I really like this stretcher (and most of the Helinox gear). It's lightweight and compact when packed. Looking at it in detail, I can see why it cost over $400. But it's too expensive to replace my current gear right now. My gear are still in excellent condition. When my gear starts falling apart, then maybe I'll invest on this.
Yeah, Helinox makes great gear, but it does come at a price. But if you can afford it, you'll have yourself some quality gear that will perform well and last for ages. ~ Ben
Hey friend, while I am usually a super-loyal Snowys customer, I do admit that the cost of this item was just a bit too inaccessible for me, too. However, if you're still looking (+ even see this reply), the brand Naturehike - who have a small name of their own - make something almost identical for a fraction of the price. Despite the stripped-back ticket, I can confirm that the quality does seem to be there, as mine is holding well (I'm not a backpacker, so can't comment on if it's quite _as_ light as the original; I'm just a person with a bad back, & a 130cm tall tent) while reviews around the internet are also pretty promising, + they offer them in a small range of colour options, too. Listed on Aussie Amazon for about $150, leg extensions included.
Was able to reduce that price significantly by ordering it through REI. They give a 20% discount each March and had a $20 coupon plus used my REI cash. Ended up paying just a touch over $300 for the Max Cot price of $479
Nice review! Wonder why no one in the reviews I have watched, show one "popping" up from one! Might try reversing how you got onto it? I rolled off the cot and onto my knees like I might do if I was on the ground to get up , just too low to get my legs under me, but will see if I can reverse your method of getting on, I squat as far as I can and have a small drop at the end.
Nice looking store, I went to look at camping gear at two box sporting good stores and couldn’t find any due to all the cloths. They need to decide what they want to be. Try buying a tent sight unseen.
Thanks for your feedback, Paul, we try and have a good cross section of tents on display. As you mention, It's hard to drop a lump sum of coin on something you haven't seen. ~ Ben
Nice , I'm looking for something to sleep inside actually bit to put away during the day. I think I would leave it assembled and just lean it against a wall...
I agree, they are by no means a cheap item. But for passionate hikers with bad backs that need a more comfortable sleeping solution than the average hiking mat, the price is long forgotten after many a good night of sleep on the trail. ~ Ben
There are so many variables to take into consideration when looking at sleeping gear Jg Rsb. We've recently covered Sleep Systems and how to make the best choices in a podcast, which you can find at the following link. Recommend you give that one a listen, its packed with info! th-cam.com/video/ZVtWrMM1eWM/w-d-xo.html ~ Lauren
I think it would depend on the actual material of the tent floor @tony m and what kind of waterhead rating it has. A large portion of tents these days have some kind of PE style coating on the floor, which should be completely fine, its more the older stuyle woven floors that would be an issue I think. Its a great question though, what kind of tent do you have? ~ Lauren
It's a good idea to use something under the cot feet as this is where damage is likely to occur. I don't have any specific recommendations, I guess you could lay another tarp inside your tent, or maybe use foam pads under each foot. ~ Ben
Good question, wizwizwizbang. We don't actually have the extension legs in stock at the moment, so I can't try for you sorry. I reckon there would be enough room to squeeze them in the bag, it will just make packing it a way a little harder as you try and squeeze things back in the bag. ~ Ben
I’m trying to choose between a Helinox hiking cot and a Thermarest Ultralite Cot (for my big guy husband who hates sleeping on a hiking mat). Has anyone tried both and has an opinion or recommendation ?
I don't have nay experience with the Thermarest cot sorry Fayley. What I can say though is that both Thermarest and Helinox products are of the highest quality, so I've no doubt that you'd be happy with either option. ~ Ben
If you are within Australia you can jump on the link in the video description, otherwise get intouch with Helinox directly for your local supplier. ~ Lauren
It looks like the fabric components of their products are made in Vietnam, James. As for the frames, Helinox use DAC poles in all of their products who have a research and design facility in South Korea, I'm not sure if this is also where the poles are manufactured in mass though. Whatever the case, it wold appear that they are using reputable factories as their products are really well made. ~ Ben
I've got several Helinox products and think they're great but this is just too narrow. There is a Cot Max version that's 75cm wide and 210 long but that bumps the price to $600 and it's getting too bulky to even consider for a walk in camp so it's competing with others that are a third or less of the price.
I agree with you apsilonblue, Helinox products are great, but we are by no means trying to hide the fact that they are expensive. We have the Cot One in stock for those wanting a stretcher for hiking, but the bigger ones are just as you mentioned; a tad large for hiking, and very expensive for camping in comparison to others on the market. Thanks for your thoughts. ~ Ben
Yeah, not cheap, but really well made. It will suit lightweight hikers looking for an alternative to a mat, but it's probably a little pricey for general camping. ~ Ben
really new design.. not.. mine stretcher is now over 40 Years old still in good shape.. same design.. with 3 spanning springy feets as they are clicked into the outer rods unter tension.. so there is nearly no weight maximum and even smaller package... it was used by east german Army and loved by many campers in eastern Germany and still today, as they can never fail..
That's insane. It's a neat product engineering-wise and it's fair to advertise it for car camping ... but ... point of going out into nature is that you are not at home in your fatboy ... "lightweight adventurers" do not lug around a 2.3 kg 475 dollar sleeping contraption. Fuck that's about the weight of my arctic level sleeping pad, my tarp, bug net and cooking system combined ... WTF xD
I just really enjoy Lauren's product presentations. Such a QT 😊😊😊🖐.
Thanks mate
~ Lauren
You do the best demos. Thanks.
Wonderfully informative demo. Thanks shall order via Snowy's Outdoors tomorrow. 🙏🏾🙏🏾
Glad to have helped!
~ Lauren
I really like this stretcher (and most of the Helinox gear). It's lightweight and compact when packed. Looking at it in detail, I can see why it cost over $400. But it's too expensive to replace my current gear right now. My gear are still in excellent condition. When my gear starts falling apart, then maybe I'll invest on this.
Yeah, Helinox makes great gear, but it does come at a price. But if you can afford it, you'll have yourself some quality gear that will perform well and last for ages. ~ Ben
Hey friend, while I am usually a super-loyal Snowys customer, I do admit that the cost of this item was just a bit too inaccessible for me, too. However, if you're still looking (+ even see this reply), the brand Naturehike - who have a small name of their own - make something almost identical for a fraction of the price.
Despite the stripped-back ticket, I can confirm that the quality does seem to be there, as mine is holding well (I'm not a backpacker, so can't comment on if it's quite _as_ light as the original; I'm just a person with a bad back, & a 130cm tall tent) while reviews around the internet are also pretty promising, + they offer them in a small range of colour options, too.
Listed on Aussie Amazon for about $150, leg extensions included.
Was able to reduce that price significantly by ordering it through REI. They give a 20% discount each March and had a $20 coupon plus used my REI cash. Ended up paying just a touch over $300 for the Max Cot price of $479
It cost a lot because it’s titanium and light. Chinese copy cats use aluminum or steel.
@@michaelduff6715 not sure if they ever used titanium but the frames are a higher grade aircraft aluminum and have a better warranty generally
I like that just simple and easy. With small pack
Nice review! Wonder why no one in the reviews I have watched, show one "popping" up from one! Might try reversing how you got onto it? I rolled off the cot and onto my knees like I might do if I was on the ground to get up , just too low to get my legs under me, but will see if I can reverse your method of getting on, I squat as far as I can and have a small drop at the end.
Getting up is less graceful, put it that way!
~ Lauren
Just found this channel. Count me as a subscriber now. Great review format and presenter. Also love the features and times in the notes. Excellent!
Thanks for joining us, BradB, we appreciate your positive feedback. ~ Ben
Nice looking store, I went to look at camping gear at two box sporting good stores and couldn’t find any due to all the cloths. They need to decide what they want to be. Try buying a tent sight unseen.
Thanks for your feedback, Paul, we try and have a good cross section of tents on display. As you mention, It's hard to drop a lump sum of coin on something you haven't seen. ~ Ben
That is just what I was looking for, the camp cot looks good too.
I have this one. Very practical, but not really comfortable. I still prefer a self inflating sleeping pad instead.
@@alexanderv4609 She'll do for me...
Sorry mate, I'm already sold
~ Lauren
Nice , I'm looking for something to sleep inside actually bit to put away during the day. I think I would leave it assembled and just lean it against a wall...
It's light enough to lean against the side of a tent, Paula, and a little more comfortable for side sleepers than a regular camp mat. ~ Ben
It helps to have set up *and* breakdown, thank you.❤
You're welcome!
~ Lauren
Great review thanks for the thorough look at the cot
You're welcome, Mr. Wild Wales! Thanks for watching. Laine
Thank you for the review!
You're welcome, Alex. ~ Ben
Dimensions
190 cm long
63 cm wide
74 3/4" long
24 3/4" wide
6' 2" long
2' 3/4" wide
Thanks for the conversions, Helena, we use the metric system in Australia. ~ Ben
Great demo! However the Helinox is breathlessly expensive. It is a great cot....but $500 for the longer wider version...
I agree, they are by no means a cheap item. But for passionate hikers with bad backs that need a more comfortable sleeping solution than the average hiking mat, the price is long forgotten after many a good night of sleep on the trail. ~ Ben
@@SnowysOutdoors Thanks, Ben! Have a great day!
Is a mattress necessary in warmer weather? Is it comfortable enough to just use a light sleeping bag and no mattress?
Absolutely not, lots of people use a stretcher as they are.
Mattresses are great if you want additional insulation or want a squish bed.
~ Lauren
Great review, thank you for sharing!
You're welcome. ~ Ben
What is the double cot or extra wide cot behind you called? Looking for something that size. Thank you
That's the OZtrail Easy Fold stretcher, Manny, check it out here - www.snowys.com.au/easy-fold-queen-stretcher. ~ Ben
@@SnowysOutdoors how do I order from the United States?
@@Manny_____ we don't ship to the US sorry, but I'm sure Helinox must be available over there somewhere. ~ Ben
I’m thinking of cots to keep off a wet ground. What would be a good sleeping bag, or cover to keep warm and stop getting wet to go along with this?
There are so many variables to take into consideration when looking at sleeping gear Jg Rsb. We've recently covered Sleep Systems and how to make the best choices in a podcast, which you can find at the following link. Recommend you give that one a listen, its packed with info!
th-cam.com/video/ZVtWrMM1eWM/w-d-xo.html
~ Lauren
Curious how a light tent floor would deal with the pressure concentrated into the small feet, esp. if the ground is wet?
I think it would depend on the actual material of the tent floor @tony m and what kind of waterhead rating it has.
A large portion of tents these days have some kind of PE style coating on the floor, which should be completely fine, its more the older stuyle woven floors that would be an issue I think.
Its a great question though, what kind of tent do you have?
~ Lauren
Is it ok to use an inflatable mat with this cot? Or will it puncher the mat? Thank you
I can't see why that would be a problem, yoshimitsu411. ~ Ben
@@SnowysOutdoors thanks Ben
When I saw the price in a comment..I stop the video 😅
They aren't cheap by ay means, but they are a top quality product. ~ Ben
Seems great !
These are awesome. ~ Ben
Are they supposed to sag in the middle by your hips when you lie on one side
To a certain extent, yes - depends on your weight
~ Lauren
It will sag a little, especially where you apply more pressure i.e. at your hips. ~ Ben
What could we use to put under the “feet” of the cot?
I feel like they may punch through my tent floor if place on a sharp rock or even soft ground.
It's a good idea to use something under the cot feet as this is where damage is likely to occur. I don't have any specific recommendations, I guess you could lay another tarp inside your tent, or maybe use foam pads under each foot. ~ Ben
@@SnowysOutdoors I found some 3” squares for furniture feet on Amazon that will work perfect! Easily packable too👍🏽
Nice video as usual Snowys. Can you fit the optional extension legs in the cot bag too?
Good question, wizwizwizbang. We don't actually have the extension legs in stock at the moment, so I can't try for you sorry. I reckon there would be enough room to squeeze them in the bag, it will just make packing it a way a little harder as you try and squeeze things back in the bag. ~ Ben
I’m trying to choose between a Helinox hiking cot and a Thermarest Ultralite Cot (for my big guy husband who hates sleeping on a hiking mat). Has anyone tried both and has an opinion or recommendation ?
I don't have nay experience with the Thermarest cot sorry Fayley. What I can say though is that both Thermarest and Helinox products are of the highest quality, so I've no doubt that you'd be happy with either option. ~ Ben
Where can i have one like that in France? In which magasin?
I'm not sure you can get this in France sorry, as far as I am aware it is only available in Australia. ~ Ben
How can I order this stretcher?
If you are in Australia you can order it online from us, Chey - www.snowys.com.au/cot-one-camp-stretcher. We don't ship overseas though sorry. ~ Ben
Do you know of any cots that are this short, but a few inches wider?
Not that I know of sorry, Tamieka. Helinox have wider versions, but they are also longer. ~ Ben
Go Kot is the way to go.
Hadn't heard of Go Kot, looks to be US based but neat looking stretchers. ~ Ben
There’s one on Amazon with the same style legs. I think it’s around 100$
It wouldn't be a Helinox then. ~ Ben
@@SnowysOutdoors no but judging from the reviews, it’s just as lightweight and durable.
I'm sure Chinese temu got em super cheap
@@turdnugget123 wouldn’t trust that for a second. I weigh 200 and I’m 6’1 so I can’t use much from China
Salut sa doit être en fer sur Amazon
Do you know where I can purchase replacement parts?
You should be able to get them through helinox.com.au @Joe Frassica.
Goodluck!
~ Lauren
Looks promising but I see a lot of plastic bits that would be a concern for breaking
It's actually a high strength nylon resin, Tom, and we haven't seen any issues with them to date. ~ Ben
What weight of person will it hold?
It has a 145kg weight rating, check out all the details here - www.snowys.com.au/cot-one-camp-stretcher. ~ Ben
not just a minute in the vid and the mistake happend^^ the orientation of the grounbaars are important, 3 tryes 2 misses lol..
We can only claim to be human. :) We did correct ourselves later in the vid though. ~ Ben
@@SnowysOutdoors i've seen later... No front, just foud IT was funny..., btw thanks for the vid..
where i can buy this
If you are within Australia you can jump on the link in the video description, otherwise get intouch with Helinox directly for your local supplier.
~ Lauren
Great presenter
We appreciate your feedback, Explorer The Bush. ~ Ben
At last, watched a load of stretcher videos and no one gets on them.
I'm glad our video was useful. ~ Ben
Where is it manufactured?
It looks like the fabric components of their products are made in Vietnam, James.
As for the frames, Helinox use DAC poles in all of their products who have a research and design facility in South Korea, I'm not sure if this is also where the poles are manufactured in mass though.
Whatever the case, it wold appear that they are using reputable factories as their products are really well made.
~ Ben
@@SnowysOutdoors Thank you.
How much is it
They aren't cheap by any means, Christina. Check out our current prices here - www.snowys.com.au/cot-one-camp-stretcher. ~ Ben
I've got several Helinox products and think they're great but this is just too narrow. There is a Cot Max version that's 75cm wide and 210 long but that bumps the price to $600 and it's getting too bulky to even consider for a walk in camp so it's competing with others that are a third or less of the price.
I agree with you apsilonblue, Helinox products are great, but we are by no means trying to hide the fact that they are expensive. We have the Cot One in stock for those wanting a stretcher for hiking, but the bigger ones are just as you mentioned; a tad large for hiking, and very expensive for camping in comparison to others on the market.
Thanks for your thoughts. ~ Ben
Cool cot but extremely expensive.
Yeah, not cheap, but really well made. It will suit lightweight hikers looking for an alternative to a mat, but it's probably a little pricey for general camping. ~ Ben
really new design.. not.. mine stretcher is now over 40 Years old still in good shape.. same design.. with 3 spanning springy feets as they are clicked into the outer rods unter tension.. so there is nearly no weight maximum and even smaller package... it was used by east german Army and loved by many campers in eastern Germany and still today, as they can never fail..
Are you referring to the old 'W' stretchers, with the springy w-shaped legs that go underneath? ~ Ben
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We only ship within Australia sorry, Hitesh. ~ Ben
What a Price In chair
We only ship within Australia sorry, Hitesh. ~ Ben
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Hope you found it useful. ~ Ben
"King camp" makes a much cheaper and smaller bed than this one
Thanks for your feedback. ~ Ben
$150 - $180 would be a fair price for that product. Not $475. But hey that's just me.
Yeah, it's not cheap. We are selling a few though, so there's a few campers and hikers who can see the value in it. ~ Ben
That's insane. It's a neat product engineering-wise and it's fair to advertise it for car camping ... but ... point of going out into nature is that you are not at home in your fatboy ... "lightweight adventurers" do not lug around a 2.3 kg 475 dollar sleeping contraption. Fuck that's about the weight of my arctic level sleeping pad, my tarp, bug net and cooking system combined ... WTF xD
60$ for that at most.
Ridiculous price.
It's a price people will pay to continue to enjoy their passion for hiking, Jorge, and Helinox gear is made to a high standard. ~ Ben
I've never once heard any guy say "You see that girl with the nose ring? Wow, that's so hot."
Each to their own, J Q, I'm pretty sure Lauren's partner thinks otherwise. ~ Ben
@@SnowysOutdoors cope
Give measurements that make sense. America is still the biggest consumer market.
We don't sell into America, and we go by the same metric system, so it only makes sense to present our products as such. ~ Ben
cost as much as a bed. NOPE
This is a high spec piece of kit that will only appeal to a small community of adventures - certainly not for everyone
~ Lauren