acts4 "32All the believers were one in heart and mind. No one claimed that any of his possessions was his own, but they shared everything they had. 33With great power the apostles continued to testify to the resurrection of the Lord Jesus, and much grace was upon them all. 34There were no needy persons among them. For from time to time those who owned lands or houses sold them, brought the money from the sales 35and put it at the apostles' feet, and it was distributed to anyone as he had need."
The pastor at my church (I have to go, parents..) makes lectures on how you need to pay your tithes (10% of your income) as a very base of christianity, this song is so true, espically Southern Baptist churches.
Religion is not bad Drastic. Plain and simple. Its the truth. Just because you don't want to conform and accept truth and error as actually existing instead of just some abstract principles; that doesn't mean that its not the truth. Simple as that, you rejecting the truth does not change validity of it. Truth has never cared how many people believe it.
Awesome song, and the song is clearly not bashing religion, its bashing monnetary scams, and televangalists that make people send money in, not religion itself.
Take that organized religion... God/Religion is simply a safety blanket for weak minded people who choose not to believe in modern science, logic or reason. NOFX You're Wrong is another great tune.
@formerlythetim It might, but it's difficult to take anyone seriously when they type like they're in the third grade. :3 Sorry, but your words fall on deaf ears.
I was poking fun at religion at school, and this girl said "it really pisses me off to hear someone trash my religion. so watch out." I'd love to see her reaction to this video. The next day, I wore my bad religion shirt, just for her.
none of you realize the point of this song ur all arguing about if you beleive or don't beleive in god because you think that this song is about hating god. it's not this song is attacking organized religion and organized religious groups who put fear in people and scare them to take their money they say things like if you don't give us your money your going to hell and other thing like that 'you wonna go to heaven you see it isn't free give your money up to me that's what it says in the song
Thats your beef with religion. Cool. Thats your prerogative. But you missed the point of the song. Its all in the lyrics. You can be against organized religion and still believe. Thats the basis of the song. It doesnt matter if you agree with the artist or not; if the ONLY thing you get from this song is "your gods not for me!", then you missed the point completely. Seriously. I am not even trying to evangelize to you, I dont do that anyways. Read the lyrics to the song
You're richer than God but you're cryin' out for more, you're livin' like a king while you steal from the poor, wanna be forgiven, get on your knees and pray, send in your cash and be saved My god is not the one that you wanna see....
HEy dontbe embarassed o be a Christian, follow what Jesus says and not what "his followers say" never judge God on how people act. There are way to many hypocrites nowadays in the church.
hear hear! also i believe you can be a spiritual person without associating yourself with any one religion, but it's ok if you disagree. either way organised religion is not the ONLY path to God
so many people missed the point of this song...LOL "my God's not the One that you wanna see. Your god is a mirage a conspiracy..." Dont let Christians fool you into believing that you are not loved. Free will is a gift; we have the power to help each other, live well, and correct the wrongs we see in life. If you hope for a bearded being to rip your ceiling off and do something, its probably not gonna happen. But faith in humanity and being able to reach your hand out to someone weaker.
@merkablebenis I understand that, but i dont have a barrier in my mind. If i dont believe in religion, nothing can stop me from thinking beyond what a mind of a religious person can in certain situations. If a question is presented to you, you will give one, maybe 2 answers using static scripture materials, but never proving what you are saying using todays tools. You dont want to prove it because its not what your religion is about. Its believe or go to Hell. (you = general)
@lazyluigi101 Let's brake it down shall we...to your dismay, I freely express myself with a view point opposite that of Pennywise...It sounds like you want to censor me!!! We should not silence the opinions of others. The beauty of it is to have both. I am not wishing for the abolition of atheism, or non-Christianity...Every man has his right to choose...Also, I saw Pennywise back when they were on the Warped Tour in 1999...It sounds like you are attacking me. Instead of making a point.
@mroy88 About Einstein, that's it : " A knowledge of the existence of something we cannot penetrate, of the manifestations of the profoundest reason and the most radiant beauty - it is this knowledge and this emotion that constitute the truly religious attitude; in this sense, and in this alone, I am a deeply religious man. " . See the quote about God not playin' dice too. However, believe what you think it' right, and let me do the same, RESPECTING. Peace.
Well, I'm a christian and i really like this song... to me, it's not anti-religious at all,but more a condamnation of that way of easy,blind and superficial believing,that makes too many foolish people think that Heaven is a kind of theatre : make a contribution,get a better seat. In the lyrics it's a kind of evidence.Everyone has got his own personal reasons to believe or not, but Faith it's not business. Just read the Gospel and you'll see that God doesn't ask money, just each other love.
we do not know if there IS or IS NOT a god, so people claiming to know for absolute fact that there is a god are as ignorant as the people claiming god absolutely is real! i personally am prety torn on the subject, but my instincts tell me this life is pure chaos and there is no god/reason! but the order in the world (in nature, our bodies, etc) does certainly make you wonder where it all comes from! dont put down people who believe, just as it is wrong to put down people who dont believe!
I'm sorry, but to say "God &Religion = Control, Greed, & Death.." is ignorance. You seem to have misunderstood the idea of the song. It talks about how PEOPLE (not God) manipulate other people to give them money and so on. I believe in God but think thos peopel that ask for money for religion should go to hell. God should be beyond a belief, but a general feeling of right and wrong and moral things. People should feel bad by killing not because of the law, but simply because its wrong!
OK, there is no proof, but i believe in research rather than imagination to find out the truth. The idea of an almighty, invisible being which has created the earth doesn't make any sense to me. And also, if I'm created by god, why didn't he let me (and others) believe in him, so we can honour him? Maybe he didn't want us to honour him, but than why do some people do and why did he even make us? Not that the big bang theory makes sense: nothing comes from nothing. I'm going philosophical again
How do you get on the topic of whether god exists or not from this song? The message of the song is not against religion or denying the existence of anything. The message is against mainstream religion and what the media has done to it. The song is about things like preachers on television who ask for money in exchange for forgiveness and prayer which should obviously be free if you're christian. Before you say anything, It doesn't mean I'm Christian. It just means you've missed the point.
Fundamentally, there is no absolute evidence for the nonexistent of god just as there is no absolute evidence for his existence. But there is no absolute evidence that Mel Gibson created the universe either. But obviously he did because there's no absolute evidence that he didn't. Every logical piece of evidence points towards a natural birth of life. The only proof religion presents is an absence of proof, like mine above. To quote a well known saying: Man created god. I do pity believers.
i am a christian, i know that Jesus is my savior. but i also know this song is right to some extend. it is hard to separate Jesus from the mistakes of his followers but if you look into the original essence of following Jesus you'll see it makes a lot of sense, religion sucks, Jesus is not about religion Jesus is about being honest about yourself and recognizing that you need god to, well, save you from yourself
religion is a choice, not a chore, the song isn't saying all religion is "bad", hell they even admit to believing in their own god, personally this is my favorite pennywise song, i mean c'mon, how RICH are the people in the Vatican, how many BILLIONS hang on their walls that could go to fix world hunger? god may exist, he may not, but investing in faith (buying heaven) is a straight shot to hell, if there is a god, i honestly don't think he gives a shit about your pay stub =)
Agreed. It seems the majority of people involved in organised religion do not take the time to look into it's origins but are happy to accept with blind faith... Atheists (from my point of view) take a more investigative and scientific approach to life and seek more answers no matter what the topic. I was amazed when door-knocking Jehovah's Witnesses when offered a debate with me regarding religion knew little more than church rhetoric. I would have liked them to have had an personal opinion
I'd say there definitely is a one true creator of benevolence but it's certainly not completely in charge of this universe. dont let the people in power (that still try to settle global problems like a bunch of angry children) tell you how shit is because the fact is that noone knows. lets keep doing our homework and learn everything we can that can possibly effect us and continue to make our decisions based on what we learn and not what we're taught.
I see you point, but as some already said: Why do you need religion to be moral? Why must religion 'say' so many things about the creation and the structure of nature, when those ideas are without scientific and historic proof? Why are atheists systematically discriminated, even in secular countries, when all they do is doubt? In a world without religion, none of the above would be an issue. And the pro for religion, morality can perfectly be explained in a Darwinian way.
Clearly everyone understands the meaning of this song as well as the unknowns. Only problem is most of what everyone is saying is bull. If you truly believe this song is anti-religion, then god help you. Excuse the poor pun. Americans are sensitive group of people, and topics such as religion are best not debated on youtube. It be more sensible for people to save their hotair for a more appropriate time.
@gabeoi Your perception of faith may be blissful ignorance, but to many, it is true hope, peace, and strength! This is seen in peoples lives when they listen to God. Is it any wonder the human psyche is comforted through devoted faith in God? We can agree to disagree, and you can keep pressing repeat on your favorite Pennywise songs for happiness :)
i used to be a real huge christian. this song but it all into perspective. i was raised if i dont believe ill go to hell. if you realize it they sold these pamphlets that forgave your sins. whats true? who made us. its brainwash. now everything i knew was a lie im confused. but i saw exorcisms where Christs name was used and it hurt the demon. whats true???????
all religion? so which is it? all religion is fake, or all religion except for buddhism and rasta? and what sets them apart? do you really know? or they are just trendy and cool, so you agree with them? but we digress..I'm going to stop replying. Pennywise is a good band, no matter what their politics/views are
but mmmlllmmpahna there are also many religious people who dont know crap about atheism the worst thing, though, is that some religious people think they are so great and better than religious people remember arguing with extremes is a bad argument =) im not offended and i respect your opinion but heres mine
You need common sense to know there's no god. If you watch the world around you, you'll understand that all they're telling you is just a joke. If that doesn´t work question your religion and look the truth for yourself not by reading books of Sagand and Hawkins
Youngpunk92, you are so f*ckn right! God doesn't excist, people believe in it so they think they will end up in heaven if they lead a good life. But sorry every religion is just made up, I hope religious people will find the truth themselves sooner or later...
there are countrys where you have to pay "church taxes". And I don't care who they work with, I feel better when _I_ work with organisations where I can decide who recieves "my" money. I don't wanna pay a new pope, or priest or whatever, I wanna help ppl, if I donate.
this isnt a song about atheism. this song is about the man made organized religion taking the word of God and using it to bamboozle people. "...my God is not the one taht you want to see. Youre god is a mirage a consipiracy...your gods' not for me..."
I was raised catholic but realized all of it was bullshit and turned atheist by the time I was eleven years old. When people preach about any sort of god I feel sick. Believe whatever the fuck you want but just don't force it onto me.
@mroy88 I think you need to find another argument to blame religion. The list of not narrow-minded people who believe is very very long...some of the greatest minds of mankind are or were ( when they were alive ) believers,so...
other people have minor influence on your life, are they good for nothing? don't worry about all that shit, it wouldn't help us to know if god exists and what he does. we have a life and sense of ethics, just make the best of it.
okay so there isnt a god. and if there is a slim chance that there is..he doesnt give a shit. so why waste our time and money on him? just live and stop dedicating your life to god in fear of going to hell. worry about that after you die.
please man that doesn't answered my question. how can you ask me to believe in something that you don't even understand. that's how religions brainwash your, telling you that you can't comprehend that so you have to believe in without question them.
skate punk goes way back. Thrasher mag use to release skate punk albums tsol, jfa, drunk injuns to name a few bands. It was the best, and still is, music to skate to, period. It's good to learn your history and theres your lesson for today,
There is proof god doesn't exist, it's called science. God and science are never on one line, so only one can be trusted. Keeping in mind god is a product of imagination and science a product of research; I'll go with science then...
Read about "Horus", the son of"Osirus" in the egyptian book of the dead, which was written 1300B.C. Go see for urself. If you reaserch this,and still think jesus ever existed.....well thats the definition of insanity
@3s999 Assuming we are talking about emotionally tough, ok so escapism, just like if someone had to resort to drugs to help their troubled lives. I wouldn't go as far as saying believing in a God is safer than drugs either.
@beatlegirl61 hahaha your mom should watch this. thats a classic one. hahah if you like that punk sound , theres this up and coming band from san diego called Latex Grenade . look them up. they have a very similar sound.
bunch of fakers them so-called 'religious' folk... Pennywise have been the best PUNK staple for me... ever....my mom should watch this... don't ask... come to the East Coast next time you tour guys!!! 'ck' x respect
wow bro your pastor said that? thats ridiculous. im a firm believer that we should study the bible for our selves and come to our own conclusions to our beliefs, with prayer. pastors should just be used a a sort of guide.
I agree uncleandy...its not bashing religion..its bashing fake people who make money off of religion. They aren't saying they are atheists, they are saying "Their" God is not the God that forgives sins for money
@chinchek I never said my opinion was "80% fact", I said people are about 80% like what I explained. Plus, I knew you would disagree with me If I commented that, so I could catch you being a hypocrite. ;)
@3s999 If thats your thing, go for it. You do notice we claim to be Sane but have total opposite beliefs. There are MANY atheists who are completely sane. So do you need a God to stay sane?
@903gamefreak Not enough room for deeper arguments maybe? You can throw myths and beliefs, but i rely on facts. Hense i dont believe in talking snakes, start with that... lol this will be entertaining.
When you make a valid and inteligent comment, we can try to have some arguements about your views and mine. Until then, your ignorance is expressed in your lack of word choice and poorly expressed ways.
When faith is used by an institution it can be turned into something it wasn't even meant to be. I have no problem with people believing in deities, but don't push it down other peoples throats.
so that makes it bad? why is that even part of the discusssion? Like I said..religion cannot be blamed for how the people act on it. Killing in the name of God does not mean He sanctions it.
14 years later, and ill be back after another 14, still jammin the old school pennywise.
acts4
"32All the believers were one in heart and mind. No one claimed that any of his possessions was his own, but they shared everything they had. 33With great power the apostles continued to testify to the resurrection of the Lord Jesus, and much grace was upon them all. 34There were no needy persons among them. For from time to time those who owned lands or houses sold them, brought the money from the sales 35and put it at the apostles' feet, and it was distributed to anyone as he had need."
One of my top fave Pennywise songs :D
The pastor at my church (I have to go, parents..) makes lectures on how you need to pay your tithes (10% of your income) as a very base of christianity, this song is so true, espically Southern Baptist churches.
and i would live with what i did not caring what anybody said that is true godlessness
i love Live at the Keyclub album
Religion is not bad Drastic. Plain and simple. Its the truth. Just because you don't want to conform and accept truth and error as actually existing instead of just some abstract principles; that doesn't mean that its not the truth. Simple as that, you rejecting the truth does not change validity of it. Truth has never cared how many people believe it.
lol the beginning of the video made me laugh, thinking of Monty Python and the Holy Grail. xD But Great fucking song \m/
Andrew Noel hahahaha yes! I was like is it?... It is!
Well I could mean faith in virtues for example, like honesty etc. Without foolish faith this world would be a very cold place indeed.
i agree i couldnt care less about wat other people believe i will always believe in Christianity.thats why i keep to myself a lot.
yeahhh!!
What do Narnia and Heaven have in common? The only thing that say they exist are the books they're written into.
Awesome song, and the song is clearly not bashing religion, its bashing monnetary scams, and televangalists that make people send money in, not religion itself.
I love clowns with chainsaws!! awsome!
@chinchek wonder how we started as a people? As being alive?
and you can't think that god just appeared from no where
awesome song i dont think pennywise has one bad song
by the way could anyone tell me who the guy at 1:42-1:43 is
this lyrics are real good and the total song sounds nice to
true
@LessThanNOFX except peoples own lives are heaven or hell or a mix
i do belive in god but i belive we all have diffrent gods..
and my god dose not judge!
I daresay there are also many religious people that don't know crap about religion, or at least the religion they claim to practice.
jim has to come back and join pennywise once more
@madorion86 knowledge and moral values, RESPECT!
Take that organized religion... God/Religion is simply a safety blanket for weak minded people who choose not to believe in modern science, logic or reason. NOFX You're Wrong is another great tune.
Jesus is My Lord, he will forgive me!
you know it looks like you said that to me right?
@formerlythetim You used the incorrect form of "break".
@eatmeimsteak
At least those wars (better with none) would be for "legit" reasons...
buy CD'
"I'll believe in God when 1 + 1 is 5."
James Hamilton is this conspiracy?
@erz123ful You say that like Gay is a bad thing.
@beatshack lol
@madorion86 name 5...
Patman tell me about bombing abortion clinics. When that was? Who was responsible for it?
i got a phone sex line when i called it...
@formerlythetim It might, but it's difficult to take anyone seriously when they type like they're in the third grade. :3
Sorry, but your words fall on deaf ears.
"You're living like a king while you steal from the poor." Perfect line to describe televangelists
I was poking fun at religion at school, and this girl said "it really pisses me off to hear someone trash my religion. so watch out." I'd love to see her reaction to this video. The next day, I wore my bad religion shirt, just for her.
none of you realize the point of this song ur all arguing about if you beleive or don't beleive in god because you think that this song is about hating god. it's not this song is attacking organized religion and organized religious groups who put fear in people and scare them to take their money they say things like if you don't give us your money your going to hell and other thing like that 'you wonna go to heaven you see it isn't free give your money up to me that's what it says in the song
"...you wanna go to heaven you see it isn´t free GIVE YOUR MONEY UP TO MEEE!!!"
best sentence dude!!!
thankfully we have bands like pw who fucking get it...
SO TRUE
"You don't like how we live, we're simple and obscene, why are you judging me?" For sure.
Thats your beef with religion. Cool. Thats your prerogative. But you missed the point of the song. Its all in the lyrics. You can be against organized religion and still believe. Thats the basis of the song. It doesnt matter if you agree with the artist or not; if the ONLY thing you get from this song is "your gods not for me!", then you missed the point completely. Seriously. I am not even trying to evangelize to you, I dont do that anyways. Read the lyrics to the song
easily the best punk band that ever fucking graced this planet
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Still no other band could ever compete with Pennywise!!
No religion. No nations. No colors. No guns. Only peace and friendship can save us and our children. But it is just words...
Guns are great, screw off libtard there's no such thing as peace so I'll keep mine to protect me and my family
You're richer than God but you're cryin' out for more,
you're livin' like a king while you steal from the poor,
wanna be forgiven, get on your knees and pray,
send in your cash and be saved
My god is not the one that you wanna see....
pennywise kickkk asssss......respect from Portugal...come to Lisbon quick.....
Gran canción!!! una de mis favoritas de todos los tiempos!!!
@420michael420 i never claimed to be religious. seems you are a confused about the difference :I
God damn! With Jim quit i've got no chance to see em live.... ARRR! Fuck!
HEy dontbe embarassed o be a Christian, follow what Jesus says and not what "his followers say" never judge God on how people act. There are way to many hypocrites nowadays in the church.
@LessThanNOFX wont be long before you regret ever thinking that
i 100% believe in god but this is still one of my fav songs by them.
Awesome! I love this song!
hear hear! also i believe you can be a spiritual person without associating yourself with any one religion, but it's ok if you disagree. either way organised religion is not the ONLY path to God
@formerlythetim Are you seriously going on videos that don't even concern you to attack other people who wish to express their own personal views?
so many people missed the point of this song...LOL
"my God's not the One that you wanna see. Your god is a mirage a conspiracy..."
Dont let Christians fool you into believing that you are not loved. Free will is a gift; we have the power to help each other, live well, and correct the wrongs we see in life. If you hope for a bearded being to rip your ceiling off and do something, its probably not gonna happen. But faith in humanity and being able to reach your hand out to someone weaker.
@merkablebenis
I understand that, but i dont have a barrier in my mind. If i dont believe in religion, nothing can stop me from thinking beyond what a mind of a religious person can in certain situations. If a question is presented to you, you will give one, maybe 2 answers using static scripture materials, but never proving what you are saying using todays tools. You dont want to prove it because its not what your religion is about. Its believe or go to Hell. (you = general)
@lazyluigi101
Let's brake it down shall we...to your dismay, I freely express myself with a view point opposite that of Pennywise...It sounds like you want to censor me!!! We should not silence the opinions of others. The beauty of it is to have both. I am not wishing for the abolition of atheism, or non-Christianity...Every man has his right to choose...Also, I saw Pennywise back when they were on the Warped Tour in 1999...It sounds like you are attacking me. Instead of making a point.
@mroy88 About Einstein, that's it : " A knowledge of the existence of something we cannot penetrate, of the manifestations of the profoundest reason and the most radiant beauty - it is this knowledge and this emotion that constitute the truly religious attitude; in this sense, and in this alone, I am a deeply religious man. " . See the quote about God not playin' dice too.
However, believe what you think it' right, and let me do the same, RESPECTING. Peace.
Well, I'm a christian and i really like this song... to me, it's not anti-religious at all,but more a condamnation of that way of easy,blind and superficial believing,that makes too many foolish people think that Heaven is a kind of theatre : make a contribution,get a better seat. In the lyrics it's a kind of evidence.Everyone has got his own personal reasons to believe or not, but Faith it's not business. Just read the Gospel and you'll see that God doesn't ask money, just each other love.
we do not know if there IS or IS NOT a god, so people claiming to know for absolute fact that there is a god are as ignorant as the people claiming god absolutely is real! i personally am prety torn on the subject, but my instincts tell me this life is pure chaos and there is no god/reason! but the order in the world (in nature, our bodies, etc) does certainly make you wonder where it all comes from! dont put down people who believe, just as it is wrong to put down people who dont believe!
I'm sorry, but to say "God &Religion =
Control, Greed, & Death.." is ignorance.
You seem to have misunderstood the idea of the song. It talks about how PEOPLE (not God) manipulate other people to give them money and so on.
I believe in God but think thos peopel that ask for money for religion should go to hell. God should be beyond a belief, but a general feeling of right and wrong and moral things. People should feel bad by killing not because of the law, but simply because its wrong!
OK, there is no proof, but i believe in research rather than imagination to find out the truth.
The idea of an almighty, invisible being which has created the earth doesn't make any sense to me. And also, if I'm created by god, why didn't he let me (and others) believe in him, so we can honour him? Maybe he didn't want us to honour him, but than why do some people do and why did he even make us?
Not that the big bang theory makes sense: nothing comes from nothing.
I'm going philosophical again
How do you get on the topic of whether god exists or not from this song? The message of the song is not against religion or denying the existence of anything. The message is against mainstream religion and what the media has done to it. The song is about things like preachers on television who ask for money in exchange for forgiveness and prayer which should obviously be free if you're christian. Before you say anything, It doesn't mean I'm Christian. It just means you've missed the point.
Fundamentally, there is no absolute evidence for the nonexistent of god just as there is no absolute evidence for his existence.
But there is no absolute evidence that Mel Gibson created the universe either. But obviously he did because there's no absolute evidence that he didn't.
Every logical piece of evidence points towards a natural birth of life. The only proof religion presents is an absence of proof, like mine above.
To quote a well known saying: Man created god.
I do pity believers.
i am a christian, i know that Jesus is my savior. but i also know this song is right to some extend. it is hard to separate Jesus from the mistakes of his followers but if you look into the original essence of following Jesus you'll see it makes a lot of sense, religion sucks, Jesus is not about religion Jesus is about being honest about yourself and recognizing that you need god to, well, save you from yourself
religion is a choice, not a chore, the song isn't saying all religion is "bad", hell they even admit to believing in their own god, personally this is my favorite pennywise song, i mean c'mon, how RICH are the people in the Vatican, how many BILLIONS hang on their walls that could go to fix world hunger? god may exist, he may not, but investing in faith (buying heaven) is a straight shot to hell, if there is a god, i honestly don't think he gives a shit about your pay stub =)
Agreed. It seems the majority of people involved in organised religion do not take the time to look into it's origins but are happy to accept with blind faith... Atheists (from my point of view) take a more investigative and scientific approach to life and seek more answers no matter what the topic. I was amazed when door-knocking Jehovah's Witnesses when offered a debate with me regarding religion knew little more than church rhetoric. I would have liked them to have had an personal opinion
I'd say there definitely is a one true creator of benevolence but it's certainly not completely in charge of this universe. dont let the people in power (that still try to settle global problems like a bunch of angry children) tell you how shit is because the fact is that noone knows. lets keep doing our homework and learn everything we can that can possibly effect us and continue to make our decisions based on what we learn and not what we're taught.
I see you point, but as some already said: Why do you need religion to be moral? Why must religion 'say' so many things about the creation and the structure of nature, when those ideas are without scientific and historic proof? Why are atheists systematically discriminated, even in secular countries, when all they do is doubt? In a world without religion, none of the above would be an issue. And the pro for religion, morality can perfectly be explained in a Darwinian way.
Clearly everyone understands the meaning of this song as well as the unknowns. Only problem is most of what everyone is saying is bull. If you truly believe this song is anti-religion, then god help you. Excuse the poor pun.
Americans are sensitive group of people, and topics such as religion are best not debated on youtube. It be more sensible for people to save their hotair for a more appropriate time.
@gabeoi
Your perception of faith may be blissful ignorance, but to many, it is true hope, peace, and strength! This is seen in peoples lives when they listen to God. Is it any wonder the human psyche is comforted through devoted faith in God? We can agree to disagree, and you can keep pressing repeat on your favorite Pennywise songs for happiness :)
i used to be a real huge christian. this song but it all into perspective. i was raised if i dont believe ill go to hell. if you realize it they sold these pamphlets that forgave your sins. whats true? who made us. its brainwash. now everything i knew was a lie im confused. but i saw exorcisms where Christs name was used and it hurt the demon. whats true???????
all religion? so which is it? all religion is fake, or all religion except for buddhism and rasta? and what sets them apart? do you really know? or they are just trendy and cool, so you agree with them? but we digress..I'm going to stop replying. Pennywise is a good band, no matter what their politics/views are
but mmmlllmmpahna
there are also many religious people who dont know crap about atheism
the worst thing, though, is that some religious people think they are so great and better than religious people
remember arguing with extremes is a bad argument =)
im not offended and i respect your opinion but heres mine
You need common sense to know there's no god. If you watch the world around you, you'll understand that all they're telling you is just a joke. If that doesn´t work question your religion and look the truth for yourself not by reading books of Sagand and Hawkins
Youngpunk92, you are so f*ckn right!
God doesn't excist,
people believe in it so they think they will end up in heaven if they lead a good life.
But sorry every religion is just made up, I hope religious people will find the truth themselves sooner or later...
there are countrys where you have to pay "church taxes". And I don't care who they work with, I feel better when _I_ work with organisations where I can decide who recieves "my" money.
I don't wanna pay a new pope, or priest or whatever, I wanna help ppl, if I donate.
this isnt a song about atheism. this song is about the man made organized religion taking the word of God and using it to bamboozle people.
"...my God is not the one taht you want to see. Youre god is a mirage a consipiracy...your gods' not for me..."
I was raised catholic but realized all of it was bullshit and turned atheist by the time I was eleven years old. When people preach about any sort of god I feel sick. Believe whatever the fuck you want but just don't force it onto me.
@mroy88 I think you need to find another argument to blame religion. The list of not narrow-minded people who believe is very very long...some of the greatest minds of mankind are or were ( when they were alive ) believers,so...
other people have minor influence on your life, are they good for nothing? don't worry about all that shit, it wouldn't help us to know if god exists and what he does. we have a life and sense of ethics, just make the best of it.
okay so there isnt a god.
and if there is a slim chance that there is..he doesnt give a shit. so why waste our time and money on him? just live and stop dedicating your life to god in fear of going to hell. worry about that after you die.
please man that doesn't answered my question. how can you ask me to believe in something that you don't even understand. that's how religions brainwash your, telling you that you can't comprehend that so you have to believe in without question them.
skate punk goes way back. Thrasher mag use to release skate punk albums tsol, jfa, drunk injuns to name a few bands. It was the best, and still is, music to skate to, period. It's good to learn your history and theres your lesson for today,
There is proof god doesn't exist, it's called science.
God and science are never on one line, so only one can be trusted. Keeping in mind god is a product of imagination and science a product of research; I'll go with science then...
Read about "Horus", the son of"Osirus" in the egyptian book of the dead, which was written 1300B.C. Go see for urself. If you reaserch this,and still think jesus ever existed.....well thats the definition of insanity
@3s999
Assuming we are talking about emotionally tough, ok so escapism, just like if someone had to resort to drugs to help their troubled lives. I wouldn't go as far as saying believing in a God is safer than drugs either.
@beatlegirl61 hahaha your mom should watch this. thats a classic one. hahah if you like that punk sound , theres this up and coming band from san diego called Latex Grenade . look them up. they have a very similar sound.
bunch of fakers them so-called 'religious' folk...
Pennywise have been the best PUNK staple for me... ever....my mom should watch this... don't ask...
come to the East Coast next time you tour guys!!!
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wow bro your pastor said that? thats ridiculous. im a firm believer that we should study the bible for our selves and come to our own conclusions to our beliefs, with prayer. pastors should just be used a a sort of guide.
I agree uncleandy...its not bashing religion..its bashing fake people who make money off of religion. They aren't saying they are atheists, they are saying "Their" God is not the God that forgives sins for money
@chinchek I never said my opinion was "80% fact", I said people are about 80% like what I explained. Plus, I knew you would disagree with me If I commented that, so I could catch you being a hypocrite. ;)
@3s999
If thats your thing, go for it. You do notice we claim to be Sane but have total opposite beliefs. There are MANY atheists who are completely sane. So do you need a God to stay sane?
@903gamefreak
Not enough room for deeper arguments maybe? You can throw myths and beliefs, but i rely on facts. Hense i dont believe in talking snakes, start with that... lol this will be entertaining.
When you make a valid and inteligent comment, we can try to have some arguements about your views and mine. Until then, your ignorance is expressed in your lack of word choice and poorly expressed ways.
When faith is used by an institution it can be turned into something it wasn't even meant to be. I have no problem with people believing in deities, but don't push it down other peoples throats.
so that makes it bad? why is that even part of the discusssion? Like I said..religion cannot be blamed for how the people act on it. Killing in the name of God does not mean He sanctions it.