How K-Pop Makes Money

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 31 ส.ค. 2022
  • Original Video: • The Economics of K-Pop
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  • @vervvain
    @vervvain ปีที่แล้ว +812

    Ive spent hundreds of dollars on kpop albums simply because of the packaging and “collectible” nature of them, I think I’ve only ever physically used one of them because it’s just easier to stream the music. The whole appeal of the physical albums though is pretty much entirely the collection factor

    • @BrokenNoah
      @BrokenNoah ปีที่แล้ว +21

      I used to during the late 2nd and early 3rd generation but managed to step back...and just spend my money on Steam sales for games that I barely play at all :D

    • @azmilog
      @azmilog ปีที่แล้ว +11

      definitely try it out! i listen to my favourite kpop albums nowadays with the cd in my player while flipping through the photo book. the way it's meant to be enjoyed i think! so many people just let their albums sit on their shelves once they've gotten their photocard lol

    • @vervvain
      @vervvain ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@azmilog true 😭 i feel bad for just letting them sit on display, like you said they are meant to be played the old fashioned way

    • @charlesbanks67
      @charlesbanks67 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      you’ve been had

    • @analysis726
      @analysis726 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      me with vinyls

  • @koda4247
    @koda4247 ปีที่แล้ว +109

    "fuck the system buy frosted flakes" that's a fuckin hit big A

  • @cadestockman5731
    @cadestockman5731 ปีที่แล้ว +311

    To all the people who collect kpop albums, you guys should give them stats and attacks and maybe make a card based game around them

    • @user-ut4tk4ph5z
      @user-ut4tk4ph5z ปีที่แล้ว +37

      @preston
      Isnt every card game??????

    • @albingrahn5576
      @albingrahn5576 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @preston doesn't have to be, if there is a max deck size then after you have that amount you don't really get a competetive advantage for buying more (assuming you buy all your albums based on the stats alone with no regard for the music)

  • @finnlinnsone
    @finnlinnsone ปีที่แล้ว +444

    I'd like to add that the reason physical sales are high in Japan isn't only because of K-pop, and special albums with inclusions and photocards are originally a Japanese concept that K-pop adopted. J-pop has had special albums with inclusions such as photocards way prior to K-pop.
    Girls' Generation was the first Korean group that started adding inclusions (the photocard) to physical albums, which was a concept they started doing initially to attempt to enter the Japanese market since extra inclusions and special editions were standard there, and thanks to Girls' Generation additional inclusions to K-pop albums are now standard in the industry.
    (For anyone curious, I'm referring to the Girls' Generation album called 'Oh!')

    • @piplupinabasket9035
      @piplupinabasket9035 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Sones rise up 🙌🏻

    • @finnlinnsone
      @finnlinnsone ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@piplupinabasket9035 you know it

    • @vv1850
      @vv1850 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think physical sales of media in general are higher in Japan. My only reference is that in Japan buying physical games have higher sales compared to Western countries that prefer to download their games rather than having physical cartridges.

    • @amazin7006
      @amazin7006 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah this has been a big thing in Japan for years. Most anime actually broadcasts at a loss and only make money back from OST and bluray sales.

    • @finnlinnsone
      @finnlinnsone ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@michaeldubery3593 I was always more into Show Show Show and their Japanese releases, but Oh is certainly legendary

  • @BigOwl51
    @BigOwl51 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    Psy is a rare example of someone who was able to rise above the predatory k pop industry
    1. We may only know him for Gangnam style, but over in Korea he’s basically a legend. Think Pitbull or snoop dogg but for Korea.
    2. He’s in his 40s. That’s not very old but in the Korean music industry it’s unheard of for someone of that age to remain popular.
    3. He’s independent. He used to be signed to YG but after his contract was up he decided not to renegotiate and instead started his own record label, PNation. They’ve already signed several boy bands and solo acts and are the biggest independent k pop label outside big 4.
    All this is very cool for Psy, and it’ll most likely happen to the members of BTS as well when they’re older, but it is still EXTREMELY rare for artists in Korea to see such long term, continuous success like Psy has.

    • @YJ-eq3gd
      @YJ-eq3gd ปีที่แล้ว +2

      he isn't from the kpop industry he been releasing his own mixtapes he aint an idol lol

    • @HennyZX
      @HennyZX ปีที่แล้ว

      @@YJ-eq3gd yeah facts where tf is the op getting this info from lmao there are plenty of artists popular for a very long time, just not in the pop industry

    • @bowserfromsonic5108
      @bowserfromsonic5108 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Pee Nation

    • @SahiPie
      @SahiPie ปีที่แล้ว

      Man it’s crazy to see people say “Big 4” now instead of 3.

  • @awaspow
    @awaspow ปีที่แล้ว +373

    Japan also has a lot of city pop that literally won’t be allowed on spotify or youtube that is goated
    I know a lot of people that have to order music from Japan

    • @JojoDigitalArtist
      @JojoDigitalArtist ปีที่แล้ว +49

      There was that weird bit of time were Japanes Record companies refusssssed to let their music play outside of Japan on youtube and it made me lose interest in it and I jumped onto Kpop cause of it. Seems they've realized this mistake though llol!

    • @angulinhiduje6093
      @angulinhiduje6093 ปีที่แล้ว

      Q⁰

    • @littlehats71
      @littlehats71 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      For you is one of the best albums of all time and it’s not on Spotify :(

    • @ShinySwalot
      @ShinySwalot ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Just in general regionlock is also a massive thing on Spotify, I remember seeing bands like Stereopony on there but not playable... until one day it just randomly became lol, it also came on YT music

    • @skechers8223
      @skechers8223 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@littlehats71 how do you even listen to or discover music like that?

  • @Lwsss933
    @Lwsss933 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    I might have missed something but the usage of the video clip on 7:37 might be slightly misleading.... that guy(Seung-ri) is making a public apology in relation to the Burning Sun scandal. The video is talking about how much kpop idols are suffering, making us feel sorry, while showing a guy who literally encouraged women getting drugged and raped in a club owned by him...

    • @gaara12363
      @gaara12363 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Also the whole “this is what a kpop idols daily schedule looks like” section is a bit… like obviously the video creator can’t know that did they just guess? Lol

    • @HotCrossJuns
      @HotCrossJuns ปีที่แล้ว +30

      @@gaara12363 I don't know exactly what research the creator of the video did, but it's not hard to find leaked schedules from kpop management companies. There's also thousands of former idols/trainees who have talked about their schedules on interviews

  • @ChessSocialism
    @ChessSocialism ปีที่แล้ว +37

    “Fuck the system!!! Buy Frosted Flakes!!!!”
    -
    ATRI-ROCK

    • @jacksonbruns9429
      @jacksonbruns9429 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Goat commenter

    • @EpicGamer-lr4vz
      @EpicGamer-lr4vz ปีที่แล้ว

      ATRI-ROCK is an industry plant, no? Heard his dad is some military guy doing propaganda for the army.

  • @Oceanatornowk
    @Oceanatornowk ปีที่แล้ว +191

    Not totally related but it’s related to the first bit of the video: Japan is super behind in regards to tech. They’ve been using faxes extremely commonly until recently. Even smartphones took a long time to become common.

    • @yajaman
      @yajaman ปีที่แล้ว +24

      That doesn’t mean they’re behind on tech. Fax machines are a perfectly good way of sending information that needs to be physically stored and smartphones aren’t needed if all you use your phone for is texting and making calls.

    • @captainsuckbutt3917
      @captainsuckbutt3917 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It’s a policy // government // lobbying thing rather than strictly “they don’t have the technology”
      I guarantee you Japan is still more technologically advanced than shithole los angles or even worse, one of the Hick field states.

    • @zebragoboom
      @zebragoboom ปีที่แล้ว +61

      @@yajaman they're slow and inconvenient. the internet can do it better.

    • @ironized
      @ironized ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@zebragoboom there are security and privacy issues with emails.
      A lot of the western world still used faxes until very recently.

    • @flarglfump9915
      @flarglfump9915 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I work at a public university in the US and we still use Fax machines for transferring official documents. Most forms which used to require faxing now have a digital alternative but fax machines are certainly not so archaic that they serve no purpose anymore.

  • @exzacklygaming
    @exzacklygaming ปีที่แล้ว +67

    Big A talking about Big K! Hope everyone has a great day!

    • @sconie4335
      @sconie4335 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      shiiii when’s the mixtape coming out?

    • @exzacklygaming
      @exzacklygaming ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@sconie4335 🤣 I had to go for the rhyme once I saw it.

    • @quasar2880
      @quasar2880 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      bars

  • @humanzbornfresh
    @humanzbornfresh ปีที่แล้ว +38

    I don’t see how many people in the comments talking about how insanely dystopian the recruitment and training processes for these manufactured pop stars is.

    • @EpicGamer-lr4vz
      @EpicGamer-lr4vz ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Their process do be kinda sussy 🤔

    • @esmeecampbell7396
      @esmeecampbell7396 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If they want to go the whole hog with the dystopian theme I'll help them get the birth rate up if they give me a few minutes with the chick at 7:29 🤣

    • @foodfood9003
      @foodfood9003 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@esmeecampbell7396 jesus christ your so fuckign savage and cold!!🥶

    • @EpicGamer-lr4vz
      @EpicGamer-lr4vz ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@esmeecampbell7396 You getting a little too comfy in the comment section.

    • @gwen6622
      @gwen6622 ปีที่แล้ว

      it was massively overexaggerated in this video

  • @behindbigm
    @behindbigm ปีที่แล้ว +148

    The K-pop market in Japan and Korea is actually really clever. My sister is from Colombia and hunts for these collectible CDs she never plays

    • @imscaryskeleton5446
      @imscaryskeleton5446 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@bluewuppo same, vinyl is awesome

    • @jizzwizard4077
      @jizzwizard4077 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@bluewuppo The kpop industry doesn't want you to know this but it's because CDs do not degrade like records, and have no points of failure like hard disk storage. Kpop Idols want to have eternal legacies, and while your streamed and downloaded music fails you, these kpop fanatics will be blasting their ears out with their laser discs. And then we'll be see whos laughing...

    • @kazuha5241
      @kazuha5241 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@bluewuppo The kpop CD's i know usually come in a book full of photos of the group and photo cards of them, etc . Fans eat that stuff up.

    • @SubparLoki
      @SubparLoki ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Blue Wuppo I kinda agree but also vinyl for us is like cds over there. A big part of why I buy is for the cool record sleeve and maybe some exclusive blurbs about the album. And it’s cool to have a rate that people can flip through that shows your music taste. And I may buy something where I’d normally just stream it and I don’t usually listen to that artist (e.x. Black pumas) but the vinyl experience just fits with that album. That’s also why I have RHCP, milky chance, and black keys cds. Sure I already have the vinyl and can stream them, but it just feels nostalgic and cool to listen to Californiacation front to back while driving down a desert highway in my old subie outback while the sun sets. That 90’s and 00’s vibe is great. And yeah there (I assume based on the vid too) that peole will buy cds to display. There are also a lot more pieces of old 90’s and 2000’s tech in other parts of the world, especially japan, Latin America, and parts of the E.U. And can you take your vinyl in a car? Not easily, and cds still give you the cool feel of physical media. While yes, I agree that vinyl is superior, I still think cds are cool and have their place.

    • @albingrahn5576
      @albingrahn5576 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bluewuppo i agree on a personal level, but logically it's the exact same reasoning but for a different generation. in a couple of decades maybe someone would argue that streaming on spotify the "old school" way is cooler and more nostalgic compared to the more modern way of forcing the music right into your brain through an implanted chip, and then we'll have the (now old) kpop generation arguing that if you want to listen to music through an older medium then you should listen to cd's, because streaming on spotify is so... blegh.

  • @azmilog
    @azmilog ปีที่แล้ว +50

    i hope physical albums always stay around! playing music on vinyl, cds, cassettes, or even a dedicated music player feels a lot more deliberate and i enjoy all the music i listen to physically a lot more. the experience of playing a record will never compare to tapping your screen on a streaming service on your phone.

    • @GlobeStan
      @GlobeStan ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What do you play your CDs through? I only play them in the car because I feel like the sound quality's gonna suck if I play it through a random portable CD player or an old radio.

    • @azmilog
      @azmilog ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@GlobeStan my alarm clock has a cd player on it it's not the best but it gets the job done

    • @hazel9824
      @hazel9824 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      in a way i miss listening one cd in my car for weeks before switching to another

  • @FantasKanal
    @FantasKanal ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Meanwhile in Metal:
    Me: Dude i found this nice Band
    Friend: Damn they are good
    Me: Yeah, we 2 are 15% of the Fanbase
    Friend: Sweet
    *Band releases album, jumps to 300 Monthly listeners*
    Friend: Sellouts.
    Me: Totally.

  • @bonkerschungles7312
    @bonkerschungles7312 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    The only K-Pop I listen to is S3K-Pop

  • @byrontheusurper6505
    @byrontheusurper6505 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I accually just saw a movie that was partially about this old music store in Japan going out of Business.

  • @Roman-yv7mf
    @Roman-yv7mf ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Now how will atrioc dip his sausages into this honey pot..

  • @Rocknoob49
    @Rocknoob49 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Commercialised concerts is such a wild concept.
    The closest I experienced to it was Rammstein. It's obviously way different, but the whole thing was so immaculately directed.
    I saw them twice, and both concerts were almost identical (besides the new tracks)
    It was also the first concert i've ever seen that had credits running on a screen after the show. Not like the band, the managers and maybe some technicians, no it was a huge production with hundreds of names.

  • @wyattbailey1813
    @wyattbailey1813 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    I LOVE THE ECONOMICS OF KOREAN POP

    • @chillaxTF
      @chillaxTF ปีที่แล้ว +9

      NO WAY DUDE BIG A JUST UPLOADED A VIDEO ABOUT THAT EXACT TOPIC HOLY SHIIIIIIITTTTTT

    • @albingrahn5576
      @albingrahn5576 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      LOOKING AT THE SOCIOPOLITICAL ASPECTS OF KOREAN POP GIVES ME NEW PERSPECTIVE, AND DEEPENS MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE WORLD

  • @Zengane
    @Zengane ปีที่แล้ว

    physical media for music has been a thing for die hard fans, there's nothing better than owning a vinyl of your favorite album, makes for an amazing display piece, hence why discogs and bandcamp are still a thing, I think they're growing too

  • @emmae1768
    @emmae1768 ปีที่แล้ว

    When I went to Japan we costed this hugeeee music store building in Tokyo it had like 12 floors for different genres

  • @Lego_Ace
    @Lego_Ace ปีที่แล้ว

    I work in the Merch business and have sold k-pop vinyls and cd-s. it is a very big monopoly with what is put along with the cd or vinyl. Sometimes worth, but sometimes after the show the same album with the same things will be 50% cheeper then it was being sold at the show.

  • @namonai
    @namonai ปีที่แล้ว +2

    There's an article I saw recently that said the stteaming for despacito takes up as much energy as five african countries lol

  • @Souledex
    @Souledex ปีที่แล้ว +36

    If anyone is interested Polymatter has amazing videos about a lot of subjects, in the vein of Wendover but imo more broadly researched connections. Especially his two series on China, really gave me a different perspective on a their development in the near future. We think America's got water problems, like damn. Other recommendations are semiconductor logistics and environmental regulation.

    • @InfinityBassCannon
      @InfinityBassCannon ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I second this, polymatter is a great channel

    • @alexanderbateman5581
      @alexanderbateman5581 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Polymatter is proof that you can say whatever you want as long as you have good editing. A ton of their info is just wrong

    • @Souledex
      @Souledex ปีที่แล้ว

      @@alexanderbateman5581 like what? Ive taken a ton of classes on the subjects I think they are great at they just packaged the info better than my textbooks. It was accurate as far as I know, even sent them to my professors in the subject and they recommended them to the class.

    • @alexanderbateman5581
      @alexanderbateman5581 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Souledex A ton of his videos have decent information, but fall apart the moment he starts giving a single opinion or draw a conclusion. For example, he recently made a video about why "foreign aid doesn't work" to make the point that we should just give citizens of third world countries cash.

    • @Souledex
      @Souledex ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@alexanderbateman5581 that’s incredibly accurate and based on the last 30 years of experience. Microloans and microaid is massively more effective than larger debt trapping, or direct aid programs that go through or encourage the corruption of their institutions. I have a degree in international political economy, and did one of my capstone’s on that.
      I think you just assume’s he’s speculating but haven’t done any reading on this sort of thing.

  • @lucar6897
    @lucar6897 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video as always, but I enjoy when you cut the videos but more like you normally do, only including parts which you directly talk about. It makes it seem more like you are adding to the original video instead of just playing it with a bit of commentary in the background

  • @jinjinjinrou
    @jinjinjinrou ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Actually it's not the albums that are the one fetching the highest price but the Photo Cards instead. The albums are merely just a vessel.

  • @Dennyspuncakes
    @Dennyspuncakes ปีที่แล้ว

    I have soundtrack cds from games and movies that I love just as collector items. And I'm looking to get some for jpop artists I like too. The art books and other extra goodies are just so nice

  • @ari8936
    @ari8936 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    If anyone wants anymore information on Koop albums here you go,
    Kpop albums have collectible cards and tons of other merch inside as well. Buying and opening an album is similar to opening sport or Pokémon card packs, it just comes with a CD and a photo book. People buy all versions of one album (there’s typically 2-3 physical versions of a singular album with different packaging and a completely different concept) and then continue to buy or trade the photo cards in the album to complete their collection of a certain member or group. Each album goes for around $20-$30 usd not including the shipping, which is usually pretty pricey.
    on top of albums groups also have seasons greetings boxes they do which contain a themed calendar, photo cards and loads of other merch. These are usually $60.

  • @S1lvermoon
    @S1lvermoon ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I got roped into this k-pop collecting by my friend during internship and boy it’s expensive as fck and but one thing i learned you can earn 💰 even just as a third party seller and trader
    Just a mini album with 3-6 songs they will have 3 different cover versions then each version have photo cards wallpapers goodies per members of the group then each website selling them has their own exclusive photo card and goodies
    Either way if you’re thinking of collecting k-pop goodies prepare your wallets also better buy the goodies from c2c instead of b2c cause b2c is GACHA (though c2c has scammers all around so be careful)

  • @the8u9
    @the8u9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The main difference in the internal economics between K and J pop is that Kpop follows 3 phases and goes as far as it can with that, Cute - Mature - Sexy. Successful and popular groups make it to the end of the Mature phase when their "slave" contract ends. Groups deemed potential failures START at sexy. This is because sexy is the best chance they have before interest dwindles in them. So you'll see some groups come out with young and cute girls, which means the company believes in the longevity of their group, while some come out older and sexy which means they are much lower budget and have a narrow window to make it. Prime examples of groups that stayed a very long time in cute - mature would be Girl's Generation, Twice.
    For boy bands, the formula is very very different.
    Japan though, creates generational groups to maintain the BRAND that is a jpop group. The major ones like AKB48 will just graduate / let go of older members while inserting young new ones to keep the group feeling the same forever. Then there are others that go with a pedigree route where someone like Kyary Pamyu Pamyu can trace her roots backwards up through Perfume all the way to Capsule. Where a style or feel is maintained with each subsequent artist.

  • @belenb5625
    @belenb5625 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i think another added aspect to idols exploitation is how little legal protections they truly have, outlawing of 10 year contracts (infamously named slave contracts) was only until pretty recently, EXO, debuted in 2012, is the last remaining active group that has this contract, they are only starting renewal discussions now, which is insane, because lifetimes have passed since their debut to now considering all they’ve experienced. Not just lacking legal protection from their companies, but idol groups are heavily dependent on government sponsorship or support, without it, they will be pushed off to the side and never even allowed a chance on the smallest music shows to promote. Not to mention, the rampant stalking, selling of personal information, and harassment, most idols do not have any legal avenues as to pursue justice or to stop these things from happening. Considering all of these things, being an idol is genuinely difficult with the mental stress of knowing how little protections you may have, which is partially why I think when people suggest idols are soulless or entirely fake, there’s an element of truth and falsity to that statement. To really put up with this for as long as some idols do, they really have to love music and performing like they do, of course there are parts that will always be put on for the camera (their image, their style, some of their words), but I think it’s unfair to say that all idols are only in it for the money aspect.

  • @netboss9634
    @netboss9634 ปีที่แล้ว

    The way he talks about them getting trained and getting their youth thrown away reminds of when he was talking about starcraft players and getting put on a B team after training your whole life

  • @farmersam3011
    @farmersam3011 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The USA version of K-Pop CDs is Travis Scott including a digital copy of his album with every piece of merch sold to boost his sales numbers

  • @18SuperSam
    @18SuperSam ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’m not sure how popular it is overall but Chinese comics are getting pretty big I think. I’ve been reading Chinese martial arts comics for a while now and I guess they do a really good job of showing off the culture

  • @shafinc3581
    @shafinc3581 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Man how is no one talking about how riot is over working and exploiting KDA smh

  • @brendan8870
    @brendan8870 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    5:35 all jokes aside I would genuinely want Mo Bamba played at my eulogy

  • @Flopf07
    @Flopf07 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I hope nvidia sells the 4090 with a chance to meet Atrioc.

  • @Rachel-Pham
    @Rachel-Pham ปีที่แล้ว +2

    through gambling casinos only open for non-Korean citizens

  • @lukemicklos7650
    @lukemicklos7650 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    4:20 I feel like a fucking idiot for thinking that was real thing

  • @AveryBlueRemix
    @AveryBlueRemix ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Drinking game: Take a shot everytime Atrioc boosts himself up in his chair

  • @gumby5068
    @gumby5068 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lmao I’ve always wanted to know how modern music makes money with the nature of all music being essentially free nowadays. Haven’t watch yet but Pog vid excited!

  • @Starlite00
    @Starlite00 ปีที่แล้ว

    The greatest crossover between my interests ever

  • @char1194
    @char1194 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hearing that kpop is literally reverse engineered for widespread appeal is weird.
    Im someone who listens to every genre. Rock, metal, jazz, edm, country, folk, city pop, vocaloids, techno etc etc. But the one and only genre ive never been able to get into despite trying my damnest for years is kpop.
    But now that i think about it Im a huge fan of amateur covers where people just sing their heart out despite being less skilled. Maybe thats why I havent been able to connect to kpop?

    • @k4lternate
      @k4lternate ปีที่แล้ว

      i felt the same way as you for the longest time, but eventually i got into kpop because of songs that manage to integrate crossover sounds really well. stayc - so bad is a good example (kpop & drum and bass), but also loona - loonatic (has post-punk inspired guitar riffs in the background)

  • @chancellorally8766
    @chancellorally8766 ปีที่แล้ว

    I thought you used the same reaction image two times in a row, before I realized im just watching the vids out of order

  • @blackstonejimmy
    @blackstonejimmy ปีที่แล้ว

    People forget that the singer for Sex Pistols (one of the most influential punk bands ever) spent a number of years a while ago shilling butter in the UK

  • @noitsreal...itsreal
    @noitsreal...itsreal ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Our world is so wild lmao. Never would have guessed this shit is actually real

  • @ALEXANDANCE_OFFICIAL
    @ALEXANDANCE_OFFICIAL ปีที่แล้ว +9

    atrioc when are you making your kpop debut ?

    • @gm_21
      @gm_21 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      BTS secret member revealed?!👀

  • @mushishi3319
    @mushishi3319 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    eSports orgs need to step up their predatory contract game.

  • @EE-sw3uh
    @EE-sw3uh ปีที่แล้ว +2

    CD's Nuts

  • @mads2486
    @mads2486 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The industry really strips their idols of any opportunities after their career. Some idols don't even own their brand, so using their brand to try and get opportunities is practically impossible. One example of this: a girl called Kyla from the group PRISTIN. Apparently they were a relatively successful group as rookies. However, I assume that people online didn't like Kyla too much. So, she went on hiatus for " health reasons " but was spotted working at a carnival in LA only a year later.
    She belonged to the agency " Pledis Entertainment ". An agency with many very successful groups under it. One of them being SEVENTEEN, a very successful 13 member boy group. Pledis is an agency under HYBE: a company that also owns Bighit Entertainment, the one that manages BTS.

    • @gwen6622
      @gwen6622 ปีที่แล้ว

      well pledis wasnt under hybe at the time pristin disbanded, but yeah anyway pledis is a notoriously shit company

  • @anyrija.
    @anyrija. ปีที่แล้ว

    used to be a kpop stan, that shit was crazy

  • @cholocco2831
    @cholocco2831 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You know being a k-pop idol is stressful when Jihyo from Twice plays League of Legends as a way to relax…

  • @tag180rotax
    @tag180rotax ปีที่แล้ว

    10:20 dang, that's thaad

  • @oswk9
    @oswk9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Japan and a lot of East Asian countries from the sounds of it feels like the best position capitalism is in but that could just be the culture in certain cities like I doubt people in Northernmost japan are the ones marrying their ds

  • @johnbuster4268
    @johnbuster4268 ปีที่แล้ว

    That guy would be dead by monday if he didn’t add that last part

  • @cccant26
    @cccant26 ปีที่แล้ว

    Big A researching income possibilities for Nvidia live on stream

  • @Spacey1k
    @Spacey1k ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ok now this is poggers

  • @korosheht5446
    @korosheht5446 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm sure If atrioc was Korean and was in one of those classes he would grind hitman in his free five hours time

  • @jrdnanitsua
    @jrdnanitsua ปีที่แล้ว

    I feel like if a Toy had the same name it would make a very very nice sound, Yes Atrioc!

  • @Maddy-me5hz
    @Maddy-me5hz ปีที่แล้ว

    Need ads to make money now in music, since sales aren't there any more for most artists.

  • @hazel9824
    @hazel9824 ปีที่แล้ว

    to be fair as an American, i get suckered into buying hundreds of dollars worth of vinyls and 100gecs Balenciaga fashion magazines

  • @Gandhi_Physique
    @Gandhi_Physique ปีที่แล้ว

    I genuinely despise ads. I hate people trying to manipulate me. At the same time though, without them a lot of things wouldn't exist. So.. to balance it out, I need some entertaining ads at least. Not some horrible pun with overused music from 10 years ago.

  • @MellowMakings
    @MellowMakings ปีที่แล้ว

    0:08 Vending machines sell puppies now, in Japan!? Wha--

  • @XxSherlockianHeroxX
    @XxSherlockianHeroxX ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’m sorry. I just started the video, but did he say in Japan, you can get “puppies” from vending machines? Did I mis hear that?

  • @jacenelson4048
    @jacenelson4048 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another certified Branden “G. H.” Ewing classic from the glizmister himself

  • @indiii9498
    @indiii9498 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have around 80 kpop albums that I've spent about $1000 on. never listed to any of the cds but I love them n will keep collecting them. very fun collectables!

  • @joelstahr4487
    @joelstahr4487 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    New Nvidia marketing campaign: Each 3000 series graphics card bought gives you a chance to meet Big A

  • @0PE.
    @0PE. ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don’t know why there was a rant about Japan, over here we don’t listen to k-pop much or at least comparatively. I think the Philippines and Indonesia consume k-pop way more than we do

  • @bum-erdeneboldbaatar9586
    @bum-erdeneboldbaatar9586 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    There's definitely a large number of issues revolving around the KPOP industry on how exploitative it can be and the stress it puts the artists through, but I feel like a lot of the narrative surrounding it as dystopian etc is stupid. The job of an idol isn't to be a musician, it's to be a performer who sings and dances. I find it strange calling into question the authenticity and passion behind that compared to some garage band when mentioning 2 million people went out and auditioned to be an idol. I also think the usage of manufactured as people like to throw around is frankly rather loaded. Are the concepts and themes of each release a group makes decided upon by the agency? Yeah, but like that's also how every movie and show begins production in the industry. That's not even talking about how people mainly use it talking about the idols. Would you say an athlete is "manufactured" for training? Would you call an actor, dancer, singer, or musician "manufactured" if they study 4 years of it at college? I really don't think it's a coincidence that idols, of whom are all Asian, get labelled that way.

    • @nickygian
      @nickygian ปีที่แล้ว +7

      no, I disagree. wrong

    • @maxschmidt6020
      @maxschmidt6020 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@nickygian based reply lmao

    • @EbonMaster
      @EbonMaster ปีที่แล้ว +2

      like... yes people do call many of those other things manufactured, mass produced, artificial, etc (i mean look at marvel movies). They also said the same of western boy bands. Its relatively accurate to differing degrees in each case. It could be argued moreso with pop groups like kpop.

    • @taggerung_
      @taggerung_ ปีที่แล้ว +4

      interesting perspective, but i think the primary reason why "manufactured" is used (with its negative connotation) is because Kpop stars are purpose-trained from very early on in an almost machine-like way to serve the industry and ultimately generate a profit for the company. This differs from an actor who studies acting at college because no one is forcing that person to even become an actor after they complete their education, and its not as if there is a film studio thats pushing them in that direction in order to start using them as a cash cow for their movies.
      there are, i believe, actors who are "manufactured" in a similar way to kpop stars. they all start at a very young age and have an agency watching closely behind them in order to hopefully turn them into the next star. often times these kids are pushed into doing it by their parents, which is likely what also happens with kpop stars.

    • @bum-erdeneboldbaatar9586
      @bum-erdeneboldbaatar9586 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@taggerung_Are you under the impression that idol trainees get forced into becoming idols? The overwhelming majority of them don't even debut, and even if they get selected to, they can just choose not to debut. The most usual outcome of someone training to be an idol is just finishing out their trainee contract and then quitting. All you did was just rephrase the exact language I was talking about lmao. How is it machine-like the way they are trained?

  • @LunaMapping_KR
    @LunaMapping_KR ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This video's comment section is to basically see how much Kpop fans watch Big A

  • @user-xj7eu8ul5p
    @user-xj7eu8ul5p ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Remembering the chatter that said “So 2 Chinese?” when the video said that k-pop groups have at least 1 Chinese/Taiwanese member

  • @anthonydisanto1546
    @anthonydisanto1546 ปีที่แล้ว

    Psy has made over 250 million dollars from Gangnam Style and from that 250 million he only took 10 million for himself, 30 million for his family and the rest 200+ million goes to his management. It's crazy how they do things over there.

  • @Talesofmegblog
    @Talesofmegblog ปีที่แล้ว

    Punk not selling out, true. But you did get Johnny rotton (sex pistols) selling butter a few years back

  • @adampeterson9662
    @adampeterson9662 ปีที่แล้ว

    I will say, I doubt K-pop becomes a mainstream thing here. Like Big-A said, the bands are engineered to last around 7 years, and then they toss them aside to find other talent. A lot of mainstream artists in the US have been around for decades, ie: Taylor Swift, Ariana Grande, Kanye, or have been continuously making good music for years and years (Travis Scott, Eilish). Idk, it feels like with how quickly K-pop comes and goes, it’s more likely to have rapid successes with songs that are extremely popular for a bit, but overall never really catch traction, and still remain a niche

  • @maseman539
    @maseman539 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Atrioc “Glarketer, Coffee Cow” Ewing

  • @behindbigm
    @behindbigm ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Looking forward to Atrioc’s A-pop band with Stanz and lud

  • @lay-2356
    @lay-2356 ปีที่แล้ว

    oh the chaebols are stacked af at south korea

  • @northster1294
    @northster1294 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love jimin from bts

  • @fatguy9
    @fatguy9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Doesnt streaming make like 1 cent per million plays, cds were like $20 for 10 songs and only like 3 of the songs are good

  • @goldwaterloveisamixtape3052
    @goldwaterloveisamixtape3052 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would not have clicked on this video if I would have known that I would be watching a person that's watching the original video that got my attention in the firist place . Which is how K-pop makes money

  • @ethanjerauld5233
    @ethanjerauld5233 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Feels like atrioc is trying to learn about Japan and Korea so he can relate to lud better

    • @analysis726
      @analysis726 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      what does korea have to do with lud

  • @honeysweet4804
    @honeysweet4804 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    as a kpop stan yes

  • @LordDionysus
    @LordDionysus ปีที่แล้ว

    The idea of Corporate punk bands bein like “Fuck you I’ll sell out if I want to” sent me

  • @tombell2753
    @tombell2753 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh boy, now the reddit is going to be full of corporate parodies of punk songs. Hasbro's 'Blitzkrieg Bop-It!', coming soon to a marketing subreddit near you.

  • @schwartz_a1564
    @schwartz_a1564 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another tea toad classic

  • @kumbayajesus9450
    @kumbayajesus9450 ปีที่แล้ว

    knew i could rely on big A for k pop content

  • @brendan8870
    @brendan8870 ปีที่แล้ว

    If the US government crafted a music artist I think it would turn out exactly like DJ Khalid.

  • @skifzz1
    @skifzz1 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The economics of this ratio

  • @whyme4825
    @whyme4825 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    K-pop idols have incredibly strict lives. If they are even seen with the opposite sex their entire career can be torn apart.
    Just some other restrictions:
    No swearing.
    No mentioning or doing taboo like homosexuality.
    Extreme diets.
    Extreme working hours.
    Everything they post on social media is heavily monitored by their managers.
    No room for mistakes in stage performances. They must perform 101%. This one's scary. They follow a strict rule of “The show must go on!”. The idols won't stop performing regardless of their condition on stage. Some are feeling heavy or fever-ish, some are exhausted, some had multiple accidents, slipping, collapsing etc.

    • @gaara12363
      @gaara12363 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I feel like maybe that was the case 10 years ago but most things have improved a lot and continue to improve every year

    • @StarBoyBooya526
      @StarBoyBooya526 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      So slavery?

    • @kazuha5241
      @kazuha5241 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@gaara12363 yea, a lot of idols are allowed to go on mental breaks and hiatus

    • @Souledex
      @Souledex ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@StarBoyBooya526 Well they can quit whenever they want, but they'd lose their contract, livelihood, everything they trained for and the respect of their peers and parents. So it's just a slightly more obvious coercive profit motive than seeking a job when you have a college degree without universal basic income.

    • @HotCrossJuns
      @HotCrossJuns ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Souledex It's even worse than that. Most of the large kpop management companies force idols to retroactively pay off their own training and housing once they graduate. This means that during the early years of a kpop group's existence, the members are making significantly less than their actual salary because large portions of their pay go back to the company. Therefore, leaving early and breaching their contract means taking on all remaining unpaid debt.

  • @MrSpako13
    @MrSpako13 ปีที่แล้ว

    China is also starting to make some good Animes (well the storys but not the animation or voiceacting)

  • @ctonnation394
    @ctonnation394 ปีที่แล้ว

    We gotta put the Soul back in Seoul

  • @FansyBLK
    @FansyBLK ปีที่แล้ว

    I buy multiples of all the albums because Leetuek oppa would be disappointed if I didn't 💔

  • @ghettogrower3499
    @ghettogrower3499 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like that beard you got going.

  • @tanner6984
    @tanner6984 ปีที่แล้ว

    I lived in Japan for 2 years and I'm confused why we aren't talking about ramen or Japanese curry

  • @matthiasweber9554
    @matthiasweber9554 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    some would say Kpog

  • @sake7855
    @sake7855 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I mean the concert he went to was black pink. They are the most commercial group cause they barley even make music anymore they're just famouse people.

  • @bwahh
    @bwahh ปีที่แล้ว

    I like collecting vinyls I don’t like spending 70 dollars for a vinyl

  • @Mboogy
    @Mboogy ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love the fact that he simultaneously chews food, talks about Korea & continues playing the video at an important point, only to miss the entire premise of the video probably since he couldn't be bothered to push one button to go back 10 seconds...
    Big A moves honestly, Legendary stuff! 🤣

  • @ScradleyCS
    @ScradleyCS ปีที่แล้ว

    China has some really good movies.

  • @federico_pereira
    @federico_pereira ปีที่แล้ว

    2:50 rapidly aging? broa, you just age ones a year lmao