Great list as always, and I agree on your assessment of the RM-70 in particular, I see a lot of more skilled players than yours truly fielding these in team games. In general I feel WARNO is in a good state now, do not mind the current meta. And I cannot wait for the NORTHTAG DLC, especially getting the chance to field the Heinz Hoffmann division in game. Hopefully this division will do good so I can continue my "feud" with Bandanner regarding the beautiful T-72 tank having some facts that man cannot refute😆
I think the BM24 is better than people think. Comparing it with the Grad, it fires its salvo in 22s versus 19.5s, not much easier to Dodge. I compared the expected damage calculating [number of rockets] * [damage per rocket] * [arrea affected (meaning damage radius squared)] using Waryes Data and the BM24 has about 1/4 higher suppression and about 46% higher damage, while using less supply. I would not use it against vehicles or AA, that is what you have the BM30 for, but for storming a City/forrest it will help your inf a lot. Just block the Road with nap Grad and the enemy will have a hard time defending against your inf swarm. I am not saying it is better than the Grad, having lower range, longer aim- and reloadtime and a being more expensive, but it can find a place in KDA as an anti-inf weapon that hits more than one building at a time and does not have the insane reloadtime of the nap Grad.
Жду тирлист авиации, пехотных юнитов, танков и вертолётов. По-моему артиллерия это единственный тирлист где красные юниты занимают все топовые позиции.
So I'm just going to think out loud here, and give you my feedback on this tier list format. I think it does a great job of clarifying nuances, it's a very granular way to analyze and compare units, but there's a bit of "storytelling" that I feel is lacking; What I mean by this is it's usually hard to follow every unit change when you go from country to country, without much order. But what I really liked about this video is how the artillery are paired into clone-unit stats, so you don't talk about Clone A in minute 1 of the video and Clone B in minute 15. I think artillery is perfect for a tier-list like this, because they kind of already are tiered by mortars, 122s, 155s etc, but it gets really confusing when you're comparing the twelve million different BMP variants lmao
So the list in this video is structured by faction first, then its paired up by clones, but there's some inconsistencies in the internal logic; the first two artillery pieces you show are stationary artillery, then there's the entire rest of the mobile artillery and MLRSes before you get back to showing the towed artillery. It's not too big of a problem, but I got confused early on because I love the Giatsint, I just never use static artillery so I didn't know there even was a towed version lol
Thanks for this quality feedback :) Will keep it in mind for future tier lists. Tbh the tier list this time was ordered by nomenclature + clones put together.
Град-В ситуативно может оказываться лучше всех других градов в игре, просто потому-что у него перезарядка 72 секунды, под командиром он стреляет каждую минуту, пачка из четырёх таких градов может подавлять районы слишком часто.
@@stalin_2283 1 залп из 4х градов V стоит 960 очков, один Ми-26 несёт 6000 очков, в итоге после покупки 4х градовВ и Ми-26 у тебя есть в запасе 6+1 залпов, это ощутимо даже в игре 1х1, а в массовых играх как минимум - чувствуется.
I will not completely agree with this list for reasons there are several types of artillery Tactical artillery range under 10Km, to use then like mortars, but they are better then mortars medium artillery 10-24 km it is intended to attack infantry and armor, but primarily infantry and it works quite well long-range artillery 30km+, the main purpose is not an attack on infantry but a counterbattery, yes you can deal with a cluster of infantry and armor, especially with rocket launchers, but ... and if you create an artillery group, you can literally influence the game in multiplayer And artillery is more effective than helicopters and planes
Completely disagree on towed 152s. Two of them can easily one shot most of the stuff and route most of the tanks. IMO they should be B at least. But maybe im just weird but I play them a lot. Also 130 is not that bad. Anything below is pure garbage and doesnt matter how fast it shoots.
@@stalin_2283 Strictly true, but the keyword here is "game". Gaming should be fun, if everyone just sits in a corner firing artillery against each other there is not much fun to be had. And in a good game you can bet your life that one idiot who only buys arty at the start is on your team..😆
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Great list as always, and I agree on your assessment of the RM-70 in particular, I see a lot of more skilled players than yours truly fielding these in team games. In general I feel WARNO is in a good state now, do not mind the current meta. And I cannot wait for the NORTHTAG DLC, especially getting the chance to field the Heinz Hoffmann division in game. Hopefully this division will do good so I can continue my "feud" with Bandanner regarding the beautiful T-72 tank having some facts that man cannot refute😆
Came for the tierlist, stayed for the voice cracks 🔥 🔥
No hate 🥰
yeah, my vocal cords haven't fully recovered from the cold I caught last week.
I think the BM24 is better than people think. Comparing it with the Grad, it fires its salvo in 22s versus 19.5s, not much easier to Dodge.
I compared the expected damage calculating [number of rockets] * [damage per rocket] * [arrea affected (meaning damage radius squared)] using Waryes Data and the BM24 has about 1/4 higher suppression and about 46% higher damage, while using less supply.
I would not use it against vehicles or AA, that is what you have the BM30 for, but for storming a City/forrest it will help your inf a lot. Just block the Road with nap Grad and the enemy will have a hard time defending against your inf swarm.
I am not saying it is better than the Grad, having lower range, longer aim- and reloadtime and a being more expensive, but it can find a place in KDA as an anti-inf weapon that hits more than one building at a time and does not have the insane reloadtime of the nap Grad.
I always anxiously await your next tier list videos. Thank you!
I like the Abbot from a cost and quantity standpoint. It's the cheapest gun on tracks with some armor
Жду тирлист авиации, пехотных юнитов, танков и вертолётов. По-моему артиллерия это единственный тирлист где красные юниты занимают все топовые позиции.
The 240mm mortars are not like mortars ;)
true, I forgot about them. Well they will be in the mortar tierlist eventually :P
Just like the nonas :D
So I'm just going to think out loud here, and give you my feedback on this tier list format.
I think it does a great job of clarifying nuances, it's a very granular way to analyze and compare units, but there's a bit of "storytelling" that I feel is lacking;
What I mean by this is it's usually hard to follow every unit change when you go from country to country, without much order.
But what I really liked about this video is how the artillery are paired into clone-unit stats, so you don't talk about Clone A in minute 1 of the video and Clone B in minute 15.
I think artillery is perfect for a tier-list like this, because they kind of already are tiered by mortars, 122s, 155s etc, but it gets really confusing when you're comparing the twelve million different BMP variants lmao
So the list in this video is structured by faction first, then its paired up by clones, but there's some inconsistencies in the internal logic; the first two artillery pieces you show are stationary artillery, then there's the entire rest of the mobile artillery and MLRSes before you get back to showing the towed artillery. It's not too big of a problem, but I got confused early on because I love the Giatsint, I just never use static artillery so I didn't know there even was a towed version lol
Thanks for this quality feedback :)
Will keep it in mind for future tier lists.
Tbh the tier list this time was ordered by nomenclature + clones put together.
Град-В ситуативно может оказываться лучше всех других градов в игре, просто потому-что у него перезарядка 72 секунды, под командиром он стреляет каждую минуту, пачка из четырёх таких градов может подавлять районы слишком часто.
У тебя тупо снабжения не хватит
@@stalin_2283 1 залп из 4х градов V стоит 960 очков, один Ми-26 несёт 6000 очков, в итоге после покупки 4х градовВ и Ми-26 у тебя есть в запасе 6+1 залпов, это ощутимо даже в игре 1х1, а в массовых играх как минимум - чувствуется.
I will not completely agree with this list
for reasons
there are several types of artillery
Tactical artillery range under 10Km, to use then like mortars, but they are better then mortars
medium artillery 10-24 km
it is intended to attack infantry and armor, but primarily infantry and it works quite well
long-range artillery 30km+, the main purpose is not an attack on infantry but a counterbattery, yes you can deal with a cluster of infantry and armor, especially with rocket launchers, but ...
and if you create an artillery group, you can literally influence the game in multiplayer
And artillery is more effective than helicopters and planes
Hes putting burrito and 2s3m1 at D tier lol, these units might be situational, but really effective with right doctrine.
Completely disagree on towed 152s. Two of them can easily one shot most of the stuff and route most of the tanks. IMO they should be B at least. But maybe im just weird but I play them a lot. Also 130 is not that bad. Anything below is pure garbage and doesnt matter how fast it shoots.
Burratino going from one of the best units in the game to a D tier unit is so tragic
What??? One Corr akatsya destroy 1 tank like abrams,from 3-4 shooting it is the best arty in game
Putting the Buratino(burrito🌮) in bottom tier should be a crime......
burrito time
the tierlists are focused towards 1v1.
I just want the best for the burrito!
BURRATA
I think arty ruins the game (currently) in anything more than 2v2
I agree, arty is often cancerous to the gameplay in 10v10s which I play the most.
You play in game that want to be a game with a high realism , artillery in reality is the god of war
@@stalin_2283 Strictly true, but the keyword here is "game". Gaming should be fun, if everyone just sits in a corner firing artillery against each other there is not much fun to be had. And in a good game you can bet your life that one idiot who only buys arty at the start is on your team..😆
@@Fedda75 buy just arty is not useful.but not buy arty too.i think this gameplay is interesting.not just tanks versus tanks and infantry vs infantry
@@stalin_2283 Yeah, you need arty for counter battery fire, killing MANPADS and ATGM teams and rooting out entrenched enemies.