T-34/B5M clearly S tier, the Stalintanium just makes it's invincible. T-80U and T-80UD, I won't lie as a mainly British player I actually dread those tanks, I learned the hard way about the T-80U/UDs when playing operations as well. In fact the Abram HA as well I remember on that certain soviet operation mission and ever since I have learned to give it a healthy respect.
@@crispy3AD Ok, nice to know, thanks. But, still, 60/50% when Leo and Abrams and the Reserve N.G Abrams get 65/60% accuracy is dog, especially the Reservist Abrams. The Challenger's should at least have higher accuracy to make up for their lack of numbers available in 1st Arm. and 2nd Inf., would make versing them an interesting dynamic compared to Leo and Abrams who have slightly better RoF, use Chally's more as ambush tanks, idk.
@@PottyPirateXXIII_IXchallenger holds the world record for the longest range tank kill in real life. But hey realism has never been WARNOs strong point.
The M551 Sheridan comes from a failed attempt to add a gun-launcher to tanks. It is the first tank to shoot missiles from the cannon, like a lot of Soviet tanks do in game. IRL, the Shillelagh missile had severe reliability issues, including the cannon knocking out the missile guidance system (from shock) whenever it fired standard shells, and a tendency to "sweat" in humid environments (Nitroglycerine "sweating" out of the propellent is VERY dangerous)
@bradleycavalier1311 indeed. It was a very technologically advanced tank in the 1960s. By 1989, it was obsolete and a maintenance nightmare. There is a reason it was decommissioned in the 1990s.
@@trevynlane8094 that sounds like army maintenance for you, designs either last a year, or a hundred. And know one thinks about maintenance hours. Have you seen the photo from Panama, with one of them on a pallet crushing a Humvee! Lol. The tank would lift off it's first two road wheels if firing HE forward, and broadsides where discourage due to possible flipping. But check that last one, as idk.
@bradleycavalier1311 indeed. It was too light for its own good. They installed the same gun-launcher on a prototype M60 hull and eliminated the shock and stability issues, but could never solve the "sweating" missiles issue.
This is such a great tierlist, especially for a tank geek like myself, keep these kind of videos coming! PS! You should check out the early access tank sim "Gunner, HEAT, PC" which is coming along nicely.
The rarden is in a neigh unfixable state. If you made it cheap enough to be worth it it'd be spammable, but if you kept the unit count low it'd never be worth taking. So it's likely never gonna be worth it to card. Supposedly the turret removes troop carrying space. Unless it is like 25 points it won't be worth taking vs the amx-30b.
Is this a measure of just strength in a head up match or other factors important like versatility and cost efficiency? If it’s the latter I would say the 2A3 belongs in S tier. At 235 points you can get one every tick and they can won’t usually out duel an Abrams but the stabilized gun accuracy and speed of those tanks is just nuts. They are also pretty survivable with good armor.
@@crispy3AD Go make yourself a mod, give the Challenger the same RoF as Abrams and Leo2, then see who wins more often with the accuracy difference. Why do Leo and Abrams get 65% and 60% and 9RPM and Chally gets 60% and 50% and 8RPM? Even the N.G. Abrams with the Reservist trait, made of so called second-rate crew has better accuracy and RoF lol. Being a whole second slower and having 10% less on more and 5% less stationary it's enough that everyone knows the Chally is dog@#$%, that's why he ranked the Chally so low, I'd put it in D tier personally. As you might know, the Challenger 1's and 2's with all their different Mk's were and are peers of the Abrams and Leo and it's not reflected in this game. Why do I need to have 1 Vet training to equal an untrained Abrams or Leo. TLDR lmao
In real life challengers hold the word record for longest range tank kill and were known as acute. So it would be a logical and fun buff, but I suspect they will never do it.
This game glories ruskie tanks waaaaayyy too much. After 2 years of seeing ruskie tanks turning into the tank turret space programs by $400 drones in the war, it’s insulting to see them resisting so much damage in Warno.
Well the setting is 35 years ago and the sovjet t80 still might be superior to the modern russian T90 (upgraded T72). I dont think that Sovjet armor of the time is particularly glorified, T62s and T55s are as beatable as they should be. Sovjetunion ain't modern day Russia, they were a good bit more powerful and structured. Also, most Tanks in Ukraine get destroyed by other Sovjetunion era equipment, saying little about the superiority of West or East.
@@sd_league soviet vehicles in the game are too good. russian tanks have so many flaws that are not implemented, it makes them as good as NATO-Top Tier tanks which they are not by a long shot. Their mobility is poor, their reverse speed in extremely poor to a degree, it would change tactics in game drastically. If you served in western tank and then talk to people who served in T72, you will know.
@@KBKriechbaum while I agree their is soviet bias in Warno I don't think its as much as some say excluding the Ukraine war which is being fought between 2 countries on a fairly level playing field. In my opinion most Soviet equipment that has seen action has against NATO stuff has often been either outdated or stuff the soviets built as stop gaps while they made better stuff T-62 and T-72 as examples due to this they were made with less high tech stuff while the better T-64 and T-80 were given more stuff as they were the real replacements not the stop gaps. _ Also most of the Equipment the Soviets sold to other countries was the Stop gap Equipment due to this conflicts such as the gulf war and Libya didn't have a technological advantage with their equipment like NATO stuff did and in desert storm they achieved air superiority in iraq and destroyed their ability to respond allowing NATO to rain hell on iraq troops Imagine if people fought NATO equipment was bad because the country using it had M60s as their main battle tank and 104 star fighters as their main air wings compared to the opposing side using T-80s and MIG 29s and SU-27s as fighters while SU-25s rained hell down due to them destroying their air defense with masterful planing. _ _ PS I also agree that reserve speed for soviet tanks is to high.
I can't use the French armour well, I prefer armour that can sit and fight and does not require too many precise movements. The French tanks need to shoot and move much more than other factions do.
@@sd_league i make motorcycle content. you really have to play the game if you want any views too. Edit: the clickbait or whatever titles. Which this isn't imo. It's literally what the video is lol.
This is the ideal side content while playing Warno.
Haha, Thank you.
Loving your content too, esp the naval/space ship stuff. :)
Love this content. Thanks for putting your perspective out there like this.
I am glad you enjoy it. :)
T-34/B5M clearly S tier, the Stalintanium just makes it's invincible.
T-80U and T-80UD, I won't lie as a mainly British player I actually dread those tanks, I learned the hard way about the T-80U/UDs when playing operations as well. In fact the Abram HA as well I remember on that certain soviet operation mission and ever since I have learned to give it a healthy respect.
Its not a War Thunder Tierlist ;)
@@sd_league Indeed. I agree with the List especially with the placement of the Abram HA and the T-80U and T-80UD.
Its called t34/85m
@@jonaskupfer5491 Your right, misread it as B instead of 8.
give it a healthy amount of respect by gifting it as much firepower as possible
The Rarden is comical at 40 points, it should be 30. But I love the chieftains, they feel really cost efficient like the T62s and AMX30B2's and M60
Poor Chally 1 mk2 :( needs its 27 front armour!
Yes, the National Guard Abrams made of so called second rate crew, still have better accuracy and RoF than trained Challengers... BALANCE!
@@PottyPirateXXIII_IX the challenger has two piece ammunition which takes longer to reload
@@crispy3AD Ok, nice to know, thanks. But, still, 60/50% when Leo and Abrams and the Reserve N.G Abrams get 65/60% accuracy is dog, especially the Reservist Abrams. The Challenger's should at least have higher accuracy to make up for their lack of numbers available in 1st Arm. and 2nd Inf., would make versing them an interesting dynamic compared to Leo and Abrams who have slightly better RoF, use Chally's more as ambush tanks, idk.
@@PottyPirateXXIII_IXchallenger holds the world record for the longest range tank kill in real life. But hey realism has never been WARNOs strong point.
@@crispy3AD2 piece really doesn’t take that much longer to reload with a trained crew
i wish the challengers kept their old stats 😄they used to be really fun with 20 ap 20 armour
For real bro they actually stood a chance against t-80 bv’s now if you get hit with the first atgm you always lose
@@Yakob135I had two Challengers lose to a BMP 1 yesterday, they got suppressed and rate of fire and accuracy went to terrible.
@@rcmwalker1987 they're so bad 😄 even if they keep the gun at 18 ap at least give it 65% acc
The M551 Sheridan comes from a failed attempt to add a gun-launcher to tanks. It is the first tank to shoot missiles from the cannon, like a lot of Soviet tanks do in game. IRL, the Shillelagh missile had severe reliability issues, including the cannon knocking out the missile guidance system (from shock) whenever it fired standard shells, and a tendency to "sweat" in humid environments (Nitroglycerine "sweating" out of the propellent is VERY dangerous)
But it is the first serviceable airborne tank, that was airdroped in combat.
@bradleycavalier1311 indeed. It was a very technologically advanced tank in the 1960s. By 1989, it was obsolete and a maintenance nightmare. There is a reason it was decommissioned in the 1990s.
@@trevynlane8094 that sounds like army maintenance for you, designs either last a year, or a hundred. And know one thinks about maintenance hours.
Have you seen the photo from Panama, with one of them on a pallet crushing a Humvee! Lol. The tank would lift off it's first two road wheels if firing HE forward, and broadsides where discourage due to possible flipping. But check that last one, as idk.
@bradleycavalier1311 indeed. It was too light for its own good. They installed the same gun-launcher on a prototype M60 hull and eliminated the shock and stability issues, but could never solve the "sweating" missiles issue.
This is such a great tierlist, especially for a tank geek like myself, keep these kind of videos coming! PS! You should check out the early access tank sim "Gunner, HEAT, PC" which is coming along nicely.
The rarden is in a neigh unfixable state. If you made it cheap enough to be worth it it'd be spammable, but if you kept the unit count low it'd never be worth taking. So it's likely never gonna be worth it to card. Supposedly the turret removes troop carrying space. Unless it is like 25 points it won't be worth taking vs the amx-30b.
It was with taking at 30 p before it got nerfed. For no reason.
Is this a measure of just strength in a head up match or other factors important like versatility and cost efficiency? If it’s the latter I would say the 2A3 belongs in S tier. At 235 points you can get one every tick and they can won’t usually out duel an Abrams but the stabilized gun accuracy and speed of those tanks is just nuts. They are also pretty survivable with good armor.
I explain it why its "just A tier". Side armor and low HE dmg, but yeah its AMAZING as a tank killer.
You can make your own tierlist here:
tiermaker.com/create/warno-tank-tierlist--17382515
looking forward to see your takes on the Discord :)
THANK YOU IF ITS NOT TOO MUCH TROUBLE ONE FOR AIR CRAFT WOULD BE AMAZING!!
Will you make a full division tier list?
Did one in June, usually try to space them out a bit, will do one after the next big patch :)
Dont wanna burn everyone out on my tierlist videos ;)
I think you should have stat card of the tank you are talking about next to the tier list so it would be easier to point out differences
ha is the goat
More videos like this please!!
Hey sd league (like thats even your real NAME) WHAT ABOUT THE M 1 A 1 A C A V cant believe you actually forgot it lol
If Challenger accuracy was on par or like 5 or 10% above Abrams accuracy it could be an arguably good trade off for better accuracy over the bad RoF
10% bro lmao
@@crispy3AD Go make yourself a mod, give the Challenger the same RoF as Abrams and Leo2, then see who wins more often with the accuracy difference.
Why do Leo and Abrams get 65% and 60% and 9RPM and Chally gets 60% and 50% and 8RPM?
Even the N.G. Abrams with the Reservist trait, made of so called second-rate crew has better accuracy and RoF lol.
Being a whole second slower and having 10% less on more and 5% less stationary it's enough that everyone knows the Chally is dog@#$%, that's why he ranked the Chally so low, I'd put it in D tier personally.
As you might know, the Challenger 1's and 2's with all their different Mk's were and are peers of the Abrams and Leo and it's not reflected in this game. Why do I need to have 1 Vet training to equal an untrained Abrams or Leo.
TLDR lmao
@@PottyPirateXXIII_IX they arent going to give any tank a base of 75% acc
@@PottyPirateXXIII_IX two piece ammo is slower
In real life challengers hold the word record for longest range tank kill and were known as acute. So it would be a logical and fun buff, but I suspect they will never do it.
So where would you put all the new NG M60s?
they seem quite good, but havent played them enough to really rank them yet.
Where is the AB M1025 HUMVEE TOW (the best American tank)?
Only units classified as tank by the game allowed! No at and no CV vehicles!
Where M1A1 ACAV?
not in the tank tab ;)
Challenger tanks need a buff, they're not represented good enough in WARNO.
Should have slightly better armour than a base M1A1 and should have a better gun than it does 2 piece doesn’t make you 1 second slower than NG units
This game glories ruskie tanks waaaaayyy too much. After 2 years of seeing ruskie tanks turning into the tank turret space programs by $400 drones in the war, it’s insulting to see them resisting so much damage in Warno.
Well the setting is 35 years ago and the sovjet t80 still might be superior to the modern russian T90 (upgraded T72). I dont think that Sovjet armor of the time is particularly glorified, T62s and T55s are as beatable as they should be. Sovjetunion ain't modern day Russia, they were a good bit more powerful and structured. Also, most Tanks in Ukraine get destroyed by other Sovjetunion era equipment, saying little about the superiority of West or East.
@@sd_league soviet vehicles in the game are too good. russian tanks have so many flaws that are not implemented, it makes them as good as NATO-Top Tier tanks which they are not by a long shot. Their mobility is poor, their reverse speed in extremely poor to a degree, it would change tactics in game drastically. If you served in western tank and then talk to people who served in T72, you will know.
@@KBKriechbaum while I agree their is soviet bias in Warno I don't think its as much as some say excluding the Ukraine war which is being fought between 2 countries on a fairly level playing field.
In my opinion most Soviet equipment that has seen action has against NATO stuff has often been either outdated or stuff the soviets built as stop gaps while they made better stuff T-62 and T-72 as examples due to this they were made with less high tech stuff while the better T-64 and T-80 were given more stuff as they were the real replacements not the stop gaps. _ Also most of the Equipment the Soviets sold to other countries was the Stop gap Equipment due to this conflicts such as the gulf war and Libya didn't have a technological advantage with their equipment like NATO stuff did and in desert storm they achieved air superiority in iraq and destroyed their ability to respond allowing NATO to rain hell on iraq troops Imagine if people fought NATO equipment was bad because the country using it had M60s as their main battle tank and 104 star fighters as their main air wings compared to the opposing side using T-80s and MIG 29s and SU-27s as fighters while SU-25s rained hell down due to them destroying their air defense with masterful planing. _ _
PS I also agree that reserve speed for soviet tanks is to high.
amx sucks
which one? ^^
Or do you not like the company?
I can't use the French armour well, I prefer armour that can sit and fight and does not require too many precise movements. The French tanks need to shoot and move much more than other factions do.
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Pact suffer
Well its youtube ;)
@@sd_league i make motorcycle content. you really have to play the game if you want any views too. Edit: the clickbait or whatever titles. Which this isn't imo. It's literally what the video is lol.
Where is AMX 10RC??