I'm totally 100% with you on RAM. I never understood why it's ranked at or near the top of Paul's catalogue. But I absolutely adore McCartney's first solo effort.
I bought both LPs within days of their release, in 1970 and 1971. I wasn't impressed with McCartney at all, Valentine Day, Hot As SunGlasses, Oo You, Momma Miss America, Teddy Boy, Singalong Junk, and Kreen-Akrore, are barely song ideas, in need of far more work than they received. that is more than half of the album! The Weakest song on Ram (3 Legs?) is better than any of them!
@@keithkarlinsky6632 I like that first McCartney album as well. It has a low key charm and has two of his best post Beatle tracks IMO, Every Night and Maybe I’m Amazed. One of his best vocal performances.
I am kind of curious what you feel about Peter Gabriel's "Passion" (the album he wrote as the soundtrack for "The Last Temptation of Christ"). It's a mostly instrumental work with some vocalizing that he released about 3 years after "So"; it was pretty much his first album released after "So" and, given its minimal chart and commercial success, you can't say that Gabriel had decided to "sell out" after releasing "So."
Excellent work! You make superb point about songwriters having a creativity “window.” For the best composers, I’m sure it’s more than 6 or 7 years, but what you said is true: nobody can write great songs forever. At some point, everything becomes a rehash. For me, it’s Fleetwood Mac and Rumors. If I never hear a song from it again, that’s fine.
All good choices and agree with almost all of them, but I do like “So” and more songs than you on it, “Red Rain” is a great song too, you missed that one. Well said on that Alanis Morissette album, I can’t stand her voice and the lyrics on that album are just a whine fest and stupid. She’s still trying to milk that album by brining it to Broadway. Broadway? Who wants to sit through a Broadway show of songs written by a whiny late teen early twenties with the maturity of a 15 year old, god that album is torture.
@@dannyschneider553I’m with you on Queen-the early stuff was way better. By the time Night at the Opera came out I was pretty much done with them. Cheers!
@@superhet7281 it is a good point about creative windows but some artists do buck this rule. My favourite Nick Cave album is definitely Orpheus/ Abbatoir Blues. To me it is a masterpiece and at that point he'd been pumping out albums for 20+years. Most artists though run out of steam , Paul McCartney as mentioned here had a handfull of good songs post Beatles- another day,live and let die, maybe I'm amazed but his Beatles catalogue is peerless. Lennon's post Beatles output was even thinner than Pauls and mostly lacked that cutting edge he'd had in the 60s.
I agree with you about artists having a limited creative period. I've never really properly understood the reasons why this is so. It's strange how they can create such fantastic music at one point in time, and then seem unable to discriminate between what is good and what is total garbage at a later point in their career.
I like betty, cold sun, joseph, anonymous, fever tree, to mention but a few. Bands that came and went, leaving a great legacy, most of them making a one off album. The bands that played for the love of music, and not propaganda, fame or wealth. Good musicians, penniless, and still managed to record great albums, overnight, in somebody's cellar or other places. But then again, I'm in to obscure psychedelic music, so, each to their own.
I agree. Exile was great, but the follow up was underwhelming and subsequent releases were aiming for commercial success like Avril Lavigne. Saw her live last year in Tucson and she did Exile in its entirety. Great show!
I agree on Horses and Hotel California.😂 I tried but failed to hear any greatness in any of those. On the other hand Joshua Tree is a milestone in my musical upbringing. Have not not heard it years though...
Simple list: ANYTHING by Black Sabbath, Kiss, Grand Funk, the Stooges, Metallica, the Ramones, or Judas Priest Pacific Ocean Blue by Dennis Wilson Thriller, Bad Smile, in any form, by Brian Wilson Led Zeppelin II Sandinistas by Clash Everything by Bob Dylan since Blood on the Tracks Everything by Paul McCartney after London Town Everything by David Bowie after Young Americans, except Let's Dance Everything by U2 after Rattle and Hum (not a great album, itself) Everything by Elvis Costello, after What's So Funny 'Bout Peace, Love, and Understanding Everything by Fleetwood Mac after Tusk Everything by Bruce Springsteen after Born in the USA Everything by the Rolling Stones, after Tattoo You Most of the "everythings" fall in the realm of "product", not "creativity". "A whole lotta resequencing goin' on ...", to repurpose a Jerry Lee Lewis line.
I'm generally rather tolerant around music. I basically like everything you picked, but I do need to spread things out in my listening habits. My wife is different, she could listen to the same stuff over and over and be happy. Do critics like Bat Out of Hell? Now that's an album that's way more popular than it deserves.
I remember when Bat Out Of Hell was released. I was excited because I loved Meat Loaf's vocal work on Ted Nugent's Free For All album & the artwork was bad*ss. Boy was I disappointed. Album has sold over 30 million copies worldwide. Don't know if the critics loved them but it seems that nearly everybody else does.
I’m not sure whether or not the critics adore this album, but I’ve always been very hard pressed to get the fascination of “ Appetite for Destruction “ by GR. And I know I’m not alone when I say that this album is SO overrated. While Slash is a great guitar player, that album and band was ruined by the worst front man in the history of front men 😆.
The most remarkable thing about Hotel California as an album, for me, is how boring and lifeless it is while very obviously trying to posture and sound important. That has A LOT to do with Don Henley. I can’t agree with you on a number of the other choices here, but Hotel California is easily one of the most overrated albums of all time, period.
Haha, let me congratulate you, sir! I found myself chuckling in agreement on most of your picks. I stopped paying attention to critics a long time ago, so I find it surprisingly hard to think of any picks of my own. Nevermind by Nirvana, perhaps? And to quote The Wonder Stuff, I never loved Elvis.
I never got into Pet Sounds. It's probably a matter of expectations. When it came out, I was listening to rock, discovering the blues, listening to "Revolver" by the Beatles, and getting into the San Francisco bands like Jefferson Airplane. The Beach Boys came out with what was a nice "easy listening" album, with Pet Sounds. The musicians on it were the same people who played on many other "easy listening" records, TV commercials, movie soundtracks and teenybopper pop ballads- and they sounded like that. In later years, I've come to appreciate Bryan Wilson's composing and arranging and I hear more of what he was going for, and why it's considered so "original", but when it came out, I just couldn't groove with it at all, and it still doesn't really sound like a proper rock record to me.
The reissue of pet Sounds on the Reprise label is the one to have . It was coupled with Carl & The PassionSo Tough. (1972). The original Pet Sounds sounds crappy on Capitol in comparison.
Well, you basically went after my favorites! Lol My take away is I want to listen to “No Other”. I love his work with the Byrds. If you put it the same category as Hotel California, Ram, Joshua Tree, The Wall, A Night At The Opera, So… then it must be great too. Oh well. I am not a hater. I couldn’t list the albums I don’t like; I just don’t think that way.
Good for you. I'd agree with most of these too. Since discovering Gene I am a fan. The good news is that all the songs on No Other are available as less cluttered demos and I much prefer them to the finished album. White Light is my favorite by him.
Apart from Horses and No other which I do love interesting choices, especially Queen, Hotel California (I love their first 3 LPs) and The Wall. Although Pink Floyd is one of my favourite bands, I found The Wall disappointing apart from Comfortably Numb and Mother. The Final Cut was a desaster with Roger using the remains Floyd as his backup band after firing Rick Wright- big mistake😢
Like you, I don't usually hang on to albums I don't like, but I will hang on to albums if I think it needs more listens for me to discover redeeming qualities I'm somehow missing. I agree that the albums you mention here are not particularly strong. None of them are in my collection. As for music critics opinions, I don't actually bother with them much anymore. I think Robert Chistgau may have killed off any urge to know what Rock critics thought about anything. I wouldn't have thought it possible but I seemed to strongly disagree with everything I encountered of his.
I can ignore most of the albums that you mentioned because I rarely listen to the radio but when I do, I never listen to anything be the Eagles. The Eagles wrote songs for adolescent boys, I'm with Lebowski on this one, they suck! Exile On Main Street was critically panned when it was released but now people gush over it. My opinion on Exile hasn't changed since '72, it has a couple of decent songs but overall, its a mess.
I really like Exile, but my least favorite songs are the ones often played on the radio that people go gaga over, Rocks Off, Tumbling Dice, Happy, Loving Cup - I could take or leave 'em, mediocre stuff.
I pretty much agree with you on all those choices with the exception of Nebraska. I bought it when it first came out, and loved it from the first listen.
I agree with every single one of your choices ... except Queen. Freddy was one of the great vocalists, Brian May a fantastic guitarist and a lot of solid song writing. But ... as I said ... couldn't agree with you more about your other choices.
This is a fascinating topic. You totally read my mind regarding Patti Smith's Horses. I had that album in my collection for over 40 years. I tried again and again to listen to it, but for whatever reason, it just never resonated with me. There are some individual Patti Smith tracks that I think are great (Ask the Angels, Til Victory, Dancing Barefoot, and Dream of Life, to name a few), and I appreciate her importance and influence as an artist (every so often I hear a younger performer and I think, oh that singer sounds just like Patti Smith). But as far as Horses being one of the greatest albums of all time, I can see why many critics and fans think so, but I just don't connect with it. Of course Tom, now you have whet our appetites for the converse video: Albums that I Adore, but the Critics Don't. 🙂
I used to think you and I were on the same page, aside from Hotel California, I really like all those records. I’ve said many time Joshua Tree to Zooropa is the only U2 I like! … I’ve listened to So a million times! … to each his own … I guess!
@@Peter-Burbank music is a super subjective thing and tastes can change over time. You can be introduced by a brother or sister and love them that reason or even a certain song can spark a good memory but you can realise it's not a great song. I love the hit parade of the early 70s ,the songs weren't always great but life was for me. You never get 100% agreement on music but its magical thing whatever you dig!!
Finally, someone who mentioned Alanis Morrisette in this context. Her voice is like someone doing Jim Carrey's 'world's most annoying noise' when he was in the van on Dumb and Dumber. I am fond of Sledgehammer as a song as I loved it when I was 5 and that album came out, I like Queen too. Post Beatles McCartney is dog crap and Comfortably Numb sounds like William Shatner. My choices would be all Pink Floyd albums (I only like the odd song), all Megadeth albums (can't stand Mustaine's voice) and every Radiohead album after OK Computer (dreary pretentious twaddle after that).
What a great subject! It’s scary how closely we agree on these albums and artists! One I’ll add is Astral Weeks by Van Morrison. Like oysters, I’ll try it again every few years but I always feel like I’m trying to like it. On paper, I should. But I really don’t. I think it’s the tone of his voice.
If I never hear Hotel California or The Joshua Tree again, that would be fine. The other ones that had the hype machine, like Patty Smith, never connected with me either.
I agree with almost all of your choices here Capo. I too listened to some of these LPs numerous times and then ended up saying “I don’t get it.” Also, I gave up on U2 after they started releasing crap like Zooropa…
I agree with you on about 35% of these (won't tell you which). Never got into U2. I always felt like they were like "The Emperor's New Clothes". Everyone thinks they're the greatest but I never saw it. I do like "under a blood red sky" but that's a time & place album associated with certain memories.
I'm sick to death of Queen, U2, Pink Floyd and the Eagles. I'll walk away from a warm plate of food in a restaurant if Hotel California comes on, my wife will text me when it's over. I've tried for years to get into Patti and I know I'm supposed to like her, but overall I only care about the songs she wrote for BOC. Only thing I disagree with is RAM. I adore that album and it's one of only a couple Paul albums I can sit through.
Wow! I loved every one of these albums except the Alanis M, U2 and Gene Clark. Gene Clark is the only one I never heard of, but based on your choices I'm gonna have to check him out... 🙂🙂
Pretty much nailed the lot, I've never liked Queen, U2 I could tolerate back in the day but they have not travelled well and I think the Bono sanctimonious loudmouth stuff sealed the deal. I've never got Springsteen whatsoever, the wall never turned me on although I agree comfortably numb is good. I never connected in any way with Patti Smith. Agree also with Eagles like a couple of songs but find them mostly boring. Ram is not in my collection either but I do have a big soft spot for Paul McCartney and put his genius right up with Lennon during the Beatles years and I'm afraid way above George's . George did some good stuff but when you dig into it McCartney drove the Beatles post 66 and aren't we fortunate he did. Anyway music is one of the most subjective things around but I think from my perspective my views line up with yours on these albums, I don't own any of them.
I agree with you on these albums. In the day all my friends had the "Frampton Comes Alive" album but I was not into it and sick of hearing it everywhere. I dig Humble Pie though.
Top favs i can't get into joni Mitchell Blue.. Carol king tapestry.. Television Marquee Moon.. Lou Reed Berlin.. love your show brother.. keep em coming..
Really agree about Paul McCartney''s post Beatles output. He was mostly brilliant when in the Beatles but on the Let It Be album, the song "The Long And Winding Road" seemed to be a preview of what would come once Paul was left to his own devices. The man is brilliant as musician and literally can play anything but went down the path of putting out nothing of substance after leaving the Fabs. Teaming up with your wife in a band is probably not a great idea. Check out On An Island by David Gilmour which got good reviews but after one listen I was finished. Sort of the same musical partnership.
I heard the track No Other ny Gene Clark and couldn’t wait to get the album in 74. I don’t like the record at all. It got filed away pretty quickly. The title track sounds amazing though.
On the U2 comment about "pandering to the American audience," you might want to look at their post-"Joshua Tree" success outside the US. If the group had ONLY been "pandering" to the US market, the group would never have had chart-topping albums all around the world. But they continued hitting the top of the charts in places like the UK, Australia, Canada, Germany, the Netherlands and Sweden over the following decades. Not trying to persuade you to like something you don't like but, ironically, even Bono admits that he only really started looking at IRISH music (the traditional stuff as well as the "revivalist" acts like the Chieftains and Clannad) after talking with folks like Bob Dylan (who admitted his own incorporation of Irish folk music into his material) and Van Morrison (who's managed to meld Irish traditional styles with contemporary pop/rock and blues) before recording "Tree."
Rumours by Fleetwood Mac, I hated what happened to that band when Buckingham/Nicks took over the band after Bob Welsh was fired. I cannot stand Stevie Nicks voice, and her solo work was absolutely dreadful. I also cannot stand all of the hype given to Nirvana and Pearl jam, their music is dreadful and very depressing. I also cannot stand Guns & Roses Appetite For Destruction! I detest Axl Rose's voice, and the music was horrible. I also cannot stand all of the hype that has always been given to the Beach Boys! I'm an easterner, so the whole surfing nonsense never mattered to me as a kid, so their surf music never did a damn thing for me. I also cannot stand The Ramones. Their music was nothing but Punk versions of surf music, and I was one of the people who saw them in CBGB'S back in the mid-seventies before they were big hits. I also cannot stand anything by Madonna.
Never liked Madonna. Zero substance, all shock value. Never understood the hype of Stevie Nicks. I like a few Mac tracks, but the sheep in heat voice was always a turn off. Guns N Roses are laughable. Riding the success of their debut album for 37 years now. Enough already! Pearl Jam is tuneless.
Tom I love your channel, but have to disagree about So, it is a masterpiece. Sledgehammer is a funky, horny gospel highlight. The production and vocals on this record is first rate.
I respect your picks and agree with the majority. Not a fan of any of these: Jefferson Airplane | Surrealistic Pillow Eric Clapton | Slowhand Joni Mitchell | Court and Spark
Hi, nice video. Agree on almost everything except So, Horses and Joshua Tree. To call JT pretentious for someone who is a big Genesis fan is a bit of an contradiction. Greetings
It's funny you showed Exile on Guyville when talking about Alanis Morisette, because Exile is one of those albums for me. I like the lyrics, and I think the first five or six songs are great, but then it settles into this midtempo atmosphere that it never breaks out of, and I just can't get into it. I'm with you regarding Queen and Pink Floyd though, two of the most overrated bands ever, I think.
With all these types of assessments, I switch constantly from "I totally agree" to "How could you possibly think that?" The idea that songwriters have a 6-8 year window has been suggested many times, but Bob Dylan, Leonard Cohen and Ian Hunter argue otherwise. However, they are indeed the exceptions. I'm much more of a Don Henley fan than an Eagles fan, but the title track of 'Hotel California' is an obvious classic. Is it the intro or the guitar solo or the rest of the song, or the lyrics? Yes to all of those. And, yes, we still hear it a lot, but there is a reason for that, as with 'Stairway to Heaven,' 'Bohemian Rhapsody' and 'Free Bird.' I had never heard of Liz Phair, but from a quick listen, she sounds interesting. A very creative use of discords. I cannot agree about 'Jagged little pill,' but I have never liked anything else Alanis Morissette has ever written. I totally agree on Bruce Springsteen and Paul McCartney. 'Nebraska' is not for everyone, as the state slogan goes. It is very brave but bleak beyond comfort, and I don't like any of his albums after that. And Paul McCartney wrote amazing songs for The Beatles and mostly saccharine rubbish after that, except for 'Flowers in the Dirt', which is a great album. Now, when someone rips into 'Led Zeppelin I' or 'Led Zeppelin II,' I'll really be listening. But nobody has the guts to take on Led Zeppelin, even though they have written four really crap albums, two meh albums, and yes, two excellent albums. That will be integrity.
I don't like much of the Stones' catalog, particularly their FM heyday of the mid '70s; Exile on Main Street, Goat's Head Soup, Black and Blue, Some Girls. Each has real Classic Rock staples, and at least twice as many clunkers that never see the light of day. I got the other way on albums like The Wall, Joshua Tree, and So. When I think of them I think of the non-radio tracks. So, for the Wall it's 'The Trial, 'Mother',' and others. I never liked stuff like 'Another Brick ...', 'Young Lust', 'or 'Run Like Hell' [agghh!]. For Joshua Tree, it's 'Exit', 'One Tree Hill', "Bullett ...'. For 'So', it's non-radio tracks. In fact, I think what makes an album a keeper for me, is the stuff that I cannot hear on Sirius or Pandora, etc ...
Agree with your views on Queen, I always thought they were too over the top, although Brian May’s guitar tone is great. The Joshua Tree is dull, but I gotta say that I really love Achtung Baby. The only album you mentioned that I really take issue with is No Other
Moby Grape's debut album. It's okay, but not the kind of record that makes me look forward to playing it again. The critical adulation just mystifies me. I've never understood what Queen were trying to do. From the first album to the last, there's nothing even remotely relatable in their music for me. The media are absolutely in love with the music (and with the image of Freddie Mercury), but the fact that Queen--or what's left of it--tours arenas rather than selling out stadiums tells me that the public's fascination has waned considerably. They've got a following, but they're not the Stones or Led Zeppelin.
I laughed as I watched this because I predicted most of the artists, if not always the albums. I would add Rumours by Fleetwood Mac, OK Computer by Radiohead (possibly the most boring album ever made), and Pet Sounds by the Beach Boys (Good Vibrations knocks the socks off anything on that album). The only thing I would disagree with you about is Sledgehammer. I think it's brilliant.
I pick up what you're laying down regarding Patti's albums. But I've seen her with the Patti Smith Group a couple times at festivals here in Chicago and they were one of the best live bands I've ever seen. So I guess it affects the way i view her as an artist. I like Ram and Band On The Run pretty well. Always thought Paul's solo career was overrated though. Joshua Tree was the last U2 album I liked - only the deep cuts.
Okay. About Patti Smith, and in particular Horses. I have no choice but to give you two quotes from Hecklefish Moriarty from the Why Files: "Agree to disagree." and "HOW DARE YOU?" Outside of that, good show. I always liked the Eagles, could never bring myself to love them. I LOVED U2's the Unforgettable Fire, but the Joshua Tree was perfectly listenable as a current pop album, but l never bought into the idea that Bono was saving the world.
HOTEL CALIFORNIA is just a very consistent album and I even underestimated it. The best way I think to hear it is in 5.1, which is how NEW KID IN TOWN really surprised me. Henley also is great solo and BUILDING THE PERFECT BEAST is a masterpiece. McCartney understood that the r4evolution The Beatles helped make was over, so he changed gears, even if many did not like it. Love ADMIRAL HALSEY/UNCLE ALBERT. SO is different from older Gabriel, but it is a great album, love the Kate Bush duet and it has some classics that are iconic of their era, even without the videos or SAY ANYTHING... THE WALL is no TOMMY, but half of its success is because the film was a hit, one of the first 5.1 movies ever released. JAGGED LITTLE PILL is unintentionally funny. The Queen album is solid, but even better 5.1, but not big on that U2 album or the band as much as others.
Fascinating...I love the way you really try to listen to everything.... I love the last 2 tracks on No Other buy agree that there's something unrealised about the album...I think Queen are amazing but so forced and bombastic as to be almost unlistenable...I'm playing Elton John..Van Morrison...and Sparks a lot these days lol
Amen brother on “Night at the Opera” and “Hotel California”... you’ve had more than you can take and so have I I tried but failed to like “Goodbye Yellow Brick Road”... yes there’s a couple of good tracks but as entire album, NO ("Tumbleweed" much better)
A band and their highly touted first album that I could never stand is Boston. I have a couple more of their LPs and, surprise, I can’t stand those either.
I'm getting the feeling that oldies radio stations killed your interest in Peter Gabriel's So album, The Eagles' Hotel California and Queen's A Night At The Opera. I only know of Gene Clark's song Strength Of Strings because This Mortal Coil covered it on their Filigree & Shadow album and I haven't heard No Other. Alanis Morissette's Jagged Little Pill was played to death at the time in the early years of Virgin Radio (pre-Chris Evans's takeover). Re: Patti Smith - the likes of Greatest Hits Radio will only play Because The Night by her and that's because she co-wrote it with Bruce Springsteen.
After three perfect albums Supertramp came out with the awful Breakfast in America.(another group pandering to the USA). But the critics and public loved it! Well they were and are all wrong. Loved your “creative window” theory. So many of my favourites lost the plot in 1978-79. It was so depressing. Another example is “Some Girls” by the Stones. Everybody loved it and I hated it. It marked their full transition into a corporation with soulless songs and forced edgy lyrics.
@@paulsontag9233 I remember picking up Breakfast In America when it was released. Played it for a short time before radio seized on it and I couldn’t listen to it anymore. I never need to hear The Logical Song again.
I'll take "ram", "horses", "nebraska" and "the wall" 100 times over "hotel california" (which i've never owned but don't dislike). i know how you feel about peter gabriel (not crazy about much since "so" myself) and U2 (i enjoy something off of all of their records). i agree with you about the liz phair. at least you're consistent.
The Wall was my first record I bought with my allowance money. I was I0 years old. It meant something then cuz at a young age it was pretty amazing. Side four scared me and I never listened that side. Now the album doesn't interest me no more. I enjoy hearing your opinions. 🎵👍
Totally agree about The Wall . Ten minutes of good music, crammed onto a double album. So boring. I saw Queen in 76 but only because it was a free gig in London.
Great video. Delighted to have my prejudices confirmed. I've never liked U2 and Queen. Not keen on any of their stuff. I like Eagles, Floyd and Springsteen but not keen on these albums. Like you, I've tried hard to like the Gene Clark album. - I like the Byrds, Gram Parsons, Burritos, etc. - But can't get into this album.
I agree with your Paul McCartney view. Mostly great with The Beatles. But I found most of his solo stuff just sounded whiny. But liked just a few, Jet, Band On The Run (song), Live And Let Die, and a couple from the eighties. I mostly agree on Queen. But they made one great album in the seventies, Sheer Heart Attack, and a very different album in the eighties, Kind Of Magic. But most of their remainder was samey. Most of their overrated Night At The Opera album just contained MOR Pop filler. '39 was a passable track. But I liked Freddy Mercury's solo material of the Eighties which was a huge departure from Queen.
Let's be honest, most established bands have two, maybe three good albums and most albums have two, maybe three good songs, but most opinion is not honest.
I wanted to throw in 'Houses of the Holy'. If someone else mentioned this, sorry about that. I thought their first 4 releases were rock solid, and pretty interchangable in regards to ranking. Although lauded by the critics, when this 5th release came out, I was pretty much done with Zeppelin at this point.
I have always despised Blood, Sweat & Tears from 1969. It won a best album Grammy and so many people have liked it, but I find it completely unbearable.
I think I like Hotel California for the guitar work and the weird (explained repeatedly by Henley or not) lyrics, but there's no way I can actually voice a solid opinion just from sheer exhaustion -- I never want to hear it again. It is like trying to understand whether I like Stairway to Heaven or not. Does anyone really know if they like Stairway? It feels like, to be honest about a lot of these songs, you have to go back to when you heard it the first few times, but that's hard to do. I can say for certain I never want to hear the Eagles ever again. Also I categorically forbid anyone from disliking So -- that is my job, and stay in your damn lane. In college, this dude broke up with his girlfriend and he played "In Your Eyes" over and over on the stereo for like three hours (it was "their" song). And the problem is my face was melting from shrooms and inside I was screaming and screaming. He picked the WRONG NIGHT to have a meltdown and I wanted to die. So back off and let me hate So for everyone. You think you rank but you do not rank. I have stormed the gates of hell to So. I can hate it for all of you. And the civilizations beyond the stars. YOU ARE ALL ON NOTICE. ALL OF YOU. NOT JUST YOU READING THIS AND YOU, MR. CAPO FETISH. I MEAN *THE INTERNET.* THERE IS IRON IN MY WORDS OF DEATH FOR ALL COMANCHE TO SEE.
@@stephenxianI’ll take the songs off On the Border not written by any Eagle not named Bernie Leadon, and most of the tracks on Desperado. People think Desperado is pretentious but I think it’s kind of charming. I don’t like anything after On the Border.
Never really heard anything from Kate Bush here in America until her song was used in "Stranger Things". Then suddenly she was inescapable as everyone seemed to be singing her praises. I don't get the hype.
OK I am not done ranting. We must talk about Bohemian Rhapody. We need to build a movement. Bohemian Rhapsody should have been a Dr. Demento Funny Five classic, but somewhere along the line someone mistook it for Classic Rock. My theory is *no one really wants to hear this song again, ever.* We should rise up and call radio stations every time some horrible station plays it, because I strongly suggest it is one of those songs people think *someone else wants to hear* and, in reality, everyone is and has been over it for decades. Every time that song comes on, it sets my teeth on edge; it is a feeling like I am being punished for something -- something I am not aware of. Yes, friends, I am saying Bohemian Rhapsody is *Kafka-esque.* One year after the Wayne's World movie it should have been pulled, but because we are in the evil dystopian timeline, clearly this is being paid to activate some kind of sleeper cell or something because I cannot imagine anyone in existence wants to hear this exercise in high silliness ever again.
White Album by The Beatles -- still trying to like it for over 5 decades now, and I'm a big Beatles fan from the '60s. Exile on Main St. by Rolling Stones -- I like it a little better than when it came out, but I don't adore it Led Zeppelin II by LZ -- out of their first 5 albums I like this one the least and don't play it much Music From Big Pink by The Band -- I read about this album a lot before I finally listened to it, and it underwhelmed me when I finally did. But I do like their 2nd album a lot. Rumours by Fleetwood Mac -- I think its an OK album, but don't understand all the hype I agree with around half of yours, and vehemently disagree with the other half, but I enjoyed your list.
“White Light” is a much better album than “No Other”, I could never get into that album either and I’ve tried many times. It lacks something, I disagree with “Nebraska” though, I think that’s Bruce’s best album.
N board with majority of what you say, however I like Ram and the wall, Patti Smith has always left me cold, No Other , by Gene Clark, left me scratching my head as well, couldn’t get into it, can’t stand Queen or The Eagles, lost interest in Peter Gabriel after the third album as well. Some Girls is an album I could never get into that critics loved, couple of good songs, but I rarely listen to it.
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Whenever I hear someone dismiss the Eagles, it brings a tiny smile to my face.
I'm totally 100% with you on RAM. I never understood why it's ranked at or near the top of Paul's catalogue.
But I absolutely adore McCartney's first solo effort.
I bought both LPs within days of their release, in 1970 and 1971. I wasn't impressed with McCartney at all, Valentine Day, Hot As SunGlasses, Oo You, Momma Miss America, Teddy Boy, Singalong Junk, and Kreen-Akrore, are barely song ideas, in need of far more work than they received. that is more than half of the album! The Weakest song on Ram (3 Legs?) is better than any of them!
@@keithkarlinsky6632 I like that first McCartney album as well. It has a low key charm and has two of his best post Beatle tracks IMO, Every Night and Maybe I’m Amazed. One of his best vocal performances.
It's my favorite solo effort from him, Paul at his weirdest and funniest.
Pink Floyd degeneeated into Roger Waters' bitchfest backup band.
You’re right 😉
I am kind of curious what you feel about Peter Gabriel's "Passion" (the album he wrote as the soundtrack for "The Last Temptation of Christ"). It's a mostly instrumental work with some vocalizing that he released about 3 years after "So"; it was pretty much his first album released after "So" and, given its minimal chart and commercial success, you can't say that Gabriel had decided to "sell out" after releasing "So."
See also his soundtrack to Birdy.
Passion is a stunning record
@@josephwest124 two albums you play once
I’ve heard of the album, but have never listened to it. I’ll have to check it out.
U2 was a group I liked when they were popular but they haven’t aged well! 😮😮😮😮😮😅😅😅😊😅
Fleetwood Mac - Rumors
Excellent work!
You make superb point about songwriters having a creativity “window.” For the best composers, I’m sure it’s more than 6 or 7 years, but what you said is true: nobody can write great songs forever. At some point, everything becomes a rehash.
For me, it’s Fleetwood Mac and Rumors. If I never hear a song from it again, that’s fine.
All good choices and agree with almost all of them, but I do like “So” and more songs than you on it, “Red Rain” is a great song too, you missed that one. Well said on that Alanis Morissette album, I can’t stand her voice and the lyrics on that album are just a whine fest and stupid. She’s still trying to milk that album by brining it to Broadway. Broadway? Who wants to sit through a Broadway show of songs written by a whiny late teen early twenties with the maturity of a 15 year old, god that album is torture.
I like one queen album . That’s it . Queen 2 . Other was unlistenable
@@dannyschneider553I’m with you on Queen-the early stuff was way better. By the time Night at the Opera came out I was pretty much done with them. Cheers!
I agree on Rumors. It was just a poppy album.
@@superhet7281 it is a good point about creative windows but some artists do buck this rule. My favourite Nick Cave album is definitely Orpheus/ Abbatoir Blues. To me it is a masterpiece and at that point he'd been pumping out albums for 20+years. Most artists though run out of steam , Paul McCartney as mentioned here had a handfull of good songs post Beatles- another day,live and let die, maybe I'm amazed but his Beatles catalogue is peerless. Lennon's post Beatles output was even thinner than Pauls and mostly lacked that cutting edge he'd had in the 60s.
I agree with you about artists having a limited creative period. I've never really properly understood the reasons why this is so. It's strange how they can create such fantastic music at one point in time, and then seem unable to discriminate between what is good and what is total garbage at a later point in their career.
I like betty, cold sun, joseph, anonymous, fever tree, to mention but a few. Bands that came and went, leaving a great legacy, most of them making a one off album. The bands that played for the love of music, and not propaganda, fame or wealth. Good musicians, penniless, and still managed to record great albums, overnight, in somebody's cellar or other places. But then again, I'm in to obscure psychedelic music, so, each to their own.
Wouldn't it be a boring world if everyone liked the same music
Band on the Run was a humungously successful album. Jet is cool!
Totally agree with your Exile in Guyville vs Alanis Morissette.
An excellent album. Too bad her discography isn't exactly "strong".
I agree. Exile was great, but the follow up was underwhelming and subsequent releases were aiming for commercial success like Avril Lavigne. Saw her live last year in Tucson and she did Exile in its entirety. Great show!
I agree on Horses and Hotel California.😂
I tried but failed to hear any greatness in any of those.
On the other hand Joshua Tree is a milestone in my musical upbringing.
Have not not heard it years though...
Simple list:
ANYTHING by Black Sabbath, Kiss, Grand Funk, the Stooges, Metallica, the Ramones, or Judas Priest
Pacific Ocean Blue by Dennis Wilson
Thriller, Bad
Smile, in any form, by Brian Wilson
Led Zeppelin II
Sandinistas by Clash
Everything by Bob Dylan since Blood on the Tracks
Everything by Paul McCartney after London Town
Everything by David Bowie after Young Americans, except Let's Dance
Everything by U2 after Rattle and Hum (not a great album, itself)
Everything by Elvis Costello, after What's So Funny 'Bout Peace, Love, and Understanding
Everything by Fleetwood Mac after Tusk
Everything by Bruce Springsteen after Born in the USA
Everything by the Rolling Stones, after Tattoo You
Most of the "everythings" fall in the realm of "product", not "creativity". "A whole lotta resequencing goin' on ...", to repurpose a Jerry Lee Lewis line.
I'm generally rather tolerant around music. I basically like everything you picked, but I do need to spread things out in my listening habits. My wife is different, she could listen to the same stuff over and over and be happy. Do critics like Bat Out of Hell? Now that's an album that's way more popular than it deserves.
I remember when Bat Out Of Hell was released. I was excited because I loved Meat Loaf's vocal work on Ted Nugent's Free For All album & the artwork was bad*ss. Boy was I disappointed. Album has sold over 30 million copies worldwide. Don't know if the critics loved them but it seems that nearly everybody else does.
@@jtt8886 I agree, never been in my collection
@@jtt8886 I agree, never been in my collection
I’m not sure whether or not the critics adore this album, but I’ve always been very hard pressed to get the fascination of “ Appetite for Destruction “ by GR. And I know I’m not alone when I say that this album is SO overrated. While Slash is a great guitar player, that album and band was ruined by the worst front man in the history of front men 😆.
The most remarkable thing about Hotel California as an album, for me, is how boring and lifeless it is while very obviously trying to posture and sound important. That has A LOT to do with Don Henley.
I can’t agree with you on a number of the other choices here, but Hotel California is easily one of the most overrated albums of all time, period.
Haha, let me congratulate you, sir! I found myself chuckling in agreement on most of your picks. I stopped paying attention to critics a long time ago, so I find it surprisingly hard to think of any picks of my own. Nevermind by Nirvana, perhaps? And to quote The Wonder Stuff, I never loved Elvis.
Beach Boys Pet Sounds is one that I cannot understand the hype, also Love Forever Changes.
That record has never done anything for me either, only one or two songs are ear-worthy. I think it was all hype…
Pet Sounds was a great album, very unique.
I’ve always liked Pet Sounds, but have to admit I find it ridiculous it’s the most acclaimed album of all time.
8 good choices, but I have loved Horses since the day it was released, and I've always liked So.
I never got into Pet Sounds. It's probably a matter of expectations. When it came out, I was listening to rock, discovering the blues, listening to "Revolver" by the Beatles, and getting into the San Francisco bands like Jefferson Airplane. The Beach Boys came out with what was a nice "easy listening" album, with Pet Sounds. The musicians on it were the same people who played on many other "easy listening" records, TV commercials, movie soundtracks and teenybopper pop ballads- and they sounded like that. In later years, I've come to appreciate Bryan Wilson's composing and arranging and I hear more of what he was going for, and why it's considered so "original", but when it came out, I just couldn't groove with it at all, and it still doesn't really sound like a proper rock record to me.
The reissue of pet Sounds on the Reprise label is the one to have . It was coupled with Carl & The PassionSo Tough. (1972). The original Pet Sounds sounds crappy on Capitol in comparison.
Well, you basically went after my favorites! Lol
My take away is I want to listen to “No Other”. I love his work with the Byrds. If you put it the same category as Hotel California, Ram, Joshua Tree, The Wall, A Night At The Opera, So… then it must be great too.
Oh well.
I am not a hater. I couldn’t list the albums I don’t like; I just don’t think that way.
Pet Sounds, Sweetheart of the Rodeo, Black Album by Metallica, anything by Foo Fighters
@@georgecheung4271 I hear ya regarding Foo Fighters. 😉
Good for you. I'd agree with most of these too. Since discovering Gene I am a fan. The good news is that all the songs on No Other are available
as less cluttered demos and I much prefer them to the finished album. White Light is my favorite by him.
Apart from Horses and No other which I do love interesting choices, especially Queen, Hotel California (I love their first 3 LPs) and The Wall. Although Pink Floyd is one of my favourite bands, I found The Wall disappointing apart from Comfortably Numb and Mother. The Final Cut was a desaster with Roger using the remains Floyd as his backup band after firing Rick Wright- big mistake😢
Like you, I don't usually hang on to albums I don't like, but I will hang on to albums if I think it needs more listens for me to discover redeeming qualities I'm somehow missing. I agree that the albums you mention here are not particularly strong. None of them are in my collection. As for music critics opinions, I don't actually bother with them much anymore. I think Robert Chistgau may have killed off any urge to know what Rock critics thought about anything. I wouldn't have thought it possible but I seemed to strongly disagree with everything I encountered of his.
@@syater I agree with you. He was pretty pompous with his reviews.
You're absolutely right about Robert Christgau!
I will probably lose my cool kid membership with this one: Radiohead OK Computer.
@@homerwinslow9047 It’s not everyone’s cup of tea. I like it, but don’t understand the hype of Kid A.
The soap opera that is The Eagles, and the bland music they made, should just go away....please, just go away.
@@DavidSmith-ui7ub Amen!
I'm with you on all of these. I don't like the Rolling Stones, Queen, The Who, or Led Zeppelin even though I do respect them I used to like them.
I can ignore most of the albums that you mentioned because I rarely listen to the radio but when I do, I never listen to anything be the Eagles. The Eagles wrote songs for adolescent boys, I'm with Lebowski on this one, they suck! Exile On Main Street was critically panned when it was released but now people gush over it. My opinion on Exile hasn't changed since '72, it has a couple of decent songs but overall, its a mess.
I really like Exile, but my least favorite songs are the ones often played on the radio that people go gaga over, Rocks Off, Tumbling Dice, Happy, Loving Cup - I could take or leave 'em, mediocre stuff.
Agree with most of your choices. Joshua Tree does seem a bit self-serving.
Bravo, Tom. Thanks for bringing a sane perspective to those overrated albums especially "Ram" and "A Night at the Opera."
No issues except for Nebraska and Horses. As much as I have tried, I can live without hearing anything by Rush or Metallica again.
I pretty much agree with you on all those choices with the exception of Nebraska. I bought it when it first came out, and loved it from the first listen.
I agree with every single one of your choices ... except Queen. Freddy was one of the great vocalists, Brian May a fantastic guitarist and a lot of solid song writing. But ... as I said ... couldn't agree with you more about your other choices.
This is a fascinating topic. You totally read my mind regarding Patti Smith's Horses. I had that album in my collection for over 40 years. I tried again and again to listen to it, but for whatever reason, it just never resonated with me. There are some individual Patti Smith tracks that I think are great (Ask the Angels, Til Victory, Dancing Barefoot, and Dream of Life, to name a few), and I appreciate her importance and influence as an artist (every so often I hear a younger performer and I think, oh that singer sounds just like Patti Smith). But as far as Horses being one of the greatest albums of all time, I can see why many critics and fans think so, but I just don't connect with it.
Of course Tom, now you have whet our appetites for the converse video: Albums that I Adore, but the Critics Don't. 🙂
@@GreenManalishiUSA I actually did a similar video topic months back titled, “Favorite Panned Albums” Check it out. 😉
I used to think you and I were on the same page, aside from Hotel California, I really like all those records. I’ve said many time Joshua Tree to Zooropa is the only U2 I like! … I’ve listened to So a million times! … to each his own … I guess!
@@Peter-Burbank music is a super subjective thing and tastes can change over time. You can be introduced by a brother or sister and love them that reason or even a certain song can spark a good memory but you can realise it's not a great song. I love the hit parade of the early 70s ,the songs weren't always great but life was for me. You never get 100% agreement on music but its magical thing whatever you dig!!
Finally, someone who mentioned Alanis Morrisette in this context. Her voice is like someone doing Jim Carrey's 'world's most annoying noise' when he was in the van on Dumb and Dumber.
I am fond of Sledgehammer as a song as I loved it when I was 5 and that album came out, I like Queen too. Post Beatles McCartney is dog crap and Comfortably Numb sounds like William Shatner.
My choices would be all Pink Floyd albums (I only like the odd song), all Megadeth albums (can't stand Mustaine's voice) and every Radiohead album after OK Computer (dreary pretentious twaddle after that).
@@phoneboxchicken4108 I’m with you on your Radiohead assessment. 😉
Have you heard the song U2, by Negativeland? Bloody entertaining.
@@toddhill7483 I read a story about it awhile back. I guess there were legality issues and such. I need to hear that track.
What a great subject! It’s scary how closely we agree on these albums and artists! One I’ll add is Astral Weeks by Van Morrison. Like oysters, I’ll try it again every few years but I always feel like I’m trying to like it. On paper, I should. But I really don’t. I think it’s the tone of his voice.
I get it. I like the album, but it’s become ridiculously overrated.
If I never hear Hotel California or The Joshua Tree again, that would be fine. The other ones that had the hype machine, like Patty Smith, never connected with me either.
Totally agree with you. My copies of those LP’s have collected dust for years…Peace.
I agree with almost all of your choices here Capo. I too listened to some of these LPs numerous times and then ended up saying “I don’t get it.” Also, I gave up on U2 after they started releasing crap like Zooropa…
Approx 1:30 in... sounds like someone needs some Creedence. Lol.
Great channel. Now I'll finish the vid
I agree with you on about 35% of these (won't tell you which). Never got into U2. I always felt like they were like "The Emperor's New Clothes". Everyone thinks they're the greatest but I never saw it. I do like "under a blood red sky" but that's a time & place album associated with certain memories.
I'm sick to death of Queen, U2, Pink Floyd and the Eagles. I'll walk away from a warm plate of food in a restaurant if Hotel California comes on, my wife will text me when it's over. I've tried for years to get into Patti and I know I'm supposed to like her, but overall I only care about the songs she wrote for BOC. Only thing I disagree with is RAM. I adore that album and it's one of only a couple Paul albums I can sit through.
Ram is really good.. surprised Tom didn't like this one... Seems like his taste.
"Bohemian Rhapsody" always nauseated me.
Agree. I felt I only had to "like" it as all my then-workmates around me adored it and couldn't get enough of it.
I’m with you 100 percent. 😉
Wow! I loved every one of these albums except the Alanis M, U2 and Gene Clark. Gene Clark is the only one I never heard of, but based on your choices I'm gonna have to check him out... 🙂🙂
I was gonna say, Patty Smith horses, but you already did.
Pretty much nailed the lot, I've never liked Queen, U2 I could tolerate back in the day but they have not travelled well and I think the Bono sanctimonious loudmouth stuff sealed the deal. I've never got Springsteen whatsoever, the wall never turned me on although I agree comfortably numb is good. I never connected in any way with Patti Smith. Agree also with Eagles like a couple of songs but find them mostly boring. Ram is not in my collection either but I do have a big soft spot for Paul McCartney and put his genius right up with Lennon during the Beatles years and I'm afraid way above George's . George did some good stuff but when you dig into it McCartney drove the Beatles post 66 and aren't we fortunate he did. Anyway music is one of the most subjective things around but I think from my perspective my views line up with yours on these albums, I don't own any of them.
I agree with you on these albums. In the day all my friends had the "Frampton Comes Alive" album but I was not into it and sick of hearing it everywhere. I dig Humble Pie though.
Anything with Marriott on lead vocals is alright with me. 😉
Top favs i can't get into joni Mitchell Blue.. Carol king tapestry.. Television Marquee Moon.. Lou Reed Berlin.. love your show brother.. keep em coming..
Love Marqee Moon, but took me a while to get into
I agree on Berlin. A slog to get through and just tuneless.
I can't stand Pink Floyd "Wish You Were Here". The album after "Dark Side Of The Moon". How depressing.
After DSOTM, I could not wait for the next PF album. What a boring disappointment! Then that was it for me.
Yeah. Welcome To The Machine is soulless
Really agree about Paul McCartney''s post Beatles output. He was mostly brilliant when in the Beatles but on the Let It Be album, the song "The Long And Winding Road" seemed to be a preview of what would come once Paul was left to his own devices. The man is brilliant as musician and literally can play anything but went down the path of putting out nothing of substance after leaving the Fabs. Teaming up with your wife in a band is probably not a great idea. Check out On An Island by David Gilmour which got good reviews but after one listen I was finished. Sort of the same musical partnership.
I heard the track No Other ny Gene Clark and couldn’t wait to get the album in 74. I don’t like the record at all. It got filed away pretty quickly. The title track sounds amazing though.
The Wall bites! 😮😮😮😮😮😊😊😊😊😊
On the U2 comment about "pandering to the American audience," you might want to look at their post-"Joshua Tree" success outside the US. If the group had ONLY been "pandering" to the US market, the group would never have had chart-topping albums all around the world. But they continued hitting the top of the charts in places like the UK, Australia, Canada, Germany, the Netherlands and Sweden over the following decades. Not trying to persuade you to like something you don't like but, ironically, even Bono admits that he only really started looking at IRISH music (the traditional stuff as well as the "revivalist" acts like the Chieftains and Clannad) after talking with folks like Bob Dylan (who admitted his own incorporation of Irish folk music into his material) and Van Morrison (who's managed to meld Irish traditional styles with contemporary pop/rock and blues) before recording "Tree."
SF Sorrow by The Pretty Things....does not move the dial for me.
Anything by Leonard Cohen. Don't get the appeal at all.
Rumours by Fleetwood Mac, I hated what happened to that band when Buckingham/Nicks took over the band after Bob Welsh was fired. I cannot stand Stevie Nicks voice, and her solo work was absolutely dreadful.
I also cannot stand all of the hype given to Nirvana and Pearl jam, their music is dreadful and very depressing.
I also cannot stand Guns & Roses Appetite For Destruction! I detest Axl Rose's voice, and the music was horrible.
I also cannot stand all of the hype that has always been given to the Beach Boys! I'm an easterner, so the whole surfing nonsense never mattered to me as a kid, so their surf music never did a damn thing for me.
I also cannot stand The Ramones. Their music was nothing but Punk versions of surf music, and I was one of the people who saw them in CBGB'S back in the mid-seventies before they were big hits.
I also cannot stand anything by Madonna.
Never liked Madonna. Zero substance, all shock value. Never understood the hype of Stevie Nicks. I like a few Mac tracks, but the sheep in heat voice was always a turn off. Guns N Roses are laughable. Riding the success of their debut album for 37 years now. Enough already! Pearl Jam is tuneless.
Television's "Marquee Moon" does nothing to me.
Hmm...
Tom I love your channel, but have to disagree about So, it is a masterpiece. Sledgehammer is a funky, horny gospel highlight. The production and vocals on this record is first rate.
It’s well produced and I liked it at one time, but so overplayed. I just like Gabriel’s more adventurous edgy material better.
I respect your picks and agree with the majority. Not a fan of any of these:
Jefferson Airplane
| Surrealistic Pillow
Eric Clapton | Slowhand
Joni Mitchell | Court and Spark
@@robgasper8521 I agree on Slowhand. 😉
Hi, nice video. Agree on almost everything except So, Horses and Joshua Tree. To call JT pretentious for someone who is a big Genesis fan is a bit of an contradiction. Greetings
It's funny you showed Exile on Guyville when talking about Alanis Morisette, because Exile is one of those albums for me. I like the lyrics, and I think the first five or six songs are great, but then it settles into this midtempo atmosphere that it never breaks out of, and I just can't get into it. I'm with you regarding Queen and Pink Floyd though, two of the most overrated bands ever, I think.
@@chrisboerger465 Absolutely overrated.
90% totally agree with your selections, but I really love most of the Joshua tree.
With all these types of assessments, I switch constantly from "I totally agree" to "How could you possibly think that?"
The idea that songwriters have a 6-8 year window has been suggested many times, but Bob Dylan, Leonard Cohen and Ian Hunter argue otherwise. However, they are indeed the exceptions.
I'm much more of a Don Henley fan than an Eagles fan, but the title track of 'Hotel California' is an obvious classic. Is it the intro or the guitar solo or the rest of the song, or the lyrics? Yes to all of those. And, yes, we still hear it a lot, but there is a reason for that, as with 'Stairway to Heaven,' 'Bohemian Rhapsody' and 'Free Bird.'
I had never heard of Liz Phair, but from a quick listen, she sounds interesting. A very creative use of discords. I cannot agree about 'Jagged little pill,' but I have never liked anything else Alanis Morissette has ever written.
I totally agree on Bruce Springsteen and Paul McCartney. 'Nebraska' is not for everyone, as the state slogan goes. It is very brave but bleak beyond comfort, and I don't like any of his albums after that. And Paul McCartney wrote amazing songs for The Beatles and mostly saccharine rubbish after that, except for 'Flowers in the Dirt', which is a great album.
Now, when someone rips into 'Led Zeppelin I' or 'Led Zeppelin II,' I'll really be listening. But nobody has the guts to take on Led Zeppelin, even though they have written four really crap albums, two meh albums, and yes, two excellent albums. That will be integrity.
I don't like much of the Stones' catalog, particularly their FM heyday of the mid '70s; Exile on Main Street, Goat's Head Soup, Black and Blue, Some Girls. Each has real Classic Rock staples, and at least twice as many clunkers that never see the light of day. I got the other way on albums like The Wall, Joshua Tree, and So. When I think of them I think of the non-radio tracks. So, for the Wall it's 'The Trial, 'Mother',' and others. I never liked stuff like 'Another Brick ...', 'Young Lust', 'or 'Run Like Hell' [agghh!]. For Joshua Tree, it's 'Exit', 'One Tree Hill', "Bullett ...'. For 'So', it's non-radio tracks.
In fact, I think what makes an album a keeper for me, is the stuff that I cannot hear on Sirius or Pandora, etc ...
@@jricoc3475 I’ve always been a “deep cut” fan myself. 😉
Agree with your views on Queen, I always thought they were too over the top, although Brian May’s guitar tone is great. The Joshua Tree is dull, but I gotta say that I really love Achtung Baby. The only album you mentioned that I really take issue with is No Other
Moby Grape's debut album. It's okay, but not the kind of record that makes me look forward to playing it again. The critical adulation just mystifies me.
I've never understood what Queen were trying to do. From the first album to the last, there's nothing even remotely relatable in their music for me. The media are absolutely in love with the music (and with the image of Freddie Mercury), but the fact that Queen--or what's left of it--tours arenas rather than selling out stadiums tells me that the public's fascination has waned considerably. They've got a following, but they're not the Stones or Led Zeppelin.
@@jonathanmitchell9886 Well put. 😉
I laughed as I watched this because I predicted most of the artists, if not always the albums.
I would add Rumours by Fleetwood Mac, OK Computer by Radiohead (possibly the most boring album ever made), and Pet Sounds by the Beach Boys (Good Vibrations knocks the socks off anything on that album).
The only thing I would disagree with you about is Sledgehammer. I think it's brilliant.
I pick up what you're laying down regarding Patti's albums. But I've seen her with the Patti Smith Group a couple times at festivals here in Chicago and they were one of the best live bands I've ever seen. So I guess it affects the way i view her as an artist.
I like Ram and Band On The Run pretty well. Always thought Paul's solo career was overrated though. Joshua Tree was the last U2 album I liked - only the deep cuts.
Okay. About Patti Smith, and in particular Horses. I have no choice but to give you two quotes from Hecklefish Moriarty from the Why Files:
"Agree to disagree." and
"HOW DARE YOU?"
Outside of that, good show. I always liked the Eagles, could never bring myself to love them. I LOVED U2's the Unforgettable Fire, but the Joshua Tree was perfectly listenable as a current pop album, but l never bought into the idea that Bono was saving the world.
I would add Oasis, Radiohead,Take That to name a few.Never understood their appeal.
HOTEL CALIFORNIA is just a very consistent album and I even underestimated it. The best way I think to hear it is in 5.1, which is how NEW KID IN TOWN really surprised me. Henley also is great solo and BUILDING THE PERFECT BEAST is a masterpiece. McCartney understood that the r4evolution The Beatles helped make was over, so he changed gears, even if many did not like it. Love ADMIRAL HALSEY/UNCLE ALBERT. SO is different from older Gabriel, but it is a great album, love the Kate Bush duet and it has some classics that are iconic of their era, even without the videos or SAY ANYTHING... THE WALL is no TOMMY, but half of its success is because the film was a hit, one of the first 5.1 movies ever released. JAGGED LITTLE PILL is unintentionally funny. The Queen album is solid, but even better 5.1, but not big on that U2 album or the band as much as others.
Fascinating...I love the way you really try to listen to everything.... I love the last 2 tracks on No Other buy agree that there's something unrealised about the album...I think Queen are amazing but so forced and bombastic as to be almost unlistenable...I'm playing Elton John..Van Morrison...and Sparks a lot these days lol
Amen brother on “Night at the Opera” and “Hotel California”... you’ve had more than you can take and so have I
I tried but failed to like “Goodbye Yellow Brick Road”... yes there’s a couple of good tracks but as entire album, NO ("Tumbleweed" much better)
A band and their highly touted first album that I could never stand is Boston. I have a couple more of their LPs and, surprise, I can’t stand those either.
I'm getting the feeling that oldies radio stations killed your interest in Peter Gabriel's So album, The Eagles' Hotel California and Queen's A Night At The Opera. I only know of Gene Clark's song Strength Of Strings because This Mortal Coil covered it on their Filigree & Shadow album and I haven't heard No Other. Alanis Morissette's Jagged Little Pill was played to death at the time in the early years of Virgin Radio (pre-Chris Evans's takeover). Re: Patti Smith - the likes of Greatest Hits Radio will only play Because The Night by her and that's because she co-wrote it with Bruce Springsteen.
Could never get into or understand the hype over Nirvana! Very overrated!
After three perfect albums Supertramp came out with the awful Breakfast in America.(another group pandering to the USA). But the critics and public loved it! Well they were and are all wrong.
Loved your “creative window” theory. So many of my favourites lost the plot in 1978-79. It was so depressing.
Another example is “Some Girls” by the Stones. Everybody loved it and I hated it. It marked their full transition into a corporation with soulless songs and forced edgy lyrics.
@@paulsontag9233 I remember picking up Breakfast In America when it was released. Played it for a short time before radio seized on it and I couldn’t listen to it anymore. I never need to hear The Logical Song again.
I'll take "ram", "horses", "nebraska" and "the wall" 100 times over "hotel california" (which i've never owned but don't dislike). i know how you feel about peter gabriel (not crazy about much since "so" myself) and U2 (i enjoy something off of all of their records). i agree with you about the liz phair. at least you're consistent.
The Wall was my first record I bought with my allowance money. I was I0 years old. It meant something then cuz at a young age it was pretty amazing. Side four scared me and I never listened that side. Now the album doesn't interest me no more. I enjoy hearing your opinions. 🎵👍
Totally agree about The Wall . Ten minutes of good music, crammed onto a double album. So boring. I saw Queen in 76 but only because it was a free gig in London.
Great video. Delighted to have my prejudices confirmed. I've never liked U2 and Queen. Not keen on any of their stuff. I like Eagles, Floyd and Springsteen but not keen on these albums. Like you, I've tried hard to like the Gene Clark album. - I like the Byrds, Gram Parsons, Burritos, etc. - But can't get into this album.
I love the stuff Gene did with The Byrds. Top tier songs. Burritos with Gram is fantastic, but still don’t get the hype with No Other.
I agree with your Paul McCartney view. Mostly great with The Beatles. But I found most of his solo stuff just sounded whiny. But liked just a few, Jet, Band On The Run (song), Live And Let Die, and a couple from the eighties.
I mostly agree on Queen. But they made one great album in the seventies, Sheer Heart Attack, and a very different album in the eighties, Kind Of Magic. But most of their remainder was samey. Most of their overrated Night At The Opera album just contained MOR Pop filler. '39 was a passable track. But I liked Freddy Mercury's solo material of the Eighties which was a huge departure from Queen.
Sheer Heart Attack is good. Took me a few listens to appreciate it
RAM is as Dennis Miller said Random Access Memory or the end of McCartney! 😮😮😮😮😮😂😂😂😂😂
Let's be honest, most established bands have two, maybe three good albums and most albums have two, maybe three good songs, but most opinion is not honest.
I wanted to throw in 'Houses of the Holy'. If someone else mentioned this, sorry about that.
I thought their first 4 releases were rock solid, and pretty interchangable in regards to ranking.
Although lauded by the critics, when this 5th release came out, I was pretty much done with Zeppelin at this point.
@@keithkarlinsky6632 Interesting…that’s my fave Zep album. 😉
@@tomrobinson5776 I respect that. 'Houses' definitely came out in Zep's heyday.
I have always despised Blood, Sweat & Tears from 1969. It won a best album Grammy and so many people have liked it, but I find it completely unbearable.
David Clayton Thomas does have that lounge singer vibe. 😉
I think I like Hotel California for the guitar work and the weird (explained repeatedly by Henley or not) lyrics, but there's no way I can actually voice a solid opinion just from sheer exhaustion -- I never want to hear it again. It is like trying to understand whether I like Stairway to Heaven or not. Does anyone really know if they like Stairway? It feels like, to be honest about a lot of these songs, you have to go back to when you heard it the first few times, but that's hard to do. I can say for certain I never want to hear the Eagles ever again.
Also I categorically forbid anyone from disliking So -- that is my job, and stay in your damn lane. In college, this dude broke up with his girlfriend and he played "In Your Eyes" over and over on the stereo for like three hours (it was "their" song). And the problem is my face was melting from shrooms and inside I was screaming and screaming. He picked the WRONG NIGHT to have a meltdown and I wanted to die. So back off and let me hate So for everyone. You think you rank but you do not rank. I have stormed the gates of hell to So. I can hate it for all of you. And the civilizations beyond the stars.
YOU ARE ALL ON NOTICE. ALL OF YOU. NOT JUST YOU READING THIS AND YOU, MR. CAPO FETISH. I MEAN *THE INTERNET.* THERE IS IRON IN MY WORDS OF DEATH FOR ALL COMANCHE TO SEE.
@@ApoplecticDialectics That’s the best rant I’ve ever heard. Thank you. 😉
One of These Nights was a lot better than Hotel California!
Desperado is my favorite Eagles album followed by On the Border.
Yes
@@stephenxianI’ll take the songs off On the Border not written by any Eagle not named Bernie Leadon, and most of the tracks on Desperado. People think Desperado is pretentious but I think it’s kind of charming. I don’t like anything after On the Border.
" the most pretentious pompous shit ever"...well almost, with you though, what people get from U2 I will never understand.
U2? Boriiiiiiiiiiiing..
Never really heard anything from Kate Bush here in America until her song was used in "Stranger Things". Then suddenly she was inescapable as everyone seemed to be singing her praises. I don't get the hype.
@@timbates6309 I don’t get the hype either my friend.
OK I am not done ranting. We must talk about Bohemian Rhapody. We need to build a movement. Bohemian Rhapsody should have been a Dr. Demento Funny Five classic, but somewhere along the line someone mistook it for Classic Rock. My theory is *no one really wants to hear this song again, ever.* We should rise up and call radio stations every time some horrible station plays it, because I strongly suggest it is one of those songs people think *someone else wants to hear* and, in reality, everyone is and has been over it for decades. Every time that song comes on, it sets my teeth on edge; it is a feeling like I am being punished for something -- something I am not aware of. Yes, friends, I am saying Bohemian Rhapsody is *Kafka-esque.* One year after the Wayne's World movie it should have been pulled, but because we are in the evil dystopian timeline, clearly this is being paid to activate some kind of sleeper cell or something because I cannot imagine anyone in existence wants to hear this exercise in high silliness ever again.
@@ApoplecticDialectics Amen brother!!
Yeah @@tomrobinson5776 yes Amen 😊
You’ve let some air leak out of some over inflated balloons. So, how come no Led Zeppelin?
How about In Through The Out Door, though I don’t think it was ever highly rated by the critics.
White Album by The Beatles -- still trying to like it for over 5 decades now, and I'm a big Beatles fan from the '60s.
Exile on Main St. by Rolling Stones -- I like it a little better than when it came out, but I don't adore it
Led Zeppelin II by LZ -- out of their first 5 albums I like this one the least and don't play it much
Music From Big Pink by The Band -- I read about this album a lot before I finally listened to it, and it underwhelmed me when I finally did. But I do like their 2nd album a lot.
Rumours by Fleetwood Mac -- I think its an OK album, but don't understand all the hype
I agree with around half of yours, and vehemently disagree with the other half, but I enjoyed your list.
“White Light” is a much better album than “No Other”, I could never get into that album either and I’ve tried many times. It lacks something, I disagree with “Nebraska” though, I think that’s Bruce’s best album.
Rumours by Fleetwood Mac is way overrated in my opinion. They were a soft-rock band with a couple good Lindsey Buckingham tunes.
It was cool in ‘77, but the hype in 2024 is unjustified.
N board with majority of what you say, however I like Ram and the wall, Patti Smith has always left me cold, No Other , by Gene Clark, left me scratching my head as well, couldn’t get into it, can’t stand Queen or The Eagles, lost interest in Peter Gabriel after the third album as well. Some Girls is an album I could never get into that critics loved, couple of good songs, but I rarely listen to it.
I agree
Awesome video have a wonderful weekend tom ❤😊
@@aminahmed2220 You as well. 😊