Wont be surprised when her fiance dumps her when she solves the mystery but then gets up on her feet a few seconds later since she helped solve a mystery.
It was such a great character moment, and so immensely satisfying to see BoJack treat PB with respect and friendship. I think we all felt some of what Mr. PB felt in that scene.
I was so proud of BoJack for saying “i remember everything. I’m sober now.” Accepting responsibility, but understanding that it wasn’t entirely his fault. The therapy horse should have been able to tell that the vodka wasn’t water. Vodka tastes nothing like water. If anything that therapy horse noticed it was vodka and continued to drink it, and after getting sober, chose to get drunk again. The only thing that BoJack should accept responsibility for is allowing for the vodka to get in his hands in the first place.
Yeah I like how the therapy horse just throwing all the guilt at bojack is exactly what bojack needed. He needed that to realize that " yeah I did mess up but it's not all on me and part of it is on you "
Pre-CISE-ly. Life is always a complicated mess, and neither BoJack nor the therapy horse nor anyone else would gain anything by oversimplifying it into "it's all your fault, BoJack!"
Bojack instantly recognized it for what it was--a self-loathing horse taking out their self-hate on bojack, something he experienced throughout his entire childhood. His decision to become sober and take responsibility is such an opposite mindset of all the other horses in his life, so he can instantly disarm the attempt to make him feel more guilty. No one can make him feel guilty now. It's up to him.
Right?? He only cared about the consequences after it was certain and clear what he had done was exposed. He didn't care about his husband that much or that would have been his first reason to stop drinking the moment he tasted vodka.
The fact that it ended up it Doctor’s hands was a ridiculous fluke. Not Bojack’s fault. Yes, he should have disposed of the water bottle responsibly, but he didn’t even have a chance to take a second to realize that after the fact.
My favorite part of Bojack's story is the flash backs of his seemingly first time drinking, and each time he's younger... and younger... and younger...
I saw someone else point out that the youngest wasn't even the first, bc what child wouldn't wince when trying vodka? He knew exactly how it would make him feel even, as we see him crawl into his mom's lap to sleep
@@carbonara5922 It's a difficult line the writers have to balance. They don't want to be too harsh on Bojack who has worked so hard to improve his life, yet they certainly don't want to make it seem like his past behavior should be forgiven without consequences. I think Bojack should do jail time. He also should accept it willingly. That way he will be able to atone for his sins. The final episode could be set several years later after Bojack has been released. We can see where everyone's lives are several years later.
I reckon it's all going to go to shit and he's going to leave LA behind and go to the desert, see the running horses from Season 3, get out of his car and run with them whilst Wild Horses by the Rolling Stones plays as the credits roll.
some things i forgot to say in the last stream if bojack discussed the loss of his mother for some closure and if doctor champ has patient confidentiallity because if not, doctor champ is free to sell bojack's secrets to the press to get money and revenge that bojack got him drunk and fired
Doctor Champ does not have doctor-patient confidentiality because he is not a real doctor. His first name is Doctor. So I'm guessing that's exactly what is going to happen. He will sell all the secrets that Bojack told for revenge. The world will know all the horrible things Bojack did.
That's one of the reason why these two are 90s sitcom stars. Too bad BoJack's TV career went down the drain after he choked his co-star, due to painkillers which he took too much.
I kinda feel the opposite, I know it needs an ending, but I could watch Bojack Horseman forever. When I remember what happens in the show, it's not from season, it's like they're real. It's hard to explain, but the show seems so different from the Simpsons or Family Guy.
@@doiu92 yeah, it's a it's a dark comedy drama that focuses on depression and mental issues. Simpsons and FG don't focus on those at all or only shows them for shock value and cuts away. The problem is, how long can you keep that going? Especially when each character has an ark, personality and more or less development from beginning to end and that is the main focus. You'd eventually have to take focus away from an already developing Bojack, and if season 6 didn't start yet guess we could continue from...what? Continuing to see Bojack constantly screw up, understand the situation but then have a dark ending only leading to another mishap? I'm not saying the story would be stuck but since it's a character and story driven show, it's imo, in no shape to continue on till the writers get fatigue and do some horrendous episodes. But by all means, just because it's the ending doesn't mean the writers might not have more story to tell. I know the ending were getting in January is only because it's being cancelled. But, if there is more, maybe the show can get re-bought by someone. That's what happened to Futurama and hell, even Family guy which was cancelled and placed back on television. Depending on what ending we get, gives ideal freedom of what to think or do next, at least that's what I think so far.
@@kawaiicookiuwu3322 Given that the premiere was postponed and they were given extra episodes to wrap things up, I get the feeling that it was not of their own volition. I'd rather it end too soon than too late, but I just would have liked to have seen it run its full course.
I’m actually kind of glad it’s ending. Most good shows should really only run for six to nine seasons. By Season 10 is normally when the show begins to rot.
I loved season 6, it just felt so much more positive than 1 to 5. I think Bojack will pull through the repercussions of his actions. People won't forgive him, and will still be damaged but Bojack won't go back to how he was.
I think he is line for some sort of redemption, but he will pay a price and prove that he has changed, even if he doesn't get all of his celebrity perks back.
I like your review. And believe me season 5 episode "Showstopper" was the most darkest episode ever, and choking girls is wrong and it could reach your Breaking Point.
I feel like Bojack hating horses is definitely a retcon. I mean think about, his childhood idol was Secretariat who is a freaking horse for crying out loud! This season is amazing, but that scene really confused me.
I felt a similar sort of confusion and saw some mixing of characterization But then I considered another notoriously controversial figure that a lot of us cant get enough of: O N I O N B O Y (aka Onision here on TH-cam) and in general, the sort of dissassociative, nihilistic attitude young people--like his target audience, or those with the same pubescent mental capacity like him--tend to have they have this learned disgust and distain for "other humans", Onision very often using degrading language to describe individuals, groups, and fictional characters alike. He uses this perspective of an "alien" to other people, some subversive persona that is detached from the people around them. But, being that he and his characters/self-inserts are still human people with inevitable (yet never resolved or actualized) flaws, he also protrays a pathetic sense of aelf hatred and punishment for associating with people at any level. In simple terms, he hates people, and being a person himself, he hates himself too He begrudgingly picks at every flaw of his parents, of his peers, even of his icons and especially of himself for they are all people, they are all inherently faulty and worthy of his scorn for just b e i n g. That sort of nihilst, incensed and distant attitude can be attributed to Bojacks internal and projected hatred of horses, including himself He sees so much blame and hatred of the unforgivable horses who raised him, the horse that was his idol but didnt seem to be as valorous once he took his life, the horse who he thought was his offspring but just became an estranged family member, and especially the horse he has to see in his mirror, on his walls and screens and everywhere else, the horse who he has become. So I believe a lot of that sort of mindset and the bizarre characterization/description couldve been intentional in presenting such a relationship between a horse and the other horse-people in his life But this, thankfully, is not insufferably magnified and awfully portrayed as poor ol' Onion Boy's prose is :)
Rozeh Kakes Onision is astronomically worse, but I love your analysis. It’s helped me see more insight into Bojack’s character on a deeper level as oppose to just chalking it up to a retcon/inconsistency. At least Bojack is more human, empathetic, remorseful, and caring compared to OnionCunt.
I'm glad I wasn't the only one who felt BoJack's internalized self-hatred of horses came out of left field. It's a cool idea for his character but they never really hinted at it in earlier seasons
I think it's reflected in the fact that he didn't have a single horse friend before Champ. season 6 is the first time we're seeing horses besides his parents tho there was that time when he saw those horses running at the end of season 3. I feel like he's very much a "out of sight out of mind" kind of guy, he's an unreliable narrator because he lies to himself and when the narrative focuses on him we only see what he sees, like with Jamieson
@@whitenoise3447 at the beginning he thought he was her dad right, so I'm guessing he felt responsible for her, and didn't want to make the same mistakes his parents did
@@olivertalks121 I mean yes, but at the same time, you don't really see Princess Carolyn talking to other cats. I mean, I think BoJack's internalized self-hatred of horses could work as a concept and would be cool to explore, I just wish the earlier seasons had shown some of this by making him really anxious around other horses that aren't his family or showing PC having some cat friends to show how strange it is BoJack doesn't talk to his species
Personally, I think it would make more sense if it was gone about in a different way. I'm no expert or anything, so please don't shit on me for saying this, but this is how I would have rather had it go down; it makes more sense to me if it were reversed. For example, he doesn't hate himself because he hates horses in general, he hates horses because he hates himself. I think he has plenty of other major reasons for his self-hatred besides simply being a horse. Perhaps other horses remind him of himself and that is why he hates them, not the other way around. In the church reenactment, when hes forgiving the other horses, he sees himself in them in a way. This, combined with the others also forgiving him, allows him to forgive himself. I think the show would have been better off just not including the concept at all, because I also had a "huh?" moment when it was established. Bojack has a large plethora of reasons to despise himself, the simple fact that he is a horse just seems unnecessary. We watched five entire seasons of Bojack doing things to feel shitty about, we don't need this thrown on there. Just how I feel about the subject.
@@rosesweetcharlotte I think he knows that he may have to pay a price (even though at the end of season five he argued that the constant guilt for his bad actions was considerable punishment), but that he still can have some sort of redemption. At least I hope so.
@@aarvlo What is that? Because it seems like part of the point of earlier seasons was that unless you actually do positive things, your inner thoughts don't really matter.
Slacker Engi 2 in that one clip from season 5 Diane says that no matter what is written about him, no body will hold him accountable for it. He needs to hold himself accountable for the actions that he has done. I’m guessing something like that will happen
God this show hit me hard especially this season when Bojack is finally accepting responsibilities for his actions. I could relate to both Bojack and Diane. I have experienced traumatic things when I was a teenager and when I went to college so as a result I started pushing people away and lashing out. I also didn’t have a father and I honestly hate him. Unfortunately I hurt those closest to me. I don’t have any friends anymore. I just have some associates and my family hate me now. My relationship with my boyfriend is going downhill. I went to three different therapists but I didn’t feel a connection with any of them. I’m trying to forgive myself and forgive those who hurt me but it’s hard.
None Ofyourbuisness not my business indeed, but if that's genuinely your thing, then you probably have daddy issues too. I hope you deal with it because all youre going to do with that is cause yourself and the women you fuck with more issues, which is probably also your thing, but things can change. And if your dad never told you this: Good luck out there, champ.
The face of depression has to be one of my favorite episodes. Theres just a surreal feeling of peace throughout the episode and I was really touched by bojack visit to diane where he wakes up and cleans her dirty apartment even though he takes her scarf it still moves me because I battle with depression and low motivation to clean my room.
It's really a testament to the writing of the show that I can simultaneously be rooting for the growth and well-being of a character while still demanding justice for the people's he's harmed.
I think Bojack will have his happy ending because as dark as this show can be, in the end, it’s message isn’t life is a never ending shit show. The real message I’ve always gotten from the show is that you should take responsibility for your actions and for your own happiness before you can take responsibility for anything else. So I don’t think the show will end in a dark place, I think that Bojack will take responsibility for everything he has done and face the consequences but will ultimately become a better person because of it.
It’s so upsetting that Netflix is making them end this show it’s been my favorite tv show of all time and I really just love it sucks to see it go but I’m excited to see how it ends
I’m glad to see it be wrapped up. 6 seasons is a good run. Shows like Family Guy and Simpsons should’ve stopped years ago and they’re slowly fading into obscurity. Imagine if Hendrix, Joplin, or Cobain lived past 27 and kept making music. Would they still be the legends they are now?
@@charlynzr7245 this is them getting cancelled tho. Its just nicer cuz Netflix knows a shit ton more people will cancel their subscription if there's no final season of Bojack since it became a flag ship show.
I think the thesis of this season if that Bojack can't be a good person until he faces the consequences of his past actions. So while a lot of people are theorizing a suicide Secretariat style, I do believe Bojack will step up and take full responsibility for his actions. Heck if in our world Chris Brown and Mel Gibson still have careers I can see BJ make a comeback at the very end of the show.
Oh there's gonna be a dead horse. Just not by suicide. Charloette will kill Bojack after Margo Martindale unsuccessfully tries to murder him at a major trial or some press conference. When that attempt is over, Bojack adds on to the list of things he's done wrong, apologizes to Margo and the director (since both were involved in the breaking and entering). Even the actress comes to forgive him. When the scene ends, he goes back to his old house to move a few things out. Charloette comes out of the shadows and says "this isn't for Herb. This for more than just my daughter. This is for me." And she shoots him. Diane finds out and decides to write another Bojack book. The full story.
@@the-Albino-Rhino I think what would happen is that Charlotte is gonna have a one-sided argument with BoJack and it's gonna cause an accident where BoJack falls of a cliff or something.
I think Bojack would definitely be fine with all these allegations given that, like what you said, celebrities do shit like that all the time. I don't think it would fit into the story's narrative, though. In order for Bojack to truly evolve as a person, he needs to hold himself accountable and take responsibility for his actions. Actually, it would be really crazy if the public did forgive Bojack and he hates it, because he wants others to hold him accountable so he doesn't have to do it himself. I can imagine him being pushed to do another movie or something like that, only for him to not allow it because he has to be held accountable by someone. If that someone isn't society, it has to be Bojack. This would be a very interesting path for the show to take, in my opinion.
Doctor Champ and BoJack, both recovering addicts, tasted the vodka. BoJack didn’t want to go back to his old ways so he spit it out. Why didn’t Doctor Champ? I’d say it’s because he’s not really healed. BoJack stated several times during the episode that the Pastiech mindset is that you’re powerless to your addiction. As soon as Doctor Champ has “one drop of alcohol”, it sends him down a “ruinous path”. He hasn’t identified the source of his addiction and is relying on external motivation (ex. his husband leaving him). He can’t take responsibility for his role in his relapse so he blames BoJack. BoJack has used this tactic enough times to know that letting himself do the same thing, taking out his pain on others, will keep him from moving forward. In the moment after Dr. Champ confirmed everything BoJack fears, BoJack chooses to own his role in the relapse, but recognizes that ultimately Dr. Champ made the choice to go back to drinking. The real ruinous path is not taking responsibility for your life and actions. P.s. sry it’s a long one I just thought it was such a sophisticated criticism of the rehab industry and I wanted to share my thoughts
It felt pretty good watching this season alongside reading doctor sleep and seeing how both bojack and danny and struggling alcoholics but have reached the point of accepting their guilt and now just trying to help others
I was absolutely shocked when it was revealed bojack Hates horses. It immediately clicked as the cause of his self destructive behavior. It’s so simple yet I never guessed it. Genius
I love this show the writing is some of the best ever I love it. This season might be my favorite. My favorite scene might be him getting the dye out of his hair him accepting the change. Also the song that plays when he’s in the church is outstanding
I love that we’re also seeing more of Todd, I would love to see his story come to light, likewise with Princess Carolyn, Diane, Mr. Peanutbutter maybe they’ll do spin-offs we have been seeing the same extras throughout the series (hopefully a different series same universe and we’d see Bojack Horseman in the background or something)nothing against Bojack Horseman I love this show it’s just it would be nice to see a different perspective in this world. All I am saying is this yes this is the last season of Bojack Horseman but that doesn’t have to be it for everyone else; also despite this world where there’s all this different forms of animals and etc there’s still wars going on (Cordova) let’s unpack that as well. I would watch PC’s life or Diane’s or Todd or Mr. Peanutbutter or Hollyhock’s life or Sarah Lynn, or even Sextina Aquafina from their own perspective after the end of this amazingly animated adult show it would be interesting. I hope to see more of Sarah Lynn and Bojack’s bender from Sarah Lynn’s eyes because through Bojack’s eyes we don’t really know how he got to where is or what led him there because he blacked out a lot Sarah Lynn seemed to know exactly where she is because even though she was doing the same drugs as Bojack she was still conscious and amazingly didn’t black out at all. If they don’t do any spin-offs or anything I’d really love to see the bender Sarah Lynn and Bojack went on from Sarah Lynn’s perspective because Bojack doesn’t remember much just bits and pieces, Todd’s past with his mother and biological father and see him reconnect with his mother and have a good relationship with Maude I think that Todd and Maude are so alike personality-wise that they’d work great together as a couple, and I would love to see Princess Carolyn reconnect with Ralph and Ralph being with Princess Carolyn enough to be her husband and also adopt Ruthie, Diane successful because of this new book that she’s writing and happy with Guy and meeting his son, Mr. Peanutbutter growing and not being stuck in his twenties and being finally happily married to Pickles because they are perfect for each other. Maybe Netflix will actually create Horsin’ Around as it’s own sitcom and or Mr. Peanutbutter’s House I would watch those sitcoms.
@Christopher Cruz I disagree. I think Todd is a great character. In the beginning of the show, he's portrayed as what some people would consider as a worthless, non-contributing member of society that does nothing productive and leeches off of Bojack like a parasite, but as the show continues, his character develops more and more and I really like it. He has ambition and dreams and he would have had a successful rock opera had it not been for Bojack willfully sabotaging it, which was a very important episode for developing Bojack's personality further. Bojack needs Todd to think he can never go anywhere beyond his couch, because Bojack needs Todd. As the show progresses and Todd engages in other business ventures, this is definitely shown more and more. Todd goes from being someone who leeches off of Bojack to becoming a much more mature adult who can actually succeed in life and I think he's a great character in the show that a lot of people can relate to, including myself. He's young, he has no real direction in life, but he persists and becomes more than just a waste of space. I agree that some of the Todd-focused episodes seem half-assed, but no show is perfect. I think Todd is a good character and he adds to my enjoyment of the show. You're entitled to your opinion and I'm entitled to mine, but these are just my thoughts.
I know this show has a very depressing overtone most of the time, but I'm hopeful that it won't end in bojack killing himself like many people speculate. He might get close but he will be stopped (by himself or someone else) who tells him than death isn't redemption and that he has to pay for his actions himself (just like with rehab) rather than taking the easy suicide route. Or at least I hope 😆
At the very least, _someone_ is dying, if only to give Bojack a final wake-up call before the end They subtly foreshadowed Diane dying a lot last season, almost as much as Bojack's had all this time in the intro, and Mr. Peanutbutter has been silently suffering but too delusional to even recognize his problems for so long, so neither of them would be that much of a stretch, especially with all the parallels they both have to Bojack
The intro scene where he falls from the Observatory into the darkness below makes it tough to think he won’t be dead by the end of the season. Besides, The Horse from Horsin’ Around died at the end of the show, and all Bojack’s done for the last five years is act like he’s still in that heyday.
@@Lazypackmule I'm worried Diane will commit suicide...it seems like she's only a few bad days away from hurting herself. Diane and Bojack's story arcs run parallel to each other (both characters struggle with self hatred, run away to far-off places in search of a new lease on life, come from abusive families and have trouble connecting with their heritage). It would be particularly painful and poignant if one character dies while the other survives. Personally, I don't think Bojack himself will die...after all, one of the show's main themes is that Bojack needs to face consequences, and staying alive is part of that.
I hope that Bojack is the one to remind himself of your version of redemption. I just think the message in that would be important, especially in Bojack's case. He needs to be a good influence on himself, and be able to encourage himself to make good decisions, instead of relying on others to keep him in line. I was gonna end this with, "but, it is Bojack, so..." but I think that would invalidate the possibility of redemption, and I do think if Bojack Horseman, the show, ended with Bojack Horseman, the horse, actually changing for the better, it would be cool (if not just less cliché as ending the series with the idea that bad people never change).
Lazypackmule I don't think someone dying is necessary for Bojack to realize that. I said this already in this thread but it would be more impactful if Bojack kept himself together in order to keep his life together instead of needing somebody else to do that, i.e. Sarah Lynn. Bojack, rather than needing a scapegoat, needs to not have a scapegoat. Him being exposed for all of his wrongdoings is enough. Although, as a side note and criticism of antipsychotic medications and ssris etc, it would be interesting if Diane died from being chemically poisoned from her meds....but that's obviously not going to happen, because it has nothing to do with the plot and would just be a random derailment, which they don't do on this series.
The symbolism of the stars in the vodka bottle is super depressing. Everyone wants to be the shining star, the famous, the successful and the rich. But yet it is exactly these things that corrupts our innocence. The success and fame is exactly what Bojack is trying to get rid of when he throws the vodka bottle away.
Man I am both scared and excited for what's next for Bojack Horseman. Like he's finally getting himself together but there's this tidal wave rushing at him. cannot wait to see if he hold on, and if so, how he's going to hold on.
It did come outta left field that bojack hates horses but I did accept it cuz yeah throughout the show he never hangs out or has any other horses in his life except for hollyhock. And she's the exception cuz she approached him with life changing news and he didnt wanna get close to her at first
Here early! I really enjoy Shady Doorag's Bojack analysis (analysi?) I have none to talk about all the juicy content and themes and Shady always gets it right and leaves viewers with great insight to form their own ideas. Kudos! And I loved the love the other day regardless of the sound man! Your voice is needed!!!
@@robgucci7663 im aware that someone who is an alcoholic, and who usually has a genetic predisposition, cant have a drink even if they have been sober for decades. this is because as soon as an alcoholic drinks, they instantly crave more and reason goes out of the window. that why alcoholism is a bitch.
a banana thats a good point, but then again, it seems odd for a person with that disposition to decide to work at a rehab facility and be a role model for others, not trying to put him down or anything. just my two cents
The Raw Truth yeah i kinda realized that just now as well. well if thats the case, doctor champ is abusing the system and not tackling his problems the right way. in the end he’s the weak one, not bojack
Bojack is a far bigger addict, and he had a far more normal reaction to taking a sip, it was disgusting to him after going so long without it, and he threw it away Beyond that, you would easily be able to smell the vodka before actually taking a drink, Champ wasn't tricked, he was just waiting for an excuse
Honestly so glad I found your channel. This video got my attention and I really liked your analysis of part 1 of season 6. Can’t wait for more videos about Bojack Horseman.
He's been waiting to be punished for his past constantly, now it's going to happen when he's at his highest moment. I'm hoping he leaves it in the past and brushes it off and continues trying to help the ones he loves. PS the second I posted that comment I realized I was talking about an animated show where the main character is a horse...
@BB Hoody The case against Bojack Horseman. 1. The episode where Sextina gets pregnant just happen to be the same episode Daine gets her abortion. This is because the writers dillbertly picked the most divisive subject matter possible. They new that it would divide the fans and get us to argue over weather what Daine did was ethical or not. All in attempt to keep us distracted from the fact that the show never told us "who" got Sextina pregnant. Diane whole abortion story is a red herring. 2. In the same episode, Bojack himself admits that he's payed off past women into getting abortions and even shows fears if any of them kept it. At first this may look like forshadowing Hollyhock, but we now know she isn't his daughter. That story in season 4 was also a red herring design to get us to forget about this moment and not realize that scene was forshadowing Bojacks "real" child. (Not to mention Sextina is an even bigger and wealthier celebrity then Bojack. So simply paying her may not have even worked on her. 3. In her Abortion Music video Sextina is seen dancing with a male "Zebra". Bojack was an "Angsty Zebra" for one episode. This is forshadowing that Sextina thinks horse like creatures are attractive looking. 4. In the same Abortion episode, Bojack attempts to prank George Clooners by beatimg him with a baseball bat, to prove pranks are stupid. In order to do this he gets a job as a limo driver. When the prank fails he saids that he needs to pick up someone for a "Bachelorette Party" and then puts on a "ballcap" with the word "slut" on it. Through out the same episode Sexitan is seen wearing different "Ballcaps". The slut cap bojack puts on is part of her merch. Bojack had to wear it because she is a guest at the event. This is where they had sex. 5. She was 17 at the time of the episode. The same age as "Penny". She's also a sex addict and narcissistic, like bojack. 6. When Daine confronts Bojack about Penny at the Philbert premier, he listed other women that he also needs to apologize too. The very first one he lists is when he asks Daine: "Do you want to know why I can't go to the MTV Beach house?" MTV=teenage popstar Beach=Dolphin 7. In the same scene you can see ads for Philbert saying "What Did You Do?" And "Don't Tell Her Anything!". You can also see the web address for WhatTimeIsItRightNow.com. At this moment the adress is being used as a stand in for #TimesUp 8. Bojack new cloths at the end of the last episode are very similar to Mr. Peanutbutters "Birthday Dad" cloths. Suggesting Bojack will learn that he's a father. 9. The show has been hinting at that Bojack has secretly wanted to be a father. So wouldn't it be a dark twist full of tragic irony if he finally gets it, only for it to be the thing that brings him down? 10. Bojack already almost had sex with a 17 year old. He had sex with Sarah Lynne, who was the closet thing he had to a daughter. He slept with Todds girlfriend, whose also young enough to be his daughter and he chocked Gina. If he was left alone with Sextina, he wouldn't be able to control himself. 11. The first time we meet Sextina in season 1, she said: "They want Sextina Aquafina BABY!" And there seem to be an emphasis on the word "Baby". Suggesting that the writers were forshadowing her pregnancy very early on.....which would be an intersting move if it wasn't going to be something important later. EDIT: Almost Forgot. 12. There are two possible reasons on why he hasn't brought it up to anyone. 1. He simply doesn't remember it. He was either on drugs or drunk at the time they had sex and blocked the memory out of his mind. Just like he did with his assault of Gina. He's completely unaware that he even did anything wrong with her, or only has a vauge idea of what happened. The 2nd possible explanation: He's a master manipulater. He's manipulating fans of the show just like he has done with everyone one else in his life. Its one of the shows meta 4th wall breaks, only this time designed to get us to know exactly how it feels to be gaslighted, lied too or betrayed by Bojack. Like he did to Todd, PC, all his girlfriends, Diane and others.
@Instrumentality1000 How would it be any different from Penny or Sarah Lynne? Bojack already corssed that line with a teenager. He was "going" to have sex with Penny. The only thing that stoped him was that Charlotte "stoped" them before they could do it. Also what he did with Sarah Lynne was pretty much borderline incest and sexual abuse. It was played for laughs at first like other shows would do, but as the story went on we got to see the real life unfunny consequences Bojacks actions had on her. So he already crossed that red line twice before the abortion episode. Also he was probably at his most self-destructive in the same season that Sextina gets pregnant. He wasn't getting the help he needed yet and at this point in the show he was still a really horrible guy. 2nd. I think Bojack and Sextina would go for each other if they were left alone. Would it help if we just pretend for a moment that she was in her 20s or 30s through out the whole show? Can you picture them getting along now? They're both party animals (no pun intended), they both have huge egos, they both can't control their sexual erges, and they're both self-destructive. If Sextina was a lot older it would be more shocking if she and Bojack didn't go for each other. They have some things in common personality wise. Sextina is also similar to Sarah Lynne in some ways (who Bojack did have sex with). Like Sarah Lynne, she was a kid thrust into the entertainment world and turned into a a creepy sex icon. Which also lead her down a self-destructive path. Bojack might be attracted to her because she reminds him of Sarah Lynne. I will give you this. Its possible that the Zebra in the music video is really the father. That thought did cross my mind as a possible debunker of my theory, but I still think its a pretty big coincidence that bojack becomes a Zebra in a latter episode (aslo after rewatching the Bobo episode. I just notice that Flip, the sexually perverted film director that forced Bojack to perform a nude scene, becomes "Flippy" a "Dolphin".....intersting) The show also has a history of forshadowing future events in ways that are similar to what I described. For example, when we first meet Sarah Lynn as an adult, all the way back in season 1, she performs her music video at the "planetarium" where she dies. At the end of the same episode, she pretty much told both Bojack and the audiences how her story would end.
Yeah, I find BoJack "hatred of horses" kinda dumb 1. He loves Hollyhock and admired Secretariat, two horses 2. When he saw a bunch of horses running back in season 4, he wanted to join He hates his parents, sure. But all horses? That's a streach. Heck, he doesn't even hate Doctor Champ
If we remember in season 5, Bojack pretty much BEGGED Diane to write a callout piece since he couldn’t take responsibility for his actions. He needed someone to hold him accountable. And now that you mention he’s close to being “canceled” I feel like it parallels that. He’ll get his call out post, but we’ll have to see this time if he can take responsibility for himself.
I imagine maybe he'll go "Yes. I did all of that. I'm sorry". Diane knows about Penny. But I'm not sure if she knows about his part in Sarah Lynn's overdose death and him giving booze to minors.
I've been waiting for this since the season came out! I hope you'll be able to dive in a little more-- I'm curious about your opinion of Diane, Todd and others this season
The thing the priest says at the end might be a message from the writers to the audience. They're basically saying "Hey, if you want, you can find solace in this ending and believe that this is how it ends, peacefully, but if you want to continue on this journey, we start over in 30 minutes"
I dunno, I liked season 5... wasn't the best...but I like this whole show. When this show first came out, I never had access to it, so I'm thankful for all the seasons.
It's sad that Bojack isn't dealing with the real issues which is what he did to people outside of his friend circle. It's a cop out that the show won't let him get away with.
Bojack did try to deal with it. He asked Diane to write a hit piece on him so others would hold him accountable, to which she said no one is going to do that. He has to hold himself accountable. Also, Diane wrote Bojack's book which revealed all the horrible stuff he did pre-season 1, and it just made everyone see him as more human and love him more.
Shady Doorags You just proved my point. Bojack goes to other people (mostly Diane) and begged to be torn down, that's not dealing with his problems or changing. If Bojack really desires to deal with his mistakes then he would write an article, book, video or anything and take responsibility for his actions and change his behavior. Avoiding that critical step creates a timebomb that will force him to confront his mistakes by losing his fame and money like Cosby, Louis CK, Matt Lauer, etc. That's why the reporters/#metoo analogy will take him down during the second half of the season. Bojack will be annihilated by the story that he refused to write in the first season and every season since because he hasn't changed, he just feels guilty. I won't feel guilty seeing Bojack get what he deserves.
@@vingram100 He still attempted to deal with it himself couple of times. Like that time when he wanted to confess about what he did to Gina but she herself stopped him or the time he tried to apologise to Kelsey by writing her a letter but failed solely because the letter was unreadable because of the smeared ink, and also the time he wanted to make another movie with Kelsey but because of PC the film production was denied.
@@vingram100 Louis and Matt still have more money than most of us will ever see in our lives, just like most of the other men in show business and broadcasting whose abuses have become public knowledge. The show's been really good at critiquing America's toxic cult of celebrity, and extremely ham-handed about the power of money. As fucked up as it would be for BoJack to get away with no jail time or financial damage, it wouldn't be out of character for the show
In 1:00 diane says that no matter what is written about him, no body is going to hold him accountable for it. He needs to hold himself accountable for the things that he has done in the past. Foreshadowing?
I think the ending is gonna be Bojack giving up his material possesions and life in Hollwoo as a result of his Meetooing. The public will think he's suffering and lost everything when in reality he'll be living a simpler life and much happier as a result. Showing that the material things society pushes you to wanting so you can be happy are pointless and only a healthy mindset and active self betterment make you happy.
BoJack's frantic pursuit of fame and fortune in Hollywoo was one of the main symptoms of that problem. In a larger way, the show is one of the best ongoing satires of American celebrity culture.
I binge watched Bojack within 3 days last month, and i always said i liked the first 2 seasons and condemned the rest But with this video i've realised that the writing surrounding bojack himself is great
The deep meaning of Bojack still taking his mother to a retirement, even after what she did, that’s something all kids struggle with their parents. Their own parents have to raise their kids and try to hide the shitty person they used to be for now
As sad as it is knowing Bojack will be publically cancelled...it's for the best. I mean, I know he learned and he could live the rest of his life in peace, but what about those he hurt? He's not the one who has suffered THE MOST and ending it that way would be unfair to his victims.
how does bojack being cancelled help them at all however? not saying he doesn’t have it coming but the show even states that cancellations and take downs are only temporary and just a trend for the public. bojack’s public image being soiled does nothing to amend his past actions. gina will still have ptsd, kelsey will still be out of work, and penny and charlotte will still have trust issues. the only thing i can think of is the family of the girl he got drunk getting financially compensated or something.
@@robgucci7663 Well, look at Gina for example, her PTSD isn't the problem, but that since no one knows what she's going through, she's just unfairly treated as a difficult actress. We don't know much about Charlotte and Penny, but considering what happened, I don't think they would want to allow Bojack to hurt other young girls (or maybe the journalists will just put the info out against their will, the point is that they have the right to speak up)
Matt I. I don’t really see your take on Gina. She isn’t unfairly treated in my eyes, she has a lot of priority and the director is putting a lot out of his way just to make things more to her liking. She’s seen as difficult because that’s what she is simply, which leads to frustration. But the crew and media don’t disrespect her, quite the opposite. She’s one of the biggest actresses in Hollywoo and people only have good things to say about her acting and potential. Plus, I think most people who have a brain in the industry are well aware of what she went through. Being able to publicly declare “Bojack Horseman physically assaulted me in a drug induced rage” doesn’t affect her trauma or her career. The only way she can move forward in her life is self healing and maybe closure with a reformed Bojack. Not the few weeks of half assed attention and support she’ll get from the public. As for the Charlotte and Penny, I think what they want most is just to be a simple happy family. Bojack will always be a stain on that, but they are moving on. Having the whole country focused on them and the terrible night they suffered would only ruin their simple happy life. Yes, Charlotte’s image of Bojack is forever changed and she is certainly fearful of what he is capable of doing to young girls, but I doubt she thinks he is a monster who needs to be locked up and she has to sacrifice her family’s solace just to protect the girls of the world. But I do agree with you that the journalists won’t care what they think. That’s just my interpretation of the show though. Could be wrong, but we’ll have to wait and see. Maybe the outcry is what gives Bojack the motivation to sincerely apologize to Gina and she can function normally again. But I think when this dark story drops, it’s only purpose is to see if Bojack can face the consequences regardless how bad they seem, and regardless that he’s changed. If he can accept it, and still continue to better himself, he succeeded.
I remember when treesicle made a video on bojack horseman They said that we all have this little candle burning inside of us wanting to grow bigger wanting to become this ranging fire we count on to keep us warm it grows when we are happy it diminishes when we eff up but no one tells us what happens when that light goes out However this season is different I remeber my last comment was there is not cure all of yourself and thats still true there is not "happy ending" you have to write your own And maybe just maybe Your light can be shined again Your candle can be relit anytime As long as you let it This has been a random commenter Farewell so long Auf Wiederesehen goodbye See you all in part 2
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The real crime is that that pig woman is keeping her fiancée waiting.
Is that what she is? I thought she was some aardvark thing. Is she a peckery?
Watch her fiance be a frog
@@JaneDoe-gu5sb I'm pretty sure she's a boar.
@@JaneDoe-gu5sb She's a boar.
Wont be surprised when her fiance dumps her when she solves the mystery but then gets up on her feet a few seconds later since she helped solve a mystery.
I almost started crying when Mr. Peanutbutter finally got his "crossover episode" from Bojack.
It was such a great character moment, and so immensely satisfying to see BoJack treat PB with respect and friendship. I think we all felt some of what Mr. PB felt in that scene.
I did cry when that happened
I did cry
I absolutely started sobbing- even though I lost a LOT of love I had for Mr.PB with his cheating on Pickles, but that moment was so great
Sadly, it's too little, too late, though. I haven't thought about the nineties in years. All the 9/11 BS and other things.
I was so proud of BoJack for saying “i remember everything. I’m sober now.” Accepting responsibility, but understanding that it wasn’t entirely his fault. The therapy horse should have been able to tell that the vodka wasn’t water. Vodka tastes nothing like water. If anything that therapy horse noticed it was vodka and continued to drink it, and after getting sober, chose to get drunk again. The only thing that BoJack should accept responsibility for is allowing for the vodka to get in his hands in the first place.
Yeah I like how the therapy horse just throwing all the guilt at bojack is exactly what bojack needed. He needed that to realize that " yeah I did mess up but it's not all on me and part of it is on you "
Pre-CISE-ly. Life is always a complicated mess, and neither BoJack nor the therapy horse nor anyone else would gain anything by oversimplifying it into "it's all your fault, BoJack!"
Bojack instantly recognized it for what it was--a self-loathing horse taking out their self-hate on bojack, something he experienced throughout his entire childhood. His decision to become sober and take responsibility is such an opposite mindset of all the other horses in his life, so he can instantly disarm the attempt to make him feel more guilty. No one can make him feel guilty now. It's up to him.
Right?? He only cared about the consequences after it was certain and clear what he had done was exposed. He didn't care about his husband that much or that would have been his first reason to stop drinking the moment he tasted vodka.
The fact that it ended up it Doctor’s hands was a ridiculous fluke. Not Bojack’s fault. Yes, he should have disposed of the water bottle responsibly, but he didn’t even have a chance to take a second to realize that after the fact.
My favorite part of Bojack's story is the flash backs of his seemingly first time drinking, and each time he's younger... and younger... and younger...
Yea,and the worst part is
He first drank it back when he was a *kid*
I feel like the line
“When wasn’t the first time I drank”
Kinda foreshadowed that and that’s what I love about this show
I saw someone else point out that the youngest wasn't even the first, bc what child wouldn't wince when trying vodka? He knew exactly how it would make him feel even, as we see him crawl into his mom's lap to sleep
That preach speech in the church summoned up this show pretty well
I'm kind of afraid for what's coming in part 2. There is still a chance for some kind of happy ending for Bojack, but it will not be easy.
I just hope it doesn't end up in a wrapped up neat little package sprinkled with saccharine or *I will need a Vodka.*
@@dollydagger4306 I trust they'll do it right
@@carbonara5922 It's a difficult line the writers have to balance. They don't want to be too harsh on Bojack who has worked so hard to improve his life, yet they certainly don't want to make it seem like his past behavior should be forgiven without consequences. I think Bojack should do jail time. He also should accept it willingly. That way he will be able to atone for his sins. The final episode could be set several years later after Bojack has been released. We can see where everyone's lives are several years later.
I reckon it's all going to go to shit and he's going to leave LA behind and go to the desert, see the running horses from Season 3, get out of his car and run with them whilst Wild Horses by the Rolling Stones plays as the credits roll.
I think its either gonna end with him going to prison or him commiting suicide
some things i forgot to say in the last stream
if bojack discussed the loss of his mother for some closure and if doctor champ has patient confidentiallity because if not, doctor champ is free to sell bojack's secrets to the press to get money and revenge that bojack got him drunk and fired
Doctor Champ does not have doctor-patient confidentiality because he is not a real doctor. His first name is Doctor. So I'm guessing that's exactly what is going to happen. He will sell all the secrets that Bojack told for revenge. The world will know all the horrible things Bojack did.
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Y'all were right lmaoo
Foreshadowing
I like that you used the clip of my favorite moment when pb gets his crossover episode
Genuinely heartwarming and hilarious scene. So brilliant.
That scene was so nice, especially since Mr. PB really needed it
I loved watching Peanutbutter geeking out and getting teary eyed about it.
That's one of the reason why these two are 90s sitcom stars. Too bad BoJack's TV career went down the drain after he choked his co-star, due to painkillers which he took too much.
Part 2 has me more scared than any horror movie could ever hope to.
There certainly a massive shit storm coming his way it going to be biblical.
The only thing scarier than part 2 is John Carpenter's thing.
Glad it's ending, this doesn't seem like a show that should thrive on life support like Simpsons and Family Guy.
I kinda feel the opposite, I know it needs an ending, but I could watch Bojack Horseman forever. When I remember what happens in the show, it's not from season, it's like they're real. It's hard to explain, but the show seems so different from the Simpsons or Family Guy.
@@doiu92 yeah, it's a it's a dark comedy drama that focuses on depression and mental issues. Simpsons and FG don't focus on those at all or only shows them for shock value and cuts away.
The problem is, how long can you keep that going? Especially when each character has an ark, personality and more or less development from beginning to end and that is the main focus.
You'd eventually have to take focus away from an already developing Bojack, and if season 6 didn't start yet guess we could continue from...what? Continuing to see Bojack constantly screw up, understand the situation but then have a dark ending only leading to another mishap? I'm not saying the story would be stuck but since it's a character and story driven show, it's imo, in no shape to continue on till the writers get fatigue and do some horrendous episodes.
But by all means, just because it's the ending doesn't mean the writers might not have more story to tell. I know the ending were getting in January is only because it's being cancelled. But, if there is more, maybe the show can get re-bought by someone. That's what happened to Futurama and hell, even Family guy which was cancelled and placed back on television.
Depending on what ending we get, gives ideal freedom of what to think or do next, at least that's what I think so far.
@@kawaiicookiuwu3322 Given that the premiere was postponed and they were given extra episodes to wrap things up, I get the feeling that it was not of their own volition. I'd rather it end too soon than too late, but I just would have liked to have seen it run its full course.
I’m actually kind of glad it’s ending. Most good shows should really only run for six to nine seasons. By Season 10 is normally when the show begins to rot.
Kawaii Cooki UwU you mean arc
lowkey terrified how the new mexico storyline will end up
I loved season 6, it just felt so much more positive than 1 to 5. I think Bojack will pull through the repercussions of his actions. People won't forgive him, and will still be damaged but Bojack won't go back to how he was.
I think he is line for some sort of redemption, but he will pay a price and prove that he has changed, even if he doesn't get all of his celebrity perks back.
For that heartwarming first half, we're likely going to pay with a second half that will be even more grueling than the previous season finales.
Great vid, Shady!
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Finally...been waiting for his review
Johnny 2 Cellos oh hi👋
The Raw Truth you said the thing😆
I like your review. And believe me season 5 episode "Showstopper" was the most darkest episode ever, and choking girls is wrong and it could reach your Breaking Point.
Not gonna lie, I almost teared up when Mr. Peanutbutter finally got his crossover episode I started crying.
I feel like Bojack hating horses is definitely a retcon. I mean think about, his childhood idol was Secretariat who is a freaking horse for crying out loud! This season is amazing, but that scene really confused me.
BB Hoody He still admires him even in his adult hood though. He even played Secretariat which he considered his dream role.
I felt a similar sort of confusion and saw some mixing of characterization
But then I considered another notoriously controversial figure that a lot of us cant get enough of: O N I O N B O Y (aka Onision here on TH-cam)
and in general, the sort of dissassociative, nihilistic attitude young people--like his target audience, or those with the same pubescent mental capacity like him--tend to have
they have this learned disgust and distain for "other humans", Onision very often using degrading language to describe individuals, groups, and fictional characters alike. He uses this perspective of an "alien" to other people, some subversive persona that is detached from the people around them.
But, being that he and his characters/self-inserts are still human people with inevitable (yet never resolved or actualized) flaws, he also protrays a pathetic sense of aelf hatred and punishment for associating with people at any level.
In simple terms, he hates people, and being a person himself, he hates himself too
He begrudgingly picks at every flaw of his parents, of his peers, even of his icons
and especially of himself
for they are all people, they are all inherently faulty and worthy of his scorn for just b e i n g.
That sort of nihilst, incensed and distant attitude can be attributed to Bojacks internal and projected hatred of horses, including himself
He sees so much blame and hatred of the unforgivable horses who raised him, the horse that was his idol but didnt seem to be as valorous once he took his life, the horse who he thought was his offspring but just became an estranged family member, and especially the horse he has to see in his mirror, on his walls and screens and everywhere else, the horse who he has become.
So I believe a lot of that sort of mindset and the bizarre characterization/description couldve been intentional in presenting such a relationship between a horse and the other horse-people in his life
But this, thankfully, is not insufferably magnified and awfully portrayed as poor ol' Onion Boy's prose is :)
Rozeh Kakes Onision is astronomically worse, but I love your analysis. It’s helped me see more insight into Bojack’s character on a deeper level as oppose to just chalking it up to a retcon/inconsistency. At least Bojack is more human, empathetic, remorseful, and caring compared to OnionCunt.
@@jinxthatsme2317 Glad I could give some extra insight
And yup, Onion Man is insufferable 😅
I'm glad I wasn't the only one who felt BoJack's internalized self-hatred of horses came out of left field. It's a cool idea for his character but they never really hinted at it in earlier seasons
I think it's reflected in the fact that he didn't have a single horse friend before Champ. season 6 is the first time we're seeing horses besides his parents tho there was that time when he saw those horses running at the end of season 3. I feel like he's very much a "out of sight out of mind" kind of guy, he's an unreliable narrator because he lies to himself and when the narrative focuses on him we only see what he sees, like with Jamieson
oliver okay, interesting thought, so why do you think he doesn't shit on or avoid Hollyhock?
@@whitenoise3447 at the beginning he thought he was her dad right, so I'm guessing he felt responsible for her, and didn't want to make the same mistakes his parents did
@@olivertalks121 I mean yes, but at the same time, you don't really see Princess Carolyn talking to other cats. I mean, I think BoJack's internalized self-hatred of horses could work as a concept and would be cool to explore, I just wish the earlier seasons had shown some of this by making him really anxious around other horses that aren't his family or showing PC having some cat friends to show how strange it is BoJack doesn't talk to his species
Personally, I think it would make more sense if it was gone about in a different way. I'm no expert or anything, so please don't shit on me for saying this, but this is how I would have rather had it go down; it makes more sense to me if it were reversed. For example, he doesn't hate himself because he hates horses in general, he hates horses because he hates himself. I think he has plenty of other major reasons for his self-hatred besides simply being a horse. Perhaps other horses remind him of himself and that is why he hates them, not the other way around. In the church reenactment, when hes forgiving the other horses, he sees himself in them in a way. This, combined with the others also forgiving him, allows him to forgive himself. I think the show would have been better off just not including the concept at all, because I also had a "huh?" moment when it was established. Bojack has a large plethora of reasons to despise himself, the simple fact that he is a horse just seems unnecessary. We watched five entire seasons of Bojack doing things to feel shitty about, we don't need this thrown on there. Just how I feel about the subject.
That pb crossover episode scene initially made me tear up when I saw it. What a wonderful payoff to one of the oldest jokes in the series.
Real celeberties are forgiven for troubled past regularly
They even showed it in season 5
I hope BoJack stays happy and doesn't commit suicide
But is it real forgiveness? And is it what he really wants? Or does he really want punishment?
@@rosesweetcharlotte I think he knows that he may have to pay a price (even though at the end of season five he argued that the constant guilt for his bad actions was considerable punishment), but that he still can have some sort of redemption. At least I hope so.
@@aarvlo What is that? Because it seems like part of the point of earlier seasons was that unless you actually do positive things, your inner thoughts don't really matter.
@@aarvlo Perhaps, but based on the experience in the church, maybe BoJack has set aside the worst of his self-loathing.
Slacker Engi 2 in that one clip from season 5 Diane says that no matter what is written about him, no body will hold him accountable for it. He needs to hold himself accountable for the actions that he has done. I’m guessing something like that will happen
_sometimes people who seem happy are actually the most depressed_
"oh no! i seem very happy!"
I'm 12 and i'm D E E P
@@peste2574 in deep how??
@@rudy8409 fucking corrector of my cellphone
Yeah.. i have a feeling Mr. Peanutbutter will get a sad ending..
I need part 2 like now because that last scene still turns my stomach LIKE NO HE JUST BECAME A GOOD PERSON NOOOOOO
God this show hit me hard especially this season when Bojack is finally accepting responsibilities for his actions. I could relate to both Bojack and Diane. I have experienced traumatic things when I was a teenager and when I went to college so as a result I started pushing people away and lashing out. I also didn’t have a father and I honestly hate him. Unfortunately I hurt those closest to me. I don’t have any friends anymore. I just have some associates and my family hate me now. My relationship with my boyfriend is going downhill. I went to three different therapists but I didn’t feel a connection with any of them. I’m trying to forgive myself and forgive those who hurt me but it’s hard.
even being able to admit that in writing on youtube speaks to your promise. hang in there, so sorry for the struggles in your life.
Soooo u got daddy issues nice
None Ofyourbuisness not my business indeed, but if that's genuinely your thing, then you probably have daddy issues too. I hope you deal with it because all youre going to do with that is cause yourself and the women you fuck with more issues, which is probably also your thing, but things can change. And if your dad never told you this: Good luck out there, champ.
I'm glad I found your channel, your videos are thoughtful and well fleshed out! You're doing awesome, Shady.
The face of depression has to be one of my favorite episodes. Theres just a surreal feeling of peace throughout the episode and I was really touched by bojack visit to diane where he wakes up and cleans her dirty apartment even though he takes her scarf it still moves me because I battle with depression and low motivation to clean my room.
Can we talk about Margo Martindale and how she's actually may be more than a comic relief in this season?
It's really a testament to the writing of the show that I can simultaneously be rooting for the growth and well-being of a character while still demanding justice for the people's he's harmed.
I think Bojack will have his happy ending because as dark as this show can be, in the end, it’s message isn’t life is a never ending shit show. The real message I’ve always gotten from the show is that you should take responsibility for your actions and for your own happiness before you can take responsibility for anything else. So I don’t think the show will end in a dark place, I think that Bojack will take responsibility for everything he has done and face the consequences but will ultimately become a better person because of it.
That bit where he throws the vodka out the window and it lands in a box of identical water bottles is one of the best gags of the whole show
It’s so upsetting that Netflix is making them end this show it’s been my favorite tv show of all time and I really just love it sucks to see it go but I’m excited to see how it ends
isn’t it better than bojack getting canceled though?
I’m glad to see it be wrapped up. 6 seasons is a good run. Shows like Family Guy and Simpsons should’ve stopped years ago and they’re slowly fading into obscurity.
Imagine if Hendrix, Joplin, or Cobain lived past 27 and kept making music. Would they still be the legends they are now?
Alex Becker probably yeah
@@charlynzr7245 this is them getting cancelled tho. Its just nicer cuz Netflix knows a shit ton more people will cancel their subscription if there's no final season of Bojack since it became a flag ship show.
The show creator himself actually was ok with the show ending.
I think the thesis of this season if that Bojack can't be a good person until he faces the consequences of his past actions. So while a lot of people are theorizing a suicide Secretariat style, I do believe Bojack will step up and take full responsibility for his actions. Heck if in our world Chris Brown and Mel Gibson still have careers I can see BJ make a comeback at the very end of the show.
Oh there's gonna be a dead horse. Just not by suicide. Charloette will kill Bojack after Margo Martindale unsuccessfully tries to murder him at a major trial or some press conference.
When that attempt is over, Bojack adds on to the list of things he's done wrong, apologizes to Margo and the director (since both were involved in the breaking and entering). Even the actress comes to forgive him.
When the scene ends, he goes back to his old house to move a few things out. Charloette comes out of the shadows and says "this isn't for Herb. This for more than just my daughter. This is for me." And she shoots him.
Diane finds out and decides to write another Bojack book. The full story.
@@the-Albino-Rhino I think what would happen is that Charlotte is gonna have a one-sided argument with BoJack and it's gonna cause an accident where BoJack falls of a cliff or something.
I think Bojack would definitely be fine with all these allegations given that, like what you said, celebrities do shit like that all the time. I don't think it would fit into the story's narrative, though. In order for Bojack to truly evolve as a person, he needs to hold himself accountable and take responsibility for his actions. Actually, it would be really crazy if the public did forgive Bojack and he hates it, because he wants others to hold him accountable so he doesn't have to do it himself. I can imagine him being pushed to do another movie or something like that, only for him to not allow it because he has to be held accountable by someone. If that someone isn't society, it has to be Bojack. This would be a very interesting path for the show to take, in my opinion.
I've never been more satisfied with a character arc than the one given to BoJack.
Geez part 2 is gonna be a emotional rollercoaster
Doctor Champ and BoJack, both recovering addicts, tasted the vodka. BoJack didn’t want to go back to his old ways so he spit it out. Why didn’t Doctor Champ? I’d say it’s because he’s not really healed. BoJack stated several times during the episode that the Pastiech mindset is that you’re powerless to your addiction. As soon as Doctor Champ has “one drop of alcohol”, it sends him down a “ruinous path”. He hasn’t identified the source of his addiction and is relying on external motivation (ex. his husband leaving him). He can’t take responsibility for his role in his relapse so he blames BoJack. BoJack has used this tactic enough times to know that letting himself do the same thing, taking out his pain on others, will keep him from moving forward. In the moment after Dr. Champ confirmed everything BoJack fears, BoJack chooses to own his role in the relapse, but recognizes that ultimately Dr. Champ made the choice to go back to drinking. The real ruinous path is not taking responsibility for your life and actions. P.s. sry it’s a long one I just thought it was such a sophisticated criticism of the rehab industry and I wanted to share my thoughts
It felt pretty good watching this season alongside reading doctor sleep and seeing how both bojack and danny and struggling alcoholics but have reached the point of accepting their guilt and now just trying to help others
I was absolutely shocked when it was revealed bojack Hates horses. It immediately clicked as the cause of his self destructive behavior. It’s so simple yet I never guessed it. Genius
I love this show the writing is some of the best ever I love it. This season might be my favorite. My favorite scene might be him getting the dye out of his hair him accepting the change. Also the song that plays when he’s in the church is outstanding
8:32 / 8:53 Ruthie tearing into the picture; the figurative meaning.
Of course! I totally missed that.
I love that we’re also seeing more of Todd, I would love to see his story come to light, likewise with Princess Carolyn, Diane, Mr. Peanutbutter maybe they’ll do spin-offs we have been seeing the same extras throughout the series (hopefully a different series same universe and we’d see Bojack Horseman in the background or something)nothing against Bojack Horseman I love this show it’s just it would be nice to see a different perspective in this world. All I am saying is this yes this is the last season of Bojack Horseman but that doesn’t have to be it for everyone else; also despite this world where there’s all this different forms of animals and etc there’s still wars going on (Cordova) let’s unpack that as well. I would watch PC’s life or Diane’s or Todd or Mr. Peanutbutter or Hollyhock’s life or Sarah Lynn, or even Sextina Aquafina from their own perspective after the end of this amazingly animated adult show it would be interesting. I hope to see more of Sarah Lynn and Bojack’s bender from Sarah Lynn’s eyes because through Bojack’s eyes we don’t really know how he got to where is or what led him there because he blacked out a lot Sarah Lynn seemed to know exactly where she is because even though she was doing the same drugs as Bojack she was still conscious and amazingly didn’t black out at all. If they don’t do any spin-offs or anything I’d really love to see the bender Sarah Lynn and Bojack went on from Sarah Lynn’s perspective because Bojack doesn’t remember much just bits and pieces, Todd’s past with his mother and biological father and see him reconnect with his mother and have a good relationship with Maude I think that Todd and Maude are so alike personality-wise that they’d work great together as a couple, and I would love to see Princess Carolyn reconnect with Ralph and Ralph being with Princess Carolyn enough to be her husband and also adopt Ruthie, Diane successful because of this new book that she’s writing and happy with Guy and meeting his son, Mr. Peanutbutter growing and not being stuck in his twenties and being finally happily married to Pickles because they are perfect for each other. Maybe Netflix will actually create Horsin’ Around as it’s own sitcom and or Mr. Peanutbutter’s House I would watch those sitcoms.
Funny you should mention Horsin’ Around, I’ve always wanted to see that made into an actual show, but realistically didn’t see it happening.
@Christopher Cruz I disagree. I think Todd is a great character. In the beginning of the show, he's portrayed as what some people would consider as a worthless, non-contributing member of society that does nothing productive and leeches off of Bojack like a parasite, but as the show continues, his character develops more and more and I really like it. He has ambition and dreams and he would have had a successful rock opera had it not been for Bojack willfully sabotaging it, which was a very important episode for developing Bojack's personality further. Bojack needs Todd to think he can never go anywhere beyond his couch, because Bojack needs Todd. As the show progresses and Todd engages in other business ventures, this is definitely shown more and more. Todd goes from being someone who leeches off of Bojack to becoming a much more mature adult who can actually succeed in life and I think he's a great character in the show that a lot of people can relate to, including myself. He's young, he has no real direction in life, but he persists and becomes more than just a waste of space. I agree that some of the Todd-focused episodes seem half-assed, but no show is perfect. I think Todd is a good character and he adds to my enjoyment of the show. You're entitled to your opinion and I'm entitled to mine, but these are just my thoughts.
I know this show has a very depressing overtone most of the time, but I'm hopeful that it won't end in bojack killing himself like many people speculate. He might get close but he will be stopped (by himself or someone else) who tells him than death isn't redemption and that he has to pay for his actions himself (just like with rehab) rather than taking the easy suicide route.
Or at least I hope 😆
At the very least, _someone_ is dying, if only to give Bojack a final wake-up call before the end
They subtly foreshadowed Diane dying a lot last season, almost as much as Bojack's had all this time in the intro, and Mr. Peanutbutter has been silently suffering but too delusional to even recognize his problems for so long, so neither of them would be that much of a stretch, especially with all the parallels they both have to Bojack
The intro scene where he falls from the Observatory into the darkness below makes it tough to think he won’t be dead by the end of the season. Besides, The Horse from Horsin’ Around died at the end of the show, and all Bojack’s done for the last five years is act like he’s still in that heyday.
@@Lazypackmule I'm worried Diane will commit suicide...it seems like she's only a few bad days away from hurting herself. Diane and Bojack's story arcs run parallel to each other (both characters struggle with self hatred, run away to far-off places in search of a new lease on life, come from abusive families and have trouble connecting with their heritage). It would be particularly painful and poignant if one character dies while the other survives.
Personally, I don't think Bojack himself will die...after all, one of the show's main themes is that Bojack needs to face consequences, and staying alive is part of that.
I hope that Bojack is the one to remind himself of your version of redemption. I just think the message in that would be important, especially in Bojack's case. He needs to be a good influence on himself, and be able to encourage himself to make good decisions, instead of relying on others to keep him in line. I was gonna end this with, "but, it is Bojack, so..." but I think that would invalidate the possibility of redemption, and I do think if Bojack Horseman, the show, ended with Bojack Horseman, the horse, actually changing for the better, it would be cool (if not just less cliché as ending the series with the idea that bad people never change).
Lazypackmule I don't think someone dying is necessary for Bojack to realize that. I said this already in this thread but it would be more impactful if Bojack kept himself together in order to keep his life together instead of needing somebody else to do that, i.e. Sarah Lynn. Bojack, rather than needing a scapegoat, needs to not have a scapegoat. Him being exposed for all of his wrongdoings is enough. Although, as a side note and criticism of antipsychotic medications and ssris etc, it would be interesting if Diane died from being chemically poisoned from her meds....but that's obviously not going to happen, because it has nothing to do with the plot and would just be a random derailment, which they don't do on this series.
The symbolism of the stars in the vodka bottle is super depressing. Everyone wants to be the shining star, the famous, the successful and the rich. But yet it is exactly these things that corrupts our innocence. The success and fame is exactly what Bojack is trying to get rid of when he throws the vodka bottle away.
Man I am both scared and excited for what's next for Bojack Horseman. Like he's finally getting himself together but there's this tidal wave rushing at him. cannot wait to see if he hold on, and if so, how he's going to hold on.
Am I the only one freaked out when that new chick said "I must earn hydration"? Like what the f**k lead her to that line of logic?!?!
It did come outta left field that bojack hates horses but I did accept it cuz yeah throughout the show he never hangs out or has any other horses in his life except for hollyhock. And she's the exception cuz she approached him with life changing news and he didnt wanna get close to her at first
Here early! I really enjoy Shady Doorag's Bojack analysis (analysi?) I have none to talk about all the juicy content and themes and Shady always gets it right and leaves viewers with great insight to form their own ideas. Kudos! And I loved the love the other day regardless of the sound man! Your voice is needed!!!
How the heck did the guy not taste the vodka and stop. So weak willed
The Raw Truth if one sip is all it takes for you to relapse into your former self, you never truly became sober
@@robgucci7663 im aware that someone who is an alcoholic, and who usually has a genetic predisposition, cant have a drink even if they have been sober for decades. this is because as soon as an alcoholic drinks, they instantly crave more and reason goes out of the window. that why alcoholism is a bitch.
a banana thats a good point, but then again, it seems odd for a person with that disposition to decide to work at a rehab facility and be a role model for others, not trying to put him down or anything. just my two cents
The Raw Truth yeah i kinda realized that just now as well. well if thats the case, doctor champ is abusing the system and not tackling his problems the right way. in the end he’s the weak one, not bojack
Bojack is a far bigger addict, and he had a far more normal reaction to taking a sip, it was disgusting to him after going so long without it, and he threw it away
Beyond that, you would easily be able to smell the vodka before actually taking a drink, Champ wasn't tricked, he was just waiting for an excuse
I really love your season analysis! Keep up the good work!
11:53 now you’re scaring me.
what i don't understand is... how can you drink an entire water bottle of vodka without noticing it's vodka?
He noticed. But it was a convenient excuse to relapse for someone whose sobriety wasn't very well grounded.
Personally I just want Bojack to be happy
am gonna be wholehearteedly honest, I cried when Mr. Peanutbutter got his "crossover episode". Was such a happy thing. :)
Oh btw this is one of your best videos. Dynamic, provocative, and well thought-out. The gold standard we expect👌🏼
Yessss! Great breakdown! I can’t wait until part 2!!! Thanks Shady
3:21 never noticed that small detail of the baby cottage being from “the untouchables”, that’s a really cool detail.
About damn time you dropped a video
Honestly so glad I found your channel. This video got my attention and I really liked your analysis of part 1 of season 6. Can’t wait for more videos about Bojack Horseman.
I've been waiting for your video on the new part 1, this made my day 10/10 video
As always, a fantastic analysis video!
He's been waiting to be punished for his past constantly, now it's going to happen when he's at his highest moment. I'm hoping he leaves it in the past and brushes it off and continues trying to help the ones he loves.
PS the second I posted that comment I realized I was talking about an animated show where the main character is a horse...
The thumbnail makes it look like Bojack is slyly offering you some space water.
I still think its possible that Bojack the one who got Sextina Aquafina pregnant.
@BB Hoody The case against Bojack Horseman.
1. The episode where Sextina gets pregnant just happen to be the same episode Daine gets her abortion. This is because the writers dillbertly picked the most divisive subject matter possible. They new that it would divide the fans and get us to argue over weather what Daine did was ethical or not. All in attempt to keep us distracted from the fact that the show never told us "who" got Sextina pregnant. Diane whole abortion story is a red herring.
2. In the same episode, Bojack himself admits that he's payed off past women into getting abortions and even shows fears if any of them kept it. At first this may look like forshadowing Hollyhock, but we now know she isn't his daughter. That story in season 4 was also a red herring design to get us to forget about this moment and not realize that scene was forshadowing Bojacks "real" child. (Not to mention Sextina is an even bigger and wealthier celebrity then Bojack. So simply paying her may not have even worked on her.
3. In her Abortion Music video Sextina is seen dancing with a male "Zebra". Bojack was an "Angsty Zebra" for one episode. This is forshadowing that Sextina thinks horse like creatures are attractive looking.
4. In the same Abortion episode, Bojack attempts to prank George Clooners by beatimg him with a baseball bat, to prove pranks are stupid. In order to do this he gets a job as a limo driver. When the prank fails he saids that he needs to pick up someone for a "Bachelorette Party" and then puts on a "ballcap" with the word "slut" on it. Through out the same episode Sexitan is seen wearing different "Ballcaps". The slut cap bojack puts on is part of her merch. Bojack had to wear it because she is a guest at the event. This is where they had sex.
5. She was 17 at the time of the episode. The same age as "Penny". She's also a sex addict and narcissistic, like bojack.
6. When Daine confronts Bojack about Penny at the Philbert premier, he listed other women that he also needs to apologize too. The very first one he lists is when he asks Daine: "Do you want to know why I can't go to the MTV Beach house?"
MTV=teenage popstar
Beach=Dolphin
7. In the same scene you can see ads for Philbert saying "What Did You Do?" And "Don't Tell Her Anything!". You can also see the web address for WhatTimeIsItRightNow.com. At this moment the adress is being used as a stand in for #TimesUp
8. Bojack new cloths at the end of the last episode are very similar to Mr. Peanutbutters "Birthday Dad" cloths. Suggesting Bojack will learn that he's a father.
9. The show has been hinting at that Bojack has secretly wanted to be a father. So wouldn't it be a dark twist full of tragic irony if he finally gets it, only for it to be the thing that brings him down?
10. Bojack already almost had sex with a 17 year old. He had sex with Sarah Lynne, who was the closet thing he had to a daughter. He slept with Todds girlfriend, whose also young enough to be his daughter and he chocked Gina. If he was left alone with Sextina, he wouldn't be able to control himself.
11. The first time we meet Sextina in season 1, she said: "They want Sextina Aquafina BABY!" And there seem to be an emphasis on the word "Baby". Suggesting that the writers were forshadowing her pregnancy very early on.....which would be an intersting move if it wasn't going to be something important later.
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Almost Forgot.
12. There are two possible reasons on why he hasn't brought it up to anyone. 1. He simply doesn't remember it. He was either on drugs or drunk at the time they had sex and blocked the memory out of his mind. Just like he did with his assault of Gina. He's completely unaware that he even did anything wrong with her, or only has a vauge idea of what happened. The 2nd possible explanation: He's a master manipulater. He's manipulating fans of the show just like he has done with everyone one else in his life. Its one of the shows meta 4th wall breaks, only this time designed to get us to know exactly how it feels to be gaslighted, lied too or betrayed by Bojack. Like he did to Todd, PC, all his girlfriends, Diane and others.
@Instrumentality1000 How would it be any different from Penny or Sarah Lynne? Bojack already corssed that line with a teenager. He was "going" to have sex with Penny. The only thing that stoped him was that Charlotte "stoped" them before they could do it. Also what he did with Sarah Lynne was pretty much borderline incest and sexual abuse. It was played for laughs at first like other shows would do, but as the story went on we got to see the real life unfunny consequences Bojacks actions had on her. So he already crossed that red line twice before the abortion episode. Also he was probably at his most self-destructive in the same season that Sextina gets pregnant. He wasn't getting the help he needed yet and at this point in the show he was still a really horrible guy.
2nd. I think Bojack and Sextina would go for each other if they were left alone. Would it help if we just pretend for a moment that she was in her 20s or 30s through out the whole show? Can you picture them getting along now? They're both party animals (no pun intended), they both have huge egos, they both can't control their sexual erges, and they're both self-destructive. If Sextina was a lot older it would be more shocking if she and Bojack didn't go for each other. They have some things in common personality wise. Sextina is also similar to Sarah Lynne in some ways (who Bojack did have sex with). Like Sarah Lynne, she was a kid thrust into the entertainment world and turned into a a creepy sex icon. Which also lead her down a self-destructive path. Bojack might be attracted to her because she reminds him of Sarah Lynne.
I will give you this. Its possible that the Zebra in the music video is really the father. That thought did cross my mind as a possible debunker of my theory, but I still think its a pretty big coincidence that bojack becomes a Zebra in a latter episode (aslo after rewatching the Bobo episode. I just notice that Flip, the sexually perverted film director that forced Bojack to perform a nude scene, becomes "Flippy" a "Dolphin".....intersting) The show also has a history of forshadowing future events in ways that are similar to what I described. For example, when we first meet Sarah Lynn as an adult, all the way back in season 1, she performs her music video at the "planetarium" where she dies. At the end of the same episode, she pretty much told both Bojack and the audiences how her story would end.
Love your Bojack Videos , so interesting to listen to your views of the show
Hey man I love how you analyse everything in this show keep up the good work man I love you
Yeah, I find BoJack "hatred of horses" kinda dumb
1. He loves Hollyhock and admired Secretariat, two horses
2. When he saw a bunch of horses running back in season 4, he wanted to join
He hates his parents, sure. But all horses? That's a streach. Heck, he doesn't even hate Doctor Champ
If we remember in season 5, Bojack pretty much BEGGED Diane to write a callout piece since he couldn’t take responsibility for his actions. He needed someone to hold him accountable. And now that you mention he’s close to being “canceled” I feel like it parallels that. He’ll get his call out post, but we’ll have to see this time if he can take responsibility for himself.
I imagine maybe he'll go "Yes. I did all of that. I'm sorry". Diane knows about Penny. But I'm not sure if she knows about his part in Sarah Lynn's overdose death and him giving booze to minors.
I have never been to church before, but this animated pastor helped me a lot.
YESS!!!! I've been excited for this video sense the day the new season dropped!!
I just realized the sign at 11:42 says BOB BOOB. LOL, you don't see all the animal gags until you rewatch the show.
I've been waiting for this since the season came out! I hope you'll be able to dive in a little more-- I'm curious about your opinion of Diane, Todd and others this season
well done!
Also coming full circle with the ending theme song “I’m more horse than a man or Im more Man than a horse”
I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS VIDEO!!!!!
The thing the priest says at the end might be a message from the writers to the audience. They're basically saying "Hey, if you want, you can find solace in this ending and believe that this is how it ends, peacefully, but if you want to continue on this journey, we start over in 30 minutes"
Boko holy shit
Boko very cool 😊
This is my first time watching your channel. I just wanted to say nice job and I look forward to seeing more.
i wish this show wasn’t ending
This video had me in tears
I am loving this season so far. Definitely takes the bad taste of Season 5 out of my mouth. Hopefully Part 2 is just as good.
I dunno, I liked season 5... wasn't the best...but I like this whole show. When this show first came out, I never had access to it, so I'm thankful for all the seasons.
I thought season 5 was great, second only to season 3
4:32 only now i realise... that’s a painting of vincent van goat
I love how in the opening auto generated subtitles said “shave your eggs here”
It's sad that Bojack isn't dealing with the real issues which is what he did to people outside of his friend circle. It's a cop out that the show won't let him get away with.
Bojack did try to deal with it. He asked Diane to write a hit piece on him so others would hold him accountable, to which she said no one is going to do that. He has to hold himself accountable.
Also, Diane wrote Bojack's book which revealed all the horrible stuff he did pre-season 1, and it just made everyone see him as more human and love him more.
Shady Doorags You just proved my point. Bojack goes to other people (mostly Diane) and begged to be torn down, that's not dealing with his problems or changing. If Bojack really desires to deal with his mistakes then he would write an article, book, video or anything and take responsibility for his actions and change his behavior. Avoiding that critical step creates a timebomb that will force him to confront his mistakes by losing his fame and money like Cosby, Louis CK, Matt Lauer, etc. That's why the reporters/#metoo analogy will take him down during the second half of the season. Bojack will be annihilated by the story that he refused to write in the first season and every season since because he hasn't changed, he just feels guilty. I won't feel guilty seeing Bojack get what he deserves.
@@vingram100 He still attempted to deal with it himself couple of times. Like that time when he wanted to confess about what he did to Gina but she herself stopped him or the time he tried to apologise to Kelsey by writing her a letter but failed solely because the letter was unreadable because of the smeared ink, and also the time he wanted to make another movie with Kelsey but because of PC the film production was denied.
@@vingram100 Louis and Matt still have more money than most of us will ever see in our lives, just like most of the other men in show business and broadcasting whose abuses have become public knowledge. The show's been really good at critiquing America's toxic cult of celebrity, and extremely ham-handed about the power of money. As fucked up as it would be for BoJack to get away with no jail time or financial damage, it wouldn't be out of character for the show
In 1:00 diane says that no matter what is written about him, no body is going to hold him accountable for it. He needs to hold himself accountable for the things that he has done in the past. Foreshadowing?
I think the ending is gonna be Bojack giving up his material possesions and life in Hollwoo as a result of his Meetooing. The public will think he's suffering and lost everything when in reality he'll be living a simpler life and much happier as a result. Showing that the material things society pushes you to wanting so you can be happy are pointless and only a healthy mindset and active self betterment make you happy.
BoJack's frantic pursuit of fame and fortune in Hollywoo was one of the main symptoms of that problem. In a larger way, the show is one of the best ongoing satires of American celebrity culture.
Bojack Horseman is a Groundhog Day in cartoon format
Except multiple characters actually die
The reveal that Bojack hates his identity as a horse makes you wonder how rough it must have been only being known as "The horse from Horsin' Around"
I can't wait to see what happens with Mr. Peanutbutter in season 6.5 and your subsequent video about him. Great content!
This show is so amazing
I binge watched Bojack within 3 days last month, and i always said i liked the first 2 seasons and condemned the rest
But with this video i've realised that the writing surrounding bojack himself is great
Damn son I’m getting tense that part 2 is ultimate test to see whether the horse is broken or keeps on treading
Been waiting for thisss!!!
I always look forward to your videos
Been waiting for your video 😂
8:38 That foreshadowing...
6:56 This must be the sexiest line Will Arnett has ever delivered.
It could go two different ways, either way i'm watching it and surely will love it
Amaizing video dude, great content
Great analysis 👏🏾👏🏾
The deep meaning of Bojack still taking his mother to a retirement, even after what she did, that’s something all kids struggle with their parents. Their own parents have to raise their kids and try to hide the shitty person they used to be for now
I get goosebumps when I think of Mr Peanut Butter finally getting his cross over episode and getting his dream come true, to be Bojack's friend
As sad as it is knowing Bojack will be publically cancelled...it's for the best.
I mean, I know he learned and he could live the rest of his life in peace, but what about those he hurt? He's not the one who has suffered THE MOST and ending it that way would be unfair to his victims.
how does bojack being cancelled help them at all however? not saying he doesn’t have it coming but the show even states that cancellations and take downs are only temporary and just a trend for the public. bojack’s public image being soiled does nothing to amend his past actions. gina will still have ptsd, kelsey will still be out of work, and penny and charlotte will still have trust issues. the only thing i can think of is the family of the girl he got drunk getting financially compensated or something.
@@robgucci7663
Well, look at Gina for example, her PTSD isn't the problem, but that since no one knows what she's going through, she's just unfairly treated as a difficult actress.
We don't know much about Charlotte and Penny, but considering what happened, I don't think they would want to allow Bojack to hurt other young girls (or maybe the journalists will just put the info out against their will, the point is that they have the right to speak up)
Matt I. I don’t really see your take on Gina. She isn’t unfairly treated in my eyes, she has a lot of priority and the director is putting a lot out of his way just to make things more to her liking. She’s seen as difficult because that’s what she is simply, which leads to frustration. But the crew and media don’t disrespect her, quite the opposite. She’s one of the biggest actresses in Hollywoo and people only have good things to say about her acting and potential. Plus, I think most people who have a brain in the industry are well aware of what she went through. Being able to publicly declare “Bojack Horseman physically assaulted me in a drug induced rage” doesn’t affect her trauma or her career. The only way she can move forward in her life is self healing and maybe closure with a reformed Bojack. Not the few weeks of half assed attention and support she’ll get from the public.
As for the Charlotte and Penny, I think what they want most is just to be a simple happy family. Bojack will always be a stain on that, but they are moving on. Having the whole country focused on them and the terrible night they suffered would only ruin their simple happy life. Yes, Charlotte’s image of Bojack is forever changed and she is certainly fearful of what he is capable of doing to young girls, but I doubt she thinks he is a monster who needs to be locked up and she has to sacrifice her family’s solace just to protect the girls of the world. But I do agree with you that the journalists won’t care what they think.
That’s just my interpretation of the show though. Could be wrong, but we’ll have to wait and see. Maybe the outcry is what gives Bojack the motivation to sincerely apologize to Gina and she can function normally again. But I think when this dark story drops, it’s only purpose is to see if Bojack can face the consequences regardless how bad they seem, and regardless that he’s changed. If he can accept it, and still continue to better himself, he succeeded.
I remember when treesicle made a video on bojack horseman
They said that we all have this little candle burning inside of us wanting to grow bigger wanting to become this ranging fire we count on to keep us warm it grows when we are happy it diminishes when we eff up but no one tells us what happens when that light goes out
However this season is different
I remeber my last comment was there is not cure all of yourself and thats still true there is not "happy ending" you have to write your own
And maybe just maybe
Your light can be shined again
Your candle can be relit anytime
As long as you let it
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Farewell so long Auf Wiederesehen goodbye See you all in part 2
*Auf Wedersein
@@doyen6565 ...Auf Wiedersehen
@@Reckefisch My bad. Well, I tried.
Thank you both
@@themanchilddjplayer1598 gern geschehen ;)
Best season yet
100% on Rotten Tomato.
i honestly cried when he and peanut butter did the cross over episode.