its good, in fact, i bought the game just to re-experience star wars story mode again and to play as luke and all other of my favourate characters, love your videos
I did like the story mode. But I didn't like how they lied about it. I remember they advertised the story as you're going to play as the Empire. Yes, you play as the Empire, but only for two missions and the rest you play as the rebellion. That is the part that really annoys me.
Yes, exactly, this is exactly why I dislike this campaign, I hate her defection, it makes no sense other than the fact that Disney ( or EA or Dice) didn't have the guts to make a bad guy story. And If you say it's because Operation Cinder destroyed her home, that doesn't make any sense either. It's just bad writing. I would of preferred a gritty story about a ruthless Imperial spec ops squad that shows the fall of the Empire and the more brutal sides of the war.
@@Acererak0912 I mean, technically it _is_ because Operation Cinder destroyed her home, but it's not consistent. Especially considering what, a couple months at most earlier, she was talking about how "This is where the Rebellion dies" or somesuch. AND she's Special Forces. One would think Special Forces were even more devoted to the Emperor/Empire more than the typical trooper. That's what I hate the most about the campaign. Everything before Operation Cinder was pretty great, then they went and pulled the bait & switch on us.
@@enderlionheart4497 Yeah, I completely agree, I'm just saying it makes no sense for them to destroy an Imperial planet other than the writers making Iden hate the Empire.
@@Acererak0912 You're preaching to the choir my friend. Operation Cinder is one of the stupidest things they came up with for post-Endor content. Imo, how the NR got from Jakku to TFA is even stupider, but that's a whole other conversation.
Yeah sure, because when I think of Star Wars I think of Iden Vertigo (or whatever her last name was). And Women in the Imperium was totally a thing ofc
Bill Burr's performance in The Mandalorian where they refer to Operation Cinder, and the pain in his facial expressions. You know what the operation was about from the game, and seeing Bill's character remember what he must have experienced just hints to a darker side of those events than what we saw in the BF2 campaign. I love the hinting to the tragedy of it all, and wish there was a campaign where you had more direct impact with Operation Cinder.
Yeah, that was pretty cool. Now what really needs to happen is they should create a movie or show to the point that it could eventually make Jedi: Fallen Order and Survivor canon. I mean they've pretty much already made Battlefront II canon. Why not Fallen Order and Survivor?
@@orckingi1208 my uneducated guess is that there is a lot of plot implications. But more realistically, and with honesty, the Fallen Order series doesn’t star a strong female lead.
I just hate the fact that you NEVER get to play as the bad guys. It's always "Play as the Empire (for like two missions and then you're back on the good guy's side)"
2:53 The aurebesh translates to Identity: Iden Versio Born: Kestro, Vardos Jinata System Affiliations: Galactic Empire Special Forces Inferno Squad Intelligence: Expert Pilot Marksman Special Forces Training Survived the Ja-Bess Incursion Captured at Classified Location Status: Extremely Dangerous Examination: Incomplete
Fun fact. Iden versio survived the explosion of the first death star because she chased a Y-wing that was retreating on yavin 4. She then crashed on the planet ans managed to escape. Do what you want with this information.
@@Kamino_k lmao no way we got CUSA propaganda, bet you charge for it dont ya. My mates just did it for free on bf2015 to make that experience more smooth but the loadouts for star cards and added FOV is nice.
What's unbelievable is that in Canon the Empire was defeated in one year on Jakku that this game shows. What IS believable is that in Legends it took 15 or so years for the Empire to stop fighting the New Republic and come to an accordance. Basically, realism should be implemented at least half of the time in Star Wars stories.
And the empire was never fully defeated in Legends, they just signed a treaty with the new republic. I wish the idiots at Disney kept at least the EU up to the Vong and then retold Jacen and Jaina's story to be more about the unifying force.
The Empire was defeated so easily b/c of Operation Cinder and all the actual competent imperials being ushered to the unknown regions (to become the First Order) by pre-placed Sith Eternal Attendants. What's actually unbelievable is that the Rebellion figured it was nothing.
If you want to Star Wars' realism (something its never been concerned about) into question, then it should be noted that the closest equivilant of "the leader dies then shit starts falling apart" is the Nazi's having a total surrender 8 days after Hilter killed himself. In other words: its more realistic that the empire is defeated within a year then signing a peace treaty after 15 of Papa Palpatine dying
The cutscenes were pretty great. I think the main purpose of the story mode was to serve in place of a tutorial. Before they updated it, the move set was applicable to the main game. And I don’t think playing as heroes was a corporate decision. If story mode is a tutorial, then it’s valuable to play as some of the heroes too.
I realized that too once I remembered you run through all the heros. It’s honestly really refreshing when you look at it that way and shows how much the team really did care about the game they were creating
@@virgilmatos5638 Yeah, it's a fun game, I think people just didn't want to like it because we already had a Star Wars Battlefront 2 which was pretty damn good. I've had many fond memories with the online mode for this game
@@Abridgimation No, it was because the marketing lied about the story mode (they marketed it as you playing as the Empire, but you defect to the rebels rather quickly) and the atrocious lootboxes that made the multiplayer pure Pay to Win. Had it not been for EA being the shitty company it's always been, it would have been received a lot better.
"The game doesnt feel like battlefront" but when they add features that make the campaign more like battlefront its "corporate" and there to sell copies. Andrew contradicts himself a lot but this was arguably the most annoying bit for me
Funny thing is i fully undertsand him cuz i do exacly the same, its hard to express your opinion about a thing u like but also dont, and i suck at explaining that, andrew prob shouldve done better since hes a content creator and all that, but i fully understand him
I agree, if anything it shows dedication that they spent time making a mechanic for just one mission. unless it's simply that they forgot to put it anywhere else
The story was good, but the fact that this was advertised as a game about the Empire's perspective then it only gives you three missions where you fight for the Empire was such a let down. Atleast go back before the Battle of Endor to show more of Idens story, giving an opportunity to show the cracks in the Empire beforehand, giving Iden multiple reasons to question the Empire, while also making Operation Cinder feel way more impactful and heart breaking than it was. Operation Cinder would be more of a final straw for Iden and Del because it targeted the people loyal to the Empire, going against the very people they were supposed to protect. We didn't see that until Operation Cinder. This campaign had so much potential.
"Don't you think the Empires done enough damage to innocent worlds?" "Yes and so have we bey destroying the entire bug population on this planet."🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
6:47 What’s funny is she’s actually one of the most over-powered heroes online. I would have never known if it wasn’t for my cousin who has like 800 hours into the game and is disgusting, and he thinks she’s actually one of if not the best hero to use because you can just waste people from a distance
1:20 agreed unlike all the disney stuff this actually felt like Luke. 6:50 lol you're wrong. She's defenitly a menace. 9:53 Yes you can, you just can't shoot them I think. 29:10 compared to the force awakens it's still a lot slower. 30:02 debatable "the saved their skin" and then made the stupid decision of backing out despite battlefront 2 being their most played game at the time. That wasn't just a "mean" decision, that was also just dumb they literally lost money by pulling away from battlefront 2 and trying to save a dead battlefield game. 31:48 wasn't in the game yet. (and no not part of DLC it was part of *promised* live service updates, which they only partially delivered on because it was cancelled before they could finish it.)
Honestly the stealth droid part I kinda like; cause it makes me think of doing recon in 2005 Battlefront 2 with the probe you control as a Galactic Marine or Magnaguard.
I always found it funny and weird that the Wookie Warrior for the Rebels had that. I mean, it's a walking tank, yet it gets the tiny probe droid that is not that helpful in my opinion
@@russianinvader3207 Oh yes. The probe droid waa far more useful in Battlefront 1, and it's honestly more awesome to send in an orbital strike than simply self destruct
The campaign is my favorite part of this game. The story isn't great, but I love single player action adventure games, so it was still very fun. It gives Battlefront a canon purpose rather than just repeatedly shooting and dying over and aver again.
DICE were the developers, EA was the publisher. DICE made an amazing immersive game, EA took that game and tweaked it. When people shit on this game, they’re shitting completely on what EA did to it, not what DICE made.
I’ve heard the complaints about her turning to the rebellion too soon. I think they did this so you had the same kind of experience playing both sides that you do in the main game. It all comes back to it being a tutorial for me. 😂
If you get all the way to the AT AT on Vardos without killing any stormtroopers ( Or very little, I did this a while ago) del says something along the lines of “that was gracious, not killing them”
bro complained for 5 minutes echoing the same point over and over again about there being a stealth section in a game that is not revolved entirely on stealth. My brother in Christ, Iden is special forces. Stealth is kinda in the job description.
From what I know 500k people were on the 1st Death Star and the 2nd one is 8 times bigger but half finished so that means roughly 4 million people just died in that scene
what makes it worse is because the deathstar 2 was still in contruction most of the people that would have died would have been maitenece and builder crew which as shown from the other shows mostly were forced labour
I think that my biggest problem with this campaign is how the tutorial mission introduces you to the idea that you can seal doors by shooting the control panel that opens them, and then never brings that back anywhere else in the game. I can imagine a few missions that could be super fun involving that as a mechanic. (Just some of those ideas for this who are interested): A mission where you need fight you way into a enemy base, and you can seal doors to cut off enemy reinforcements. Eventually you will need to flee the base before it explodes, and the more doors you closed, the harder you make your escape. Hence you need to choose: Deal with more reinforcements in order to maintain an easy escape route, or cut off reinforcements for a harder escape? A mission where you need to navigate a spaceship and hold down multiple points. You can permanently shut down some doors in order to make it harder for the enemy to advance, but you need to be careful which route you close, and with ones you keep open for yourself. A mission where you need to hold down a defensive position and are free to close doors as you see fit, and try to funnel enemies through as many or few chokepoints as you make. Those are just some of my ideas, but you get the point. The game introduces the idea that you can seal doors by shooting the control panel, and then NEVER USES IT AGAIN! (To my knowledge). What kind of game does that?
i love how visually stunning the game is, and I actually don't mind the missions with the OG heroes, I especially love the Luke one. Overall I think its a neat little experience for if you want to kill some time. But I do agree that it would've been nicer to have Iden stay and Imperial for longer.
The fact that you have to sneak up on them for the takedown is why I didn’t realize that you could do it throughout the entire story and not just to beginning
Remember, they advertised/lie about playing as an imperial. barely last an hour. Also one of the worst romance plot. You can tell this was made before ep 9 "somehow he returned" lol
Going into the story with that attitude, no wonder you can't enjoy it for what it is. I'm not saying it's a great story and great gameplay but it's not gonna get any better by going into it like that. I do agree that the Switch to rebels is a bit fast and it would have been interesting to see it more from the Imperial view. We did get more of that in Star Wars Squadrons but that's a very different game, not for everyone.
31:27 wow, so Tie Fighters who are far more maneuverable than X-Wings got hit by the EMP but the X-Wing didn't, and Ties also require better pilots, and the Imperial pilots are trained better, but I guess the X-Wing didn't get hit because it's a good guy and good guys never die from things good guys do right?
@@LukiKruki not exactly, it was a companion novel released a few months ahead of the game actually, and it wasn't meant to fix any plot holes it just provided extra backstory and worldbuilding
I'd say more overhated than underrated. It isn't great, but it's not the terrible thing everyone makes it out to be. I think the difference is that I played it years after it released, so I never went in with the expectation of the main characters staying Imperial throughout the whole thing
@@officialmonarchmusic i think it wouldnt be so hated if it didnt introduce that trash tier plot device that was Operation Cinder, it's the pinacle of not making any sense
I remember the PSP Battlefront had a ground to space mode where you needed to capture the Ion cannon to destroy the enemy ship's shields, after which you would be able to board to destroy the core of it. The gunships were used as respawn points for your team.
I'm sorry but Operation Cinder is quite possibly the most ridiculous thing in Star Wars. Why in the hell would Palpatine give an order to destroy THE EMPIRE on his death? Yes, he's evil. Evil. Not stupid. Evil would be to give an order where the Empire indiscriminately burns its enemies to the ground with no thought of the cost to itself. Stupid is burning down Imperial planets and Imperial planets only for no reason. Of all the ways to contrive an artificial way for the protagonist to join the designated heroes, this was the least thought out and most moronic one.
They couldn’t add coruscant or big city planets because of memory issues but they add in vardos and never make it playable in multiplayer which is one reason I get angry when I replay the campaign
bombastic looks like a Jedi who ended his career a year before Order 66 to make silly Star Wars videos to pursue his true passion in life. we love you man, keep up with the great content you post, by the way, 272 likes have been pressed, with a billion more well on the way
I loved the story campaign tbh, but immediately was turned off when they pulled the B.S. every starwars game does where she "has a change of heart" like it's persona and just randomly switched her entire mindset to be with the rebels, like can we not get one mainline game where we get to play on the dark side????
ESPECIALLY after watching what is likely sever hundred thousand if not millions of people be killed (not all of which were combatants) on the death star.
i considered playing it again for achievements, i recently (about 1 year ago) bought it on playstation but ultimately i didnt do it, sticking to multiplayer
While battlefront isn't originally a stealth game the idea of how they did it for the campaign was smart considering that how the imperial are in star wars just using probe droids to sneak around before they launched an attack
Another issue with the Defection is that, in the books, Iden and Inferno Squad were sent undercover as rebels, and it ruined them. They lost a member, Iden's mother was ashamed of her daughter being a traitor, and it only made Iden more Imperial and would have made it even less likely that she would defect. I believe a better story would have been only Del defecting, or just none of them. I wanted an entire Imperial story. Also, these are the best of the best Imperials, they probably (should) have a heightened sense of loyalty.
Somebody gets it! I read the books too and it's not natural for Iden to defect. But I guess it may also be like “oh actually i see that the empires practices and operations are all bad and stuff”. Still wouldve preferred all empire
@@RaeJinxedIt Yeah, but her defecting destroyed her life and relationship with her mom, and it showed her there were rebels that were just as bad. She shouldn’t have defected again.
Honestly, I enjoyed the campaign, the story was like a 6 but the gameplay and mission design felt more like an 8 for me. Fun to play, could care less why I’m doing what I am.
I loved this story mode (not so much the ressurrection part) but my favorite parts were the game breaking glitches I honestly had every single play through I had. Such as Luke falling out the map, stormtroopers flying and bouncing in the Han Solo Mission, the annoying guy in the han Solo mission flying away, the Leia mission Del just stuck in his "I'm being attacked position forever". and My top 3 favorites, My X-Wing landing upside down on bespin and Jakku, The daughter getting stuck and in a loop shooting a random pole forever, and finally when Iden is shot and later killed, Hask just isnt there.
Great video, dude. Was fun to watch that through again. As far as the single player goes, I wish they had developed the card system into the characters when you play them. But it was very hated at the time. But, man, Takodana as Han is hard without the combat roll ability that he should have been given. Definitely do the DLC, man. That slaps, and the opening mission is BONZA!
I always was of the opinion that the multiplayer need more elements of the campaign and I was disappointed that many of the assets and mechanics of story mode was never in the multiplayer, it's why I loved (Whenever I could) to play galactic march, it felt like it was more than just capture the flag and felt like it had some of the campaign magic.
@@TheSiverFoundation yea i found that quite odd that the empire and rebels didn't get that part of supremacy but the other 2 did tbh I only play clone wars supremacy but it is odd
My only real complaints with the story are that: 1) Cinder remains one of the dumbest and most self-destructive schemes ever. 2) We never really humanize the rest of the Troopers and the reality of mass desertions from a collapsing Empire.
Little side note about ground to space battles. There was actually one single battlefront game which had this, Battlefront Elite for the PSP. Sadly it was limited by the platform it ran on, but it was cool to be able to launch a drop pod from a capital ship and descent to a planet, then get a fighter and go back up
This dude knows the name of everything lmao. I like to think of myself as knowledgeable on star wars lore but he remembers the name of literally everything😂
The campaign really isn’t bad per se. most of the outrage was because it was marketed as a story “from an imperials perspective” and then only the first three or so levels actually accomplished that goal.
It was bad, Operation Cinder and an the imperials following a dumb droid with Palpatine face because reasons, was probably one of the worse piece of written lore in the new canon
@@Fulcrox to be fair it was just adding on to the lore, operation cinder and sentinel droids existed for a couple years before the game came out, in Shattered Empire
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A couple of fashbacks of growing up, a few missions of questioning the orders, cinder a random world, then go for player characters home (so we know exactly what cinder does)
According to the wiki, Iden Versio's was in Jedha and Scarif during Rogue One and if they were actually in the Battlefront 2 campaign showing how these experiences shaped her worldviews the complaints about "defected to the rebels too quickly" will reduce.
I remember playing this with my older brother all the time when we were younger and loving the campaign.... Maybe just because we were younger but I don't have any bad memories about it lol
How do you rate the Battlefront 2 story mode? 🤔
It’s honestly fine, tbh. I played it after Rise of Skywalker update and I thought it was fine.
its good, in fact, i bought the game just to re-experience star wars story mode again and to play as luke and all other of my favourate characters, love your videos
Could have been cooler, also walker assault should have been the main mode, conquest is a battlefield thing
High 8/10
Good
I did like the story mode. But I didn't like how they lied about it. I remember they advertised the story as you're going to play as the Empire. Yes, you play as the Empire, but only for two missions and the rest you play as the rebellion. That is the part that really annoys me.
Yes, exactly, this is exactly why I dislike this campaign, I hate her defection, it makes no sense other than the fact that Disney ( or EA or Dice) didn't have the guts to make a bad guy story. And If you say it's because Operation Cinder destroyed her home, that doesn't make any sense either. It's just bad writing. I would of preferred a gritty story about a ruthless Imperial spec ops squad that shows the fall of the Empire and the more brutal sides of the war.
@@Acererak0912 I mean, technically it _is_ because Operation Cinder destroyed her home, but it's not consistent. Especially considering what, a couple months at most earlier, she was talking about how "This is where the Rebellion dies" or somesuch. AND she's Special Forces. One would think Special Forces were even more devoted to the Emperor/Empire more than the typical trooper. That's what I hate the most about the campaign. Everything before Operation Cinder was pretty great, then they went and pulled the bait & switch on us.
@@enderlionheart4497 Yeah, I completely agree, I'm just saying it makes no sense for them to destroy an Imperial planet other than the writers making Iden hate the Empire.
@@Acererak0912 You're preaching to the choir my friend. Operation Cinder is one of the stupidest things they came up with for post-Endor content. Imo, how the NR got from Jakku to TFA is even stupider, but that's a whole other conversation.
Rebelion for the win 👌🏻
Honestly if the campaign was longer and focused entirely on Iden and her squad this would probably be as epic as the cinematics
Yeah sure, because when I think of Star Wars I think of Iden Vertigo (or whatever her last name was).
And Women in the Imperium was totally a thing ofc
@@ahabduennschitz7670Go touch some grass.
@@ahabduennschitz7670”Iden Vertigo” made my lungs compress and relax so rapidly I nearly passed on from this mortal realm
And, most importantly, if they stayed Imperial
@@ahabduennschitz7670???? Women do exist in Star wars man
Bill Burr's performance in The Mandalorian where they refer to Operation Cinder, and the pain in his facial expressions. You know what the operation was about from the game, and seeing Bill's character remember what he must have experienced just hints to a darker side of those events than what we saw in the BF2 campaign. I love the hinting to the tragedy of it all, and wish there was a campaign where you had more direct impact with Operation Cinder.
He legit should’ve had a golden globe nom for that scene. Superb work
It’s kinda funny that he was talking about how Stormtroopers were treated poorly before he proceeded to kill a garrison full of Stormtroopers.
Yeah, that was pretty cool. Now what really needs to happen is they should create a movie or show to the point that it could eventually make Jedi: Fallen Order and Survivor canon. I mean they've pretty much already made Battlefront II canon. Why not Fallen Order and Survivor?
@@orckingi1208 my uneducated guess is that there is a lot of plot implications. But more realistically, and with honesty, the Fallen Order series doesn’t star a strong female lead.
@@orckingi1208, those games are already Canon.
I just hate the fact that you NEVER get to play as the bad guys.
It's always "Play as the Empire (for like two missions and then you're back on the good guy's side)"
They did this with squadrons too and I’m sick of it
@@KyberKestis squadrons was pretty good
Force Unleashed did it pretty well
Only the OGs will remember Bombastic’s battlefront career
It feels like that those days yesterday dude 😂
Very true lol
I loved the old battlefront videos
Please! Bonker
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2:53
The aurebesh translates to
Identity:
Iden Versio
Born:
Kestro, Vardos
Jinata System
Affiliations:
Galactic Empire
Special Forces
Inferno Squad
Intelligence:
Expert Pilot
Marksman
Special Forces
Training
Survived the
Ja-Bess Incursion
Captured at
Classified Location
Status:
Extremely
Dangerous
Examination:
Incomplete
You deserve a billion likes
Legend
@@Targeting_Timmy For what? For copy-pasting?
@@russianinvader3207you deserve a billion dislikes
I wanna learn the language too
Fun fact. Iden versio survived the explosion of the first death star because she chased a Y-wing that was retreating on yavin 4. She then crashed on the planet ans managed to escape. Do what you want with this information.
Exar Kun strikes again
The book was amazing!
Nah she didn’t this is non canon Disney nonsense
@@Atari_collectoraww boohoo you don’t choose what’s canon
@@Atari_collectoryou dont decide
It’s not just kinda disappointing that Iden takes us out of the Imperial perspective too fast, it’s also that Andrew acts as an uneducated hater.
you're playing Battlefront 2 on PS4/PS5 but why without CUSA? it adds FOV and Ultra Graphics to the game(and more PC settings). Sеаrch TNV CUSA
all andrew did this video was whine lmao
@@Kamino_k lmao no way we got CUSA propaganda, bet you charge for it dont ya. My mates just did it for free on bf2015 to make that experience more smooth but the loadouts for star cards and added FOV is nice.
@@Hyde_way1 who is even playing bf 2015??
@@Mor9347 yeah cos it’s bad.
What's unbelievable is that in Canon the Empire was defeated in one year on Jakku that this game shows. What IS believable is that in Legends it took 15 or so years for the Empire to stop fighting the New Republic and come to an accordance.
Basically, realism should be implemented at least half of the time in Star Wars stories.
I miss the true Emperor and his Imperial Knights.
And the empire was never fully defeated in Legends, they just signed a treaty with the new republic. I wish the idiots at Disney kept at least the EU up to the Vong and then retold Jacen and Jaina's story to be more about the unifying force.
The Empire was defeated so easily b/c of Operation Cinder and all the actual competent imperials being ushered to the unknown regions (to become the First Order) by pre-placed Sith Eternal Attendants. What's actually unbelievable is that the Rebellion figured it was nothing.
@@timsaylor4390solo’s kids have stupid names
If you want to Star Wars' realism (something its never been concerned about) into question, then it should be noted that the closest equivilant of "the leader dies then shit starts falling apart" is the Nazi's having a total surrender 8 days after Hilter killed himself. In other words: its more realistic that the empire is defeated within a year then signing a peace treaty after 15 of Papa Palpatine dying
The cutscenes were pretty great. I think the main purpose of the story mode was to serve in place of a tutorial. Before they updated it, the move set was applicable to the main game. And I don’t think playing as heroes was a corporate decision. If story mode is a tutorial, then it’s valuable to play as some of the heroes too.
I realized that too once I remembered you run through all the heros. It’s honestly really refreshing when you look at it that way and shows how much the team really did care about the game they were creating
@@virgilmatos5638 Yeah, it's a fun game, I think people just didn't want to like it because we already had a Star Wars Battlefront 2 which was pretty damn good. I've had many fond memories with the online mode for this game
@@Abridgimation No, it was because the marketing lied about the story mode (they marketed it as you playing as the Empire, but you defect to the rebels rather quickly) and the atrocious lootboxes that made the multiplayer pure Pay to Win. Had it not been for EA being the shitty company it's always been, it would have been received a lot better.
Droid: “I don’t like you, not one bit”
Andrew: “I don’t like you either”
6:20 “oh you can switch to first person mode, why can’t you do this online?”
You can bombastic.. you can.
"The game doesnt feel like battlefront" but when they add features that make the campaign more like battlefront its "corporate" and there to sell copies.
Andrew contradicts himself a lot but this was arguably the most annoying bit for me
Funny thing is i fully undertsand him cuz i do exacly the same, its hard to express your opinion about a thing u like but also dont, and i suck at explaining that, andrew prob shouldve done better since hes a content creator and all that, but i fully understand him
If that’s what you think is being expresss you’re a mindless sheep that’s only purpose in life is to consume trash like a pig
The campaign is honestly fine. Like I honestly have good memories playing it but it's really not something to write home about.
5:49 Andrew has been endlessly complaining about "this mechanic is nowhere else in the game"
Yeah, but it's cool, so I don't care
So you should agree with him. If the mechanic is cool they should’ve used it more
I agree, if anything it shows dedication that they spent time making a mechanic for just one mission. unless it's simply that they forgot to put it anywhere else
The story was good, but the fact that this was advertised as a game about the Empire's perspective then it only gives you three missions where you fight for the Empire was such a let down. Atleast go back before the Battle of Endor to show more of Idens story, giving an opportunity to show the cracks in the Empire beforehand, giving Iden multiple reasons to question the Empire, while also making Operation Cinder feel way more impactful and heart breaking than it was. Operation Cinder would be more of a final straw for Iden and Del because it targeted the people loyal to the Empire, going against the very people they were supposed to protect. We didn't see that until Operation Cinder. This campaign had so much potential.
Han Solo with a beard is legendary
"Don't you think the Empires done enough damage to innocent worlds?" "Yes and so have we bey destroying the entire bug population on this planet."🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
6:47 What’s funny is she’s actually one of the most over-powered heroes online. I would have never known if it wasn’t for my cousin who has like 800 hours into the game and is disgusting, and he thinks she’s actually one of if not the best hero to use because you can just waste people from a distance
Honestly, I come back to this campaign from time to time just for a bit of entertainment. Wish they would have done more with this game/campaign😢
1:20 agreed unlike all the disney stuff this actually felt like Luke.
6:50 lol you're wrong. She's defenitly a menace.
9:53 Yes you can, you just can't shoot them I think.
29:10 compared to the force awakens it's still a lot slower.
30:02 debatable "the saved their skin" and then made the stupid decision of backing out despite battlefront 2 being their most played game at the time. That wasn't just a "mean" decision, that was also just dumb they literally lost money by pulling away from battlefront 2 and trying to save a dead battlefield game.
31:48 wasn't in the game yet. (and no not part of DLC it was part of *promised* live service updates, which they only partially delivered on because it was cancelled before they could finish it.)
Honestly the stealth droid part I kinda like; cause it makes me think of doing recon in 2005 Battlefront 2 with the probe you control as a Galactic Marine or Magnaguard.
I always found it funny and weird that the Wookie Warrior for the Rebels had that. I mean, it's a walking tank, yet it gets the tiny probe droid that is not that helpful in my opinion
@@welkingunther5417 It's trash.
@@russianinvader3207 Oh yes. The probe droid waa far more useful in Battlefront 1, and it's honestly more awesome to send in an orbital strike than simply self destruct
perfect dark had one
The campaign is my favorite part of this game. The story isn't great, but I love single player action adventure games, so it was still very fun. It gives Battlefront a canon purpose rather than just repeatedly shooting and dying over and aver again.
DICE were the developers, EA was the publisher. DICE made an amazing immersive game, EA took that game and tweaked it. When people shit on this game, they’re shitting completely on what EA did to it, not what DICE made.
I’ve heard the complaints about her turning to the rebellion too soon. I think they did this so you had the same kind of experience playing both sides that you do in the main game. It all comes back to it being a tutorial for me. 😂
If you get all the way to the AT AT on Vardos without killing any stormtroopers ( Or very little, I did this a while ago) del says something along the lines of “that was gracious, not killing them”
bro complained for 5 minutes echoing the same point over and over again about there being a stealth section in a game that is not revolved entirely on stealth. My brother in Christ, Iden is special forces. Stealth is kinda in the job description.
From what I know 500k people were on the 1st Death Star and the 2nd one is 8 times bigger but half finished so that means roughly 4 million people just died in that scene
I thought DS-1 had 1M people?
@@enderlionheart4497 most eu people say 1 million while a lot of other people estimate 500000
what makes it worse is because the deathstar 2 was still in contruction most of the people that would have died would have been maitenece and builder crew which as shown from the other shows mostly were forced labour
The Death Star is 160km in diameter. Death Star II is 200km, so slightly larger.
I think that my biggest problem with this campaign is how the tutorial mission introduces you to the idea that you can seal doors by shooting the control panel that opens them, and then never brings that back anywhere else in the game. I can imagine a few missions that could be super fun involving that as a mechanic.
(Just some of those ideas for this who are interested):
A mission where you need fight you way into a enemy base, and you can seal doors to cut off enemy reinforcements. Eventually you will need to flee the base before it explodes, and the more doors you closed, the harder you make your escape. Hence you need to choose: Deal with more reinforcements in order to maintain an easy escape route, or cut off reinforcements for a harder escape?
A mission where you need to navigate a spaceship and hold down multiple points. You can permanently shut down some doors in order to make it harder for the enemy to advance, but you need to be careful which route you close, and with ones you keep open for yourself.
A mission where you need to hold down a defensive position and are free to close doors as you see fit, and try to funnel enemies through as many or few chokepoints as you make.
Those are just some of my ideas, but you get the point. The game introduces the idea that you can seal doors by shooting the control panel, and then NEVER USES IT AGAIN! (To my knowledge). What kind of game does that?
i love how visually stunning the game is, and I actually don't mind the missions with the OG heroes, I especially love the Luke one. Overall I think its a neat little experience for if you want to kill some time. But I do agree that it would've been nicer to have Iden stay and Imperial for longer.
40:00 ah yes, the X-Wing can tank multiple powerful turbolaser blasts from a Star Destroyer as long as it's Iden flying it because she IS plot armor
The fact that you have to sneak up on them for the takedown is why I didn’t realize that you could do it throughout the entire story and not just to beginning
Remember, they advertised/lie about playing as an imperial. barely last an hour. Also one of the worst romance plot. You can tell this was made before ep 9 "somehow he returned" lol
Going into the story with that attitude, no wonder you can't enjoy it for what it is. I'm not saying it's a great story and great gameplay but it's not gonna get any better by going into it like that.
I do agree that the Switch to rebels is a bit fast and it would have been interesting to see it more from the Imperial view. We did get more of that in Star Wars Squadrons but that's a very different game, not for everyone.
“Can’t enjoy it for what it is”
And what it is is a steaming pile of dogshit
"enjoy it for what it is"
Dog shit?
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We never got the wildly awaited darth maul video game, but we got Outlaws, which literally no one wanted and was trash.
31:27 wow, so Tie Fighters who are far more maneuverable than X-Wings got hit by the EMP but the X-Wing didn't, and Ties also require better pilots, and the Imperial pilots are trained better, but I guess the X-Wing didn't get hit because it's a good guy and good guys never die from things good guys do right?
The Inferno Squad novel gives a lot of interesting backstory into Iden's childhood, and sets up a lot of what we see in the game.
... That's a book released after the game campaign which sole purpose is to fix its plotholes. Like The Clone Wars to Prequel Trilogy.
@@LukiKruki to be fair if they fix lore by making some of the best pieces of media ive ever seen im all for it!
@@LukiKruki not exactly, it was a companion novel released a few months ahead of the game actually, and it wasn't meant to fix any plot holes it just provided extra backstory and worldbuilding
Battlefront 2 Story mode is so underrated.
It isnt lol
It was trash back then, and it's trash by now, the 501 journal is superior in every aspect and it was done by far inferior technology
It’s dogshit
@@Fulcroxwhat I remember about the rise of the empire was…how quiet it was…
I'd say more overhated than underrated. It isn't great, but it's not the terrible thing everyone makes it out to be. I think the difference is that I played it years after it released, so I never went in with the expectation of the main characters staying Imperial throughout the whole thing
@@officialmonarchmusic i think it wouldnt be so hated if it didnt introduce that trash tier plot device that was Operation Cinder, it's the pinacle of not making any sense
I remember the PSP Battlefront had a ground to space mode where you needed to capture the Ion cannon to destroy the enemy ship's shields, after which you would be able to board to destroy the core of it. The gunships were used as respawn points for your team.
I'm sorry but Operation Cinder is quite possibly the most ridiculous thing in Star Wars.
Why in the hell would Palpatine give an order to destroy THE EMPIRE on his death?
Yes, he's evil. Evil. Not stupid. Evil would be to give an order where the Empire indiscriminately burns its enemies to the ground with no thought of the cost to itself.
Stupid is burning down Imperial planets and Imperial planets only for no reason.
Of all the ways to contrive an artificial way for the protagonist to join the designated heroes, this was the least thought out and most moronic one.
13:13 shhh i wanna hear what the Palpatine droid says 😭
Why does this guy look just like Director Krennic from Rogue One?
Iden versio was actually someone who I enjoyed playing as. In the dlc I was surprised by the ending.
Luke's dialogue is fantastic in this game. I like the peaceful wisdom he spouts all the time.
16:12 there actually was a battlefront classic that did space to ground/ground to space battles, but it was only for the PSP release, Elite Squadron
I will say, the scene with the message of Palpatine's Scorch Earth Order was cool as hell
Definitely by no means amazing but I really think the story mode gets a lot of hate it doesn’t deserve
They couldn’t add coruscant or big city planets because of memory issues but they add in vardos and never make it playable in multiplayer which is one reason I get angry when I replay the campaign
Only OG'S remember Bombastic Films of the stormtroopers
bombastic looks like a Jedi who ended his career a year before Order 66 to make silly Star Wars videos to pursue his true passion in life.
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5:30 Iden, why are you here
Iden: Just to suffer
I always have played on PlayStation, but from what I know the resurrection DLC didn’t cost me anything
I loved the story campaign tbh, but immediately was turned off when they pulled the B.S. every starwars game does where she "has a change of heart" like it's persona and just randomly switched her entire mindset to be with the rebels, like can we not get one mainline game where we get to play on the dark side????
ESPECIALLY after watching what is likely sever hundred thousand if not millions of people be killed (not all of which were combatants) on the death star.
love the vids bombastic keep up the good work
i considered playing it again for achievements, i recently (about 1 year ago) bought it on playstation but ultimately i didnt do it, sticking to multiplayer
“another chance to try the stealth mechanics” 8:22
punches soldier in the face 😭
While battlefront isn't originally a stealth game the idea of how they did it for the campaign was smart considering that how the imperial are in star wars just using probe droids to sneak around before they launched an attack
6:20 you can switch to first person whilst online on console, not sure about PC but I’d be surprised if there isn’t a way to do it
Not with heros which is what he was talking about
Luke was perfect in the story. EA wrote a better Luke Skywalker then Disney ☠️
Another issue with the Defection is that, in the books, Iden and Inferno Squad were sent undercover as rebels, and it ruined them. They lost a member, Iden's mother was ashamed of her daughter being a traitor, and it only made Iden more Imperial and would have made it even less likely that she would defect. I believe a better story would have been only Del defecting, or just none of them. I wanted an entire Imperial story. Also, these are the best of the best Imperials, they probably (should) have a heightened sense of loyalty.
Somebody gets it! I read the books too and it's not natural for Iden to defect. But I guess it may also be like “oh actually i see that the empires practices and operations are all bad and stuff”. Still wouldve preferred all empire
@@RaeJinxedIt Yeah, but her defecting destroyed her life and relationship with her mom, and it showed her there were rebels that were just as bad. She shouldn’t have defected again.
People who defend Luke in The Last Jedi dont know who Luke is. Luke in this campaign in that single cutscene IS Luke. Period.
they love to tear down beloved characters for whatever reason
Honestly, I enjoyed the campaign, the story was like a 6 but the gameplay and mission design felt more like an 8 for me. Fun to play, could care less why I’m doing what I am.
All we wanted was a game from the Imperial side and the best they could give us was a couple of missions and then rebel defection bs.
I like this game's story mode
The luke part is the best level and yet its still underwhelming cuz you fight bugs
27:38 my headcannonis that all the detectors made it to the ship with some civilians
I loved this story mode (not so much the ressurrection part) but my favorite parts were the game breaking glitches I honestly had every single play through I had. Such as Luke falling out the map, stormtroopers flying and bouncing in the Han Solo Mission, the annoying guy in the han Solo mission flying away, the Leia mission Del just stuck in his "I'm being attacked position forever". and My top 3 favorites, My X-Wing landing upside down on bespin and Jakku, The daughter getting stuck and in a loop shooting a random pole forever, and finally when Iden is shot and later killed, Hask just isnt there.
Great video, dude. Was fun to watch that through again.
As far as the single player goes, I wish they had developed the card system into the characters when you play them. But it was very hated at the time. But, man, Takodana as Han is hard without the combat roll ability that he should have been given.
Definitely do the DLC, man. That slaps, and the opening mission is BONZA!
Iden is mentioned in SW squadrons as well.
6:53 my favorite band was the LAST thing i expected to be referenced
I love how blatant it is that Star Wars Outlaws uses so much from this story mode, even down to Iden's animations.
I always was of the opinion that the multiplayer need more elements of the campaign and I was disappointed that many of the assets and mechanics of story mode was never in the multiplayer, it's why I loved (Whenever I could) to play galactic march, it felt like it was more than just capture the flag and felt like it had some of the campaign magic.
Yeah we should’ve gotten Vardos and Pillio as playable worlds
@@DDDiego Yeah real shame, same with no star destroyer or mol cala cruiser in supremacy, like why you already modelled most of it.
Battlefront 2 should have got more updates
@@TheSiverFoundation yea i found that quite odd that the empire and rebels didn't get that part of supremacy but the other 2 did tbh I only play clone wars supremacy but it is odd
@@Mimir325 it would have had the devs not gotten moved to 2042 they had no choice in the matter
My only real complaints with the story are that:
1) Cinder remains one of the dumbest and most self-destructive schemes ever.
2) We never really humanize the rest of the Troopers and the reality of mass desertions from a collapsing Empire.
Little side note about ground to space battles. There was actually one single battlefront game which had this, Battlefront Elite for the PSP. Sadly it was limited by the platform it ran on, but it was cool to be able to launch a drop pod from a capital ship and descent to a planet, then get a fighter and go back up
I remember being so shocked that Dell was killed at the end. Just being really confused that it wasnt a happy ever after ending.
"No Space to ground combat except in the cancelled battlefront 3"
Elite Squadron: Am I a joke to you?
This dude knows the name of everything lmao. I like to think of myself as knowledgeable on star wars lore but he remembers the name of literally everything😂
Shriv was seriously one of the most underrated characters in any Star Wars game
this guy would be great at cinema sins
33:43 if you notice the falcons rada4 dish is rectangular instead of a circle, meaning it is closer.to the sequels version of the ship.
Kylo Ren should've been the main villain in the Rise of Skywalker!
The campaign really isn’t bad per se. most of the outrage was because it was marketed as a story “from an imperials perspective” and then only the first three or so levels actually accomplished that goal.
It was bad, Operation Cinder and an the imperials following a dumb droid with Palpatine face because reasons, was probably one of the worse piece of written lore in the new canon
@@Fulcrox to be fair it was just adding on to the lore, operation cinder and sentinel droids existed for a couple years before the game came out, in Shattered Empire
"i've never experienced you being very dangerous in the online mode" is this some sick twisted humor i don't get?
bombastic's battlefront arc was peak back in 2018-2021
I think the artifact Luke grabbed from the vault was from The Last Jedi in his hut on the island?
Love how the entrance to the Corvus is just a steep 4 story ramp.
Bruh, Andrew cried tye whole time 😂
Honesty I liked the story mode brings back memories
"they're about to blow up their own home, but that's not a reason to change sides"... Bruh.
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Woah, it's the first time I see Bombastic's face, a surprise to be sure but a welcome one.
A couple of fashbacks of growing up, a few missions of questioning the orders, cinder a random world, then go for player characters home (so we know exactly what cinder does)
According to the wiki, Iden Versio's was in Jedha and Scarif during Rogue One and if they were actually in the Battlefront 2 campaign showing how these experiences shaped her worldviews the complaints about "defected to the rebels too quickly" will reduce.
I enjoyed the story quite a bit
I remember playing this with my older brother all the time when we were younger and loving the campaign.... Maybe just because we were younger but I don't have any bad memories about it lol
Anithing: happens
Andrew: That's epic
I still love playing this game. Not sure why we haven’t gotten a new one
Hask: Are these your orders? Are these your orders? Because if they are this is treason Andrew: It's treason then
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