A simple DNA test would give convincing evidence of Queen Charlotte's ancestry. Even if her remains are only bones, a strand of her hair and any miniscule amount of her bone marrow should be enough to give accurate results. Of course, getting the permission of the British royal family to exhume her body to collect specimens from her skeletal remains is another matter, but I think technology wise, it's possible if the question about her lineage must someday be absolutely established. However, your recreations of Charlotte I think tell the tale of who she really was, despite the vagaries in the talents of contemporary artists who tried to paint her image for posterity.
Based on the research of her genealogical “tree,” it seems unlikely that she presented as Black, but any parent could agree that it’s fascinating how even recessive and “throwback” genes can combine and show up. Most likely, Charlotte was simply uncommon and less homogeneous than European aristocrats were used to. Presented as a modern woman, she would be considered quite beautiful. Thank you for your thoughtful, fascinating videos.
What made them feel like she might have more direct African blood is due to her features : her nose and full lips. However, as a Black woman, I have seen white women with these features as well. In my opinion she is one of the more beautiful European queens!!
@이지민-j5w Firstly it is never an insult to be black. Secondly, maybe not in case there were a lot of biracial people passing as white or people identifying as white with African blood. This channel was just providing context, your comment was not necessary.
I look 100% white due to my European ancestors but I am also African as my 5th great grandfather was from Africa and a slave in USA. My 3 sons you can tell they are mixed race. Funny thing is my DNA test does not show that far back so my African DNA was 0.03% but my middle son his was 8% African. Funny how genetics do that. You can't judge a book by the cover for sure.
Her ancestor wasn't even black nor moorish. .. Queen Charlotte 's so called ''moorish'' ancestor (Madragana Ben Aloandro) was an ethnically Portuguese (European / white) woman and a *''Muladí''. • Madragana Ben Aloandro, was the daughter of Aloandro ben Bekr (Governor of Faro, Portugal), who was a ''Muladí''. • *''Muladís'' are ethnic Iberians that converted to Islam. • Madragana's family belonged to the ''Banu Harún'', an important Muladí family from Faro (Algarve, Portugal).
@@tatianaoliveira2191 Thank you for the context! That definitely weakens the argument for her being biracial, or at least being partly black. It sounds like at the very most, she may have had more of an olive complexion. But considering the sources describe her as "pale," that doesn't seem very likely either.
Can people please stop in trying to rewrite history ... She was an european (German) princess and she was not biracial which is clearly seen in the lineage of her parents ... even if it doesent fit the current political and social narrative ... Bridgerton is just a show, its not accurate its a fantasy ...
So if she was really mixed race, that means you are what? Racist? Does the thought that she might be biracial piss you off? Seems it does. She is not rewriting history but stating what people are asking and maybe she was.
Queen Charlotte 's so called ''moorish'' ancestor (Madragana Ben Aloandro) was an ethnically Portuguese (European / white) woman and a *''Muladí''. • Madragana Ben Aloandro, was the daughter of Aloandro ben Bekr (Governor of Faro, Portugal), who was a ''Muladí''. • *''Muladís'' are ethnic Iberians that converted to Islam. • Madragana's family belonged to the ''Banu Harún'', an important Muladí family from Faro (Algarve, Portugal). --- P.S.: The so called ''Moors'' that were here in Portugal (and Spain) were original from Saudi Arabia and Morocco. • They were West Asians/Arabs and Imazighen (Berbers)
@@monmothma3358 No, Charlotte would look white. Charlotte's so called moorish ancestor was an ethnically white Portuguese woman (she simply converted to Islam) And even if that ancestor was middle eastern.. after 400 years, that wouldn't do anything to Charlotte's phenotype
My grandmother was from Austria and her lineage goes back generations in the Southern Germany/Northern Austrian region. Her family all had these similar features and brown eyes. I have read that in this area, the German DNA was more influenced by the Romans, which could explain more of a Southern European look. Just a thought.
I love your channel not just because of your fantastic reconstructions, but your amazing presentation of each historical figure you cover. You did such a great job digging into, and fleshing out, what is an otherwise contentious topic for our time.
Many pure Caucasian people have wide noses and thick lips. There is a big diversity of features within white people (just like any other ethnicity), and not everyone has small pointy noses and thin lips.
The paintings remind me of my 96 year old German grandmother, who always had a large nose with wide, flat nostrils, and protruding lips, even when she was younger.
The new fad of "color blind" casting doesn't change historical characters. ""ill colored" means pale /sickly. Henry Walpole described her as pale... No reputable historians, or Royal archivists or Royal librarians agree with Mario de Valdes y Cocom's fantasy claims.
@RedRisotto unfortunately, most people today know very little about history. People had a huge fit when Gal Gadot was to play Cleopatra because Gadot isnt black. People think that Cleopatra was black due to her being in Northern Africa(Egypt), but fait to realize that she was Greek. Ptolemy was a general under Alexander the great. After Alexander died his empire was divided into 4 nations and Ptolemy became the king of Egypt(part of the Greek Empire at the time). Cleopatra was the grand daughter of ptolemy and would have had an olive Complexion. Gadot would have been perfect for the role, but people know very little about history.
If the British royal family even thought Charlotte might be mixed race, they would not have agreed to the marriage. Based on that alone, I wouldn’t consider her mixed race in any way.
As a resident of North Carolina, in the city of Charlotte, N.C. (Mecklenburg County)there is a massive bronze statue of Queen Charlotte at the CLT AIRPORT.
I think the argument relies on there having been an extra marital affair closer to her time. The portrait and verbal descriptions do not sound biracial to me. Sounds like she just had a unique face. It happens in all races.
@@fredo1070 I looked this up because my Grandmother who had a lot of European Royal Ancestry used to be very specific when I asked her questions... and she always said that her ancestors in Spain had been fair, I think with red hair and blue eyes, because it was before the Moors had, mixed in, not sure of the best way to put that. She always led me to believe the Moors were Black, so I googled and found this: " “Moor” was a generic term for Muslim North Africans and Iberians and could mean anyone from Arabs and Berbers who looked much like other Mediterranean peoples to Malinese who were what would be called “black” today, and even included Mozarabs, ethnic Visigoths who had adopted Islam."
Charlotte's ''moorish'' ancestor wasn't even ethnically moorish. ▪︎ Madragana Ben Aloandro was an ethnically Portuguese (European / white) woman and a ''Muladí''. • ''Muladís'' are ethnic Iberians that converted to Islam. . ▪︎ Madragana Ben Aloandro, was the daughter of Aloandro ben Bekr (Governor of Faro, Portugal), who was ''Muladí''. • Madragana's family belonged to the ''Banu Harún'', an important Muladí family from Faro (Algarve, Portugal).
Imagine the cope when you have to clutch at straws to find blk people in European Royalty 😅.. anyway your recreation was amazing! ❤ so pretty but possibly didnt meet the beauty standards at the time. Her husband certainly wasnt complaining. 😊
She was European, she looked European, she just didn't fit the European beauty standards of that time. By the contemporary descriptions, she wasn't beautiful but her personality made up for that.
As a bi-racial person, it is offensive to me when people try to re-write history. We are human and that means people of one race can look like people from another... I've seen lookalikes of famous people that are from different cultures. Queen Charlotte was European we have the proof.
I say the same thing every post: I always look forward to these posts. You really humanize historical figures in a way that is unmatched. The connections you create are remarkable.
Your recreations are stunning! I don’t understand how we decide that people who don’t fit the current norm of beauty aren’t beautiful! I think she was beautiful. And whether she was biracial or not is not clear unless there was a secret in her lineage, which certainly has happened before.
Sir Walter Scott was quite mistaken and backwards in his describing her skin as "ill colored" by comparing it to actual skin coloring or lack thereof in his normal view of people around him including himself. "Ill colored" would suggest lack of color or not of much color or even a coloring attempt that was lacking or ill completed. Likewise, "Ill mannered" means of less manners not more. or of lacking in manners and not of having more manners
I personally don't think she was the first mixed - nor would it be enough in her flood from 500 years earlier to really be able to tell. She was BEAUTIFUL but yeah.. I've met plenty of white people with flatter/wide noses and bigger lips (with both combos) to know that its not just something that people of color have. Wonderful recreation. There's still no denying she IS of mixed race - since it's in her DNA (but again.. not enough to tell just based on looks). I too am multi-racial and you'd never be able to guess what I was LOL
The fact that she’s been portrayed by Helen Mirren, Golda Rosheuvel and India Amarteifio really has to be one of the most interesting casting choices for a real life figure.
Without her family tree, I definitely would've thought she was a woman of color but the chart proves that wrong. Nonetheless, shes stunning in her portraits. Great video as usual!
A serious problem with the "Moorish ancestor = African" idea is that 'Moor' was a very broad term eventually applied to anyone from the Muslim world - including from the Iberian peninsula. The term originated to describe anyone from North West Africa (it's related to the name "Mauretania", and probably comes from a Phoenecian term for their North African colonists, but also indigenous Berbers in that region) - which would have eventually included people of Germanic descent via the Vandal invasions of North Africa in the dying days of the Western Roman Empire. But you can also find portraits of Moorish people living in Europe who are clearly European or Middle Eastern in ancestry, and are as pale as any German. Frankly, the suggestion that Queen Charlotte had African ancestry because of a possible Moor ancestor is like saying that someone looks black because they had an ancestor from the United States. I really like the portrait of her. In particular, where she is smiling, she somehow looks quite German to me, which is appropriate.
I love the Hanoverian Queens, Ecpecially Charlotte and and Caroline of Braganza. Your Voice is so soothing and your Recreation are so beautiful. I'm always waiting for your next video. Keep the great work!
2:47 I actually see facial features that are prominent with members of the Saxe-Coburg-Gotha (Windsor) family: e.g. the slightly googly eyes and the lower part of the face. Look at George V.
She was German, so naturally she’s beautiful, cultured. Without any doubt this alone meant I understand that she would have faced prejudice. Your interpretation is wonderful, thank you ♥️(side note, I am not German, I am Māori and thus know full well when unjust prejudice and it’s ugliness arises)
The so called ''Moors'' that were here in Portugal (and Spain) were original from Saudi Arabia and Morocco. ▪︎ They were West Asians/Arabs and Imazighen (Berbers) ... As for Charlotte's ancestor... ▪︎ Charlotte's ''moorish'' ancestor, Madragana Ben Aloandro was an ethnically Portuguese (European / white) woman and a ''Muladí''. • ''Muladís'' are ethnic Iberians that converted to Islam. . ▪︎ Madragana Ben Aloandro, was the daughter of Aloandro ben Bekr (Governor of Faro, Portugal), who was ''Muladí''. • Madragana's family belonged to the ''Banu Harún'', an important Muladí family from Faro (Algarve, Portugal).
Some Moors were Black from what I have found. But Netflix has gone full on Woke like Disney who literally turned snow white black. I don't mind if it's true, but I don;t like that they keep trying to change things when they are clearly not factual. Like tell us your own stories about you and that will be awesome. But people are agitating to create division. I even read that several European Kings AND Mary Queen of Scots was supposedly Black African... SMH. Those are my ancestors and I am VERY white. They were not Black, I would not even mind if they were. But they were not. Netfilx, shall I remind also has all of Egypt in an uproar over Cleopatra, so... Yeah.
@@tatianaoliveira2191 The moors elite were mainly of Middle Eastern descent but if you want to pretend North and West African cavalry and tradesmen weren’t regularly riding through Iberia post-711. It amazes me how European people go out of their way to distance themselves from anything African like blackness is a disgrace or something. The black Moors made up the minor nobles and they were there and did marry white people(Iberian Ancestors).
@@Gravelgratious sure, sure... We were under the control of the ''Umayyad caliphate'' (Saudi Arabia), the 'Almoravid dynasty' (Moroccan Berber) and the 'Almohad caliphate' (Moroccan Berber) • We weren't under control of the 'Mali empire' (or other Sub-Saharan empires) North Africans/Berbers aren't the same as Sub-Saharan blacks. • That's like saying Indians and Chinese are the same just because both are Asians.
Her eyes, in a couple of the portraits you’ve presented, remind me of people I have known to have been diagnosed with Grave’s Disease. Thank you so much for your hard work and informational content!
I think her portraits are incredibly inconsistent and if you lined them all up next to each other I would NOT say they are the same woman based on facial features.Portraits are very political and are highly edited. Portrait artists were certainly altering features that didn't fit the beauty standard of the time but I think it would be akin to us using a blurring filter. It's not suggesting you are mixed race.
Yes genetics do show up generations later. My 5th great grandfather was African. All the sons down to my mother married white European women. So I look very European with medium-light skin, wavy black hair. I also have hooded eyelids. My middle son looks very mixed and DNA test shows only him is 8% African. So yeah it skips and shows up every once in awhile.
I was raised near Mirow where Charlotte was from. It‘s really beautiful but remote at the same time. Today it’s about a 2 hour drive up north from Berlin to Mirow.
It doesn't but there is a narrative they'd like to fit in for Bridgerton TV series but not the Bridgerton book series. TV and the Internet is rotting people's minds. They can't think without someone trying to push an ideology in there first. Comes back to common sense or a lack there of.
There is a genetic throw back. You could have full white parents but be born black or have prominent features associated. There are examples even in our time. If you have black ancestors ? It’s possible.
I'm not in any field concerning anything even remotely close to genetics, however, though it is quite improbable, it is not impossible that a couple features from an obscure ancestor could present in someone. It is known to happen.
As a mixed race individual I can see where she might have had an ancestry down he line from Africa or even a great grandparent that no one talked about. Maybe the child was "white passing" and due to the lack of DNA testing anyone could claim a child or deny them. However, in my personal opinion and from what I've seen from other ancient German people she just kind of looks...well.. German
I mean.. "Ill-colored" stated about skin doesn't have to be about ethnicity at all. Also, an abolitionist painter may have been more willing to paint African-like features, but may just as well have been more prone to wishful thinking (as may Cocom have been). Plus he was only one. The others didn't paint her like that. Even your recreation doesn't look like his paintings.. Interestingly, the actress who plays her in the series does, _except_ for the skin color. Even her Moorish ancestor - all those years before - may even have been pale or olive skinned, not black (like Moroccans or Arabs today). Sorry, but the evidence is paper-thin. Africans may more often have those facial features, but many white people have them too. She must have been white.
I wish that instead of taking Scandinavian/European stories and histories and re-creating them with black people or other ethnicities, that they would make movies and shows about things from actual black history. I have heard very, very few stories about african historical figures, heroes or legends that aren't Egyptian. People have been in Africa practically since the beginning of the human race, so why aren't there more stories told of them? I am in the western United States, so maybe I just don't hear about them often? I have a feeling thatvit is to try and prove that black people could do everything white people could do, but that is going in the wrong direction, almost as if they are ashamed of their actual history. We need to see what they actually did, what was important to them, their pride, their weaknesses, their ideas. It's so funny to hear the contemporary accounts of these women being described as pretty or ugly/fashionable or unfashionable, but your recreations always show a beautiful face.
2:50, "a man named Henry Walpole, described her as ...*pale and rather thin*. Pale, and ill-colored means, that she looked so pale she looked ill. Genealogical analyses of Europeans reveal, that almost all of us have ancestors from allover Europe, Scandinavia, Eastern Europe AND Africa. And ca 2 % NEANDERTAL genes. :)
I look 100% Native American as my siblings look Causation or have a hint of Spanish to their physical features, while all of my maternal biological and paternal biological aunts look Irish mostly. I get my features from my 7 times great grandmother on my paternal side. No one else has this but me. Genetics can be clever and pop up anywhere randomly. I love that. However, no proof means we must stay away from possibles as a rule, they are mere possibles. Nothing more.
I'm Lakota and both my parents were Lakota and enrolled in our tribe at Standing Rock. There is no phenotype for Native/ Indigenous people. Most tribes have had intermarriage with other tribes from different parts of the continent and non-Native people at some point. If you mean the old historical photos, most Native people spent most of their lives outdoors and looked more suntanned than the they do currently. The "Native American phenotype" is a trope that is used to exclude Native people who favor how a a non-Native parent or grandparent looks whether they are Black, Asian or European descendant by saying they don't look Native enough. Our identity is based on our involvement in our various cultures, languages and communities.
I personally think she'd be white but her having stereotypically African features aren't that surprising considering the ancestor. Genetics are weird, I look like my mother for the most part, my cousin as a baby is her spitting image at the same age but looks nothing like her now. And my partner apparently looks like his grandfather was reincarnated when his mom didn't get said grandfather's features in any capacity.
I agree that her lineage doesn’t mean that she’s mixed, but sometimes that’s not always accurate! Passing has always been a thing. When I see Queen Charlotte I definitely see the actress Rebecca Hall who didn’t find out about her mixed ancestry until she went on Finding Your Roots. She has similar features as Queen Charlotte. Now that doesn’t mean that Queen Charlotte is a full black woman, but I do think there has been some intermixing in the royal blood in the past at one point or another that will never be admitted.
This is why historical fantasy is danergous if you don't explicitly state that it is, in fact, fantasy. Bridgerton (the show because it's chalk and cheese compared to the book series that inspired it) is no further based in history than that The Regency is a period that briefly existed. And also that the season was a thing that existed for the super rich at the time. And that's about where the similarities with actual history end. It's fluffy fun, but it is complete fantasy. Do I believe Queen Charlotte was bi-racial based solely on one ancestor that lived 400 years before her? No, I do not. Do I believe that men will do literally anything to pick apart any woman let alone one with a drop of power? Yep.
Love this episode! Whatever this queen was, in my opinion she was beautiful. I love your portrait of her. In today's world I believe she would be considered a beauty.😍
Thank you very much, as always, you did a great video ❤ I can understand why people seeing a woman of colour, but as a German, I think she looks really familiar to me ❤
Unless her mother had an affair, Charlotte wasn’t biracial. She had a very distant ancestress of Portuguese “moorish” descent. That hardly makes one biracial. Do better, this clickbait is above your channel.
Even her Portuguese ''moorish'' ancestor wasn't even ethnically moorish. Madragana Ben Aloandro was actually ethnically Portuguese (European). ▪︎ She was a ''Muladí'', which is an Iberian that converted to Islam. ... It's well documented. ▪︎ Madragana and her family belonged to the ''Banu Harún'', an important Muladí family from Faro (Algarve, Portugal). ... Greetings from Portugal
I love your content and all the history research you do. I would love if you do some portrait of my country history, Colombia ❤. You could research about Policarpa Salavarrieta 😊
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I think she looks a lot like one of my aunt's, who happened to inherit her mother's VERY VERY German DNA.
Can you do Philippa of Hainault, please?
A simple DNA test would give convincing evidence of Queen Charlotte's ancestry. Even if her remains are only bones, a strand of her hair and any miniscule amount of her bone marrow should be enough to give accurate results. Of course, getting the permission of the British royal family to exhume her body to collect specimens from her skeletal remains is another matter, but I think technology wise, it's possible if the question about her lineage must someday be absolutely established. However, your recreations of Charlotte I think tell the tale of who she really was, despite the vagaries in the talents of contemporary artists who tried to paint her image for posterity.
Based on the research of her genealogical “tree,” it seems unlikely that she presented as Black, but any parent could agree that it’s fascinating how even recessive and “throwback” genes can combine and show up. Most likely, Charlotte was simply uncommon and less homogeneous than European aristocrats were used to. Presented as a modern woman, she would be considered quite beautiful.
Thank you for your thoughtful, fascinating videos.
People do realize that not all African people have big lips and noses, right? They know those traits aren't limited to Africans, _right?_
Apparently not. It's frightening how ignorant and narrow-minded people can be.
What made them feel like she might have more direct African blood is due to her features : her nose and full lips. However, as a Black woman, I have seen white women with these features as well. In my opinion she is one of the more beautiful European queens!!
She was not white. If you research you would know this
Best answer.
And even back in her time she was called that as an insult too, so we really should quit the revisionist history
@이지민-j5w Firstly it is never an insult to be black. Secondly, maybe not in case there were a lot of biracial people passing as white or people identifying as white with African blood. This channel was just providing context, your comment was not necessary.
I look 100% white due to my European ancestors but I am also African as my 5th great grandfather was from Africa and a slave in USA. My 3 sons you can tell they are mixed race. Funny thing is my DNA test does not show that far back so my African DNA was 0.03% but my middle son his was 8% African. Funny how genetics do that. You can't judge a book by the cover for sure.
Having a black ancestor from centuries before doesn’t make you black. People just reaching like they always do.
Her ancestor wasn't even black nor moorish.
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Queen Charlotte 's so called ''moorish'' ancestor (Madragana Ben Aloandro) was an ethnically Portuguese (European / white) woman and a *''Muladí''.
• Madragana Ben Aloandro, was the daughter of Aloandro ben Bekr (Governor of Faro, Portugal), who was a ''Muladí''.
• *''Muladís'' are ethnic Iberians that converted to Islam.
• Madragana's family belonged to the ''Banu Harún'', an important Muladí family from Faro (Algarve, Portugal).
Facts 👌👌👌👌
@@tatianaoliveira2191 Thank you for the context! That definitely weakens the argument for her being biracial, or at least being partly black. It sounds like at the very most, she may have had more of an olive complexion. But considering the sources describe her as "pale," that doesn't seem very likely either.
@@tatianaoliveira2191exactly and thanks for pointing that out
Can people please stop in trying to rewrite history ... She was an european (German) princess and she was not biracial which is clearly seen in the lineage of her parents ... even if it doesent fit the current political and social narrative ...
Bridgerton is just a show, its not accurate its a fantasy ...
So if she was really mixed race, that means you are what? Racist? Does the thought that she might be biracial piss you off? Seems it does. She is not rewriting history but stating what people are asking and maybe she was.
She's a German lady with large lips and a somewhat bigger nose. She's beautiful
I always find it quite emotional when you reveal the moving, realistic imagery at the end, its like they have come to life before our eyes
It's the music for sure. Watch on mute.
She wasn’t black ,.
Queen Charlotte 's so called ''moorish'' ancestor (Madragana Ben Aloandro) was an ethnically Portuguese (European / white) woman and a *''Muladí''.
• Madragana Ben Aloandro, was the daughter of Aloandro ben Bekr (Governor of Faro, Portugal), who was a ''Muladí''.
• *''Muladís'' are ethnic Iberians that converted to Islam.
• Madragana's family belonged to the ''Banu Harún'', an important Muladí family from Faro (Algarve, Portugal).
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P.S.:
The so called ''Moors'' that were here in Portugal (and Spain) were original from Saudi Arabia and Morocco.
• They were West Asians/Arabs and Imazighen (Berbers)
So.. she'd look like Arabs or Moroccans today? Is that what you're saying?
@@monmothma3358 No, Charlotte would look white.
Charlotte's so called moorish ancestor was an ethnically white Portuguese woman (she simply converted to Islam)
And even if that ancestor was middle eastern.. after 400 years, that wouldn't do anything to Charlotte's phenotype
@@tatianaoliveira2191 Thank you. Yes, I was referring to the ancestor, not Charlotte, who must have looked white.
@@monmothma3358 oh, ok
I'm so tired of people thinking the moors were black
My grandmother was from Austria and her lineage goes back generations in the Southern Germany/Northern Austrian region. Her family all had these similar features and brown eyes. I have read that in this area, the German DNA was more influenced by the Romans, which could explain more of a Southern European look. Just a thought.
I love your channel not just because of your fantastic reconstructions, but your amazing presentation of each historical figure you cover. You did such a great job digging into, and fleshing out, what is an otherwise contentious topic for our time.
Thank you! We do read, and appreciate comments like this
Many pure Caucasian people have wide noses and thick lips.
There is a big diversity of features within white people (just like any other ethnicity), and not everyone has small pointy noses and thin lips.
Exactly .. some people of the German ethnicity look similar to this .. she was a German woman not a black woman of African ancestry
It is blatantly absurd to think of Charlotte as black. Bridgerton is an absolutely inaccurate historical mess.
Its just pandering to the times
Why are you so mad about it though
@@Ebyangel Because it's not historically correct goofy
Never watched it because of this. 😂😂
@@Ebyangelagreed yikes
The paintings remind me of my 96 year old German grandmother, who always had a large nose with wide, flat nostrils, and protruding lips, even when she was younger.
She looks a lot like a German friend of mine as well.
The majority of historians reject the theory that Charlotte was of colour and I agree.
The new fad of "color blind" casting doesn't change historical characters. ""ill colored" means pale /sickly. Henry Walpole described her as pale... No reputable historians, or Royal archivists or Royal librarians agree with Mario de Valdes y Cocom's fantasy claims.
@RedRisotto unfortunately, most people today know very little about history. People had a huge fit when Gal Gadot was to play Cleopatra because Gadot isnt black. People think that Cleopatra was black due to her being in Northern Africa(Egypt), but fait to realize that she was Greek. Ptolemy was a general under Alexander the great. After Alexander died his empire was divided into 4 nations and Ptolemy became the king of Egypt(part of the Greek Empire at the time). Cleopatra was the grand daughter of ptolemy and would have had an olive Complexion. Gadot would have been perfect for the role, but people know very little about history.
Of course she wasn't
History doesn’t matter anymore. It’s being rewritten for the sake of diversity.
I agree she was
If the British royal family even thought Charlotte might be mixed race, they would not have agreed to the marriage. Based on that alone, I wouldn’t consider her mixed race in any way.
She is quite beautiful, actually your recreation looks better than the portraits
As a resident of North Carolina, in the city of Charlotte, N.C. (Mecklenburg County)there is a massive bronze statue of Queen Charlotte at the CLT AIRPORT.
Really? That's kind of cool!
Beautiful. She wasn't a woman of color though. Her Moorish ancestor lived 500 years before her birth. 😊
I think the argument relies on there having been an extra marital affair closer to her time.
The portrait and verbal descriptions do not sound biracial to me. Sounds like she just had a unique face. It happens in all races.
And Moorish were Arabs.
Yes, they were called “the black Portuguese” but that didn’t mean black in skin color
@@fredo1070 I looked this up because my Grandmother who had a lot of European Royal Ancestry used to be very specific when I asked her questions... and she always said that her ancestors in Spain had been fair, I think with red hair and blue eyes, because it was before the Moors had, mixed in, not sure of the best way to put that. She always led me to believe the Moors were Black, so I googled and found this:
" “Moor” was a generic term for Muslim North Africans and Iberians and could mean anyone from Arabs and Berbers who looked much like other Mediterranean peoples to Malinese who were what would be called “black” today, and even included Mozarabs, ethnic Visigoths who had adopted Islam."
Charlotte's ''moorish'' ancestor wasn't even ethnically moorish.
▪︎ Madragana Ben Aloandro was an ethnically Portuguese (European / white) woman and a ''Muladí''.
• ''Muladís'' are ethnic Iberians that converted to Islam.
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▪︎ Madragana Ben Aloandro, was the daughter of Aloandro ben Bekr (Governor of Faro, Portugal), who was ''Muladí''.
• Madragana's family belonged to the ''Banu Harún'', an important Muladí family from Faro (Algarve, Portugal).
Imagine the cope when you have to clutch at straws to find blk people in European Royalty 😅.. anyway your recreation was amazing! ❤ so pretty but possibly didnt meet the beauty standards at the time. Her husband certainly wasnt complaining. 😊
She was European, she looked European, she just didn't fit the European beauty standards of that time. By the contemporary descriptions, she wasn't beautiful but her personality made up for that.
You should do George III now that you have done Queen Charlotte
She was definitely not black .. whatsoever .. she was white of European ancestry period
She just had broader features is all, not black
As a bi-racial person, it is offensive to me when people try to re-write history. We are human and that means people of one race can look like people from another... I've seen lookalikes of famous people that are from different cultures. Queen Charlotte was European we have the proof.
Ever single human on this planet is of “mixed race” it’s just how mixed we are
I say the same thing every post: I always look forward to these posts. You really humanize historical figures in a way that is unmatched. The connections you create are remarkable.
Thank you so much. We try!
Your recreations are stunning! I don’t understand how we decide that people who don’t fit the current norm of beauty aren’t beautiful! I think she was beautiful. And whether she was biracial or not is not clear unless there was a secret in her lineage, which certainly has happened before.
I love your depictions of historical figures. ❤❤❤
Beautifully done as always Becca, the clincher (for me) is your modern representation as we all know people who look like that.
Sir Walter Scott was quite mistaken and backwards in his describing her skin as "ill colored" by comparing it to actual skin coloring or lack thereof in his normal view of people around him including himself. "Ill colored" would suggest lack of color or not of much color or even a coloring attempt that was lacking or ill completed. Likewise, "Ill mannered" means of less manners not more. or of lacking in manners and not of having more manners
That's a good point. He probably did mean that she was too pale. Either way, it's just one man's opinion.
I personally don't think she was the first mixed - nor would it be enough in her flood from 500 years earlier to really be able to tell. She was BEAUTIFUL but yeah.. I've met plenty of white people with flatter/wide noses and bigger lips (with both combos) to know that its not just something that people of color have. Wonderful recreation. There's still no denying she IS of mixed race - since it's in her DNA (but again.. not enough to tell just based on looks). I too am multi-racial and you'd never be able to guess what I was LOL
I've got no idea but your image of modern day Charlotte is very pretty..
Great video..♥️🌹
I get happy every time I see you post
BRB adding “My animation counters my physical defects” to my CV.
The modern version looks kinda like Emmy Rossum
Ooh, I can see it! She should play Charlotte in a movie sometime 😂
The fact that she’s been portrayed by Helen Mirren, Golda Rosheuvel and India Amarteifio really has to be one of the most interesting casting choices for a real life figure.
Without her family tree, I definitely would've thought she was a woman of color but the chart proves that wrong. Nonetheless, shes stunning in her portraits. Great video as usual!
She may have had some African ancestry, no surprise for those with forebears from the Mediterranean, but not enough to be termed "biracial".
Been waiting for this one!!! 🙌🙌🙌🙌
A serious problem with the "Moorish ancestor = African" idea is that 'Moor' was a very broad term eventually applied to anyone from the Muslim world - including from the Iberian peninsula. The term originated to describe anyone from North West Africa (it's related to the name "Mauretania", and probably comes from a Phoenecian term for their North African colonists, but also indigenous Berbers in that region) - which would have eventually included people of Germanic descent via the Vandal invasions of North Africa in the dying days of the Western Roman Empire. But you can also find portraits of Moorish people living in Europe who are clearly European or Middle Eastern in ancestry, and are as pale as any German.
Frankly, the suggestion that Queen Charlotte had African ancestry because of a possible Moor ancestor is like saying that someone looks black because they had an ancestor from the United States.
I really like the portrait of her. In particular, where she is smiling, she somehow looks quite German to me, which is appropriate.
Please can you do Margareth of Anjou
Love what you did here. I think she looks beautiful and exotic. Lovey portrayal and I think probably spot on. ❤
This is my absolute favorite episode yet! Your recreation is just stunning! So beautiful I’m actually in awe. It almost made me emotional 😊 Love it!
I love the Hanoverian Queens, Ecpecially Charlotte and and Caroline of Braganza. Your Voice is so soothing and your Recreation are so beautiful. I'm always waiting for your next video. Keep the great work!
2:47 I actually see facial features that are prominent with members of the Saxe-Coburg-Gotha (Windsor) family: e.g. the slightly googly eyes and the lower part of the face. Look at George V.
I think you may be right! By the way, thanks for sticking around and watching our videos all this time
I love watching your rec.
Reations of these past historical figuresi learned so much from your channel.
Thank you for all your hard work.❤
WOW!! She is really beautiful
She was white ❤️
She looks like a white, European woman to me. I think she was very pretty.
She must of been so very elegant & stunning beauty of that era Amazing live the end how she looked ❤❤❤
I think her modern day look reminds me of Emmy Rossum
Well, maybe she had a distant Black relative. But I wouldn't call her black. And well, it's not like wide mouth is a Black only feature.
Neither is a wide, flat nose.
Think Julia Roberts for the wide mouth and Pink for the flat nose. Both considered white as snow and of European ancestry.
She was German, so naturally she’s beautiful, cultured. Without any doubt this alone meant I understand that she would have faced prejudice. Your interpretation is wonderful, thank you ♥️(side note, I am not German, I am Māori and thus know full well when unjust prejudice and it’s ugliness arises)
Omggggggggggg I waited for this!!
Definitely see the Portuguese🥰so lovely
She looks like a friend of mine who can pass as fair with freckles and ginger hair. Yet she does have black ancestry.
No Way Queen Charlotte was black like Netflix states . She had Moorish ancestry, the Moors inhabited the northern part of Africa .
Spain, and Sicily too
The so called ''Moors'' that were here in Portugal (and Spain) were original from Saudi Arabia and Morocco.
▪︎ They were West Asians/Arabs and Imazighen (Berbers)
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As for Charlotte's ancestor...
▪︎ Charlotte's ''moorish'' ancestor, Madragana Ben Aloandro was an ethnically Portuguese (European / white) woman and a ''Muladí''.
• ''Muladís'' are ethnic Iberians that converted to Islam.
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▪︎ Madragana Ben Aloandro, was the daughter of Aloandro ben Bekr (Governor of Faro, Portugal), who was ''Muladí''.
• Madragana's family belonged to the ''Banu Harún'', an important Muladí family from Faro (Algarve, Portugal).
Some Moors were Black from what I have found. But Netflix has gone full on Woke like Disney who literally turned snow white black. I don't mind if it's true, but I don;t like that they keep trying to change things when they are clearly not factual. Like tell us your own stories about you and that will be awesome. But people are agitating to create division. I even read that several European Kings AND Mary Queen of Scots was supposedly Black African... SMH. Those are my ancestors and I am VERY white. They were not Black, I would not even mind if they were. But they were not. Netfilx, shall I remind also has all of Egypt in an uproar over Cleopatra, so... Yeah.
@@tatianaoliveira2191 The moors elite were mainly of Middle Eastern descent but if you want to pretend North and West African cavalry and tradesmen weren’t regularly riding through Iberia post-711. It amazes me how European people go out of their way to distance themselves from anything African like blackness is a disgrace or something. The black Moors made up the minor nobles and they were there and did marry white people(Iberian Ancestors).
@@Gravelgratious sure, sure...
We were under the control of the ''Umayyad caliphate'' (Saudi Arabia), the 'Almoravid dynasty' (Moroccan Berber) and the 'Almohad caliphate' (Moroccan Berber)
• We weren't under control of the 'Mali empire' (or other Sub-Saharan empires)
North Africans/Berbers aren't the same as Sub-Saharan blacks.
• That's like saying Indians and Chinese are the same just because both are Asians.
Wow, she has the same eye shape as Queen Victoria... lovely. (:
Her eyes, in a couple of the portraits you’ve presented, remind me of people I have known to have been diagnosed with Grave’s Disease.
Thank you so much for your hard work and informational content!
My whole family is multi-racial and honestly Charlotte resembles some of my family members even going back 150 years
Beautiful!!
I appreciate your approach, looking at the evidence that was available to you, and not adding in all that noise about "black washing."
I think her portraits are incredibly inconsistent and if you lined them all up next to each other I would NOT say they are the same woman based on facial features.Portraits are very political and are highly edited. Portrait artists were certainly altering features that didn't fit the beauty standard of the time but I think it would be akin to us using a blurring filter. It's not suggesting you are mixed race.
Yes genetics do show up generations later. My 5th great grandfather was African. All the sons down to my mother married white European women. So I look very European with medium-light skin, wavy black hair. I also have hooded eyelids. My middle son looks very mixed and DNA test shows only him is 8% African. So yeah it skips and shows up every once in awhile.
I was raised near Mirow where Charlotte was from. It‘s really beautiful but remote at the same time. Today it’s about a 2 hour drive up north from Berlin to Mirow.
I think this might be one of my favorites that you've done.
When her face came to life, my goodness ❤
She was white for goodnesssake, fed up with this woke nonsense!
Calm down before you give yourself a nosebleed with your faux outrage and persecution complex. Lol
@@gnostic268😂😂
quite honestly, does it really matter?
It doesn't but there is a narrative they'd like to fit in for Bridgerton TV series but not the Bridgerton book series. TV and the Internet is rotting people's minds. They can't think without someone trying to push an ideology in there first. Comes back to common sense or a lack there of.
There is a genetic throw back. You could have full white parents but be born black or have prominent features associated. There are examples even in our time. If you have black ancestors ? It’s possible.
No that's not how genetics work them so call full white parents are of partly African ancestry .. to have a mixed black baby
I'm not in any field concerning anything even remotely close to genetics, however, though it is quite improbable, it is not impossible that a couple features from an obscure ancestor could present in someone. It is known to happen.
As a mixed race individual I can see where she might have had an ancestry down he line from Africa or even a great grandparent that no one talked about. Maybe the child was "white passing" and due to the lack of DNA testing anyone could claim a child or deny them. However, in my personal opinion and from what I've seen from other ancient German people she just kind of looks...well.. German
I mean.. "Ill-colored" stated about skin doesn't have to be about ethnicity at all. Also, an abolitionist painter may have been more willing to paint African-like features, but may just as well have been more prone to wishful thinking (as may Cocom have been). Plus he was only one. The others didn't paint her like that. Even your recreation doesn't look like his paintings.. Interestingly, the actress who plays her in the series does, _except_ for the skin color.
Even her Moorish ancestor - all those years before - may even have been pale or olive skinned, not black (like Moroccans or Arabs today).
Sorry, but the evidence is paper-thin. Africans may more often have those facial features, but many white people have them too. She must have been white.
I wish that instead of taking Scandinavian/European stories and histories and re-creating them with black people or other ethnicities, that they would make movies and shows about things from actual black history. I have heard very, very few stories about african historical figures, heroes or legends that aren't Egyptian. People have been in Africa practically since the beginning of the human race, so why aren't there more stories told of them? I am in the western United States, so maybe I just don't hear about them often? I have a feeling thatvit is to try and prove that black people could do everything white people could do, but that is going in the wrong direction, almost as if they are ashamed of their actual history. We need to see what they actually did, what was important to them, their pride, their weaknesses, their ideas.
It's so funny to hear the contemporary accounts of these women being described as pretty or ugly/fashionable or unfashionable, but your recreations always show a beautiful face.
Right, as a kid we read about Anansi the Spider, would be cool to see a movie about him.
2:50, "a man named Henry Walpole, described her as ...*pale and rather thin*. Pale, and ill-colored means, that she looked so pale she looked ill. Genealogical analyses of Europeans reveal, that almost all of us have ancestors from allover Europe, Scandinavia, Eastern Europe AND Africa. And ca 2 % NEANDERTAL genes. :)
How does having an African ancestor hundreds of years prior make someone biracial?
There are many Germans that have biracial features, seems like this has sparked a fire ....wonder why are they afraid of the one drop rule?
My older sister had similar features as her and she is part German, I would not be surprised by your recreations.
This Modern world is comedy gold. 🙂.
Queen Charlotte is so beautiful. I love your recreations Becca! Now do George III pls 😅
I look 100% Native American as my siblings look Causation or have a hint of Spanish to their physical features, while all of my maternal biological and paternal biological aunts look Irish mostly. I get my features from my 7 times great grandmother on my paternal side. No one else has this but me.
Genetics can be clever and pop up anywhere randomly. I love that. However, no proof means we must stay away from possibles as a rule, they are mere possibles. Nothing more.
I'm Lakota and both my parents were Lakota and enrolled in our tribe at Standing Rock. There is no phenotype for Native/ Indigenous people. Most tribes have had intermarriage with other tribes from different parts of the continent and non-Native people at some point. If you mean the old historical photos, most Native people spent most of their lives outdoors and looked more suntanned than the they do currently. The "Native American phenotype" is a trope that is used to exclude Native people who favor how a a non-Native parent or grandparent looks whether they are Black, Asian or European descendant by saying they don't look Native enough. Our identity is based on our involvement in our various cultures, languages and communities.
The recreations are gorgeous, they remind me a bit of Ruta Gedmintas, the actress that played Bessie Blount in The Tudors series.
I personally think she'd be white but her having stereotypically African features aren't that surprising considering the ancestor. Genetics are weird, I look like my mother for the most part, my cousin as a baby is her spitting image at the same age but looks nothing like her now. And my partner apparently looks like his grandfather was reincarnated when his mom didn't get said grandfather's features in any capacity.
Excellent as always. Not black though.
I agree that her lineage doesn’t mean that she’s mixed, but sometimes that’s not always accurate! Passing has always been a thing. When I see Queen Charlotte I definitely see the actress Rebecca Hall who didn’t find out about her mixed ancestry until she went on Finding Your Roots. She has similar features as Queen Charlotte. Now that doesn’t mean that Queen Charlotte is a full black woman, but I do think there has been some intermixing in the royal blood in the past at one point or another that will never be admitted.
I really don't care what her race is they were very happy together that's all that matters
Why are we still so obsessed with color? MLK is rolling in his grave. Your recreation was splendid as usual! ❤
This is why historical fantasy is danergous if you don't explicitly state that it is, in fact, fantasy. Bridgerton (the show because it's chalk and cheese compared to the book series that inspired it) is no further based in history than that The Regency is a period that briefly existed. And also that the season was a thing that existed for the super rich at the time. And that's about where the similarities with actual history end. It's fluffy fun, but it is complete fantasy. Do I believe Queen Charlotte was bi-racial based solely on one ancestor that lived 400 years before her? No, I do not. Do I believe that men will do literally anything to pick apart any woman let alone one with a drop of power? Yep.
Regardless of whatever race she was or wasn't Charlotte was absolutely gorgeous! One of Europe's most beautiful Queens
Love this episode! Whatever this queen was, in my opinion she was beautiful. I love your portrait of her. In today's world I believe she would be considered a beauty.😍
Beautiful… Thank You ☺️
Thank you very much, as always, you did a great video ❤ I can understand why people seeing a woman of colour, but as a German, I think she looks really familiar to me ❤
Unless her mother had an affair, Charlotte wasn’t biracial. She had a very distant ancestress of Portuguese “moorish” descent. That hardly makes one biracial. Do better, this clickbait is above your channel.
Even her Portuguese ''moorish'' ancestor wasn't even ethnically moorish.
Madragana Ben Aloandro was actually ethnically Portuguese (European).
▪︎ She was a ''Muladí'', which is an Iberian that converted to Islam.
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It's well documented.
▪︎ Madragana and her family belonged to the ''Banu Harún'', an important Muladí family from Faro (Algarve, Portugal).
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Greetings from Portugal
Love the revelation. Really beautiful ❤
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She honestly looks like the actress Jessica Brown-Findlay, who, unless I'm mistaken, is white.
I heard Shaka Zulu was actually Celtic and the Images of him are doctored to change his appearance. I hope they make a movie about this.
Yup, his ancestors came from a small village outside Corwen, just off the A5 heading towards Bala,
I love your content and all the history research you do. I would love if you do some portrait of my country history, Colombia ❤. You could research about Policarpa Salavarrieta 😊