8 incredible racing cars that never raced

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 มิ.ย. 2024
  • A staggering amount. of money goest into creating, designing, building racing cars. And another incredible amount of cash is lost on those machines that, after a full development cycle, never actually made it to the track. But it happens. a lot more than you think.
    There have been plenty of sportscars, F1 cars, rally cars and more that were created with the purpose of conquering the world, but ended up just sitting gathering dust, and these are eight of our favourites.
    Timestamps
    00:00 Intro
    00:46 Alfa Romeo SE 048SP
    02:26 Porsche LMP2000
    04:24 Peugeot 908 Hybrid 4
    06:09 McLaren MP4-18
    07:59 Lancia ECV
    10:05 Deltawing Indycar
    11:48 Toyota TF110
    13:05 Volkswagen Polo WRC
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  • @GoodwoodRR
    @GoodwoodRR  ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Which one would you most like to see in action?

    • @TheRUBrally
      @TheRUBrally ปีที่แล้ว +9

      all Group S cars 😁

    • @DetroitMicroSound
      @DetroitMicroSound ปีที่แล้ว

      Bill Thomas's Cheetah! ......And for the future, an ELECTRIC CHEETAH!!!!

    • @elonmusk9697
      @elonmusk9697 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wasn't Group S were the cars would have gone up to 800 HP but they canceled it due to the fatalities?
      Never heard of a Group S with just 300 HP. That's what Group A is..

    • @muhamadhzz
      @muhamadhzz ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No Ferrari F50 GT? :(

    • @greebo7857
      @greebo7857 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's easy.*_LANCIA_*

  • @BrainFuck10
    @BrainFuck10 ปีที่แล้ว +169

    I think it's also worth mentioning the Lancia ECV 2 as it was the pinnacle of Lancia engineering, same chassis and engine but better aerodynamics and better weight distribution than the original ECV

    • @JD-eo7dr
      @JD-eo7dr ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Fun fact ECV was Experimental Carbon Vehicle edit Composite 🤦

    • @afoxwithahat7846
      @afoxwithahat7846 ปีที่แล้ว

      and that thing looked terrifying XD

    • @phrodendekia
      @phrodendekia ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Best looking Delta of all. Menacing thing. And the red is just 🔥

    • @castericky
      @castericky ปีที่แล้ว

      Not the sane engine

  • @Tyindel
    @Tyindel ปีที่แล้ว +101

    A note on group S. Prior to the fatalities that ended Group B, the Group S regulations would have opened the engines up significantly with a number of unraced prototypes running in the 800hp range. The regulations mentioned in the video were as a last ditch effort to try and save Group S that also failed which is why there are so many Group S prototypes out there from different manufacturers

    • @marisechristmas9897
      @marisechristmas9897 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      800hp+ rally cars that long ago sounds like a comically terrible idea and if not for the numerous bystander fatalities that would have doubtlessly caused I would have loved to see how that worked out.
      Are there any rally video games or something that feature rally cars so outrageously overtuned?

    • @effisjens1776
      @effisjens1776 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@marisechristmas9897 if you want to play with group S rally cars, to my knowledge, take a steer into Gravel (has the toyota, Opel and Lancia ECV1). I believe this is the only game that features these without mods

  • @sebastian_berlin
    @sebastian_berlin ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I think another honourable mention would be the 2021 BMW M4 DTM after the Class One Regulations. It was developed, but after DTM went to become a GT3 Championship it never got to be raced. At least it found its way into Simracing.

  • @davidpryor9489
    @davidpryor9489 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    According to Adrian Newry, the MP4-19 was just the MP4-18 with the 8 changed to a 9, and the reason the car didn't work till the mid 2004 season "B" spec was because McLaren didn't listen to him about a package redesign that should have been done to the 18 in late 2003 but the rest of the aero team said it could work without the time and cost of a redesign. I think Newey was right and should have been listed too as he'd be off to Red Bull Racing in part due to not being respected correctly.

  • @NemiXisRevo
    @NemiXisRevo ปีที่แล้ว +8

    For anyone that would like to see the Toyota TF110 up close, it's displayed with some other rarities (The first Jordan-Ford F1 car Schumacher raced on, a Dakar Volkswagen Touareg, a 919 Hybrid, the uber-rare Audi R8R LMP Proto, etc) at Automuseum PROTOYP in Hamburg, Germany! :)

  • @jez_77
    @jez_77 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Knowing Lancia they would probably just stop somewhere in the Monte Carlo mountains and quickly turn that engine up to full 600bhp

    • @Noise-Bomb
      @Noise-Bomb ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Or some toyota style air restrictor shenanigans :D

    • @MasterOfTruck
      @MasterOfTruck ปีที่แล้ว

      yeah you really cant say something sketchy wasnt gonna be afoot when they built it to have double the competing horsepower requirement.

  • @christopherc7075
    @christopherc7075 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    I kinda wished Toyota had the chance to race the 22D, it would have been cool to see later versions of the MR2/MRS in rally spec, even just for RWD specific rallies.

  • @C64SX
    @C64SX ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Almost criminal levels of negligence leaving out the very beautiful Jaguar XJ13.

  • @vintageman91
    @vintageman91 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The amount of group b/group S cars that was never used could fill this list over 4 times over.

  • @WallabeeBe4tles
    @WallabeeBe4tles ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I wish the 288 GTO Evo raced

  • @Str3ss3dpo3t654
    @Str3ss3dpo3t654 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Sad to not see the koenigsegg CCGT on this list as it wouldve been an absolutely dominant car had it been able to race

    • @deborahpriestley4739
      @deborahpriestley4739 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's still the best looking Koenigsegg even to this day. I think it could have done well if I had a chance to enter competition.

  • @llmkursk8254
    @llmkursk8254 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The lot of Group S and Group B prototypes that never raced is fascinating and intriguing. The 190e was originally conceived as a Group B car, there was an Alfa, the Porsche 959, a collaboration between Daihatsu and DeTomaso, all for Group B. Mazda also had a Group S prototype in the works!

  • @kimnorberg9783
    @kimnorberg9783 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Also Peugeot 905 evo2, successor of the top group c machine.

    • @hexgraphica
      @hexgraphica ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It did only one race, Magny Cours 500 SWC 1992

    • @GoodwoodRR
      @GoodwoodRR  ปีที่แล้ว

      Ah, the supercopter

  • @MrWolf-xk8sl
    @MrWolf-xk8sl ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lancia for life ❤️

  • @owpwk7577
    @owpwk7577 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Peugeot 905 Evo 2 supercopter
    It was ahead of it's time

  • @waters1801
    @waters1801 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I really like these videos and the narrator has a very pleasing voice as well!

  • @Marvdogger2
    @Marvdogger2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The Group S regs were never fully signed off on which is why the manufactures were building cars with power alot higher than 300bhp.

  • @TheOli123440
    @TheOli123440 ปีที่แล้ว

    The prospect of VW competing in the WRC for 2017 was so exciting for me. I was so gutted when they announced they were pulling the plug. Still, all the test footage of the car is awesome to see.

  • @mattiouvinen9138
    @mattiouvinen9138 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    How about the Williams FW15C? The version with a CVT transmission that was banned before they ever raced it.

  • @sagitta9891
    @sagitta9891 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wish I could drive those cars on SIm-racing games. The idea of driving a cars that been canceled or forgotten by time is really amusing.

  • @Megus_Degus
    @Megus_Degus ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So well put together and informative!
    I would have love to seen the Porsche no doubt!

  • @barondegil1
    @barondegil1 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Alfa Romeo simply amazing beautiful!

  • @christopherc7075
    @christopherc7075 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Also, I know the Deltawing had a bit of a peculiar shape, but to a more innocent eye, I thought they resembled retro-futurisitc/airstreamer concepts of the 50s and 60s. Would have been nice to see a limited series testing alternative fuels, with a "car of the future, today" styled theme

    • @DW98rosy
      @DW98rosy ปีที่แล้ว +2

      i’m still glad that Dallara was chosen,as the Deltawing is possible the uglyest Indycar i’ve ever seen(admittedly,i say that as someone who loved the IR-05s,but still。nothing will ever eclipse the Dallara IR-05 interms being the most beautiful open wheel racing cars ever made,and that is a fact。),and it would’ve have ruined the sport。

  • @ryanpereira2733
    @ryanpereira2733 ปีที่แล้ว

    Koenigsegg CCGT was for me the most iconic race car that never raced

  • @AtheistOrphan
    @AtheistOrphan ปีที่แล้ว +11

    My all-time dream car is a road-going Lancia Delta S4 Stradale. Surprisingly few videos about them. A road-legal ECV would be truly wild!

    • @dusankocisevic6823
      @dusankocisevic6823 ปีที่แล้ว

      There are a few shots of a S4 Pikes Peak…. MADNESS.

    • @AtheistOrphan
      @AtheistOrphan ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dusankocisevic6823 - Thanks. Would that be the road or rally version?

    • @dusankocisevic6823
      @dusankocisevic6823 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@AtheistOrphan It’s a rally for sure. Driven by Paolo Alessandrini in ‘87 and maybe in ‘88 also. IMO, the best looking was the army-green prototipo filmed in La Mandria test track!😍😍

    • @AtheistOrphan
      @AtheistOrphan ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dusankocisevic6823 - Thank you. The road-going S4 Stradale is the one for me. (If only!)

    • @dusankocisevic6823
      @dusankocisevic6823 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AtheistOrphan I agree! Just to find a bank, interested to buy me one.🤣🤣

  • @vycanismelodis
    @vycanismelodis ปีที่แล้ว

    that deltawing would be so cool to see racing in a whole field of them

  • @cutlass8783
    @cutlass8783 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I think that smokey yunick's 68 chevelle should have been on this list too

    • @GoodwoodRR
      @GoodwoodRR  ปีที่แล้ว

      It's not a definitive list, we'll do more.

  • @TheRUBrally
    @TheRUBrally ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I made a similar video years ago (but focused on rally), it's always intetesting to see what we almost see on tracks

    • @karelpgbr
      @karelpgbr ปีที่แล้ว

      Hello mate, love your videos!

    • @TheRUBrally
      @TheRUBrally ปีที่แล้ว

      @@karelpgbr Thanks mate 😁

  • @deliciouslifetv7362
    @deliciouslifetv7362 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome list on never heard before racecars .. this episode is awesome at any degree 😎👍🏾🇵🇭DeliciouslifeTV! Cool episode!!

  • @jstewlly4747
    @jstewlly4747 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The Alfa romeo died so the 155 v6 ti can live i totally agree that car tore the track up

  • @jamesmchenry4708
    @jamesmchenry4708 ปีที่แล้ว

    I actually went to the Chicago motor show the year the Deltawing was revealed. At the time I couldn't fathom how the car worked, but as we found out it did work in sports car racing.

  • @vwjetta4138
    @vwjetta4138 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If the Porsche LMP2000 raced, it would’ve denied Audi’s racing success outright. The Porsche RS Spyder was an LMP2 car and was easily capable of keeping up with the Audi’s and were more reliable

  • @yiannishayabusaofficial
    @yiannishayabusaofficial ปีที่แล้ว

    WOOOOOOOOOW AWESOME ! ! ! ! ! ! !

  • @TheDelkioGaming
    @TheDelkioGaming ปีที่แล้ว

    Literally the car from wreckfest

  • @Mr.deBest
    @Mr.deBest ปีที่แล้ว

    great audio quality 🙂

  • @jordydereus
    @jordydereus ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Detomaso 926 group B.

  • @Ivvvnnn
    @Ivvvnnn ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Audi were developing R18 for the 2017. That thing would be monstrous.

  • @leccybadger
    @leccybadger ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Can't help thinking that Don Panoz has 'compensation' issues.....

  • @supersevenn
    @supersevenn ปีที่แล้ว +2

    you forgot the Nissan P35 GTP car that was built, tested but never raced as Nissan pulled out of GTP

  • @zekewang869
    @zekewang869 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    My top 3 (in no particular order) Peugeot 905 evo2, Ferrari F50 gt1, Audi R18(2017)

    • @zekewang869
      @zekewang869 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Honorable mention: TVR Cerbera Speed 12

    • @fuzzynutter8344
      @fuzzynutter8344 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Evo2 looked like it was from another planet. As Peugeot were at the top of their game in the SWC in 1992, I have no doubt the Evo2 would have been stunningly quick. Just a shame it never had the chance to show its potential.

  • @jonasschiefer626
    @jonasschiefer626 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think the Peugeot 905 Evo 2 should also be here

  • @FyoGuidesAndRides
    @FyoGuidesAndRides ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If I remember correctly, the problem with the MP4-18 was that it was too compact and developed overheating (and other?) problems. We now all know what could have been, because they did the compact - size zero - design again in the Mclaren/Honda/Alonso era, where Honda had to dial down the power to GP2 level just to survive a grand prix distance.

    • @afoxwithahat7846
      @afoxwithahat7846 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cooling for a V6 turbo hybrid is quite different tho, plus Adrian Knew what he was doing, he realized the mistake but McLaren didn't want to fix it, just to make another car.

  • @satvikkrishna7332
    @satvikkrishna7332 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    In my opinion, the ECV is the best Lancia ever.

    • @poplaurentiu4148
      @poplaurentiu4148 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Group-S had plenty cool prototypes all were mostly mid-engines : Audi RS002, ECV1 & ECV2, Toyota MR222D, Peugeot 405 T16-Quasar, Ford RS-200 S, MG Metro 6R-V6 AWD, Opel Kadet 4X4, Seat Ibiza Bimoto, Mazda RX7S, Mitsubishi Starrion 4WD, Lada Samara EVA-S, BMW M1 Procar, Ferrari 288 GTO S, Porsche 959.. All were crazy.

  • @isaacsrandomvideos667
    @isaacsrandomvideos667 ปีที่แล้ว

    1:53 that’s gorgeous

  • @MikeMasson
    @MikeMasson ปีที่แล้ว

    I would have liked to see more about the Toyota 222D which I also don't think ever got to be raced.

    • @ondraspendlik9759
      @ondraspendlik9759 ปีที่แล้ว

      It didn't, just like the 002 Quattro. Or the Ford RS200 Evo 2 and the Peugeot 205 T16 Evo 3 (not sure if these count, since they are just evolutions). Speaking of the Quattro, there was a Group B Quattro prototype with the engine in the middle, but the car hasn't been seen for like 40 years. It's possible it served as a base for the Group S 002 Quattro.

  • @Tj930
    @Tj930 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "Or they could have been rubbish" 😄

  • @falt.a738
    @falt.a738 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey people.....(First Sorry for my English)......but this Page mayby forghet this fact.......the wife ov S4 engineer deteined in own garage the prototype ov S4 ecv2 with new chassys and engine called tri-flux.....same volumetric compressore with turbo charger ov S4 buy with revolutionary sistem ov injection (tri-flux or three-line).........and someone said able ti ho from 800hp (low boost) to 1100hp (higt boost)...... Some italian site talk about this...... saluti dall'Italia

  • @TheLastoftheFourMKs
    @TheLastoftheFourMKs ปีที่แล้ว

    The Lanica would've been an absolute beast ngl had Group S not been cancelled

  • @teweri069
    @teweri069 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I would also add koenigsegg ccgt

  • @themightymitsubishilancere8027
    @themightymitsubishilancere8027 ปีที่แล้ว

    delta s4 martini group b: am i a joke to you

  • @MrChinyoonfui
    @MrChinyoonfui ปีที่แล้ว

    the mitsubishi starion group B rally

  • @mslo7312
    @mslo7312 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Audi LMDH now

  • @dusankocisevic6823
    @dusankocisevic6823 ปีที่แล้ว

    Alfa looks AMAZING……..

  • @mrkenny6817
    @mrkenny6817 ปีที่แล้ว

    First gen of WRC regulation was actually based on Group S

  • @WerdnaLiten
    @WerdnaLiten ปีที่แล้ว

    Citroen C4 Hybrid WRC over 10 years ago....

  • @CD-Gaming
    @CD-Gaming ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm naturally drawn towards the Lancia! Mainly cuz it's a Lancia! But, I must admit, that Alfa was quite a pretty car (then again, it IS an Alfa Romeo, so...)! If noult else, though, I would love to see these in a game somewhere, even Lancia's Group C cars! All we ever get of Lancia is their Rally cars, be nice for a bit of variety, I mean, I know they were dominant and I never turn down a Delta S4, but...

    • @MasterOfTruck
      @MasterOfTruck ปีที่แล้ว

      some 1-off racing game called gravel actually has the lancia ecv in it and its unironically the best car in the game.

    • @CD-Gaming
      @CD-Gaming ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MasterOfTruck Gravel...? I think I've seen that as well... What's it on again?

    • @MasterOfTruck
      @MasterOfTruck ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CD-Gaming ps4, xb1, pc

    • @CD-Gaming
      @CD-Gaming ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MasterOfTruck I shall keep an eye on the PS4 section then! Jus got a PS4 recently 'n'all! How's that for timing!

  • @deborahpriestley4739
    @deborahpriestley4739 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think the F50 GT could have done very well between '96 and '98 before GT1 died out.

  • @DW98rosy
    @DW98rosy ปีที่แล้ว +2

    it’s kind of still baffles me,that as ugly as the Dallara DW12 was(even compared the IR-05),we very nearly got somat worse the form of the Deltawing。

  • @migueldenboer5186
    @migueldenboer5186 ปีที่แล้ว

    How about the RS200?

  • @VirtualPainRecords
    @VirtualPainRecords ปีที่แล้ว +1

    VW didn't only do sketchy emission things in the US. Europe has a dozen times more VW cars but in the US they had do pay a waaaaay bigger fine than here.
    And now the funny part: The crime they have commited by that (in Germany) would have cost them alot of money but thanks to VW's lobby (duh...) the government suddenly tweaked the law so VW barely had to pay anything. They are making it even sketchier.

  • @RACECAR
    @RACECAR ปีที่แล้ว

    To this day, it still bums me out that the 908 Hybrid4 Never raced. It was developed, completed and clearly was in working order as seen in the videos that showed it testing. And yet as the team were in Sebring for the usual testing phase, they get the call that the plug has been pulled.

    • @noobsaibot7006
      @noobsaibot7006 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thats the difference between racing teams and corporate fat cats

  • @Emira_75
    @Emira_75 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ferrari f50 GT!!!!!!!

  • @memememe2674
    @memememe2674 ปีที่แล้ว

    These are "proper" race cars that to me have every right to enter the goodwood climb challenge, unlike the latest record holder which is what sort of race car?

  • @benoitdeclercq9722
    @benoitdeclercq9722 ปีที่แล้ว

    That new polo GTi had potential for daysss!

  • @doktorfatalnyy
    @doktorfatalnyy ปีที่แล้ว

    Rear wing of Polo GTI WRC looks pretty similar to what we've seen in Polo R WRX(and 2.0l engine, around 560-570hp). Maybe they kinda used new WRC parts to create killer WRX Polo out of older chassis?

  • @olavofernandes7286
    @olavofernandes7286 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Toyota 222d group s

  • @NewbFixer
    @NewbFixer ปีที่แล้ว

    POLO

  • @wernerduckhorn9032
    @wernerduckhorn9032 ปีที่แล้ว

    🎬🥰✌️

  • @Tayd0g
    @Tayd0g ปีที่แล้ว

    Another one worth mentioning was the lincoln nascar concept from 1996

  • @colinr273
    @colinr273 ปีที่แล้ว

    33, not 30 cars race at Indy.

  • @BorgyTan
    @BorgyTan ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Koenigsegg CCGT

  • @Kulumuli
    @Kulumuli ปีที่แล้ว

    At the time I also heard that Opel worked on a Kadett rally car with 1000hp. But then the rules changed.

  • @strangeworldsunlimited712
    @strangeworldsunlimited712 ปีที่แล้ว

    At first glance, that Lancia ECV looked like an old AMC Gremlin. I wondered who made a Gremlin into a racing car.

  • @oscar_bru8455
    @oscar_bru8455 ปีที่แล้ว

    where koenigsegg CCGT???

  • @AJBa83
    @AJBa83 ปีที่แล้ว

    I guess if any of these could be entered in the timed shootout then they could said to have 'raced', belatedly.

  • @segaiuolo
    @segaiuolo ปีที่แล้ว

    A car that definitely would have changed motorsport forever is the McLaren MP4/8 "Lambo": loved by Senna, not so much by Ferrari and Todt...

  • @moonchildsixsixsix
    @moonchildsixsixsix ปีที่แล้ว

    love the video hate the music. please no bullshit hip modern trash music. just images would be best or at least some sort of mechanical auto noises in the back ground, perhaps sample from auto delta. much more fitting.

  • @BrianLTU
    @BrianLTU ปีที่แล้ว

    So russians wanted to race in group s?...we learn everyday ig.

  • @jamescreavin8022
    @jamescreavin8022 ปีที่แล้ว

    Horrendous use of the word 'stillborn'