they confirmed the pp2000 damage has not increased from 23 to 24, but all the other changes went through. probably a bug since other stuff got broken too. Besides the gun changes feel good. L just hope they increase the move speed in the support weapons in the future to compensate for the attachment movespeed bug correction. L feel they could be slighty faster then now without issues.
L get your point about increasing move speed, but in the game launch with the bugged move speed to weapon attachments no one was complaining about suporte being too fast. Now the class is slower with not much compensation, a middle ground IS the direction l desire. The classes which got the most effected by This were support And sniper with a m200 loadout to crossmap snip, besides extend mags which are a completely can of Worms to discuss. A small increase in move speed 0.1or 0.2 depending on the gun across the board for support would be the right direction imo.
@@guilhermedecarvalhofernand1629 don't you mean "a middle ground lS the direction L desire"? No but seriously, what's with the "L"s instead of "l"? l have a guess: You are used to write small "L"s instead of capital "l"s because they look the same and you think it's funny (and it is) but you made this comment on phone where it auto-capitalizes letters at the start of a sentence and that blew away this jestery facade of yours!!! And l doubt you noticed, but l didn't use a capital "l" once in this comment, not even those in quotation marks or the one in your quote for the word "is"...they're all small "L"s. It's so devilish l think l have to eat my next steak bloody instead of medium hehe
I once saw you in a lobby and was absolutely amazed at how hard you carried the team. Thanks for breaking these updates down and all the tip videos. Your advice on positioning is very helpful
My body is ready. I’ve been wanting the new buffs so I can try all the new old guns. I just hit 150 so I think I can just go straight through the list and try everything.
Quick note: The PP2000 damage change wasn't added. It'll be added next patch. Since this patch I'm getting loads of stuttering for some reason. Players are stuttering around and I'm getting a lot of frame skips.
Excited to try the AS VAL buff. I love running it with the assault class for that reload and ADS speed increase. Never got caught by an enemy when I'm reloading. Felt like I've got 100% uptime when I used it. Hopefully the reload time nerf isn't that bad.
I got to try a few of these earlier today. Ultimax feels good! Great for AA. And I had some pretty nasty squad wipes on Waki too. Might be my new fav lmg. Pp2000 rips thru players and mags fast. I don’t see myself getting more than 2 kills per mag with that. Gotta try the others. Great video, as usual!
Just glad I finally am able to use the trophy on support while keeping my ammo boxes. Never felt like any of the other gadgets fit well with their defensive play style other than mines which are kind of boring and got nerfed.
Someone in game chat yesterday told me Honey Badger was nerfed because it has less damage now. I laughed my ass off. Wow damage nerfed by 4%, but it has almost no recoil. Most people in game only see one stat on guns
I feel great joy as a support player. The ultimax buffs, the grenade trophy tweaks, the L86A1 being slightly less alienating to new players (though I would still prefer the M249 to be the starting support weapon).
Dang, I feel like the UMP45 got hit pretty hard. It was actually one of the guns I was hoping would be buffed. It was already pretty underwhelming pre patch, so hopefully, the damage buff will be enough to make it compete with other weapons
I'm really looking forward to running this update if the workday ever ends. VAL/Honey Badger are my favorite guns aesthetically (HB is my most kills gun because you unlock it first) and I'm so glad they buffed them. Hopefully the U100 will be less of an airsoft gun but ehhhh we'll see Some of the other ones feel weird. Idk why they changed the G36, it felt like just a decent AR, and the PP2K, it felt like it was already a good Diet Vector (80-85% of the performance with none of the guilt™)
I really enjoy your content, keep doing what you doing bro. Suggestion for future videos, when you do comparisons, you can put clips before and after side by side which will make it more representative and easier to see for the viewer.
@@tonomrwong of the SMGs I think the Mp5 is bushwhacking from to far still, and idk if the P90 is SMG or PDW but that bad boy needs to calm down at ranges too lol. I rarely encounter the PP2000 or UMP anymore really so it was weird to see those get Nerfed.
So many videos, good deal. I like the before and after sequences, showing the changes in the game. Good forethought. I get you need to get the vids out ASAP since there is a shelf life on views for this content. I know it would just be more editing/planning Could you have the name of the wep. big? Maybe timestamps but then it could be used to see ttk although then it could be just a graph with the footage in the background. Maybe a ded end.
2+ months in and this is all they've managed to come up with? Well ... I don't want to bring too much negativity here. Wong you are a great player and, moreover, a great teacher + explainer. You honestly deserve a better game for your channel. I'll just enjoy battlebit vicariously through you :)
@@vinnsterpj yeah we will have to see tbh, I think if they release the new guns, and also fix community server bugs/progression soon enough we could be in for something that lasts a while but idk if that's gonna happen
These community servers have split an already tiny community, at least in OCE . An the no official servers is weird everyone just playing one cq community server , is telling .
I kinda wish they kept some sort of progression system with the attachment unlocks after prestiging, getting to slowly grind out attachments was a big part of feeling progression after you unlock a gun, but now you instantly unlock all the attachments which feels kinda lame T_T
I wish people would stop thinking buffs are a net good because this is very rarely the case. In the world of audio it's known that "a cut is always better than a boost" and it's the same in gaming. Continual boosting just results in power creep, which benefits veterans players who can land the first shot at the expense of everyone else (resulting in everyone but the vets leaving). This is a large part of what killed PUBG.
Two things. The devs need to worry about their game!!! And stop worrying about other people playing their game makes no sense. Secondly they don’t need to do anything about rpg damage except buffing infantry vehicles so they don’t get 1 shot bull shit
UMP changes was kinda dumb. It's the one SMG without any niche. Big ammo capacity SMG? PP2000 High accuracy out to mid-ranges? MP5 and P19 Close Range potential? Vector It does literally nothing better than other SMGs, yet somehow still got nerfed, I just don't understand.
From what I have looked at the G36C and the M4A1 are quite similar. Does anyone have an idea why you would choose to use the G36C over the M4A1 or is it just preference?
Pretty sure I'm somewhere in this video getting gunned down by a "medic" who is maniacally blitzing the battlefield solo in search of multikills, just like how medics work in real life!
My only major problem is the ump45 the fast mag requirement is a little bit silly also when will twitch skins be released for the guns that don't already have them?
@@tonomrwongyeah I tried it and it's better full auto. Definitely a much better AR now. but what really is nice is the G3 horizontal recoil decrease. It made a huge difference, probably may favorite AR now.
We have to get a DMR buff someday… right now it’s almost not playable. The recoil is way too buggy but that may only be my computer case. A DMR review would be awesome but you don’t really play snipers class things…
@antoniolongo7673 WoW. I didn’t know it… Do you have any opinion on the current DMR? I see a lot of people telling me that DMR are just not worth it right now… and personally it’s hard to use even at long distance because some weapon still beam you from far away. The farther the enemy the harder it become to make consecutive shots because of the janky recoil. And in mid range it’s just not worth it when you have AR.
@@lapoudrerouge7671 I think they need a buff. Not that you can't do good with them, but the same amount of skill and effort on other guns yields way better results
@@ExoWillEx true (i still like hb), but famas now also doing 4 shot kill + begter firerate + more ammo + better range. and 20/25 mag versus groza or p90 in the same class a bit laughable as for me
@@densless280 famas, for me, even after update, feels like worse mp7, cuz its better at all stats, except dmg, but it's still enough to 4 shot kill, like famas.
the lean nerfs are so annoying for good players. it completley fucks the skill ceiling of the game. it seems like its heading for the direction in which the game is more so for 40 yearold men who just turn on the game and not for gamers whove been playing for a while. I mean the game has no competitive playlist but this still feels annoying and to be frank really clunky. Dont like the change at all. Well, the game was good while it lasted i guess.
There is nothing skillful about spamming q and e, especially not when using scripts or macro's, it's a crutch mechanic that only serves to save players with poor positioning and aim.
@@utahnl im not talking about scripts and macros. Plus you are wrong, as in q and e nerfs i dont mean spamming while shooting point blank, i meant as in peeking angles with q/e. theres a timing in which you have an advantage. It goes something like (peeking left lets assume) u press q and mid animation shoot while pressing e instantly, it creates an angle which is harder for the other player to shoot at. It started in siege im pretty sure but works in this game too. Thats what i meant in lowering the skill level for the game.
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they confirmed the pp2000 damage has not increased from 23 to 24, but all the other changes went through. probably a bug since other stuff got broken too. Besides the gun changes feel good. L just hope they increase the move speed in the support weapons in the future to compensate for the attachment movespeed bug correction. L feel they could be slighty faster then now without issues.
L get your point about increasing move speed, but in the game launch with the bugged move speed to weapon attachments no one was complaining about suporte being too fast. Now the class is slower with not much compensation, a middle ground IS the direction l desire. The classes which got the most effected by This were support And sniper with a m200 loadout to crossmap snip, besides extend mags which are a completely can of Worms to discuss. A small increase in move speed 0.1or 0.2 depending on the gun across the board for support would be the right direction imo.
@@guilhermedecarvalhofernand1629 don't you mean "a middle ground lS the direction L desire"? No but seriously, what's with the "L"s instead of "l"?
l have a guess: You are used to write small "L"s instead of capital "l"s because they look the same and you think it's funny (and it is) but you made this comment on phone where it auto-capitalizes letters at the start of a sentence and that blew away this jestery facade of yours!!!
And l doubt you noticed, but l didn't use a capital "l" once in this comment, not even those in quotation marks or the one in your quote for the word "is"...they're all small "L"s.
It's so devilish l think l have to eat my next steak bloody instead of medium hehe
My original language isn't english and l tend to not fix every change auto corrector does to It when l type on a phone. Sorry If It bothered you.
cool idea to have the before and after videos, the most comprehensive pre-patch/post patch reference out there!
I once saw you in a lobby and was absolutely amazed at how hard you carried the team. Thanks for breaking these updates down and all the tip videos. Your advice on positioning is very helpful
If you can kill him, you win the game 😁
if you can kill this man you've batmaned batman
My body is ready. I’ve been wanting the new buffs so I can try all the new old guns. I just hit 150 so I think I can just go straight through the list and try everything.
Hell yeah I feel bad some people accidentally prestiged right before the patch
i hit 150 last night too lets go
Thanks for breakin it down mate
Quick note: The PP2000 damage change wasn't added. It'll be added next patch.
Since this patch I'm getting loads of stuttering for some reason. Players are stuttering around and I'm getting a lot of frame skips.
Same here , I've gone from 180 fps to 90 and sometimes down to 60 . Don't know what it is .
I am definitely stuttering as well and this is with a 12700k.
same here! its very strange
i dont really watch much youtube but your videos are very good and somewhat relaxing and have a nice vibe thank you
Thank you for the kind comment :)
Excited to try the AS VAL buff. I love running it with the assault class for that reload and ADS speed increase. Never got caught by an enemy when I'm reloading. Felt like I've got 100% uptime when I used it. Hopefully the reload time nerf isn't that bad.
I got to try a few of these earlier today.
Ultimax feels good! Great for AA. And I had some pretty nasty squad wipes on Waki too. Might be my new fav lmg.
Pp2000 rips thru players and mags fast. I don’t see myself getting more than 2 kills per mag with that.
Gotta try the others.
Great video, as usual!
Just glad I finally am able to use the trophy on support while keeping my ammo boxes. Never felt like any of the other gadgets fit well with their defensive play style other than mines which are kind of boring and got nerfed.
Someone in game chat yesterday told me Honey Badger was nerfed because it has less damage now. I laughed my ass off. Wow damage nerfed by 4%, but it has almost no recoil. Most people in game only see one stat on guns
for the people who prestiged before the patch, were they supposed to get a special skin? didnt see it anywhere in the notes
truuue
been looking for anyone to mention it
ok in the official discord it says it'll go live next update, looks like its gonna be a white kinda mp7 skin
@@nocenz well thats kinda lame as I rarely use the MP7, was hoping it to be a uniform. did a lot of work to prestige to be hamstrung after i did that.
@@nathasix3334 I was hoping for something like that too but yeah it is what it is
So nothing with the DMRs? Surprised.
I feel great joy as a support player. The ultimax buffs, the grenade trophy tweaks, the L86A1 being slightly less alienating to new players (though I would still prefer the M249 to be the starting support weapon).
Same the M249 feels more like a starter weapon
LA86 is a beast once you get the long barrel after getting 300 kills with it
Dang, I feel like the UMP45 got hit pretty hard. It was actually one of the guns I was hoping would be buffed. It was already pretty underwhelming pre patch, so hopefully, the damage buff will be enough to make it compete with other weapons
I'm really looking forward to running this update if the workday ever ends. VAL/Honey Badger are my favorite guns aesthetically (HB is my most kills gun because you unlock it first) and I'm so glad they buffed them.
Hopefully the U100 will be less of an airsoft gun but ehhhh we'll see
Some of the other ones feel weird. Idk why they changed the G36, it felt like just a decent AR, and the PP2K, it felt like it was already a good Diet Vector (80-85% of the performance with none of the guilt™)
honey badger from a gun that have all over the place recoil to still having almost identical horizontal recoil but well the pp2000 is good
0:12 well, pretty much everything except the goddamn DMRs brooo whennn
Yeah IKR DMRs need love
I really enjoy your content, keep doing what you doing bro.
Suggestion for future videos, when you do comparisons, you can put clips before and after side by side which will make it more representative and easier to see for the viewer.
True that I will do that for next time, and I will make the chapters for individual guns so they are easy to find
Ah man I was hoping they re-worked the damage fall off of AR,LMG,DMRs
Same this was on my list, they only nerfed the UMP and PP2000, which out of all the smgs I want to be nerfed least
@@tonomrwong of the SMGs I think the Mp5 is bushwhacking from to far still, and idk if the P90 is SMG or PDW but that bad boy needs to calm down at ranges too lol. I rarely encounter the PP2000 or UMP anymore really so it was weird to see those get Nerfed.
i feel the issue with the old ump is it was just a worse mp5, if u want a low recoil smg its just mp5 all the way
So many videos, good deal. I like the before and after sequences, showing the changes in the game. Good forethought. I get you need to get the vids out ASAP since there is a shelf life on views for this content. I know it would just be more editing/planning Could you have the name of the wep. big? Maybe timestamps but then it could be used to see ttk although then it could be just a graph with the footage in the background. Maybe a ded end.
Yeah for sure I will do this next time
2+ months in and this is all they've managed to come up with? Well ... I don't want to bring too much negativity here. Wong you are a great player and, moreover, a great teacher + explainer. You honestly deserve a better game for your channel. I'll just enjoy battlebit vicariously through you :)
haha thanks for the support :), I really think they need to buff DMRs ASAP
game will die before any meaningful updates get released lol
@@vinnsterpj yeah we will have to see tbh, I think if they release the new guns, and also fix community server bugs/progression soon enough we could be in for something that lasts a while but idk if that's gonna happen
Love the videos! Thank You!
No one’s taking about the real Honey Badger buff (reload animation)
Thanks a lot for the video 🙏
good vid!
Nice music in the video.
These community servers have split an already tiny community, at least in OCE . An the no official servers is weird everyone just playing one cq community server , is telling .
I kinda wish they kept some sort of progression system with the attachment unlocks after prestiging, getting to slowly grind out attachments was a big part of feeling progression after you unlock a gun, but now you instantly unlock all the attachments which feels kinda lame T_T
I agree I actually liked attachments grind aswell
Please buff my DMRs
I didnt know a wong video could be so arousing
Im rly excited to see how the badger and val feel now
I wish people would stop thinking buffs are a net good because this is very rarely the case. In the world of audio it's known that "a cut is always better than a boost" and it's the same in gaming. Continual boosting just results in power creep, which benefits veterans players who can land the first shot at the expense of everyone else (resulting in everyone but the vets leaving). This is a large part of what killed PUBG.
This is an interesting point of view I am going to ponder this
Love FAMAS now
All we need now is 32v32 even smaller maps just for chaos and insanity, like COD maps.. i know this is impossible but it would be funny.
2 videos in 1 day. youre insane
Haha yeah I made a pact with myself that I have to be the first youtuber to cover the new updates and the update hit at 1 am for me 😱
Famas is so good now.
Two things. The devs need to worry about their game!!! And stop worrying about other people playing their game makes no sense. Secondly they don’t need to do anything about rpg damage except buffing infantry vehicles so they don’t get 1 shot bull shit
UMP changes was kinda dumb.
It's the one SMG without any niche.
Big ammo capacity SMG? PP2000
High accuracy out to mid-ranges? MP5 and P19
Close Range potential? Vector
It does literally nothing better than other SMGs, yet somehow still got nerfed, I just don't understand.
Yeah it's really wierd
From what I have looked at the G36C and the M4A1 are quite similar. Does anyone have an idea why you would choose to use the G36C over the M4A1 or is it just preference?
Kills a bit faster iirc, due to its fire rate, and also its horizontal recoil is quite low now
@@tonomrwong ah I see, iirc I think it has a faster reload time with the urk grip and quick mag vs the m4a1 urk grip and quick mag
Think we need some map rework instead of more tickets for domi
Cause more tickets in Namak and Valley is just not fun
(Just had a Valley 127 domi match that ended with 2400-0 )
I've been waiting for a g3 and honey badger buff
Pretty sure I'm somewhere in this video getting gunned down by a "medic" who is maniacally blitzing the battlefield solo in search of multikills, just like how medics work in real life!
1:34 whats the killstreak thing?
I was in a community server that would refresh your ammo if you get a killstreak
@@tonomrwong May I ask which one? I took a break and have no clue which one it is
@@mioszk.8759 they got added last night, the server was BBOCE
@@tonomrwong thank you very much
Do you still recommend the M249 for Support after this patch or the M249 is still better?
Honestly not too sure I still have yet to use the Ultimax in a match
Game feels slower oddly enough, is that just me? Patch was good tho... minus the servers being an absolute mess.
Does my fav BBR youtuber reply?
You know it :)
My only major problem is the ump45 the fast mag requirement is a little bit silly also when will twitch skins be released for the guns that don't already have them?
Not too sure about the twitch skins sorry
i love the developers
:)
i love you too
So is Burst Fire FAMAS now viable? I always loved it in other games but it seemed terrible in battlebit.
It might be, but I am probably gonna full auto still, I wish they made burst fire more viable
@@tonomrwongyeah I tried it and it's better full auto. Definitely a much better AR now. but what really is nice is the G3 horizontal recoil decrease. It made a huge difference, probably may favorite AR now.
Famas stocks about to go way up tho
We have to get a DMR buff someday… right now it’s almost not playable. The recoil is way too buggy but that may only be my computer case.
A DMR review would be awesome but you don’t really play snipers class things…
I do use DMRs as much as the other guns, and for Snipers I only really use the L96 and M200, but I have 1000 on a few of them
@antoniolongo7673 WoW. I didn’t know it…
Do you have any opinion on the current DMR? I see a lot of people telling me that DMR are just not worth it right now… and personally it’s hard to use even at long distance because some weapon still beam you from far away. The farther the enemy the harder it become to make consecutive shots because of the janky recoil. And in mid range it’s just not worth it when you have AR.
@@lapoudrerouge7671 I think they need a buff. Not that you can't do good with them, but the same amount of skill and effort on other guns yields way better results
That ear worm is creeping in...alternate the background music, please. 😁
Yeah rn I alternate between three tracks, but I gotta stock up on more :)
I thought they were going to add a exclusive skin to people who had prestiged? Or is it getting worked on
It's coming a bit later on, but I have heard it's an MP7 skin
When it says you won’t lose anything after you prestige does that mean I keep all my weapons and won’t have to re unlock them?
You will lose anything that requires level, but nothing that requires kills
my key between s f broke in the first game of the new upate an have to get a new keyboar, so i cant move right now.
Dang :(
You should do a review of the scorpion evo. I’ve been trying it and honestly it’s not horrible.
it sucks
I have a video on it :)
Aim for the feet and hold trigger
We need frag RPG buff
Is it finally out??
Yessir :)
UMP was def a bad move lol
No progress on community servers is weird
Yeah apparently its because there are issues and they are gonan fix them
did they fix the bipod ?
No :(
omg omg omg finally give me my honey, i hope it's OP or at least reloads faster than m249
upd. still dogshit
damage per mag ever lower, remains not accurate to compete with mp5's, famas now ia the same weapon but better?
@@densless280 for me, honey feel so good after update, idk why you don't like it, cuz devs buff firerate, but the dmg is still enough to 4 shot kill.
@@ExoWillEx true (i still like hb), but famas now also doing 4 shot kill + begter firerate + more ammo + better range. and 20/25 mag versus groza or p90 in the same class a bit laughable as for me
@@densless280 famas, for me, even after update, feels like worse mp7, cuz its better at all stats, except dmg, but it's still enough to 4 shot kill, like famas.
@@ExoWillEx can't say for sure: waited for update to try, so my first famas games :) but yeah mp7 looks really good rn
bru what about dmrs
Yeah it's a big sad :(
Famas doesnt feel ok, but ASVal is op
the lean nerfs are so annoying for good players. it completley fucks the skill ceiling of the game. it seems like its heading for the direction in which the game is more so for 40 yearold men who just turn on the game and not for gamers whove been playing for a while. I mean the game has no competitive playlist but this still feels annoying and to be frank really clunky. Dont like the change at all. Well, the game was good while it lasted i guess.
There is nothing skillful about spamming q and e, especially not when using scripts or macro's, it's a crutch mechanic that only serves to save players with poor positioning and aim.
such good nerf love it
@@utahnl can't say it better than You lul
I will have to try it out and see what the need is like
@@utahnl im not talking about scripts and macros. Plus you are wrong, as in q and e nerfs i dont mean spamming while shooting point blank, i meant as in peeking angles with q/e. theres a timing in which you have an advantage. It goes something like (peeking left lets assume) u press q and mid animation shoot while pressing e instantly, it creates an angle which is harder for the other player to shoot at. It started in siege im pretty sure but works in this game too. Thats what i meant in lowering the skill level for the game.