I just replaced my hurricane lantern with this stuff. Using K1 it burns brighter and way hotter. I plan on buying a second lantern and doing the same thing to that one. I have about 5,000 BTUs in my living room all winter long 😎
Not sure that it's a good idea having it inside a small space without any ventilation like in a tent, but definitely seems like a brilliant material all round. One other thing, if anyone hasn't felt carbon felt yet, I'll describe the good properties as best I can. It's so soft and warm to the touch. It's main use it to protect against welding, grinder and cutting torch sparks. It doesn't catch on fire with your standard means. Suffice to say, I'm surprised they don't use it to line sleeping bags or Winter clothing with such wonder material. Heck, I wouldn't be surprised if fire fighters have it inside their suits, or something very similar 🙂
I'm trying to design one where the flame is mostly blue, most of the time. * When the flame is blue, it means there is very little to no CO being generated (A LOT safer for shelter/tent use). I prefer ceramic fiber over carbon felt, because it lasts longer with these higher temps. I've had carbon felt wicks start to get brittle and crumbly after just a few burns at these higher temps. If you're using carbon felt in a more traditional candle like way (like in this video), then it will last a pretty long time. * If anyone is interested, what I am trying is taking a double walled, SS mug from Walmart (ozark brand, cost like 7 dollars). I'm drilling holes in the bottom, but that don't go through both layers--just the first. Then at the top, I'm drilling holes on the inside, again only through the first layer (drilling SS btw, is a PITA). This is akin to the concept of a wood gassifier stove, minus the ventilation at the flat bottom part. The air gets sucked in at the bottom holes, and as it goes up in between the two walls, it gets heated, expands/pressurizes, and then is forced through the top holes on the inside, pushing the flame and smoke towards the center so a more complete/full burn happens. Then, I'm also drilling a larger, single hole (about an inch in diameter), about 3/4 the way up the SS mug that goes through both layers. That hole will slant down from the outside to the inside, and a tube will be secured in there (also slanting down from outside to inside some). That tube will reach to about the middle of the half circle wick, supplying lots of air to the lower part of the wick. This is sort of like a rocket stove feature, though not the same. This is also the fill hole for new oil or wax. When working with wax or oil burners, you have to be VERY careful of getting any water into the stove/burner part while they are burning. It can create intense and very dangerous fireballs. I will not use this for cooking, but only tent heating, and I plan to put a cover of some kind over the top in case condensation droplets or the like. I will probably experiment with putting a glass tube on top for a greater chimney and lantern effect, and then a mantle above that (SS steel mesh or the like), and above the mantle mesh will be a metal or ceramic top to get heated to radiate heat (also to help protect from falling water as well).
@@iimmannii I've decided wax (in the above form) is too dangerous for backcountry use and plan to stick with wood. You get any bit of water on the wax when it is super heated and it can get real ugly, real fast. Probably best to stick with wax in the form of candles.
Also a birthday candle in v oil will go all night. Just got to hold the candle with something, or stick it in some salt or sand at the bottom. Carbon felt is great. It will collect carbon and mushroom at the top. A minor inconvenience.
Great tip, thanks! Any concern about off-gassing? I also use Harbor Freight welding blankets to place hot stuff like this, propane heater on it or to protect the walls. The blankets are just fiberglass but can keep the tent/house from catching fire. We froze our azzez off during the Texas winter storm of Feb. 2021! I am far better prepared now. For emergencies, I carry a pint size paint can in the truck. It has a roll of toilet paper in it (without the paper core) and is filled with 71% rubbing alcohol. I hear it's good for about 2 hrs +/- an hour. It burns clean but is more dangerous for spills and such.
Hello friend.. I noticed in the beginning of the video. You said vegetable oil, but during The video you said Corn oil doesn't matter,❓️ thank you, the video is awesome.❤
Yep, a lot of people die of CO poisoning every year. The rule of thumb is if the flame is primarily orange to yellow, you need plenty of ventilation (and a CO monitor). If the flame is very blue, it is much safer, but you should still have a CO monitor on you. A blue flame indicates that combustion is more complete and that the CO is getting burned up/oxidized.
It does crack….so I fill my bowl with a little sand and set a ceramic bowl inside of it to buffer the heat but still store heat in the bowl…also put sand in the ceramic bowl as well to great a heat battery.
The carbon felt wick will last much longer than a regular wick made out of cotton, hemp, jute, linen, sisal, etc. But then again, the carbon felt is significantly more expensive than these materials, so maybe it is not so important. I guess if convenience matters, where you don't have to change your wicks near as much, then use the carbon felt. But if you don't care about doing that, then use the cheaper materials.
carbon felt is charcloth - usually its made with a cotton/polyester blend with the polyester melting to hold the charcloth together but you can char any natural fibers @@justinw1765
Absolutely do not use this in your house or in a closed room will give out carbon dioxide danger .😮 Extremely dangerous use caution .😮 I am using a plumbing carbon fiber and fireproof material and it is not staying lit long . Once the tip of the fabric gets dry it does not push the vegetable oil upward and turns off .😢 This DIY project would be wonderful if it actually worked. 🤔 You claim that this fabric will suck up the fuel from the bottom and continuously allowing it to be lit for a long period of time but once it dries up in the tip it turns off. It is great that the carbon plumbing fabric will not degrade quickly but if it does not absorb the vegetable oil upwards then what is the point in using it . 🤔 I am going to try rubbing alcohol or some lamp oil maybe that will work better since it is more thinner than vegetable oil which is thicker. Maybe that is the problem the vegetable oil is too thick to go upward.😮 I am using different types of fuel but the vegetable oil is not the good choice .🤔 Now I have to try to wash out the vegetable oil because I do not want to waste the carbon fabric . 🤔 But thank you for the DIY project. 🙂 I tried alcohol and it still does not stay lit it dries up and then goes off .😮
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I just replaced my hurricane lantern with this stuff. Using K1 it burns brighter and way hotter. I plan on buying a second lantern and doing the same thing to that one. I have about 5,000 BTUs in my living room all winter long 😎
Not sure that it's a good idea having it inside a small space without any ventilation like in a tent, but definitely seems like a brilliant material all round. One other thing, if anyone hasn't felt carbon felt yet, I'll describe the good properties as best I can. It's so soft and warm to the touch.
It's main use it to protect against welding, grinder and cutting torch sparks. It doesn't catch on fire with your standard means. Suffice to say, I'm surprised they don't use it to line sleeping bags or Winter clothing with such wonder material. Heck, I wouldn't be surprised if fire fighters have it inside their suits, or something very similar 🙂
Tents have plenty ventilation
I'm trying to design one where the flame is mostly blue, most of the time. * When the flame is blue, it means there is very little to no CO being generated (A LOT safer for shelter/tent use).
I prefer ceramic fiber over carbon felt, because it lasts longer with these higher temps. I've had carbon felt wicks start to get brittle and crumbly after just a few burns at these higher temps. If you're using carbon felt in a more traditional candle like way (like in this video), then it will last a pretty long time.
* If anyone is interested, what I am trying is taking a double walled, SS mug from Walmart (ozark brand, cost like 7 dollars). I'm drilling holes in the bottom, but that don't go through both layers--just the first. Then at the top, I'm drilling holes on the inside, again only through the first layer (drilling SS btw, is a PITA). This is akin to the concept of a wood gassifier stove, minus the ventilation at the flat bottom part. The air gets sucked in at the bottom holes, and as it goes up in between the two walls, it gets heated, expands/pressurizes, and then is forced through the top holes on the inside, pushing the flame and smoke towards the center so a more complete/full burn happens.
Then, I'm also drilling a larger, single hole (about an inch in diameter), about 3/4 the way up the SS mug that goes through both layers. That hole will slant down from the outside to the inside, and a tube will be secured in there (also slanting down from outside to inside some). That tube will reach to about the middle of the half circle wick, supplying lots of air to the lower part of the wick. This is sort of like a rocket stove feature, though not the same. This is also the fill hole for new oil or wax.
When working with wax or oil burners, you have to be VERY careful of getting any water into the stove/burner part while they are burning. It can create intense and very dangerous fireballs. I will not use this for cooking, but only tent heating, and I plan to put a cover of some kind over the top in case condensation droplets or the like.
I will probably experiment with putting a glass tube on top for a greater chimney and lantern effect, and then a mantle above that (SS steel mesh or the like), and above the mantle mesh will be a metal or ceramic top to get heated to radiate heat (also to help protect from falling water as well).
Will you make a video?
Yeah a video would be great 👍 seconded...yes please ⛺🔥🙏
I'd love to see that!
@@iimmannii I've decided wax (in the above form) is too dangerous for backcountry use and plan to stick with wood.
You get any bit of water on the wax when it is super heated and it can get real ugly, real fast.
Probably best to stick with wax in the form of candles.
@@justinw1765 I see, thanks
Thanks a lot! I like it. Please continue to show your great video....
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Also a birthday candle in v oil will go all night. Just got to hold the candle with something, or stick it in some salt or sand at the bottom.
Carbon felt is great. It will collect carbon and mushroom at the top. A minor inconvenience.
OMG! This would be great for my camper van.
Make sure you're ventilated really well. It's great for hammock shelters and tarp tents that vent. Stay safe, ventilate!
Great tip, thanks! Any concern about off-gassing? I also use Harbor Freight welding blankets to place hot stuff like this, propane heater on it or to protect the walls. The blankets are just fiberglass but can keep the tent/house from catching fire.
We froze our azzez off during the Texas winter storm of Feb. 2021! I am far better prepared now. For emergencies, I carry a pint size paint can in the truck. It has a roll of toilet paper in it (without the paper core) and is filled with 71% rubbing alcohol. I hear it's good for about 2 hrs +/- an hour. It burns clean but is more dangerous for spills and such.
I've used this system a lot with my hammock and tarp shelters, as long as it ventilates I think it's a good system. Be safe, ventilate!
Hello friend..
I noticed in the beginning of the video. You said vegetable oil, but during The video you said Corn oil doesn't matter,❓️ thank you, the video is awesome.❤
It doesn't matter, either one works well once it's primed.
Corn oil is vegetable oil.
Brilliant. Would it also be good to use tiki torch wicks
I wonder that myself because they are fiberglass and they don't get consumed easily.
Like the carbon fibre wick that doesn’t burn away. However the calorific output burning in a tent would surely be the same whether covered or not.
I imagine that covering it is to radiate the heat rather than letting it rise straight up.
Thanks😅
Raises the question if you could use this carbon fiber velt with kerosine heaters. Changing the wick with carbon velt, wil it work?
I am going to experiment with this when my wick runs out
What about fumes and soot ?
David what size is you copper tube ?
1" I believe
Thanks where do we get the metal thing.
Walmart utensil strainer!
@@davidjanca4864 thanks. 👍✨
What about the fumes and off gases filling the tent?
Deadly.
Yep, a lot of people die of CO poisoning every year. The rule of thumb is if the flame is primarily orange to yellow, you need plenty of ventilation (and a CO monitor). If the flame is very blue, it is much safer, but you should still have a CO monitor on you. A blue flame indicates that combustion is more complete and that the CO is getting burned up/oxidized.
Maybe a terracotta pot on top instead of the SS bowl. Would probably radiate heat better, depending on your situation.
It will eventually crack and break.
It does crack….so I fill my bowl with a little sand and set a ceramic bowl inside of it to buffer the heat but still store heat in the bowl…also put sand in the ceramic bowl as well to great a heat battery.
Couldn't you just char some natural fiber rope...
The carbon felt wick will last much longer than a regular wick made out of cotton, hemp, jute, linen, sisal, etc. But then again, the carbon felt is significantly more expensive than these materials, so maybe it is not so important. I guess if convenience matters, where you don't have to change your wicks near as much, then use the carbon felt. But if you don't care about doing that, then use the cheaper materials.
carbon felt is charcloth - usually its made with a cotton/polyester blend with the polyester melting to hold the charcloth together but you can char any natural fibers @@justinw1765
Absolutely do not use this in your house or in a closed room will give out carbon dioxide danger .😮
Extremely dangerous use caution .😮
I am using a plumbing carbon fiber and fireproof material and it is not staying lit long .
Once the tip of the fabric gets dry it does not push the vegetable oil upward and turns off .😢
This DIY project would be wonderful if it actually worked. 🤔
You claim that this fabric will suck up the fuel from the bottom and continuously allowing it to be lit for a long period of time but once it dries up in the tip it turns off.
It is great that the carbon plumbing fabric will not degrade quickly but if it does not absorb the vegetable oil upwards then what is the point in using it . 🤔
I am going to try rubbing alcohol or some lamp oil maybe that will work better since it is more thinner than vegetable oil which is thicker.
Maybe that is the problem the vegetable oil is too thick to go upward.😮
I am using different types of fuel but the vegetable oil is not the good choice .🤔
Now I have to try to wash out the vegetable oil because I do not want to waste the carbon fabric . 🤔
But thank you for the DIY project. 🙂
I tried alcohol and it still does not stay lit it dries up and then goes off .😮
Prime it with some alcohol. Once it comes up to temp it starts the wicking process
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