I think the difference is it was them "black men" making the joke , while Andrew is a white man making the joke , it seems like they are co signing the jokes which seems racist to the black women since they are the butt of the joke
So youre fine with black men joking about how undesirable black women are, but not white men? I dont even subscribe to this stuff but If anything, its 10x worse when black men joke about it because those are people from your own community saying "hurtful" stuff. Their comments hit home and reinforce societal truths since they are much closer.
Could be a reach,but those that have humility and can accept they messed up? I mean if theyre doing it to get the heat off their back it isnt the same thing is it?@voyageFN
As a black woman, I don’t care anymore. I’ve accepted how the world sees me and I move accordingly. I’m not “ghetto” “ratchet” “abusive”, I have no kids while being in my late 20s, a good education, I’m articulate and I know I am all these things and don’t need to prove it to anyone bc I have someone in my life who sees me and as long as he sees me that’s all that matters. Though honestly for a while it hurt that no matter what I did I was topic of conversation for black men and for every other man. It felt like every race including my own looked down on me and wanted nothing to do with me. A lot of people don’t get that and oddly a lot of black men don’t get how much it hurts to hear them rip into us, that bc they were “bullied” by a black girl in school it’s no ok to bully black woman. Sorry for the tangent I genuinely hate the target on black women’s backs.
This!! As a BW, I am incredibly exhausted with us always being the butt end of the joke. It is relentless and so incredibly cruel. No other demographic is disrespected in such a way and gaslit when they call it out. The fact a whole Caucasian man felt so comfortable making such comments in front of a black and biracial man and for them to kikiki as much as they did??? I honestly have no words. We BW only have each other.
Y’all didn’t even mention the fact that Andrew actually called them out on his most recent episode because they specifically asked for certain segments to be removed from their episode before it aired but they didn’t ask to remove any of the jokes about black women.
Why do you believe him? They have so many videos up where they are complete assholes to their guests. Do you think all of them were like "that's cool that you humiliated me and made me look like a fool. Go for it"? I don't.
@@LPno.9 The fact that Andrew is an asshole is actually why I would take his word over the other two. He doesn’t have any reason to lie bc his platform isn’t the one at risk. He probably wouldn’t have even spoken on the situation if they hadn’t tried to throw him under the bus, not knowing that he actually thrives on controversy like this.
@@Gallowaves Well, of course. Taking the word of an asshole has always proven to be the best choice. Well done you! All those people chose to have their mental health questioned, fight their additions almost in tears while AS shoves substances in their face, say they are a disgrace to their race, and that the look developmentally disabled while offending their family. Because an asshole would never lie on those people. Assholes just don't do that type of thing. I hate blaming victims, but do yall ever get tired of that steel-toe in your faces?
@Gallowaves Well, of course. Taking the word of an asshole has always proven to be the best choice. Well done you! All those people chose to have their mental health questioned, fight their additions almost in tears while AS shoves substances in their face, say they are a disgrace to their race, and that the look developmentally disabled while offending their family. Because an asshole would never lie on those people. Assholes just don't do that type of thing. I hate blaming victims, but do yall ever get tired of that steel-toe in your faces?
@Gallowaves Well, of course. Taking the word of an asshole has always proven to be the best choice. Well done you! All those people chose to have their mental health questioned, fight their additions almost in tears while AS shoves substances in their face, say they are a disgrace to their race, and that the look developmentally disabled while offending their family. Because an asshole would never lie on those people. Assholes just don't do that type of thing. I hate blaming victims, but do yall ever get tired of that steel-toe in your faces?
These guys are talking about hanging out with Andrew Schultz, as if it was some sort of traumatic event. You can totally tell this apology is not genuine and that they were forced to do this.
As I’m a black women who has heard this since I was a kid, it all sounds like white noise to me now. Lol I’ve grown bored of black man’s and others hatred for me. They truly don’t like me now. 😂 I always get a ego boost knowing we are always on their minds. Black women definitely hold a lot of power over people’s mind since we are never not talked about. It’s giving you’re intimidated. We see right through it atp.🤷🏽♀️
It's hatred because they didn't find black women from Atlanta attractive aren't they from the UK anyway. I don't get the extra pain and complaints. I've been called short ( a few chicks literally said I'd be cute if I was 5 inches taller😂, too black ( looks) ECT... By other black people that live around me. Just keep it moving why does their opinion or jokes.
These clowns are so embarrassing to us UK black brits. We do not claim them. My family are from the Windrush era (Jamaican), so I am old school British Caribbean. Us Caribbean people fought hard against racism from when we got here, for these fools to send out these messages about modern black UK men. Kelso Cochrane, Stephen Lawrence, Roland Adams and others died for these Gen Z pricks to be so disprespectful of black women. I'm quite sure Doreen Lawrence would not be impressed by these uncle Toms. They need cancelling now!
This the point I wish females would catch on 2. Shyt I had a black male neighbor who was talking to me asking me what I do. I said I work in the medical field… this man said “oh you a little CNA” 🤣🤣🤣… then he proceeded to say he making 25 an hour working at some factory. I was like oh that’s what’s up… Then he brags about his rent being high and he brought up how he be seeing different females at my house…and blah blah blah I was laughing so hard man like this man must feel some type of way about me--and all I could think to myself is…damn being a stud must got this man pressed. Anyway--I never told him my occupation…he ended up finding out one night seeing me leave for work and said “OH MAYNE…you a whole nurse nurse out here” …. I said nawl--I’m a whole NURSE PRACTITIONER out here… lol the look that ninja gave…it made my P wet 🤣🤣🤣… point of the story babes…a hater gone be a mf hater…just bath in that shyt…I do!
I laugh very hard when I hear something offensive. I also almost laughed at funeral when I am NOT at all happy! It is so annoying! I laugh when I am afraid of people too 😭 Maybe I should be hired as laughing box
Strong disagree. I will say its a matter of the focus of the podcast, and who is speaking. Podcasts are and continue be to a great way to spread ideas and gain insight into things you otherwise may not know or be exposed to.
Completely wrong. Social media has been spiraling downwards regardless of podcasts. Y’all say this about anything but the truth is that social media is a cesspool for people who have become so negative and antisocial in their lives to complain and attack other people online.
@@Do27gg guilty for making Andrews 'joke" worse. If they had checked Andrew right away like the Indian guy does when Andrew goes after Indian people, it would have made the joke better but their spineless response made Andrew look like a jerk who is just punching down, then its not funny but if they went back and forth with Andrew with their own jokes on whatever identity Andrew is, now that would be funny despite the jokes being racist. But when these spineless two BM let it slide (regardless of whether they hate BW or not, not defending a BW against a WM making this joke makes them look bad and weak.) Let's not pretend that when compared to men of other races(especially WM), being spineless has been held against BM & until BM like these stand up to men of other races they will always be seen as weak by other races of men & they will never get that proximity to whiteness they yearn for so much. Men (of whatever race) do not respect spineless men. We do that in all other aspects of our lives, we can joke about our own stuff but if we let someone else disrepect us like that, we check them.
It was definitely a setup. Andrew responded to their apology & threw them further under the bus. He is the worst & they gave him all the ammunition. Guess James & Fuhad are no longer keekeeing along.
He obviously has something against black women, but to be honest, the way he tries to point fingers at Andrew Schultz is slimy and him showing that he has poor character and no honor.
everyone seems to have something against blck women it’s so bizarre, we get treated as if WE were the ones who c0l0nised, m@ss@cred, ensl@ved & put ppl in chains. 🤔
I'm a black woman that can definitely take a joke but it HAS to be funny, thus that line is very thin. That's why lazy comedians can't survive these days. The joke wasn't even mid _and_ black men laughed, so it landed with a thud 😬
Andrew is a very lazy unfunny comedian. But he is an excellent instigator who can dominate a room (I dare say suffocate) and bring people’s true nature out. That is perfect for views and controversy. We actually don’t have that many truly talented, witty and funny people in stand up comedy right now. Most are cheap, edgy and unmemorable. It’s really sucks.
There was nothing to apologize for. I'm glad people are perceiving it as just a PR stunt. Apologizing to bw who have committed their lives to loving wm because you laughed at a joke a wm told about tho very bw who have committed their lives to wm is PEAK spinelessness.
I don’t even blame them for apologizing but fr them acting like they weren’t laughing and making the same jokes is wild and also just disingenuous like if I was one of their fans who got offended and wanted an apology I wouldn’t be accepting that shit bc they just pawned off the blame to someone else
I watched some of the podcast and saw the comments and it seemed sometimes that they were embarrassed or uncomfortable laughing. I think Shultz did nothing wrong, but I don't think these guys are being completely disingenuous.
In this situation, you NEVER EVER apologise. Possibly one of the cringe apologies ive ever seen But at least the army of pathetic black women who dont understand jokes will calm down (a bit). As preach says - the podcast is FLAGRANT, flagrant things will happen
Spot on man, they just completely threw Andrew under the bus with that 'fight or flight' bs when clearly they were in fact laughing along with the joke. If they really did want to apologise, all they needed to say was: "we've taken some time to reflect, we understand why people are upset, we acknowledge our mistake, we'll make sure it doesn't happen again". Simple.
Sitting down to a podcast you were invited to and consensually joined to talk and make jokes is the equivalent to running into a tiger in the wild in 2024, apparently.
The angry black woman stereotype is so lame. There are loud, abrasive, bullying women of every ethnicity. If they didn't agree, a witty comeback would have come easy.
There are people of every race and ethnicity that debunk stereotypes 😂that’s kinda how it works, why are you acting like it’s true. I know a lot of black woman who fit the stereotype and I know plenty who don’t. I know plenty of Asians who are stupid, who cares.
@@naydd9459naw it’s still a joke. They literally make jokes about everyone. He said all asians eat dogs the other day. I didn’t get offended but I also know that these are comedians which a lot of people seem to have a difficult time comprehending
You know I started listening to you guys about 2 years ago. And it was a few years after my kids fathers died. I missed his energy. You guys have his sense of humor and have similar takes on most topics. I want to tell yall appreciate yall representation on what it is to be young and black in this solid and we rounded. I dont know. Thank yall.
The issue is that when Andrew made jokes about Nigerians Fuad and James defended Nigerians and tampered down the joking about Nigerians signaling to Andrew that there was a line. But when the jokes targeted black women they laughed with their whole chest in total agreement. So they cared more about defending their Nigerian culture than about defending their black sisters, mothers and aunts.
@Anedoje Dude black is a western term for people of african descent. What BS are you talking. Nigerians arent black??? You sound foolish. And most black people in the new world...the descendants of slaves...are a large part Nigerian. So this line you are drawing is imaginary
Is what you mean is you cant take a joke or comedy because your a snowflake, comedy is free speech it isnt meant to be taken personally you need to get a grip.
Where was the joke? Jokes are supposed to have an actual punchline. Calling a group of people abusive or dangerous it’s just a stereotype that has been spread for hundreds of years.
@@thezu9250 The "punchline" is the sarcastic twist on the expectation. The listener expects the speaker to give praise for the good haircut but instead the person just gets roasted. The more outrageous and exaggerated the twist, the higher the contrast with what was expected, the higher the surprise factor which results in finding humour in the absurdity It's pretty standard sarcasm. First rule of finding jokes funny is to not take everything literally. Seems like people are already having trouble at this first (and only) hurdle But as the ancient saying goes. Explaining a joke is like dissecting a frog - you understand it better but it dies in the process 🙄
I'm not sure you know what comedy is... but that's about half of the craft. If you can't laugh at yourself even about shit that is so blatantly untrue not even 1/4th the population believes it then you might just be a miserable fuck. You think I take offense it when someone makes a joke about colonizers? If the joke doesn't pertain to you why are you getting huffey in the first place?
Exactly but what's new? Bitter people are going to do bitter people things. Behind each male who disparages black women is a boy who was hurt by one lol.
@@behappy5869 yeah but when you're on that field, you gotta thread lightly, because you're either hilarious, or you're racist / xenophobe / sexist "putting people down" as a joke aint the way to go. do a parallel on yourself, maybe you'll get more laughs, mix it with self depracating humour, not JUST dunking on someone
You’re in a difficult position when half the people are going to think your apology isn’t good enough and the other half will think you are weak for even apologising in the first place 😂
They had many options. Not address it, double down that it's fine, give a quick address of the situation. They chose the worst option and went full The View fake af apology they were already cringe but now no one will ever take them seriously. Quick fame fades fast. Schulz has a dedicated audience he doesnt gaf
I wish they just ignored this and moved on cus besides the "apology", I feel like this is a nothing burger. Just the internet looking for something else to be noisy about.
canceling is a gross over exaggeration of what happened. their audience is predominately black women who have now lost interest once all this came about, unsurprisingly. and that’s expected and fair because why would their audience owe them loyalty if they’re this comfortable disparaging them? it’s just cause and effect. you can’t insult your audience and then expect them to stay, that’s basic business 101. if anything they “cancelled” themselves
I not mad cause I had already assumed that they didn't date black women base on how they talk . Didn't seem like they stand for nothing but shits and giggles .
judging them on how they talk is not stereotyping? it's ok to draw conclusions on men you don't know, but you want them to not have prejudices against bw right?
And the fact that they had OTHER parts cut out of the episode before it was finalized but felt like this was okay to leave that part in. That’s why I don’t accept the apology lol
Woah, fresh and fit are shocking individuals. These pair are not even near that level of misogyny. They are a pair of idiots , especially James, but not nasty and egotistical wankers.
didnt shulz and flagrant go in on fresh and fit for making jokes about black women. I could argue shulz's jokes were more over than line than myrons jokes
I’m just shocked that their black female followers are surprised by this … A majority of the time when black men have a pod cast , it’s always the same subjects … Black woman bashing , and “Dating advise “.. it’s very few that actually have more to talk about .. Aba and Preach , you guys better not go down that hole !! 😂
@@bobbob-vw4cc This comment is more for someone who gives a damn .. I’m not really one that ever cared about what they thought about me because they are not my main focus … 🤷🏽♀️
@@tylersmith3139 I don’t care to learn the names of the other clowns that I see that pop up on my feed on a daily basis … There’s tons of them !! And the subject matter is literally ALL the same .
Yep. It's coz half the people mad actually never even watched their content 😂 so it was silly for them to apologize coz now they open a can of worms for everybody to rag on them and that's what the internet did.
@@TheOnlyTaps that’s exactly that!! I follow them too but only watch the shorts. I think the reason why people didn’t get mad before is because most of the time, they make fun of themselves but even then they say some weirdest ish 😂😂
@@Marie-23 Yeah like it's funny coz the clips people were getting mad at are old from the summer but hadn't gained any traction till recently. So everyone was fine with it this whole time until the Flagrant thing blew up coz obviously the Flagrant clips go far and wide 😂 all they had to do was double down and keep it pushing. Coz whether you agree or disagree with their jokes we all have the right to make jokes and so if they land they land and if they miss you hold the L and try again. So I always find it funny when people retroactively get mad. Coz I'm not condoning their jokes or agreeing with them but lawd have mercy the internet gotta learn to be mad when something happens rather than jumping on things for the sake of it. It's like if people started digging into old jokes that Aba and Preach have made years ago then getting mad now like bruh you were okay with it four years ago why didn't you say something.
What trick bag. You ever seen black girl effect? White guy gets taken from a standard Nissan maxima to Donk ride. Man don't even look like a white guy anymore. Black woman basically Xzibit if There was a show call "PIMP MY WHITE BOY"
Can’t blame them for being offended, they always have to deal with the being undesirable stereotype and all these negative comments. Then you have 2 black men laughing and validating these other guys, that are clowning our women. It’s like they’re always the bud of a “joke”
I think the thing that bothers black women is being constant punching bags, but to a point where it becomes dehumanizing. The Big Momma/Rasputia/Madea jokes are so tired. Especially when it's from someone we SUPPORT. No one cares for Andrew because his main audience is not black women. The other 2, it's a different story. Saying something is "tame," when you're not at the receiving end is too easy. Sometime, shit is just not funny. Its not about "being a snowflake," it's just not funny.
@@xzodiayinzero5929considering black women are statistically six times more likely to be murdered than white women, and caught up in domestic abuse, they are quite literally punching bags tbh make the same joke about how many cops beat their wives and watch the 'real' snowflakes lose their minds 😂 i have never seen someone throw a bigger tantrum than a right winger realizing they're the butt of a joke. lol
Yep 💯😂, like bruh it's just jokes. Nobody ever looked at their content for some sort of insightful or thought provoking content it was just there for the laughs. When people start getting mad about jokes and they fold now they open up a whole can of worms for everybody to get offended. Some jokes land some don't, as a creator unless you are actively harming someone you just chalk up the jokes that missed and keep it pushing.
Exactly. It also sets a bad precedent cause when you apologize once, they'll expect it every time. Which would be fine if the goalposts weren't always moving
I'm West-Indian American and my Chinese hubby disagrees with the visceral hate towards black women...only the ignorant make and believe in stereotypes...Keep stereotyping black women and we will keep moving towards who loves us ❤
@@JM-gm5eiyou’re clearly uneducated. You don’t know this woman personally. She can’t be held accountable for something she has not done. So what do you mean she doesn’t like being held accountable? You know nothing of her life or decisions she’s made. She could be the complete opposite of a stereotype. But you’re right stereotypes exist for a reason. There’s stereotypes about black men being violent criminals for a reason. There’s stereotypes about white men being perverted pedophiles for a reason. There’s stereotypes about white women falsely accusing men of rape for a reason…
@@JM-gm5eithose anti black stereotypes were first created during slavery as a way to make white people scared of black people and not want to free them. Stop making shit up
They shoulda just kept it pushing and avoided this whole “controversy”. They made some jokes, caught some flak and paid attention to the wrong crowd, then gave a phony apology that comes very transparently inauthentic.
@@sakuraesther6309 yuh, if it’s killing their expansion, they should just rebrand. You only really need to captivate like 30% of your given viewership and make it through
@@sakuraesther6309 doubt it's 70% of their audience that is gonna stop watching because of that joke. I'd argue they'll loose more viewers because of the fake apology than from being on flagrant
I like how when Preach went off on the whole "if it were me" bit Aba clarified the context and Preach simply said, "Thank you." and Aba's like yeah all good let's get back into it. That's how simple it can be. Wholesome and mature moment. Lot of people could learn from it, myself included.
I’m so tired of seeing some men make jokes about black women being undesirable. Stop grouping all black women together in the same category based off of your experience with other black women. Not me personally, but I can see why some black women are discouraged in the dating market. Imagine hearing this in person and then on social media every other day.
Stop taking what some people say and letting it run your mind. You will never be happy if you let that happen do just ignore the haters and appreciate the ones that fuck with you. There are "beautiful" women in every race and "ugly" ones too and still both get picked yes the beautiful ones get desired more but more times than not its the "ugly" ones that end up married.
Stop taking jokes to heart. Men and women alike make jokes about black dads being absent/leaving for the milk but nobody is seriously thinking every black dad is like that when they make these jokes. The whole point is that it's absurd.
@agoodneighbour growing up I hear all the absent dad jokes/stereotypes and they don't affect me cause I'm an individual as long as I don't be absent i got nothing to be mad at. The women complaining low-key must identify with the stereotypes and be getting pressed.
@@xstonedsoberx Or maybe some women just like to stick up for other women. Just because it’s a joke doesn’t make it right. If your daughter came to you saying she didn’t feel good about herself because of how people perceived her, it would be different. Am I personally offended, no. But wrong is wrong. Joking or not.
Schulz came out with a reaction video, where he said James and Fuhad had agreed on the final cut (after having some jokes cut) they were fine with the black gf jokes staying in 👀
Ain’t nothing worse than two men groveling for forgiveness over something they don’t believe. I have more respect for a channel that stands on what they say, lose half their audience, and apologize to absolutely no one. That’s the kind of integrity that retains your true core audience over the ones you cape for that won’t be there in four weeks anyway.
More chances they lose just some sensitive ones and get to continue without always walking on egg shells because the victims of the left and right need to find a reason to make themselves feel less of a loser.
Yeah but that happens when people are uncomfortable aswell, and I don’t watch them enough to know if they normally do that. It might be part of their baseline which has to do with reading body language, that it is their normal behaviour vs they normally are looking at the camera in other videos.
It's funny how the non-melanted think that they can say anything and call it a joke. Imagine if I made jokes about being inbred, incestuous, hygienically challenged, mutants?
The part about going on a podcast but not knowing anything about it is spot on. Shxtsngigs went on Rick glassmans’s podcast and it was such an uncomfortable episode where, again they had no idea what kind of tone/vibe of podcast they were part of. Almost like they were just turning up to these with 0 prep
*NOPE! NOT the case here!! James has admitted SEVERAL times before then that he is an HUGE Andrew Schultz fan and LOVES the Flagerant Podcast and how it's one of the Only podcasts he listens to regularly!!*
probably because it's impossible to pretend the world isn't totally fucked rn and no amount of laughing it off is going to make the issues go away until they are actually addressed and taken seriously
@0x4e6f31 Daniel Ceasar was defending a råcist ⚪️ woman. Who constantly does råcist things. When she was getting called on it. He came to her defense. He told black people specifically not to buy his music or support him. Which black people did. And it made his albums after flopped. Funny enough the person he defended. Never backed him up and promoted his music on her platforms lol.
@@123tamz The only he knows how to do his make loud sounds and tell racist jokes, he doesn t have anything else. You remove those 2 things from his head, I guarantee you, no neurons are left
What shocks me is people thinking they’re the arbiters of funny. You not finding something funny is not the same as it not being funny. You’re not the main character.
@@123tamzComedy is subjective until it’s your favorite innit. His 2019 Netflix special was a flop, Other comedians don’t find him funny, literally just watch the Shane Gillis episode and you can watch your mans get clapped live.
Realistically, Andrew did not like the fact that there is a trend going viral called the "black wife/girlfriend effect". He was in his feelings and wanted to shut it down!
Andrew also said, I think in their following podcast, that appearantly SnG and their manager/management decided which clips needed to be deleted from their show. According to Schuld they cut out some stuff on their request, but THAT segment wasn't requested to be removed. Obviously idk if what Shulz said is true, but if it is, then SnGs fight or flight response is impressively slow
Black women have been severely disrespected for too long. And although one can argue that we play a role in our own demise, black men definitely are a large part of the reason as well. There aren’t enough black men stepping up to defend the honor of the black women. This is why other races feel no shame coming for us on a public level.
It honestly can’t be though. Black women are not a monolith. They just get the worst end of the stick in terms of adjectives. An abusive Latina is called “spicy,” but a black woman who stands up for herself verbally is called “aggressive.” Same reason Sabrina Carpenter can make a song completely about sex, but only the MegantheStallion’s are associated with vulgarity.
You can’t allow yourself to get bogged down into the politics of respectability. If every black woman acted just like every other woman, guess what ? They’d still be treated the same. Why ? Purely because all human behaviors overlap. Some women are vulgar, some are abusive, some are toxic. Those things are not exclusive to black women. You set yourself up taking on the words of racists as fact.
@@uncletea5632we are way past adjectives. Black women in general are seen in the lowest regard compared to our counter parts. Black men do not make it any better
Andrew is a super edgy comedian, he does it with all races. I personally been with a few black women and the stereotypes don't add up, even for the ones who come from the ghetto.
Exactly. They should have just left it alone. It happened move on, it’s up to whoever if they no longer feel interested in watching their podcast. Next.
I don’t think anything is wrong with jokes on stereotypes, culture, sex, race, etc. The joke just has to be good, or it’ll come off negatively to most. In this case the joke wasn’t funny so it landed bad.
You can't know if a joke is bad without telling it. People simply dont understand comedy and want a special pass to not be the butt of a joke. Black women routinely make jokes about white men.
Unfortunately Andrew isn't one to handle being told his jokes are low hanging fruit one could easily hear in a frat house. they get really butt heart over in that podcast when anyone says they're jokes aren't funny. and start throwing around a lot off buzz words like triggered, soft, cancel culture , edgy etc. never once does it occur to him that some times the simplest answer is the truth. It wasn't funny.
@@autumn551 Andrew laughed at what happened. He couldn't give a shit whether you find him funny or not. Comedy is subjective and a comedian obviously knows that.The reality is you never even took it as a joke. Theres nothing here for you to find funny because you took it literally.
We live in a very soft and racist society where people are overly sensitive to one race, while said same race being subsequently insanely racist towards another…. 🤷♂️
@@TheFaro2011 Tbf they are pretty lame which became clear on the podcast. I think Andrew realized pretty quick that they are just innocent young dudes who got famous really fast, but aren't actual comedians. They pander to their audience and try to keep things "pg13" while simultaneously saying adult topics. It's no shade against them they seem like nice friendly dudes but idk how so many people get famous these days from social media
I am a black woman. I have a twin. I’m very happy that I’ve taught him what black women go through and he’s come to appreciate women of all stripes & races especially black women.
I think the difference is it was them "black men" making the joke , while Andrew is a white man making the joke , it seems like they are co signing the jokes which seems racist to the black women since they are the butt of the joke
So youre fine with black men joking about how undesirable black women are, but not white men? I dont even subscribe to this stuff but If anything, its 10x worse when black men joke about it because those are people from your own community saying "hurtful" stuff. Their comments hit home and reinforce societal truths since they are much closer.
You’d totally be one to laugh when Patrice ONeal was roasting white women
Brother, Humor is subjective. If you don't like it, just move on. Cancelling someone over a joke is a wild concept to me. Touch grass
it was true black women are the worst
I love the pin of shame. The comment is usually exceptionally stupid and ignorant and never disappoints
They looked way more uncomfortable apologizing than laughing.
LOL My thoughts exactly.
That and nothing else. 💯
Ofc! Who looks more comfortable apologizing than when they’re laughing?
@@voyageFNWhy didn't they laugh when they apologized?😂
Could be a reach,but those that have humility and can accept they messed up? I mean if theyre doing it to get the heat off their back it isnt the same thing is it?@voyageFN
It's all shits n giggles till someone giggles n shits
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It's all who lives under a pineapple under the sea til Mr krabs sells you for 62 cents 💔😢🍍
@@Diamondr11Blue You mean he could've gotten more? 🤔
Preach’s old quote about comedy is spot on. “Comedy is like a drunk uncle; it’s funny until it touches *you*.”
I thought the jokes were hilarious
@@thedropshotmaster8759you would
If you can’t laugh at the joke, generally must mean it is true
Damn 🫢🤭😁😆😂 that's dark funny and true
Yp
As a black woman, I don’t care anymore. I’ve accepted how the world sees me and I move accordingly. I’m not “ghetto” “ratchet” “abusive”, I have no kids while being in my late 20s, a good education, I’m articulate and I know I am all these things and don’t need to prove it to anyone bc I have someone in my life who sees me and as long as he sees me that’s all that matters. Though honestly for a while it hurt that no matter what I did I was topic of conversation for black men and for every other man. It felt like every race including my own looked down on me and wanted nothing to do with me. A lot of people don’t get that and oddly a lot of black men don’t get how much it hurts to hear them rip into us, that bc they were “bullied” by a black girl in school it’s no ok to bully black woman.
Sorry for the tangent I genuinely hate the target on black women’s backs.
This!! As a BW, I am incredibly exhausted with us always being the butt end of the joke. It is relentless and so incredibly cruel. No other demographic is disrespected in such a way and gaslit when they call it out.
The fact a whole Caucasian man felt so comfortable making such comments in front of a black and biracial man and for them to kikiki as much as they did??? I honestly have no words. We BW only have each other.
I feel you sis
Fr! 💆🏽♀️
@@zoe._.1850”us black women only have each other” - yung ma probably
@@jackderawayprobably? How weak are you?
Y’all didn’t even mention the fact that Andrew actually called them out on his most recent episode because they specifically asked for certain segments to be removed from their episode before it aired but they didn’t ask to remove any of the jokes about black women.
Why do you believe him? They have so many videos up where they are complete assholes to their guests. Do you think all of them were like "that's cool that you humiliated me and made me look like a fool. Go for it"? I don't.
@@LPno.9 The fact that Andrew is an asshole is actually why I would take his word over the other two. He doesn’t have any reason to lie bc his platform isn’t the one at risk. He probably wouldn’t have even spoken on the situation if they hadn’t tried to throw him under the bus, not knowing that he actually thrives on controversy like this.
@@Gallowaves Well, of course. Taking the word of an asshole has always proven to be the best choice. Well done you! All those people chose to have their mental health questioned, fight their additions almost in tears while AS shoves substances in their face, say they are a disgrace to their race, and that the look developmentally disabled while offending their family. Because an asshole would never lie on those people. Assholes just don't do that type of thing.
I hate blaming victims, but do yall ever get tired of that steel-toe in your faces?
@Gallowaves Well, of course. Taking the word of an asshole has always proven to be the best choice. Well done you! All those people chose to have their mental health questioned, fight their additions almost in tears while AS shoves substances in their face, say they are a disgrace to their race, and that the look developmentally disabled while offending their family. Because an asshole would never lie on those people. Assholes just don't do that type of thing.
I hate blaming victims, but do yall ever get tired of that steel-toe in your faces?
@Gallowaves Well, of course. Taking the word of an asshole has always proven to be the best choice. Well done you! All those people chose to have their mental health questioned, fight their additions almost in tears while AS shoves substances in their face, say they are a disgrace to their race, and that the look developmentally disabled while offending their family. Because an asshole would never lie on those people. Assholes just don't do that type of thing.
I hate blaming victims, but do yall ever get tired of that steel-toe in your faces?
These guys are talking about hanging out with Andrew Schultz, as if it was some sort of traumatic event. You can totally tell this apology is not genuine and that they were forced to do this.
Agreed
Correction: them hanging out with Andrew Schulz was traumatic for their audience. So they’re apologizing to their audience for leading them there.
Hanging out with Andrew does sound pretty traumatic 😂
Lauder for people at the back!!!
Bend the knee to the snowflake crowd crying in the comments.
Black women are their main audience, this was a BIG mistake!
Plus: James only has eyes for Fuhad.
I listen to them, so disappointed.
Exactly! They're doing the same as Matt Rife, who's main audience is women and makes misogynistic jokes. Disappointed
@@Subika13 cry about it... he shed u idiots and still killing it at arenas 😂😂
@@Subika13 They should've known that women can't take a joke
Seems like black women make all the wrong ppl rich
As I’m a black women who has heard this since I was a kid, it all sounds like white noise to me now. Lol I’ve grown bored of black man’s and others hatred for me. They truly don’t like me now. 😂
I always get a ego boost knowing we are always on their minds. Black women definitely hold a lot of power over people’s mind since we are never not talked about. It’s giving you’re intimidated. We see right through it atp.🤷🏽♀️
@@zenileJ Exactly! 💯
It's hatred because they didn't find black women from Atlanta attractive aren't they from the UK anyway. I don't get the extra pain and complaints. I've been called short ( a few chicks literally said I'd be cute if I was 5 inches taller😂, too black ( looks) ECT... By other black people that live around me. Just keep it moving why does their opinion or jokes.
I love this comment❤❤❤ in the immortal words of Kandi burruss Tucker as far as black women are concerned we're embedded in your mother f****** brain
These clowns are so embarrassing to us UK black brits. We do not claim them. My family are from the Windrush era (Jamaican), so I am old school British Caribbean. Us Caribbean people fought hard against racism from when we got here, for these fools to send out these messages about modern black UK men. Kelso Cochrane, Stephen Lawrence, Roland Adams and others died for these Gen Z pricks to be so disprespectful of black women. I'm quite sure Doreen Lawrence would not be impressed by these uncle Toms. They need cancelling now!
This the point I wish females would catch on 2.
Shyt I had a black male neighbor who was talking to me asking me what I do. I said I work in the medical field… this man said “oh you a little CNA” 🤣🤣🤣… then he proceeded to say he making 25 an hour working at some factory. I was like oh that’s what’s up… Then he brags about his rent being high and he brought up how he be seeing different females at my house…and blah blah blah
I was laughing so hard man like this man must feel some type of way about me--and all I could think to myself is…damn being a stud must got this man pressed. Anyway--I never told him my occupation…he ended up finding out one night seeing me leave for work and said “OH MAYNE…you a whole nurse nurse out here” …. I said nawl--I’m a whole NURSE PRACTITIONER out here… lol the look that ninja gave…it made my P wet 🤣🤣🤣… point of the story babes…a hater gone be a mf hater…just bath in that shyt…I do!
Never saw someone laugh that hard while allegedly being in "shock" and in "fight or flight"
I laugh very hard when I hear something offensive. I also almost laughed at funeral when I am NOT at all happy! It is so annoying! I laugh when I am afraid of people too 😭
Maybe I should be hired as laughing box
@@qine6559 or get profesional help.
Dont sneak this in like thats normal
@@qine6559 you should work at live recordings of modern sitcoms
Bro fight or flights a real thing 😂
@@qine6559 This!!! As someone who laughs in uncomfortable situations, I understand you completely.
The funny thing is they asked Schulz's team to take out certain things from the final cut but did not ask the black women jokes to be taken out
Wow. That says a lot
Goodness me
he’s right. Blacks are obnoxious and constantly complain nothing wrong about staying facts.
@@pablojescobar3400crazy a whole minority named Pablo is racist towards black women where the envy coming from?
@@pablojescobar3400 It's hilarious because it's true and truth hurts
Those women said, "thank God we're not from here..." but had they NOT mentioned that, they'd fall right into the category he was talking about lol
African and UK blacks consider themselves different from black American women. That's why they're perfectly fine with what was said.
@@silverquisI don’t think this makes sense.
The interviewers are Texpats that are currently living in Atlanta.
@@silverquisthey are kinda different but nowadays they becoming more similar ngl regardless them texas tings were fine asf
@@silverquisare those women African or from the UK?
@@silverquis they also tend to not act like black american women. which is why most people don't have as negative of a view of them.
This goes back to the reality that podcasts has helped humanity spiraled backwards, downwards and rarely forward.
Strong disagree. I will say its a matter of the focus of the podcast, and who is speaking. Podcasts are and continue be to a great way to spread ideas and gain insight into things you otherwise may not know or be exposed to.
If you watch junk podcasts, you're gonna get junk.
There's plenty of positive podcasts for self improvement.
Completely wrong. Social media has been spiraling downwards regardless of podcasts. Y’all say this about anything but the truth is that social media is a cesspool for people who have become so negative and antisocial in their lives to complain and attack other people online.
They did that apology like a hostage ransom video. 😂
😂😂rightt? And they werent even Looking at the camera , screams guilltttt!
@@teeshhh2951guilt for laughing at a joke..?
@@Do27gg guilt for hurting their audience's feelings which will cost them money
@@Do27gg guilty for making Andrews 'joke" worse. If they had checked Andrew right away like the Indian guy does when Andrew goes after Indian people, it would have made the joke better but their spineless response made Andrew look like a jerk who is just punching down, then its not funny but if they went back and forth with Andrew with their own jokes on whatever identity Andrew is, now that would be funny despite the jokes being racist.
But when these spineless two BM let it slide (regardless of whether they hate BW or not, not defending a BW against a WM making this joke makes them look bad and weak.) Let's not pretend that when compared to men of other races(especially WM), being spineless has been held against BM & until BM like these stand up to men of other races they will always be seen as weak by other races of men & they will never get that proximity to whiteness they yearn for so much. Men (of whatever race) do not respect spineless men.
We do that in all other aspects of our lives, we can joke about our own stuff but if we let someone else disrepect us like that, we check them.
They kinda were
I’m almost positive that Andrew knew their podcast content and that’s why he kept talking about black women.
It was definitely a setup. Andrew responded to their apology & threw them further under the bus. He is the worst & they gave him all the ammunition. Guess James & Fuhad are no longer keekeeing along.
Yup
He violated them 😆
100% 😂
@@mollygrace3068 yup and he knew that if they didn’t agree with him, he was gonna bring up stuff about their Podcast.
He obviously has something against black women, but to be honest, the way he tries to point fingers at Andrew Schultz is slimy and him showing that he has poor character and no honor.
Yep!! They really do.
Good observation. Fuad too. I never watch them all that forced giggling give me the cringe
everyone seems to have something against blck women it’s so bizarre, we get treated as if WE were the ones who c0l0nised, m@ss@cred, ensl@ved & put ppl in chains. 🤔
That’s what happens when you have no personality and character and most importantly no Balls
@@emmanuele7441lmfaooo
Those jokes werent even funny, definitely not enough for them to laugh that hard.
You tend to laugh harder at things when your in a really good mood.
I'm a black woman that can definitely take a joke but it HAS to be funny, thus that line is very thin. That's why lazy comedians can't survive these days.
The joke wasn't even mid _and_ black men laughed, so it landed with a thud 😬
Andrew is a very lazy unfunny comedian. But he is an excellent instigator who can dominate a room (I dare say suffocate) and bring people’s true nature out. That is perfect for views and controversy. We actually don’t have that many truly talented, witty and funny people in stand up comedy right now. Most are cheap, edgy and unmemorable. It’s really sucks.
The reason why even though the joke is "mild", its their "downfall" because they are laughing at the expense of their main audience.
Well maybe that's the first mistake they made
why do people think laughing at a joke is mocking the people that the joke is about?
@@afrosamourai400it's not? They should have known black women pay their bills. Flagrant audience is men.
@@afrosamourai400Idk, maybe bc some people will take it like you're cosigning the joke or agreeing with it?
@@randomcharacter6501 how? racial jokes are part of humor, it's not that deep, it's not about agreeing or not it's just jokes, people make no sense.
Lol James spoke about fight or flight when he did neither 😂😂😂
Fight Or Fight Or Giggle hysterically
Fight, Flight or Freeze.
@@nicolette100 I think it was more Fawn with all that giggling
laughing is a very common anxiety response - as a WOMAN you should know
@@tima7814 I know how anxious laughter looks like. There was no anxiety there
Not one time they said black women in that apology. They said "to you" , "community", everything except to the actual people you're apologizing to.
I noticed this too 😬
That's because their community is mostly black women. And they know that.
They don’t care about Melanated Women especially from America
There was nothing to apologize for.
I'm glad people are perceiving it as just a PR stunt.
Apologizing to bw who have committed their lives to loving wm because you laughed at a joke a wm told about tho very bw who have committed their lives to wm is PEAK spinelessness.
Never head of them before today . Another pair to stay away from. NO AUDIENCE NO SHOW✌🏽
‘Fresh N Shxts’ sums up this video perfectly!!!! 😭💯😭💯
I don’t even blame them for apologizing but fr them acting like they weren’t laughing and making the same jokes is wild and also just disingenuous like if I was one of their fans who got offended and wanted an apology I wouldn’t be accepting that shit bc they just pawned off the blame to someone else
I watched some of the podcast and saw the comments and it seemed sometimes that they were embarrassed or uncomfortable laughing. I think Shultz did nothing wrong, but I don't think these guys are being completely disingenuous.
In this situation, you NEVER EVER apologise. Possibly one of the cringe apologies ive ever seen
But at least the army of pathetic black women who dont understand jokes will calm down (a bit).
As preach says - the podcast is FLAGRANT, flagrant things will happen
Spot on man, they just completely threw Andrew under the bus with that 'fight or flight' bs when clearly they were in fact laughing along with the joke.
If they really did want to apologise, all they needed to say was: "we've taken some time to reflect, we understand why people are upset, we acknowledge our mistake, we'll make sure it doesn't happen again".
Simple.
Honestly, the apology was worse than the Flagrant episode.
"Fight or flight"? Ma'am, if you don't sit your weak azz down...BRUVS 😂😂😂
That's what I thought when I heard it. They're scared of Andrew Schulz? Not all men from the UK are like these two. We don't claim them
@@TheSamanthaEdit blokes 🤣
@@DigimonOmobasuyi weak ass blokes
Sums it up perfectly... We all know that the USA has already proven it...
Sitting down to a podcast you were invited to and consensually joined to talk and make jokes is the equivalent to running into a tiger in the wild in 2024, apparently.
The angry black woman stereotype is so lame. There are loud, abrasive, bullying women of every ethnicity. If they didn't agree, a witty comeback would have come easy.
Yeah bur we joking on the black ones right now the others get their smoke as well if u know andrew so what's the big deal
it's a joke...Chill
There are people of every race and ethnicity that debunk stereotypes 😂that’s kinda how it works, why are you acting like it’s true. I know a lot of black woman who fit the stereotype and I know plenty who don’t. I know plenty of Asians who are stupid, who cares.
@@afrosamourai400 It’s just a joke until you’re the butt of it. 🤦♀️
@@naydd9459naw it’s still a joke. They literally make jokes about everyone. He said all asians eat dogs the other day. I didn’t get offended but I also know that these are comedians which a lot of people seem to have a difficult time comprehending
You know I started listening to you guys about 2 years ago. And it was a few years after my kids fathers died. I missed his energy. You guys have his sense of humor and have similar takes on most topics. I want to tell yall appreciate yall representation on what it is to be young and black in this solid and we rounded. I dont know. Thank yall.
The issue is that when Andrew made jokes about Nigerians Fuad and James defended Nigerians and tampered down the joking about Nigerians signaling to Andrew that there was a line. But when the jokes targeted black women they laughed with their whole chest in total agreement. So they cared more about defending their Nigerian culture than about defending their black sisters, mothers and aunts.
Right, bc dear you speak 🗣️ on Jews women🫢
Probably because being black is something forced on us as Nigerians, it’s just a label to us it’s not all that important, it’s an exogenous label
There was nothing to defend. It was a joke. Andrew talks about all races. Watch or move on
@Anedoje Dude black is a western term for people of african descent. What BS are you talking. Nigerians arent black??? You sound foolish. And most black people in the new world...the descendants of slaves...are a large part Nigerian. So this line you are drawing is imaginary
@@theinvisiblewoman5709 why are paralleling them coming to defense of Nigeria to defense of Black Women ? How do YOU view Nigeria n Nigerians ?
“You would’ve done noooooneeeee of those things my boyyyyy” -Preach 🤣😭😂
The fact that Preach is walking around in a frustration circle while saying it makes it that much funnier 😂😂😂
@@robertdarden9194😂😂😂
Straight Factz🤣💯
Nahhhhhh😭😭They cooked now. Aba and Preach talking about them😭😭
😂😂😂😂😂
I was watching another TH-camr cover this yesterday and I was hoping A&P would catch it! 😂🎉
As soon as I saw the video I knew they were cooked lol😂😂
💀
Where’s my boy MTR??
“You wooda done nonnne of those things my boy.” Sent me
"Sorry for being caught." That's what I heard 🤷🏽♂️
Is what you mean is you cant take a joke or comedy because your a snowflake, comedy is free speech it isnt meant to be taken personally you need to get a grip.
Caught laughing at a joke 😂
Imagine going on an Andrew Schultz podcast and being surprised there's racial jokes
Like Sir you signed up for this, nobody forced you to go on there
They asked to go on there
So we normalizing racism
Where was the joke? Jokes are supposed to have an actual punchline. Calling a group of people abusive or dangerous it’s just a stereotype that has been spread for hundreds of years.
@@thezu9250 but he makes racist "hamrful" jokes about everyone
@@thezu9250 The "punchline" is the sarcastic twist on the expectation. The listener expects the speaker to give praise for the good haircut but instead the person just gets roasted. The more outrageous and exaggerated the twist, the higher the contrast with what was expected, the higher the surprise factor which results in finding humour in the absurdity
It's pretty standard sarcasm.
First rule of finding jokes funny is to not take everything literally. Seems like people are already having trouble at this first (and only) hurdle
But as the ancient saying goes. Explaining a joke is like dissecting a frog - you understand it better but it dies in the process 🙄
I’m a black woman. The joke from Andrew was not funny. But it wasn’t offensive.
It was just stupid and unoriginal since he’s parroting podcast bros.
should they parrot podcast hos?
@@bobbob-vw4cc you shouldn’t parrot anyone. Be yourself
I thought it was funny, but then again I'm that girl they talkin bout 😂😂😂
@@dissentraleyesyou are very silly
@MasonSkyline BM literally never stop with the B.S.
Schulz was saying things that were over the top. What they said weren’t even jokes. They were just putting down black women.
I'm not sure you know what comedy is... but that's about half of the craft. If you can't laugh at yourself even about shit that is so blatantly untrue not even 1/4th the population believes it then you might just be a miserable fuck. You think I take offense it when someone makes a joke about colonizers? If the joke doesn't pertain to you why are you getting huffey in the first place?
Exactly but what's new? Bitter people are going to do bitter people things. Behind each male who disparages black women is a boy who was hurt by one lol.
You can put people down as a joke
@@behappy5869 yeah but when you're on that field, you gotta thread lightly, because you're either hilarious, or you're racist / xenophobe / sexist
"putting people down" as a joke aint the way to go. do a parallel on yourself, maybe you'll get more laughs, mix it with self depracating humour, not JUST dunking on someone
Andrew always goes over the top no matter the race, everyone's skin is paper thin anymore
You’re in a difficult position when half the people are going to think your apology isn’t good enough and the other half will think you are weak for even apologising in the first place 😂
Ok then it comes down to which half brings in more money? 😅
@@joanna0988 pretty much yep 😂
They had many options. Not address it, double down that it's fine, give a quick address of the situation. They chose the worst option and went full The View fake af apology they were already cringe but now no one will ever take them seriously. Quick fame fades fast. Schulz has a dedicated audience he doesnt gaf
I wish they just ignored this and moved on cus besides the "apology", I feel like this is a nothing burger. Just the internet looking for something else to be noisy about.
@@ndubuisiamadi exactly I didn't even know there was anything wrong until they apologized and I watch both sng and flagrant
I've been waiting for an Aba and Preach Shxtsngigs crossover for forever man. Never would have wanted it to be like this though😭
It already happened.
Go look in the episodes
@@Crystal-l6u7ywhich one??
Right!!! Like I love both shows
Our favorite blk men to watch. Just sad
The fboys pretending to be nice guys podcast went on the nice guys pretending to be fboys podcast, and their pretend fans got mad.
underrated comment.
Bars
Very well put
Uhhh wut? Shultz if NOT funny ever in his life and calling that jaggazz a nice guy makes you sound trumpy bruv
This is so true. The flagrant podcast guys are settled and married who joke about debauchery.
Crazy how relevant this is in December, and ya filmed this in September😮💨 I love you guys, keep doing god work🙌🏽
A podcast called Shxts & Giggles is getting cancelled for giggling at shxt man you can't make this stuff up
😂😂😂 2024 for you
@@JustSteezus like it should
😂😂😂 crazyy
Sounds about white
…Oh wait-
canceling is a gross over exaggeration of what happened. their audience is predominately black women who have now lost interest once all this came about, unsurprisingly. and that’s expected and fair because why would their audience owe them loyalty if they’re this comfortable disparaging them? it’s just cause and effect. you can’t insult your audience and then expect them to stay, that’s basic business 101. if anything they “cancelled” themselves
I not mad cause I had already assumed that they didn't date black women base on how they talk . Didn't seem like they stand for nothing but shits and giggles .
How do they talk?
@@matthewred8622Like they seek validation, lack substance, and are overly animated to keep up a con.
judging them on how they talk is not stereotyping? it's ok to draw conclusions on men you don't know, but you want them to not have prejudices against bw right?
@@ninagolgie4649 oh wow, the answer was deeper than what I expected.
@@matthewred8622 thye dont use slang and say nigga every 30 seconds. Thats the blk men they like.
And the fact that they had OTHER parts cut out of the episode before it was finalized but felt like this was okay to leave that part in. That’s why I don’t accept the apology lol
“You would’ve done NONE of those things” 🤣🤣
“Fresh and shit..” NAHHHH! I died watching that! 😂😂😂😂😂
Highlight of the video 😂
Woah, fresh and fit are shocking individuals. These pair are not even near that level of misogyny. They are a pair of idiots
, especially James, but not nasty and egotistical wankers.
Fart and shit 😂😂😂
Even better 😂😂😂😂@@VoVina111
didnt shulz and flagrant go in on fresh and fit for making jokes about black women. I could argue shulz's jokes were more over than line than myrons jokes
I’m just shocked that their black female followers are surprised by this … A majority of the time when black men have a pod cast , it’s always the same subjects … Black woman bashing , and “Dating advise “.. it’s very few that actually have more to talk about .. Aba and Preach , you guys better not go down that hole !! 😂
If black women start doing their part, I would imagine black men would stop talking down on y'all.
@@bobbob-vw4cc This comment is more for someone who gives a damn .. I’m not really one that ever cared about what they thought about me because they are not my main focus … 🤷🏽♀️
What is your sample size? Fresh and fit and these guys having one scandal?
That's not most black male podcasters.
@@tylersmith3139 I don’t care to learn the names of the other clowns that I see that pop up on my feed on a daily basis … There’s tons of them !! And the subject matter is literally ALL the same .
Fix ya droopy eye and stop tryna make everything a black women vs black men thing, yall want to start gender wars everyday
They got Matt Rifed but instead they folded to their audience. they forgot that they are just The View with beards
Dammmmnnn 😂😂😂😂😂
Who watches these jabronies? I lost brain cells just listening to these clips.
Come on man… the view with beards 😂😂😂
😂😂😂 I couldn't have said this better. Wow!!
the view with beards is insane disrespect lol
To be fair, James and Fuhad say the most toxic shit about their relationships so I don’t really understand why it didn’t bother before
This right here. In fact, I'd go as far as to say that 90% of their podcast is worse than this
I follow them but honestly I only watch the clips I've never actually watched a full show of theres
Yep. It's coz half the people mad actually never even watched their content 😂 so it was silly for them to apologize coz now they open a can of worms for everybody to rag on them and that's what the internet did.
@@TheOnlyTaps that’s exactly that!! I follow them too but only watch the shorts. I think the reason why people didn’t get mad before is because most of the time, they make fun of themselves but even then they say some weirdest ish 😂😂
@@Marie-23 Yeah like it's funny coz the clips people were getting mad at are old from the summer but hadn't gained any traction till recently. So everyone was fine with it this whole time until the Flagrant thing blew up coz obviously the Flagrant clips go far and wide 😂 all they had to do was double down and keep it pushing. Coz whether you agree or disagree with their jokes we all have the right to make jokes and so if they land they land and if they miss you hold the L and try again. So I always find it funny when people retroactively get mad. Coz I'm not condoning their jokes or agreeing with them but lawd have mercy the internet gotta learn to be mad when something happens rather than jumping on things for the sake of it. It's like if people started digging into old jokes that Aba and Preach have made years ago then getting mad now like bruh you were okay with it four years ago why didn't you say something.
Learn to heal. You hurting others because you were hurt is only going to ruin you. That is their downfall.
They let Schultz put them in the trick bag. That's on them.
💯💯💯
White people been doing that to black people since race was created
What trick bag. You ever seen black girl effect? White guy gets taken from a standard Nissan maxima to Donk ride. Man don't even look like a white guy anymore. Black woman basically Xzibit if There was a show call "PIMP MY WHITE BOY"
What does that mean?
“This is America, don’t catch you slipping up” 😂
Can’t blame them for being offended, they always have to deal with the being undesirable stereotype and all these negative comments. Then you have 2 black men laughing and validating these other guys, that are clowning our women. It’s like they’re always the bud of a “joke”
being mad at a comedian for making fun of you b/c you sit in the front row at a stand-up. Are you okay, bruv?
@@bobbob-vw4cc are you okay? This is not a stand up* and no one was in the front row.
@@RodneyDevoss Sissy.
@@chaucerianfraud6767 What are you? 12?
You calling someone a sissy because you don't agree with what they said?
I never thought that the day these guys cover shxts and gigs it would be for something like this 😔
is all wrong, drama sells, if they are doing well they will not talk about it....
@@sport504 because no one cares about a positive video
@@yota8325shit I do😢
nahh bc fuhad and james have been controversial tbh like they way they’ve talked about women so many times is definitely questionable but oh well
@@cherrycokeeHow did they “talk about women” ??
I think the thing that bothers black women is being constant punching bags, but to a point where it becomes dehumanizing. The Big Momma/Rasputia/Madea jokes are so tired. Especially when it's from someone we SUPPORT. No one cares for Andrew because his main audience is not black women. The other 2, it's a different story. Saying something is "tame," when you're not at the receiving end is too easy. Sometime, shit is just not funny. Its not about "being a snowflake," it's just not funny.
You are not a constant punching bag. EVERYBODY gets these jokes.
@@xzodiayinzero5929 Blackklansman
Honestly if those jokes constantly bother you you’re a “snowflake” it’s comedy either you laugh or you don’t it’s subjective
Your profile says it all. Deal with it and nut up
@@xzodiayinzero5929considering black women are statistically six times more likely to be murdered than white women, and caught up in domestic abuse, they are quite literally punching bags tbh
make the same joke about how many cops beat their wives and watch the 'real' snowflakes lose their minds 😂 i have never seen someone throw a bigger tantrum than a right winger realizing they're the butt of a joke. lol
The handshake after Fresh & Shit 14:33 🤣🤣🤣 Preach is the man
They should've just ignored this, I think this apology brought unnecessary attention.
I agree
Yep I had no idea and I watched them occasionally. Now I dont want to watch them for apologizing
Yep 💯😂, like bruh it's just jokes. Nobody ever looked at their content for some sort of insightful or thought provoking content it was just there for the laughs. When people start getting mad about jokes and they fold now they open up a whole can of worms for everybody to get offended. Some jokes land some don't, as a creator unless you are actively harming someone you just chalk up the jokes that missed and keep it pushing.
Exactly. It also sets a bad precedent cause when you apologize once, they'll expect it every time. Which would be fine if the goalposts weren't always moving
Especially since it was insincere.
Farts&chuckles
😂
Diarrhea&chortles
I'm West-Indian American and my Chinese hubby disagrees with the visceral hate towards black women...only the ignorant make and believe in stereotypes...Keep stereotyping black women and we will keep moving towards who loves us ❤
nice try stereotypes exist based on truths you just dont like being accountable
💯💯💯
@@JM-gm5eiyou’re clearly uneducated. You don’t know this woman personally. She can’t be held accountable for something she has not done. So what do you mean she doesn’t like being held accountable? You know nothing of her life or decisions she’s made. She could be the complete opposite of a stereotype. But you’re right stereotypes exist for a reason. There’s stereotypes about black men being violent criminals for a reason. There’s stereotypes about white men being perverted pedophiles for a reason. There’s stereotypes about white women falsely accusing men of rape for a reason…
@@JM-gm5eithose anti black stereotypes were first created during slavery as a way to make white people scared of black people and not want to free them. Stop making shit up
@@JM-gm5eistereotypes do exist for a reason. Which begs the question: why did OP choose a Chinese man?
Preach is cooking on this video. He’s got the correct take and explanations throughout the whole.
Andrew called James “double slaved” and he just giggled 😵💫😵💫
That was a funny joke
Maybe it turned him on.
True though and it was funny
and all of those jokes made James and Fuhad super uncomfortable.
@@NidokingOtsutsukibullshit 😂 if that makes them uncomfortable they are hypocrites.
They shoulda just kept it pushing and avoided this whole “controversy”. They made some jokes, caught some flak and paid attention to the wrong crowd, then gave a phony apology that comes very transparently inauthentic.
Wrong crowd??You mean 70 % of their audience?
@@sakuraesther6309 yuh, if it’s killing their expansion, they should just rebrand. You only really need to captivate like 30% of your given viewership and make it through
@@sakuraesther6309 doubt it's 70% of their audience that is gonna stop watching because of that joke. I'd argue they'll loose more viewers because of the fake apology than from being on flagrant
Cancelling is over just don’t watch or support them if you don’t find their jokes entertaining point blank period
It was hardly ever a thing. Hell today if a comedian gets canceled it’s an upward trajectory on their careers
@@dreamshakejunya Yep. Like now Matt Rife has his dream audience.
That’s what canceling is. Just choosing not to support and people are just talking about it since they are commentators
Exactly
@@eboniecleaver2but it’s not canceling anything.
It’s signal boosting it.
What you’re describing is simple capitalism.
‘Ham & alcohol’ podcast made me giggle lmao
This title makes me feel like I skipped an episode
Real
Right
Facts!!!!!!!!
Fuckin same!
Waltzed into episode 39
I like how when Preach went off on the whole "if it were me" bit Aba clarified the context and Preach simply said, "Thank you." and Aba's like yeah all good let's get back into it. That's how simple it can be. Wholesome and mature moment. Lot of people could learn from it, myself included.
Never would've thought my two worlds colliding like this omg
Lmao fr
Same lol. I didn't see this coming
Brooooooo
This is crazy to me
My TH-cam world
Facts 😂
Frrrr
I’m so tired of seeing some men make jokes about black women being undesirable. Stop grouping all black women together in the same category based off of your experience with other black women. Not me personally, but I can see why some black women are discouraged in the dating market. Imagine hearing this in person and then on social media every other day.
Not mens fault bw grow ugly
Stop taking what some people say and letting it run your mind. You will never be happy if you let that happen do just ignore the haters and appreciate the ones that fuck with you. There are "beautiful" women in every race and "ugly" ones too and still both get picked yes the beautiful ones get desired more but more times than not its the "ugly" ones that end up married.
Stop taking jokes to heart. Men and women alike make jokes about black dads being absent/leaving for the milk but nobody is seriously thinking every black dad is like that when they make these jokes. The whole point is that it's absurd.
@agoodneighbour growing up I hear all the absent dad jokes/stereotypes and they don't affect me cause I'm an individual as long as I don't be absent i got nothing to be mad at. The women complaining low-key must identify with the stereotypes and be getting pressed.
@@xstonedsoberx Or maybe some women just like to stick up for other women. Just because it’s a joke doesn’t make it right. If your daughter came to you saying she didn’t feel good about herself because of how people perceived her, it would be different. Am I personally offended, no. But wrong is wrong. Joking or not.
That weak apology with the adLibs was giving the “boys being boys” man dem😂
Not the Adblibs😂😂😂😂😂😂
Schulz came out with a reaction video, where he said James and Fuhad had agreed on the final cut (after having some jokes cut) they were fine with the black gf jokes staying in 👀
So this is what Kendrick was talking about
This is not how I wanted a shitsxgigs and Aba and Preach collab to go. 😂
Ain’t nothing worse than two men groveling for forgiveness over something they don’t believe. I have more respect for a channel that stands on what they say, lose half their audience, and apologize to absolutely no one. That’s the kind of integrity that retains your true core audience over the ones you cape for that won’t be there in four weeks anyway.
More chances they lose just some sensitive ones and get to continue without always walking on egg shells because the victims of the left and right need to find a reason to make themselves feel less of a loser.
unfortunately their true core audience is in fact who they insulted so... looks like theyre cooked 😂
@@ToriOfTheNilethey still would’ve been better off not apologizing instead of treating them like idiots with that lame groveling.
Notice they don't look at the camera during the apology? Yeah bro, very genuine
Yeah but that happens when people are uncomfortable aswell, and I don’t watch them enough to know if they normally do that. It might be part of their baseline which has to do with reading body language, that it is their normal behaviour vs they normally are looking at the camera in other videos.
I love you guys! You are hilarious and incredibly on point.
Black men both dark and lightskin throwing black women under the bus? Tale as old as time…
None of us saw it coming, like how can this be? 😱 surprised, surprised 😯
James isn’t black he’s mixed race. In the U.K. we don’t follow the one drop rule from the US
@@ruseangirl Mixed with what?
@@ruseangirlhe’s black to yt people cut the crap he’s anti black and self hating
Im shoccccked 😐 like so shocked to my core .
Those were some tame ass jokes.
Edit: holy shit wtf happened in the comments?!
These are the times, you can't even call a woman.......a woman, according to some people.
They weren't. Basically, he called all black women violent beasts.
When your constantly the butt of the joke it gets old. Also, when anyone says ANYTHING negative about black men yall slide down the wall crying
@@brookealicia92so you make jokes about them but don't like it when it's you ? How are you Amy better then
It's funny how the non-melanted think that they can say anything and call it a joke. Imagine if I made jokes about being inbred, incestuous, hygienically challenged, mutants?
I saw them almost laugh a few times with that apology, tell me im not the only one😭😭
😂😂😂😂 I clocked it too
The part about going on a podcast but not knowing anything about it is spot on. Shxtsngigs went on Rick glassmans’s podcast and it was such an uncomfortable episode where, again they had no idea what kind of tone/vibe of podcast they were part of. Almost like they were just turning up to these with 0 prep
*NOPE! NOT the case here!! James has admitted SEVERAL times before then that he is an HUGE Andrew Schultz fan and LOVES the Flagerant Podcast and how it's one of the Only podcasts he listens to regularly!!*
They asked to have stuff edited out of the episode of Flagrant. This joke was not one of them, they dont care. They're just protecting their pockets.
2024 will go down as the year the party really died fr
Comedy has been dead for decades
nawl...that was 2020...it's been all downhill since then
after 2016 when this small woke mob started to gain traction and are promoted by the elites everything went to shit.
@@jayb1911 true lmao i been saying that; but 2024 is definitely the nail in the coffin!
probably because it's impossible to pretend the world isn't totally fucked rn and no amount of laughing it off is going to make the issues go away until they are actually addressed and taken seriously
Tbh, the main thing about Andrew's joke is that is wasn't funny. It just seemed like a forced way to make a joke about black women that wasn't needed.
So laughing at joke some people don’t find funny is a cancelable offense? 🤦♂️😂
@@dylangerber5163who said that? The comment didn't say that!
@@Ladybug_tugga_wug him trying to justify the reaction implies it buddy 😂
@dylangerber5163 Yes, it is. It means you agree with the joke. Sorry, I thought you loved consequences and accountability and whatnot?
@@guellaliguemra2321 They always do.. until it's their turn to experience it. lol.
9:18 they’re not even making eye contact with the CAMERA 🤦🏾♀️ while “apologizing “.
They can enjoy the Daniel Caesar effect - alienating your early/ride-or-die supporters (especially black women) never works out.
could you elaborate? he did what?
@0x4e6f31 Daniel Ceasar was defending a råcist ⚪️ woman. Who constantly does råcist things. When she was getting called on it. He came to her defense. He told black people specifically not to buy his music or support him. Which black people did. And it made his albums after flopped. Funny enough the person he defended. Never backed him up and promoted his music on her platforms lol.
@@avaphynxhe has 30 mil monthly listeners on Spotify I don’t consider that flopping
@@billymay8461Spotify gives most of their money to Joe Rogan. Truthfully those Spotify numbers don't mean anything.
@@billymay8461 well they should have bought his albums after. Because they flopped.
What shocks me more is the fact that there are people out there thinking Andrew is funny 😮
You not having a humor is not unique.. by the way liking your own comment 🤡
He was, not so much now
@@123tamz The only he knows how to do his make loud sounds and tell racist jokes, he doesn t have anything else. You remove those 2 things from his head, I guarantee you, no neurons are left
What shocks me is people thinking they’re the arbiters of funny. You not finding something funny is not the same as it not being funny. You’re not the main character.
@@123tamzComedy is subjective until it’s your favorite innit. His 2019 Netflix special was a flop, Other comedians don’t find him funny, literally just watch the Shane Gillis episode and you can watch your mans get clapped live.
Realistically, Andrew did not like the fact that there is a trend going viral called the "black wife/girlfriend effect". He was in his feelings and wanted to shut it down!
So basically
The easiest way to come up, women
The easiest way to fall off, women
U got it right
Men choose the easy come up and intentionally fuck it up when they want validation from other men in the game.
Ngl, I know like 2% of the peeps you cover and I thank God for that.
Crossover I never expected 😂😂😂
Broooo😂😂
Not on this terms 😅
Next crossover will be drake n diddi
I been waiting for this for 2 years!
Actually wild, you know it's getting rough for James and Fuhad now 😬
This is a great example of apologizing because you got caught not because you weren't down with the material.
Andrew also said, I think in their following podcast, that appearantly SnG and their manager/management decided which clips needed to be deleted from their show. According to Schuld they cut out some stuff on their request, but THAT segment wasn't requested to be removed. Obviously idk if what Shulz said is true, but if it is, then SnGs fight or flight response is impressively slow
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1:00:15 onwards is Flagrents response @AbaNPreach
Weak men
Yep.
They ain’t even black 🤦🏿♂️🤣🤣 they white and sensitive as hell !!
I’m from London and I always refused to watch these guys as they give gay vibes and white behaviour
They are black after all.
Basically
Black women have been severely disrespected for too long. And although one can argue that we play a role in our own demise, black men definitely are a large part of the reason as well. There aren’t enough black men stepping up to defend the honor of the black women. This is why other races feel no shame coming for us on a public level.
It honestly can’t be though. Black women are not a monolith. They just get the worst end of the stick in terms of adjectives. An abusive Latina is called “spicy,” but a black woman who stands up for herself verbally is called “aggressive.” Same reason Sabrina Carpenter can make a song completely about sex, but only the MegantheStallion’s are associated with vulgarity.
You can’t allow yourself to get bogged down into the politics of respectability. If every black woman acted just like every other woman, guess what ? They’d still be treated the same. Why ? Purely because all human behaviors overlap. Some women are vulgar, some are abusive, some are toxic. Those things are not exclusive to black women. You set yourself up taking on the words of racists as fact.
@@uncletea5632we are way past adjectives. Black women in general are seen in the lowest regard compared to our counter parts. Black men do not make it any better
Awww woe is me
Andrew is a super edgy comedian, he does it with all races. I personally been with a few black women and the stereotypes don't add up, even for the ones who come from the ghetto.
9:06 that sigh before the explanation says everything I need to know
They should've never apologised loool
they gave the story legs by apologising
Majority of their fans are Black women
Exactly. They should have just left it alone. It happened move on, it’s up to whoever if they no longer feel interested in watching their podcast. Next.
Frr they should have just firmed it and moved on cause now they just look like wet wipes😂
Honestly
I heard they lost 100,000 subscribers. I’m so glad black women are moving like that.
Same 😌
We ride at dawn!
200,000😂😂 I watched it go from 1.95 to 1.93
@@kelleyvice1387that’s 20,000
We have been for the longest. We generally move in silence
I don’t think anything is wrong with jokes on stereotypes, culture, sex, race, etc. The joke just has to be good, or it’ll come off negatively to most. In this case the joke wasn’t funny so it landed bad.
You can't know if a joke is bad without telling it. People simply dont understand comedy and want a special pass to not be the butt of a joke. Black women routinely make jokes about white men.
Unfortunately Andrew isn't one to handle being told his jokes are low hanging fruit one could easily hear in a frat house. they get really butt heart over in that podcast when anyone says they're jokes aren't funny. and start throwing around a lot off buzz words like triggered, soft, cancel culture , edgy etc. never once does it occur to him that some times the simplest answer is the truth. It wasn't funny.
Or just perpetual victims crying regardless
It's not funny when you're a black woman because you're always at the end of the joke
@@autumn551 Andrew laughed at what happened. He couldn't give a shit whether you find him funny or not. Comedy is subjective and a comedian obviously knows that.The reality is you never even took it as a joke. Theres nothing here for you to find funny because you took it literally.
The way Preach tapped out from from 10:40 - 11:08 😂😂😂
“There were women naked”
“Where’d you go?”
“The strip club”
“😮 Appalled” LOL!
Its funny when one person tells joke and the other person that laughs get cancelled.
We live in a very soft and racist society where people are overly sensitive to one race, while said same race being subsequently insanely racist towards another…. 🤷♂️
They know they can't cancel the wyte dude that's why they pick on the weakest link
That's the part that's confusing me here😂😂😂that's the only part
@@MagnumTalawah Not even that they Tried and Andrew told them to their face he ain't apologizing for anything
The joke was funny. People are too sensitive
How the HELL did Schulz get these guys on FLAGRANT lmfao
They were doing a U.S. tour for whatever the hell it is they do. In that circumstance, it makes sense they would show up on a podcast like Schulz'.
Akaash Singh knew about these 2 lames and invited them on the pod
Lames? @@blazinpyromaniac
@@DoobieKeebler Not with their backgrounds in content it seems lol
@@TheFaro2011 Tbf they are pretty lame which became clear on the podcast. I think Andrew realized pretty quick that they are just innocent young dudes who got famous really fast, but aren't actual comedians. They pander to their audience and try to keep things "pg13" while simultaneously saying adult topics. It's no shade against them they seem like nice friendly dudes but idk how so many people get famous these days from social media
You two are so level headed. Best way to describe your takes. Thanks for the great content always
I am a black woman. I have a twin. I’m very happy that I’ve taught him what black women go through and he’s come to appreciate women of all stripes & races especially black women.
Preach walking around in circles had me rolling 🤣