Wait, is Dusty Baker KICKING JP France to the CURB?? | ESPN Houston

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  • Justin Verlander is back in town, which would seem to lend itself to a six man rotation. Looking at the pitcher breakdown, is Dusty keeping it to a five man rotation, and replacing France with Urquidy??
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  • @blachloch1
    @blachloch1 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    No way France should be replaced by Urquidy he's been our most reliable pitcher.

  • @pagemcgilvray3742
    @pagemcgilvray3742 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    A six man rotation would be ideal.

    • @bobbygetsbanned6049
      @bobbygetsbanned6049 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Javier needs some rest, I'd rather him skip at least 1 start before they go 6 man.

    • @scubasteve1803
      @scubasteve1803 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Atari26 he won cy young on a 6 man rotation last year

    • @guywebster8018
      @guywebster8018 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@scubasteve1803 fair point 👆

  • @chrisc8002
    @chrisc8002 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Move Javier to the bullpen for a month

    • @DubCmusicTV
      @DubCmusicTV ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Agree

    • @dek779
      @dek779 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bingo

    • @cheyenne11114
      @cheyenne11114 ปีที่แล้ว

      You're going to throw a guy who at times as shown absolute dominance in the bullpen? We're talkin about dominance in the playoffs. A young starting pitcher. Jose got to go to the bullpen if that's the case. No way should we be moving Javier anywhere

    • @wok9524
      @wok9524 ปีที่แล้ว

      That’s where has was originally, he didn’t come to the team as a starter. With sped up pitching this year he may be tweaking his mechanics, going too quickly or too slow, it’s the little things when pitching at such an elite level. I fw moving him to bp tho #gostros

    • @bobbygetsbanned6049
      @bobbygetsbanned6049 ปีที่แล้ว

      I wish Dusty would have pulled him after the 6th last game. I think 6 scoreless was an opportunity to give him a confidence boost, which of course Crusty had to fuck up. BP might be a good option for him to build his confidence back too.

  • @TheMattJacks
    @TheMattJacks ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Javier needs to go to long relief and work out his kinks. JP is our most CONSISTENT guy. QS just about every time. He keeps us in games. If Crusty sidelines him, I'll call JB and tell him to fire away.

    • @cheyenne11114
      @cheyenne11114 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just let him work his kinks out in a six-man rotation. In no way shape or form should we take a guy who was a dark horse for the f****** cy young and has shown absolute dominance at times including in the playoffs in the bullpen

    • @bobbygetsbanned6049
      @bobbygetsbanned6049 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cheyenne11114 It doesn't matter how good he was or what people thought he would do this season, something is obviously wrong with him. We can't keep giving up games letting him try to work it out as a starter while we are fighting for a damn wild card slot. We need wins and if that means Javier to the pen then he needs to go to the fucking pen. I'd rather give him some rest, skip a start or 2 with Beilak and Urquidy splitting every 5th start, but pitching from the BP is a good option too.

    • @TheMattJacks
      @TheMattJacks ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cheyenne11114 It is a low leverage temporary tactic, very commonly used. If he gets a few 1-2-3-4-5-6 2 inning outings with like 4 or 5k, he gets confidence back. Then he comes back to the rotation. I dont give 2 shits about predictions. Its all biased guessing. Dark Horse cy candidate has an ERA deserving of no dollars. His FiP and xFIP show he has been lucky, too. He IS fantastic, but his head is broken atm, and a change could really set him up to dominate as a #3 SP. Maybe #4.

    • @cheyenne11114
      @cheyenne11114 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheMattJackshe has a 2.20 era when the light shines the brightest. When the playoff hit he has been nothing but money and I don't care what your xim has to say about that LOL. Moving a twenty-six-year-old young stud with nice stuff to the bullpen without even discussing it with him is absolutely ridiculous. And you say his head is broken but just two starts against the rays he allowed a three-run homerun in the first inning and then went on the pitch 5 more scoreless innings while striking out nine. They move him to the bullpen it could destroy his confidence so to call it low leverage is absolutely insane. I mean let's be clear about this we're talkin about a twenty-six-year-old with a 2.20 era in the playoffs.

  • @scottwaldo
    @scottwaldo ปีที่แล้ว +10

    If dusty sidelines JP, we in HOUSTON riot.

    • @bobbygetsbanned6049
      @bobbygetsbanned6049 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Exactly dude, we have dealt with way too much of Dusty's shenanigans already. This crap has to stop, you don't send your second best starting pitcher to the bullpen.

  • @CB-ny6tu
    @CB-ny6tu ปีที่แล้ว +1

    - Valdez
    - Verlander
    - JP
    - Brown
    - Javier

  • @scottyc1093
    @scottyc1093 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    France is 2 good games from qualifying and he has the 4th best ERA in the majors. Something doesn't add up at all. I think we can all see the one pitcher that does need to go down and get his head right and France ain't him.

  • @gladprokiller7207
    @gladprokiller7207 ปีที่แล้ว

    They don't wanna cook his arm like Garcia in 2021. His arm was soo done by the time post season started. They is trying to keep JP's arm fresh since he is approaching his career high of innings

  • @gabrielsantana7895
    @gabrielsantana7895 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    why you guys always crying about what dusty does, didn't we get a ring? aren't we in the playoffs picture as right now?

    • @cheyenne11114
      @cheyenne11114 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They have one of the deepest teams in baseball. A kangaroo would have them in the playoff race. Chas McCormick, sucking on the team in ops and absolutely tearing it up with a 280 some-odd batting average and a great glove in centerfield, is platooning and batting seventh. Diaz, an up-and-coming young catcher hitting 2.70 with power is not the main catcher. He had Kyle Tucker, a guy with 2525 ability who can hit for average, hitting fifth and sixth last season. He had no issues hitting Alvarez, one of the most feared hitters in the league, 5th for a while. This is getting tiresome

    • @brice6018
      @brice6018 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@cheyenne11114 last year you said he couldn't win a ring now anyone can, make up your mind lol

    • @cheyenne11114
      @cheyenne11114 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@brice6018 when did I say he couldn't win a ring? I'm an Astros fan and they have been perennial favorites for half a decade. The old fuck needs his meds

    • @gabrielsantana7895
      @gabrielsantana7895 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      we had a deep team with the last manager and we didn't wow a championship @cheyenne11114

    • @cheyenne11114
      @cheyenne11114 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@gabrielsantana7895 yes we did, 2017 lol. What specifically do you think that Dusty has done that has led to championships? Who has he brought in or what rotations has he implemented that you think absolutely led to a chip? Was Atlanta somehow not his fault but Philadelphia was some kind of massive win for him?. At the end of the day baseball managers aren't that much different than any other coach. They can have a nice positive impact on the team but they affect the losing way more than they affect winning. Especially whenever you have this much talent. If you're asserting that other managers couldn't win with Kyle Tucker, Jose altuve, yordon, JV, framber and A deep ass bullpen then you're out of your mind. No excuse for hitting Tucker 5th and sixth all year last year with very little line up protection to take advantage of him stealing bases. No excuse for running Maldi as much as they do this season. There is no excuse for chas McCormick platooning. He should be in the lineup every day hitting fifth or sixth. If you're going to respond then you better address the reasons why doing any of these things is acceptable, or go back to licking Dusty's Old salty chocolate balls.

  • @jesusacosta5176
    @jesusacosta5176 ปีที่แล้ว

    No way France should be replace in the rotation. He has kept the Astros afloat.

  • @steely_Bob
    @steely_Bob ปีที่แล้ว

    Urquidy should be long reliever

  • @BAGWELL90
    @BAGWELL90 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Holy Shit guys, enough with the commercials every 2 minutes! There is no flow! Stop it!

  • @glenchilada
    @glenchilada ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dusty being Dusty. Dude has made a managerial career off of OP rosters covering his cluelessness.

  • @walterheisenberg251
    @walterheisenberg251 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    JP is available out of the pen on Sunday because Urquidy probably isn’t going too far. And it’s good to limit JP’s innings anyway. With the way he’s been pitching, I’d be shocked if France is the odd man out here.

  • @Bnguyen276
    @Bnguyen276 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    No way, verlander back boys. France been pitching good

  • @guywebster8018
    @guywebster8018 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is a great problem to have. Now if our offense can pull its head out its bootwah we will be ok.

  • @bennapier1897
    @bennapier1897 ปีที่แล้ว

    No, he’s going to the bullpen temporary for Urquidi after the series will probably go to a six man

  • @alyssatran7620
    @alyssatran7620 ปีที่แล้ว

    Javier should be going to the bullpen

  • @shawnelmore8970
    @shawnelmore8970 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    France is listed after urquidy against Baltimore

  • @neliasandoval2290
    @neliasandoval2290 ปีที่แล้ว

    And why Pena still in the lineup,He is an automatic out .Dusty needs to put all the strong hitters in the lineup if he wants to at least keep the wild card spot ,cuz we don’t stand a chance to win the division if Dusty continues managing the team the way he is

  • @wadebarney5974
    @wadebarney5974 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think france is 4th in rotation by far

  • @dek779
    @dek779 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How could you take France out who has pitched great and leave Javier who is pitched like trash in? That does sound like a Dusty Baker move though.

    • @cheyenne11114
      @cheyenne11114 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why can't we just make urquidy on his spot back? Javier maybe struggling a bit but I'll remind you that he's a young ass twenty-six-year-old starting pitcher who is 4-1 with a 2.20 era and a bunch of dominating strikeouts in the postseason. When the lights of shine the brightest he has looked unhittable at times. He was a dark horse candidate for the cy young before the season started. You're going to throw his ass in the bullpen?

    • @dek779
      @dek779 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cheyenne11114 Yeah and he always pitches well in Yankee stadium too and he got bombed last night.

    • @brandonhunkin3783
      @brandonhunkin3783 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Because he has never pitched in the majors and the Astros want to limit his innings for his long term health and his strength heading into the post season.

    • @dek779
      @dek779 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@brandonhunkin3783 Long-term health? Lol he's 28

    • @brandonhunkin3783
      @brandonhunkin3783 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dek779 sure but if you can get 5 years without injury that’s a great thing but you want to give him some rest since he hasn’t pitched in the majors before this year and don’t want to overdo it on his arm especially with the team going to the playoffs and asking him for so strong outings there.

  • @pagemcgilvray3742
    @pagemcgilvray3742 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    They should have pinch run for Maldi on 2nd and Altuvi on 1st with Pena up. They should've executed a double steal or had a it and run or bunted the runners over after the pinch runner sub to stay out of a double play.

  • @bobbygetsbanned6049
    @bobbygetsbanned6049 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This wouldn't even be a conversation with any other manager in the league, France has been our 2nd best pitcher this season behind Framber and now he might be in the BP? Dusty's decisions are just comically stupid at this point. Framber, JV, France, HB, Urquidy/Bielak give Javier some rest, then we can go to a 6 man rotation when he starts looking better.

  • @raymondrochajr9621
    @raymondrochajr9621 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well I'm not looking forward to McCullers coming back and taking a slot in the pitching rotation!
    They need to put him in the bullpen to start out with! And I feel they need to trade Lance for an upgrade!

  • @Matthew-gp3wo
    @Matthew-gp3wo ปีที่แล้ว

    Keep France. Six man rotation move Javier to the bullpen.

  • @softsouthernknight
    @softsouthernknight ปีที่แล้ว

    Astros need a swift kick in the Ass. They need to win 30 staright and close out the season. They are underperforming.

  • @DubCmusicTV
    @DubCmusicTV ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like Javier pitching every other game or so for two innings each time.

  • @alejandroalvarado6450
    @alejandroalvarado6450 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dusty better keep JPF

  • @TheWavyWorldOfJuice
    @TheWavyWorldOfJuice ปีที่แล้ว

    Javier needs to be in the pen in again on some long relief appearances. But replacing jp w urquidy is a joke .

  • @sagittariusemperor9692
    @sagittariusemperor9692 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Dusty the dam clown 🤡 will always find a way to mess thing up and he will find a way to make things even worse. He will also find a way to lose a game. He should have been fired 2 months ago !!!!!!!

    • @jkorshak
      @jkorshak ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Reigning word series champions and despite the injuries, one game out of the division lead to start August. Dusty is fine.

    • @sagittariusemperor9692
      @sagittariusemperor9692 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@jkorshak Actually the Astros should have a 10 game lead over the Rangers if it wasn't for Dustys ridiculous decisions in making the lineups and bringing in the wrong relievers to lose games.

    • @jkorshak
      @jkorshak ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@sagittariusemperor9692 Who are you to measure every tangible and intangible to determine what "should" be but isn't? You're an amateur baseball fan, bless your heart.

    • @bobbygetsbanned6049
      @bobbygetsbanned6049 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jkorshak Dusty has lost us at least 10 games by going to Maton and Montero in high leverage situations lmao. If it wasn't for Crusty's dumb ass we wouldn't be 1 game out, we would be 9 ahead!

    • @jkorshak
      @jkorshak ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bobbygetsbanned6049 Yeah, so you say. Except you have no clue what would have happened otherwise. If you can be so sure one arm should have been used than another, how do you explain wins when those arms ARE used? How are you so certain if one pitcher was used instead of another, neither of those pitchers would have been injured or shelled the next time they went out? You got a toxic narrative made out of whole cloth because you hate Dusty Baker. Team likes him. Fans like him. Crane likes him. Get over it.

  • @Rickdonculous
    @Rickdonculous ปีที่แล้ว +1

    He's gonna have a 6 man rotation

  • @neliasandoval2290
    @neliasandoval2290 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dusty really wants to lose division,Urquidy is not a good pitcher send him to the bullpen.

  • @frostysnowflakeee
    @frostysnowflakeee ปีที่แล้ว

    France is just going in the bullpen for one game in the case Urquidy gets blown up early to prevent stretching an already thin bullpen.

  • @jkorshak
    @jkorshak ปีที่แล้ว +1

    God, your headlines and all the sensationalist drama. I get it - you want/need clicks and traffic but it's still bush league.

    • @brice6018
      @brice6018 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's exactly what it is, its disgusting

  • @matt_h_27
    @matt_h_27 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dusty is clueless. I’m not surprised by any of his stupid decisions anymore

  • @nyfan9215
    @nyfan9215 ปีที่แล้ว

    France can never be a baseball nation , they love their football ⚽

  • @akiyajapan
    @akiyajapan ปีที่แล้ว

    Montero still scares me. I'm not a believer yet.

  • @DalonCole
    @DalonCole ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’m pretty sure Dusty knows what he is doing. His baseball track record is pretty impressive. The people speculating and second guessing Dusty can’t manage to take a leak without kissing on their hands

    • @paulsbunions8441
      @paulsbunions8441 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah dude that's why he had McCormick riding the bench and continues to start a catcher who is objectively worse in every metric to Diaz lmao

  • @jamescarter7902
    @jamescarter7902 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think Houston should plan a strike at minute maid park to get Dusty fired.

    • @bobbygetsbanned6049
      @bobbygetsbanned6049 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'd love that, I'd join.

    • @brice6018
      @brice6018 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Why so we can bring back cheating hinch

    • @susantownsend8397
      @susantownsend8397 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’ll take your tickets 😂😂😂

    • @ZzzBliss
      @ZzzBliss ปีที่แล้ว

      No. Dusty is a legend your just a random fan who is a poor representation of our fan base. You sound like one of those "fans" who only rooted for the Astros when they were winning and talked mad shit about them during rebuild.

    • @TheLastBlackJaguar
      @TheLastBlackJaguar ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I just want a Dusty fans day for every fan that attends be able to kick Dusty right in the nuts 😂😂😂😂😂

  • @susantownsend8397
    @susantownsend8397 ปีที่แล้ว

    They said tonight he was going to be in the bullpen. I’d rather see a 6 man rotation.

  • @Truckerdaddy
    @Truckerdaddy ปีที่แล้ว

    Urquidy should be a short starter and put Javier in the pen to try and get his stuff worked out

    • @cheyenne11114
      @cheyenne11114 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just let him get his stuff worked out in the situation that he likes. He has been shown to be a completely dominating sp at times when the lights were the brightest and is still young. I swear to God if Dusty Baker and stupid ass Astros who follow everything he wants to do screw up a Cristian Javier, who was a dark horse preseason cy Young award candidate, I'm going to blow my f****** top LOL

    • @bobbygetsbanned6049
      @bobbygetsbanned6049 ปีที่แล้ว

      Urquidy and Beilak can both split the 5th start with Javier in the pen. I'd go with that plan.

    • @jamesroberts1810
      @jamesroberts1810 ปีที่แล้ว

      Belak has been sent down ..don't know how its gonna be

  • @michaelhotz7118
    @michaelhotz7118 ปีที่แล้ว

    That is a resounding NO.

  • @justineverett8501
    @justineverett8501 ปีที่แล้ว

    Naw we keep Jp france

  • @mirzajawaidbaig5850
    @mirzajawaidbaig5850 ปีที่แล้ว

    He is better than Urquidy.

  • @juniorgarcia9292
    @juniorgarcia9292 ปีที่แล้ว

    urquidy is not that good

  • @TexasTagz
    @TexasTagz ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dusty acting like Lovie rn

    • @ZzzBliss
      @ZzzBliss ปีที่แล้ว

      Stop the Dusty hating he's a legend and every player who plays for him, loves him. Humble thy self for real.

    • @TexasTagz
      @TexasTagz ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ZzzBliss he’s a diva

  • @jac18
    @jac18 ปีที่แล้ว

    Urquidy is no good. Leave France in, but at this point it won't matter. This season is done. They are going nowhere. At this point my bet is on them not making it.

  • @eldwdubu6968
    @eldwdubu6968 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is BS this channel always try to be negative about Dusty. John Granato absolutely hates Dusty. 😊