I'm 35, when I was 13 I heard The Incredible String Band for the first time and loved, learned how to play the songs, I was really very inspired and touched by their music and style...today I wanted to listen on TH-cam to remember, and ended up discovering that this beautiful and talented woman is missing for decades. Just for you guys know, I'm brazilian, then you understand how much impact some people from other decades, other countries, can have in your life, and the depth of the whole thing.
Hubbard was charismatic and that quality helped him get away with some of his abhorrent behavior like his racism, sexism and his abuse of his wifes. He was a typical cult leader. Miscavige just keeps everyone in line, not using charisma, but brutal physical violence and psychological warfare. He's not even a good businessman. Just a gangster
Dj Better, Yea, no charisma, no altitude, other than to the slave staffs and followers who have to bow to David Miscavige. Hubbard had a pretty limited audience too, anyone would also think. Hubbard was never taken seriously, other than by undereducated followers who bought into Hubbard's bragging. Who wants to find out they are full of Xenu's body-thetans' psychological trauma memories. BS squared.
my dad is a huge ISB fan, and I grew up looking at pictures of Rise and Licki and wanting to grow up like those two beautiful ladies. I am in the Thank You live audience credits on a recording of an ISB album from about 2004 (I think, maybe 2005) and I've seen Robin play live many times. I always wondered if the mysterious circumstances of Licki would ever be explained, and here we are! Thank you for sharing
It still blows my mind how easily a fraud can become a leader of the powerful like that. Cause 100% if he told his whole Xenu story up front everyone would have thought him a crazy POS but he knew exactly how long he should hold that shit back to get people all the way in. It is so very interesting.
What a fantastic interview. The best and most enlightening ever. It breaks my heart about how such an accomplished, talented and tender soul that was Likke had to end up the way she did. Its such a crime.
Ron & Brian, A very Powerful Vitally Important interview. I so agree that Ron was an expert hypnotist and con manipulator. The OT Levels to me today are still so sinister because they are Lies and Evil ones at that. Money and warped Power are the cult of Scientology ‘s end product goals.May Likki be at Peace & May she know Light & Love. Thank you both from my heart.Ann Watson
Michael Lambert Memories hold so much and tug at heartstrings too. Likki and I wrote eachother when I was Letter Reg @ Asho F Back in ancient years 1974 my first year in Sea Org. I had joined after reading DMSMH and ISB especially Likki was a very favorite band of mine. I met her once when she did a group of songs at an event for PAC Sea Org. There was a long corridor backstage & she came right up to me, gave me a big hug and whispered Ann you are my first Sea Org recruit to Asho F who listened to Earthspan Love you, then she twirled away in her beautiful skirts and was gone. I am sure Brian was there too but I was still Ron Sea Org drunk and was not showing any emotion. All these years later when I read your post about Likki I remember her as like a rainbow with the voice of a angel. Love to you & Brian. Thank you for your lovely comment.
Michael Lambert Exactly! I love to laugh at what I put up with now & so grateful I can do so. Back when I left in 1978 it was very crazy & alot of covert info gathering on one which was really another type of command control obey. For many years I could not laugh about my Sea Org time. It had become a case of my survival. Today I embrace that I can remember & laugh at how much power I willingly gave up to Ron who after all was a hypnotist con with sadistic and narcissistic proclivities. Who never deserved the Source designation but knew how to create his world of delusions.
I am so glad this guest has exposed the truth of LRH's background in the dark arts. His apprenticeship in the teachings of Allister Crowley are intrical of his teachings. In the end he showed who he really was. That was a gift to his followers if they choose to open their eyes that is another matter.
... Hiya Ron!!! ... So Glad You Are Doing Well!!! ... Seeing You Brought Back Memories Of Debbie And I (the twins) Having Tea Together In Philly!!! ... Keep Up The Good Work!!! ... Looking Forward To Future Videos!!! ...
I was a kid when they build that Scientology church just north of Hemet, CA. It wasn't a very big city so it as literally the talk of the town. I remember even then people I knew where whispering to stay away from that place. I didn't know why until I was well, well into my adulthood.
This was such an unexpected video to find, thank you to both Ron and Brian for doing this. Though for all the years I had known of this story I had a feeling it didnt have a very happy ending, there was/is just so little information. So now that its confirmed in such a way, I find it to be very sad and actually frustrating/angering. From learning more in depth how scientology used people, to learning from the comments from a relative of Brians, that she confronted Brian for him knowing that for weeks his ex was in an alley near where he was living. That Likky was not happy being homeless... I hope she is still among us or atleast found some peace in the end. Thanks again for uploading this video.
02:13 altitude instruction. Hubbard's manipulative style. Hypnotizing without putting the person "under" formal hypnotism. 10:50 The "Lucifer" OT 8 thread, boy, Brian was just critical to getting that whole history news breaking story out and confirmed, EXCELLENT, thankyou Brian! That was a staggering important history story finally resolved. George White can't thank him enough. Kudos Brian for pushing that thread. (A reason Marty's comments section is chock full of important history, experts of Scientology have to know about.) 22:54 Incredible String Band and Likky Mckechnie 27:55 "....this is what happened to Likky....." 31:20 Likky steals the OT 3 materials out of AO, copies them at Charlie Chans, brings copies to Brian. 1981-82ish. Firsthand story. !!!! Scientology at that time was viciously after those who "stole" the OT 3 Xenu body-thetans story and Hubbard's standard exorcism procedures/theory writtings, which Likky copied and distributed. 33:49 Explains how OT 3 can drive a person insane Very excellent interview Brian, thankyou so much for this history and your conclusions.
Brian. I do not understand how you could have left the love of your life walk out into the desert. Regardless the diagnosis, she is lost to her friends and family. Do you not feel an obligation to find and protect her? You were her husband. You sound like you have over intellectualized the situation. Personally, she always seemed schizophrenic....hearing voices, fear driven and happiest when living on the streets....please go and find her and help her receive the help she might need even all these years later.
I do not understand it either! He fell in love with a beautiful photo in an album where she appeared... Like when we are teenagers. According to a friend of Likky, his marriage never went well. Bless you, Likky Mckechnie.
Poor guy. Thanks Ron for another fantastic interview. I hope his ex-wife is able to get in touch with him again. What an absolute nightmare, I can't even begin to understand what they went through. This is a part of the dark side of the cult that the general public don't understand. And no wonder. It's confusing and outside of any normality, anything everyday that we're all familiar with. Hubbard knew he was messing with people's minds. He completely was aware that the higher courses could very possibly turn people's minds upside down. To me, that is completely dark and evil. The fact that he promoted something so possibly dangerous to unwitting victims. You just end up hoping that those who are still involved wake up somehow. Although, those who are guilty of complete abject cruelty, I don't know how they will ever be honest enough with themselves or even begin the process of a true recovery. Because they would have to face up to their terrible actions and all the pain they caused. I remember watching Ricki Lake one day where she brought on stage a terrible bully who had made the other guest's life miserable all through high school. The now bulky bully was not happy about being ambushed and was bitterly complaining about the difference in the size she now carries and her slender selfh during high school. If I remember correctly, she had little interest in the damage she had caused and just felt very sorry for her own self. I guess this will be the case with some of the worst offenders. But it remains, the over riding thing though is for all of the existing members to waken up to the cult. Here is an example of the casual violence practiced by many managers. I believe it was an interview held by Karen D. of a young man with a wonderful smile who was a young member of the Sea Org, He was describing his day to day experiences. After his normal duties he would have to go to the call centre and try to sell books. He became very unwell during this time, no wonder, poor guy. Anyway, he'd be sat at a desk doing his best to sell the stupid books and each day his superior would sneak up behind him and cuff him hard on the back of his head. No reason was attached to her actions. But I've since learned that being happy while in the background as a Sea Org member(as opposed to anyone from the public seeing you) was not tolerated. If you were displaying any happiness then you couldn't possibly be applying yourself to your duties fully. So maybe that's what she translated his natural smile as ? What ever it was, how can that unpleasant person begin to be honest with herself after despicable daily behaviour like that ? I really don't know. So you end up thinking did the organisation attract monsters or did it make them that way ?
I love listening to Brian's insights into the early mind screws of elron. Completely dark as the night is long. There is no spirituality in that cult at all.
You know, my dear brother, I don't remember that moment that way. I recall you saying to me, "I'm going to meet her and marry her." Not that you wanted to. You were quite confident about it. (The album was Changing Horses for you ISB fans.) My mind was thoroughly blown when you did marry her soon after you arrived in LA. lol
I think you are right Mike. I think I was forcing humility on myself. It was that exact and matter of fact. I even remember calling you first making you guess who I was going to marry. I think I help you on for 15 minutes. And when I told you you didn’t believe me. Ha ha ha! I sometimes am amazed at it myself. Thank you for the clarity Mike.
EastBay Accountability how is Ron trying to ruin Anonymous? He's the most sincere individual that I've seen. He gains very little by having his blog. I do believe Anonymous has done the most damage to Scientology and I believe the best way to hurt COS is by being anonymous in ones fight against it. The Church can't hurt who they can't identify.
I would like to talk about the hypnosis myself at some point. I am always cautious of going into the subject with people because it's hard to discuss with people who haven't been through this. It's also difficult to discuss without sounding scatterbrained or severly mentally ill.
I am so sorry that she was so victimized to that degree. The breakdown of mind and spirit is just crushing to the individual and all who love them. I hope you find your Likky again.
So sad and yet so common in Scientology that it can’t be a coincidence. At least a lot of new people are not joining because of your show, Lias show, Tony etc.
ppl who join that kind of institution have something in common, it is not random that they fall so deep into a trap, nevermind mathematicians/doctors or common guy, all share the same dissatisfaction with life, searching for more, ego-determined ppl (be better, rich higher etc.) if you seek for things you might find good or bad things, the best recipe for life is to appreciate what you have, expand it if possible, be thankful and be aware, wolfs are seeking ppl like you, lost/broken/egoistic/ with all sorts of weaknesses...so be strong, be self sufficient, try to find answers by yourself! it is possible! don`t rely on others, don`t expect someone will have an answer for your OWN problems, solve them and move on...otherwise, you might lean on the wrong shoulders of ppl who wants to see you destroyed, who wants you to remain broken so they can use you in any way they like...
The reason,I believe, that the Church doesn't teach about how one can attain all these poweres such as going exterior etc is because of how ppl were in the 50's and 60's. They were ready to believe in new theories and hippy philosophy. They were beginning to open their minds to Eastern philosophy and other ones. Nowadays, ppl are more knowledgeable and sophisticated and also more cynical and jaded and not into religion as much. So DM and the Church won't put that out any more as a benefit that members can attain to
I just got the notification as well so I am guessing it was maybe open to his paetreon people before the youtube general public. Not sure on that, but that is usually the reason for the date discrepancy.
I love your discussion. Brian has thought through each of the issues and presents his conclusions with such reality. Original OT 8 was on the Freewinds in 1988. I was present on the ship. Hubbard really wanted to be Lucifer. He was on the dark side of the metaphysical spectrum. David Miscavige tried to trash the document and brought us all back for a de-briefing. If you are in Scientology you are in the most screwed up "religion" on the planet. The first fool wanted to be the anti-Christ. The second fool tried to hide it. Either way you lose. Take my advice, get out now.
When your ex wife have become homeless I believe you said you guys were still together why didn't you offer her a place to stay? So she would at least have a roof over her head just wondering
I've been a fan of the Incredibles since the seventies. When I heard of Scientology I used to think that couldn't be so bad since people like Robin or Mike (or Chick Corea, for that matter) came up with such wonderful music. But, wow. Being the least spiritual person you can think of, I never cared for that more than I cared for the Children of God, for instance, or any other crap like that (as the joke goes, I don't believe my own religion, even when it's the real one). This is a truly sad story about Likky. It really breaks my heart.
She just vanished off the face of the earth. So sad. To be fair, she did a lot of acid, they are definition of acid-folk if ever there was such a band. English-folk psychedelia. A high priestess of psychedelia to thousands.....at Woodstock, hundreds of thousands.....easy transition to the ego-stroking scientology.
One thing confuses me a little with regards to him & his ex-wife ‘Likky’ (short for Licorice). If they were married when she was that messed up & (even though it would have done no good) Scientology refused to help her further why didn’t he get her other help? He wasn’t OT just starting out in Scientology so wouldn’t it make sense that with no other options he would take her to a mental health facility? Yes I know, once a Scientologist has been committed they can never again receive auditing. But if it’s that or homelessness? I don’t understand I wish he could explain what he was thinking at the time. I’m not judging him I’m just genuinely curious.
Hi Matthew, when Likky and I were together she would always fantasies about the old women in Scotland called the tinkers. She said they were homeless and sold rags my pushing a wooden cart. She would tell me from time to time that she envied their disassociation from society. When we got divorced she actually lived in vacant lots. She would walk miles and miles from Pasadena to LA, from Montrose (where her boyfriend lives) back to LA. She was actually happy just like she thought about the tinkers. When I found here in the back yard of my house she was in a depressed state. She would go from being extremely happy to extremely depressed. I did not have the means to help her. Nor did I know anything about mental illness. But to be clear, Likky chose to be homeless. She actually was happy being free. But she did go down into deep depression. Her boyfriend was delusional also. He said he was L RON Hubbard come back in his body. Likky believed him. I was dealing with mental conditions I had no understanding of. Again, Likky chose to be homeless and on many occasions she told me she was happy to be out of the money grind of society. I think she was a waitress from time to time. Scientology messed her up. Scientology messes up many people I knew.
@brian thank you for such a thorough response. I have known people who chose to disassociate from society in the same manner as Likky. It truly sounds like you did all you could for her, it is very difficult to connect with anyone who is not entirely in reality even of they need assistance.
... GET FREAKING REAL Brian!!! ... Likki Was NEVER Happy Being Homeless!!! ... (NO ONE Is EVER Happy Being Homeless Were You When We Ended Up Homeless???!!!) ... When You Told Me She Was Living In A Cardboard Box In OUR BACK ALLEY (not our backyard as we had no backyard) For Two Weeks I Was Pissed At You For Leaving Her There And Not Telling Me!!! ... When I Asked Her Into Our Home She Cried In My Arms In DEEP GRATITUDE Brian And I Supported You Both!!! ... You Are Still Justifying And Rationalizing Your Lack Of Respect And Support Of And For Women SMH!!! ... Shame On You Brian!!! ...
I am pretty sure that you had done other services before falling with the idea that Hubbard was who he said in Hymn of Asia that only came out in 1974, when $cientology was already booming. That service wich probably included torturing yourself on TR0 Confrontation... or going through the purif... Hubbard could not just tell people that he was this or that. Eventhough he was very carismatic. There had to be strong coercition technics before that. But you are on the right path. Thanks for sharing. You are very courageous.
I'm 35, when I was 13 I heard The Incredible String Band for the first time and loved, learned how to play the songs, I was really very inspired and touched by their music and style...today I wanted to listen on TH-cam to remember, and ended up discovering that this beautiful and talented woman is missing for decades. Just for you guys know, I'm brazilian, then you understand how much impact some people from other decades, other countries, can have in your life, and the depth of the whole thing.
This is such an amazing interview.....every time your show gets better Ron. Thank you.
Holy shit. Brian Lambert, you have truly enlightened me, and all of us. Thank you both for this unbelievable conversation. Thank you!
How could anyone believe that Scientology was genuine.? I hope that LM is alive, well and living a healthy and happy life.
And part of the reason the con is crumbling is because David doesn’t have the hypnotic skills that L Ron had....thank goodness
Hubbard was charismatic and that quality helped him get away with some of his abhorrent behavior like his racism, sexism and his abuse of his wifes. He was a typical cult leader. Miscavige just keeps everyone in line, not using charisma, but brutal physical violence and psychological warfare. He's not even a good businessman. Just a gangster
Charlotte Deville 100% correct.
Dj Better,
Yea, no charisma, no altitude, other than to the slave staffs and followers who have to bow to David Miscavige. Hubbard had a pretty limited audience too, anyone would also think. Hubbard was never taken seriously, other than by undereducated followers who bought into Hubbard's bragging.
Who wants to find out they are full of Xenu's body-thetans' psychological trauma memories. BS squared.
That was such a disturbing revelation. I was so disturbed when I first found out that Likky went missing. I hope she is found one day. Poor thing.
She vanished into oblivion like 35 years ago. I doubt she's still alive. God knows what happened.. Scientology ruined many lives.
my dad is a huge ISB fan, and I grew up looking at pictures of Rise and Licki and wanting to grow up like those two beautiful ladies. I am in the Thank You live audience credits on a recording of an ISB album from about 2004 (I think, maybe 2005) and I've seen Robin play live many times. I always wondered if the mysterious circumstances of Licki would ever be explained, and here we are! Thank you for sharing
It still blows my mind how easily a fraud can become a leader of the powerful like that. Cause 100% if he told his whole Xenu story up front everyone would have thought him a crazy POS but he knew exactly how long he should hold that shit back to get people all the way in. It is so very interesting.
@just Bfree He did. That's why Dianetics failed at first, and was revived as Scientology. He was such a royal shitbrick.
@just Bfree I wouldn't be surprised if that was the case. It seems like the higher ups have decided to completely sell their souls for these lies.
What a fantastic interview. The best and most enlightening ever. It breaks my heart about how such an accomplished, talented and tender soul that was Likke had to end up the way she did. Its such a crime.
Ron your show is very informative. And I love Brian Lambert! He’s smart entertaining and has an unique perspective.
Thank you Mary for getting it🤗
Ron & Brian, A very Powerful Vitally Important interview. I so agree that Ron was an expert hypnotist and con manipulator. The OT Levels to me today are still so sinister because they are Lies and Evil ones at that. Money and warped Power are the cult of Scientology ‘s end product goals.May Likki be at Peace & May she know Light & Love. Thank you both from my heart.Ann Watson
Thank you Ann. Your support has meant a lot to me. Blessings ❤️
I remember Likki as such a sweet, gentle, magical soul. I treasure those memories.
Michael Lambert Memories hold so much and tug at heartstrings too. Likki and I wrote eachother when I was Letter Reg @ Asho F Back in ancient years 1974 my first year in Sea Org. I had joined after reading DMSMH and ISB especially Likki was a very favorite band of mine. I met her once when she did a group of songs at an event for PAC Sea Org. There was a long corridor backstage & she came right up to me, gave me a big hug and whispered Ann you are my first Sea Org recruit to Asho F who listened to Earthspan Love you, then she twirled away in her beautiful skirts and was gone. I am sure Brian was there too but I was still Ron Sea Org drunk and was not showing any emotion. All these years later when I read your post about Likki I remember her as like a rainbow with the voice of a angel. Love to you & Brian. Thank you for your lovely comment.
@@annwatson5733 And thank you for your kind words and reminiscence, Ann. It's amusing to be revisiting the vocabulary no one else understands. lol
Michael Lambert Exactly! I love to laugh at what I put up with now & so grateful I can do so. Back when I left in 1978 it was very crazy & alot of covert info gathering on one which was really another type of command control obey. For many years I could not laugh about my Sea Org time. It had become a case of my survival. Today I embrace that I can remember & laugh at how much power I willingly gave up to Ron who after all was a hypnotist con with sadistic and narcissistic proclivities. Who never deserved the Source designation but knew how to create his world of delusions.
I am so glad this guest has exposed the truth of LRH's background in the dark arts. His apprenticeship in the teachings of Allister Crowley are intrical of his teachings. In the end he showed who he really was. That was a gift to his followers if they choose to open their eyes that is another matter.
💜🧡💛💚💙to you Ron
Wow. very sad story about Likki. Bless you where ever you are Now.xxx
... Hiya Ron!!! ... So Glad You Are Doing Well!!! ... Seeing You Brought Back Memories Of Debbie And I (the twins) Having Tea Together In Philly!!! ... Keep Up The Good Work!!! ... Looking Forward To Future Videos!!! ...
I was a kid when they build that Scientology church just north of Hemet, CA. It wasn't a very big city so it as literally the talk of the town. I remember even then people I knew where whispering to stay away from that place. I didn't know why until I was well, well into my adulthood.
This was such an unexpected video to find, thank you to both Ron and Brian for doing this. Though for all the years I had known of this story I had a feeling it didnt have a very happy ending, there was/is just so little information. So now that its confirmed in such a way, I find it to be very sad and actually frustrating/angering. From learning more in depth how scientology used people, to learning from the comments from a relative of Brians, that she confronted Brian for him knowing that for weeks his ex was in an alley near where he was living. That Likky was not happy being homeless... I hope she is still among us or atleast found some peace in the end. Thanks again for uploading this video.
02:13 altitude instruction. Hubbard's manipulative style. Hypnotizing without putting the person "under" formal hypnotism.
10:50 The "Lucifer" OT 8 thread, boy, Brian was just critical to getting that whole history news breaking story out and confirmed, EXCELLENT, thankyou Brian! That was a staggering important history story finally resolved. George White can't thank him enough. Kudos Brian for pushing that thread. (A reason Marty's comments section is chock full of important history, experts of Scientology have to know about.)
22:54 Incredible String Band and Likky Mckechnie
27:55 "....this is what happened to Likky....."
31:20 Likky steals the OT 3 materials out of AO, copies them at Charlie Chans, brings copies to Brian. 1981-82ish. Firsthand story. !!!! Scientology at that time was viciously after those who "stole" the OT 3 Xenu body-thetans story and Hubbard's standard exorcism procedures/theory writtings, which Likky copied and distributed.
33:49 Explains how OT 3 can drive a person insane
Very excellent interview Brian, thankyou so much for this history and your conclusions.
22:55 Incredible String Band
Brian. I do not understand how you could have left the love of your life walk out into the desert. Regardless the diagnosis, she is lost to her friends and family. Do you not feel an obligation to find and protect her? You were her husband. You sound like you have over intellectualized the situation. Personally, she always seemed schizophrenic....hearing voices, fear driven and happiest when living on the streets....please go and find her and help her receive the help she might need even all these years later.
I can’t help but agree Stan!
I do not understand it either! He fell in love with a beautiful photo in an album where she appeared... Like when we are teenagers. According to a friend of Likky, his marriage never went well. Bless you, Likky Mckechnie.
Poor guy. Thanks Ron for another fantastic interview.
I hope his ex-wife is able to get in touch with him again.
What an absolute nightmare, I can't even begin to understand what they went through.
This is a part of the dark side of the cult that the general public don't understand. And no wonder. It's confusing and outside of any normality, anything everyday that we're all familiar with.
Hubbard knew he was messing with people's minds. He completely was aware that the higher courses could very possibly turn people's minds upside down. To me, that is completely dark and evil. The fact that he promoted something so possibly dangerous to unwitting victims. You just end up hoping that those who are still involved wake up somehow. Although, those who are guilty of complete abject cruelty, I don't know how they will ever be honest enough with themselves or even begin the process of a true recovery. Because they would have to face up to their terrible actions and all the pain they caused. I remember watching Ricki Lake one day where she brought on stage a terrible bully who had made the other guest's life miserable all through high school. The now bulky bully was not happy about being ambushed and was bitterly complaining about the difference in the size she now carries and her slender selfh during high school. If I remember correctly, she had little interest in the damage she had caused and just felt very sorry for her own self. I guess this will be the case with some of the worst offenders. But it remains, the over riding thing though is for all of the existing members to waken up to the cult.
Here is an example of the casual violence practiced by many managers. I believe it was an interview held by Karen D. of a young man with a wonderful smile who was a young member of the Sea Org, He was describing his day to day experiences. After his normal duties he would have to go to the call centre and try to sell books. He became very unwell during this time, no wonder, poor guy. Anyway, he'd be sat at a desk doing his best to sell the stupid books and each day his superior would sneak up behind him and cuff him hard on the back of his head. No reason was attached to her actions. But I've since learned that being happy while in the background as a Sea Org member(as opposed to anyone from the public seeing you) was not tolerated. If you were displaying any happiness then you couldn't possibly be applying yourself to your duties fully. So maybe that's what she translated his natural smile as ? What ever it was, how can that unpleasant person begin to be honest with herself after despicable daily behaviour like that ? I really don't know. So you end up thinking did the organisation attract monsters or did it make them that way ?
Phenomenal interview.
I love listening to Brian's insights into the early mind screws of elron. Completely dark as the night is long. There is no spirituality in that cult at all.
Thanks Jay R, you’ve been around the blogs right?
@@brianthomaslambert2894 yes 👋
😁
You know, my dear brother, I don't remember that moment that way. I recall you saying to me, "I'm going to meet her and marry her." Not that you wanted to. You were quite confident about it. (The album was Changing Horses for you ISB fans.) My mind was thoroughly blown when you did marry her soon after you arrived in LA. lol
I think you are right Mike. I think I was forcing humility on myself.
It was that exact and matter of fact. I even remember calling you first making you guess who I was going to marry.
I think I help you on for 15 minutes. And when I told you you didn’t believe me. Ha ha ha! I sometimes am amazed at it myself.
Thank you for the clarity Mike.
@@brianthomaslambert2894 I had a feeling you self edited. lol
Ron. Please read Tony's blog today about what the cult is starting to do to our military veterans.
Every single person they take is heartbreaking but when they start in on the people who have sacrificed so much it makes me want to explode.
EastBay Accountability how is Ron trying to ruin Anonymous? He's the most sincere individual that I've seen. He gains very little by having his blog. I do believe Anonymous has done the most damage to Scientology and I believe the best way to hurt COS is by being anonymous in ones fight against it. The Church can't hurt who they can't identify.
@@bongsoutdongsout What exactly about my comment said I didn't think Scientology is horse shit?
35 cents for OT3. So expensive. God bless you.
I would like to talk about the hypnosis myself at some point. I am always cautious of going into the subject with people because it's hard to discuss with people who haven't been through this. It's also difficult to discuss without sounding scatterbrained or severly mentally ill.
That’s maybe because you áre ..
@@mvl6827 are what...
Anti-Popular Girl the last words of your first comment
I am so sorry that she was so victimized to that degree. The breakdown of mind and spirit is just crushing to the individual and all who love them. I hope you find your Likky again.
This truly broke my heart.
Did Likky sing a song called ‘old songs and cottages’?
Es cierto! Es una canción que "Likky" y "Robin Williamson" compusieron en la época de la ISB y, que nunca se llegó a publicar.
¿Dónde puedo encontrar las palabras?@@lennon_9dream133
So sad and yet so common in Scientology that it can’t be a coincidence.
At least a lot of new people are not joining because of your show, Lias show, Tony etc.
ppl who join that kind of institution have something in common, it is not random that they fall so deep into a trap, nevermind mathematicians/doctors or common guy, all share the same dissatisfaction with life, searching for more, ego-determined ppl (be better, rich higher etc.) if you seek for things you might find good or bad things, the best recipe for life is to appreciate what you have, expand it if possible, be thankful and be aware, wolfs are seeking ppl like you, lost/broken/egoistic/ with all sorts of weaknesses...so be strong, be self sufficient, try to find answers by yourself! it is possible! don`t rely on others, don`t expect someone will have an answer for your OWN problems, solve them and move on...otherwise, you might lean on the wrong shoulders of ppl who wants to see you destroyed, who wants you to remain broken so they can use you in any way they like...
The reason,I believe, that the Church doesn't teach about how one can attain all these poweres such as going exterior etc is because of how ppl were in the 50's and 60's. They were ready to believe in new theories and hippy philosophy. They were beginning to open their minds to Eastern philosophy and other ones. Nowadays, ppl are more knowledgeable and sophisticated and also more cynical and jaded and not into religion as much. So DM and the Church won't put that out any more as a benefit that members can attain to
When was this 1st on? Jan 6th like the description said or 15 min ago. I didn't want to miss it and I didn't get my usual notification.
I just got the notification as well so I am guessing it was maybe open to his paetreon people before the youtube general public. Not sure on that, but that is usually the reason for the date discrepancy.
Sad. COS drives people crazy
expose information
I love your discussion. Brian has thought through each of the issues and presents his conclusions with such reality. Original OT 8 was on the Freewinds in 1988. I was present on the ship. Hubbard really wanted to be Lucifer. He was on the dark side of the metaphysical spectrum. David Miscavige tried to trash the document and brought us all back for a de-briefing. If you are in Scientology you are in the most screwed up "religion" on the planet. The first fool wanted to be the anti-Christ. The second fool tried to hide it. Either way you lose.
Take my advice, get out now.
Maharishi once expressed admiration for what Scientology had achieved.
Tragic story.
looks like OSA is dislike bombing your video. this just proves how desperate the CO$ is.
When your ex wife have become homeless I believe you said you guys were still together why didn't you offer her a place to stay? So she would at least have a roof over her head just wondering
Read his relative's comment above for an answer to that question.
I've been a fan of the Incredibles since the seventies. When I heard of Scientology I used to think that couldn't be so bad since people like Robin or Mike (or Chick Corea, for that matter) came up with such wonderful music. But, wow. Being the least spiritual person you can think of, I never cared for that more than I cared for the Children of God, for instance, or any other crap like that (as the joke goes, I don't believe my own religion, even when it's the real one). This is a truly sad story about Likky. It really breaks my heart.
david is not too old for a spank! it's overdue about 40 years,he's a very naughty boy!
She just vanished off the face of the earth. So sad. To be fair, she did a lot of acid, they are definition of acid-folk if ever there was such a band. English-folk psychedelia. A high priestess of psychedelia to thousands.....at Woodstock, hundreds of thousands.....easy transition to the ego-stroking scientology.
The ISB was Scottish with a strong Celtic influence.
One thing confuses me a little with regards to him & his ex-wife ‘Likky’ (short for Licorice). If they were married when she was that messed up & (even though it would have done no good) Scientology refused to help her further why didn’t he get her other help? He wasn’t OT just starting out in Scientology so wouldn’t it make sense that with no other options he would take her to a mental health facility? Yes I know, once a Scientologist has been committed they can never again receive auditing. But if it’s that or homelessness? I don’t understand I wish he could explain what he was thinking at the time. I’m not judging him I’m just genuinely curious.
A person sharing his last name answers that question in a comment above.
That’s because people like him, despite all their clever talk are just that: lots of talk but no substance whatsoever. Basically utter crap.. 👎🏼
Hi Matthew, when Likky and I were together she would always fantasies about the old women in Scotland called the tinkers. She said they were homeless and sold rags my pushing a wooden cart. She would tell me from time to time that she envied their disassociation from society.
When we got divorced she actually lived in vacant lots. She would walk miles and miles from Pasadena to LA, from Montrose (where her boyfriend lives) back to LA.
She was actually happy just like she thought about the tinkers. When I found here in the back yard of my house she was in a depressed state. She would go from being extremely happy to extremely depressed.
I did not have the means to help her. Nor did I know anything about mental illness. But to be clear, Likky chose to be homeless. She actually was happy being free. But she did go down into deep depression.
Her boyfriend was delusional also. He said he was L RON Hubbard come back in his body. Likky believed him. I was dealing with mental conditions I had no understanding of.
Again, Likky chose to be homeless and on many occasions she told me she was happy to be out of the money grind of society.
I think she was a waitress from time to time. Scientology messed her up. Scientology messes up many people I knew.
@brian thank you for such a thorough response. I have known people who chose to disassociate from society in the same manner as Likky. It truly sounds like you did all you could for her, it is very difficult to connect with anyone who is not entirely in reality even of they need assistance.
... GET FREAKING REAL Brian!!! ... Likki Was NEVER Happy Being Homeless!!! ... (NO ONE Is EVER Happy Being Homeless Were You When We Ended Up Homeless???!!!) ... When You Told Me She Was Living In A Cardboard Box In OUR BACK ALLEY (not our backyard as we had no backyard) For Two Weeks I Was Pissed At You For Leaving Her There And Not Telling Me!!! ... When I Asked Her Into Our Home She Cried In My Arms In DEEP GRATITUDE Brian And I Supported You Both!!! ... You Are Still Justifying And Rationalizing Your Lack Of Respect And Support Of And For Women SMH!!! ... Shame On You Brian!!! ...
Margaret and I hope you are doing well Dawn.
... Say Hi To Margaret For Me!!! ...
Brian Thomas Lambert i hope you’re doing well lambert, as you sound like a creep.
I am pretty sure that you had done other services before falling with the idea that Hubbard was who he said in Hymn of Asia that only came out in 1974, when $cientology was already booming. That service wich probably included torturing yourself on TR0 Confrontation... or going through the purif... Hubbard could not just tell people that he was this or that. Eventhough he was very carismatic. There had to be strong coercition technics before that. But you are on the right path. Thanks for sharing. You are very courageous.
I can beat 35 cents - All OT levels are free on Wikileaks....
Love Christina `Licorice´ McKechnnie
what's a "marcab conspiracy"? Did he mean "macabre"?
There seems to be a lot of obsession with Scientology terms here: 'AO' , or 'OT3'... are you sure you guys have really gotten over this?
Buddha is not pronounced boooda
ISB:- 22:40
Hello
Oh yea Brian, does it count that I got them for free... from you? Your ex sister in-law.
Ingo Swann - Remote Viewing. quickie grades were blamed in the beginning for many things.