It’s super weird that these men think that being “like a mother” is an insult when God himself describes himself as being nurturing like a mother in several places in Scripture.
Wait… wait… wait. Jeremy Prior thinks that Abraham - ABRAHAM - is an example of a great dad??? What the actual… Sorry, not sorry but Abraham and Sarah were pretty crappy people just as a whole but just focusing on Abraham’s parenting: he sent his child Ishmael into the desert without a thought or care for his or his mother’s survival. They were a nomadic people at the time, he could have waited until they got to another city or something and got Hagar and Ishmael settled there. He could have sent some of his servants with them with food and provisions, but no. He sent a woman and a young boy out into the desert to die. And then there’s him just blindly obeying God when God told him to sacrifice Isaac. No “excuse me, God, say what now??” This take just makes me laugh so hard. Jeremy Prior- whoever the heck he is- is an idiot. 😂
@ you flatter me. But thank you. I’ve just been doing a lot of thinking about some of the much lesser known women of the Bible like Hagar, Tamar, Bathsheba… and there is so much nuance there that I have really missed out on. The churches I have gone to focus much more on the male figures in the Bible and the women are brushed aside. Even in our worship songs, if they mention Bible characters, they are almost always men. The only exception really being Mary Jesus’ mother and she is reduced to a silent, timid child. A child she may have been but God chose her to be the mother of the Messiah. I do not believe that she was meek and silent. Contemplative, a deep thinker, certainly, but she also had to have been fierce in her own way. She was widowed young, her family may have abandoned her for conceiving Jesus before marrying Joseph. She is a survivor in her own right. She is the instigator of Jesus’ first miracle which kick-starts his ministry… sorry, I’m carrying on. I’m just blown away by the stories that were only half-told to me and it’s like learning them for the first time.
There are also some guys that *are* willing to engage with their children if it's on *their* terms (ie, pursuing their own interests, rather than the interests of the child)
One of my nephews is 100%Korean. They have a tradition for the first birthday. My sister went to buy traditional clothing for the event. The women showed her several options. Most, if not all, had a significant amount of pink. My sister clarified that she had a boy, and the women explained that they don't see pink exclusively for girls. She went on to explain that's an American thing. It's my understanding the Korean Church is larger than the American Church. Once again, America puts itself in the center of the Church.
A friend of mine won’t let her kids watch bluey because there is apparently a family with two moms? So she feels it is pushing a gay agenda. I’ve never watched the show, my kids are grown, but I like the picture you guys give of the dad!
They're just jealous. They just WISH they could be as cool as Bandit, but they know they'll never meet the extremely high standards of parenthood showcased in Bluey. And tbh, I wish as a parent I could be as fun as Chili (the mum) and be able to drop whatever I'm doing and play fun imaginary games with them but they even understand that dilemma because they have SO many moments in the show where they show Chili having a hard time with being a mum and comparing herself to OTHER MUMS! And all she needed to know was that she WAS doing a good job! The show writers know more about the struggles and joys of parenthood than TGC EVER will.
@@amandamayfilms your idolization of a animated children’s show is telling. With no real world context/experience. House fires, death, sickness, loss of job and people’s real raw emotions are all not happening in this show. We are humans, not animated talking animals. I don’t for a second wish I was as “cool” as a fictional talking dog at all!
@@AdrienneJung.M yes my children watched the show until they starting having gay characters on the episode. We no longer allow them to watch the propaganda channel.
Geeze. I love Bluey for exactly the reasons the author is critiquing. Nothing to see here -just Evangelicals doing what we do best - overthinking everything, providing false dichotomies, lacking the understanding of nuance, and writing middle school level comparing and contrasting essays. Thanks for discussing this. I had forgotten about it, but when I read that article last month it really saddened me that the guy decided to give time and energy to disparaging present dads.
I don't understand who these guys are conquering and who they are fighting with outside the home? Have they noticed the world has significantly changed since Abraham? And since when spending time with your kids is a bad idea?????
I've only read Pryor's article so far and I can barely make out what he's arguing - it's all fluff! There's barely anything to agree or disagree with 🤦🤷
I'm sorry - he thinks Abraham prioritised adult relationships with his kids? That's ridiculous. Abraham sent away all his kids apart from Isaac when they reached adulthood. That's not prioritising relationship at all.
Haven't listened yet but that's not quite accurate. Actually before Abraham had kids, he was an uncle and father figure to lot. And he was quite gracious and still came to his rescue. Next is the fact that Ishmael was bullying Isaac. And that's what caused Sarah to tell Abraham to send them away. And initially he didn't want to, but God told him to. And God did bless them, and he had 12 princes. Then I think people forget about Abraham remarrying after Sarah! He and katorah(*spelling) had 5 more children. We don't really know about his parenting. Though Isaac being willing to obey and submit himself to being sacrificed? That indicates a wonderful relationship. He trusted his father and God.
@sackettfamily4685 you are right. We know very little about his parenting. I don't doubt he loved and cared for his kids as well as Lot. However, as with Ishmael, he did send his other children away from Isaac. Gen 25:5-6 states: "Abraham left everything he owned to Isaac. But while he was still living, he gave gifts to the sons of his concubines and sent them away from his son Isaac to the land of the east." The article they were talking about suggested that the problem with Bluey is that the father prioritises connecting with his children when they are young whereas Abraham prioritised the adult relationship over the childhood ones. (The implication being that young children are solely the responsibility of their mother.) It seems to me that is a huge stretch considering the limited evidence we have of Abraham's parenting style. It requires reading a lot into the text.
@4n1l0u i agree with you on the ridiculously stretching of the Bible application! We don't know anything about his parenting, but what we do know is good. He totally sent away Ishmael, but only after bullying and God told him to send him away. That might have been a harsh reality for them, but God was with them. And it's doesn't really speak to his parenting styles.
@sackettfamily4685 I'm happy to agree with not knowing much about his parenting style. However, I'm less comfortable with saying that what we know is good. Abraham is a fascinating and complex character. He made many good choices and many bad ones as well as many that could be debatable. The one thing we can say is that he trusted God and this was credited to him as righteousness. What better example can any of us set our kids than trusting God? In that respect , I hope to follow Abraham. In other parenting choices, I will probably differ significantly.
We all love Bluey - some people are morons. Bandit knows how to make money. No moms I know act like such a fun idiot as Bandit! But a stay-at-home dad?
A lot of telling things here…. Stay at home dads, and the destructive nature of gentle parenting. I believe a lot of people are also not a fan of Bluey due to them pushing the gay agenda on a children’s show. Which Genuine Christians should be concerned about!
Gentle parenting is not destructive. I’m tired of it getting confused with permissive parenting. If you think kids should be hit and yelled at you don’t belong in this group because Sheila and Rebecca are totally against punitive parenting.
@ they have highlighted on the show “two moms” or “two dads” trying to expose children to the evils of the gay agenda. Starting to normalize what God has Forbidden and calls Sinful and wicked behavior. Not a model we want for our children at all!
@@tristazerbe8119 the fact that we automatically associate a word with something “good” without looking at it in the big picture. Present / Future. How does it align with Scripture? Past Practices (history) and current left wing liberal trends destroying the future of the family. Just because something has a “good name” i.e. Gentle Parenting doesn’t mean #1 that it is good and #2 doesn’t automatically mean that I’m into Violent Parenting. Anyone not willing to acknowledge that simply wants to live in an echo chamber of their own delusional world.
@@NoahFred29How do you know we haven’t all looked at it “in the big picture” and compared it to scripture? You don’t actually present any valid argument against gentle parenting here.
I love love love Bluey…my 11 yr old son was watching Bluey and turns to me and says “I want to be a dad like Bandit when I grow up” ❤
Me, late 20s, huge Bluey fan: bold of you to assume I have kids 😂
Early 20s and same 😂
What an asinine take on Bluey. Christians should be celebrating a beautiful and fun example of being an involved parent
Jeremy Pryor seriously needs to listen to Harry Chapin's "Cat's in the Cradle."
My thoughts exactly!
My thoughts exactly!
As exhausted parents that song drove so many of iut parenting decisions. I’m thankful for the way God used that song in my life.
Respectful/gentle/authoritative parenting is where it's at!
It’s super weird that these men think that being “like a mother” is an insult when God himself describes himself as being nurturing like a mother in several places in Scripture.
Wait… wait… wait. Jeremy Prior thinks that Abraham - ABRAHAM - is an example of a great dad??? What the actual… Sorry, not sorry but Abraham and Sarah were pretty crappy people just as a whole but just focusing on Abraham’s parenting: he sent his child Ishmael into the desert without a thought or care for his or his mother’s survival. They were a nomadic people at the time, he could have waited until they got to another city or something and got Hagar and Ishmael settled there. He could have sent some of his servants with them with food and provisions, but no. He sent a woman and a young boy out into the desert to die. And then there’s him just blindly obeying God when God told him to sacrifice Isaac. No “excuse me, God, say what now??” This take just makes me laugh so hard. Jeremy Prior- whoever the heck he is- is an idiot. 😂
This is one of the most important comments ever.
@ you flatter me. But thank you. I’ve just been doing a lot of thinking about some of the much lesser known women of the Bible like Hagar, Tamar, Bathsheba… and there is so much nuance there that I have really missed out on. The churches I have gone to focus much more on the male figures in the Bible and the women are brushed aside. Even in our worship songs, if they mention Bible characters, they are almost always men. The only exception really being Mary Jesus’ mother and she is reduced to a silent, timid child. A child she may have been but God chose her to be the mother of the Messiah. I do not believe that she was meek and silent. Contemplative, a deep thinker, certainly, but she also had to have been fierce in her own way. She was widowed young, her family may have abandoned her for conceiving Jesus before marrying Joseph. She is a survivor in her own right. She is the instigator of Jesus’ first miracle which kick-starts his ministry… sorry, I’m carrying on. I’m just blown away by the stories that were only half-told to me and it’s like learning them for the first time.
There are also some guys that *are* willing to engage with their children if it's on *their* terms (ie, pursuing their own interests, rather than the interests of the child)
One of my nephews is 100%Korean. They have a tradition for the first birthday. My sister went to buy traditional clothing for the event. The women showed her several options. Most, if not all, had a significant amount of pink. My sister clarified that she had a boy, and the women explained that they don't see pink exclusively for girls. She went on to explain that's an American thing.
It's my understanding the Korean Church is larger than the American Church. Once again, America puts itself in the center of the Church.
A friend of mine won’t let her kids watch bluey because there is apparently a family with two moms? So she feels it is pushing a gay agenda. I’ve never watched the show, my kids are grown, but I like the picture you guys give of the dad!
They're just jealous. They just WISH they could be as cool as Bandit, but they know they'll never meet the extremely high standards of parenthood showcased in Bluey. And tbh, I wish as a parent I could be as fun as Chili (the mum) and be able to drop whatever I'm doing and play fun imaginary games with them but they even understand that dilemma because they have SO many moments in the show where they show Chili having a hard time with being a mum and comparing herself to OTHER MUMS! And all she needed to know was that she WAS doing a good job! The show writers know more about the struggles and joys of parenthood than TGC EVER will.
@@amandamayfilms your idolization of a animated children’s show is telling. With no real world context/experience. House fires, death, sickness, loss of job and people’s real raw emotions are all not happening in this show. We are humans, not animated talking animals. I don’t for a second wish I was as “cool” as a fictional talking dog at all!
@@NoahFred29have you even watched it?
I completely agree
@@AdrienneJung.M yes my children watched the show until they starting having gay characters on the episode. We no longer allow them to watch the propaganda channel.
@ I watched that and didn’t notice any gay characters
Great episode, thanks!
I hadn’t heard of these complaints yet! Unfortunately, the show did recently introduce two LGBTQ characters on the episode called, “The Sign.”
Yes I loved that episode! I was so glad to see LGBTQ characters added in Bluey but was sad we didn't get more than just a line about it.
@ I’m sure you’ll get more than a line soon 😅
Yeah that's why I'm now screening the episodes more now. Because that's not ok.
Geeze. I love Bluey for exactly the reasons the author is critiquing. Nothing to see here -just Evangelicals doing what we do best - overthinking everything, providing false dichotomies, lacking the understanding of nuance, and writing middle school level comparing and contrasting essays. Thanks for discussing this. I had forgotten about it, but when I read that article last month it really saddened me that the guy decided to give time and energy to disparaging present dads.
I don't understand who these guys are conquering and who they are fighting with outside the home? Have they noticed the world has significantly changed since Abraham? And since when spending time with your kids is a bad idea?????
I've only read Pryor's article so far and I can barely make out what he's arguing - it's all fluff! There's barely anything to agree or disagree with 🤦🤷
Grandparent here! Keep your hands off my Bluey!!
I'm sorry - he thinks Abraham prioritised adult relationships with his kids? That's ridiculous. Abraham sent away all his kids apart from Isaac when they reached adulthood. That's not prioritising relationship at all.
Haven't listened yet but that's not quite accurate. Actually before Abraham had kids, he was an uncle and father figure to lot. And he was quite gracious and still came to his rescue.
Next is the fact that Ishmael was bullying Isaac. And that's what caused Sarah to tell Abraham to send them away. And initially he didn't want to, but God told him to. And God did bless them, and he had 12 princes.
Then I think people forget about Abraham remarrying after Sarah! He and katorah(*spelling) had 5 more children. We don't really know about his parenting.
Though Isaac being willing to obey and submit himself to being sacrificed? That indicates a wonderful relationship. He trusted his father and God.
@sackettfamily4685 you are right. We know very little about his parenting. I don't doubt he loved and cared for his kids as well as Lot. However, as with Ishmael, he did send his other children away from Isaac. Gen 25:5-6 states: "Abraham left everything he owned to Isaac. But while he was still living, he gave gifts to the sons of his concubines and sent them away from his son Isaac to the land of the east." The article they were talking about suggested that the problem with Bluey is that the father prioritises connecting with his children when they are young whereas Abraham prioritised the adult relationship over the childhood ones. (The implication being that young children are solely the responsibility of their mother.) It seems to me that is a huge stretch considering the limited evidence we have of Abraham's parenting style. It requires reading a lot into the text.
@4n1l0u i agree with you on the ridiculously stretching of the Bible application! We don't know anything about his parenting, but what we do know is good. He totally sent away Ishmael, but only after bullying and God told him to send him away. That might have been a harsh reality for them, but God was with them. And it's doesn't really speak to his parenting styles.
@sackettfamily4685 I'm happy to agree with not knowing much about his parenting style. However, I'm less comfortable with saying that what we know is good. Abraham is a fascinating and complex character. He made many good choices and many bad ones as well as many that could be debatable. The one thing we can say is that he trusted God and this was credited to him as righteousness. What better example can any of us set our kids than trusting God? In that respect , I hope to follow Abraham. In other parenting choices, I will probably differ significantly.
We all love Bluey - some people are morons. Bandit knows how to make money. No moms I know act like such a fun idiot as Bandit! But a stay-at-home dad?
A lot of telling things here…. Stay at home dads, and the destructive nature of gentle parenting. I believe a lot of people are also not a fan of Bluey due to them pushing the gay agenda on a children’s show. Which Genuine Christians should be concerned about!
What gay agenda?
Gentle parenting is not destructive. I’m tired of it getting confused with permissive parenting. If you think kids should be hit and yelled at you don’t belong in this group because Sheila and Rebecca are totally against punitive parenting.
@ they have highlighted on the show “two moms” or “two dads” trying to expose children to the evils of the gay agenda. Starting to normalize what God has Forbidden and calls Sinful and wicked behavior. Not a model we want for our children at all!
@@tristazerbe8119 the fact that we automatically associate a word with something “good” without looking at it in the big picture. Present / Future. How does it align with Scripture? Past Practices (history) and current left wing liberal trends destroying the future of the family.
Just because something has a “good name” i.e. Gentle Parenting doesn’t mean #1 that it is good and #2 doesn’t automatically mean that I’m into Violent Parenting.
Anyone not willing to acknowledge that simply wants to live in an echo chamber of their own delusional world.
@@NoahFred29How do you know we haven’t all looked at it “in the big picture” and compared it to scripture? You don’t actually present any valid argument against gentle parenting here.