My Dad and I ran a 1968 one ninety that we pulled a 21ft Krause offset disk with. It made quick work of that 400 aces of wheat stubble. Most comfortable tractor we ever ran.
Loved that one, as I have both a one ninety and a one ninety XT. I have probably baled 15,000 big round bales with my XT over about 20 years time. First round baler I had behind it didn't have a good bale kicker, so many times, I had to back up before kicking the bale out. When it was warmed up good, and if I shifted fast, I could go between forward and reverse without stepping on the clutch and stopping the PTO; just with the power director in neutral. I have a net wrap baler now, so it's not as big of a deal, but back when I had twine tie, and it took a while to wrap a bale, it was nice to just have the power director in neutral and not have to sit there with my foot on the clutch while it was tying. Thanks for talking up a tractor that I love, but is bashed by many.
Thanks for sharing your experience on forward and reverse shifting with the Power Director. Even though it was / is a challenging issue, I don't feel like it keeps the tractor from Legendary Status! Glad that you enjoyed the video. Be sure to check out my video on the AC 185, and there is more future Allis stuff in the works, so keep an eye out for that! Thanks for watching!
Early ones had some Planetary problems. Personally, the PTO should have been Independent or Continuous, not the cheat way they did it. For all the Engineering prowess Allis Chalmers possessed, they couldn't make a synchronized transmission for this tractor?
One of my first jobs was at the Allis Chalmers warehouse in Chamblee GA. in the early 80's. We stocked all kinds of promotional stuff for the dealers. Made for great reading back in the day! Good job on the video!
I have now seen you cover half of my dad’s fleet. Nicely done. We used our 190 xt as an auxiliary to our Ford 8000. Live to see a video on the Ford 901 Powermaster, which was a personal favorite of mine.
The farm that I worked on in Mecklenburg during high school and college, had a 901, an 861, an 800, along with a pair of 5610s. I liked those old Powermasters too! At some point I will be doing a video on them!
Dad had an AC 210 (or was it a 220 - I don't remember) and that was a nice tractor. It wasn't the big field tractor but we used it for the lighter field work such as harrowing, planting, etc. Other than the AC needed to be recharged every couple years he never had a trouble with it. For the field tractor Dad had D-21 for many years and traded it in on an AC 7060. All good tractors.
@@LegendaryTractors I'd love to see videos on them. I've thought of trying to track down those tractors, see if I could find any of them and maybe buy them back. But that was over 10 years ago. And Dad took such good care of equipment they were all like new. They never were outside except when they were being used. I'm almost afraid that if I did find one of them it would be a wreck, and I'd rather not know ;)
I worked for a farm that bought a brand new MF 178 to pull a IH 14" 5 bottom, was disappointed, went to an auction and bought a 190XT , didn't even know it had a set of plows behind it! Still going today! loved to D 17! 1969-72
My Dad had a 64 One Ninety & pulled a 5-14" A C plow or a 15' Keewany diskharrow! He had a ruptured disk in his back, but was able to do field work when other work became impossible because of his back! The BIG fuel tank gave him more than he needed for a days work! ONLY once do I remember, on a very COLD winter day, that he couldn't get it started❗
My brother owned Allis Chalmers from the earlier years. Nice tractors. The 190 was featured at the Orange Spectacular back in July. Subscribed because I'm a sucker for old tractors.
Had one of each. Our 190 had the standard PTO and a Snap Coupler, which allowed it to pull the disk that we had for our WD-45. Our 190 XT had the independent PTO and a 3-point hitch, which matched our later tractors.
I was introduced to a WD 45 The morning I went to Drive One home in the Early spring, that my Dad had purchased from a Neighbor..... who went from Farming to running a Gas station.... With it came an 22-22in disk Big K offset..... With The Traction Booster hitch.... At the head lands you turned left, the disk just rolled on top of the soil, the Lift arms would go down.... but when you straighten out down the field on the next pass, ALL HELL BROKE LOOSE,, the governor threw the engine WIDE open, -- both drive tires started spinning the lift arms started applying the Traction, the front end got light and ---- in the blink of an eye--- down the field she went....putting all 3rd gear could deliver....to the ground....... didn't have to use no T.A. or Multi-power.... just hold on..... She l lasted until 1986 when the block cracked between the cylinders and we parked it..... My Son gave it to a neighbor, I imagine it is still parked on his Heirs property......
You would have loved it....!!!!!, Nothing I have seen has ever compared..... I now understand the feeling My Son, Now experiences as the Tree sends his Alcohol fueled , Blown Pro Mod Door slammer Corvette blast down the 1/4 mile...
back in the 70's my father bought a new 190xt we loved the tractor until 8 months later all hydraulics and drive went out dealer warranty had fixed and fine for about 6 months and repeat 3 months later repeat. We finally bit the bullet and took it to our local JD dealer and had them repair (We were friends with owner) 190 went strong for many years after that so that shows either Allis dealer didn't care or not trained properly we never bought another even though we loved the tractors!
Service, and support are one of the factors that I use to determine if a tractor makes it to Legendary Status. Yours is not a typical story that I hear about Allis, and it is a pity that your farm had to deal with something like that. It is awesome that the Deere dealer made it right for you! Thanks for sharing and thanks for watching!
Neighbor had a 7060 that had an engine that couldn't stay together. It was overhauled more than once in a short time. Even had Allis District man in on it. Unofficially it was thought core shift in the block where the liners went in at the bottom. He got rid of it when the block became ventilated in the middle by a rod. Another had a new Gleaner L that put Rasp Bars into Orbit and severely damaged it internally at the start of Corn Harvest. Several early XTs had Planetary issues and kept the 2 area dealers BUSY.
You mention the LP version, I know a gentleman that has one, with snap-coupler hitch and belt pulley! Let's say he has some other 'interesting Orange stuff'!
It would definitely be interesting to know how early that SN was! Which one was your favorite? At some point in the future, my goal is to do videos on the 200,210, 220 etc. Definitely all Legendary Tractors as well!
I appreciate what you're doing with your channel but I don't think you've done your homework when you claim that the 190xt was the top of its class in pulling power. If we go by Nebraska tests the 806D out pulled and grossly out lugged the 190xtD even though more ballast was added to the XT. The 856 as well as the 1850 Oliver beat it by a wider margin. The 806 also beat it with no ballast added. I'd say it's on the lower end of its class in performance. Even the Allis guys I've talked to don't believe they made a truly great muscle tractor until the 220
It's been a while since I made this video so I would have to go back and see what I had to say about it, but I believe what I was referring to was the varying drawbar test which is not even close. (I probably did not look at the 1850 because that certainly has a really great number. Also, the 856 is almost not comparable as it has more HP than the others in my opinion.) What the varying drawbar test really tells you is how much work the tractor is going to get done and when you compare the HP/Hour/Gallon ratings, there really wasn't another tractor that was going to get as much work done as efficiently and as cheaply as the 190XT. All the rest put up some pretty mediocre numbers in comparison. I would have to agree that if you are building a pulling tractor, the XT might not be the best choice. If you want to get some farming done and hopefully make some money in the process, the numbers say that this is the machine for the job especially the Series IV after they got the rear end issues mostly worked out! Thanks for watching and I really appreciate the comment!
@@LegendaryTractors The varying drawbar pull is along with the rest of the Nebraska tests are subjective though. As in the case of vdbp they used 2hi TA on the 806 for some reason which is essentially 11th gear and on the lower end of the 806s max pull pull gears. I don't know anybody who did field work with these tractors in 2hi. Whereas they used 4th gear on the Allis which is its second best performing gear in the max pull test. The amount of ballast they put on tractors for the testing greatly varied so I usually go by draw bar hp and lugging ability which still isn't real world but the closest to real world to me. Also the 856 is widely accepted as the successor and in the same class as the 806 so it should be considered in the same class as the xt since it was produced during the same time period. The next size up for Allis woulda been the D21 and IHs answer to that was the 1256 not the 856
My father was at a sale and it was a really nice 190, he thought he could always use a little more horsepower on the farm in the tractors didn't seem to be selling really high so he stepped in and started the bid on it, then someone stepped out of the way and he noticed the carburetor hanging on the side of it, he quit bidding and hope somebody else would step in, and they did LOL, but I always like the 190s and 190 XT just make sure they're a diesel😅😅
My Dad and I ran a 1968 one ninety that we pulled a 21ft Krause offset disk with. It made quick work of that 400 aces of wheat stubble. Most comfortable tractor we ever ran.
Awesome!
Thanks for watching!
Loved that one, as I have both a one ninety and a one ninety XT. I have probably baled 15,000 big round bales with my XT over about 20 years time. First round baler I had behind it didn't have a good bale kicker, so many times, I had to back up before kicking the bale out. When it was warmed up good, and if I shifted fast, I could go between forward and reverse without stepping on the clutch and stopping the PTO; just with the power director in neutral. I have a net wrap baler now, so it's not as big of a deal, but back when I had twine tie, and it took a while to wrap a bale, it was nice to just have the power director in neutral and not have to sit there with my foot on the clutch while it was tying. Thanks for talking up a tractor that I love, but is bashed by many.
Thanks for sharing your experience on forward and reverse shifting with the Power Director. Even though it was / is a challenging issue, I don't feel like it keeps the tractor from Legendary Status!
Glad that you enjoyed the video. Be sure to check out my video on the AC 185, and there is more future Allis stuff in the works, so keep an eye out for that!
Thanks for watching!
Early ones had some Planetary problems. Personally, the PTO should have been Independent or Continuous, not the cheat way they did it. For all the Engineering prowess Allis Chalmers possessed, they couldn't make a synchronized transmission for this tractor?
I had a 1972 190xt and absolutely loved that tractor.
What's not to love about a tractor with great features, awesome performance, and painted Persian Orange?! Thanks for watching!
One of my first jobs was at the Allis Chalmers warehouse in Chamblee GA. in the early 80's. We stocked all kinds of promotional stuff for the dealers. Made for great reading back in the day! Good job on the video!
Early 80's would have been 6,7, and 8000 series. That is definitely some good reading! Thanks for watching!
I have now seen you cover half of my dad’s fleet. Nicely done. We used our 190 xt as an auxiliary to our Ford 8000. Live to see a video on the Ford 901 Powermaster, which was a personal favorite of mine.
The farm that I worked on in Mecklenburg during high school and college, had a 901, an 861, an 800, along with a pair of 5610s. I liked those old Powermasters too! At some point I will be doing a video on them!
Dad had an AC 210 (or was it a 220 - I don't remember) and that was a nice tractor. It wasn't the big field tractor but we used it for the lighter field work such as harrowing, planting, etc. Other than the AC needed to be recharged every couple years he never had a trouble with it. For the field tractor Dad had D-21 for many years and traded it in on an AC 7060. All good tractors.
All of those are Legendary Tractors and I hope to eventually do videos on them all!
Thanks for watching!
@@LegendaryTractors I'd love to see videos on them. I've thought of trying to track down those tractors, see if I could find any of them and maybe buy them back. But that was over 10 years ago. And Dad took such good care of equipment they were all like new. They never were outside except when they were being used. I'm almost afraid that if I did find one of them it would be a wreck, and I'd rather not know ;)
I worked for a farm that bought a brand new MF 178 to pull a IH 14" 5 bottom, was disappointed, went to an auction and bought a 190XT , didn't even know it had a set of plows behind it! Still going today! loved to D 17! 1969-72
Good story! Thanks for sharing and thanks for watching!
Good video. Thank you.
Thanks for watching!
My Dad had a 64 One Ninety & pulled a 5-14" A C plow or a 15' Keewany diskharrow! He had a ruptured disk in his back, but was able to do field work when other work became impossible because of his back! The BIG fuel tank gave him more than he needed for a days work! ONLY once do I remember, on a very COLD winter day, that he couldn't get it started❗
Great Overview of the AC 190 and AC 190XT Ryan!
Thank you! I really appreciate you taking the time to watch!
My brother owned Allis Chalmers from the earlier years. Nice tractors.
The 190 was featured at the Orange Spectacular back in July.
Subscribed because I'm a sucker for old tractors.
I love tractors in general and old ones in particular! Thanks for watching and subscribing! I really appreciate it!
Just picked up a 190 XT hopefully it ends up being a good tractor but it definitely needs a little bit of TLC
Thank you Sir for posting. Really enjoyed your excellent content.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thanks for watching! Glad you liked it!
Had one of each. Our 190 had the standard PTO and a Snap Coupler, which allowed it to pull the disk that we had for our WD-45. Our 190 XT had the independent PTO and a 3-point hitch, which matched our later tractors.
Double the fun! Always a good thing to have 2 similar tractors!
Thanks for your sharing!
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My stepdad was all Deere but his beloved 190 XT My neighbor growing up was all Alis and my last tractor was a 9655 AGCO Alice
Thanks for watching! Appreciate your comment!
I was introduced to a WD 45 The morning I went to Drive One home in the Early spring, that my Dad had purchased from a Neighbor..... who went from Farming to running a Gas station.... With it came an 22-22in disk Big K offset..... With The Traction Booster hitch.... At the head lands you turned left, the disk just rolled on top of the soil, the Lift arms would go down.... but when you straighten out down the field on the next pass, ALL HELL BROKE LOOSE,, the governor threw the engine WIDE open, -- both drive tires started spinning the lift arms started applying the Traction, the front end got light and ---- in the blink of an eye--- down the field she went....putting all 3rd gear could deliver....to the ground....... didn't have to use no T.A. or Multi-power.... just hold on..... She l lasted until 1986 when the block cracked between the cylinders and we parked it..... My Son gave it to a neighbor, I imagine it is still parked on his Heirs property......
Sounds like a pretty wild ride!
You would have loved it....!!!!!, Nothing I have seen has ever compared..... I now understand the feeling My Son, Now experiences as the Tree sends his Alcohol fueled , Blown Pro Mod Door slammer Corvette blast down the 1/4 mile...
My Dad bought a new 190xt in 1969!! Only problem was it ran hot if you pulled it !! Ran it for several years.
A friend of mine had one for a pulling tractor. He said the same thing, but he had the pump turned up just a tad!!!
@@LegendaryTractors i hear that. they put a different fan on that had more blades and it helped. cut a lot of silage with it……
@@karljacobson1575 I'll bet he didn't run it wide open,
back in the 70's my father bought a new 190xt we loved the tractor until 8 months later all hydraulics and drive went out dealer warranty had fixed and fine for about 6 months and repeat 3 months later repeat. We finally bit the bullet and took it to our local JD dealer and had them repair (We were friends with owner) 190 went strong for many years after that so that shows either Allis dealer didn't care or not trained properly we never bought another even though we loved the tractors!
Service, and support are one of the factors that I use to determine if a tractor makes it to Legendary Status. Yours is not a typical story that I hear about Allis, and it is a pity that your farm had to deal with something like that.
It is awesome that the Deere dealer made it right for you!
Thanks for sharing and thanks for watching!
Neighbor had a 7060 that had an engine that couldn't stay together. It was overhauled more than once in a short time. Even had Allis District man in on it. Unofficially it was thought core shift in the block where the liners went in at the bottom. He got rid of it when the block became ventilated in the middle by a rod.
Another had a new Gleaner L that put Rasp Bars into Orbit and severely damaged it internally at the start of Corn Harvest.
Several early XTs had Planetary issues and kept the 2 area dealers BUSY.
@@thegreenerthemeanerno planetary in the 190
You mention the LP version, I know a gentleman that has one, with snap-coupler hitch and belt pulley! Let's say he has some other 'interesting Orange stuff'!
Dad bought a 190D pretty early. The serial number was a bunch of zeros and a 3. I had an XT. I also had a 210 and a 200.
It would definitely be interesting to know how early that SN was!
Which one was your favorite?
At some point in the future, my goal is to do videos on the 200,210, 220 etc. Definitely all Legendary Tractors as well!
93 HP if the fuel filters were plugged
Under promise - over deliver!!! Helps to make a tractor Legendary! Thanks for watching!
@@LegendaryTractors that was the Allis Chalmers moto
Nice video. I'm a Case guy, but very interesting content 👍
Glad you liked it! I have a video on the 970 and 1070 tractors if you are interested. Also planning on some future Case stuff, so keep an eye out!
@@LegendaryTractors heck yeah! I subscribed to your channel so I'll get a notification 👍. Thanks
Well nobody's perfect
Nice video Ryan
Glad you enjoyed it!
I appreciate what you're doing with your channel but I don't think you've done your homework when you claim that the 190xt was the top of its class in pulling power. If we go by Nebraska tests the 806D out pulled and grossly out lugged the 190xtD even though more ballast was added to the XT. The 856 as well as the 1850 Oliver beat it by a wider margin. The 806 also beat it with no ballast added. I'd say it's on the lower end of its class in performance. Even the Allis guys I've talked to don't believe they made a truly great muscle tractor until the 220
It's been a while since I made this video so I would have to go back and see what I had to say about it, but I believe what I was referring to was the varying drawbar test which is not even close. (I probably did not look at the 1850 because that certainly has a really great number. Also, the 856 is almost not comparable as it has more HP than the others in my opinion.)
What the varying drawbar test really tells you is how much work the tractor is going to get done and when you compare the HP/Hour/Gallon ratings, there really wasn't another tractor that was going to get as much work done as efficiently and as cheaply as the 190XT. All the rest put up some pretty mediocre numbers in comparison.
I would have to agree that if you are building a pulling tractor, the XT might not be the best choice. If you want to get some farming done and hopefully make some money in the process, the numbers say that this is the machine for the job especially the Series IV after they got the rear end issues mostly worked out!
Thanks for watching and I really appreciate the comment!
@@LegendaryTractors The varying drawbar pull is along with the rest of the Nebraska tests are subjective though. As in the case of vdbp they used 2hi TA on the 806 for some reason which is essentially 11th gear and on the lower end of the 806s max pull pull gears. I don't know anybody who did field work with these tractors in 2hi. Whereas they used 4th gear on the Allis which is its second best performing gear in the max pull test. The amount of ballast they put on tractors for the testing greatly varied so I usually go by draw bar hp and lugging ability which still isn't real world but the closest to real world to me. Also the 856 is widely accepted as the successor and in the same class as the 806 so it should be considered in the same class as the xt since it was produced during the same time period. The next size up for Allis woulda been the D21 and IHs answer to that was the 1256 not the 856
My father was at a sale and it was a really nice 190, he thought he could always use a little more horsepower on the farm in the tractors didn't seem to be selling really high so he stepped in and started the bid on it, then someone stepped out of the way and he noticed the carburetor hanging on the side of it, he quit bidding and hope somebody else would step in, and they did LOL, but I always like the 190s and 190 XT just make sure they're a diesel😅😅