NHL TOP 10 Pure Goal scorers All Time
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- Counting down the top 10 MOST PROLIFIC goal scorers in NHL history. NOT who scored the most goals over the course of they're career. Theres plenty intangibles to consider. From injuries, lockouts or a crazy thing called a world wide pandemic. Some careers have been cut short and some careers extend far past they're prime but regardless of the situation these 10 MEN could FLAT OUT bury the biscuit.
Honerable Mentions
Gordie howe
Can Neeley
Eric Lindros
10. Jaramir Jagr
9. Maurice Richard
8. Phil Esposito
7. Bobby Hull
6. Pavel Bure
5. Brett Hull
4. Wayne Gretzky
3. Mike Bossy
2. Alexander Ovechkin
1. Mario Lemieux
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573 goals in 752 career games...nuff said Bossy is #1
yeah he's something
Lemieux had 620 goals after 752 career games. Gretzky had 625 goals after 752 games. So if they had career ending injuries at that point would that have made their legacies as great goal scorers better?
gretz 500 goals in his first 575. 99 didnt care about goal scoring after he avg 70 goals per season his first 6 his next 14 seasons he avg 32
Longevity is a big stat that is never spoke about and 1 that pays dividends to all out top 10s.
Only one had 9 straight 50 goal seasons while being headhunted every night .
Blackhawks lifer here buddy...seen em all as I'm 63...Best pure shooter might be Ovechkin...
Best SCORER is your guy....Bossy!
Loved the Isles n their dynasty!!
@@ronsparks2391 I’m almost 47 so I DO remember the tail end …
Mike Bossy
@@ronsparks2391 If you think Ovi is the best pure shooter, you haven't watched near enough hockey to comment on it.
@jh2245..i said MIGHT BE numbnuts..and everyone entitled to their opinion. There's others that come to mind, tho not many, as i've watched hockey some NEAR ENOUGH 55yrs...so, genious ..whom you got?
It's Bossy, hands down;. Had he stayed healthy, he probably scores 1,000 + goals. His 9 straight 50-goal seasons are simply ridiculous. It may be a record that is never surpassed. Gretzky called him the greatest goal-scorer he ever saw. A pretty resounding endorsement.
Mike Bossy all day long!
Bossy king!!!!
Mike Bossy #1. If he took as many shots as Ovechkin has, he would have hit the 1000 Goal mark by 30.
9 straight 50 plus season, bossy should be #1
I can accept Mario as #1, but the numbers say differently. Mario had a shortened career, who knows how much greater he could have been if he was healthy. Gretzky holds all time record for goals, so a valid and acceptable argument can be made for him. But Bossy too was playing with chronic back and knee injuries which also shortened his career to only 10 years. He is tied for most 50 goal seasons, but the only one with 9 consecutive 50 goal seasons. and holds the record goals per game at .764. Some of these players may be more complete players than Bossy, but he is the greatest pure goal scorer of all time!
92 and 87 goal scoring seasons(highest 2 in nhl history), 39 in 50, mannaged to score 894 goals and doesnt need a single one to remain at the top of the points list, at his peek having by far the highest gga of all time. sorry, if gretzky isnt #1 goal you fail to know stats or may have a bit of a bias.
yeah he still is the untouchable king of goals even if his playmaking tend to make us forget it
Gretzky is number 1 for me, but an argument can be made for Ovechkin and Bobby Hull. They both lead the league in goals more times than Gretzky, which might be a fairer way to compare since they played their primes in lower scoring eras than Gretzky.
So for me it's still Gretzky, but I can accept people saying Hull or Ovechkin. There really isn't a good argument for Lemieux ahead of Gretzky other than the eye test (meaning his highlights look prettier) and Bossy doesn't have a valid argument at all.
gretz 500 goals in his first 575. 99 didnt care about goal scoring after he avg 70 goals per season his first 6 his next 14 seasons he avg 32
WOW! Excellent choice! I was waiting for you to call Mario Lemieux. He was # 1! He has the most points per game of them all.
-Replace Espo with Howe
-Flip Jagr and Bure
..Otherwise bang on. Good list bud 👍
It’s still wild to me that Gretzky isn’t a pure shooter or goal scorer…and he continues to hold the record on number of goals scored. I understand why he’s not at the top of those lists… I’m just saying it’s crazy he holds the record.
wayne had 50 in 34 games spanning 2 seasons plus his 87 in 74 games
Wayne is still the best but too good at everything so we undervalue his goal scoring...
same with JAGR !
Good imagine lemieux with no cancer and back problem and dont forget that when he started with pitsburb the team was bad , the 66 his for sure top #1 no doubt he was the one man gang ,
Thank the good Lord people haven't forgot about Pavel Bure!! What an amazing list. Also an extremely difficult to come up with......I mean Lafleur, Stevie Y, Gartner, Crosby!! Whew....way to hard
I agree. I would add Guy Lafleur to the honorable mentions list.
I think Bobby Hull is underestimated on peoples lists. He went to the WHA at 33 years old. If you count his games up in both leagues, Wayne Gretzky and Bobby Hull both habe about 1470 games played. Brett Hull had 906 goals. Would be the most evern if he was in the NHL during those years he would have had more then Gordie Howe in the NHL.
Bobby Hull's era was much hatder to score then Mike Bossy playing years.
both HULLs are un derestimated nowadays honestly. Sure Brett had Adam Oates the genius but hey...
Another argument for Bobby Hull that gets overlooked is that he lead the league in goals 7 times. Ovechkin has lead the most, with 9 seasons, then Hull with 7, Esposito with 6, Gretzky, Howe, Richard, and Charlie Conacher with 5.
1.Lemieux (he would've had over 1000 if healthy)
2.Ovi
3.Gretzky
4.Bossy.
That's the top 4 imo.
They're a step above the rest.
5. Esposito
6. Brett Hull
7. Marcel Dionne
8. Bobby Hull
9. Jaromir Jagr
10. Pavel Bure
Gordie Howe would have to be next, maybe before Bure..idk.
It's so tough to rank these guys.
Guys like Richard, Selanne, Gartner, Yzerman, Sakic, maybe Shanahan would go next.
Just my opinion.
Edit..lol. maybe Richard should be higher. First 50 in 50. First to 500..
He was certainly the best of his era.
Maybe put him him where Dionne is..idk.
(I also didn't even think about Lafleur 🤦♂️) I quit. Lol
This video is great though. Good list. 👍
Appreciate the insigh I agree with everything u said
Definitely agree with Lemieux being at 1, dude was a man against boys and could score at will. He would've had the first 100+ goal season if it wasn't for cancer in 93, too bad injuries fucked him over.
Bossy over Gretz otherwise yes. Gretzky had some insane scoring seasons but overall he wasn't the same level of goal scorer as Bossy who was consistently putting up 50+ goal seasons.
@@coyrex1250 What? Bossy in 10 seasons - 573 goals in 752 games, Gretzky in 10 seasons - 637 in 774. Gretzky was obviously a better goalscorer.
@@coyrex1250 - Gretzky has the most 50 goal seasons (9) along with Bossy. Gretzky has the record for most 60+ and 70+ and 80+ goal seasons, and is the ONLY one to score 90+.
Mike Bossy is the best pure goal scorer I ever seen play. Too bad his career was cut so short due to the crosscheck and clutch and grab era he played in. Lets also remember it was a different game then as the red line came into play.
I actually think this is a pretty great list. Can’t argue with guys like Esposito, etc. because I never watched them. I hate how poor that hockey looks but I get. I am a Bure guy all day long and #6 is fair. Also I’m glad this channel didn’t pander to Gretzky too much.
i had a Mario Lemieux rookie card when i was 14, when i went to juvy my brother sold it on me, this was in 1995, my old teacher had a plaque with a bunch of hockey cards in hard see through plastic cases mounted to it, in the middle he had this tiny card, smaller than the rest, it was Gordie Howe, then around him he had Wayne Gretzky's Rookie card, Bobby Hull, Mario Lemieux, Bobby Orr and i think one more i can't remember, maybe Maurice Richard
oh ya did i forget to mention he won the lottery a year after i left his class lol, lucky guy
Great list but I personally would put Bossy or Lemieux at #1. I could never decide which one of the two was better so I say they are co number ones.
The thing with Ovechkin is his low shooting percentage at just 13%. He does take alot of shots. Also his goals per game is quite a bit lower than Bossy and Lemieux.
I'm a Lemieux guy here.
When Lemieux retired in 97' he had:
745gp
613g
1494pts.
Bossy had:
752gp
573g
1126pts.
Very comparable games played..
Both had injuries but Lemieux were worse, and Lemieux didn't have a Trottier to play with for several years.
Lemieux also had more assists by far, meaning he looked to pass a lot more.
Not taking anything away from Bossy, he was amazing, but I can't see how he was better than Lemieux.
@@MMGJ10 There is no denying Lemieux was the better overall player.
@@MMGJ10 hammer on the nail
@@MMGJ10 - and then there's THIS Gretzky factor that everyone is glossing over (probably because Gretzky was a "pass first" playmaker)... Mario had the better GPG average when he came back from retirement. At that point Lemieux hadn’t played even ONE game past age 31. Gretzky on the other hand played about 700 games past age 31. Of course Gretzky’s GPG took a hit. Then Mario went on to play only 170 games after that (past age 31). Here are their goals per game numbers after each of Lemieux’s retirements: FIRST retirement: Lemieux scored 613 goals in 745 games (0.82 GPG). Gretzky had 619 goals after the same 745 games (0.83 GPG). SECOND retirement: Lemieux finished with 690 goals in 915 games (0.75 GPG). Gretzky had 729 goals after the same 915 games (0.80 GPG). Gretzky wins in both cases, apples to apples. Here is the link to the source for these statistics:
www.statmuse.com/nhl/ask/how-many-points-did-gretzky-have-after-his-first-915-games
So the debate should't really be Lemieux vs Bossy. It should be Gretzky vs Lemieux (as usual).
@@MMGJ10 if you take goals per game avg. Bossy @0.76 is #1 #2 Lemieux 0.75 Lemieux was the better player who also played with some great players too like Jagr ,Brown, Young, Bullard, Tocckett
Rocket Richard got snubbed here damn.
At the same age Bossy retired Lemieux had a ppg of 0,84. If Lemieux didn't have so many problems he would have smash 1000 GOALS
but they did and so did gretzky. no one hhad a free ride.
@@moody9442 gretzy played hurt way more than mario did look at his stats post 91
Lemieux had CANCER ... @@kidpoker9408 not comparable. Only Saku Koivu, Cam Neely and Peter Forsberg can compare with Lemieux in injury/health hazards without passing away. (Rip to the likes of Stephane Morin and Pelle Lindbergh who would have been legends had they not passed away young)
My 12) Ovechkin / Kariya / Fedorov / Guy Lafleur / Mogilny / Brett Hull / Bure/ Selanne /Jagr / Bossy / Lemieux / Gretzky... #1 the great one
gretz had 500 his first 575 games only 394 over his last 987
Tough to question BOSSY as #1 guys
PAVEL BURE!!!
I'm still a fan of Sergei Fedorov first though. Russia's pride!
Offense and defense mastery! For a week in a year he was a DEFENSE player for Scotty Bowman on the Red wings cuz too much defense players were injured
Bossy is Number 2. Mario was out of this world and just different when he was on the ice he was the best player on the ice. but a pure score its Bossy over Ovi or Gretzky. Bossy did Micheal Jordan things. things you are amazed by. Islanders won 19 playoff series in a row. A Record that will never be beaten. goal scoring can be simple. in the right place right time your team is dominating there are rebound goals and then there is Mike Bossy who made it happen. I saw them all. Mario number 1 Bossy number 2
I agree on the top two goal scorers, just not sure what order I can pick them. I have watched a lot of hockey from the 70s until today and Bossy and Lemieux are the two greatest goal scorers I have observed. Can’t go wrong with either.
Bossy was the leading goal scorer in the 1981 Canada cup, won by the Soviet Union, with 8; as well as the 1979 Challenge Cup points leader in the NHL all-stars 3 game series loss to the Soviets
If Lafleur and Kurri are not on this list, how do u put not make the honorable mentions. Good list though, I woud have removed Richard and put in Lafleur
#1 with less teams the competition was higher , better. So I have to put Maurice Richard in the top 5 and (Esposito lower. Just because he scored many of his goals near the net )... + Bobby Hull has to be top 5 too. He wouldve retired at #1 or # 2 if he never left. And finished +800 to 900 maybe passing Howe goals.
uuuuhhh The Great One ... maybe #1?
Bossy vs Gretzky - First 10 years
Bossy: 573 goals in 752 games = .762
Gretzky: 637 goals in 774 games = .823
Leading the league in goals during this span:
Gretzky - 5
Bossy - 2
Add in the fact that Bossy was too brittle to play beyond his prime so he didn't face a natural decline and it's not even close
Total goals:
Gretzky - 894
Bossy - 573
Gretzky >>>> Bossy
didn't he have some of the biggest opponents and injuries? Like Pat Lafontaine or Peter Forsberg, Mario Lemieux and Saku Koivu....
bossy is among those types of players hindered by health so we cannot know the potential ...
Not everyone is Gretzky, Messier, Mark Recchi with amazing health runs
none had it worse than Jagr... he played againt Gretz, Iginla, Forsberg, Crosby, Ovechkin, Messier...
JAROMIR JAAGR FOREVER. HE would have been #1 had ne not lost like 4-5 seasons to lockouts and the KHL
@@WithScienceAsMySheperdJagr said he lost his love for the game and only got that back when he went to the KHL.
@@WithScienceAsMySheperdand Yzerman didn’t
No Guy Lafleur? He won 3 straight scoring titles in the 70’s. No mention of Bobby Orr?
Name of song?
Great list. I almost agree 100%. I would put Lafleur on and take Esposito off
We debated Lafleur for some time lol. Decided to go with Esposito who had the higher GPG and career Goal Total but Guy was absolutely one of greatest to put the puck in the net. Thank you for.your feedback👍
@@paulminshall6041 There have been so many great players that it's tough fitting them all in a top ten list. You get an idea how much talent there has been when a guy like Lafleur who scored 50+ in six consecutive seasons can't make the list.
Esposito did have the single season goal record until Gretzky, and retired second to Howe, until Gretzky and others passed him.
I made a list in a comment here, but forgot all about Lafleur..lol.
He's gotta be somewhere in the top 15.
Alexander Mogilny and Paul Kariya are pet peeves of mine, with my idol Sergei Fedorov... they might complete the top 15
Mike…Mr. Bossy if you nasty 🔥
Bossy. Not an argument
Bossy. Case closed..
#1.) Mario Lemieux(not even close)
#2.) Pavel Bure
#3.) Mike Bossy
#4.) Wayne Gretzky
#5.) Brett Hull
#6.) Alexander Ovechkin
Bossy is #1 you don't just count the goal totals. Bossy had 9 straight 50 plus goal seasons. what about 50 in 50, cherries on top leads his team to 4 straight cups. the person who put Ovechkin ahead of bossy need to go back to school.
The Teemu Selanne of the 1970s ! Long live Mike Bossy!
Wrong. He was the Mike Bossy of the 90's.
hahahah @@dougbrowne9890 I know ;) I was talking to those who are too young to know what the scandal about the Brett Hull goal vs Hasek meant.... MIKE I followed him on TV during lunch in the 1990s when he was retired :P funny dude,. true legend
Jagr top 5
Probably close to the right top 10 but what was the rationale for the order aside from fandom, preference or style?
The guy with the most goals ever (Gretzky) is 4th so I thought okay you are valuing goals per game (eg. Lemieux at #1) but then you have Bure at #6 when I think he’s 3rd all time in the modern game. And you could argue guys like Selanne etc but beyond style they aren’t top 10 in total goals or goals per game so tough to beat anyone else out.
Ya combination of goals per game average and longevity
Jagr might have passed Gretzky if he didn’t play in Russia for a few years
Gretzky might have scored 1000 goals if he'd played as many games as Jagr...
@@michaelgriffiths8068 Gretzky was pretty shot by 98, 99. He was strictly an assist man by then.
@@66smithra - well, if we’re going to make excuses for Jagr not reaching 1000 goals, then we can do the same for Gretzky: The Gary Suter hit in the 1991 Canada Cup and subsequent herniated disc back surgery dropped his production by 30%. Plus he missed half of the 1993 season as a result (the highest scoring season of the 90s), and also had to endure a lock-out season. He was never the same player after that Canada Cup injury, and I’m sure he would have played a couple more seasons without that injury as well. Definitely would have hit 1000 goals if not for that.
@@66smithra gretzky lead the 98 and 99 rangers in points. his team sucked and his back was shot.
@@moody9442 But like I said, by then he was not a goal scorer. He was a setup man. In fact, he never scored 50 again after the age of 28.
NHL Goals per game with 400+ goals: Bossy, Lemieux, Bure, Ovechkin, Gretzky, Hull, Hull, Esposito, Richard, Dionne. I would order Lemieux, Ovechkin, Bure, Bossy, Gretzky at the top with Bobby over Brett.
If you include ALL goals, playoff and regular season goals, or even if you just count playoff goals (Which are obviously the far more important and big ones), Lemieux is actually first in goals per game, just as they have him #1. Lemieux is a slight fraction behind Bossy overall in the regular season, but that only after coming out of retirement after 3 years off. Lemieux was easily the best pure goal scorer ever. I repeat, easily!
@@jh2245 I agree.
I agree with Lafleur being missing in action. Esposito was picking up Bobby Orr's garbage most of the time. He is the odd man out. Also, Rocket Richard should be higher on the list. 50 goals in 50 games in 1944-45 is as much an accomplishment as scoring 80 goals in the 1980's. He is definitely ahead of Pavel Bure at the very least. Also, where is Teemu Selanne?
ovi the best
Wayne no1. Bossy no 2. Mario no 3. Alex. No 4. Look. Up skills. On Wayne scoring 70 goals 3 time bossy. 50 goals 9 straight years Mario. 85 goals in one year
Bad list no offence
My list:
Top 10 goal scorers of all time
1. Alex ovechkin
2. Bobby hull
3. Wayne gretzky
4. Mike bossy
5. Brett hull
6. Phil esposito
7. Mario Lemieux
8. Marcel Dionne
9. Maurice richard
10. Temmu Selanne
in no way shape or form can u have mario lemieux at 7....5 minimal
@@paulminshall6041 ya 4-7 was hard.
They could go any order and make an arguement. Brett Hull most goals in the 1990s. Bossy 9 50 goal seasons. In retrospect i should have him at least at #6 above esposito
@@paulminshall6041top playmaker Lemieux would be 2nd behind Gretzky. Mcdavid #3
Funny how guys were giving me heat about bossy, and like u said 9 50 goal seasons lol
@@rediscoveryrecords1348 hmm I may make this my next video. Lol been over a year but with activity increasing on channel I might get back into it... top 10 playmakers or top 10 ACTIVE pure goal scorers
Bossy was the best pure scorer on the list and should be #1. Jagr had a long career but shouldn't be on this list. Marcel Dionne belongs on this list over Jagr.
Ovechkin is the best pure goal scorer of all time! Consider how the game has evolved, oveckins task has been far more difficult and even Gretzky said it!
I could agree with that absolutely but then unhave to take into consideration the same physical specimen of Mario and having him grow up around the game same time as OVI and could have accomplished more then what he did
@@paulminshall6041 i can agree with most of that, until you consider length of career/durability as one of the most important factors. If mcdavid plays at his current level til he is Jagrs age.... he may catch Gretzky in points....j/k but thats just the point... 37/38 years old and dropping 50 goal seasons still. Hasnt missed many games. If mario ( make no mistakes, wish mario played longer but he may have been better for Pittsburgh even after his playing career) was as durable. I think ovi has 4 years left on contract. No reason to believe he wont play them. Should be enuff for him to get it.
Hey bro, i was just watching some old hockey games of gretzky and mario. In Gretzky 's prime, there was an 8 goals a game league avg. This was also true during marios first years. And was only as low as 6 during marios at the very end. It has been far lower during ovis entire career. Highest being 5.56 goal per game league Average. Coincidentally thats THIS year. Not to mention speed of the game and equipment. I would bet moneythat if he played in the times of gretzky, he would most certainly scored 1000 or better IMO. Any thoughts?
disagree totally, Mario Lemieux by a mile, then a distant second is Pavel Bure followed closely by Mike Bossy, then Wayne Gretzky, Brett Hull and finally Alexander Ovechkin
@@ethanmac639 you may wanna rethink that. OVI may hit 1000 before hes done. 3 years left on his contract after thiis year. Assuming he only plays those 3 years after this year, he could approach 1000. Not saying he will, but its possible. NO OTHER PLAYER CAN SAY THAT! Ovi is the greatest goal scorer of all time even now!
Gretzky 4th best? Let’s see any other player get to 500 goals in only 575 games. Gretzky was the fastest to every goal milestone: 200, 300, 400, 500, 600, 700, and 800 goals all in less games than any other player in NHL history. And the only one to 894 obviously. Bossy got to 500 goals in 647 games. Almost a full season behind Gretzky’s 575 games.
After 30 years old Gretz wasn't great to score anymore. After 35 he had trouble to put 20 per year. Lemieux cameback at 35 after 3 years off and scored 35 in only 43 games.I think Gretzky deserve a good spot, but no way he should be put in front of Lemieux, Ovechkin or even Bossy.
@@michaelgriffiths8068 Lemieux had to play too, thats why I would put him and Ovi before him, but if you look at the accuracy of Bossy I think is % is like top 5 best ever, he was a real good "sniper". Lemieux, Gretzky and Ovi are far behind of him for efficacity
@@Keeboy96 - If Gretzky had also retired at age 30 (like Bossy did), who would have been the better goal scorer? I think we both know the answer: The guy who had the better goals per game average (over the same number of games), which is Gretzky.
You’re basically rewarding Bossy for not having played the post-prime games Gretzky had to play.
Furthermore, Bossy never had a 70 goal season (Gretzky had 4 of them). Obviously no 80+ or 90+ goal seasons for Bossy by default (Gretzky had 2 of them). Bossy never even ONCE in any season beat Gretzky in goals when Gretzky was in his prime (starting at age age 21). This really isn’t even a debate.
@@michaelgriffiths8068 I'm rewarding Bossy because his efficacity of goal per shot was higher than all the others on the list. He was a great sniper
@@michaelgriffiths8068 Same goes for Lemieux and his braindead fans.
I think you gotta go with Ovechkin #1 Bossy #2 Wayne then Mario
mario exclipsed 70 twice gretzky 4x end of discussion plus mario had jagr wayne had kurri and wayne played hurt 40 percent of his career after the 91 suter canada cup stats prove it
Obviously you didn't watch much 80's or 90's hockey.
marios not scoring 1000 goals your assuming he maintaing pace later in their careers wayne was on 1400 goal pace.
I think Bure and Jagr should be higher than Gretzky. Gretzky is not a goal scorer
"Gretzky is not a goal scorer". He only scored 894 times with nine 50+ goal seasons. LOL
I think you're looking at the second half of his career where he transitioned to more of a playmaker.
When you can score 92 and 87 in a season, and 9- 50 goal years... and 894 goals... and 50 in 37 games? I think it was? (39 maybe? ).. and people say you WEREN'T a goal scorer!... then you must've been ONE HELLUVA playmaker too!
Lmao.
Just a reminder: he scored all of those goals while scoring more assists than anyone has total points!
11- 100 assist seasons..
His 163 assist season outscores every other season by every other player in NHL history in total points, except Lemieuxs 199pt, and 168 pt seasons.
Gretzky was a straight up magician, and one hell of a goal scorer.
This may be the single dumbest thing I've ever read.... your opinion on any subject must be instantly called into question by making such a ridiculous statement.
wayne 50 in 39 wayne 50 in 41 wayne 50 in 34 spanning two seasons 92 goals 87 in 74, 73 goal season 71 goal season wanye 500 in 575 games end of discussion his .6 gpa is scewed because he didnt score the second half of his career think about it he only score 384 goals his last 1000 games
Bossy is No.1 and you're wrong if you don't think the same.
none had it worse than Jagr... he played againt Gretz, Iginla, Forsberg, Crosby, Ovechkin, Messier...
JAROMIR JAGR FOREVER. HE would have been #1 had ne not lost like 4-5 seasons to lockouts and the KHL
you know when they show wayne as a st louis blue this video is screwed its all recency bias people werent even born when gretzky was a scoring machine 40 years ago
compare their first 10 seasons in the leauge its wayne all the way not even close
The two best pure goal scorers are Mike Bossy and Mario Lemieux. Not sure which one takes first...but sure both of them are head and shoulders above everybody else. Both grappled with injuries...factor that in and you really have to wonder how much better they were than everybody else. The great ape / great 8 is a fraud. Ovechkin's team scores less goals with him on the ice than their opposition scores on the capitals. He's a selfish ego-hulkster and vastly over-rated in a team sport. The most relevant stat here is average goals per game. Bossy and Lemieux are clearly one and two.