Keep in mind this is a tierlist FOR gaia, I'm ranking the races on how good they are for the game if that makes sense? Like I'm taking into account how good they are for fighting, progressing and surviving in current rogue. I've tried to stay as unbiased as possible towards races but tbh I think they are all fairly equal anyway except dinakeri but hey it is what it is. Also construct can be S-tier and azael can be A-tier. Just remember this is my opinion, you might disagree with my placements and if you do then comment it and I will be happy to get into a heated internet argument over rogue lineage races lol You may have realised that this video is a little longer than usual 😂yeah this why I wasn't uploading + irl stuff srry ab that lmao So yeah, sit back, relax, grab some snacks or play this in the background while you do whatever you do and most importantly, enjoy the video!
Met a gang of ashiins in purgatory and we decided to go ultra ganking. One of the best days I've had on RL, ever. We have the strongest bond out of all the races in gaia combined.
Having construct also makes tundra very easy to traverse, ganking in Tundra also gives you more of an advantage too because not many ultras have cold resistance like you would.
Short version: Dina: haha chaotic go brrrrrrtttttt, haha runes go deja vu be brrrrrrrrtttttt Dzin: esp but low budget, also somehow I forget it have a counter Vind: fuck mage, I have the high ground Navaran: hey can I emulate a *sigil helmet* ?!?!?!?! Morvid: feather fall is useful and you got mana when born, but you're somehow cannabis Madrasian: "rift gem in sentinel" Hesldan: I never did understand how to spell it's name correctly, but you're basically a berserker Gaian: robot gaming Scroom: scroom gaming Construct: *drug making moment* Cameo: motherfucker I'm undying Metascroom: as it's name suggest, it's so fucking busted and the user using it are normally toxic as fuck Rigan: don't be racist please, rigan is my bro and the mana charge and ice damage is super useful Fish: *commit dodge* Kasperan: literally the greatest race across all, 4 life is what it makes it good for freshie, in late game it become even better Castellan: ....I worth 200 robux, that's all Pumpkin: ooooooooooo yu r scareddd oooooooooo Ashiin: DO NOT underestimate a freshie ashiin Azael: so you spent years just to get a race with free rift gem?
@@moistorphan5110 that is like saying morvid is lower tier it only has a bootleg lannis What makes ashiin strong is shoulder throw (shoulder throw+rampage is deadly ☠️)
I don't agree with the Morvid placement. Literally has I frames and takes like no fall damage. I don't understand how Gaian goes above that let alone Ashiin. Flock gets you out of so many situations and combos. Gaian loses access to classes due to armor downgrades, it has slower passive regen, can't eat mouthwatering meat. There's just a lot more downsides to Gaian compared to Morvid which has virtually 0. Morvid is op in Gaia and it's meta in Khei.
Ashiin 1 combos and gaian is just generally better, morvid s are really good and flock is rlly good cuz u can escape some combos but isnt as good as races in s tier
Morvid's Flock is insane, but it's a long con race if you can't be boosted to Flock. It also doesn't help that other Morvids can eat you for food if you don't have a significant chance of defending yourself. Feather Falling, however, is VERY useful early-mid game to escape using cliffs. You can gain huge leads on others using cliffs that otherwise would deal rough damage or outright down you. Feather Falling is useless when trying to run from Spies, DSlayers, DSages, Faceless, Shinobi, or other Morvids in general, but it definitely makes a difference if you need a rapid getaway.
@@lordpumpkinhead265 The only cons that come with it are very early game. You only stay in early game for like 5 hours, so that shouldn't even be a big issue. Feather falling is useful in every stage of the game. There will be many instances where you get hit off huge cliffs by Dsages and other classes, and you will barely take any damage. Any other race would take huge damage and the fight would be over shortly unless they were Spy, Shinobi, or Dsage. Flock is an op ability that gets you out of almost any combo and you're basically immune to infinite combos. I personally think that makes it S tier.
Morvid should go s tier cus in my opinion its the best combat race. You can escape any combo (really helpful when lots of dslayers and facelesses are showing up cus their combos are easy to escape with flock) and the extra feather falling saves my ass so many times its unbelievable. Also flock makes u immune to the fire in temple of altum, making backfire gates less scary to jump through. this is super fuckin bais cus morvid was my first race and i literally cannot play with any other race now because of the amount of fall damage they take. Its just that morvid works well with any class and the fact that it can go vamp makes it better than fischeran imo. Dzin should go to a tier, cus from my experience everyone just dips until awakening runs out, meaning you have to be a high mobility class for it to actually work well. If you attack a dzin while they have awakening your asking for death
dzin is s tier ur just fighting bad players, also morvid i mean like its basically s tier i just think the s tier races are better and its usefulness matches a tier more
@@geo6151 i mean awakening is really good in some situations but 90% of the time the guy your fighting will just dip and if your a sigil or oni you cant rlly do anything about it
@@geo6151 I don't understand how you put Gaian over Morvid. Gaian late game has slow hp regen, and the only other way they can heal is repair. If the enemy is constantly applying pressure, you can't do much. Morvid has literal I frames and a quick getaway with feather fall. The cooldown on flock is so fast. Morvid should be in S tier. It has to be better than Gaian but not Metalscroom.
@@kozuk3721 gaian is better than morvid all around with more tankiness and useful passives + repair like for example morvid sigil or gaian sigil, morvid dsage or gaian dsage, morvid shinobi or gaian shinobi, gaian is just more useful than morvid im not saying morvid is bad gaian is just generally better for pvp
I got haseldan on my blacksmith alt I got yesterday And it saved my so many times and I rlly like it so should I reroll my navarn for haseldan? (On my main)
@@geo6151 dullahan cant go vamp so its bad for dslayer and other classes the regen passive doesnt exist the only good thing it gets is pumpkin grenade which isnt even that good... tons of other races are better than dullahan
kasparans underrated, very beginner friendly race however there are still some races which is superior in terms of pvp (dinakeri, navaran etc.) Overall this race is good for farming, good for PVP as well due to dragon scales and Respiraire and can also evolve upon going to khei.
@@rayashiblie Yea. Most of what I said was meant as a joke. Kasparan is *really* good, but Kasparan is just the race that's memed as being the best because Kasparans are just cool. I mean, Dorgan. . . yea. . . But yea, Kasparan deserves its A-tier. Dzin is quite possibly the best one.
All the dodge races should be in A tier in my opinion they are good but if you can play around Fischean dodges it’s just raceless dzin can be played around with furnatur which just gets rid of all their dodges in like 2 seconds but morvid has true I frames which is far better and dzin can go evamp but they have to wait till day 30 and morvid scan get flock very easily so move the dodge races to A and morvid into s.
4:10 "Castellan is also C-tier, and lemme explain why. Castellan is not a good race." That sums it up. Good work, that's all you had to say. XD But seriously, good video
Rigan is a or s tier and people might think i am on crack but u can do inf spell combo and combine it with dsage and spider clock its one of the most terrifying builds u can see
morvid is better then kasp vind and haseldan by a large margin bro, its an s-tier race. its 100% on par with dzin or navaran; it combos great with so many classes and gives u a fucking free lannis basically
As a co haseldan main all I'm going to say is being able to one combo when you are one shot yourself isn't too useful and the bloodline logic only works in 1v1s as in ganks you are not gripping an entire gank squad in 30 seconds and they can just use long ranged executes like ignis or something
Imo gaian would only be A/B tier since it just isn’t as good as the other races on S tier, the fact that Gaian armour restrains most classes with the exception of dsage just doesn’t make it S tier for me, I think it’s unfair putting that and mscroom on the same level, as exhaust is an amazing pvp move and decomposing with 5x defence is a nice perk on top.
Gaian and mscroom are literally equal, mscro exhaust, repair and decompose with the pvp passives is really good and gaian just has the same shit without exhaust but makes up for it with inf hunger and op armor and repair
@@geo6151 Inf hunger is slow and you lose access to chef class. Other races can just eat mouthwatering meat and get full hp insanely quick. While metalscroom can't eat good either, then can just be bard and play vinifera while you're decomposing. You gain your hunger back pretty quickly, you have exhaust, and you get the hp with vinifera and decompose. Gaian loses access to a bunch of stuff. It's only good with certain builds. I think it's probably just high A-tier.
Honestly the tier list is really good, but i see no reason for madrasian to not be C tier. It literally has nothing to help you in a actual fight, the best you can do you use trinket shift to sneak attack a person. Compared to every single other race which at least have something to help out with dmg (besides scroom and castellan, but thats why they are in C tier) they are a terrible race.
Madrasian is heat, i would def put it in A tier just because it completely confuses the enemy. They cant tell what block youre holding, which direction to block, and in certain areas youre invisible. Its good for starting the fight with a free combo, being annoying in the middle of the fight, and getting away when youre low
you have the upperhand because madrasians are basically always the first person to start a combo also its insanely hard to hit an trinket shifted madrasian its really hard to see
The one flaw about literally everything that people are saying: trinket shift has such a high amount of days needed it's completely useless in progression and for quite a while even after you've maxed, plus one of the few races in the entire game that gives nothing in terms of actually increasing your damage. Yet another thing, the tier list is also based off the builds you can do with it but really the only build thats good with madrasian ends up being faceless
@@x_Melody_y there are two races that increase dmg idk wym and madrasian is good on everything ik a guy who has a madrasian ff deep and a guy who has a madrasian philo illu and its rlly good
how can you put construct at A man, its still top tier. it's not trash anymore just because you can't chug 15 pots in 5 seconds, its still really good because: - with geli spam being a part of the meta, the 3.75x cold res is really good - good race res, especially for classes without res, and its still good for classes with res, as a way to save your res for a gank - while health pots got nerfed, you can still definitely chug (especially with high mobility classes like shinobi, just grapple and chug in the air, or like a hoppa mage and still chug while hoppaing away) - its a good option to consider if your race is bad, or if one of your old race abilities carry over to your new race (for example, azael turned construct keeps gate, and you can go over 2 lives with it plus get the above pros) construct is definitely high S, maybe not the highest, but its up there rest i agree with or at least understand. good vid, i liked your "race in 60 seconds" vids
bro 1 chugging is not always reliable 2 cold res is useful when you dont know tundra 3 galvinize is legit the worst revive in the game A tier race def not comparable to the S tiers
Im Username > chugging isnt always reliable good, it shouldnt be. but at least you have a chance to chug and regain 20% of your hp back in like 3 seconds > cold res is useful if you dont know tundra and also good against geli spam > galvanise is the worst revive in the game *haseldans would like to know your location* it gives 100 hp back and revives you, thats how much resurrection on shinobi would give (if not less) just without the need to grip an ultra and wait a day. i know it can be countered by nocere but if your reactions arent shit and you dont get 1 comboed you will mostly be fine keep in mind galv has a 5 min cooldown, and while its not that good, its still *very* decent and much better than not even having res theres no way metascroom or fischeran is better
@@LazoGT Get your head in the game. It gives half your hp back, and you can only use it once in a fight if you chugged pots before or after. Literally not even that good anymore.
Construct galvinize has a 20 minute cooldown also i think dullahan is better then ashiin because of one the infinite hunger without drawbacks and 2 shoulder throw is devistating but its really really really hard to land depending on your class (a bit easier for spear classes because of the range of the spear) because shoulder throw has a really wonky hitbox compared to pumpkin grenade which is good for deepforest/sigil fights and really easy to use since you can legit land it everytime from a knockdown from anyspell extending combos for facelesses, shinobis, anyspear class, dsk, legit anyclass in the game pumpkin grenade is good for even druid still think its A tier but definitely not over ashiin
yeah i get what u mean but imo shoulder throw has higher potential with being able to instantly delete people in a single combo, pumpking grenade can do stupid ragdoll inf combos but they are slower and can be interrupted easier also yeah shoulder throw hitbox is wonky sometimes im an ashiin i get what u mean but really when u master it its op
Scroom is a amazing starter race for new players. Scroom can get you free food and not breaking bones helps when learning tundra. Also scroom grips lol
Surprised that you put dullahan in A tier (i mean not complaining since I'm a dullahan myself) but like i hear alot of people shitting on it since they say like "oh the only really good thing about it is the inf hunger and drip" and thats really all i hear from peeps and at most i thought you would have put it in B tier
disagree for castellan it says if you. want 2 snaps you can get soul snap smh it takes hp and you can get a snap without losing hp and get a soul snap also the more health the better
You forgot that morvid is the perfect race for gaia because its really good for mobility which is very useful escaping fights having the upper hand is alot of places and cliff/tree fighting which is legit 60% of the time ur ganking (tundra oresfall on top of sentinal) and you can literally escape out of any situation because you can charge mana in flock personally i would put it as S tier very meta race
That's what I'm saying bruh. Oni coming to one combo? Flock. Faceless coming to one combo? Flock. Getting chased in a high location? Flock. Flock gets you out of so many situations, and feather fall on top of that just makes it S tier imo.
@@geo6151 Sure. I can see how the buffs of S tier races can be very busted if used correctly, but I feel like Morvids better than every other A tier race.
i think there should be an f tier just for castellan, allow me to explain. so the issue with castellan is its only good for mage right? but thats ok, mages are pretty good, but everybody and i mean almost every single person who has ever purchased rogue HATES mages, so its either be raceless or be hated to the point where you get doxxed (idk if anybody has ever been doxxed for being a mage but still, nobody likes mages)
@@geo6151 S - Dzin (dodges), Constuct (rlly only super good on mobility classes but its still good on non mobility classes), Morvid (try to kill a snap geli morvid faceless you cant) A - Navaran (good on most classes can make a lot of good builds), Fischeran (would be higher but cant go vamp so u cant play dslayer/other slow classes), Dinakeri (only downside is getting one shot by wfcb), Gaian(pretty solid race if theyre a shinobi or oni just freeze them you cant do anything to them), Madrasian (trinket shift is really good) B - Metalscroom(bad for dslayer etc gaian armor is better for some builds), Ashiin (shoulder throw combos), Kasparan (slash res and fire res is rlly good u outheal fire as a vamp kasp dsk plus ur tankier), Cameo (only good as a shinobi, D tier for other classes) C - Rigan (x2 mana charge, not that good), Castellan (just go cons and soul snap), Azael (just go cons and soul snap/snap gate race is terrible for pvp) D - Vind (Only good on mages and shinobi but cons is just a better option), Dullahan (Regen passive doesnt exist, pumpkin grenade is near useless, cant go vamp so cant play slow classes or dslayer) F - Scroom (its a scroom)
Dzin not so good. Its should be on top of A tier cuz duration of awakened is 25 second and only 10 dodges. ALSO its have a very big 60 sec cd. You can use awakened only 1-3 times in 1 gank. Morvid should be S tier. You can literally use flock then charge mana and snap geli. Ez you dipped. Flock cd only 13 second's.
No offensive I personally disagree when ur haseldan placement. he should of been on F if it was on this tier list the race requires you to be one tap before ur race to actually matter. and ur blinded when is nightime or any remotely dark area compared to other races it just ass and being realistic if you gotten that low in the first place most likely you were already getting combo up. so u already be dead by then and you regen wouldn't do shit even if u somehow had a good amount. oh hp with last stand you probably get shitted on again since ur blind and you can't forget their shitty res that gives like 5% of their hp back so you either get evaded for 30 seconds. or getting shitted on again since u had no hp. Tdlr haseldan requires gaia haseldan requires u to be one shot to matter and by then you probably be dead by then and unrelated but the khei haseldan buffs are so substantial is not even worth using imo
imagine not being able to extend combos to insane lengths with shoulder throw or being able to have stupid stuff like Dslayer light piercer or Deep Knight spear crusher
Metal scroom and gaian is not the same. Gaian definitely is worse than metal scroom in every way and the fact that metal scroom don't have to spend 500 silver on upgrades
haseldan at A tier oh nahhhh, B tier at most cuz you can just wait out the haseldan rage boost by running or just dodging/blocking the haseldan's attacks. ur buggin out brodi
Kasparan is garbage compared to other races geo. You have no buffs that are useful except 4 lives until 15 days. It’s garbage unless you go vamp right away and it’s still bad
This is the most wack tier list ever. Azael is almost completely useless for combat, and belongs nowhere near S, being strictly a progression race and also becoming completely obsolete in Khei. Haseldan's ability is doocus dogwater and gets almost completely outshined by Dinakeri. Metascroom and Gaian are nowhere near comparable, Metascroom is leagues above because it has 5x damage resist on Decompose, a better version of Detoxify, still has repair, can wear normal armor, and has almost all the buffs of gaian. Navaraan in S tier is debatable because it has the potential to be OP but requires you to find someone willing to give you the ability and can no longer emulate armor. Castellan and Madrasian should switch places; Castellan is an underrated race because increased mana charge is actually very beneficial for a mage, as well as having more scholar boon. I believe it to be better than Rigan in certain circumstances. Madrasian is almost completely useless aside from maybe dayfarming with Trinket Shift but even then it's not that good. Also, why the fuck is ashiin S tier. Get this dogshit out of my face. Shoulder throw is its only ability and is situational at best. Trained combat is only useful on classes that get it anyway, and Mercenary Carry can be obtained for very cheap. It's only a progression race, and like Azael, is completely useless in Khei.
I completely disagree with madrasian. Madrasian might genuinely be THE WORST race in the game only rivaled by scroom. First of all early game and mid game you are basicly raceless, no matter who you shift into someone will want to attack you Shift into a freshie? Basicly everyone will attack you except for some chill ultras, you shift into an ultra? First of all no one is stupid enough to believe someone is a sigil knight commander with a bronze sword and without a sigil helm if you are in midgame and you do that and have a mythril sword and a sigil helm well guess what ultras are not only gonna basicly ALWAYS gonna attack you houses will actively HUNT you with their illusionist and trinket shift should be like day 5 tbh its not good enough to justify it having one of the highest day requirements in the game so lets get to the conclusion madrasian doesnt have anything except two skills one of which is useless except on insanely specific situations and the other one is pretty usefull i admit it however compare that bto navaran it gets ultras emulate earlier than madrasian gets trinket shift like bro? This race is just a gimmick that just isnt very thought out and just doesnt work in the real game. I hate madrasian so much that i would go as far as to say forcing a starter to get an ultra class with madrasian should be legally considered torture. AND TO TOP THAT OFF RACES THAT ARE WAY MORE COMMON ARE INSANELY BETTER. Also why the f is navaran less rare than madrasian?
The current problem with madra's tshift is compatibility. Many moves just DON'T work with it. Dblood turns it off? Runes show even when trinket shifted? it's funny how madra can actually work, just that people don't know how to play it.
@@ec28161 never said trinket shift was bad but compare that to ultra emulate which btw is from a more common race which is also unlocked at day 10 yeah i wouldnt call it good for the insnae day requirement it has
Keep in mind this is a tierlist FOR gaia, I'm ranking the races on how good they are for the game if that makes sense? Like I'm taking into account how good they are for fighting, progressing and surviving in current rogue.
I've tried to stay as unbiased as possible towards races but tbh I think they are all fairly equal anyway except dinakeri but hey it is what it is. Also construct can be S-tier and azael can be A-tier.
Just remember this is my opinion, you might disagree with my placements and if you do then comment it and I will be happy to get into a heated internet argument over rogue lineage races lol
You may have realised that this video is a little longer than usual 😂yeah this why I wasn't uploading + irl stuff srry ab that lmao
So yeah, sit back, relax, grab some snacks or play this in the background while you do whatever you do and most importantly, enjoy the video!
Your voice is really nice
really? i hate the way i sound i cringe so much when i edit my own voice
@@geo6151 that’s not true
@@geo6151 it’s sounds really Relaxing
@@niggagodomg2269 ikr
We respect Ashiin S-Tier ranking
ashiin gang
Met a gang of ashiins in purgatory and we decided to go ultra ganking. One of the best days I've had on RL, ever. We have the strongest bond out of all the races in gaia combined.
@@kingstondaking7877 scroom #1, ashiins are #2 but gaians can bond w any race bc most of them are nice people.
And he is right azael is the most balanced race in the game
except for the fact that you spawn with an artifact...
@@imusername1 2 lives
@@imusername1 well what other thing would make azael worth it?
@@imusername1 the npc that gets you gate is a azael to..
@@yuen_washere i MEAN SHIT THEY ALREADY GAVE IT PARTIAL INF LANNIS
Having construct also makes tundra very easy to traverse, ganking in Tundra also gives you more of an advantage too because not many ultras have cold resistance like you would.
Pretty much every race can tundra walk, it's not like anybody is gonna stay in tundra for 8 minutes without warning
@@genxploits have you ever fought kohei
Kasparan
Short version:
Dina: haha chaotic go brrrrrrtttttt, haha runes go deja vu be brrrrrrrrtttttt
Dzin: esp but low budget, also somehow I forget it have a counter
Vind: fuck mage, I have the high ground
Navaran: hey can I emulate a *sigil helmet* ?!?!?!?!
Morvid: feather fall is useful and you got mana when born, but you're somehow cannabis
Madrasian: "rift gem in sentinel"
Hesldan: I never did understand how to spell it's name correctly, but you're basically a berserker
Gaian: robot gaming
Scroom: scroom gaming
Construct: *drug making moment*
Cameo: motherfucker I'm undying
Metascroom: as it's name suggest, it's so fucking busted and the user using it are normally toxic as fuck
Rigan: don't be racist please, rigan is my bro and the mana charge and ice damage is super useful
Fish: *commit dodge*
Kasperan: literally the greatest race across all, 4 life is what it makes it good for freshie, in late game it become even better
Castellan: ....I worth 200 robux, that's all
Pumpkin: ooooooooooo yu r scareddd oooooooooo
Ashiin: DO NOT underestimate a freshie ashiin
Azael: so you spent years just to get a race with free rift gem?
As a Kasparan player myself, *YES*
freshie ashiins are all fodder
Azael missing
How do you not know how to spell haseldan
@@jay8859 i forgor :skull:
I love how back then ashiin was like c tier now it is top tier
It’s really not this guy is just kinda dumb
its still low tier, all it has is shoulder throw and this guy is smoking something
@@moistorphan5110 that is like saying morvid is lower tier it only has a bootleg lannis
What makes ashiin strong is shoulder throw (shoulder throw+rampage is deadly ☠️)
@@moistorphan5110 ashiin shinobi and ashiin oni makes it A tier imo
I don't agree with the Morvid placement. Literally has I frames and takes like no fall damage. I don't understand how Gaian goes above that let alone Ashiin. Flock gets you out of so many situations and combos. Gaian loses access to classes due to armor downgrades, it has slower passive regen, can't eat mouthwatering meat. There's just a lot more downsides to Gaian compared to Morvid which has virtually 0. Morvid is op in Gaia and it's meta in Khei.
Ashiin 1 combos and gaian is just generally better, morvid s are really good and flock is rlly good cuz u can escape some combos but isnt as good as races in s tier
Morvid's Flock is insane, but it's a long con race if you can't be boosted to Flock. It also doesn't help that other Morvids can eat you for food if you don't have a significant chance of defending yourself. Feather Falling, however, is VERY useful early-mid game to escape using cliffs. You can gain huge leads on others using cliffs that otherwise would deal rough damage or outright down you. Feather Falling is useless when trying to run from Spies, DSlayers, DSages, Faceless, Shinobi, or other Morvids in general, but it definitely makes a difference if you need a rapid getaway.
@@lordpumpkinhead265 The only cons that come with it are very early game. You only stay in early game for like 5 hours, so that shouldn't even be a big issue. Feather falling is useful in every stage of the game. There will be many instances where you get hit off huge cliffs by Dsages and other classes, and you will barely take any damage. Any other race would take huge damage and the fight would be over shortly unless they were Spy, Shinobi, or Dsage. Flock is an op ability that gets you out of almost any combo and you're basically immune to infinite combos. I personally think that makes it S tier.
if u could watch th-cam.com/video/zC6LBsTwmI8/w-d-xo.html and say ashiin is not S tier, u probably have not fought any good ashiin mains
Morvid should go s tier cus in my opinion its the best combat race. You can escape any combo (really helpful when lots of dslayers and facelesses are showing up cus their combos are easy to escape with flock) and the extra feather falling saves my ass so many times its unbelievable. Also flock makes u immune to the fire in temple of altum, making backfire gates less scary to jump through. this is super fuckin bais cus morvid was my first race and i literally cannot play with any other race now because of the amount of fall damage they take. Its just that morvid works well with any class and the fact that it can go vamp makes it better than fischeran imo. Dzin should go to a tier, cus from my experience everyone just dips until awakening runs out, meaning you have to be a high mobility class for it to actually work well. If you attack a dzin while they have awakening your asking for death
dzin is s tier ur just fighting bad players, also morvid i mean like its basically s tier i just think the s tier races are better and its usefulness matches a tier more
@@geo6151 i mean awakening is really good in some situations but 90% of the time the guy your fighting will just dip and if your a sigil or oni you cant rlly do anything about it
@@geo6151 I don't understand how you put Gaian over Morvid. Gaian late game has slow hp regen, and the only other way they can heal is repair. If the enemy is constantly applying pressure, you can't do much. Morvid has literal I frames and a quick getaway with feather fall. The cooldown on flock is so fast. Morvid should be in S tier. It has to be better than Gaian but not Metalscroom.
@@stoonie2202 thats exactly why its s tier they cant do shit to u in that time period
@@kozuk3721 gaian is better than morvid all around with more tankiness and useful passives + repair like for example morvid sigil or gaian sigil, morvid dsage or gaian dsage, morvid shinobi or gaian shinobi, gaian is just more useful than morvid im not saying morvid is bad gaian is just generally better for pvp
I got haseldan on my blacksmith alt I got yesterday And it saved my so many times and I rlly like it so should I reroll my navarn for haseldan? (On my main)
nooOOO navaran is very good u will regret it
if u reroll nav i will be at your front door armed
Aight
@@geo6151 love your vids btw
Am to lazy to go to tundra for helm anyway
Dullahan have 2x regen at night and it can stack with armor and etc, aswell you can inf ragdoll on dullahan
the x2 regen doesnt exist and pumpkin grenade does no dmg
@@ec28161 doesnt need too it makes room for combos
Yea but its not as good as ashiin which is why its a tier
@@geo6151 dullahan cant go vamp so its bad for dslayer and other classes the regen passive doesnt exist the only good thing it gets is pumpkin grenade which isnt even that good... tons of other races are better than dullahan
As a Kasparan, I agree with everything here. Kasparans *are* slept on, and are the most Chad race in the game.
But they also deserve S-tier. XD
kasparans underrated, very beginner friendly race however there are still some races which is superior in terms of pvp (dinakeri, navaran etc.) Overall this race is good for farming, good for PVP as well due to dragon scales and Respiraire and can also evolve upon going to khei.
@@rayashiblie Yea. Most of what I said was meant as a joke. Kasparan is *really* good, but Kasparan is just the race that's memed as being the best because Kasparans are just cool. I mean, Dorgan. . . yea. . .
But yea, Kasparan deserves its A-tier. Dzin is quite possibly the best one.
@@yohumanfrisk kasparans are memed on a lot since they just give off a sinister energy
no kasparans are shitty metal scrooms and thats all the will ever be *Deal With it*
@@imusername1 scrooms go into my eyes vigivoru pizza
This video is nice. Good job
Im a riggan main and when i play on my alts its weird to have a mana bar that take so much time filling up,
I feel like i am so slow.
All the dodge races should be in A tier in my opinion they are good but if you can play around Fischean dodges it’s just raceless dzin can be played around with furnatur which just gets rid of all their dodges in like 2 seconds but morvid has true I frames which is far better and dzin can go evamp but they have to wait till day 30 and morvid scan get flock very easily so move the dodge races to A and morvid into s.
4:10 "Castellan is also C-tier, and lemme explain why. Castellan is not a good race."
That sums it up. Good work, that's all you had to say. XD
But seriously, good video
Forgot inf bane and mana fly again my friend
also s tier stands for synapse lol
Not funny, didn’t laugh
@@boop938 It's the truth doe.
I have a question.. can bsmith nav emulate hyperbody?
Rigan is a or s tier and people might think i am on crack but u can do inf spell combo and combine it with dsage and spider clock its one of the most terrifying builds u can see
good video, a lot of effort and thought, should get more views 👍
morvid is better then kasp vind and haseldan by a large margin bro, its an s-tier race. its 100% on par with dzin or navaran; it combos great with so many classes and gives u a fucking free lannis basically
"the races don't even make a massive difference" ok i don't even need to watch the video
ok but when did i say that 😐
@@geo6151 edited my comment
They dont
@@genxploits unless fisch
As a co haseldan main all I'm going to say is being able to one combo when you are one shot yourself isn't too useful and the bloodline logic only works in 1v1s as in ganks you are not gripping an entire gank squad in 30 seconds and they can just use long ranged executes like ignis or something
Imo gaian would only be A/B tier since it just isn’t as good as the other races on S tier, the fact that Gaian armour restrains most classes with the exception of dsage just doesn’t make it S tier for me, I think it’s unfair putting that and mscroom on the same level, as exhaust is an amazing pvp move and decomposing with 5x defence is a nice perk on top.
gaian shinobi
Gaian and mscroom are literally equal, mscro exhaust, repair and decompose with the pvp passives is really good and gaian just has the same shit without exhaust but makes up for it with inf hunger and op armor and repair
@@geo6151 Inf hunger is slow and you lose access to chef class. Other races can just eat mouthwatering meat and get full hp insanely quick. While metalscroom can't eat good either, then can just be bard and play vinifera while you're decomposing. You gain your hunger back pretty quickly, you have exhaust, and you get the hp with vinifera and decompose. Gaian loses access to a bunch of stuff. It's only good with certain builds. I think it's probably just high A-tier.
Video ideas: make race in 60 seconds but for ultra/uber classes! I would love to see that.
lets go bruh, kasparan finally gets some light
On what skills does dinakeri rune buff does not apply to
Its physical buff so not spells
So does it apply to every skill in the game except for like rampage and spells?
Seraph, ascended narv, and lich malding rn
i mean obv they are s+ i just didnt rank them cuz unobtainable to normal player
Man it was funny at first I didn't see "Rogue Lineage" at the end
REAL LIFE RACE TIERLIST
Honestly the tier list is really good, but i see no reason for madrasian to not be C tier. It literally has nothing to help you in a actual fight, the best you can do you use trinket shift to sneak attack a person. Compared to every single other race which at least have something to help out with dmg (besides scroom and castellan, but thats why they are in C tier) they are a terrible race.
Madrasian is heat, i would def put it in A tier just because it completely confuses the enemy. They cant tell what block youre holding, which direction to block, and in certain areas youre invisible. Its good for starting the fight with a free combo, being annoying in the middle of the fight, and getting away when youre low
trinket shift is like one of the best things in the game
you have the upperhand because madrasians are basically always the first person to start a combo also its insanely hard to hit an trinket shifted madrasian its really hard to see
The one flaw about literally everything that people are saying: trinket shift has such a high amount of days needed it's completely useless in progression and for quite a while even after you've maxed, plus one of the few races in the entire game that gives nothing in terms of actually increasing your damage. Yet another thing, the tier list is also based off the builds you can do with it but really the only build thats good with madrasian ends up being faceless
@@x_Melody_y there are two races that increase dmg idk wym and madrasian is good on everything ik a guy who has a madrasian ff deep and a guy who has a madrasian philo illu and its rlly good
Great video!
I think you should do the same thing you did with race's but with classes, that would be pretty fun to watch
maybe
After hasleden I just liked cause he's right
I feel like ur biased towards ashiin, i think ashiin should be A tier
No
words cant explain how fast he would get cancelled if he was talking about real life
Where is lich
Unranked cuz mod race but obv ss tier
@@geo6151 your right it’s like a cons Gaian scroom mix of a monster
good video fr
so, i spent 130 dollars on getting dinakeri, didn't roll it once guess im sticking with my ashiin on my main and dzin on my alt.
Why did you spend 130 dollars for dinareki
Damn
Blud wasted money😭😭😭
lets go
Bro suck a good video I’ve always wanted a good tier list for rouge races
Try to do a khei version
Madrasians winning
Yea madrasian op in khei
cameo doesnt have less hp
how can you put construct at A man, its still top tier. it's not trash anymore just because you can't chug 15 pots in 5 seconds, its still really good because:
- with geli spam being a part of the meta, the 3.75x cold res is really good
- good race res, especially for classes without res, and its still good for classes with res, as a way to save your res for a gank
- while health pots got nerfed, you can still definitely chug (especially with high mobility classes like shinobi, just grapple and chug in the air, or like a hoppa mage and still chug while hoppaing away)
- its a good option to consider if your race is bad, or if one of your old race abilities carry over to your new race (for example, azael turned construct keeps gate, and you can go over 2 lives with it plus get the above pros)
construct is definitely high S, maybe not the highest, but its up there
rest i agree with or at least understand. good vid, i liked your "race in 60 seconds" vids
bro
1 chugging is not always reliable
2 cold res is useful when you dont know tundra
3 galvinize is legit the worst revive in the game
A tier race def not comparable to the S tiers
Im Username
> chugging isnt always reliable
good, it shouldnt be. but at least you have a chance to chug and regain 20% of your hp back in like 3 seconds
> cold res is useful if you dont know tundra
and also good against geli spam
> galvanise is the worst revive in the game
*haseldans would like to know your location* it gives 100 hp back and revives you, thats how much resurrection on shinobi would give (if not less) just without the need to grip an ultra and wait a day. i know it can be countered by nocere but if your reactions arent shit and you dont get 1 comboed you will mostly be fine
keep in mind galv has a 5 min cooldown, and while its not that good, its still *very* decent and much better than not even having res
theres no way metascroom or fischeran is better
@@LazoGT Get your head in the game. It gives half your hp back, and you can only use it once in a fight if you chugged pots before or after. Literally not even that good anymore.
Read my pinned comment and compare it to other s tiers
cast isnt that bad u can get 2 free snaps and go cons while u still keep that extra snap
Compared to other races also listen to what i said at start and end of vid
You dont keep extra snap
Construct galvinize has a 20 minute cooldown also i think dullahan is better then ashiin because of one the infinite hunger without drawbacks and 2 shoulder throw is devistating but its really really really hard to land depending on your class (a bit easier for spear classes because of the range of the spear) because shoulder throw has a really wonky hitbox compared to pumpkin grenade which is good for deepforest/sigil fights and really easy to use since you can legit land it everytime from a knockdown from anyspell extending combos for facelesses, shinobis, anyspear class, dsk, legit anyclass in the game pumpkin grenade is good for even druid still think its A tier but definitely not over ashiin
yeah i get what u mean but imo shoulder throw has higher potential with being able to instantly delete people in a single combo, pumpking grenade can do stupid ragdoll inf combos but they are slower and can be interrupted easier
also yeah shoulder throw hitbox is wonky sometimes im an ashiin i get what u mean but really when u master it its op
@@geo6151 agree this actually inspired me to make a dk akuma ashiin power spear crusher ragdolls and shoulder throw misogi
Scroom is a amazing starter race for new players. Scroom can get you free food and not breaking bones helps when learning tundra. Also scroom grips lol
bro...
@@no_gear I have fish too lol
I got fish on my first try lol
my friend went castenline snap celi nighlords shinobi and called himself “the yellow flash” he was goated
Love that name
How’d he go nightlords shinobi???????(
Cameo: Magic is useless, *I am eternal.*
Racially motivated
Nice
Surprised that you put dullahan in A tier (i mean not complaining since I'm a dullahan myself) but like i hear alot of people shitting on it since they say like "oh the only really good thing about it is the inf hunger and drip" and thats really all i hear from peeps and at most i thought you would have put it in B tier
imagine not playing rogue since the first day it came out public. Ha.
i wish
Ikr cringe... I never got an ultra cuz I’m bad at rogue pvp so F
disagree for castellan it says if you. want 2 snaps you can get soul snap smh it takes hp and you can get a snap without losing hp and get a soul snap also the more health the better
You forgot that morvid is the perfect race for gaia because its really good for mobility which is very useful escaping fights having the upper hand is alot of places and cliff/tree fighting which is legit 60% of the time ur ganking (tundra oresfall on top of sentinal) and you can literally escape out of any situation because you can charge mana in flock personally i would put it as S tier very meta race
yea u right but the S tier races are just better for combat
That's what I'm saying bruh. Oni coming to one combo? Flock. Faceless coming to one combo? Flock. Getting chased in a high location? Flock. Flock gets you out of so many situations, and feather fall on top of that just makes it S tier imo.
@@kozuk3721 i understand what ur saying but i just think the s tier races are generally better so lets agree to disagree lol
@@geo6151 Sure. I can see how the buffs of S tier races can be very busted if used correctly, but I feel like Morvids better than every other A tier race.
i think there should be an f tier just for castellan, allow me to explain. so the issue with castellan is its only good for mage right? but thats ok, mages are pretty good, but everybody and i mean almost every single person who has ever purchased rogue HATES mages, so its either be raceless or be hated to the point where you get doxxed (idk if anybody has ever been doxxed for being a mage but still, nobody likes mages)
Me: See's castellan at C tier
Ah ok 🙃
L video bro put Morvid and Construct In A-tier
Yoooooo I just rolled dinakeri 🗿
Is this list for like freshies because if ur an ultra the list is wayyy different
its for all...
@@geo6151 uhhh so like ultra wise its completely different
@@rosewaterinmyface ok then care to explain
@@geo6151
S - Dzin (dodges), Constuct (rlly only super good on mobility classes but its still good on non mobility classes), Morvid (try to kill a snap geli morvid faceless you cant)
A - Navaran (good on most classes can make a lot of good builds), Fischeran (would be higher but cant go vamp so u cant play dslayer/other slow classes), Dinakeri (only downside is getting one shot by wfcb), Gaian(pretty solid race if theyre a shinobi or oni just freeze them you cant do anything to them), Madrasian (trinket shift is really good)
B - Metalscroom(bad for dslayer etc gaian armor is better for some builds), Ashiin (shoulder throw combos), Kasparan (slash res and fire res is rlly good u outheal fire as a vamp kasp dsk plus ur tankier), Cameo (only good as a shinobi, D tier for other classes)
C - Rigan (x2 mana charge, not that good), Castellan (just go cons and soul snap), Azael (just go cons and soul snap/snap gate race is terrible for pvp)
D - Vind (Only good on mages and shinobi but cons is just a better option), Dullahan (Regen passive doesnt exist, pumpkin grenade is near useless, cant go vamp so cant play slow classes or dslayer)
F - Scroom (its a scroom)
@@rosewaterinmyface 🤦
I rolled lesser naravan should i reroll
Scroom and kasps are good B)
CASTELLAN MUST BE S TIER
Dzin not so good. Its should be on top of A tier cuz duration of awakened is 25 second and only 10 dodges. ALSO its have a very big 60 sec cd. You can use awakened only 1-3 times in 1 gank. Morvid should be S tier. You can literally use flock then charge mana and snap geli. Ez you dipped. Flock cd only 13 second's.
Me when ashiin is S tier and morvid is A
No offensive I personally disagree when ur haseldan placement. he should of been on F if it was on this tier list the race requires you to be one tap before ur race to actually matter. and ur blinded when is nightime or any remotely dark area compared to other races it just ass and being realistic if you gotten that low in the first place most likely you were already getting combo up. so u already be dead by then and you regen wouldn't do shit even if u somehow had a good amount. oh hp with last stand you probably get shitted on again since ur blind and you can't forget their shitty res that gives like 5% of their hp back so you either get evaded for 30 seconds. or getting shitted on again since u had no hp.
Tdlr haseldan requires gaia haseldan requires u to be one shot to matter and by then you probably be dead by then and unrelated but the khei haseldan buffs are so substantial is not even worth using imo
I main ashiin
Like I have 3 ashiins
Most fair race tierlist so far tbh
Madrasian isnt on f tier
I rolled Dzin on spawn 0 reroll
Can I join your house
its just friends
@@geo6151 :(
Navaran and ashiin s tier lmao 🤔
imagine not being able to extend combos to insane lengths with shoulder throw or being able to have stupid stuff like Dslayer light piercer or Deep Knight spear crusher
@@PuddleOfCats yeah compare tjat shit to dzins. Why they on the same tier
@@PuddleOfCats imagine having a race that can’t swap between those builds without rerolling
at least explain why u think im wrong :/
Scroom need be s tire cuz you dont get any bust in pvp you start trening in pvp and be come khie scroom guy
Metal scroom and gaian is not the same. Gaian definitely is worse than metal scroom in every way and the fact that metal scroom don't have to spend 500 silver on upgrades
haseldan at A tier oh nahhhh, B tier at most cuz you can just wait out the haseldan rage boost by running or just dodging/blocking the haseldan's attacks. ur buggin out brodi
Listen to what i say in the video before commenting
switch fish and morvid
Da zin.
Also as a azeal main the race is meh
Op for everything except fighting
You forgot to mention castellan 1.2x damage with all spells
They dont thats a myth
Early
Dinikiri when going solans or any orderly class is raceless so I think it’s balanced and deserves A tier
im a nav imo its boring AF ik u can get 1 skill but thats it its just the most boring one man
Kasparan is garbage compared to other races geo. You have no buffs that are useful except 4 lives until 15 days. It’s garbage unless you go vamp right away and it’s still bad
guessing you can't survive 15 days
You clearly have Never fought any kasparan tank build
Ha im First ez
This is the most wack tier list ever. Azael is almost completely useless for combat, and belongs nowhere near S, being strictly a progression race and also becoming completely obsolete in Khei. Haseldan's ability is doocus dogwater and gets almost completely outshined by Dinakeri. Metascroom and Gaian are nowhere near comparable, Metascroom is leagues above because it has 5x damage resist on Decompose, a better version of Detoxify, still has repair, can wear normal armor, and has almost all the buffs of gaian. Navaraan in S tier is debatable because it has the potential to be OP but requires you to find someone willing to give you the ability and can no longer emulate armor. Castellan and Madrasian should switch places; Castellan is an underrated race because increased mana charge is actually very beneficial for a mage, as well as having more scholar boon. I believe it to be better than Rigan in certain circumstances. Madrasian is almost completely useless aside from maybe dayfarming with Trinket Shift but even then it's not that good.
Also, why the fuck is ashiin S tier. Get this dogshit out of my face. Shoulder throw is its only ability and is situational at best. Trained combat is only useful on classes that get it anyway, and Mercenary Carry can be obtained for very cheap. It's only a progression race, and like Azael, is completely useless in Khei.
I beg to differ ashiin pre-khei is so good, outclasses literally any superclass. Making it good for progression and its an overall good race.
10th
First
I completely disagree with madrasian. Madrasian might genuinely be THE WORST race in the game only rivaled by scroom. First of all early game and mid game you are basicly raceless, no matter who you shift into someone will want to attack you Shift into a freshie? Basicly everyone will attack you except for some chill ultras, you shift into an ultra? First of all no one is stupid enough to believe someone is a sigil knight commander with a bronze sword and without a sigil helm if you are in midgame and you do that and have a mythril sword and a sigil helm well guess what ultras are not only gonna basicly ALWAYS gonna attack you houses will actively HUNT you with their illusionist and trinket shift should be like day 5 tbh its not good enough to justify it having one of the highest day requirements in the game so lets get to the conclusion madrasian doesnt have anything except two skills one of which is useless except on insanely specific situations and the other one is pretty usefull i admit it however compare that bto navaran it gets ultras emulate earlier than madrasian gets trinket shift like bro? This race is just a gimmick that just isnt very thought out and just doesnt work in the real game. I hate madrasian so much that i would go as far as to say forcing a starter to get an ultra class with madrasian should be legally considered torture. AND TO TOP THAT OFF RACES THAT ARE WAY MORE COMMON ARE INSANELY BETTER. Also why the f is navaran less rare than madrasian?
Also i only disagree with your castelan and madrasian placement i agree with everything else
The current problem with madra's tshift is compatibility. Many moves just DON'T work with it. Dblood turns it off? Runes show even when trinket shifted? it's funny how madra can actually work, just that people don't know how to play it.
trinket shift is good wym
@@ec28161 never said trinket shift was bad but compare that to ultra emulate which btw is from a more common race which is also unlocked at day 10 yeah i wouldnt call it good for the insnae day requirement it has
@REDACTED_ yeah madrasian slaps in khei i agree thing is im talking about gaia
Once he said vind is good I knew this list was cap
vind is only good with snarv
Vind does give that snarv buff though :flushed:
Nice