The problem I could see Robert, is that the olive oil did appear to give off a lot of soot! Another issue is that burning these fuels gives off water! This will create the perfect conditions for black mould! As a child born in the 1950’s we had paraffin heaters to keep us warm, as there was no such thing as central heating in most homes in the UK, so have an understanding of the issues with such heating systems. I do love your videos and your can-do attitude! We need to find a fuel that does not smoke, does not emit water vapour and burns cleanly without poisonous fumes! Come on Robert, you can do it!
Merry Christmas. Special thanks to the sound editor who has to edit out all those unwanted sounds after the beans. It’s a miracle you don’t blow the whole place up lol. Absolutely luv u Rob. You’re the best thing on u tube. On behalf of everybody Thankyou.
maybe the beans we eat in the UK is different to other countries but we do eat a lot of beans here (beans and toast, chips and beans) but we never seems to get the increase methane production that people from other countries talked about
Yeah it is a miracle he doesn't blow the whole place up You saw the size of those fire extinguishers he has in the back there That's hysterical He knows he's playing with fire in there I love him too Have a great day
Hi Rob (Re 1778) my name is Alexander or Alex if you prefer and I must say I find your presentations extremely enjoyable and entertaining not to mention informative and for that I thank you very much. My family on and off due to sieges and war and famine and disease has used an oil burner for lighting and heat for about 5000 years, yes even before the Romans and the siege of Troy . Yes I'm Greek God forgive me, anyway we discovered back then that the higher the flame the more smoke it produced and the adjustment of the flame down until the smoke stopped to zero was the most effective way to burn the olive oil, heating was provided by cooking fire most times but the small flame and terracotta pot system also was employed. Once again thank you for the fantastic show and keep the good work coming. With respect Alex.
🎄 Merry Christmas Robert! 🎄The 🎁gifts🎁 you give us year round are priceless.Thank you so very much! You are literally saving lives even if you don't know it.🙏♥️🙏
I will answer him here: OK Merry Christmas, I've been following you ever since the muppets disappeared on TV and with them the crazy French cook, you're the closest thing I've ever seen, hahaha. In any case, I can't understand someone putting this into practice with "extra virgin olive oil", more expensive than a liter of gasoline even in Spain and very healthy, in any case I would use used oil and never in the living room, with the evaporation of humid air impregnated with oil you will get a pleasant and almost eternal color and smell of frying at home. I don't think the Romans used this in their lamps, they already knew about tar and other fuels, the oil even came from Spain and its production was inspected, imagine its importance.
You don't live in a box, you live outside them. In fact the boxes are running for the hills begging for mercy. Love your positivity, your up beat delivery and your smiles. The best thing is that although my ideas do not work first time most of the time, you have given me the insight to revisit and try again until they do.
Good going. Olive pomace oil might be even cheaper still. Being as it's a secondary oil obtained after the first press in regular olive oil production.
Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to Robert and Everyone Here! Thank You Robert, I am much impressed by your Glee when you get something to Light!!😁🔥🔥 Lol!!!
I've been saying we need a new way ... not only for power but our whole business of being human. And over and over I've heard "I'm only one person. I can't change the world." I think the only way to change is on a personal level. And your ideas play right along with that thought.
Nice! Here is an idea to make it burn cleaner: Heat it to boil off it's water content and then use gelatin to purify it. Then add paraffin to thin it down. It would make a beautiful fuel if done like that. I like the tidbit about the romans. Thanks Rob!
ha ha - (edit): I like - (grammatically improved- no condescension intended, much appropriated, oops) how you just told Rob how to make the fake biodiesel he described the other day (really just viscosity reduced oil) - I see wat you did, tricky, lol... (yes thinning down will make it wick better)...
@@kadmow Have to remove the water as well, that was what I made the point about. It is new olive oil and not used oil. Only if it has been heated for some time will the gelatin work as needed. Also, due to acidity if you don't cook out the water and some of the acid it will be corrosive. I think you missed the point there. Yes it is almost the same as what he did, almost but not entirely. No need to be condescending to me. Re-read the comment and then re-read this one. Then do it again just to be sure you understand. Not being tricky in any way. So no you did not see what I did there.
@@jamesross1003 : ha ha - can't you laugh at a joke (ie. you repeating it as if it were an original thought - lighten up fella - punchline ruined..)... - no it isn't bio-diesel it is a substitute (parafin + vege-oil ≠ actual biodiesel), which one shouldn't expectnot to destroy the injection system of a common rail diesel sengine. - BioDiesel is "transesterised" vegetable oil... (big words - different product) - Cheers and have a really great New year...
@@kadmow Apparently you can't read. I said go troll someone else. Secondly, there is a reason why used cooking oil is used. It wasn't a joke you made it was meant condescendingly. No other way to take it. Go bother someone else. By the way learn what transient cooking oil is. I'll tell you it is used cooking oil with the water removed and impurities removed. That is basically what Rob did in that video. That is what gelatin and cooking oil it does. Biodiesel is just usually made in a different way to remove impurities. The process also thins it down and it if purchased also contains ethanol rather than paraffin. The ethanol serves the same purpose in manufactured biodiesel as the paraffin Rob used.
PEAS AND BEANS, LEGUMES that can be eaten with positive results for ones body. Then the metal enclosure can be used to heat and light your way in ones home. Just would love to get rid of the soot that can be seen coming from the heater. Do you think Robert you could get rid the soot part which would really make this a killer heater. Please give it a try fella.....This has potential. Robert have yourself a Merry Christmas and A Happy New Year fella. With many more to come. Peace be with you fella too. 🙂
Just started watching you and it's great you keep things short and sweet It's very funny and extremely educational I'm so glad I found the carbon fiber thing I don't want to pay for lamp oil and this particular video with what you can do with that was fabulous Thank you so much
Hey bud if you cut a hole in the bottom of that can and lifted it up you would probably get it to burn a lot more efficiently. They do this with Aladdin lamps and Aladdin heaters to increase the oxygen and get rid of the smoke that you have. Keep up the good work.
If you look how the ancients made their olive oil lamps, they made sure to put most of the oil at, or even ever so slightly above the height of the wick. A relatively wide, flat, yet shallow container allows a lot of oil at the same relative height as the wick, thereby reducing the effect of gravity pulling downward on the oil.
That is definitely one way. Another way is to super insulate the system, so that the oil or wax gets really hot and easily vaporizes (and before that, becomes thinner/more fluid). For example, in one wax burner I made/experimented with, I used a stainless steel vacuum insulated container as the main container. I got more blue and some green-blue flame than usual by doing that. I still need to fine tune the air ratio and funneling part of it.
@@misamsung6191 Not that I have found. No soot once it's gets going. Works better than the cotton wool I previously used. Just handy if you don't have carbon felt.
Every night, I light an oil lamp in little clay pot called a diya. I use sesame oil. Or clarified butter (ghee). It's not for heating though. Pretty much just a nice source of warm light.
Olive oil quite pricey at the minute but does burn superbly in my experience,the flame here is too high that's why it is sooting ,regulate the flame / wick , merry Christmas everyone and thanks for all the inspirational videos tnt.
When you speak of a large fuel supply so that you don't have to keep filling it, I think of the humidifier I have. The unit has a 1 gallon tank with a lid that has a check valve in the center that prevents the water from spilling out when you invert the tank and have the lid on the bottom. When the tank is placed on it's perch, a center dowel pushes up on the check valve opening it. Then the water pours out and fills the reservoir. When the reservoir level reaches the check valve, air is not available and prevents water from exiting the tank. A similar solution would be to take two cans of the same size. Attach a feed tube to both near the bottom. Put the wick in one can and fill a two liter bottle and flip it over on top of the second can making sure that the bottle rests securely and is not wobbly.
My current design for unhoused folks is a wick made of carbon felt also rolled with steel mesh to give it a wide burn area and some extra support and then I wrap it in a piece of copper wire to give it a foot and hold the rolled wick upright. Make sure your rolled wick touches the bottom of your container and sticks up at least 1.5 cm above the fue line. I put that in a metal cup of cooking oil and plant the metal cup in a plant pot full of sand as big as you want to move around. I cut some wire fence panel into 2 pieces 1 for my chimney/mantle/burn chute and one for my wind break reflector... I leave some extra fence wire sticking out so that they can be rolled up into 2 rings and staked down in the pot. The first ring should fit fairly tightly around the rim of your metal fuel container. Once it's staked in your plant pot cut a piece of steel mesh that will the space between the top of your ring and the rim of your fuel cup when it is rolled up and slide it in the ring. Roll and stake your outer ring to the same level or a little higher than the first ring. Cut a piece of foil that can be folded 3 or 4 times to add strength and wrap around the outer ring about 3/4ths of the way around to make a wind break and reflector. Cut sone extra fence material to make a grill top. Add some rubbing alcohol to your cup and wick and light it up. Ip put a cast iron skillet on top as a radiator and cooking surface big enough to keep rain from getting in the mesh burn chamber and set it outside in the California bomb cyclone and it worked for about 3 hours on a cup of oil with no maintenance. Heat light cooking and wind and water resistant... it actually helps to keep the sand or soil around your metal container wet to help spread the heat away from the fuel container. Without a heat sink of some type that doesn't get steam in your burn chute tge oil will get too hot and boil so violently that it blows itself out while getting hot oil all over the place... the burner or multiple could be planted in a garden with a more permant stove/oven set up using bricks and rocks and colored glass pieces and different pots and tops add nice fun variation and personalizing... I call it the Hurricane Hibachi or the Seed of Life... less than $1 to make with some hunting for materials (buy the carbon felt!!!!) And only requires scissors and wire cutters to build. THANK YOU ROBERT!!!! You made this possible too!!!! I am teaching some groups at a local cidery how to make them and hand out my first 100 Seeds next weekend. Cheers, Sir Smith please build one and show it off if you feel inclined 🥂
Most olive oil today is mostly soybean or "vegetable" oil. That is probably why you have a sooty burn. There is a non-profit that tests olive oils off the shelf, like you and I would buy it, for olive oil content and offers a stamp of approval to the ones that pass. Most olive oil makers advertise it with pride, manu right on the front of the bottle. I'm uncertain if they operate in your country but getting pure olive oil could contribute to a cleaner burn over the soy/olive mix. Great video, thank you for sharing! Coming right at a time some folks will definitely be taking advantage of information like this
I don't know where you're from, but in my country, Portugal, there's no mixing in olive oil. We've been using it for centuries, not making the best oil is not an option! There are three qualities of olive oil, Extra Virgin Oil (
By strange coincidence I tried doing something similar just yesterday (in that Vevor stove Rob made me have to have) with extra virgin olive oil as I had no ordinary cooking oil. I thought olive oil is supposed to be pretty pure oil so maybe it would work the same. It seems definitely thicker than ordinary vegetable oil and I found some ethanol gets it going better than methylated spirits because it seems to burn hotter thus getting the vaporising happening easier. I'm pretty sure you have a lot of smoke there because the length of the wick is important. If you made a burner so you have more control and can adjust the wick to the right air/fuel combination you will get very little smoke and soot and not a car out of tune ! I also got no oil smell either that my ageing nostrils could detect.
Great looking heater!!!..I want to build one!! ..question is how to make it more safe if knocked over..I used regular paper towels folded and wrapped tightly in place of the felt on the tin can heaters.. and after first burn they turn black and seem to work very well after that !! I used a corn tin can for the bottom and am considering securing the bottom one inch of a second corn tin can over the bottom can to stop some heat transfer to the bottom surface..I also wondered about securing a magnet to it to help it stay firmly in the reflector part..with the mesh screen in place. ..it makes putting the fire out a challenge too..but love the idea !!! Thanks for your great ideas!!!
We've had a bitter cold front here in the states, so I've been thinking about a solar heat collector. Using water/antifreeze, or possibly oil, to transfer the collected heat to a phase change tank of paraffin wax for the heat battery. I mentioned that in one of your sand battery video comments. Might hold enough heat to keep the well house thawed overnight.
If the sand battery is heated up enough and say around the size of a refillable pressured gas bottle you should get around 5/7 hours worth of good heat output from it depending on the setup but don't expect it to heat the whole house
@@ricci8497 Sand batteries don't actually retain much heat in the flat solar collection range. They work much better when they can be heated above, say 500°F. Flat solar water based collection systems usually only get to around 150°F, at best boiling water at 212°F. Paraffin wax phase changes around 125°-150°F, so such systems are much simpler to DIY. The sand itself is actually a fairly poor storage medium were it not for it's ability to withstand the very high temps.
@@Vibe77Guy It depends on the entire setup as I said I'm aware of several people who operate sand batteries and the mixed results they get from them a good setup can get 5/7 hours worth of good heat from them and have been operating them without their house central heating kicking in for some of them.
🌷Love your videos. I could not see how you put together the first 2 cans, could you explain that? also what the cake pan with holes and funnel provided to the unit.😊
You might try using a piece of wood inside the can, and then hammering in a large nail to make the holes. Filing down the inside might not even be necessary, though it may be desirable.
looks like an Aladdin kerosene lamp wick. Very bright and efficient lamps. Aladdin lamps are great. I have about 15 of different sizes with glass, brass, clay, copper, Stainless steel reservoirs. I keep them for emergency lighting when the power goes out.
RMS, I recently subbed to your channel and love your videos.. A friend lives in France and recently purchased a chateau.. They are struggling with heating issues.. Any ideas on room heaters to help them out.. Thx for all your wonderful videos.. I want to wish you a Merry Christmas and the happiest of New Years.. Take care my friend...
They probably need to focus on adding more insulation first and above anything else. If the place is not well insulated then whatever heating solution one does come up with, will ultimately be a lot more expensive and less effective. Insulation is the number one factor.
Robert I find your burner/heater very similar to the older "Perfection heaters" from the old days. Please take a look at them on TH-cam in particular the flame splitter that sits directly on top of the burner. I'm curious to see if would be an enhancement to your designs. Love your channel, thanks.
Oh yeah, had this cool one made of stained glass and a little metal tube in the center. Put a soaked cotton ball on top of it and light. Merry Christmas from across the pond.
I've built several versions of this with basically that design for the main burner part. I keep trying things to get the smoke to burn and eliminate the soot. No luck so far, but if I get it into the realm of being rocket stove... There's hope and there's doubt. Just wish I had some effective dimensional data. BTW: All versions of vegetable oil seem to give about the same results. (Also: I've had the supply of oil in the bottom get hot enough to start gassing and catch fire beyond the wick. Runaway burning that consumes all the oil very quickly.)
Have you tried stainless mesh or wool at the base of a rocket stove, with dripfeed? That carbon felt might be a good idea with some airholes punched thru.
@@sleeptyper I've got the air through holes sufficient to get a good burn (once the alcohol gets it started). But yeah, the idea of doing a drip-feed is probably worth exploring. I'm beginning to think that having an adjustable wick is essential for burning oil cleanly, but it's also possible that there's an optimal dimension of setting up the carbon felt in this kind of holder. (I have that pretty close after several versions.) The real problem is getting a burn up in the chimney to get a hotter burn and clear the smoke.
@@malHHkenny Have you tried putting it in a vacuum insulated container? I've been trying to get wax to burn more fully, and that is even more challenging than veggie oils. I did get a more full burn all in all, because the wax was getting super heated and more fully vaporized. I also had copper mesh in the wax to help spread the heat faster and more evenly. I still need to fine tune the air/oxygen intakes etc though. Anyways, with wax and more viscous oils, you need to get it up to a high temp to help with the vaporization. Nothing better than vacuum insulation. I used a cheap, like 7 dollar little V.I. container from Walmart. The first prototype, I just put it all in the container directly with some stainless steel mesh holding the carbon felt. Next time, I've going to put a can that is a bit higher than the container, in, and burn the wax or oil inside that, but with holes in the can. Unlike Rob, I did not put the carbon felt all the way around, but rather more of a flat piece in the middle. (I got some blue and green blue flame after the starting alcohol had burned off).
maybe my long winded comment about an internal updraft tube (tomato paste can) is pointing in the right direction? air flow under and up through center may help keep oil temp reasonable, same time more oxygen to flame itself.
Loved your talk rob an enjoy your holidays too kid, will be hopefully starting a project soon my self, a tiny house on wheels so i can stay up at work without having to spend a small fortune on fuel, might think about one of your stoves to heat it , will see how it progresses lol
Gravity, reservoir, valve, heat sink, 🔥 into stainless screen dome,vent appropriately. The catalytic device * ( Idk if that's what the screen is) will trap heat and begin to radiate and produce infrared waves while cleaning up the 🔥. I live these videos. You can also use a reflector to direct the infrared heat back to your heat sink or out towards a space.
I just found various oils in my cupboard that are rancid - Canola, vegetable, and a Thrive brand oil. I ended up dumping them all into one jug and marked it "rancid - use for camping oil" I figure I will take the jug out camping and do exactly what you did here. I'm hoping to experiment to see if I can boil a pot of water and even cook a meal over it. I'm just unsure how to control the flame.
In a previous video you showed fryer oil mixed with parafin. Would that combination but using olive oil (perhaps in a different concentration) not allow it to wick?
Definitely 👍 I have read the replies.. but Olive Oil is so much more expensive than veg,sunflower or corn oil... if you've watched Robs previous videos? He suggests adding 10% or maybe more of methanol, methylated spirits etc. To make it more easily flammable,which works out cheaper than Olive Oil 👍
Olive oil is a pretty heavy and relatively thick oil, it might need a bit of forced air injection for a complete burn, sort of like the forced air waste oil cooking stoves made out of all sorts of recycled materials that can be found on YT... a small 12v squirrel cage blower would work nice for this size of thing, I bet you could even rig it up to Peltier TEGs so that once lit and hot it’ll generate it’s own forced secondary air for a cleaner burn.
I got wax to burn more fully (as seen by more blue and some green blue flames) by putting it in a vacuum insulated container, and with some copper mesh in the wax. The wax got very hot pretty quickly, and started to vaporize more than it normally would. It still had some yellow flames too though. I'm still fine tuning it.
I wish you were my science teacher. I noticed that you were using extra virgin olive oil. Does the grade of olive oil matter? And if so, how do the different grades burn? Also, I have an idea myself. What if chaffing fuel was used to heat it from the bottom and outer edge of the can instead? It burns for a long time and maintains a stout blue flame itself. I've been finding that this sort of thing works best with gel fuels, as they were intended to gently heat trays on a buffet table. In essence, it's just "chaffing" the main fuel and keeping it reasonably hot. I haven't tried this with plant oils yet though. Happy holidays 🥳
Now that reinforced my already high Christmas spirit right off. I'm feeling all Charles Dickensonish. Merry Christmas Dr. Smith. Please Sir, may we have some more? You should have been wearing old period clothes. Cheers mates.
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The problem I could see Robert, is that the olive oil did appear to give off a lot of soot! Another issue is that burning these fuels gives off water! This will create the perfect conditions for black mould! As a child born in the 1950’s we had paraffin heaters to keep us warm, as there was no such thing as central heating in most homes in the UK, so have an understanding of the issues with such heating systems. I do love your videos and your can-do attitude! We need to find a fuel that does not smoke, does not emit water vapour and burns cleanly without poisonous fumes! Come on Robert, you can do it!
Merry Christmas. Special thanks to the sound editor who has to edit out all those unwanted sounds after the beans. It’s a miracle you don’t blow the whole place up lol. Absolutely luv u Rob. You’re the best thing on u tube. On behalf of everybody Thankyou.
Joining your Christmas wishes. And wishing Mr. Smith MANY crazy ideas this new year! 🙃
@@jeremiahbullfrog9288 I wonder what Rob is like after a few pints?
maybe the beans we eat in the UK is different to other countries but we do eat a lot of beans here (beans and toast, chips and beans) but we never seems to get the increase methane production that people from other countries talked about
@@dantronics1682 Hehehe... evolution? 😆
Yeah it is a miracle he doesn't blow the whole place up You saw the size of those fire extinguishers he has in the back there That's hysterical He knows he's playing with fire in there I love him too Have a great day
Hi Rob (Re 1778) my name is Alexander or Alex if you prefer and I must say I find your presentations extremely enjoyable and entertaining not to mention informative and for that I thank you very much. My family on and off due to sieges and war and famine and disease has used an oil burner for lighting and heat for about 5000 years, yes even before the Romans and the siege of Troy . Yes I'm Greek God forgive me, anyway we discovered back then that the higher the flame the more smoke it produced and the adjustment of the flame down until the smoke stopped to zero was the most effective way to burn the olive oil, heating was provided by cooking fire most times but the small flame and terracotta pot system also was employed. Once again thank you for the fantastic show and keep the good work coming. With respect Alex.
Basically you have made a gasifier. If you use wood chips instead of olive oil, you can make biochar!! (Great for your garden!). Thanks for sharing.
OMG I have just built an indoor ethanol fire. I have done an alcohol stove. Veg oil lantern and candle. Now I have to build this too!
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🎄 Merry Christmas Robert! 🎄The 🎁gifts🎁 you give us year round are priceless.Thank you so very much! You are literally saving lives even if you don't know it.🙏♥️🙏
I will answer him here: OK Merry Christmas, I've been following you ever since the muppets disappeared on TV and with them the crazy French cook, you're the closest thing I've ever seen, hahaha. In any case, I can't understand someone putting this into practice with "extra virgin olive oil", more expensive than a liter of gasoline even in Spain and very healthy, in any case I would use used oil and never in the living room, with the evaporation of humid air impregnated with oil you will get a pleasant and almost eternal color and smell of frying at home. I don't think the Romans used this in their lamps, they already knew about tar and other fuels, the oil even came from Spain and its production was inspected, imagine its importance.
Humm ..missing two very very important things! Vodka and vermouth! Merry Christmas!
You don't live in a box, you live outside them. In fact the boxes are running for the hills begging for mercy. Love your positivity, your up beat delivery and your smiles.
The best thing is that although my ideas do not work first time most of the time, you have given me the insight to revisit and try again until they do.
Merry Christmas Robert. And thank you.
Good going. Olive pomace oil might be even cheaper still. Being as it's a secondary oil obtained after the first press in regular olive oil production.
Merry Christmas to you both!
Most cheap olive oil isn’t really olive oil. (Yes it’s a thing, look it up) may explain the sooty flame.
The soot is likely the tuning of the wick height. Good stuff Robert.
Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to Robert and Everyone Here!
Thank You Robert, I am much impressed by your Glee when you get something to Light!!😁🔥🔥 Lol!!!
I've been saying we need a new way ... not only for power but our whole business of being human. And over and over I've heard "I'm only one person. I can't change the world." I think the only way to change is on a personal level. And your ideas play right along with that thought.
Nice! Here is an idea to make it burn cleaner: Heat it to boil off it's water content and then use gelatin to purify it. Then add paraffin to thin it down. It would make a beautiful fuel if done like that. I like the tidbit about the romans. Thanks Rob!
ha ha - (edit): I like - (grammatically improved- no condescension intended, much appropriated, oops) how you just told Rob how to make the fake biodiesel he described the other day (really just viscosity reduced oil) - I see wat you did, tricky, lol... (yes thinning down will make it wick better)...
@@kadmow Have to remove the water as well, that was what I made the point about. It is new olive oil and not used oil. Only if it has been heated for some time will the gelatin work as needed. Also, due to acidity if you don't cook out the water and some of the acid it will be corrosive. I think you missed the point there. Yes it is almost the same as what he did, almost but not entirely. No need to be condescending to me. Re-read the comment and then re-read this one. Then do it again just to be sure you understand. Not being tricky in any way. So no you did not see what I did there.
@@kadmow By the way, it is diesel(Bio-diesel). He told everyone that if you listened. Go troll someone else.
@@jamesross1003 : ha ha - can't you laugh at a joke (ie. you repeating it as if it were an original thought - lighten up fella - punchline ruined..)... - no it isn't bio-diesel it is a substitute (parafin + vege-oil ≠ actual biodiesel), which one shouldn't expectnot to destroy the injection system of a common rail diesel sengine. - BioDiesel is "transesterised" vegetable oil... (big words - different product) -
Cheers and have a really great New year...
@@kadmow Apparently you can't read. I said go troll someone else. Secondly, there is a reason why used cooking oil is used. It wasn't a joke you made it was meant condescendingly. No other way to take it. Go bother someone else. By the way learn what transient cooking oil is. I'll tell you it is used cooking oil with the water removed and impurities removed. That is basically what Rob did in that video. That is what gelatin and cooking oil it does. Biodiesel is just usually made in a different way to remove impurities. The process also thins it down and it if purchased also contains ethanol rather than paraffin. The ethanol serves the same purpose in manufactured biodiesel as the paraffin Rob used.
Outstanding candling and heating device and different variations thereof! So much fun!
PEAS AND BEANS, LEGUMES that can be eaten with positive results for ones body.
Then the metal enclosure can be used to heat and light your way in ones home.
Just would love to get rid of the soot that can be seen coming from the heater. Do you think Robert you could get rid the soot part which would really make this a killer heater.
Please give it a try fella.....This has potential.
Robert have yourself a Merry Christmas and A Happy New Year fella. With many more to come. Peace be with you fella too. 🙂
Just started watching you and it's great you keep things short and sweet It's very funny and extremely educational I'm so glad I found the carbon fiber thing I don't want to pay for lamp oil and this particular video with what you can do with that was fabulous Thank you so much
Really enjoying these lamps/heaters.
Merry Christmas 🎄, Robert. You're a source of inspiration and a guy I imagine would be a hoot to go for a beer with. All the best mate. 👍
Hey bud if you cut a hole in the bottom of that can and lifted it up you would probably get it to burn a lot more efficiently. They do this with Aladdin lamps and Aladdin heaters to increase the oxygen and get rid of the smoke that you have. Keep up the good work.
If you look how the ancients made their olive oil lamps, they made sure to put most of the oil at, or even ever so slightly above the height of the wick.
A relatively wide, flat, yet shallow container allows a lot of oil at the same relative height as the wick, thereby reducing the effect of gravity pulling downward on the oil.
That is definitely one way. Another way is to super insulate the system, so that the oil or wax gets really hot and easily vaporizes (and before that, becomes thinner/more fluid). For example, in one wax burner I made/experimented with, I used a stainless steel vacuum insulated container as the main container. I got more blue and some green-blue flame than usual by doing that. I still need to fine tune the air ratio and funneling part of it.
I have found those stretchy bandages you have in your first aid kit make excellent wicks for oil. Roll it up to about 3-4mm and works a treat.
Wouldn't the elastic in them cause problems?
@@misamsung6191 yes, 2-3 layers old 100% cotton socks would be better.
@@misamsung6191 Not that I have found. No soot once it's gets going. Works better than the cotton wool I previously used. Just handy if you don't have carbon felt.
Nice tip! Stretchy bandages as in gauze?
@@theTeknoViking Yes.
Every night, I light an oil lamp in little clay pot called a diya. I use sesame oil. Or clarified butter (ghee).
It's not for heating though. Pretty much just a nice source of warm light.
I sometimes use veg oil to light our log burner - no need for firelighters, just a small bit poured on some paper
You’re such a happy guy. I like that. Stay happy my friend. 😃👍
Olive oil quite pricey at the minute but does burn superbly in my experience,the flame here is too high that's why it is sooting ,regulate the flame / wick , merry Christmas everyone and thanks for all the inspirational videos tnt.
What a great day to make the video, since today is the 5th night of Chanukah, and they used olive oil lamps in the original Menorah!
Boot Polish is a good sauce of fire stays lit for ages
Nice. What's it made of?
I love the idea of the carbon felt, I have a ton of things I want to try now!
Excellent as always
Merry Christmas to you all
Your videos always remind me of my childhood watching blue peter , but your videos are way much better, thank you
Merry Christmas from the USA
Merry Christmas and God Bless. Enjoy all your vids!
Merry Christmas to you and yours (Luke too!), stay safe and warm. ✌️🎅👍
These videos are a great excuse to eat more cans of food!
When you speak of a large fuel supply so that you don't have to keep filling it, I think of the humidifier I have.
The unit has a 1 gallon tank with a lid that has a check valve in the center that prevents the water from spilling out when you invert the tank and have the lid on the bottom.
When the tank is placed on it's perch, a center dowel pushes up on the check valve opening it. Then the water pours out and fills the reservoir. When the reservoir level reaches the check valve, air is not available and prevents water from exiting the tank.
A similar solution would be to take two cans of the same size.
Attach a feed tube to both near the bottom.
Put the wick in one can and fill a two liter bottle and flip it over on top of the second can making sure that the bottle rests securely and is not wobbly.
Using the forever wick I now have a use for all my spent bacon grease etc! Thank you for your brilliance!
smells yummy when burned, I want to get some bacon going and some eggs. ! YUM
Thank you for all your videos, always very insightful in so many ways!
Genius of the lamp ...
Merry Christmas ⛄.
My current design for unhoused folks is a wick made of carbon felt also rolled with steel mesh to give it a wide burn area and some extra support and then I wrap it in a piece of copper wire to give it a foot and hold the rolled wick upright. Make sure your rolled wick touches the bottom of your container and sticks up at least 1.5 cm above the fue line. I put that in a metal cup of cooking oil and plant the metal cup in a plant pot full of sand as big as you want to move around. I cut some wire fence panel into 2 pieces 1 for my chimney/mantle/burn chute and one for my wind break reflector... I leave some extra fence wire sticking out so that they can be rolled up into 2 rings and staked down in the pot. The first ring should fit fairly tightly around the rim of your metal fuel container. Once it's staked in your plant pot cut a piece of steel mesh that will the space between the top of your ring and the rim of your fuel cup when it is rolled up and slide it in the ring. Roll and stake your outer ring to the same level or a little higher than the first ring. Cut a piece of foil that can be folded 3 or 4 times to add strength and wrap around the outer ring about 3/4ths of the way around to make a wind break and reflector. Cut sone extra fence material to make a grill top. Add some rubbing alcohol to your cup and wick and light it up. Ip put a cast iron skillet on top as a radiator and cooking surface big enough to keep rain from getting in the mesh burn chamber and set it outside in the California bomb cyclone and it worked for about 3 hours on a cup of oil with no maintenance. Heat light cooking and wind and water resistant... it actually helps to keep the sand or soil around your metal container wet to help spread the heat away from the fuel container. Without a heat sink of some type that doesn't get steam in your burn chute tge oil will get too hot and boil so violently that it blows itself out while getting hot oil all over the place... the burner or multiple could be planted in a garden with a more permant stove/oven set up using bricks and rocks and colored glass pieces and different pots and tops add nice fun variation and personalizing... I call it the Hurricane Hibachi or the Seed of Life... less than $1 to make with some hunting for materials (buy the carbon felt!!!!) And only requires scissors and wire cutters to build. THANK YOU ROBERT!!!! You made this possible too!!!! I am teaching some groups at a local cidery how to make them and hand out my first 100 Seeds next weekend. Cheers, Sir Smith please build one and show it off if you feel inclined 🥂
Most olive oil today is mostly soybean or "vegetable" oil. That is probably why you have a sooty burn. There is a non-profit that tests olive oils off the shelf, like you and I would buy it, for olive oil content and offers a stamp of approval to the ones that pass. Most olive oil makers advertise it with pride, manu right on the front of the bottle. I'm uncertain if they operate in your country but getting pure olive oil could contribute to a cleaner burn over the soy/olive mix.
Great video, thank you for sharing! Coming right at a time some folks will definitely be taking advantage of information like this
I don't know where you're from, but in my country, Portugal, there's no mixing in olive oil.
We've been using it for centuries, not making the best oil is not an option! There are three qualities of olive oil, Extra Virgin Oil (
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What a nice smiling.. Thanks for all funny and valuable videos..
By strange coincidence I tried doing something similar just yesterday (in that Vevor stove Rob made me have to have) with extra virgin olive oil as I had no ordinary cooking oil. I thought olive oil is supposed to be pretty pure oil so maybe it would work the same. It seems definitely thicker than ordinary vegetable oil and I found some ethanol gets it going better than methylated spirits because it seems to burn hotter thus getting the vaporising happening easier. I'm pretty sure you have a lot of smoke there because the length of the wick is important. If you made a burner so you have more control and can adjust the wick to the right air/fuel combination you will get very little smoke and soot and not a car out of tune ! I also got no oil smell either that my ageing nostrils could detect.
Awesome. I hope you had a more sumptuous Christmas dinner that wasn't just peas and beans!
Merry Christmas!!!
Thanks again for another great idea. Im going to make a mantle when my gauze arrives.
Merry Christmas Eve Mr. Smith! I think that heater looks really awesome as well!
Great looking heater!!!..I want to build one!! ..question is how to make it more safe if knocked over..I used regular paper towels folded and wrapped tightly in place of the felt on the tin can heaters.. and after first burn they turn black and seem to work very well after that !! I used a corn tin can for the bottom and am considering securing the bottom one inch of a second corn tin can over the bottom can to stop some heat transfer to the bottom surface..I also wondered about securing a magnet to it to help it stay firmly in the reflector part..with the mesh screen in place. ..it makes putting the fire out a challenge too..but love the idea !!! Thanks for your great ideas!!!
We've had a bitter cold front here in the states, so I've been thinking about a solar heat collector. Using water/antifreeze, or possibly oil, to transfer the collected heat to a phase change tank of paraffin wax for the heat battery. I mentioned that in one of your sand battery video comments. Might hold enough heat to keep the well house thawed overnight.
If the sand battery is heated up enough and say around the size of a refillable pressured gas bottle you should get around 5/7 hours worth of good heat output from it depending on the setup but don't expect it to heat the whole house
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Sand batteries don't actually retain much heat in the flat solar collection range. They work much better when they can be heated above, say 500°F. Flat solar water based collection systems usually only get to around 150°F, at best boiling water at 212°F. Paraffin wax phase changes around 125°-150°F, so such systems are much simpler to DIY. The sand itself is actually a fairly poor storage medium were it not for it's ability to withstand the very high temps.
@@Vibe77Guy It depends on the entire setup as I said I'm aware of several people who operate sand batteries and the mixed results they get from them a good setup can get 5/7 hours worth of good heat from them and have been operating them without their house central heating kicking in for some of them.
Happy Christmas thanks for your work and great ideas
Merry Christmas from a frigid Pensacola Florida ❤️
🌷Love your videos. I could not see how you put together the first 2 cans, could you explain that? also what the cake pan with holes and funnel provided to the unit.😊
Being from the Pacific I have access to whale oil. It works very well in lamps such as yours. Well done mate!
whales still hunted for oil ???
Merry Christmas Robert , I know I sometimes rub people the wrong way , it’s a Gift !
Looks like a great heater.
You guys have a lot of fun!
I envy you.
Merry Christmas mate. The 3d printer has gone down a storm. It's running 24/7 I don't think it's going to stop for a while yet
This is excellent! We'll certainly try this when i can get some power tools to make the holes in the cans
You might try using a piece of wood inside the can, and then hammering in a large nail to make the holes. Filing down the inside might not even be necessary, though it may be desirable.
You can also use the old style can openers (very cheap). Your holes won't be round, but more triangular though.
Meeeeeerrrrry Christmas Rob 🎅🎅🎅
looks like an Aladdin kerosene lamp wick. Very bright and efficient lamps. Aladdin lamps are great. I have about 15 of different sizes with glass, brass, clay, copper, Stainless steel reservoirs. I keep them for emergency lighting when the power goes out.
Merry Christmas. Great video. Do you think the soot is caused by the fuel? Or is it more likely to be air flow?
RMS, I recently subbed to your channel and love your videos.. A friend lives in France and recently purchased a chateau.. They are struggling with heating issues.. Any ideas on room heaters to help them out.. Thx for all your wonderful videos.. I want to wish you a Merry Christmas and the happiest of New Years..
Take care my friend...
They probably need to focus on adding more insulation first and above anything else. If the place is not well insulated then whatever heating solution one does come up with, will ultimately be a lot more expensive and less effective. Insulation is the number one factor.
Robert I find your burner/heater very similar to the older "Perfection heaters" from the old days. Please take a look at them on TH-cam in particular the flame splitter that sits directly on top of the burner. I'm curious to see if would be an enhancement to your designs. Love your channel, thanks.
...just love your videos... merry christmas my friend
Merry Christmas you fantastic people ❤
Oh yeah, had this cool one made of stained glass and a little metal tube in the center. Put a soaked cotton ball on top of it and light.
Merry Christmas from across the pond.
I've built several versions of this with basically that design for the main burner part. I keep trying things to get the smoke to burn and eliminate the soot. No luck so far, but if I get it into the realm of being rocket stove... There's hope and there's doubt. Just wish I had some effective dimensional data. BTW: All versions of vegetable oil seem to give about the same results. (Also: I've had the supply of oil in the bottom get hot enough to start gassing and catch fire beyond the wick. Runaway burning that consumes all the oil very quickly.)
I'll keep making taller and taller chimney sections until I see how rocket-like the setup becomes (or fails to become).
Have you tried stainless mesh or wool at the base of a rocket stove, with dripfeed? That carbon felt might be a good idea with some airholes punched thru.
@@sleeptyper I've got the air through holes sufficient to get a good burn (once the alcohol gets it started). But yeah, the idea of doing a drip-feed is probably worth exploring. I'm beginning to think that having an adjustable wick is essential for burning oil cleanly, but it's also possible that there's an optimal dimension of setting up the carbon felt in this kind of holder. (I have that pretty close after several versions.) The real problem is getting a burn up in the chimney to get a hotter burn and clear the smoke.
@@malHHkenny Have you tried putting it in a vacuum insulated container? I've been trying to get wax to burn more fully, and that is even more challenging than veggie oils. I did get a more full burn all in all, because the wax was getting super heated and more fully vaporized. I also had copper mesh in the wax to help spread the heat faster and more evenly. I still need to fine tune the air/oxygen intakes etc though.
Anyways, with wax and more viscous oils, you need to get it up to a high temp to help with the vaporization. Nothing better than vacuum insulation. I used a cheap, like 7 dollar little V.I. container from Walmart. The first prototype, I just put it all in the container directly with some stainless steel mesh holding the carbon felt. Next time, I've going to put a can that is a bit higher than the container, in, and burn the wax or oil inside that, but with holes in the can. Unlike Rob, I did not put the carbon felt all the way around, but rather more of a flat piece in the middle.
(I got some blue and green blue flame after the starting alcohol had burned off).
maybe my long winded comment about an internal updraft tube (tomato paste can) is pointing in the right direction? air flow under and up through center may help keep oil temp reasonable, same time more oxygen to flame itself.
I've read Egyptians used flax seed oil for their lamps, which apparently is also good fuel.
Merry Christmas and thanks for your prolific output X rooby
Absolutely brilliant! New to the channel & loving the videos!
Rob and Luke have a great Christmas and New Year
Awesome! Merry Christmas to you and your kin.
Happy Chrimbo lads! Cheers
Loved your talk rob an enjoy your holidays too kid, will be hopefully starting a project soon my self, a tiny house on wheels so i can stay up at work without having to spend a small fortune on fuel, might think about one of your stoves to heat it , will see how it progresses lol
Merry Christmas and an inspired new year
Great stuff...
Could you make an Iron -Air Battery and show how it works?
Happy Holidays.
All this time and you still don't strike me as the kind of guy that says millimeters. :) Merry Christmas, Robert, I hope your holidays are wonderful.
Very interesting. I wonder if carbon felt can be used as a wick in an oil lamp to make it useable with olive oil.
Gravity, reservoir, valve, heat sink, 🔥 into stainless screen dome,vent appropriately. The catalytic device * ( Idk if that's what the screen is) will trap heat and begin to radiate and produce infrared waves while cleaning up the 🔥. I live these videos. You can also use a reflector to direct the infrared heat back to your heat sink or out towards a space.
Beautiful! Merry Christmas!
Merry Christmas Robert & crew
Thanks for sharing.
I just found various oils in my cupboard that are rancid - Canola, vegetable, and a Thrive brand oil. I ended up dumping them all into one jug and marked it "rancid - use for camping oil" I figure I will take the jug out camping and do exactly what you did here. I'm hoping to experiment to see if I can boil a pot of water and even cook a meal over it. I'm just unsure how to control the flame.
Happy holidays and God bless 🎄🎅
In a previous video you showed fryer oil mixed with parafin. Would that combination but using olive oil (perhaps in a different concentration) not allow it to wick?
Checking the price of olive and vegetable oil yesterday for this very reason. Also thinking of the coil pre-heater.
Netherlands: Lamp oil: €2,50/liter, Olive oil €6,50/liter
Regular much cheaper vegetable oil will work too I'm sure
Oils all have very different properties. That's why he has bothered to be specific. So, don't be too sure...
@@az55544 vegetable oil works fine in glass oil candles
Definitely 👍 I have read the replies.. but Olive Oil is so much more expensive than veg,sunflower or corn oil... if you've watched Robs previous videos?
He suggests adding 10% or maybe more of methanol, methylated spirits etc. To make it more easily flammable,which works out cheaper than Olive Oil 👍
@@shaunh4283 the wick has to be short or it soots
@@agoogleaccount2861 definitely 👍 Always above regulating the burn 🔥 👍
in the US of A temperatures reached - 40 ºC and power shortages were reported... this kind of video is a important resource to theese days reality
Merry Christmas, Rob!
Olive oil is a pretty heavy and relatively thick oil, it might need a bit of forced air injection for a complete burn, sort of like the forced air waste oil cooking stoves made out of all sorts of recycled materials that can be found on YT... a small 12v squirrel cage blower would work nice for this size of thing, I bet you could even rig it up to Peltier TEGs so that once lit and hot it’ll generate it’s own forced secondary air for a cleaner burn.
I got wax to burn more fully (as seen by more blue and some green blue flames) by putting it in a vacuum insulated container, and with some copper mesh in the wax. The wax got very hot pretty quickly, and started to vaporize more than it normally would. It still had some yellow flames too though. I'm still fine tuning it.
So awesome!
Merry Christmas!🎁
Nice one guys and a Happy New Year to all DiY'ers
great idea and experiment, Rob. Is there a way to 'use' all of the excessive gasses that create the smoke: a bit like a rocket olive oil lamp?
I wish you were my science teacher. I noticed that you were using extra virgin olive oil. Does the grade of olive oil matter? And if so, how do the different grades burn? Also, I have an idea myself. What if chaffing fuel was used to heat it from the bottom and outer edge of the can instead? It burns for a long time and maintains a stout blue flame itself. I've been finding that this sort of thing works best with gel fuels, as they were intended to gently heat trays on a buffet table. In essence, it's just "chaffing" the main fuel and keeping it reasonably hot. I haven't tried this with plant oils yet though. Happy holidays 🥳
Merry Christmas 🎄🎁🎄🎁🎄
Happy Christmas and keep up the great content 👍
Now that reinforced my already high Christmas spirit right off. I'm feeling all Charles Dickensonish. Merry Christmas Dr. Smith. Please Sir, may we have some more? You should have been wearing old period clothes. Cheers mates.
And if you need a bigger lantern, there's always a lighthouse ;)