'I don't know how he does it. I could never do something like that.' Lemond on Indurain. Massive double meaning in those words. Lemond knew exactly what he was saying. Good for him.
Manbate05 : There is quite a large part of me that is somewhat jealous. I keep on meaning to take a week off each year take make the pilgrimage down to Mont Blanc, Alp d’uez or one of the other big Cols for when Le Tour passes through. The atmosphere must be immense !
@@frazerguest2864 You so have to do it Frazer...the whole experience is amazing,having watched it on TV three weeks and then to be there in person is electric,unreal,surreal....just do it my friend!!
Just look at Greg's smile when he says "I don't know how he does it, I could never do that." That's as close to an accusation of cheating that you could utter in the peloton at that (or any other) time. Greg knew damn well how he did it, as did the other riders.
@@jasrod2012 Oh, they all cheated (I was racing in Europe in 1998 when the Festina Affair broke out), but at least they were honest in their dishonesty. If you asked Greg or Miguel, or anyone else if they doped, they would say, "I have never tested positive." If you accused them of doping, they said "My test results speak for themselves." But with Lance, he said "What part of 'I have never used performance enacting drugs' did you not understand?" And if you accused Lance of using these drugs, you not only faced being sued by Lances's attorneys, you faced the possibility of being ordered to pay Lance big money for making that accusation. My issue with Lance is not that he cheated like everyone else, but that he was a psychopathic cheater, who went to great lengths to destroy anyone who did not thing worse than tell the truth about him.
@@jpguthrie6669 I agree.... pretty nasty character (both meanings of the word).... but he got his in the end.... I can't help but think about all the collateral damage though, all the riders who would have won a stage, or a jersey, etc... all the lives affected by his bullying, all those who were pushed out by his tactics......
No he was paranoid about what everybody else might have been taking - so he took more to be ahead of everybody. He then bullied his team mates into taking the stuff too. He then threatened and vilified anybody that even faintly dared to question it.
+Flad Mast .... you right. Indurain had Conconi and Armstrong the best Conconi student: Ferrari. Why not Indurain? he was and still is a very reserved person, few words, always prudent and respectful; but he's still a cheater & doper.
@@marioa-b5345 it's all out there. Everyone knows when EPO hit the peleton, guys that were barely top ten and even top 20 were now hitting the podium and winning.
I'm sure he had some previous choice words, but LOVE have Museeuw just tapped him on the shoulder and simply said, "Hey, hey, hey, just go STRAIGHT!" Pretty simple request!
I've wondered if Lance had a motor in his bike during "The Look". It's just too perfect. Lance knew he was about to unleash something unmatchable on Jan. Watch Lance's right fingers at 6:42. Is he pushing a button under his hoods?
I understand what you mean, I've being reading Tyler Hamlitions book the secret race and it explains the ins and out of how people had to dope just to keep up, but even some riders couldn't hack the fact about taking drugs. The EPO test first came about in 2002 i believe, long after it was widely used. They is bound to be a new drug we haven't heard of which will come about at some point, thats why all the Chinese are winning all these golds in my opinion, because of them being so far ahead.
Amen to that, what a gentleman. Knowledgeable, objective, funny and entertaining. He had the capacity to reach most viewers regardless of their level of familiarity to the sport. He loved cycling and it showed.I will miss his voice the next time the TDF rolls around and hoping there will be an appropriate tribute to him.
He wasn't satisfied with winning the Tour once, he had to be the all conquering yankee hero, all jutting jaw and arrogance - apparently the greatest rider of all. So why didn't he ride the classics? Because he'd have either been slaughtered or caught for doping. He couldn't risk riding a whole season because his doping would have been revealed. . Real cycling fans knew he was dopd to the gills right back in year 2000.
"Armstrong showed a strength that was physical and psychological". Gary forgot to add "chemical". One of the greatest cheats in history, and sanctimonious about it too.
Indurian is besting Lemond by 4 plus minutes in a 1992 TT. How did he do that??? I think we all know. At least everyone was juicing in Armstrong’s days.
Im not american, and I despised the armstrong years due to the boring dominance, and how overpowered team postal was. BUT everybody did it in that period. I dont take anything away from past champions
It looked like Museew was trying to pick a fight with Abdujaparov. Maybe not such a good idea. By the way, I don't think Armstrong and Indurain belong in a video of great moments in the Tour.
Either way lance is still a beast not only did he get away with doping for a long time he threatened people and when they told the truth he made their life a living hell. That's a genius right there. He brought everyone down with him.
Gary Imlach is a great presenter and anchorman for the ITV4 Tour de France coverage - BUT I'm boycotting ITV4 for their disgraceful and illogical decision to sack Phil Ligget and Paul Sherwen - the best cycling commentators ever. Will watch Eurosport in protest and urge anyone else able to, to do the same!
But it did .. hahaha Armstrong is the most doped (blood, epo etc etc) among his doping competitors becos he's has the most money, has the most support from his team and orgs ..
My word those cyclists in that first crash took a hell of a smashing..... can you imagine if a soccer player was even to take a hit half that hard it would literally kill him his whole family and every ancestor for the past 400 years. #toughbuggers
Lovely to hear the voice of the greatly missed Paul Sherwen. God rest his soul, sadly missed but not forgotten x
Completely agree, he made the tour de France
'I don't know how he does it. I could never do something like that.' Lemond on Indurain.
Massive double meaning in those words. Lemond knew exactly what he was saying. Good for him.
LeMond was a hero. He stood up to Lance and took a beating for it at the time. Now, who's laughing?
@@SinnerSince1962 Came to be seen as a great man I think, and so he should. He stood up to a cheat and a bully.
Oh man....The theme music with the squeeze box! I rode in front of the trainer to these VCR sets for years!!
Greg's face when he says "I don't know how he does it, I could never do that" ha
Think he's having a little dig there! Ha
5:12 - I'm sure Lemond knows exactly how Indurain 'does it'
Right?. Doped like the rest of them, but never mentioned in any of the discussions. Ridiculous.
It’s Monday 29th July 2019 at 21:30. Is anyone else suffering from post-Tour blues ?
Yes :D
Made it to wednesday,just coming down from the high of having been there on the Champs-Elysees all week end...dont think i can cope much longer!!!
Manbate05 : There is quite a large part of me that is somewhat jealous. I keep on meaning to take a week off each year take make the pilgrimage down to Mont Blanc, Alp d’uez or one of the other big Cols for when Le Tour passes through. The atmosphere must be immense !
@@frazerguest2864 You so have to do it Frazer...the whole experience is amazing,having watched it on TV three weeks and then to be there in person is electric,unreal,surreal....just do it my friend!!
2019 was so innocent.
Phil’s ligget summary coverage of 1988 tour is the best sports clip ever. If Oscar’s were given out he totally deserved one for that piece.
Djamolodine Abdujaparov - the most terrifying nine syllables in the history of cycling. LOL!
***** hahaa awesome
awesome comment
So much blood to his muscles he forgot to steer!
Doping ..the other riders had a protest about him ...as if all of them were clean anyway
Tashkent Terror.!
Whenever I hear that accordian I get so excited, roll on TDF 2012. Come on Bradley!
that opening jingle! i miss that
Just look at Greg's smile when he says "I don't know how he does it, I could never do that." That's as close to an accusation of cheating that you could utter in the peloton at that (or any other) time. Greg knew damn well how he did it, as did the other riders.
It's not like Lemond didn't use blood doping as they did in his era. He just never switched to EPO.
Are you saying that Indurain’s cheating was stronger than Greg’s. I wonder if Greg was ever given EPO after his hunting accident? hmmm?
@@jasrod2012 Oh, they all cheated (I was racing in Europe in 1998 when the Festina Affair broke out), but at least they were honest in their dishonesty. If you asked Greg or Miguel, or anyone else if they doped, they would say, "I have never tested positive." If you accused them of doping, they said "My test results speak for themselves." But with Lance, he said "What part of 'I have never used performance enacting drugs' did you not understand?" And if you accused Lance of using these drugs, you not only faced being sued by Lances's attorneys, you faced the possibility of being ordered to pay Lance big money for making that accusation. My issue with Lance is not that he cheated like everyone else, but that he was a psychopathic cheater, who went to great lengths to destroy anyone who did not thing worse than tell the truth about him.
@@jpguthrie6669 I agree.... pretty nasty character (both meanings of the word).... but he got his in the end....
I can't help but think about all the collateral damage though, all the riders who would have won a stage, or a jersey, etc... all the lives affected by his bullying, all those who were pushed out by his tactics......
@@jpguthrie6669 NO if you asked Greg if he doped, he would tell he didn't. He would never say "I never tested positive." He didn't have to.
I ❤❤❤❤❤ Le Tour de EPO!
He's a total hero
Their title music is one of the best in sport. Gets me PUMPED
No he was paranoid about what everybody else might have been taking - so he took more to be ahead of everybody. He then bullied his team mates into taking the stuff too. He then threatened and vilified anybody that even faintly dared to question it.
You hear the music and think YES
That intro music !
Nostalgia love it
Thanks for posting this!
Beautifully done commentary!
The look back by armstrong to ulrich was " are you full of drugs like me "
or, "do you have a motor in your bike like me?" Lance knew he had something unmatchable at that moment. Watch Lance's right fingers at 6:42
Agreed on all counts, though perhaps we should also stress that in in Sherwin and Boardman, Liggett and Imlach have the perfect sidekicks.
We can moan about Armstrong but the snorefest of the Indurain years never seems to come up. Like Lemond says "I don't know how he does it". HA!
+Flad Mast .... you right. Indurain had Conconi and Armstrong the best Conconi student: Ferrari.
Why not Indurain? he was and still is a very reserved person, few words, always prudent and respectful; but he's still a cheater & doper.
Always thought that Delgado was doping too
Well said Z.
Sick of people commenting on this without knowing a bean about it.
In addition ive watched this a few times in part because Gary Imlach has a way with words and is very funny
Great
Indurain.....the birth of the EPO era.
You got proof of that Holmes?
@@marioa-b5345 it's all out there. Everyone knows when EPO hit the peleton, guys that were barely top ten and even top 20 were now hitting the podium and winning.
Amstrong doped
As do most...
Thanks for uploading
Time for itv to do and updated version of this
Come on Greg, you know how Indurain did it...same as Lance.
I'm sure he had some previous choice words, but LOVE have Museeuw just tapped him on the shoulder and simply said, "Hey, hey, hey, just go STRAIGHT!" Pretty simple request!
I've wondered if Lance had a motor in his bike during "The Look". It's just too perfect. Lance knew he was about to unleash something unmatchable on Jan. Watch Lance's right fingers at 6:42. Is he pushing a button under his hoods?
Yeah I don't know how Indurain did it...lol
Oh he did, he was to diplomatic to say so
thanks for posting!
the mtb road gap was the best part!!!
Wow, Gary is looking young! xD
Boogerd winnen on La Plagne was for me the greathest!!
The terror was awesome :)
5:15 ... I'll tell you how he does it, Greg ... EPO ... you were better than he was and gave the world the greatest Tour in 1989, and Fignon too.
Come on bro, Greg doped too. They all have since at least the 1960’s. Uppers, downers, blood doping, PED’s...
I understand what you mean, I've being reading Tyler Hamlitions book the secret race and it explains the ins and out of how people had to dope just to keep up, but even some riders couldn't hack the fact about taking drugs. The EPO test first came about in 2002 i believe, long after it was widely used. They is bound to be a new drug we haven't heard of which will come about at some point, thats why all the Chinese are winning all these golds in my opinion, because of them being so far ahead.
well put, I thought the same thing when he said that...
Paul Sherwen....Passed 12/2/18....RIP
Amen to that, what a gentleman. Knowledgeable, objective, funny and entertaining. He had the capacity to reach most viewers regardless of their level of familiarity to the sport. He loved cycling and it showed.I will miss his voice the next time the TDF rolls around and hoping there will be an appropriate tribute to him.
soundtrack
deadly avenger- we took pelham
groove armada- paris
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massive attack-teardrop
+Nick Humphrey You might be missing U.N.K.L.E. - Chemistry
surprised by the stage with indurain at 4:45 - it looks like the guy he overtakes is drafting him, which i thought was banned in the TTs???
Armstrong does not belong in this list. This list is for men of honour.
Like indurain.... lol
Was Indurain clean when he simply demolished everyone else in those TTs? I think the answer is obvious...
the 1998 tour de france is the straw that broke the camels back
they don't need to if it finishes uphill
LeMond showing a bit of bitterness regarding Indurain
Armstrong's look was challenging the other teams to get better doctors.
'Chemistry' by UNKLE
He wasn't satisfied with winning the Tour once, he had to be the all conquering yankee hero, all jutting jaw and arrogance - apparently the greatest rider of all. So why didn't he ride the classics? Because he'd have either been slaughtered or caught for doping. He couldn't risk riding a whole season because his doping would have been revealed. .
Real cycling fans knew he was dopd to the gills right back in year 2000.
Girl! You should see the bike I got! It is amazing!!!! If you had a facebook I'd upload pictures to show you!
"Armstrong showed a strength that was physical and psychological". Gary forgot to add "chemical". One of the greatest cheats in history, and sanctimonious about it too.
Gary imlach would make a 7-7 game of football boring
whats the song at the start?
That was 1999 tour. You'll find it if you search tour de France 99 alpe d'uez.
You missed the sarcasm in Greggs voice then.
Because Indurain has been so adamant that Armstrong was innocent of doping surely casts huge doubt on his own achievements
tyler hamilton also doped
Indurain was the greatest, most badass of them all. He also looked like Judge Dredd which was great.
The "look" was EGO
3:15 Did he run over the green jersey guy?
Whats the name of the song at 0:05?
I have a feeling it might be a remix by Kraftwerk. not sure though
Indurian is besting Lemond by 4 plus minutes in a 1992 TT.
How did he do that???
I think we all know.
At least everyone was juicing in Armstrong’s days.
And before, way before.
If watched under ultraviolet light you could probably see contrails of PED vapors emanating from the peloton during final sprint.
el ben jonshon del ciclismo, sin esteroides no subia ni la cuesta del garaje
the tashkent terror was farken unstoppable. eastern european... to win was worth more than a broken neck.
Well we know now exactly how Armstrong did it, and let's face it, he wasn't alone.
Im not american, and I despised the armstrong years due to the boring dominance, and how overpowered team postal was. BUT everybody did it in that period. I dont take anything away from past champions
Armstrong obviously got his drugs boost on the climb.
@dezmundo1251 na im pretty sure thats nothing to do with going in for the kill :P
I wouldn't cause a missed start one of the "greatest" moments, but that's just me.
It is, but riders tend to push it as far as they can get away with if the race officials don't warn them!
@Resen88 massive attack- teardrop
The Tashkent terror champs elysees stage, where are the fans?
Can remember Robert Millar saying as he rode bye Abdu, " looked like he,d fallen out of a aeroplane". . Think he was a pigeon racer too!!! (Abdu)
These are not the tours greatest moments. They are the most notorious. Sad that they called this the greatest moments.
3:10 ouch!
theradarftw is right but not the last part about homeless guy
I agree with this though, many of these moments are certainly not positive.
It looked like Museew was trying to pick a fight with Abdujaparov. Maybe not such a good idea. By the way, I don't think Armstrong and Indurain belong in a video of great moments in the Tour.
Either way lance is still a beast not only did he get away with doping for a long time he threatened people and when they told the truth he made their life a living hell. That's a genius right there. He brought everyone down with him.
That's not a genius, that's a sociopath. Fuck Lance.
8:40 I just realized that nobody is using helmet.
Hi Lance.
Indurain ¨el extraterrestre¨
How did indurain get away with it, if it seems too good to be true, then with what we know now it is. He worked with conconi.
what was it, illness, tactics, i dont know. MAYBE DOPING
helmets weren't really used until 2002 reallyz
Gary Imlach is a great presenter and anchorman for the ITV4 Tour de France coverage - BUT I'm boycotting ITV4 for their disgraceful and illogical decision to sack Phil Ligget and Paul Sherwen - the best cycling commentators ever. Will watch Eurosport in protest and urge anyone else able to, to do the same!
I think it might have had to do with the fucking yanks bidding more.
Jejjer W They didn't sack them, they just didn't buy the commentary from the U.S like they usually do.
But it did .. hahaha
Armstrong is the most doped (blood, epo etc etc) among his doping competitors becos he's has the most money, has the most support from his team and orgs ..
not true, then it just becomes who has the best scientists, doctors & drugs.
@ 6:41 the quote
@Resen88 Massive Attack - Teardrop
My word those cyclists in that first crash took a hell of a smashing..... can you imagine if a soccer player was even to take a hit half that hard it would literally kill him his whole family and every ancestor for the past 400 years. #toughbuggers
Shame they're pretty much all dope and or mechanical cheats.
if he couldn't take his own bike across the line, how is that considered a finish? LOL
Pro tip... never look at your pedals.
I thought the greatest moments would be the crashes, the guy dressed as The Mask.
5:12 greg lemond's 2 cents
Introduced by "Lance Armstrong" ;-)