Pi-Fi! A $200 TOUCHSCREEN streamer for Spotify, Tidal & Roon
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0:00 Intro
0:40 What you need
2:22 Hardware assembly
5:19 Roon w/ RoPieee
9:35 Touchy-feely
12:58 Spotify & Tidal w/ Volumio
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Raspberry Pi 4:
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Thank you for taking the time to put this information together...it really is helpful to people who aren't that tech savvy.. much appreciated 🙏.
The biggest issue is currently finding Raspberry Pi's, they're currently as scarce as rocking horse ****
Really enjoyed this set up . Love to see John work like a technician. Cheers . Let the screen be there John .
I built something similar and used a HiFiberry hat with this case. I did have to modify the case slightly to allow the coax out to fit the case. I’m also using a usb splitter with one power supply for the screen and the RPi. It’s a pretty cool setup.
A big fan of the versatility of Raspberry Pi, I have one powering my home entertainment system using Plex and another one powering my smart home using Home Assistant. Thanks to you, I will now using one to compliment my audio streaming too!
You just made me nostalgic for my modded Squeezebox Touch. Great little gadget and my first proper streamer.
Gone up in the world now with an Aries G2 feeding a Terminator Plus but, as they say, you never forget your first, especially the excitement of having all the music all the time at the touch of a screen.
Sweet. I now have added this to my setup. Also added a Flirc receiver and now can control next/previous from the system remote. Awesome!
You rock, John Darko! I love, love, love (🔥🔥🔥) the way you pingpong between the megabucks high end gear and the down and dirty low end DIY thing!
Love those Pi video, always amazed by all the things people have made for use on those small computers, very entertaining.
4:56 you can use usb drive for your OS so you can change it easily with usb ports on a side of the case
To reduce the number of power cables, use the jumper cables with the display. Use a power supply that provides atleast 3amps 5v on the usb C and the power low message will go away.
Great video. Very well set out. Can see this being popular one for views for you and over a long period of time.
Totally enjoyed that. Fascinating.
Great video John, Smart pi touch pro case, allo Digi one hat, with a standard pi 4 power supply works great. The case comes with a splitter. I never get a low power and one cord. Dead silent with ropieee and controlled with roodial and a PC.
Cool little project,, 🥰.
Cheers and thanks John,, 🍻😎👍.
John this was a great video 👍 it’s interesting and something different than a standard equipment review more of a cool DIY the results are awesome 🔥💯thank you
Glad to see a shout out for black country new road. A true "music first audiophile" record.
Nice ! Will there be an audio review of the Pi-Fi ? It will be interesting to learn about the sound quality, and how it compares with other streamers or HATs.
Nice video, love it, great project for my son and I.
I'm using this setup for a while now. I power the screen from the Pi with a IFI AUDIO IPOWER2 power supply. Work great.
Dac as his own power supply tough
Ants From Up There is such a brilliant album, happy to see you're enjoying it too
Excellent video. Love seeing the Pi variants you create.
Do you happen to know if Apple Music is supported on volumio or something similar?
Nice.
I packaged up my Squeezebox Touch and put it back in the box after replacing it on my bedside table with a touchscreen & pi & dac hat, because they were more stable and capable than the squeezebox. I tried volumio, but switched to PiCore player after not being able to get volumio to access files on the LMS server in the basement. I always suspected that volumio could read an LMS server elsewhere on the network, but could never find out how to make it work (there's lots of info on making the volumio be an LMS server, I could not find any for volumio as an LMS client).
Really cool video, thanks. One thing you may find interesting is you can now change the pi to boot from usb instead of sd card. You can then us either a usb stick or a microsd card with a USB adapter and it save you having to take it apart if you need to change the OS.
Thanks for the video John! I will build a Streamer like this these days… and your jeans jacket is a awesome 80 look 😎👌
Perfect timing for a project while I’m in two weeks of lockdown. Intend to update my own pi streamer. This one has the hifi berry dac2hd + DSP hats.
2 week loickdown were you from
You got a great attitude. Enjoying about life, what else could be more important?
Plexamp is currently in development for the Raspberry Pi. Plexamp also has Tidal integration.
is it?? That's what I need to hear bc all my music is on plex so I have held off making a pi streamer
@@dutchkel They mention it in the recent change logs.
Hi, nice guide video 👍🏻 Is there eq/tone controls in either RoPieee or in Volumio?
When Volumio incorporated Tidal Connect last year I got an Allo Usbridge. After some ups and downs the most recent versions of Volumio allow my phone Tidal app to control my streaming perfectly. I don't know if it would even be possible to add a screen to a Usbridge Signature, but my phone basically does the same in the palm of my hand.
i built something very similar about 5 years ago with a hifiberry dac+ lite (it had to be a lite because the non lite version uses i2c and clashes with the screen. i only used 1 power supply, a 5.5v 6a power brick w/leads soldered directly to the gpio. it powers all units flawlessly without the current limiting of the poly fuse. running osmc/kodi with a custom skin/build.i also had to flip the screen and touch interface 180 degrees but it had to be done in the boot config file. main use is for pandora and internet radio and streaming from my own media server while working in the shop. very reliable unit.
If you have issues with Balena Etcher, Raspberry Pi main mage has a fantastic sd card formatter that puts whatever o/s you prefer and you can use a large sd card.
Can this be used to select music, or do you still need another device for that? Personally, I'd vastly prefer a dedicated touch device to select and control Roon vs. my phone (or desktop, etc). They're cheap enough that I could attach them to most of my end points which would allow other folks in the house to select/play music.
Bravo Darko
Great review...
I spy a Rega P8 in the background!
One problem with volumio is if you play dsd files it has an issue switching from pcm to dsd. Other than that it’s a great solution not only for spotify but also your music library.
There is a popular DAC that goes with the Raspberry Pi called the HifiBerry.
thank you great vid awesome content :)
Thanks for this upload. I'll dabble on Raspberry Pi. Currently I have an iPad. This iPad is connected to an HDMI Audio Extractor. Extractor is connected to Receiver via Optical. HDMI Audio Extractor's are plenty in Amazon. I bought one for $35 USD.
this is really cool...
Nice!
I love my Pi 4 with the Allo DigiOne Signature HAT. I'm only disappointed that streaming Qobuz is almost impossible with Moode, have to pay extra with Volumio or other options are way too complicated.
I also enjoyed this
Don’t know what it is about you doing the building and explanation of these things but they’re super relaxing. I’d be happy if you made a second channel just for building stuff ha
Showing how to put together all the IKEA KALLAX units would be nice....LOL...
Another great video. I had an original Squeezebox. It died. Miss it. I eventually, with the help of my geeky son in law, moved to Pi's, first with Volumio but eventually went to Diet Pi, using the Logitech Media Software. I added Qobuz. I've had an Allo USBridge for several years, running everything, but at my age of 66, I've been thinking of simplifying and throwing out my preamp, streamer, DAC etc for an NAD C658. I also really want to try Dirac, and this looks like an easy way. But, still, here's another great option, and I'm sure I could even throw Diet PI with LMS and Qobuz in it, and truck on down the road. I had been thinking of going back to a stock Pi. Gives me pause. It's a great time to be into audio. Except for the delays. 😉
Hello! Great review! Tell me, is there a good external DAC, does it make sense to use a linear power supply for a raspberry streamer with a hi-fi coax and toslink digital output board only?
It's all so convoluted. I stream tidal from my phone via a node 2i and that crashes/fails to connect/gets stuck regularly. I imagine this setup Darko is proposing will also fail/crash/freeze regularly........so much work and potential for frustration to simply listen to music!
I like Johns approach to audio. Why not using an old iPad for now playing screen and get rid of all the wires?
awesome video! i want to use spotify connect. i take it that the 2gb $129.00 will work or is bump up to 4gb $184.90?
Whoa someone else listens to a place to bury strangers! Nice
hi John
great video
do you know is there any software that you can amazon music for this setup
I use Volumio and it works well. At the time I did it I didn’t see the option to fix the upside down display.
Love this idea. When the Raspberry Pi 4 4GB comes down to its normal $55 USD price instead of the current $200 I'll consider building one. Curious how the USB output of a Pi 4 compares to the Lightning port of a "decent" late model Apple iPAD as you used in a previous video? Great video by the way. Loved the presentation and clear instructions. Not getting bogged down installing all those additional jumper wires in order to power the assembly with one PSU would make it far easier and as you noted, allow it to power an external DAC.
Same - Google Nest is the same price as the touchscreen by itself for me. Will do that with a cast tab on the device.
awesome. is there a way to use my tv as a display for volumio/tidal connect?
Amazing!!. Dude can you tell me what would it be the cheapest option to have tidal connect?i have a onkyo reciever and it's the only thing missing function for me.. I have raspberry also but volumio now it's expensive for only tidal connect function.. Thanks in advance!
You can add a usb/ remote and will make it usefull since the remote works with Wi-Fi
Is there a "power off" built into the case? Or do you have to connect the cables?
All I need is Airplay 2 on my gear and Apple Music. My IPhone, IPad and Apple Watch all have touchscreen’s and can control my streaming.
You know you can add a Fire Tablet as a now playing display in Roon - great value when on sale.
Is there a reason to power the Pi and the screen independently rather than using the internal connection to feed the Pi power from the display board?
Almost 300 bucks. Getting close to Bluesound Node
@John
Why not use an old LG phone with bit perfect USB out to your external DAC? Touch screen + any app you'd like for the same price or cheaper
For 200 usd I can get a good tablet
Any chance you can do a comparison video on all of the different DAC HATs? Many choices, but hard to find comparisons.
Nice but I think i will just continue to use my iPad as my touch screen as then i can control Roon etc from my sitting location.
Mh. Now I feel torn because I don't need it, but it looks good fun to build it... :D
with a "nad wireless usb dac 1" it would be an extra portable solution.😊
Pretty sure you can use the raspberry pie config file to flip the screen so you don’t have to fix things in the streaming app set up.
Ya'll should try Moode Audio, to me it's the best sounding for Roon and local files.
And works better than Volumio to play files from an external drive
Hey....what about PiCore player and Logitech Media Server.... They are Free and better. Also snakeoil server with Logitech Media sever is the best sounding server solution.
Can i use my android phone as remote with your setup?
cool
The The Giant is awesome!
Can You help me? What is better? Topping DX3 Pro or combo Topping E30 + Topping L30?
How does the Raspberry compare to a Roon Rock on an Intel NUC - sound wise?
What's the main advantage to build and use these Pi configurations, compared with using a standard tablet (iPadOS or Android) with a DAC?
...anyone?
Exactly what I was wondering too
this is to stream via the Wi Fi. So basically you don't need to plug in your ipad, you can just connect to your wi-fi, play a song then the streamer will convert the signal into your speakers wirelessly.
There's not a price or function advantage to doing something like compared just buying a fire tablet.
But you're doing it yourself, however you see fit for various design decisions. You're doing a lot of it yourself, learning a lot along the way, and probably (most definitely) making mistakes. But that's the point!
If your dac is wired to other equipment e.g.stereo your ipad/tablet is limited to it's wired connection to dac? With RPI doing the streaming you're free to use the tablet in any room and still control the music via whatever app. you use.
Ok as a Spotify user there is an easier way to have it on a Display. I Start Spotify on my Smartphone and Tablet. Than i connect my Smartphone over Spotify Connect with my Yamaha Receiver. I can now Play Spotify on my Receiver over my Phone and see the Interface on my Tablet. Works great!!!!!!!
Is there a compatible 10-inch screen? I wouldn't mind a bigger display
Using my 65" Sony OLED TV + NVidia Shield ($200) + Schiit Modi Multibit DAC ($250) going to an AMP for Hi-Fi goodness. Android TV OS can do Plex / KODI / VLC / Amazon Music with USB out from the Shield TV Pro.
Volumio is a nice polished OS for the Pi, but I really don't like the subscription model for what is essentially a pretty UI.
I have a pi which is running Spotify connect, MPD, Airplay 2, Tidal Connect (MQA) and a few other functions. It's headless (so no screen).
It's not quite as plug and play as Volumio, but all of the features that Volumio lock behind a premium subscription fee are readily available for the pi to install for free.
I like tinkering and have a few Raspberry Pis and BananaPis here...but I don't quite understand this use case scenario (aside from Roon, at least for spotify Connect etc.) yet. Why shouldn't I just use an iPad Mini or similar and save myself all the fiddling?
nice video, I just remembered I'm not an electronic engineer 😁
Don't deny it, we're here from the Car Thing drama
Tidal Connect via Volumio didn’t see to output MQA for me. Any others see a similar issue?
Does this act as a Chromecast receiver?
Also, does it have HDMI input and pass-through? Thanks!
my PCIe port is used for nvme, is there a good usb-c touch screen with a nice stand for this?
What’s the brand/ model of the power outlet as seen at 5:19? Cheers /Joakim
I wanted to build one but I'm from South East Asia and everything seems hard to get. Was wondering if there is anyone have a fully built up version that can let off to me. Thank you very much.
Using the phone allows you to use the phone mic for search , type?
Speaking of hat based players, is it possible to get a screen to a player like Allo Boss2 Player or Allo Katana Player by using the micro HDMI port on the RPI? thanks.
I'm not 100% certain but think hdmi might not work for touchscreens, I.e.you could output signal to the display but not receive touch commands back to the RPI.
Not helped that the PIs ribbon connector for screens (used to/still?) only work for the official Raspberry screen, crazy IMO. So with dac hats using key pins getting aftermarket screens attached/connected was a challenge I had - solution for me was RpI3 + IQuadio dac hat + DFRobot USB 2.8" touchscreen (ironically I rarely control the unit via the screen). The screen sends/receives signals and takes it's power via one USB cable to the RPI. This was set up in 2018 so options may have changed since then but my set up is still running today using LMS, Jivelite and Squeezer for multi-room music via main hifi and 2 Logitech SqueezeBox players. Jivelite I tweaked as std coding didn't cater for 2.8" screen
This is too complicated for me 😅
ill stick with my smartphone as streamer
Love this! Your first Pi Video introduced me to PicCore Player and have been hooked ever since. I hope you continue to make these type of tutorials with a little bit more love to PiCore Player. Keep up the good work as always. Did you by any chance meet Pete Kember while in Lisbon?
I don't understand the reason to power separately the screen and the pi, it would not be better to have only one power cable?
Thanks John, enjoy your videos a lot. Can anyone speak to using Apple Music hi-res with this or a similar software on pi? I’ve built a retropie so shouldn’t all that different, I just don’t know what OS would do the trick.
Android TV, then install the Apple Music app
Will the pi work with the screen and the allo digione?
Surprised but loved seeing the college dropout is getting played at the Darko house - always interested in your music tastes, any other hip hop albums in your rotation at the moment?
Hi, do You plan to review Wiim Mini on video by any chance maybe? Super convenient device for the price, especially when raspberry is so hard to get now.
Yeah, I needed a low-cost streamer for the den. Thought of a Pi but they are non-existent here in the U.S. (or going for 4X their usual price), so I bought the WIIM Mini. Works perfectly fine with Tidal Connect, especially since the firmware update to lossless via the Toslink optical output. I'm using it to feed the DAC inside an A/V Receiver and it is working well for that application.
Moode plus Logitech Media Server on my desktop gives me the Tidal experience without any subscription.
Great video. Funny you should hark back to the Squeezebox Touch.... the technology is not quite dead yet! As someone who upgraded to an Innuos server/streamer I can still use my Touch for Now Playing (for music stored locally) and navigation, much like the Pi-Fi, and also use an IR remote. (I'm not sure if this would work as well, or at all, if the Innuos were configured as a Roon Core; or if it may also work with other server/streamers.)