The Best Lance Armstrong Tour De France Documentary Nobody Has Ever Watched
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I was inspired to become a serious cyclist because of Lance. I have him to thank for being a fit, healthy 55 year old. Thanks for posting.
I was inspired to become a serious drug user because of Lance. Nobody ever suspects me because I look so clean cut & have such a great job. Thanks for posting.
@Ginja Ninjaaa were ALL junkies Ginja, be it cocaine or twinkies. just remember were here on this earth to create carbon dioxide for the aliens, nothing more.... treat others as YOU wish to be treated because karma never sleeps
Started riding a bike aged about 7 got a bit serious aged 19 barely been off a bike for 46 years could say I'm hooked - on adrenaline ha ha More to do with Sean Kelly and Stephen Roche than Lance -what a worker!
True
Lance ruined cycling form me. I never doped, cheated or lied when I raced. I can't understand why anybody would do that.
72 year old grandma and still knocking down 50-70 miles per day in the summer. I LOVE my bike!
89 year old here, I cycle 120 miles every day rain or shine.
Great work guys x
@@coolrig i am 100 next week and i ride 240 miles every day, i am from alaska btw
I’m 240 and next week I’m riding 100 miles to Alaska
I’m 52 , comfortably in my couch, this steak is juicy and soft.
It wasnt about the EPO Lance. It was about you. It was about how you tried to destroy people. It still is.
Ruined LeMond's relationship with Trek (Trek is at fault too).
For me, it was all the lying. Such a turd.
@@torontocitizen680295% of all professional athletes worldwide are doping. At least. Olympics, FIFA, everything. If you disagree you are naive or intellectually shorthanded
Cycling has never been the same since the days of Lance, Jan and Pantani. Yes they were all doping but man, what a time to have been a cycling fan!
I agree, I enjoyed the cancellara Boonen era too!
It's boring now they were all at it he was just the best in his day at what was going on
All fake
Well you know what sucked? Reading about their workouts in Bicycling magazine. With Chris Carmichael saying do this and do that, so we’re out there following the plan with our intervals and heart rate monitors, but they never told us about the blood doping, HGH, and EPO parts of the plan.
@@simondolega7373 They were not all in on it. Those who didn't want to be a part of it, were out of the game in a matter of a couple of seasons. Those who were willing to cheat, "succeded".
I bought this on DVD back in 2006 I think. One of my favourite documentaries. Overcoming was was another one I bought, the story of team CSC in 2004 and in my opinion the best overall TDF documentary there is.
Documentaries are excellent, thanks for sharing!
Thank you for the time you have spent sharing this great documentary 🐐
Awesome video mate
Haven't seen that in years. thanks for sharing
All these people here saying Lance was the best ever or he dint deserve the punishment because all others were doped as well. Ok, fair argument. But remember this. Besides the cycling and him lying about doping just as others did he also attacked people that were either investigating him or told truth about him doping. He used his lawyers and money to quit them, he used tactics like a politician trying to destroy his opponent. He made life hell for witnesses and people that were not on his side. Its like Bush saying if your not on my side your the enemy and we will destroy you. No other doping user has gone on this kind of level. When other cyclist did not want to dope in his team they were out. And on top of that they would be open for smear tactics if they said anything. He took doping to another level and comparing it with the other dopers its clear to see why this narcissistic guy was handled differently in this case.
What is another side to it is the fact the important people in the organisation of world wide cycling protecting him and took the money. Armstrong corrupted the whole system at that point and they were just as corrupt as him. Thats how the world works, the suits get off. Sickening. They are still in power at cycling.
By the way, Lance was only the best because of doping, without it and every else also he would be a day cyclist winning some rides but the mountains he would not do good.
Everyone covering for him because just because he is American. If this guy way from any other nation, he wouldn’t receive any praise and would be labelled a cheater by everyone
Thanks for posting
Yep, I DID enjoy this, thanks!
Lance Armstrong inspired me to ride in 2001 I'm still hooked at 57 2022
Same here, now 53
Dude was the best... comes back from cancer treatment.. then wins the tour 7 years straight.. I loved the tour when Lance was in charge... so exciting..imspired me to ride too.. 57 and i am on a cycle
Loved this.
Awesome video
This really was a great documentary. Thanks for posting DR!
Loved Bill Burr's stand up routine about Lance. "Our roided up guy beat your roided up guy" . If you haven't seen it, find it. Heard Lance liked it.
Which doesn't make but ok
He says our psychopath was better than your psychopath
Bill Burr is a comedian, and in this case he is totally wrong, and he probably knows it. Burr reads a lot. Tyler Hamilton and ALL OTHERS clearly said: It was NOT an even playing field.
A really HUGE part of Armstrong's tour wins were to have the best doping and to interrupt the doping of others. He did it to Telekom, to Phonak, to CSC etc.
The guy was called a psychopath in the FBI files.
My favourite was seeing George Carlin before he died and he literally walked on stage from behind the curtain and the first thing he said was "Fuck Lance Armstrong and his fuckin balls"
It wasn’t just that he cheated. He ruined the lives of anyone who tried exposing the truth. If his cheating wasn’t a big deal, why did he go after people?
Lance motivated my 50 year old butt to get out and ride off 30 lbs of fat. I even went to see Lance and Le Tour 2001. I'm still riding. Thanks Lance!
Thanks Durianrider.
46:54 After Lance races by Johan, you can hear him say, "WTF," at the river. I actually thought he was going to keep on riding, that would have been classic Lance!
classic lance is taking so much HGH he gave himself cancer.
@@tranzco1173it must be nice to live with your hands over your eyes. 99% of them were all doing it. But the media went after the guy at the top, of course. Then, they tell the small brains, like you, that it is only Lance Armstrong cheating and he ruined the sport! Must be nice to be a naive lemming.
He was still unbelievable. He did what he did but so did everyone else. He was the best. You can't take that work ethic away from he. He worked his ass off.
YES, The Addition of Super Performance factors ONLY made him more; a Superman, unbeatable; ie, had "The Experts" NOT finally figured out What he/they were accomplishing with their
super science; an amalgam of the premium knowledge, research and formulation designed to be subtle; he (Lance) would Still be Celebrated as the Greatest Athlete of 21st Century.
Putting aside how “Everyone else does it” is the excuse a 5 year old uses, if it wasn’t a big deal that he cheated, why did he go after and try to ruin the reputation or livelihood of anyone who tried exposing the truth?
Didn't Lance himself say the same thing when people asked what he was on?
Great documentary and commentary! Hope you're well!
Dope video
Hi there, thank you for the up load, always good to look back and watch lance and team and take on training to improve one owns cycling. thank you again.
The Man. Started riding my Trek Chromoly in 82’ and still riding my Madone today at 68.
Loved seeing the care they put into the riders' food bags at 10:15
Great video, about a great team and great riders
Why do I watch this video every couple months, never gets old
I like how you've watermarked a film that isn't your property and can be watched here and on various platforms, and a film that most genuine cycling fans have already seen. Great work.
Durian rider the narcissist would not even see a problem with that. He also thinks Lance Armstrong is a God. The only person a narcissist will worship is another narcissist
@@thelucieflower317 i stumbled across this by accident, is durianrider the weird banana diet guy? The name rings a bell.
@@ricardomoonbeam8530 yeah he is. He's a piece of work for sure. I used to follow him years ago. It's funny but I stumbled across this video by accident as well!!. I am currently reading David Walsh's book 'Seven Deadly Sins', and decided to look at some footage and came across this!!
Excellent documentary.
Nice work. This captures the members of the early U.S. Postal team in closeup conversations. The George Hincapie footage alone is worth the view. It also highlights the coaching process and documents the initial resistance to radios by the riders.
Crazy to se these guys race the Tour without helmets.
Lance Armstrong and a 2001 Passat TDI. It's like a superhero scandal origin story times two.
Love the page man. Great videos you do. Gotta visit Australia and tear up some roads!
Spot on
Lance brought a sense of magic that same way most super stars do when they step on the big stage. The world watched cycling when Lance was involved. I know he was doping. The winners or atleast the top 10 cyclist of that era were all caught using performance enhancing drugs yet he still won 7 straight, so u can’t discount team strategy, training, and skills. In my book he is still the best in the last 50 years
💯💯💯
The best cheat in the last 50 years.
Hey, He was very committed to winning, An Animated Animal, trained like no one else. The rest I feel it is what it was. Few years back I bought my first real racing bicycle in China 🇨🇳 2018 Trek SL 6 emonda with rim brakes. My Chinese friends help me get I was an English teacher in China, also riding with the Trek team from the Trek bicycle store. Was fun miss them today they were great people. Now I am in Orlando Florida brought the bicycle to USA 🇺🇸 ride all the time. Thank you 🙏
Peace Out ✌️
29:50 ....man I've got tears.
Push aside the negatives and enjoy this. This is awesome. Disappointment came years later, but inspiration wins out 100 to 1. Lance and co did great things. Well done Lance, well done.
"Inspiration wins out 100 to 1" The motto of Joseph Goebbels. No, what wins out every single time is reality, and the reality is that Armstrong was one of the biggest liars and cheats in history, despite being an incredible athlete. He personally betrayed every single honest athlete in his sport, and is lucky to get away with only half a castration.
They all used performance enhancing substances! It was the norm. Companies and the industry used him to profit billions and then dumped him!
@@georgiaguardian4696 a scape goat they hid behind that's the real disgusting thing
@@bepismestari6005 el único dopado es armstrong??? Ignorante o envidioso. Otra cosa, el comunismo es mejor que goebbels???? Que gentuza hay suelta.
@@bepismestari6005lol...get a clue...they were all the same. Lance just took the fall for everyone since he was at the top of the mountain.
I love the Tour. Such a fantastic event. Dope or no dope, this event is grueling and will take you to the edge
With no dope, a lot closer to the edge
Man, I still love Phil ligget, Paul Sherwen, and the glory days. How could you not love Pantani, Ullrich, and Armstrong! And they're all still trying to outdo the other teams in every way.
Sorry, but late 60s to early 80s where my h more diverse, competitive and interesting imo.
I even watched the ads with pleasure. That was awesome. Nice to see Victor Hugo representing Colombia.
Thanks for posting, this is so cool.
Absolutely loved the start of this doco. Especially when the coach says 3 meters of snow you can't ride and Lance says "who says" So inspiring! Makes me want to get back into cycling! Thanks for posting
He could do it because he was DOPING
"who says" 😅 usada says
Yeah, give me the same drugs and I bid I can climb mount everest in 4 hours fool
@@Saoco325 you truly are a moron.
The drugs, just made everything level......the actual TRAINING.....was the difference
@@Saoco325 bet
Great video! Lance Armstrong is a great inspiration i also had testicular cancer and lung cancer back in 2008 it's 2023 im still cancer free cycling every day im 48 years old and feel better than when I was 35 years old!
Thanx my friend, for the doco, making my day...
Long live Lance..Lol.
Get out and ride indeed.
Great vid BTW.
✌️❤️😁
that intro gets me every time - "there is no way you can ride" "who says that?"
Amazing that they could produce this film without ever watching it.
I love this documentary, I remember seeing it ages ago,and there is a longer version, good stuff all the way 👊👊👊
Really enjoyed this documentary thanks for posting 🙏
If your going to show someone elses work without permission you can have the decency to give the film makers credit.
Why do you care?
Agreed; pretty scummy to filch a lot of others peoples time, effort, work and edit their name and credits out making out it's a rare documentary and slapping their watermark/URL on it instead.
Shitty click-baiting and theft to answer Personal Accounts snide comment.
@@runninrebel1520 This is a documentary which has been widely available for many years; all that has been done is a cut and edit to remove the details of those who made it and are due the credit.
It's also had a Watermark/URL added on top of the documentary that does not belong there; which is leading people to a web store for someone not responsible for the content in the documentary.
Scamming and click baiting people for personal gain while not crediting those who made it.
I agree. Scumbag move. The movie is called a road to Paris.
@@runninrebel1520 morals?
Our doped up guy, beat your doped up guy. PERIOD !
Resident_Savage thats pretty much what this era (and the last several era's) boil down to! Why havent they just wiped the results of all races between early 90's up to 2010ish??? Why are a lot of the sports major administrators/governing bodies still the same? Surely if all this was allowed to happen 'on their watch' then it shows they are incapable of running the sport/the major events. It seems they all love a scapegoat.
Resident_Savage he is more doped up
trump sniffles too much, but nobody ever questions people who get small loans of 1 million dollars from their Dad
Resident_Savage He was never anywhere near the best or most talented rider, he just had the most money and the best doing programme. And let’s not forget, his cancer survival story was great to report. All that went to his head and he was a narcissistic wanker, bullied a lot of people and cut many careers short.
Exactly, everyone is taking something. Some things they say are illegal but others not. He didn't do anything wrong, in fact he had more natural performance then the other before and after "doping", everyone else was taking about the same things, but he has something more genetically.
Bottom line, he turned pro as a tri athlete at 15. His Vo2 max was one of the highest ever recorded. Everyone was on EPO and had a hema of about 47 to 50. He was a hyper competitor and a type A personality. He would have wone even if everyone was natural. He was a gifted endurance freak who could suffer. Was he an A hole? For sure, but he had to fall from grace to become a better human, I think he has made tremendous strides. I think he has put the monster in the corner and has learned a lot about humanity.
Good Comment.
Bottom line...he cheated
@@serinagaleong3781 So did everyone else in the top 10 Tour finishers for like the last 30 years. What's your point?
if he would have won if he didn't dope, then why did he dope. He bullied those who WERE clean (Simeoni). Many riders spoke out against doping and they were ostracized.
@@serinagaleong3781 is it cheating if everyone is doing it? I know what your answer will be but cyclists have been doping for 100 years. I would feel differently if it were just Lance. It was literally EVERYONE.
Watched on TV each day of the race,got home from work & watched again.
Best of Cycling! Thx. you, lG Fleder.
I've seen this before. seems like the watermark is used incorrectly.
Just started watching, I can tell this documentary is going to be dope!
😂😂😂
That was awesome
Nice one
The Italian hand signal at 12:10 is too good
He wasn't Italian. That was the Credit Agricole team (French).
I launched Armstrong The Unmatched .. whatever is said about him ... determined runner 🚴🚴🚴🚴... the best runner in many years .. nobody did what he did in cycling .. excellent runner 🚴🚴🚴
No, just a cheating sob.
I watched this on repeat everyday when it came out.
Good video
'Who says that ?' Classic
coke does
Lance is the man!!!!!
This doc was dope. Roid up there with the best of em 🤙
I see what you did there. Clever.
Great docu. And nice to see and hear Phil Ligget and Paul Sherwen (R.I.P).
awesome!
Lance also campaigned for bike lanes across America. It was his passion project.
Excellent Footage and Peek into the Lives of Pro Cyclists. Dream Team. Lance Great Allround Cyclist - Champ in my Eyes, Always.
I remember when this first came out. I still have this on video tape.
Haven't watched DR in a bit ...but this vid popped up ...I actually have seen it or all the footage at least ...seemed like the same edit...I rented it at a specialty video store here in Seattle Wa. USA ...but I'll say I like DR he motivates me and entertains so I'm subscribing...cheers all
Lance Armstrong was and is still a beast! Those who hate are just liars to themselves.
What “Bull Exhaust”. A practiced serial liar.
Liars to themselves... about what? He may be a beast, who give a #. A role model for your kids? Hardly. You're amusing
Yep forgave him long ago
I have the most love and respect for Lance. None of us, at the time, understood the depth of the Doping that was going on within nearly all the top professional teams. I understand, now, the mentality of having to dope to win against the other dopers. My older eyes have a different perspective now. I'm no longer the blind faith ingenue that looked up to his hero and was so upset when the scandal broke. Lance did what he did. I have regained my respect and admiration for Lance Armstrong.
Thank you for uploading this. Lance 👍💪🏼
I came here to watch a doc that nobody had ever seen....then i saw all the comments....it had been watched
I have this on DVD and always think of it when everyone wants to dismiss him because of the later admissions. And yet they only talk about Lance using meds, never everyone else when they were ALL doing it but they werent all doing this training. This is how he surged when he needed and didnt when he didnt need to. His cancer taught him its all about numbers and discipline for long periods of time. Plus, he had the best team, everyone won it for him.
Yes, i've seen this one too before. You are correct. Most of the Tour riders were doping. However, this does not diminish the accomplishments of Lance. Seven in a row! And had he not retired its certainly possible he could have won several more because the guy retired for 3 or 4 years and came back at age 37 to podium in third place. No one gives him credit for literally riding the whole Tour in the early spring to check out all the nuances of the course and certainly all of the climbs. Every year he had different team members and through all of that generally the whole team remained intact the entire tour and no one got sick or crashed out. i only remember Lance having one bad day (Joux Plaine as I recall as be bonked because he did not take in enough fluids and calories) but he survived and came back to win the Tour. A remarkable achievement. He was just the fall guy for the entire doping scandals. Other sports (like baseball) were selective in who they punished as well and other "users" got a free pass. i think because Lance was American and at times prickly the Europeans took great glee in going after him.
This is the most unserious fanboy comment one can imagine.
All dopers were being questioned by reporters and whistleblowers, and sometimes arrested and paraded in front of the public as such. You either haven't heard about the Festina Scandal, Operation Puerto and what happened to careers of riders like Pantani and Virenque - in which case you have no idea about road cycling and are just one person's fan - or are ignoring that history to construct this victim narrative for the person who is the least fitting for the role of a victim from that era.
Then another claim, that supposedly it was only Armstrong who was "doing this training", when you don't get to even compete anywhere near the front of the field in grand tours unless you do all of what he is doing here.
And then supposedly in other teams the domestiques rode for themselves and not for team leaders, when the latter is how every single team operated and operates.
Lazy, ignorant clichés in service of gushing for a deeply unethical personality who was not only engaged in promoting himself to his fans as a clean athlete while doing the opposite, but went far beyond the other dopers by gaining support of influential people to attack and sink careers and destroy lives of those who questioned him and campaigned for truth on doping in cycling. Like the kids say, cringe.
@SvalbardSleeperDistrict you are just as bad as the guy you are attacking as your comment is biased with your obvious hatred towards Lance. It must have felt like daggers piercing your gut with every win Lance pulled off. Get real, we all know that everyone of these riders were doping along with taking a multitude of banned substances. It was an even playing field for all. Lance was just better at it than the rest.
@@roadcyclist1 Should I wait for any actual points against any actual arguments in my reply, or did you arrive here to make vague, random, unqualified, irrelevant claims?
Loved it! Can’t wipe the smile off my face. Always was and always will be a fan. Your final comments nailed it.
Armstrong is a lying sociopath who will not hesitate to trash the reputation of anyone who points out how he cheated.
Amazingly well done. Gives you better idea of the team-aspect on this level of racing and gives us in the U.S. a peep @. the Spring Classics. Have to say, usually with a documentary running a subject like this, probably on a pretty small budget, the music is very well done. I wish I knew who did the music, seems 100% original and fits easily into the story.
Agree totally
Man, really want to find the music too, tried to shazaam about 4 songs in this and got nothing.
I love your cap! 😍
I actually totally had this DVD when it came out. The rampant hidden doping that was actually going on aside (and our collective disgust at Lance's denials), it's a great look into the dedication it takes for cyclists to achieve at the world's highest level.
You're a joke.....
1) to be competive (make a living at it) it was dope....or no chance
2) EVERYONE doing it...reporter makes a statement WITH NO EVIDENCE......of course deny
I wonder how much autonomy Lance actually had in the end. A lot of Hollywood actors are essentially blackmailed into lying about steroid use because of the potential loss of investment. Not downplaying his behaviour, but theres usually people behind these stars controlling what they say and do, and failing to abide by these requirements can lead to brutal consequences.
He was the smartest and most exciting athlete I ever had the pleasure of watching. I never missed a second when he was on a bike.
Lance Armstrong was a cycling PHENOM regardless of what he, and others over the years, got caught up in. The US govt set out to take down an individual, not the problem, like what is going on in America today in the political world. European cycling could not stand they got their heads handed to them on a platter. I don't like what Lance and other cyclists did with doping, they let the pressure to win take them over. That said Lance, is one of the greatest cyclists EVER to race. The TdF, while Lance was competing, got me through FOUR knee replacement surgeries. I could not sleep due to pain so I watched every stage live and then all the rebroadcasts. Thank you!!!
"Look George, you are so strong, it is like that there are two different Races" that had me rolling on the floor :D
I don't care about the doping. He will always be the best for me, ever. I can't never forget the way he made me feel while watching him on the tour de France. Nobody can't take that away from us not even Lance himself.
He has too many ego problems. Basically he a liar and a crook.😡
He's a criminal periid
@@lukespack Tragic minds will fall along the path to disgrace.
Loved Lance then still love him now he was just the fall guy, there still doping today allbeit ketones or cotizones. Thx Durian great video.
If pogacar isn't doping I'll eat my hat lol
Looks like dope to me
@@joseftullen6372 Brilliant cabbage salad in Slovenia😜
We love you Lance!
"...who says that?!" LOL Perfect mindset to be a winner.
Fucking animal
45:00 motoman 😂😂😀
theres No wayy you can ride....
Who ses that?✊🔥💯
I was probably the worst critic of Lance in the world but I definitely look at him in a.brighter light now, he made a lot of lives out there better and thats what every human should want to do...Glad I watched this now.
@@williamteasle He destroyed many people as well, don't forget that, it was more about him, he didn't care.
Hi Duranrider, who was the best for you between Armstrong and Pantani?
i love how he gets mad and skeptical whenever his coach tells him he cannot go...even if there is a avalanche or flood waters...he wants to see for himself :)
That’s acting. He wants to show he has something other riders don’t. Maybe he does but it isn’t hard work. All the guys train at 100%
Probably best part😂 "they said you can't go.. -lance, who said that😡"
Lance's place as the face of the doping era in cycling is somewhat unfair given its prevalence at the time, but at the same time, he was so sanctimonious about being clean that he bought himself that place.
? u missed his thousands of interviews obviously..... beeing a total asshole and more. he crushed people left and right. only after years of lies he came clear - to the point everything was already out. stop setting him on one stage with other dopers. no one was such a stupid idiot WHILST doping
No disrespect to you but what was he supposed to say !!!
If he's guilty of anything it's being a Smug Prick
But we've all been one of those at sometime of our lives 🤣🤣
NO its not. Yes others was doped. But Lance toke it to new lvls. You know shit about cycling if dont know this.
When a person you KNOW IS DOPING......but he says YOU ARE, while he lies about his doping....
Yeah, I'd do everything to destroy the guy
@@kar102030 It is a cliché fanboy reaction to deflect Lance ultra guilt on other riders. They want to make it sound as if it was an even playing field, but it was not, as thorougly descrived by Tyler Hamilton during the FBI investigation and in many interviews later. Armstrong mainly won due to his doping advantage. All others were training hard as well, even Ullrich. It is simply not true that Ullrich was not training hard.
Lance was then and still is my hero
That's two rides stopped by roads buried in snow, and one under water. Not a little snow or water either. Then you take the times he was knocked down, run off course, jumped the ditch, chased down breaks, on and on. Earned em, he did.
Just start at 4:23 and start laughing. This is an interesting documentary. "The only thing we have taken is a bunch of hard work..."
Hb doesn't do that much. You still need to develop huge vo2 max to saturate those Hbs with oxygen.
Hb of 14-16 is quite common finding in normal people. Even non athletic women and old people. I have an Hb of 14. I cannot go beyond 23Km/h on an avg on a flat road. Lance was a phenomenal athlete. Phenomenal.
@@ManishSingh-xo1fb avg 23km/h on what distance
He can climb on epo
Awesome post mate and great docco.
People forget - doping or not - Lance had to put in a fuck load of effort to win those titles - more than most of us would ever put in over the course of our whole lives. And the big question is - how many other people in the same tours were taking something as well!!
Yes totally agree! However, personally the reason I don't respect him for anything is he went out to destroy people's lives! Absolutely disgusting!
he was an average cyclist before he started doping...
he took so much hgh he gave himself cancer. that is a lot of hgh, a lot of effort.
Like EVERY other rider....Bullshit..
funny the logical leaps people take to try and justify their love for armstrong.
the answer to your question is "some, but not most of them."
and the "some" are cheating shits, just like armstrong!
Excellent sprint @43:38, cool video :)
I've ridden a few mountain stages of the tour de france (pre-race) and it will break you. None of us can judge Lance.