunk in public and I woke up to see my keys gone, car gone, and wallet to boot….do I blame the world for my decision? Woe is me? I don’t support robbery, but I put myself at a severe disadvantage and basically begged someone to do it. Not everyone you meet cares about you, they have their own wants and desires. Whether that be your body or your valuables. Gotta smarten up and grow up so you can spot red flags and deal with them. You can’t do that drunk.
'Destiny "somehow" got a hold of the leaked call.' No, as he stated in the stream trainwrecks leaked recordings of all 3 calls to him.
apart from horrible people doing horrible stuff, can we please try to denormalize passing out drunk at parties? this has nothing to do with the behavior of horrible people (they will be horrible regardless) but I believe all of us men and women should discourage everyone from uncontrolled drinking.
Maya saves animals no way she would protect a friend over sexual assault allegations right?
This sounds like people in their twenties and some possibly in their thirties acting like 16 year old highschoolers.
Traditional morality wouldn't have these problems.
Well presented!
and I'm not sure if someone's snoring in the background tho
Basically American teens being American teens.
other than the fact that Sexual Assault was commited, all i see is clout chasers trying to act like theyre in an Ace Attorney game.
Just bring this to court jeez.
Slick's lucky he isn't in jail... thank you for this. FINALLY, I understand everything that's going on.
I feel like everybody including Adriana is using this situation for clout
thank you for recapping the situation,
So he was creepy… now what ?
"he said what slick did was unexcusable and thats true because he made someone feel uncomfortable even it was not his intention"
very intresting what that girl defines as unexcusable
Ah yes one more for the drama farmers
(Un) Funny thing is, a number of streamers are riding the coattails of all these drama
Maya is going to be the pigeon lady.
Flirting with a 19 year old woman… oh nooooo!! How horrendous !! 😂. The age where it’s considered normal for a woman to be flirted with keeps raising higher and higher. It’s not because it’s actually weird to flirt with someone who’s over the age of 18 but because women yearn to be victimised. I haven’t watched any further than 1 minute this is just addressing that first point.
Crazy how maya has slipped by without any hate.
Woman right ,
I dont think she did, but people go much more easier on her, even tho people should be harder on her because she is the one that interacted with adrianah more and had stronger influence over the whole twitlonger and the other shit. But yeah, her being a woman makes people think that she 100% relates to the situation and wouldnt be capable of doing shit like that
maya was asking adrianna if it was really sa was probably because sa is an extremelly serious thing that will ruin some ones career and especially her bestfriends career, so no shit she would repeatedly ask her if it was really sa