Some Serious Rot Fixing on my Ocean-Going Catamaran Project
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 เม.ย. 2024
- I want to get my project Wharram Pahi 42 sailing as soon as possible so I can sail to warmer climates and do some more fixing as I go. this toe rail fix should work!
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No one else could make a half hour film about a plank so interesting. Maestro!
Just for information: they're not dowels but what we called plugs. Dowels are used for joining or locating pieces, and the grain is lengthwise for strength. If you use dowels for plugs, you expose the endgrain of the dowel to moisture ingress. Plugs are made with the grain going across the plug and have no strength but can be made to be almost invisible.
Bungs in boating
When you are prying against a damagable surface with a crow or pry bar, Best practice is to use a large backing board (plywood works well) on the surface so you spread out the load and don't damage, crack or punch a hole in the fiberglass surface.
Cheers, Mate from Canada
Drill a 3mm hole in the bunge until you feel metal then put a screw in the hole to remove the plug way faster, buddy. Happy boating, my friend.
You have 107k viewers who will all thank YOU! We appreciate you doing all the hard work for us to appreciate! Love your journey!
Hang in there pal! There are always dark days when you're working on a project like this. Days when you ask yourself if it's worth it or not, but you're almost there. Just think of the long summer evenings and beautiful bays you'll be anchoring in soon.
There's no real ending where you really think it's done. In the meantime I encourage you to keep the effort this once since you might never live any similar experience. Do the grit now, now is the time to see how far you can go and it will remain as a new gauge to what you are capable of.
Please keep going, it will for sure be different from what you imagined but you will come out improved, better, maybe not happier but more conscious I think
Markie your gonna drop one of those power tools in the drink one day !
Put a line to them.
Cutting channels in the rubbing straikes , use your circular saw set to the depth . Saves on your router blades .im 61 and still learning !
Good work Mark!
Hey Mark, here is a tip. Make a lanyard and figure out an easy clip mechanism for all of your tools. I attached eyelets to whatever I could and had a wrist strap with a quick clip on the end. This saved me from dropping many of my tools overboard. Even more important when you are working on the boat offshore. Keep up the good work. Cheers.
****YOUR VERY YOUNG..! YOUR WHOLE LIFE IS AHEAD OF YOU MARK .KEEP YOUR CHIN UP ..!!***
Just in case no one else has mentioned it, if you have a soldering iron, you can heat screws embedded in epoxy to make them come out easier.
Another great video, if you ever have to use a grinder like yours without the guard on it , switch the composite cutting blade to a steel/ diamond encrusted blade ,they are inexpensive and importantly they can’t shatter/explode like composite blades
Fantastic episode as usual!
When I watch certain other Catamaran channels and the new large cats they're ordering as replacements for perfectly adequate boats, I often wonder if their subscribers realise they're paying?!
With you Mark, you come across as such a genuine person, almost as if you can't quite believe people will support your endeavours & so incredibly greatful when people do. I will be eternally thankful for your efforts, having had to hang up my seaboots relatively early because of a back injury.
Keep up the amazing work & I know your subscriber base will continue to expand.
Best of luck etc!!!
It's probably the most depressing winter in my 20 years in Amsterdam, Mark. I'm glad I've been able to get out of there for a lot of it. Well done for sticking with it.
you're doing great man , wont be too long you will be going to where the butter melts , keep safe and well we all got yer back .
With the rail securing screws ...you can get bolt hex headed screws with posi heads ..so easier to drive in and remove if they get tight.
You are the king of patience! Thanks for the inspiration.
You are just an amazing young man following his dreams and thank you for taking us along!
Why do I find these videos so therapeutic ?🤷🏻♂️ thanks mark & well done for living your dream 👍
Yours is one of the very few channels where I enjoy watching someone doing work. I don't know if it's your can do attitude and overall personality. Maybe it's your editing skills, but it works for me.
Considering the way that the boat had been neglected for many years IMO it has lasted remarkably well.
The longer days and warmer and (hopefully) drier weather are coming soon.
Your success is well deserved.
Thanks so much mate!
Funny, I was thinking the same while watching but forgot to mention in my comment. A humble disposition, unafraid of hard work, working with your hands and very good to your parents. A very good example of a young man.
get an impact driver , its worth it when dealing with these issues.
Was also going to suggest an impact driver. That will really save your wrists when trying to back out that many screws! It will also make driving new screws much easier. My impact driver is probably one of my most used tools.
This👆 it’s like magic on stuck rusty screws
Second this idea 😊. An impact driver would be a great addition to the tool kit ❤
Agree, awesome tool!
Yes great advice..
A military as you already have the batteries and charger..
You can get the stand alone tool at a very reasonable price
Hang in there bro!!!!
And when in doubt
DUCT TAPE EVERYTHING !!!
When the weather passes
Get out the epoxy!!
Everting gonna be alright!!👍
+1 on duct tape over the making tape to keep the rain out....
Mark, your work is getting better and better technically especially the wood work. When you are doing epoxy work like today, try putting or when shaping the epoxy use a v small roller painter tray to collect excess. You can then use metal scraper to remove reapply and shape and collect excess to reuse instead of your hands. Will make the job less messy.
Come for the Music; stay for the Amazing videos!!! Mark, you just Rock!!!
Since you’re in the Netherlands, look for books from my friend Henk ter Velde, he sailed around the world about 7 times and his first catamaran was a Wahram.
He’s well known in the Dutch sailor community. Unfortunately Henk passed away otherwise I am sure he’d be helping you. Some of his books are in English also and there are also paintings from his hand.
Ohhh sounds nice!
Honestly man one of my fav shows for the week stoked on each upload!
Great video.
I'm learning stuff from your videos , from the comments of other viewers and yourself also.
I agree Cold cloudy days particularly when you're doing boat work are the pits.
Take care, and hey it's Spring in your part of the world so it can only get better.
Cheers
Just a tip when joining timber,you cut the join the opposite way to what you are doing, so the timber you are fitting goes under the join,not over.
honestly, i've been watching your video's since you purchased that old catamaran, and comparing your skills from then to now.. its amazing at how good you have become. keep it up bro.. your doing a great job, and even more so, your video's are GREAT. :)
Mark great to see you pressing on. Stay where you are and get the mast stepped and engines running, then start your travels to warmer climates.
having good tools, solves 80% of your problems, hope the weather will be in your favor this Spring and Sommer…
You're more than welcome Mark you work really hard.
Love your boat. I helped a young man put together a 40 foot wharram that was apart for 12 years. It was in a bad storm.
Two important tools to add to your collection a jigsaw and an impact driver. The impact driver will allow you to pull out screws, put in screws and with the right adapter to put your sockets on to tighten up nuts and bolts.
Yeah! Yet another Friday with Widling Sailing! You'r "playing" with your puddy and rot and I'm ONLY listening to your music! :-)
Kidding! Great job as usual to bring that Wharram back to the horizon! Thanks for sharing. (Where is mom?)
There is a product out there called 'Git Rot', used to solidify rotten wood then epoxy to fill holes. Rotten wood is penetrated and turned into plastic.
'Git Rot'.
Not suited to be used on a boat!
@@Arnaud58 The Marine equivalent is Everdure, I believe.
Everdure works really well. The problem being ,any moisture left behind will turn to rot. Moisture content needs to be down near 18%..... unless the rot is cut out is hard to get that moisture out....
Mark, your craftsman skills have improved alot and your plan sounds like a great idea. Go south where the weather is nicer and you can get the materials cheaper. You're in a good place to buy quality tools for everything you will need to keep mahi looking better than ever. Even if you have to take some extra fuel and motor occasionally you will definitely be better off south. Perhaps in the same area as Stew and Marina???
Nice. Highly recommend leaving screws in the lashing block. Having a chemical and a mechanical connection is to your advantage vs. chemical alone.
They add nothing of any value and provide a highly efficient path for water ingress. Do the epoxy right and it will never let go. What are a couple of screws going to do if the epoxy were to let go? They would chew right through the wood in minutes to hours due to the insane forces involved.
@@sail4life I would argue that on a Wharram the beam lashings are as important as the chain plates. Just like you said, a couple of screws could give you minutes to hours to make appropriate repairs instead of the beam separating from the beam pocket, from the insane forces. In heavy seas that could be catastrophic. Never ever trust glue/epoxy alone in areas where extreme sheer loads are possible and when your safety could be compromised. I am not implying that a couple of screws is the ideal solution either, it's a better than not proposition. Take appropriate measures to prevent water ingress, drill-fill-drill and through-bolt.
@@joelbrown4110 well, actually properly done epoxy doesn't give way to any loads the wood itself can handle. In all tests ever the wood is the one giving up first. Not a layer of epoxy. Pieces which are properly glued with epoxy are actually behaving as a single piece of wood, as the bond is chemical as well as mechanical. Epoxy resin penetrates wood - providing an extremely strong bonding.
@@MonikaMatis Quite frankly, I am surprised that there is a debate on this subject. I made a recommendation from my own experiences and knowledge of the behavior of wood and adhesives. You can disregard and debate this if you wish but I would not risk the safety of myself and my crew over any thing I can do to enhance safety. You are correct, epoxy can be an excellent adhesive in the right conditions. The weak point is not the epoxy. We are talking about GRP or other composites designed to resist sheer loads. It is as you have hinted the wood and how the grain structure, and how the physics of sheer loads work. If you apply the sheer load at 90 degrees from grain direction you will have reached the woods maximum resistance against this load. But, when you apply that load parallel to the grain that wood can split with very little effort. Just like using a chisel "with" the grain versus "across" the grain. This is why wood dowels can be so effective as their grain structure is 90 degrees to the joining pieces. A rope, as in this case is exerting sheer forces, and subjected to rotational sawing movement as designed and intended by Wharram. This movement and load can create a wedge effect and split that wood along its grain structure. I couple of screws, or better yet through bolts, could easily add a hundred pounds or more of compression force perpendicular to grain direction holding the grain structure together. Let's all agree that doing anything we can do to keep ourselves safe is the right answer. Please see @slacker2101 comment below. Same thing in this case. ✌Keep plugging away at it Mark, you will get there.
@@MonikaMatis Thanks for making my point for me. If the wood splits down a growth ring, epoxy is not going to stop it failing. It doesn't matter how viscus the epoxy is it will not fully impregnate the wood of the thickness that Mark is using, so there is a possibility of a growth ring failure. A mechanical fastener is the only way of penetrating this wood fully. Screws also provide compressive strength that you will never get from epoxy. Press two fingers together lightly and have a friend try to split them apart. The harder you compress your fingers together, the more difficult it is to separate them. In this case the rope can act as a wedge and split that wood.
Hi Mark to remove those bungs drill a pilot hole in the center then run a screw in it should push the bung out :))
They should have been sealed with epoxy so that won't work. Using a flat ended drill like one for spot welds should take it out in one go.
@@delukxy They should not be sealed with epoxy, but with a linseed-oil based varnish.
But though not as easy, it still works with the epoxy glued ones. I've never had a problem with it.
Have you gone over that whole boat with a moisture meter ? It will tell you what is wet and thereby rotting . Stuff you may be able to catch before too late and or stop the water getting in , and where dry it will give you confidence .
That would mean poking or drilling many, many holes trough the epoxy layers... Bad advice in my book.
@@Arnaud58true…but still better than leaving sealed in moisture
@@markthomasson5077 The old fashioned way, knock and listen.
I have a similar constructed catamaran…with similar problems.
I would not work without using the meter. Ok it is not particularly accurate, but that doesn’t matter. It does indicate whether dry or saturated. And you don’t wont to seal in moisture
Have been following you and your videos for a long time. It's always great viewing. Keep pushing forward with what you do.
Impressed with your determination and ability to
progress the work and deal with the problems as you find them. Well done you👍
Happy to see you picking a new piece of wood and dowels. It's the right way.
I felt a lot better once you took out the drill to remove the screws ha ha ha ha👏👏👏❤️
Thank you for replacing that wood, it was the right decision.
At this point, opening this Pandora's box demands a brave heart. Good job!
Great to see you soaking wood in epoxy before fitting future self will be chuffed. Some really nice work.
Mark, thanks for another great video. I lived in and around Amsterdam for 5 years and while I think The Netherlands is a great country and the Dutch people are just as nice as can be, the weather was crap. I understand completely how you feel about the winter. I am currently in Oregon, USA and it is cold and rainy and I have been over the winter for quite some time now. Spring can't come soon enough. So go south young man, go south. I hope you can make it this year and can get situated somewhere nice. Cheers!
Well just to say that this particular renovation of the bump rails gives me the impression of a big step forward because of the stage of repair of the boat. It’s a big step forward. I am very happy for you Mark. It’s great to witness this well done. Enjoying seeing your steady progress. I get a lot of inspiration and the day you post these is perfect at the end of the week as I wind down for my rest day. Your project is really cool, have always liked the Warrams ever since first learning of them. Mine is a music production project much different but for some reason I really enjoy watching someone progress with a boat restoration adventure.
You can use a heat gun to help dry the wood just don’t get to close and move it back and forth like spay painting. Glad you added lights behind the skateboard it look awesome 👍🍻
that's a great little router you got yourself I use mine so much 👍
It’s great isn’t it!
I still rate your channel above all the others. Boat life on a shoe string. In the 1980s I met some French punks who were living on a 40 ft yacht in the Caribbean . I would describe them as sea gypsys .
LOL, I was just about to say "Good God man get the power driver out when removing all those screws" and .... up pops the power tools! 😊 hang in there Mark "one day" all this cold, damp hard work will be behind you. Cheers mate ..... 👍
I notice you don't have a safety strap on your drill. I worked a lot up ladders and found it invaluable to have a wrist strap on my drill, easily made from a length of paracord, small loop knotted around the handle big loop around your wrist. It would save you dropping it in the drink.
Brother I envy you and so happy for you. You said you don't want to spend another winter in the north, then work on the tings that matter. You said that as you where doing small work that doesn't even matter. Maybe you had some other blockage that you needed to wait for and was doing other work in the mean time. But be focused brother and do us a favor and get the boat in a state where you can move on to better weather. Living the dream. love. Also,.. girls are coming for you friend. watch out. its going to be great. but don't get stuck, go go go
Don’t lose your spot there in the marina. Stick to it and you will be sailing soon. Your skills and confidence keep improving. Keep up the good work.
The two boat project series I watch here on a regular basis are this one and the Tally Ho restoration project. The contrast between a lone sailor on a small budget and a lone sailor on a larger budget with a much larger crew is very interesting, as I work on my own low-ish budget camper van project. Keep up the good work! You will find all the rot and a warmer port.
You are requesting advice from others Mark but from what I see and what you have done with the boat it’ll be others asking you for advice. Keep up the good work, make it safe and you’ll be in warmer climes before you know it. Much easier to get work done when you'r not freezing your peanuts off and dodging the weather. If I was you I’d be doing just that and then heading south asap (Not advice)😆 All the best, A.
I have this habit now where I always watch your recent upload right after the gym. Idk why but watching your videos after the gym is just such a surreal feeling. The way you film your videos with the editing and music is super chill and relaxing to watch. And the fact that we're in the same country makes the uploading schedule even better 🤣
you are well Mark keep it up like that and you be there sooner than you think
Come to Greece for a mild winter. Here in the Cyclades or Crete "real winter" last usually from January to February. the rest of the "winter" temperatures are above 10° usually around 14°. Of course there is no such thing a mild weather guaranty and it might as well freeze and snow a lot next year. Who knows?
Ahhh i would love to make it there, but I’m not sure I’ll be able to this year
With those type of repairs as long as they are dry you should be ok, but being dry is the key.
Thanks for another post. I can sympathize with the weather comment. I left N Calif for S Arizona for the same reason. GLAD you found some decent wood under that rail. Rot is insidious if you don't get it all. Woke up in the middle of the night with another "Must do" thoughts about your motors. ( no more preaching about starting- just remember the choke is a momentary switch The choke is only on while the key switch is pushed in. So when cold start get to spin and push in , when it fires, just semaphore it to keep running till it runs on its own.) Back to the dream--- you must have a fuel shut off or disconnect the line if you keep your tanks above the engines. A single pin hole in a fuel pump can dilute the oil and empty the tank. Sounds like you are going to get a secure lashing spot for you cross members. Really good idea. Think of the constant pressure those are under in rough seas.
Crossing Biscay would be an adventure, you would need an experienced crew.
I would be more worried about the orca's further south.
Its all progress, and crunchy peanut butter epoxy does wonders. Shout out to M+M, which could be Marks Mum and also Marigold Mary. :)
Haha...Me & my Marigolds😂😂😂
Your skills have improved so much since we saw you doing small jobs on Good Tidings when you were stuck in Paris. Your creativity in filming your work and picking the music is also amazing. I think you deserve every single one of your subscribers an many more in the future.
Great work. Looking forward to see it motoring.
I am glad the videos are doing good. It has been nice seeing the progress so far and looking foward to see how it sails! Stay safe.
_IMPACT DRIVER_ - As others have said and it's a bit late now but that cordless multi-tool is your power chisel. That'll make short work of any rot exposure. It's well worth chiselling out any rot back to sound and plugging to prevent future damp ingress. That rail top joint is a ridiculous water trap. Needs filling with a good permanent barrier - all round the rest of the boat.
_GREAT STUFF!_
Here's a little trick for next time you remove plugs like that mate... Just screw a screw into the center of the plug and the screw hitting the other will pull the plug out 👍
Watch you hands with that angle grinder ;)
I always look forward to seeing what you are up to. Thanks for sharing your adventures with us!
Hi - Great channel! Just a suggestion but I would consider tightening your spring lines and the bow and stern lines. Keep these lines long and tight. Consider also making the lines fixed at the dock and controlling them, tightening and loosening, on the boat. This will keep your yacht from moving side to side and away from the dock while working on the boat. Also, you are removing the "bungs" that are covering the screws. Here, I would use a wood chisel just smaller than the bungs in order to dig them out. Best of Luck!
Love what your're doing! You have achieved so much!
You are definitely growing in to this work Mark ! You are getting better each and every week . Just crack on , summer is just around the corner .
its frustrating enough getting old screws out of stationary wood, must be a whole new level when its bobbing up and down like that😅
glad to see you tackling that job though, it will greatly improve the visual look of the boat
Good to find that rot now. It would be rather disconcerting to be in rough water and watch your hulls going in two different directions! Nice to see you using hi-tech CAD (cardboard aided design)!
Tip. First do the routing and all the oher jobs, then cut to size. The router needs a base to stand on and more chance to clamp your workpiece down without getting in the way.
You are such skilled individual. I am so impressed by your tenacity and willingness to keep learning. Well done.
I would have fainted away having removed that rubbing strip.
Haha thanks! But I’m still far from perfection!
@@WildlingSailing F perfection and go sailing! The better is the enemy of the good.
perfection is for those who want to spend their lives in the workshop. Functional imperfection is what keeps us out in the wild :)
Excellent work yet again. Just keep going and think of all that sun when you sail south 🙂🌞
I can’t wait to watch you sailing your boat in Speedo! 😍
Ask your dad for a little fine valve grinding paste and dip your screwdriver tips into it for every job. You will be amazed. Thin the paste with eg a drop of diesel if needed.
Tacos an boat fixing time before work! Best thing tae dae right before work is come see Mark an tha Katty :3
Seeing you wrangle old screws with an ordinary screwdriver prompts to suggests you purchase a modern version of a carpenter's rat-shit brace. Use it in conjunction with a modern magnetic bit holder. No leccie or batteries required. One of the best tools to have onboard. You take care.
Loving the new router. Top tool! Keep ep up the hard work, you really are making in a boat to be very proud of ❤️
Thanks a lot, Peter! Yeah, she’s coming along slowly ✊
So stepping the mast, buying sails, sorting an autopilot then migrate south!! 😁👍
If you use a Brad point drill bit slightly smaller than the diameter of the dowel, the point will go into the screw head without damaging it and at the same time will either pop out the dowel or just drill most of it out making it easier to remove the dowel, great video and really enjoying your progress restoring your catamaran 😎😎
Hi Mark, I’m not on to normally comment on TH-cam, but I am concerned about just using epoxy and light weight filler to bond the blocks used to lash your cross beams to the hull. Maybe consider screwing through the rub strip, block and hull to form a sandwich construction with some marine grade stainless screws. I know you’re in contact with the designer, maybe they could check to see if what you have done is adequate. I’m just concerned that block is potentially going to delaminate under load. I enjoy all of your videos and I’m always impressed with your hard working attitude. Great progress.
Well done Mark your skill level is excellent if you look at your early fibreglassing skills to now you have improved so much well done cheers from South Australia
Wow your so much better at boat repair and everything repair than you used to be
And your using good techniques
Enjoy
So glad to hear you enjoy that sort of work. It would be so easy to be depressed by finding more rot. Keep up the great work !
As always i love your eclectic music choices.
That was a little new trim router..... but I'm sure it made the job alot easier and safer for you....
Use a deep well hole saw around the screw chip away wood grab with vise grip and remove
You’re getting there Mark. Well done. Such slow diligent work. PS. Love the new skateboard light fixture. Has given me some ideas for my campervan.
I enjoyed youre episode working on your boat. This is a fine channel you create. I understand youre drive to be out of our lovely Holland before the wet and cold takes over the outside world and fight’s the easy live.
It is wonderful to see your skills improving overtime and learning new skills as you go😊
Enjoyed this one. Sharing those tougher aspects of the challenge is the way to find the resolve to power through to the goal. Inspired.
Love the makita router! Think about getting the track for the track saw. There’s an attachment for the router. It’s a level up from the guide.
I have that same router, great piece of kit, get you some bearing bits for it and you can do some pretty amazing things!
I was already wondering, how can you do this such a long time in the Netherlands. Respect.
Last year i refitted my Boat three Month in the Bretagne near Brest. Was also verry hard, the Weather steals your Power. After i reached a Point i could sail, we sailed the Boat down to Portugal.
There's no real ending where you really think it's done. In the meantime I encourage you to keep the effort this once since you might never live any similar experience. Do the grit now, now is the time to see how far you can go and it will remain as a new gauge to what you are capable of.
Please keep going, it will for sure be different from what you imagined but you will come out improved, better, maybe not happier but more conscious I think