I Was Up For Arguing All Night With Nigel Farage & Jacob Rees-Mogg!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 31 มี.ค. 2024
- Having been invited onto @GBNewsOnline For Nigel Farage's show, I was confronted with the honour of also facing Jacob Rees-Mogg.
The word #Brexit wasn't mentioned once, but of course it is the cause of the substandard imports which are now allowed to also have a British label on them thanks to the Brexit freedoms. All of which ensure our #foodsecurity is in trouble.
#britishfarming
#farmersprotest
#farmerprotest
#britain
#rurallife
#countryliving
#foodie
#food
Those men are traitors Liz you shouldn't give them any of your time.
We have to speak to people behind our bubble. We all need food.
@@lizwebstersbfYou did excellently - You showed poise, patience and diplomacy dealing with those traitors.
@@davdonoghue thank you ☺️
@@lizwebstersbfyou had them…. You bloody had the two clowns that are more than partially responsible for the agricultural mess that we are in and you didn’t show them a mirror.
Fantastic interview Liz….. I’m just a keyboard warrior😅 I have no idea what I would say or do if I had those two vile creatures in front of me 🤣 I think you remained very calm and composed. Well done 👍🏻
@@lizwebstersbf Still, I would not be at ease sitting next to two nazis who sold Britain.
Keep putting them in their place Liz.
Snake oil salesmen.
You can't argue with stupid
Thank you !
@oldscholl3670
That's the problem, neither Farage or Rees Mogg are stupid.
They both have, to use Thomas Harris's phrase, "… the patience of a crocodile."
Like any skillful psychopath, they have an unwavering commitment to a lie.
It works.
😔
@PercivalBlakeney agree with you to a point, however they are stupid as they think that people are going believe the bullshit anymore
Firstly, you have to identify who is stupid. Please tell us what you know about EU fiscal union, EU economic union, EU political union, the unification of member states’ armed forces under command of the European Council, the reckless expansionism of the EU across Eastern Europe, and the unfettered migration into the EU from North Africa and the Middle East, at the EU’s open invitation. This will allow me to gauge your level of stupidity.
C'mon......she was doing her best.
Jacob Rees Mogg, the lying machine.
Thank you !
And Nigel Farage, the whining grifter. He's never come up with an actual, workable solution to anything in his life...other than how to make himself a figurehead for the dissatisfied and gullible.
You forgot Nigel Farage as the other (even worse) lying scum.
Cheaper food, BOTH Mogg and Fart.
Cheaper Cloths, Both.
Higher standards, Both (Dropped massively)
No need for European fruit pickers, BOTH, and yet fruit farms are closing due to no staff.
Less (nearly 1/10) of subsidies given to farmers since brexit.
Moggy is great,you talk rubbish
@@dawnslingsby2324 who woke the window licker @dawnslingsby2324 up?
Two multi millionaire, public school boys mansplaining farming to a farmer. Hmm?
Oh, you've beaten me to that one !
This is twa tsplaining.
"Mensplaining"? Using the woke buzzwords there. Not really helping farmers. So this video is woman slpaining? Doing some white knighting there jon.
@@DrJams Is English your second language? I have no idea what you're trying to say.
@@Jon-xw9omWhich part didn't you understand?
I think both Nige lFarage and Jacob Rees-Mogg get paid around £100,000 a month for their work at GBN. So they benefitted from brexit. Why would they care about famers and fishermen?
I think you will find GBN came along many years AFTER Brexit. So how can any income they receive from GBN be motivated by being part of a news channel that did not even exist at the time ?
Lefty logic I suppose ?
Farage, what a joke.
He’s crap at this.
@@sararichardson737 so are his supporters !
@clivethomas6864
Less of a joke, more of a snuff movie… in which the rest of us have unwilling starring roles.
🤢
GBNews' standard response when guests are winning the argument; "Oh sorry, we've run out of time." 🤣
I noticed that.
what next ?
GBN suddenly invents new phenomena called "adverts" as way of shutting people down.
Will these so called "adverts" catch on, do you think ?
Will MSM have to MAKE TIME for them to generate revenue ?
How remarkable and out of the blue to have an advertising break.
Live in a cave do you ?
She spoke for a lot of time without interruption.
Fair play to you Liz. Trying to argue your point with two in denial of reality charlatans
They're not in denial of reality.
They both made out very well.
It's the farmers who swallowed the BS, that got left magic beans in exchange for their cows.
How is it that nigel farage stil listend to after all his lying, unbelievable
I also don’t believe it !
@@SJG-nr8ujwell from that comment it's obvious you're as clueless as lying Nigel.
@@itz4kixAKA The EU will be gone within a couple of years of economic union. The EU wants economic union complete by 2027.
@@verystripeyzebra You're funny. Ignorance matched only by arrogance!
1. THE EU’s FEDERAL INTENTIONS
Lisbon Treaty Article 3.4: “The Union shall establish an ECONOMIC and monetary UNION whose currency is the euro.”
EU Five Presidents’ Report, 2015: “Progress MUST HAPPEN on four fronts: first, towards a genuine ECONOMIC UNION that ensures each economy has the structural features to prosper within the Monetary Union. Second, towards a FINANCIAL UNION that guarantees the integrity of our currency across the Monetary Union and increases risk-sharing with the private sector. This means completing the Banking Union and accelerating the Capital Markets Completing Europe’s Economic and Monetary Union. Third, towards a FISCAL UNION that delivers both fiscal sustainability and fiscal stabilisation. And finally, towards a POLITICAL UNION that provides the foundation for all of the above through genuine democratic accountability, legitimacy and institutional strengthening.”
Angela Merkel’s immediate response to the referendum result, 24th June 2016: “Today is a watershed moment for Europe, and it is a watershed moment for the EUROPEAN UNIFICATION PROCESS. There is no doubt that this is a blow to Europe, and to the EUROPEAN UNIFICATION PROCESS.”
EU Rome Declaration, 25th March 2017: “Working towards COMPLETING the ECONOMIC and monetary UNION” (with a preferred deadline for completion of 2027).
ECB’s ‘Fiscal Implications of the EU Recovery Package’ 2020. “The way that the EU has responded to the crisis also has implications for the future design and implementation of the EUROPEAN GOVERNANCE FRAMEWORK. First, while expansionary fiscal policy is necessary to sustain the recovery, going forward it will be important for the fiscal rules to effectively support the reduction of high government debt in good economic times. Second, NGEU constitutes a new and innovative element of the EUROPEAN FISCAL FRAMEWORK. It will result in the issuance of sizeable supranational debt over the coming years, and its establishment has signalled a political readiness to design a common fiscal tool when the need arises. This innovation, while a one-off, could also imply lessons for ECONOMIC and Monetary UNION, which still lacks a PERMANENT FISCAL CAPACITY AT SUPRANATIONAL LEVEL for macroeconomic stabilisation in deep crises. The review of the ECONOMIC GOVERNANCE FRAMEWORK, which was launched by the Commission in February 2020 and postponed because of the pandemic, provides a GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO INCORPORATE THESE IMPORTANT CONSIDERATIONS.” (NGEU stands for “Next Generation European Union”).
From the EU’s own website: “Once the economic and financial crisis (of 2008/9) was overcome, the EU established a process aimed at reinforcing the architecture of EMU (ECONOMIC and monetary UNION). The process is based on the Five Presidents’ Report on Completing Europe’s Economic and Monetary Union of 2015, which focused on four main issues:
• A genuine ECONOMIC UNION;
• A FINANCIAL UNION;
• A FISCAL UNION;
• A POLITICAL UNION.
These four unions are STRICTLY INTER-RELATED and would develop in parallel. The report was followed by a series of communications, proposals and measures, and the discussion is still ongoing.”
In 2022 all member states reaffirmed their commitment to economic union, as part of Lisbon Treaty Article 3.
2. THE EU’S MILITARY INTENTIONS
Lisbon Treaty Article 42.3: “Member states shall make civilian and MILITARY capabilities available to the Union for the implementation of the common security and defence policy, to contribute to the objectives DEFINED BY THE EUROPEAN COUNCIL.”
The EU’s military headquarters is the Kortenberg Building in Brussels.
The EU Global Strategy, 30th June 2016, issued exactly one week after the referendum, contains the right of the EU’s military “to act autonomously (of NATO) if and when necessary”.
It will need this, because, as you should know, Lisbon Treaty Article 42 commits member states to the defence of a member under attack. So if Ukraine is still under attack when it joins the EU, it will be the EU which is at war with Russia, not NATO. The defence of Ukraine doesn’t trigger the NATO charter.
On 19th February 2019 Federica Mogherini told an audience in Hamburg: “... all the way through the security spectrum, up to the military operations, because not so many know that the European Union has seventeen deployed missions and operations around the world. So, together, we are already a unique global security provider.” I checked this figure recently. It now stands at twenty-one.
On 23rd April 2019 the European Council issued its Military Command and Control Structures document, outlining its military command structure over member states’ land, sea and air forces. The diagram contained within reappears on the Wikipedia page for the Kortenberg Building, above.
In September 2021 Ursula Von der Leyen said this: “But what we need is the European Defence Union. In the last weeks there have been many discussions on expeditionary forces. On what type and how many we need: battlegroups or EU entry forces. This is no doubt part of the debate - and I believe it will be part of the solution. But the more fundamental issue is why this has not worked in the past. You can have the most advanced forces in the world - but if you are never prepared to use them - of what use are they?”
Last year the EU led joint military exercises in Spain. This is taken from the EU’s CSDP website: “The two-part MILEX 23 exercise commenced on 18 September and concluded on 22 October. The first part of this intense period was a 3-week planning phase by the MPCC in Brussels. In part two, this culminated in the EU’s first ever live military exercise from 16 - 22 October in Rota Naval Base, Cadiz, Spain. During Part 2, an EU Battlegroup-sized force carried out the Operational Plan developed by the MPCC in Part 1. Overall, 19 Member States contributed to MILEX 23.”
(CSDP = Common Security and Defence Policy. MPCC = Military Planning and Conduct Capability).
3. Reckless EU expansionism across Eastern Europe - widely known and reported on, including Albania (hotbed of gangsterism and corruption), Serbia and Montenegro (both traditional allies of Russia), Moldova (part of it coveted by Russia), Ukraine (currently at war with Russia), Turkey (instantly the largest, most populous and poorest country in the EU upon joining) and several others, all of which will bring nothing but a begging bowl to the EU’s table. Oh, except for Ukraine, because, as above, Lisbon Treaty Article 42 commits member states to the military aid of a member under attack. So if Ukraine is still at war upon its accession the EU will be at war with Russia.
4. Unfettered migration into Europe from North Africa and the Middle East (the free movement of people was a secret part of the Euro-Mediterranean Partnership, in effect since 2010, and signed between the EU and Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, Egypt, Jordan, Israel, the Palestine Authority, Lebanon, Syria and Turkey). “Eurocrats do not consider (migration) to be a problem, but rather as a project”: Fabrice Leggeri, former Director of the European Border and Coastguard Agency (Frontex).
All this has been going on while you’ve been asleep for the last fifteen years.
@@SJG-nr8uj you wish putin
Informing hypocrites who undermined farming and fisheries, and the only one with a finger on the pulse. Well Done Liz.
Arguing with two idiots! Wow. Great job
Yes, I am more often than not critical about certain issues brought up by Mrs Webster, but it takes a strong person to appear in the lions den facing 2 person's fervently on the opposite side of your views on a channel with a certain biased reputation.
Hats off to her, respect.
@@ab-ym3bf well said
A bit beyond your intellect maybe, because they certainly are not idiots
@@charlieoscar09no they certainly are
@@ab-ym3bf
Name a news channel that isn't biased in some way.
Motor mouth Farage and Rees Mogg won't let her get a word in.
That's how the far right argue. But tellingly they have no solutions, just accusations. Typical again of the extreme right wing conservatives.
and of course, Lefties are always quiet and polite in these situations.
The Grifters, Charlatans & liars unite - the Reese-Mogg/ Farage Co Ltd!
This is is what and who the English voted for.
Don't forget the Welsh.
Evidence for exactly what people voted for ?
No, it's what a tiny minority of fascists and traitors voted for.
Please tell us what you know about EU fiscal union, EU economic union, EU political union, the unification of member states’ armed forces under command of the European Council, the reckless expansionism of the EU across Eastern Europe, and the unfettered migration into the EU from North Africa and the Middle East, at the EU’s open invitation. It shouldn’t take you long!
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I REALLY CAN'T STAND THE HORRIBLE SIGHT OF MAN FROG AND VICTORIAN UNDERTAKER. 🤬🤬🤬
The two gentlemen are yelling like little girls to drown you out...
_The word Brexit wasn't mentioned once, but of course it is the cause of the substandard imports which are now allowed to also have a British label on them thanks to the Brexit freedoms_
But why didn't *you* mention it then, Liz? Why continue to let it be the elephant in the room? Weren't you allowed to use the 'B' word? Would they have cut you short? Were you being 'strategic'?
I wondered this too. Why no mention of the B word by Liz.
"Don't mention the Brexit!" is a rule that is essentially directly lifted from a Fawlty Towers episode, where the Englanders projected that notion on some German tourists (contrary to the Englanders' belief, we talk about the war a lot here on Germany and have been doing so for more than 50 years).
What has the UK got to do with you?
GB news would de-platform her and cancel her if she mentions the B word!
@@SJG-nr8ujyou're comment demonstrates you're as clueless as clueless lying Nigel.
Well done on Schooling those 2 bullies
It didn't look like that to me 🤔
@@charlieoscar09next time pay attention, without those union jack specs on. Might learn something on how you've been conned.
@@soulcrewblue8629 Liz was schooled by JRM. You need to remove your eu glasses and look at what the eu's doing to its farmers. That's why eu farmers are rewilding the eu parliament.
@@charlieoscar09 Or me🤔
@@martin4787 the EU is doing exactly nothing to its farmers. National government's are, and for a reason.
Yes Liz!!!! Keep it up!!!
Farmers choose Brexit.
Brexiters lies
Those are the two clowns that have caused the farmers to suffer.
Mogg is just a complete dimmo.
Farage feigned ignorance and tried to create the impression he was on the side of farmers. What a charlatan. Was hoping you would do a Micheal Crick and hold his feet to the fire.
That said I still think you do a wonderful job of supporting farming and exposing the truth about Brexit.
Keep it up, Liz!
Thank you! Will do!
De Pfeffel Johnson. How do you know he's lying. It's when his mouth moves.
Keep up the good work. I admire your resilience.
i still don't understand how farage attended the farmer's protest,and got out without being pelted with eggs and tomatoes, at least.....he is the main culprit for the situation that farmers and uk is in atm....
Frankly, Ms. Webster, I am surprised you didn't thump 'em! Nigel Farage has even crowed about destroying British farming.
It is stressful & worrying about what is going to happen here, unless or until UK returns to the Single Market. Are the farms just going to go to the wall!? 🤔
The Australian & NZ trade deals make absolutely NO sense from a British perspective. It is great & terrific for Australasia, but for the UK, it is a nonsense.
Hell yeah Liz! 2 against 1 on home ground. You're a boss 😊
Nice one for all the work you're doing.
I seem to remember a 10 year commitment to UK farming subsidies being promised.
You did great, Liz! That was a tough gig for you but you held your ground most ably! ❤🎉😊
You can get an idea of how important is food security by reading up on rationing during (and after) WW2. The UK is _far_ from self-sufficient. Now, there is no guarantee in the event of a catastrophe (perhaps the North Atlantic Gyre collapses or corrupt populists extend their grip beyond Hungary, Slovakia and Italy), that the UK would get wheat from Canada or beef from Australia - let alone food parcels from the US. So many of these Tories seem to think that the UK has a special position in the world, that Canada and Australia will ride to the rescue. It's Little England now, the country is almost irrelevant especially in the face of such a catastrophe.
Spot on.
why on earth does anyone in their right mind give Farage the oxygen of publicity....WHY???
😂😂😂 cause a lot of them are similar to guys like Farage
You did a marvelous job!
How is it an "honour" to face JRM (or anybody else) ?
That medieval concept is part of Britain's problem, the arrival of the 21st century in an 18th century society that cannot adjust.
Tongue in cheek. I welcome the opportunity to challenge them directly!
@@lizwebstersbf Pity there was no mention of the main cause of the farmers current predicament.
It seems obvious to me that the content creator doesn't think the chance to challenge these men is an honour.
As in: 'It was an honour to face JRM as part of his Firing Squad'
The same thought crossed my mind @ab-ym3bf. I had to think twice if she meant "horror"
Well done Liz!!
boris promised ' Not a penny less ' in subsidies to farmers in 2016
Did he keep his word😂
The NUF was all in favour of Brexit wasn’t it? Turkeys, Christmas, voting.
It wasn't. _"Farmers' interests are best served by remaining in the European Union, the National Farmers' Union has said. It passed a resolution following an overwhelming vote in favour of staying in the EU"_ - The Guardian, 18th April 2016
It's noteworthy that the NFU had 55,000 members at the time, out of 130,000 farmers UK-wide. Therefore, given that the majority weren't in the union, it's fair to assume that they'd tend to be more Conservative. So maybe the Conservative-leaning, non-NFU farmers were most likely to vote Leave.
That might explain a lot, given that most reasonable estimates suggest that between 57-60% of farmers voted Leave, and 75,000 of 130,000 is... 58%. Coincidence?
@@ftumschk I stand corrected 🫡
@@johnnybgood7812 No worries. Thanks for the acknowledgement :)
The people are NOT the enemy of the people.
Bravo Liz, the world is big enough to feed humankind but not the robber barons of capitalism animal greed.
Well done Liz
I’m so sorry.
Well said that woman👌👌👌
Key words for Nigel to interrupt: "when we left ...", or any reponse to Net Zero questions.
Just bloody talks over her trying to drown out anything that could be linked to him. That c-word is pathetic
Super as always Liz, keep up the fight.
The mere goal of this invitation is to shut Liz up, and to make these two liars heros again if she couldn't stand all the arguments.
Poor Liz! I hope you will have more of this kind of invitation to shut them up and expose them. Not the other way around. Don't give up Liz!
Bought a whole leg of NZ lamb foe a tenner this weekend, absolutely beautiful, english legs between £25 AND £30! who are the biggest liars here?
Really good resistance against those two.
One we know is repealing from any promises made the other one is simply just fine to import more without back thoughts or rather no thoughts at all on ramifications for everybody.
It would be good if you could get all of the major supermarket bosses on interview - they more likely won’t engage at all due to known biased reasons, but would be good to see their stance on food security in UK and sourcing fresh produce from elsewhere.
At least it would be out in the public and could be put into politicians faces.
One can only hope !
It’s bad enough in the U.K., but look at the obesity in the US and Canada. Now look at France , who but us to shame.
Very well done, Liz. How you managed to NOT punch either (but especially Rees Mogg) in the face is remarkable. Keep up the good work.
Thank you! 😊
Liz you must encourage farmers to be more active in Thier protests. How about a monthly protest with more each time. The NFU were useless.
Lucky you Liz two comedians for the price of one.
✌️😂✌️
They say the quickest way to sound like an idiot is to get into an argument with one, but Liz managed to avoid that so well done to her for that. Can you imagine if herself and Ms Purkiss were together in that debate?
I can’t tolerate listening to either of them for a second. Being in the same room as them blathering on and on must be truly awful. Well done for trying to talk sense to them.
Their getting well paid for spouting bullshit 🙄
Nice one Liz x
I admire you for being able to be so polite and measured in the company of those two - I could no way have done so. You are a great ambassador for the farming community.
You were very gracious with those two Liz. Respect👍
Farage the traitor.
Nothing but a traitor, liar and a grifter. Any opportunity he sees to boost his image & bank account he’s there like a rat up a drain pipe.
“We could manage to survive without money changers and stockbrokers. We should find it harder to do without miners, steel workers and those who cultivate the land.”
Aneurin Bevan
"Boris Johnson promised us" really !!! you believe what that man says ?
Gosh Liz, neither of them did their homework.I can´t stand the sound of their voices but did watch to see how you got on. Well done.
Two of the great debaters, ‘Garage’ Farage and Rees-
Bogg with our Liz stuck in the middle! How did you survive, Liz!
Uk is not united anymore
Two charlatans meet with a no nonsense woman! 😀😀🇧🇪
GB news Liz?..........you're slipping!!! having to try and debate with this couple of neer-do wells the nation salutes you!!!
Well done and keep up the good work. Those two fully understood what Minford said but presumably bank on the rest of us forgetting.
Well done Liz.
Two of the three people there need to be in prison and they are Fartarse and Sleazy Bog
“…it’s my favourite subject”, brilliant 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾😂😂😂
Isn't the real problem that UK farmers have lost their agricultural subsidies Post Brexit? Lost the labour force provided by EU membership as EU citizens no longer go to the UK for agricultural employment?
80 percent of the food in the UK, post Brexit, is UK EU origin.
Shouldn't UK farmers be lobbying for a new agricultural program?? I believe food exports from the EU to the UK last year were 92B pounds.
The two men from GBNEWS are responsible for telling farmers one thing and delivering something else.
Well done Liz. NF & JRM must have you back on their show.
Getting Mogg on GBB NEWS talking about farming would be hilarious if it wasn’t for it being a serious issue….I mean who wouldn’t want someone who’s never had muck under his fingernails, or sweat on his forehead , too talk about what British farmers needs are.
Great job. You were outstanding. Nigel just kept jumping in as he was trying to avoid the thrashing he and Jacob deserve.
The passion should be there for anyone that loves to eat great food.
There is very real support for the Farming community in the hearts of the British public. Unfortunately there is also something of a financial crisis going on. You started by saying we always had the best quality at the best price. That is what the public wants. Labelling must give one the opportunity of comparing option a with option b and making a buying decision. Market forces must prevail not protectionism. Nigel is VERY experienced at running campaigns and if he says your message is mixed, you should perhaps listen. Sir Jacob wants the best bang for the buck …. Give the consumer the option. We need clear labelling that shows all the relevant details and as a nation we need to protect our farmers, but not through subsidies.
Dear Liz,
you are referencing "food security" and neither Nigel F. nor Jacob R-M. seem to listen or understand.
The ONLY reason for the EU subsidies since the beginning the EU (and EC) is to assure food security. Our forefathers had the big famines, the great depression and post WWII in mind.
Today, the UK government belives that food security is irrelevant. The opposite is true.
Keep on fighting for the farmers in the United Kingdom.
Well done for tackling those two lying fraudsters
I am afraid liz you didn’t make much of a argument on farmers behalf,
May I suggest in future ,ask marina purkiss to put your case,
Purkiss got one of their guys fired (GBNews went woke). They wouldnt let her never the studio
I'm not British, I live in the EU, and it is important to acknowledge that farming is in difficulty here too.
That said, the British trade deals globally, has made your farming brand a hostage to a complete moving platform of standards, anywhere you further process food you import.
It falls on your shoulders to police your own import standards, and to be credible to your customers on your effectiveness and traceability chain in that.
How the cogent arguments made here, were not made when so many UK farmers voted for Brexit, is astonishing.
The argument were made. As with every attempt to debate the issues the brexlets closed it all down, saying it wasn't true, subsidies would be maintained, we wouldn't allow substandard products in....bla bla bla,
Same with the Irish border issue.
Same with every argument.
Please tell us what you know about EU fiscal union, EU economic union, EU political union, the unification of member states’ armed forces under command of the European Council, the reckless expansionism of the EU across Eastern Europe, and the unfettered migration into the EU from North Africa and the Middle East, at the EU’s open invitation. It shouldn’t take you long!
@@SJG-nr8uj your comment clearly shows you don't know much about it.
@@verystripeyzebra Your comment clearly shows you know nothing about anything. So once again, I shall report on the EU's own treaties, documents and declarations, just for you.
1. THE EU’s FEDERAL INTENTIONS
Lisbon Treaty Article 3.4: “The Union shall establish an ECONOMIC and monetary UNION whose currency is the euro.”
EU Five Presidents’ Report, 2015: “Progress MUST HAPPEN on four fronts: first, towards a genuine ECONOMIC UNION that ensures each economy has the structural features to prosper within the Monetary Union. Second, towards a FINANCIAL UNION that guarantees the integrity of our currency across the Monetary Union and increases risk-sharing with the private sector. This means completing the Banking Union and accelerating the Capital Markets Completing Europe’s Economic and Monetary Union. Third, towards a FISCAL UNION that delivers both fiscal sustainability and fiscal stabilisation. And finally, towards a POLITICAL UNION that provides the foundation for all of the above through genuine democratic accountability, legitimacy and institutional strengthening.”
Angela Merkel’s immediate response to the referendum result, 24th June 2016: “Today is a watershed moment for Europe, and it is a watershed moment for the EUROPEAN UNIFICATION PROCESS. There is no doubt that this is a blow to Europe, and to the EUROPEAN UNIFICATION PROCESS.”
EU Rome Declaration, 25th March 2017: “Working towards COMPLETING the ECONOMIC and monetary UNION” (with a preferred deadline for completion of 2027).
ECB’s ‘Fiscal Implications of the EU Recovery Package’ 2020. “The way that the EU has responded to the crisis also has implications for the future design and implementation of the EUROPEAN GOVERNANCE FRAMEWORK. First, while expansionary fiscal policy is necessary to sustain the recovery, going forward it will be important for the fiscal rules to effectively support the reduction of high government debt in good economic times. Second, NGEU constitutes a new and innovative element of the EUROPEAN FISCAL FRAMEWORK. It will result in the issuance of sizeable supranational debt over the coming years, and its establishment has signalled a political readiness to design a common fiscal tool when the need arises. This innovation, while a one-off, could also imply lessons for ECONOMIC and Monetary UNION, which still lacks a PERMANENT FISCAL CAPACITY AT SUPRANATIONAL LEVEL for macroeconomic stabilisation in deep crises. The review of the ECONOMIC GOVERNANCE FRAMEWORK, which was launched by the Commission in February 2020 and postponed because of the pandemic, provides a GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO INCORPORATE THESE IMPORTANT CONSIDERATIONS.” (NGEU stands for “Next Generation European Union”).
From the EU’s own website: “Once the economic and financial crisis (of 2008/9) was overcome, the EU established a process aimed at reinforcing the architecture of EMU (ECONOMIC and monetary UNION). The process is based on the Five Presidents’ Report on Completing Europe’s Economic and Monetary Union of 2015, which focused on four main issues:
• A genuine ECONOMIC UNION;
• A FINANCIAL UNION;
• A FISCAL UNION;
• A POLITICAL UNION.
These four unions are STRICTLY INTER-RELATED and would develop in parallel. The report was followed by a series of communications, proposals and measures, and the discussion is still ongoing.”
In 2022 all member states reaffirmed their commitment to economic union, as part of Lisbon Treaty Article 3.
2. THE EU’S MILITARY INTENTIONS
Lisbon Treaty Article 42.3: “Member states shall make civilian and MILITARY capabilities available to the Union for the implementation of the common security and defence policy, to contribute to the objectives DEFINED BY THE EUROPEAN COUNCIL.”
The EU’s military headquarters is the Kortenberg Building in Brussels.
The EU Global Strategy, 30th June 2016, issued exactly one week after the referendum, contains the right of the EU’s military “to act autonomously (of NATO) if and when necessary”.
It will need this, because, as you should know, Lisbon Treaty Article 42 commits member states to the defence of a member under attack. So if Ukraine is still under attack when it joins the EU, it will be the EU which is at war with Russia, not NATO. The defence of Ukraine doesn’t trigger the NATO charter.
On 19th February 2019 Federica Mogherini told an audience in Hamburg: “... all the way through the security spectrum, up to the military operations, because not so many know that the European Union has seventeen deployed missions and operations around the world. So, together, we are already a unique global security provider.” I checked this figure recently. It now stands at twenty-one.
On 23rd April 2019 the European Council issued its Military Command and Control Structures document, outlining its military command structure over member states’ land, sea and air forces. The diagram contained within reappears on the Wikipedia page for the Kortenberg Building, above.
In September 2021 Ursula Von der Leyen said this: “But what we need is the European Defence Union. In the last weeks there have been many discussions on expeditionary forces. On what type and how many we need: battlegroups or EU entry forces. This is no doubt part of the debate - and I believe it will be part of the solution. But the more fundamental issue is why this has not worked in the past. You can have the most advanced forces in the world - but if you are never prepared to use them - of what use are they?”
Last year the EU led joint military exercises in Spain. This is taken from the EU’s CSDP website: “The two-part MILEX 23 exercise commenced on 18 September and concluded on 22 October. The first part of this intense period was a 3-week planning phase by the MPCC in Brussels. In part two, this culminated in the EU’s first ever live military exercise from 16 - 22 October in Rota Naval Base, Cadiz, Spain. During Part 2, an EU Battlegroup-sized force carried out the Operational Plan developed by the MPCC in Part 1. Overall, 19 Member States contributed to MILEX 23.”
(CSDP = Common Security and Defence Policy. MPCC = Military Planning and Conduct Capability).
3. Reckless EU expansionism across Eastern Europe - widely known and reported on, including Albania (hotbed of gangsterism and corruption), Serbia and Montenegro (both traditional allies of Russia), Moldova (part of it coveted by Russia), Ukraine (currently at war with Russia), Turkey (instantly the largest, most populous and poorest country in the EU upon joining) and several others, all of which will bring nothing but a begging bowl to the EU’s table. Oh, except for Ukraine, because, as above, Lisbon Treaty Article 42 commits member states to the military aid of a member under attack. So if Ukraine is still at war upon its accession the EU will be at war with Russia.
4. Unfettered migration into Europe from North Africa and the Middle East (the free movement of people was a secret part of the Euro-Mediterranean Partnership, in effect since 2010, and signed between the EU and Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, Egypt, Jordan, Israel, the Palestine Authority, Lebanon, Syria and Turkey). “Eurocrats do not consider (migration) to be a problem, but rather as a project”: Fabrice Leggeri, former Director of the European Border and Coastguard Agency (Frontex).
All this has been going on while you’ve been asleep for the last fifteen years.
@@SJG-nr8uj no you've demonstrated an ability to cut and paste try working on your ability to understand what the texts you gave oasted actually mean.
Good debate. Well done Liz
Jacob contradicts himself. A master of sophistry.
A person like liz can save a country❤
Well done Liz!!! What jokers look like!
They wont be eating cheap food
Well done girl .. keep going
Ok but isn’t JRM right? Protectionism kills productivity
Why is bovine Nigel Fromage? Keep saying no, no, no, no?
What a rat act!
Keep speaking the truth Liz, you had those two are on the back foot, that's why they started talking over you.
If only I could be in a room with Farage and Mogg. I know I will get aquitted...
Giving that pair of grifters your time is a mistake, they don't give a shxt about farmers or fishermen or anyone else and they certainly won't own Brexit for the disaster it turned out to be.
Bit late to relive the night love and let me remind you Nigel isn’t in number ten so how can he make Brexit a reality 🤔
A much better broadcast than the original (I imagine). I didn't see enough grilling of Mogg. +1
Two idiots talking to an expert and not l listening, keep up the good work and put those charlatans in their place.
Well those two dominated that discussion Liz were you gagged from saying what you wanted to ?
Most of my working life was in food manufacture. The time of increasing power of the big supermarkets over the food chain, too much power. Add in BRexit and the indifference of this government and we are at breaking point. Organic food is better, so why is it such a small part of sales? Because the buyers are under such pressure on the purse. People will buy, knowing that it is poor, imported food because they need to buy just on price.
“Very well said, little lady” … or some other inner Reese Mogg comment
You didn't pin them down on Brexit. A wasted opportunity to show them for what they are. You are too nice!
So please tell us what you know about EU fiscal union, EU economic union, EU political union, the unification of member states’ armed forces under command of the European Council, the reckless expansionism of the EU across Eastern Europe, and the unfettered migration into the EU from North Africa and the Middle East, at the EU’s open invitation. It shouldn’t take you long!
@@SJG-nr8ujffs, can't you copy and paste something new?? 🤡
You have a lot of guts!!