There's no thing innovative here. It's just a turn radius advantage because of the ultra short wheelbase, but they rode like bucking broncos in the field.
@@MidwestFarmToys Cabs, transmission and hydraulic systems, decent front wheel assist systems, better climate controls.....no I can't see any innovation either.
@@MidwestFarmToys If you'll look at the time period between the early 70's and the early to mid 80's there were massive advancements by almost everyone with the exception of John Deere, they had the 40 and 50 series which were warmed up leftovers of the 30 series tractors and the 20 series combines which were again spoiled leftovers of the 100 series. And let's not go into the hydraulic front assist debacle that Deere brought out in the 70's not to mention the tooth jarring powershift.....grew up in that era and worked on a lot of those models....saw it, been there done that.
exactly…love this brand of old time salesmanship integrity…not hiding anything here…they truly believed in their product and that belief gave you confidence in buying it and AC was a damned good tractor…if they told me that cigarettes and chewing tobacco gave me longevity why hell i’d go out and buy me a ton of each even though i don’t smoke or chew!
We had two 8070s worked the dog crap out of the power shift and it was very well taking care of and we used to pull a 5 shank dmi disk ripper with it. I have a video on my channel. Good tractors just sold it last year wish we still had it!
@@M60A3 ours has the stadium lights option, basically just doubled the lights on it. Dad says was a $1500 option at the time and they are trash, especially by modern day standards.
I think its neat that these prototypes have the 7000 series door entry handles. But then all the rest afterwards have a redesigned square design door entry handle.
thegreenerthemeaner Are you stalking me? lol. Yep Oliver had Allis Chalmers had fwd in 1970. Rubber ido-mounted cabs 1972. The 8000 sales brochure said the innovators offer what others will imitate. The industry copied the pressure and flow compensated hydraulics, the room with a view cab, the hidden drive line mfwd, the quietest cab in the industry,which still stands today.
thegreenerthemeaner I'm proud of you!These were/are very good tractors, i own a couple of them. We switched ours to inline fuel systems, which is much better than the old IH style ambac pumps
RJ 1999 That was 40 years ago I was around that stuff. You are right, 918. They also had a Hough and a huge OLD Michigan loader and a couple of WABCO pans. The Michigan lost a final drive and they traded for the first Tony-Allis I ever saw. The WABCOs were some of the first electric over hydraulic dirt movers produced. I have done Electrical work for the last 27 years and have heard and read about LeTourneau stuff. He was 50 years ahead of his time. Seems that now, dozers and loaders are following Mine Haul trucks and locomotives in going electric. Frequency drives make so much possible in doing this but I still think it is the long way around the barn.
1985 8070 mfwd was a dog. The 20 spd powershift transmission sucked a tremendous amount of power. Also was not a fan of the transmission for the fact that the warning ⚠️ labels stated that the transmission shouldn’t be operated at less than 1750 rpm. Allis dealer also warned us not to push the bunk with it or risk trashing the transmission with constant forwarding and reversing. We never had transmission problems but apparently others did. I liked the cab but it definitely need a better transmission and more power. I wouldn’t recommend it to anyone. I’m not slamming Allis. There’s plenty of Allis tractors that were great. The 8070 just wasn’t one of them.
Unfortunately the innovator is usually the one that goes broke. The copycat doesn't have to go through all the trials and errors that the inventor goes through. I think if AGCO had come out at this time the Allis Chalmers orange would still be going. Deutz Allis wasn't a good merger in the north American market. Back in the 70s and 80s almost every farm in our county was either orange, red or white. Then in the 90s they were all green and now they're all Fendt green
Funny if you really really look at timing of innovation in farm tractors and equipment you'll notice a direct correlation between the demise of several major farm machinery manufactures and the early 1980's recession that led to the demise of thousands of family sized farms . This in turn led to the downfall of these very innovative manufactures . IH , AC , Case and David Brown were all companies that were first to introduce or prototype new advances if farm equipment , and they all fell victim to the demise in farms at this time . Not sure wether it was a matter of luck or knowing what was going to happen with the economy in the early 80's but all John Deere did with their tractors at this time was change the model numbers and put lights in the grill . Smart choice on their part as they rode out the storm and made changes in the mid 90's right when the economy was going good .
Deere basically hibernated during the worst of the 80s, where everyone else was too hopeful that it would get better and tried staying at normal production.
@@J-1410 yes you are correct. One of the salesmen at our local John Deere dealer used to tell the story that JD contacted out one of their factories in the 80's to a company making prefab homes.
Yes but also half of those were bought by other companies case buying ih deutz buying allis chalmers i agree all had their downfalls but also remember half of these companies were bought and made into something new AGCO, CASE IH
It makes me so sick to see these tractors today knowing what farmers around me bought in the era! Gear Grinding 86 Series IH and clunky JDs. I knew a couple "odd ball" farmers who bought AC 8000 series, they were hard using customers and kept these things productive for damn near 30 years! All the IH and JD farmers had been through 3 tractors to the AC guys ONE!!! Too bad AC didn't have the quality of Dealers like IH or JD. If they did we would still see new AC Tractors today! UGH
Ohh man we need to go back to this time it was a time for sure 👍🏻👌🏻
Between Allis and International, they had Deere beat all to pieces, Deere featured warmed over technology in the 80's while the others innovated.
There's no thing innovative here. It's just a turn radius advantage because of the ultra short wheelbase, but they rode like bucking broncos in the field.
@@MidwestFarmToys Cabs, transmission and hydraulic systems, decent front wheel assist systems, better climate controls.....no I can't see any innovation either.
@@Blazefork oh yes. Nobody had those things back then lol.
@@MidwestFarmToys If you'll look at the time period between the early 70's and the early to mid 80's there were massive advancements by almost everyone with the exception of John Deere, they had the 40 and 50 series which were warmed up leftovers of the 30 series tractors and the 20 series combines which were again spoiled leftovers of the 100 series. And let's not go into the hydraulic front assist debacle that Deere brought out in the 70's not to mention the tooth jarring powershift.....grew up in that era and worked on a lot of those models....saw it, been there done that.
@Blazefork what advancement were made during this time?
These were good looking tractors for sure !
Yes sir just shit that Duetz didn't keep em after they bought allis chalmers
@@Jordannelson23 it's a shame.
The previous series looked better
I always loved driving my brother inlaws 6060 those were one hell of a good tractor.
Damn shame allis Chalmers is gone.
Tell me about it
Love The old school intro!! Way cool !!
exactly…love this brand of old time salesmanship integrity…not hiding anything here…they truly believed in their product and that belief gave you confidence in buying it and AC was a damned good tractor…if they told me that cigarettes and chewing tobacco gave me longevity why hell i’d go out and buy me a ton of each even though i don’t smoke or chew!
These were some nice looking tractors
We had two 8070s worked the dog crap out of the power shift and it was very well taking care of and we used to pull a 5 shank dmi disk ripper with it. I have a video on my channel. Good tractors just sold it last year wish we still had it!
Still using our 1982 8010, putting work in year round here in Canada.
My dad OWN one too love love it but the Lights on it sucks at Nights sometimes
@@M60A3 ours has the stadium lights option, basically just doubled the lights on it. Dad says was a $1500 option at the time and they are trash, especially by modern day standards.
@@cerealfamine1 ours don't that's why
@@cerealfamine1 thats easy to increase the lighting power on these..change them out for LED…i know you know that…just sayin
The music on 3:15 is awesome
These tractors are great
We have 2 8050s and a8030
I think its neat that these prototypes have the 7000 series door entry handles. But then all the rest afterwards have a redesigned square design door entry handle.
That overhead visor really pumps my nads.
I've ran the 8070 it was a good tractor just didn't have enough power needed more hp
One of the biggest improvements was the cab.Heat air conditioning radio
Makes a person enjoy farming.
I work for a guy that has nine allis chalmers tractors he has all 8000 series 2wd and front wheel assist
great tractor poor management what a shame love your videos
The innovators offered what others would imitate! More honest words were never spoke, everyone copied these tractors
RJ 1999 Hello again. MM and Oliver introduced cabs mounted on rubber in 1969, offered FWA in the early 60s. Take those off the innovation list.
thegreenerthemeaner Are you stalking me? lol. Yep Oliver had Allis Chalmers had fwd in 1970. Rubber ido-mounted cabs 1972. The 8000 sales brochure said the innovators offer what others will imitate. The industry copied the pressure and flow compensated hydraulics, the room with a view cab, the hidden drive line mfwd, the quietest cab in the industry,which still stands today.
RJ 1999 I am broadening my horizons.
thegreenerthemeaner I'm proud of you!These were/are very good tractors, i own a couple of them. We switched ours to inline fuel systems, which is much better than the old IH style ambac pumps
RJ 1999 That was 40 years ago I was around that stuff. You are right, 918. They also had a Hough and a huge OLD Michigan loader and a couple of WABCO pans. The Michigan lost a final drive and they traded for the first Tony-Allis I ever saw. The WABCOs were some of the first electric over hydraulic dirt movers produced. I have done Electrical work for the last 27 years and have heard and read about LeTourneau stuff. He was 50 years ahead of his time. Seems that now, dozers and loaders are following Mine Haul trucks and locomotives in going electric. Frequency drives make so much possible in doing this but I still think it is the long way around the barn.
I have a catalog for the 8000 series
Where were was the filming location of this film
And I have a allis Chalmers push mower prototype I made
one tractor I want is a 8030
1985 8070 mfwd was a dog. The 20 spd powershift transmission sucked a tremendous amount of power. Also was not a fan of the transmission for the fact that the warning ⚠️ labels stated that the transmission shouldn’t be operated at less than 1750 rpm. Allis dealer also warned us not to push the bunk with it or risk trashing the transmission with constant forwarding and reversing. We never had transmission problems but apparently others did. I liked the cab but it definitely need a better transmission and more power. I wouldn’t recommend it to anyone. I’m not slamming Allis. There’s plenty of Allis tractors that were great. The 8070 just wasn’t one of them.
Are 8070 2wd had more power then are 1586 an about the same as are 5288
This makes me want to run out and pick up an 8030 or an 8050 2wd and fix it up. Only think stopping me is 3 dollar corn.
Unfortunately the innovator is usually the one that goes broke. The copycat doesn't have to go through all the trials and errors that the inventor goes through. I think if AGCO had come out at this time the Allis Chalmers orange would still be going. Deutz Allis wasn't a good merger in the north American market. Back in the 70s and 80s almost every farm in our county was either orange, red or white. Then in the 90s they were all green and now they're all Fendt green
::: i need a tractor :::
First they made steamers and now these things
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👏👏😃
Poor management has ruined many,many equipment manufacturers.
We bought a new 1983 8050 MFD in 87 ....it was nice to drive but nothing reliable compared to the 1066 we traded for it
Funny if you really really look at timing of innovation in farm tractors and equipment you'll notice a direct correlation between the demise of several major farm machinery manufactures and the early 1980's recession that led to the demise of thousands of family sized farms . This in turn led to the downfall of these very innovative manufactures . IH , AC , Case and David Brown were all companies that were first to introduce or prototype new advances if farm equipment , and they all fell victim to the demise in farms at this time . Not sure wether it was a matter of luck or knowing what was going to happen with the economy in the early 80's but all John Deere did with their tractors at this time was change the model numbers and put lights in the grill . Smart choice on their part as they rode out the storm and made changes in the mid 90's right when the economy was going good .
Deere basically hibernated during the worst of the 80s, where everyone else was too hopeful that it would get better and tried staying at normal production.
@@J-1410 yes you are correct. One of the salesmen at our local John Deere dealer used to tell the story that JD contacted out one of their factories in the 80's to a company making prefab homes.
Yes but also half of those were bought by other companies case buying ih deutz buying allis chalmers i agree all had their downfalls but also remember half of these companies were bought and made into something new AGCO, CASE IH
It makes me so sick to see these tractors today knowing what farmers around me bought in the era! Gear Grinding 86 Series IH and clunky JDs. I knew a couple "odd ball" farmers who bought AC 8000 series, they were hard using customers and kept these things productive for damn near 30 years! All the IH and JD farmers had been through 3 tractors to the AC guys ONE!!! Too bad AC didn't have the quality of Dealers like IH or JD. If they did we would still see new AC Tractors today! UGH
Go West Allis 😂