DCS F-4E - Boresight Mode, AIM-7 & Speedgates [Essential]

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 1 ก.ค. 2024
  • flyandwire.com/2024/05/27/f-4...
    In normal employment scenarios, an STT radar lockon provides the AIM-7 Sparrow with the necessary information about the target to track and hopefully hit it. However, there are situations where obtaining the lock is not immediate or feasible. The F-4E has several tools for such complex cases, from the Stab switch to CAA or manual employment. This video discusses Boresight mode.
    TIMESTAMPS
    00:00 Introduction
    00:30 Characteristics
    01:03 Boresight target lock
    01:42 Unavailable radar lock
    02:33 Scenario: Tu-22M
    03:03 Issue I: Lookdown
    04:10 Issue II: Closure rate
    04:51 Target on the nose
    05:27 Mainlobe, sidelobes, target
    05:50 Speedgate & FOX-1
    06:45 Incorrect speedgate demonstration
    07:08 Issue III: No lead
    07:35 Issue IV: Manoeuvring targets
    08:01 Conclusions
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ความคิดเห็น • 45

  • @mikeck4609
    @mikeck4609 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    When I bought the F-4 module I was under the impression that there would be no math on the test.

    • @ziepex7009
      @ziepex7009 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      You bought a plane from the 60s and thought that? 😆

    • @mikeck4609
      @mikeck4609 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I thought Jester would do it! Lol…luckily I think he can. That, or I can just skip LGBs and enjoy my Walleys

    • @robertmantell1700
      @robertmantell1700 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@ziepex7009 I'm shocked I didn't get a slide rule in the mail with my vinyl lol.....

  • @biggus3348
    @biggus3348 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Your timing is impeccable. Earlier today I began experimenting with several radar commands that I have edited into the front seat bind lua and BST is one of those commands. Jester will not interfere when his presence is set to disabled. Thank you again for an informative video.

  • @thesimnet
    @thesimnet หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Excellent overview!

  • @manizaeim
    @manizaeim หลายเดือนก่อน

    Top Notch as always. great job on kneeboard, impressive. THANKS

  • @Swatmat
    @Swatmat หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    this might be the most informative video on the radar yet!

  • @comstedt7443
    @comstedt7443 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice, been waiting on this one!

  • @SolidShot
    @SolidShot หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video!

  • @chadvader974
    @chadvader974 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How do you do it with Jester though?

  • @braeddie
    @braeddie หลายเดือนก่อน

    awesome

  • @Whuping
    @Whuping หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    You might have mentioned it or not, didn't catch it, but depending on the weapon selected, CAA mode will attempt to lock in that area. Example: With RADAR selected, Pressing CAA will search the Right portion of the radar and not the center. This is crucial when attempting to BST a target and then pressing CAA on a target that's off your nose. Depending on a lot of factors you might lock something else that's not entirely intended.
    So its advised to if you're using CAA in BST - make sure your heaters are selected so it will scan down the center. But even still I find myself locking onto clutter than the target in this mode. Usually just let Jester lock in BST and hope for the best. D:

    • @gunschel
      @gunschel หลายเดือนก่อน

      How do you tell Jester to lock in BST? I didnt find it in the menu and when I switched seats to manually set BST myself, Jester switched back to his standard scan when I entered pilot seat.

    • @Whuping
      @Whuping หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@gunschel You Cage (BST) Then you use the Jester Context Menu when you have the target in your reticle. A single click he'll lock onto the contact (or attempt to depending your angle). In every case its better to be below the target than above it due to the clutter.

    • @vimfuego8827
      @vimfuego8827 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Whuping You have answered your own
      query

    • @FlyAndWire
      @FlyAndWire  หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I covered this last year. The pinky works as a weapon and channel selector for CAA, but it is not related to boresight. Boresight and Cage look similar, but they are *extremely* different, don't mix them up.

    • @gunschel
      @gunschel หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@FlyAndWire Is there a way to jump into Jester's seat, do your selections (BST and Aspect) then jump back into pilot without Jester changing your selections?

  • @vimfuego8827
    @vimfuego8827 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is this a new channel ?

  • @Scorpac
    @Scorpac หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why does your F-4E Cockpit look totally different to mine? is this a mod?

    • @FlyAndWire
      @FlyAndWire  หลายเดือนก่อน

      I don't use mods. What do you mean by "different cockpit"? oO"

    • @quacksly509
      @quacksly509 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hes in the WSO seat.

  • @2polev355
    @2polev355 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Very informative. Still, I've found the cage and CAA mode for the pilot to be almost useless even in near perfect conditions. I don't know if this is the intended behavior of the AN/APQ-120 or a bug but Cage and CAA mode are comically unreliable at obtaining a lock when it matters the most. Even when it does manage to lock, it almost never provides a stable enough track to enable usage of the AIM-7. I've lost quite a few fights this past weekend that never should have made it past the merge because the radar was fighting me every second of the way. I have no idea what I may be doing wrong. The best luck I have with it is when I am looking up at a target and it is silhouetted against the sky to eliminate ground clutter. Its just to unreliable to be competitive in a wild multiplayer environment. Such a shame.

    • @ntme9
      @ntme9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It's a 60s jet so no it's not going to be competitive in a multiplayer environment consisting of 14s,16s, 18s, 29s, 27s ect but that should be expected.

    • @2polev355
      @2polev355 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@ntme9Firstly, the type of F4 Heatblur chose to model is based off an F4E from the 1980s. It says so in the manual. Secondly, it is not competitive in a Cold War environment against near-peer aircraft. The radar is massively unreliable before the merge and it seems like it only works at random when using CAA. I’ve had better luck when Jester is able to lock the target but still, the reaction time required to be competitive on servers like contention or Enigma’s makes the radar’s drawbacks extremely apparent. I’ve tested it on custom missions. I flew 2-5 miles behind a Tu-95 and toggled Cage and CAA and the radar refused to lock. It makes me believe that it is a bug and not the actual performance of the radar system.

    • @thorluis226
      @thorluis226 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I believe caa is unable to provide guidance to sparrows

    • @2polev355
      @2polev355 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@thorluis226 The training mission tells you to use CAA to target for the sparrows. Its funny because IRL Pilots reported that it was the missiles that were prone to failure and not the radar. Seems like its been flipped. XD

    • @Barsook1
      @Barsook1 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That's odd. It's been working out pretty well for me, whether the target is in some clutter or against the sky. I wouldn't know what to tell you. :/

  • @delayed_control
    @delayed_control หลายเดือนก่อน

    2:33 Sorry but this is nonsensical. The boresight mode in APQ-120 should trigger lock warning in SPO-15. SPO-15 doesn't rely on changes in signal to detect a lock, but on signal being constantly present. If it doesn't it's basically a bug and/or AI limitation.

    • @FlyAndWire
      @FlyAndWire  29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Not necessarily. Not many RWR detected CW, and depends on which update we are referring to. Same for other guidance methods. I need to check the Russian docs again, but IIRC, either the SPO-10 or -15 got an update specifically mentioning the AIM-54 Phoenix, for example. The Mirage F1's RWR during the Iran-Iraq was not capable of detecting incoming Phoenix either, for example (source: Cooper).
      Aside from reality, DCS is DCS. It can be a bug, the AI, or both.