"Do not cross the oh shit line, do not stop before the oh shit line. Simply, I say, *ride* the oh shit line as long as you can." -Probably some guy at some point
Too bad they never know that because they can’t read shit XD а вообще, там по сути каждый переключатель подписан, там разобраться во всем можно просто посидев и почитав.
Chuck Yeager test flew the MIG23 and said if the MIG entered a flat spin you push the stick to the white line and count the spins. If the MIG didn't recover in 3 full spins, Punch out or die.
@@garryb374holy cope. The early problems were ironed out and then the F-105 went on to obliterate the russian sams in Vietnam. These problems only showed up because it was rushed into service as a nuclear weapon delivery device. It went from first flight to in service under 2 years. Compared to the 5 years the mig took to enter service and it still arrived with major problems that they never really fixed. Theres also a 20 year difference between the f-105 and the mig-23. If you want to compare aircraft compare the mig-23 to the F-14 which entered service before the mig-23.
Fighter aircrafts are designed to be unstable, it helps the aircraft to be more maneuverable and agile and every fighter jet has this characteristics of getting out of control. Nowadays fly by wire tech has mostly covered this.
I bet he has interesting stories. The MIGs flew all over the world so they had to be tough. I like their look. They remind me of a shark with an open devouring mouth.
I was an instructor for a company owned by a retired navy commander who bought a ton of migs in pieces from russia. He built a small town in the desert outside of Reno-stead and brought mig mechanics and their families over to assemble and repair the jets. He hired 10 of us former us and uk and aussie fighter pilots to teach the rich idiots who bought them how to fly them. We sold mig 15, 17, 19, and 21's. By far the 17 sold best as it was dirt cheap and many of the oddball quirks of the 15 had been remedied. The commander spoke fluent russian, and for a time flew the BD-5J that coors light called the silver bullet and used in airshows and commercials. I flew it a few times, it is a tiny little jet, fun to fly. I knew Jim Bede very well, and had flown a number of his other planes. I was an F-15C driver, initially with the 43rd tfs at that time based at elmendorf afb, anchorage, ak. By far my favorite posting. I enjoyed the mig 21, it is a surprisingly capable jet for its age. With a modern radar and FBW it would be capable today, other than in situations where stealth is needed and of course not in a dogfight against 5th gen jets with hyper maneuverability. As he mentions here, a real drawback to most russian fighters is visibility. In any US fighter at least since the 60's, you feel as if youre riding the jet, like a motorcycle, whereas russian jets feel more like a sports car, it wraps around you like a cocoon, severely limiting over the shoulder visibility. Another easy change i would make would be to group switches and gauges in logical ways so pilots can check and compare flight, control, and engine data at a glance, and i would include HOTAS. Political heat and pressure from the state department finally forced him to close down the company. It was a sad day, we had an incredible time.
My grandfather was a Navy radio operator on PBY Catalinas. When I was a kid he used to take me to all these old naval museums to look at all the old planes. I never realized how lucky I was back then.
I love stuff like this, any good tips on where to go I’m on the east coast, I’ve been to Virginia and been on a battleship there it was amazing but any more ideas would help thanks
@@tman3835 I wish I could help you, but this was back in the mid 80s when I was a small child so I don't really know where we were. My grandfather used to take us everywhere in his RV growing up. One place might be Pensacola FL, but I'm not 100% sure about that. Sorry.
@@johnriggs-d5v my grandfather died when I was in my early 20s so he didn't tell me a whole lot, but my favorite story was the first time he took part in landing/taking off on water. He said the flight engineer had a bunch of unsharpened pencils rubber banded together. My grandfather asked him what those were for and he said he'd find out. Well, the first time they landed on the water my grandfather saw a bunch of rivets popping out everywhere, and once they got airborne again he said the engineer stuck pencils in the rivet holes and broke them off. He said that would hold until they got done with their exercises and then would get fixed properly. And that's how the Navy did things back in the late 40s/early 50s 😂.
I had watched all these shorts/vids from these guys. I heard the name of the museum so I googled it. Because anything "Rockies" is in CO, where I live. Turned out to be 8mins. from my apartment! Went for my B-Day, and one of the guides actually let me up the ladder to to look in the cockpit of this very Mig. It was awesome!
The good news is that this MiG directly influenced the creation of the greatest fighter of them all: the mighty F-15 Eagle. So for your birthday, you got to experience a pretty significant piece of history for your birthday. The bad news is that you pretty much crossed the line towards airplane geek now and there is no escape. Ever. You know the way people's eyes glaze over when you get into the minutiae of a subject you enjoy but they don't? Yeah, it's going to happen a lot; prepare yourself.
nice! when i visited my family in Denver i took my elderly retired airforce father and went there too. so many aircraft museums around there. glad they hooked you up with a cool experience
I was in Denver for work about 9 years ago and was looking to do something cool/educational to do on the one free day I had and I somehow stumbled across the wings museum, not too far from Denver. I mainly went there because of the X-Wing they still have on display from the original Star Wars movies and at the time, the pod racers from Episode 1. They were cool but there was SO much other amazing stuff on display there. I looked at everything they had there, some twice, probably spent 3 hours just wandering around the place mid day during the week. The only thing that might have topped it was the U.S. Space & Rocket Center & NASA's Marshal Space flight center, both close by in Huntsville Alabama. If you are into aviation and especially Space Exploration, this was amazing. Seeing test benches where the Saturn V was tested, one of the operational control centers for the ISS, and SO much more. I am so lucky to have my job pay me to go to these towns and so happy I made the time to visit these by myself just soaking in the history.
"Wow, 1000 switches. Not in any real logical place, or order." That's the documentary version. What he actually said was, "What stupid son of a bitch put this soup sandwich together? I swear to God if I find him, I'll ring his neck!"
Even when you raise the seat you’re still much lower in a mig because the cockpit is lower, the F16 the cockpit is elevated more. It’s just the design of the aircraft.
The soviet aircraft trim systems moved the stick off centre, so the white stripe was a visual reference for the centre for trim purposes, not just for spin recovery.
It is neat to note the visibility between the F15 and Mig25, the Mig has oess visibility because it isnt mesnt for intense dogfighting, its fast but not quick, heavy steel. Fastest in the world but takes forever to get there. Its an interceptor. Whereas the F15 was the definition of quick, 0 to 100 as fast as you can, its a dogfighter. Thus you need more visibility for intense dogfights
This is a mig23 champ. It's designed to work with the ground crew to help it navigate towards the target. Better luck next time and ohh the mig25 has the same visibility of the f15 and it has one of the fastest acceleration.
@@ChipCheerioBecause it was an interceptor and not a front line fighter? Hence why it did not see too much combat, and even then upgraded versions of the MiG-25 like 25PD and PDS achieved a 3/1 K/D ratio against fighters
The white stripe on the dash seems like an incredible idea, instead of relying on a pilot's muscle memory and skill to recover the plane you put a visual indicator of where the stick needs to go to recover the plane
There are 4 switches on the dash, all labeled, to adjust the heck outta the seat. Including straight up about 6 inches. There’s even a slight recline feature. Only about 8 inches. But you gotta remember to bring your seat to the full upright position for landing and take-off.
@@SovetUnion63He wasn’t comparing their capability or mission set he was just comparing visibility and he probably has experience in both of those aircraft.
@@cadennorris960 yet he cannot even adjust the seat to his height correctly, you can see his head is like 20 cm below where it should be. All switches are also placed such that they are logically grouped (electric on the right, engine on the left, weapon systems up front). Not sure what his line of reference was in that case. (The 23 also wasn't at all prone to departures, it has a flight control limiter to prevent exactly that.) The nosewheel brake also doesn't limit anything, the 45° limit of nosewheel steering does, but like, come on, it's not a navy aircraft, no need to turn on the spot.
@@19Koty96what are you spitting? Hehehe Electric on the left? When electric controls plane engine,it should be on the right! Or weapons. That is main reason of pilot being surrounded by sheet metal- chRussia is not able to automate CPU programs or GUI interface,pilot has to control everything, Needs space where to place all 1000 levers. - So as most RU weapon operators, like small Radar screen with 1000 knobs in S-300 = then 4 own planes are shot 1 day by own SAM airdefense. - I know, now there are some drone manufacturers who can program chip from western scooters to steer Lancet drone- but not in most of RU aircraft,tanks. - And 45° ANGLE of wheel is not caused by brake harness/hoses?? - and more importantly: aren't airstrips,especially RU rural mil.bases, of narrow 10-20m width? (western 40m) So plane NEEDS TO turnaround at takeoff lane end,even narrower place than Aircraft carrier deck? - flight control limiter was not used because plane was prone to harsh maneuvres, wild airflow turbulences on control surfaces? Yes it was, so as most RU planes. Air fences on wings from first Mig-15, secondary under-tail flow stabilisers (some older western planes,too). - every MiG pilot knew exact speed for each maneuvre +- only 10 kph, because then something unexpected occured, or aiming/landing missed. - landing itself was another brilliant example: like 350-400 kmh sppeed? Especially on RU hilbilly concrete surface? - that included also ATTACK maneuvres, possible only in 850 kph speed +5° angle,otherwise aiming failed. =most pilots relied rather on manual aim
There's a fantastic "Constant Peg" display and a CP MiG-23 in the National Museum of the United States Air Force at Wright-Patterson AFB near Dayton, Ohio.
Well it is nice that you make videos about planes you don’t understand. 1. There are literal switches to get the seat to go up or down. 2. The switches or organized in order so on the left are switches that have something to do with the engine, on the right are the switches that control the electricity and weapon systems and in the middle there is not many switches only high up that are for the hud otherwise just clocks and a indicators
they all *all* work left to right, worked on Hinds, they have same setup. fuses on right, comms on center start and gogo stick on left. whatevers in between those 2 are a blend-over. for example gogo stick and comms? theres autopilot and such. between comms and fuses? transponder and trackings, alert systems, BEHIND and under you? your o s**t gear and gtfo system and survival gear. once in a while id see pockets on the door or near the hatches, holster for your pistol or flashlight. they all start from left to right, basically
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@@redkaladin6864i think thats what happens a lot when america looks at foreign designs, to them it doesn't make any sense at all, why would it? It wasn't made for the american military, to american design philosophy, it was made for whatever nation it came from.
@@andrewd.5583 whenever i watch something like this that deals with retarded soviet russian vodka engineering, the first thing that goes through my mind was the scene from that armageddon movie where their spaceship has some kind of bug that is about to cause them to get stuck on the meteor as it's about to blow up, and then the russian shows up and smacks the electrical panel with a hammer a couple of times, and it starts working again. that is the most accurate portrayal of the russians and their mentality and designs and retardation.
You're using logic and common sense?!? The matrix doesn't like that, you should be a victim of its anti Russian propaganda like the other commenters. 😅
@@M1tjakaramazov IT was in service about 5 years before the F-14 and early F14s were kind of turds with the T30s. In a fight earlier on it would be 2 interceptors fighting with next to useless missile.
One of these came down at an air show at willow run airport in Michigan a few days ago. Lots of videos of that crash. The pilots managed to eject safely
low-profile canopy was designed to reduce frontal area = low wind resistance. Made a difference between the plane being able to go supersonic or not. exact opposite of an F-16 which reduced the frontal area air resistance of the jet by having the pilot lean backwards instead of just being vertical reducing canopy height
Pilot was leaned back to reduce the G loads on him. F-16 was never meant to fly above Mach-2, while MiG-23 was, as is evident from intakes and wing design.
Speed is great but what happens when you need to see everything that's happening around you? Not so sure this jet would be so great in a real dog fight.
I heard it flying overhead and the crash from my house. Friends of mine live in the apartment complex that it almost hit. Very lucky no one was injured or killed. 😬
It's a high speed hit and run interceptor. Thus the low cockpit position serves for additional speed. If you're worried about twisting your head around, turning into high-g spins... you're using the plane to fight incorrectly.
People love to list these intended uses like that's justification for it's short comings. Not only did it ditch the interceptor role throughout the middle east, that's not even a feasible tactic anymore... Why do people insist on defending the sub-par engineering capabilities of Russia
@@ThatOneGuyWhoLostHisHandleMy guy, the US hasn't had a plane since the 80s that works properly. Our newest planes can't even take off if it's raining or if the runway has a twig on it. We've lost more planes to accidents than to enemys, each plane is 300 million dollars, we've spent TRILLIONS developing it
@@declaringpond2276 You have proved literally nothing, the fact that we've "lost more planes to accidents than to enemies" eludes more to the technological complexity and overall superiority of our aircraft than it does to American technological incompetence. I'm not even sure what your point is to begin with, please find me a plane more advanced than the f-16 with a combat record even comparable.... Please find a a 5th gen fighter with with combat test scores anywhere near as good as the f-35. You sound like another typical Bradley hater that doesn't actually know what he's saying, just listing some specs he read somewhere that convinced him it wasn't one of, if not the best, IFV on the market. Obviously next gen tech with the capabilities the F-35 has isn't going to come out hot and ready to eat. In fact, if you'd like to see an increase in the reliability of American military research and development, then I more than welcome you to STFU and go do it yourself 👍
Ive heard comments about switches and levers more than once about soviet aircraft going all the way back to WWII and interwar period. They really loved their levers and switches
@@NoFlyZone31Dogfighting isn't how modern fighter planes fight. They use air-to-air missiles from long distance. If you're in a situation where you NEED to dogfight in a modern fighter, you've probably made some serious mistakes
I remember the movie FIREFOX and Gantz said... " It could use few improvements here and there..." He had just stolen one of the worlds most advanced and deadly fighter aircraft in the world...and he was critiquing it on some of its faults...he said this to the Secretary of Defense in the Soviet Military.. I always get a warm and fuzzy feeling when I watch that part.. FIREFOX...a great movie by Clint Eastwood 🐦 ❤
Every system's switches are in their respective groups. Circuit breakers on one panel, all the engine management switches on a single panel, all the fuel management switches on a separate panel. I don't know what's "illogical order" about that, especially considering an American pilot has to turn in their cockpit multiple times in contemporary American jets - since switches of a system (engine, fuel, etc.) were scattered all across the cockpit back then. While the Americans had to adapt a "3-sweep method" (plus BIT) on startup, Soviets (and other European pilots) mostly ever needed one sweep (again, plus BIT). The fact that even the Americans admit that it took much less time for a Soviet jet (of this era) to get in the air than a contemporary American jet speaks for itself. I'm not saying Soviet fighters were better - starting with the 60s, newer Eastern planes started to lag behind newer Western ones, and the technological gap just kept getting wider and wider throughout the rest of the Cold War (and beyond). I'm just saying you should give credit where credit's due - even though there were hundreds of switches, Soviet cockpits were much more logical and intuitive than contemporary American ones.
@@iwineverygame1995 These planes essentially crafted around the fact that maintenance may be not great or with longer periods between. And some jets like MiG-29 designed to fly from temporary field, hence upper airshafts in the wings just for takeoff (to not suck leaves and debris in the engine)
@@Denozo88 Are you sure about that? The aircraft has a grand total of 6 air to air kills across all nations that operate it. 2 in cuba (the victims were from a nonprofit organization), 3 in ethopia and 1 during a Georgian border violation in 2008. So exactly how many americans were shot down by this aircraft? THe Mig-29 has also seen 18 air to air losses, 5 of which occured in the Gulf War.
@@Denozo88or you need to reread what you said and realize that isn’t remotely true. Some people are capable of having objective opinions, the MiG-23 wasn’t a great aircraft design
Something that I’ve always liked about this channel and the British Tank channel. Is how knowledgeable they are and how even though some of the equipment they have is from enemy nations. They will tell us about the good and the bad stuff. An it doesn’t matter if it’s enemy nation equipment or our own nation’s equipment they will still explain the good the bad and the ugly. Because no matter what there’s always going to be trade offs that’s done.
@@Floppa.TheCat Watch an ISS tour. The American section is open with plenty of room and in the Russian section they live like sardines in a can. Claustrophobic conditions have no reliability advantage. They're just more shitty.
He’s just comparing it to western styles of cockpit organization. This plane contradicts his logic on how a cockpit should be organized. It’s all based on personal experience
@@rubotok3703I’m more familiar with firearms than with fighter planes, but it’s kinda like the age-old AK vs AR debate. People here in the US are always saying how the AR is ergonomically superior to the AK, but the truth is that they operate according to different ergonomic principles. The AK, for example, is naturally ambidextrous. ARs are great if you’re right-handed but not so great if you’re a southpaw. That’s why in the civilian market, there are specialized left-handed versions of the AR available. But you never see a left-handed version of the AK because it simply isn’t necessary; that’s part of the genius of the design. The Russians just have their own way of doing things; sometimes it is impractical but it can also be very clever.
“You sit very deep” Next moment proceeds to show a switch with “move seat upwards” on it. I wouldn’t trust that man to teach me anything about eastern tech.
Ah yes, good ol' brute force engineering that works about as often as you'd expect something engineered with brute force to work, sometimes... Truly one of the methods of manufacturing to ever exist.
Worse actually, cuz while the 104 got fixed the flogger never evolved^^ Heck i fly DCS mig21 and more than half of the cockpit, switches, and the entire flight stick are straight up mig21 parts (THIS IS 50s TECHNOLOGY)
The deep seating is due to the MiG-23 being designed for a secondary role as ground-attack ("shturmovik") with unguided rockets, well within the range of flak. Dedicated fighters such as Su-9/11/15 had higher seating and bubble-type canopies, while the Su-27 was even more extreme in sinking the pilot into an armored tub. One might consider the Su-23 a midget F-111.
@djjaysky9071 Migs got smoke checked way more than any Nato fighters. Sure they were fast as fuck and had competent weapons. Just look at the mig21 the only reason for its success in Vietnam was the fact that US leadership sent wave after wave of pilots on the same, easily predictable flight paths, on the same targets, over and over again. For the Soviet trained Viet Mig pilots, they might as well have been working a repetitive, wage slave job. Wake up, haul ass and bully some B-52s and F-4s with the help of S-75 Dvina SAM systems also donated by the Soviets. If the Americans air campaign was directed by men actually in country, rather than foreign policy apperatchiks in DC, the communist pilots wouldn't have been skeet shooting Americans and Australians out of the sky like migrating geese.
I can listen to veterans talking about planes from their day for hours. Toured an aircraft carrier and there was 80+ year old vets ready to tell you absolutely everything about the aircrafts
Man I don’t know shit about planes but getting a vkb stick for star citizen made me really appreciate the build quality of them. Especially when they’re worn and beaten
“A lot of switches, none in an order or logical sense” For an American, for Russians they are quite logical. For a Russian/Soviet pilots, once they sit down into American plane, they will think absolutely the same thing. Logic is a cultural thing, and every culture thinks differently.
the reason it was "so prone to go out of control" was that compared to western aircraft designs russian designs dont limit your aoa, which means you can easily stall it, especially in a stressful situation. the elevator trim on the stick and the other trims on the board is a comfort thing. the only thing you really need to trim in a jet is the elevator as weapons loadout and fuel change the cg changes slightly and with that the elevator trim. ruddern and aileeon on the other hand dont really change, so its fine to have them somewhere less accessible. this pilot has only ever been tought and thought about "how western designs are superior", but there is rhyme and reason behind most descisions made everywhere. when you start to look into them they start making sense and quite often you'll find yourself liking a mix of the two.
Him; "It has this really awesome feature, better than any other plane of its time!" Also him; "But it doesn't have large enough cupholders, throw it in the bin with the rest of the trash where it belongs."
Check out our in-depth video on the MiG-23 and Constant Peg: th-cam.com/video/0H3NfLNu6z4/w-d-xo.html
Designed by communist committee...not for pilots
Was all going well until he talked nonsense about no us aircraft being shot down by soviet migs during the gulf war :/
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@@HasxVoiksthere were ZERO mig shoot downs of ANY American aircraft I know I was there!!
Zero USAF KILLS BY MIGS IN ANY GULF WAR!!! IDIOT
“What’s this white line?”
“That? That’s the “oh shit” line.”
Must be related to a cars “oh shit” handle
@@mojojoji5493 they’re either brothers or cousins as far as I’m aware
@@mojojoji5493 That was my first thought, too!
"Do not cross the oh shit line, do not stop before the oh shit line. Simply, I say, *ride* the oh shit line as long as you can."
-Probably some guy at some point
Shouldn't it be brown?
"Tell me about the brown stripe on the seat"
"Well, that's from not putting the stick against the white stripe in a recovery manuever"
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Notice the switch "сиденье вверх" on the desh means "Seat Up". This is how you can adjust the seat height in this plane.
Too bad they never know that because they can’t read shit XD а вообще, там по сути каждый переключатель подписан, там разобраться во всем можно просто посидев и почитав.
@@Bondrewd__21Видишь ли, Иван, американцы читать не умеют, так что если мы подпишем кнопки на самолете, то только мы сможем на нем летать xD
Как говорил Задорнов, 'нуууу тупыеее'
Laughs in f-22@@snepping1885
@@Bondrewd__21 Эт точно, the experts didn't bother to translate and read which is exceptionally easy now. Well, that's just too bad...
Chuck Yeager test flew the MIG23 and said if the MIG entered a flat spin you push the stick to the white line and count the spins. If the MIG didn't recover in 3 full spins, Punch out or die.
He hated Russians with passion and was also an ignorant ass when it came to them.
that's the mig15 review
LoL....Russian Flight Manual 😅
@@garryb374holy cope. The early problems were ironed out and then the F-105 went on to obliterate the russian sams in Vietnam. These problems only showed up because it was rushed into service as a nuclear weapon delivery device. It went from first flight to in service under 2 years. Compared to the 5 years the mig took to enter service and it still arrived with major problems that they never really fixed. Theres also a 20 year difference between the f-105 and the mig-23. If you want to compare aircraft compare the mig-23 to the F-14 which entered service before the mig-23.
@garrybrookes374 you sound like you need a drink of vodka comrade
That's pretty bad when you build an aircraft that loses control so often you have to paint the recovery mark in the cockpit lol.
it's a common procdeure though to go on a dive to increase airspeed in hopes of regaining some/all control.
So all US planes are bad for including spin recovery system?
Fighter aircrafts are designed to be unstable, it helps the aircraft to be more maneuverable and agile and every fighter jet has this characteristics of getting out of control. Nowadays fly by wire tech has mostly covered this.
What bad is 166 people liked your dumb comment. Every fighter made by every country has spin recovery
I also heard the primary maintenance tool was an 8kg (≈20lb) sledge hammer
Old guys and MiGs are a match made in heaven. My grandpa always talks about doing maintenance on them. The man knows MiG 15s like his palm.
I bet he has interesting stories. The MIGs flew all over the world so they had to be tough. I like their look. They remind me of a shark with an open devouring mouth.
I was an instructor for a company owned by a retired navy commander who bought a ton of migs in pieces from russia. He built a small town in the desert outside of Reno-stead and brought mig mechanics and their families over to assemble and repair the jets. He hired 10 of us former us and uk and aussie fighter pilots to teach the rich idiots who bought them how to fly them. We sold mig 15, 17, 19, and 21's. By far the 17 sold best as it was dirt cheap and many of the oddball quirks of the 15 had been remedied.
The commander spoke fluent russian, and for a time flew the BD-5J that coors light called the silver bullet and used in airshows and commercials. I flew it a few times, it is a tiny little jet, fun to fly. I knew Jim Bede very well, and had flown a number of his other planes.
I was an F-15C driver, initially with the 43rd tfs at that time based at elmendorf afb, anchorage, ak. By far my favorite posting.
I enjoyed the mig 21, it is a surprisingly capable jet for its age. With a modern radar and FBW it would be capable today, other than in situations where stealth is needed and of course not in a dogfight against 5th gen jets with hyper maneuverability.
As he mentions here, a real drawback to most russian fighters is visibility. In any US fighter at least since the 60's, you feel as if youre riding the jet, like a motorcycle, whereas russian jets feel more like a sports car, it wraps around you like a cocoon, severely limiting over the shoulder visibility.
Another easy change i would make would be to group switches and gauges in logical ways so pilots can check and compare flight, control, and engine data at a glance, and i would include HOTAS.
Political heat and pressure from the state department finally forced him to close down the company. It was a sad day, we had an incredible time.
is there more info on this? Sounds someone would have written a book on this!
Every once in a while you find a worthwhile comment on TH-cam. This is one of them.
Fascinating! Any thoughts on the MiG-25 Foxbats?
Glad i came across this.
Thank you for sharing
Thanks for showing us the things he was talking about rather than his face all the time. Very good camera work
Was going to comment this but im glad another already said so. Especially the white stripe, what stripe, we havent seen anything of the sort yet.
if its in Russian and in no logical order would it really help you to understand seeing it anyways?
It's called ergonomics and it's a universal language to beings that have the same general dexterity of movement as u.
its more of cutting work and getting some b-roll for the stuff he talks about
A seemingly forgotten art!
My grandfather was a Navy radio operator on PBY Catalinas. When I was a kid he used to take me to all these old naval museums to look at all the old planes. I never realized how lucky I was back then.
I love stuff like this, any good tips on where to go I’m on the east coast, I’ve been to Virginia and been on a battleship there it was amazing but any more ideas would help thanks
My grandfather flew PBYs! He and my father have passed but I wish I knew more about him and his career.
@@tman3835 I wish I could help you, but this was back in the mid 80s when I was a small child so I don't really know where we were. My grandfather used to take us everywhere in his RV growing up. One place might be Pensacola FL, but I'm not 100% sure about that. Sorry.
@@johnriggs-d5v my grandfather died when I was in my early 20s so he didn't tell me a whole lot, but my favorite story was the first time he took part in landing/taking off on water. He said the flight engineer had a bunch of unsharpened pencils rubber banded together. My grandfather asked him what those were for and he said he'd find out. Well, the first time they landed on the water my grandfather saw a bunch of rivets popping out everywhere, and once they got airborne again he said the engineer stuck pencils in the rivet holes and broke them off. He said that would hold until they got done with their exercises and then would get fixed properly. And that's how the Navy did things back in the late 40s/early 50s 😂.
Like they say, “Take off is optional and landing is mandatory”. 😂
Uhhhhhhhh
@@jag34 * squirts brown chowder into my britches *
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@@jag34you don't get it?
My brother is a retired Apache Long Bow pilot. He loved that bird.
I read that a pilot who operated a Mig-23 out of Tonopah said that everytime you went up, the 23 was going to try to kill you.
You are correct, 48TFW USAF
Yeah... recent history says that's true
Ever been there?
@scottashe984 To Tonopah? Nope. And can't think of a good reason to go.
USAF pilots also said same thing about the mig21 for taking off or landing it.
I had watched all these shorts/vids from these guys. I heard the name of the museum so I googled it. Because anything "Rockies" is in CO, where I live. Turned out to be 8mins. from my apartment! Went for my B-Day, and one of the guides actually let me up the ladder to to look in the cockpit of this very Mig. It was awesome!
The good news is that this MiG directly influenced the creation of the greatest fighter of them all: the mighty F-15 Eagle.
So for your birthday, you got to experience a pretty significant piece of history for your birthday.
The bad news is that you pretty much crossed the line towards airplane geek now and there is no escape. Ever. You know the way people's eyes glaze over when you get into the minutiae of a subject you enjoy but they don't? Yeah, it's going to happen a lot; prepare yourself.
nice! when i visited my family in Denver i took my elderly retired airforce father and went there too. so many aircraft museums around there. glad they hooked you up with a cool experience
I was in Denver for work about 9 years ago and was looking to do something cool/educational to do on the one free day I had and I somehow stumbled across the wings museum, not too far from Denver. I mainly went there because of the X-Wing they still have on display from the original Star Wars movies and at the time, the pod racers from Episode 1. They were cool but there was SO much other amazing stuff on display there. I looked at everything they had there, some twice, probably spent 3 hours just wandering around the place mid day during the week.
The only thing that might have topped it was the U.S. Space & Rocket Center & NASA's Marshal Space flight center, both close by in Huntsville Alabama. If you are into aviation and especially Space Exploration, this was amazing. Seeing test benches where the Saturn V was tested, one of the operational control centers for the ISS, and SO much more. I am so lucky to have my job pay me to go to these towns and so happy I made the time to visit these by myself just soaking in the history.
“Tell me about this white stripe”
My man knew exactly what it was for 😂
You'd be surprised how many interviews are rigged that way.
he’s making shit up
@@russiasvechenaya58 can you specify what was made up and correct him? ive loved to know the correct info
@@_Nute_0560 the seat goes up so you’re not trapped and can see perfectly fine
I mean if the top closes you are trapped @@russiasvechenaya58
"Wow, 1000 switches. Not in any real logical place, or order." That's the documentary version. What he actually said was, "What stupid son of a bitch put this soup sandwich together? I swear to God if I find him, I'll ring his neck!"
Ding! Ding! Ring the bell!
Now wring his neck...
Neck wringing complete.
Consider his neck wrung....
You must be an aircraft mechanic.
@@JohnSmith-yv6eqwhat are you referencing? 😂
@@danielevans8910
The OP's last sentence....."I'll ring his neck".
That should be "Wring his neck".
The rest of my reply is word play...
@@JohnSmith-yv6eq haha you’re intuitive 😂
Buddy, your head is way below the center of head support, and the switch saying "Сиденье вверх" (Seat -Up) is right in front of you.
Even when you raise the seat you’re still much lower in a mig because the cockpit is lower, the F16 the cockpit is elevated more. It’s just the design of the aircraft.
@@tomdiets5079Oh really?
You really think he doesn’t know that?? he’s not flying it he’s showing the cockpit why’s the head rest matter?
L + russian cope + scoreboard
@@Kcke-fjof2113you lost vietnam.
The soviet aircraft trim systems moved the stick off centre, so the white stripe was a visual reference for the centre for trim purposes, not just for spin recovery.
So the operators are constantly tryna hold right on the stick??? This is such bad design
@@mojojoji5493 wait, what?
was looking for this comment
@@tomaszwota1465 geometry of the mechanism tilted off center giving the vehicle “not straight flight pattern”
@@tomaszwota1465 in order to use the system you was moving away a little
Things like this is what makes these aircraft so interesting
it's also what makes them Russian crap.
This thing is a flying coffin. We have lost so many pilots to this piece of shit
Interesting? Maybe. Good? 😐😐😐😐😐
@@thebruckler3707Ok?
@@thebruckler3707...
I believe you fellas got my dad out of Cambodia 1966-1969.thank you for your service and my existence .
It is neat to note the visibility between the F15 and Mig25, the Mig has oess visibility because it isnt mesnt for intense dogfighting, its fast but not quick, heavy steel. Fastest in the world but takes forever to get there. Its an interceptor.
Whereas the F15 was the definition of quick, 0 to 100 as fast as you can, its a dogfighter. Thus you need more visibility for intense dogfights
Uh ,g thats not a mig25
This is a mig23 champ.
It's designed to work with the ground crew to help it navigate towards the target.
Better luck next time and ohh the mig25 has the same visibility of the f15 and it has one of the fastest acceleration.
@@theidiotictroublemaker2281Yet it lacks the success of the F15, because speed alone doesn’t get you very much in modern combat.
@@ChipCheerio "modern combat" is a superstition created by US wars on poor people.
@@ChipCheerioBecause it was an interceptor and not a front line fighter? Hence why it did not see too much combat, and even then upgraded versions of the MiG-25 like 25PD and PDS achieved a 3/1 K/D ratio against fighters
That white stripe proves that the Old saying of "Keep It Simple" works.
KISS = keep it simple stupid!!! you got it 85%
Yeah just look at their economy
@@betterwithrumtheir economy is not in a 13% inflationary spiral.
@icenine135 Its on shaky ground only held up by government controls that are on track to unravel in about 6 months when the cash reserves run out.
@@icenine135no, their Economy ceased to exist lmao
The white stripe on the dash seems like an incredible idea, instead of relying on a pilot's muscle memory and skill to recover the plane you put a visual indicator of where the stick needs to go to recover the plane
"I was crazy once they put me in a hanger, a rubber hanger, a rubber hanger with migs, migs drive ME crazy"
Crazy?
I was crazy once
@@normallymute0131they locked me in a room
@@lukav3509and I was court ordered to do infinite hours of Blowjobs for community service at the old folks home. It ain't so bad
a rubber room
Happy to see Ron Swanson doing well!
There are 4 switches on the dash, all labeled, to adjust the heck outta the seat. Including straight up about 6 inches. There’s even a slight recline feature. Only about 8 inches. But you gotta remember to bring your seat to the full upright position for landing and take-off.
He compares gen 3 to Gen4 fighters. Most gen 3 you sit deep inside. Gen 4 on the other hand you sit on top. Hint: mig 29, su 27
And your point is what exactly? People can never point out flaws of previous designs of anything?
@@sorincaladera936The better question in his perspective would be, what is the point made by the video makers?
The f15 took flight 4 or 5 years after the mig 23
Mig 29 also not f16 topnes
Huh? Isn't this a Mig 23?
When you really feel the need to say something to sound knowledgeable with zero relevance.
I could listen to this man for HOURS... A aeronautical treasure :O)
He compare F15 and F16 with MIG23? Really? General Dynamics F-111 and McDonnell Douglas F-4 Phantom II is to compare.
@@SovetUnion63He wasn’t comparing their capability or mission set he was just comparing visibility and he probably has experience in both of those aircraft.
@@cadennorris960 yet he cannot even adjust the seat to his height correctly, you can see his head is like 20 cm below where it should be. All switches are also placed such that they are logically grouped (electric on the right, engine on the left, weapon systems up front). Not sure what his line of reference was in that case. (The 23 also wasn't at all prone to departures, it has a flight control limiter to prevent exactly that.) The nosewheel brake also doesn't limit anything, the 45° limit of nosewheel steering does, but like, come on, it's not a navy aircraft, no need to turn on the spot.
@@19Koty96what are you spitting?
Hehehe
Electric on the left? When electric controls plane engine,it should be on the right! Or weapons.
That is main reason of pilot being surrounded by sheet metal- chRussia is not able to automate CPU programs or GUI interface,pilot has to control everything, Needs space where to place all 1000 levers.
- So as most RU weapon operators, like small Radar screen with 1000 knobs in S-300 = then 4 own planes are shot 1 day by own SAM airdefense.
- I know, now there are some drone manufacturers who can program chip from western scooters to steer Lancet drone- but not in most of RU aircraft,tanks.
- And 45° ANGLE of wheel is not caused by brake harness/hoses??
- and more importantly: aren't airstrips,especially RU rural mil.bases, of narrow 10-20m width? (western 40m) So plane NEEDS TO turnaround at takeoff lane end,even narrower place than Aircraft carrier deck?
- flight control limiter was not used because plane was prone to harsh maneuvres, wild airflow turbulences on control surfaces? Yes it was, so as most RU planes. Air fences on wings from first Mig-15, secondary under-tail flow stabilisers (some older western planes,too).
- every MiG pilot knew exact speed for each maneuvre +- only 10 kph, because then something unexpected occured, or aiming/landing missed.
- landing itself was another brilliant example: like 350-400 kmh sppeed? Especially on RU hilbilly concrete surface?
- that included also ATTACK maneuvres, possible only in 850 kph speed +5° angle,otherwise aiming failed.
=most pilots relied rather on manual aim
Except he reaks of bias.
There's a fantastic "Constant Peg" display and a CP MiG-23 in the National Museum of the United States Air Force at Wright-Patterson AFB near Dayton, Ohio.
The fact that he called the canopy a lid just adds to the craziness of this mig 😂
The use of the word “Lid” is likely a slang use….
@@Swede9418Considering just how deeply seated a Mig pilot was lid is appropriate term.
@Swede9418 I'm in American F-15 maintenance, we call the canopy a Lid too. not every time, but it's in the commonly used term list
@@clothar23The pilot is actually just a midget.
This museum is a must visit for any aviation enthusiast who travels to Denver.
I'd like to agree with you, but that ticket price is brutal.
@@root1657how much
@@root1657 How much?
Well it is nice that you make videos about planes you don’t understand. 1. There are literal switches to get the seat to go up or down. 2. The switches or organized in order so on the left are switches that have something to do with the engine, on the right are the switches that control the electricity and weapon systems and in the middle there is not many switches only high up that are for the hud otherwise just clocks and a indicators
Ahoj lodiċko
they all *all* work left to right, worked on Hinds, they have same setup. fuses on right, comms on center start and gogo stick on left. whatevers in between those 2 are a blend-over. for example gogo stick and comms? theres autopilot and such. between comms and fuses? transponder and trackings, alert systems, BEHIND and under you? your o s**t gear and gtfo system and survival gear. once in a while id see pockets on the door or near the hatches, holster for your pistol or flashlight. they all start from left to right, basically
I was going to say, there is a logic to it just not what he was used to.
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@@redkaladin6864i think thats what happens a lot when america looks at foreign designs, to them it doesn't make any sense at all, why would it? It wasn't made for the american military, to american design philosophy, it was made for whatever nation it came from.
The white stripe is also present on many soviet planes like the mig15, prrtty sure it was for stall recovery tho. Good old soviet simplicity
low iq response
"good old Soviet Simplicity" means tap button, damn tap it twice, damn run like hell !! they did not evenconnect this mrgy button !!!
@@guysabol8743 it means if this button doesn't work you pull it out and punch it
@@andrewd.5583 whenever i watch something like this that deals with retarded soviet russian vodka engineering, the first thing that goes through my mind was the scene from that armageddon movie where their spaceship has some kind of bug that is about to cause them to get stuck on the meteor as it's about to blow up, and then the russian shows up and smacks the electrical panel with a hammer a couple of times, and it starts working again.
that is the most accurate portrayal of the russians and their mentality and designs and retardation.
A simple fix for a complicated problem. A problem that should have been solved at the root but instead they ignored it and came up with a work around.
The cockpit was also vulnerable to getting photographed by other pilots while inverted.
The MiG-23 was honestly a perfectly fine fighter for its time, ahead of its time in speed and one of the first true multirole jet fighters.
You're using logic and common sense?!? The matrix doesn't like that, you should be a victim of its anti Russian propaganda like the other commenters. 😅
It came out around the same time as the F14. Ergo it was a pile of shit.
@@M1tjakaramazov IT was in service about 5 years before the F-14 and early F14s were kind of turds with the T30s. In a fight earlier on it would be 2 interceptors fighting with next to useless missile.
@@M1tjakaramazovF-14 was dogshit when it came out. That's why they made F-14B 😂
One of these came down at an air show at willow run airport in Michigan a few days ago. Lots of videos of that crash. The pilots managed to eject safely
I'm wondering if it was this very aircraft. I understand there were only three in the US.
@@clcortelyouI came to the comments looking for that info.
I like that everything is labeled
low-profile canopy was designed to reduce frontal area = low wind resistance.
Made a difference between the plane being able to go supersonic or not.
exact opposite of an F-16 which reduced the frontal area air resistance of the jet by having the pilot lean backwards instead of just being vertical reducing canopy height
Pilot was leaned back to reduce the G loads on him. F-16 was never meant to fly above Mach-2, while MiG-23 was, as is evident from intakes and wing design.
Low-profile canopy SUCKS. Very limited visibility.
Speed is great but what happens when you need to see everything that's happening around you? Not so sure this jet would be so great in a real dog fight.
@@USA-freedomDog fighting doesnt really matter anymore when most air to air combat happens at BVR these days.
@@heroinboblivesagain5478 Sure it doesn't. But in a way you are right when the US air force is in sky above run for your life or be killed.
One of these just crashed in Michigan at an air show now I’m seeing this.
@ShOxCooking I saw that yesterday, makes complete sense now knowing the unstable nature of the plane
I heard it flying overhead and the crash from my house. Friends of mine live in the apartment complex that it almost hit. Very lucky no one was injured or killed. 😬
I watched it happen, just before he called May Day I commented to my wife, "that looks uncomfortably slow and high alpha for a Flogger"
how does ur wife know this terminology "high alpha"? she a pilot?@@TomcatAL200
The Ron Swanson of planes. Love it!
It's a high speed hit and run interceptor. Thus the low cockpit position serves for additional speed. If you're worried about twisting your head around, turning into high-g spins... you're using the plane to fight incorrectly.
True, but he's not wrong to point out its limitations nonetheless.
in afghanistan the soviets mainly used it as a bomber
People love to list these intended uses like that's justification for it's short comings. Not only did it ditch the interceptor role throughout the middle east, that's not even a feasible tactic anymore... Why do people insist on defending the sub-par engineering capabilities of Russia
@@ThatOneGuyWhoLostHisHandleMy guy, the US hasn't had a plane since the 80s that works properly. Our newest planes can't even take off if it's raining or if the runway has a twig on it.
We've lost more planes to accidents than to enemys, each plane is 300 million dollars, we've spent TRILLIONS developing it
@@declaringpond2276 You have proved literally nothing, the fact that we've "lost more planes to accidents than to enemies" eludes more to the technological complexity and overall superiority of our aircraft than it does to American technological incompetence. I'm not even sure what your point is to begin with, please find me a plane more advanced than the f-16 with a combat record even comparable.... Please find a a 5th gen fighter with with combat test scores anywhere near as good as the f-35. You sound like another typical Bradley hater that doesn't actually know what he's saying, just listing some specs he read somewhere that convinced him it wasn't one of, if not the best, IFV on the market. Obviously next gen tech with the capabilities the F-35 has isn't going to come out hot and ready to eat. In fact, if you'd like to see an increase in the reliability of American military research and development, then I more than welcome you to STFU and go do it yourself 👍
could you do a video with a more thorough examination of the rest of the plane?
ohhhh yessssss!
In all reality it would go over a lot of peoples heads aircraft a very fucking complicated especially fighter craft
Ive heard comments about switches and levers more than once about soviet aircraft going all the way back to WWII and interwar period. They really loved their levers and switches
I need more stuff like this in my feed. ❤
“When the lid comes down, you’re trapped” 😂😂
It’s a lot more claustrophobic than American aircraft, I dunno how you’re meant to dogfight with that little visibility.
@@NoFlyZone31Dogfighting isn't how modern fighter planes fight. They use air-to-air missiles from long distance. If you're in a situation where you NEED to dogfight in a modern fighter, you've probably made some serious mistakes
@@singularkakapo Point still Stands, how the hell are you supposed to do anything when you can barely see?
@@NoFlyZone31this wasn't a dog fighting plane. It was an interceptor. Meant to go fast in a line.
@@thebro6204 Good luck seeing where you’re going.
Thank you, Steve Canyon !
Lets not forget the wing fences needed to prevent the air from defecting to the wing tip.
LOL!!!
Hahaha! Must be an East German Flogger? 😂
As a friend of mine, who flew the Mig23 has noted to me. When seated on the parachute, the pilot sits higher and has better vision
Hahahaha
@@offspringfan89 that is the way it is supposed to be operated Pennywise
I remember the movie FIREFOX and Gantz said...
" It could use few improvements here and there..."
He had just stolen one of the worlds most advanced and deadly fighter aircraft in the world...and he was critiquing it on some of its faults...he said this to the Secretary of Defense in the Soviet Military..
I always get a warm and fuzzy feeling when I watch that part..
FIREFOX...a great movie by
Clint Eastwood
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Every system's switches are in their respective groups. Circuit breakers on one panel, all the engine management switches on a single panel, all the fuel management switches on a separate panel. I don't know what's "illogical order" about that, especially considering an American pilot has to turn in their cockpit multiple times in contemporary American jets - since switches of a system (engine, fuel, etc.) were scattered all across the cockpit back then. While the Americans had to adapt a "3-sweep method" (plus BIT) on startup, Soviets (and other European pilots) mostly ever needed one sweep (again, plus BIT).
The fact that even the Americans admit that it took much less time for a Soviet jet (of this era) to get in the air than a contemporary American jet speaks for itself.
I'm not saying Soviet fighters were better - starting with the 60s, newer Eastern planes started to lag behind newer Western ones, and the technological gap just kept getting wider and wider throughout the rest of the Cold War (and beyond). I'm just saying you should give credit where credit's due - even though there were hundreds of switches, Soviet cockpits were much more logical and intuitive than contemporary American ones.
And they could build them for a fraction of the cost of US jets, and use a field to launch, land and maintain them.
@@iwineverygame1995 These planes essentially crafted around the fact that maintenance may be not great or with longer periods between.
And some jets like MiG-29 designed to fly from temporary field, hence upper airshafts in the wings just for takeoff (to not suck leaves and debris in the engine)
You can hear the disdain in his voice for this plane 🤣
Big time 😂😂
Americans ALWAYS have disdain for ANYTHING that isn't American. That's how American society brainwashes their people.
Yeah partly due to its overly complicated design plus many americans got shot down by this plane.
@@Denozo88 Are you sure about that? The aircraft has a grand total of 6 air to air kills across all nations that operate it. 2 in cuba (the victims were from a nonprofit organization), 3 in ethopia and 1 during a Georgian border violation in 2008. So exactly how many americans were shot down by this aircraft?
THe Mig-29 has also seen 18 air to air losses, 5 of which occured in the Gulf War.
@@Denozo88or you need to reread what you said and realize that isn’t remotely true.
Some people are capable of having objective opinions, the MiG-23 wasn’t a great aircraft design
Something that I’ve always liked about this channel and the British Tank channel. Is how knowledgeable they are and how even though some of the equipment they have is from enemy nations. They will tell us about the good and the bad stuff. An it doesn’t matter if it’s enemy nation equipment or our own nation’s equipment they will still explain the good the bad and the ugly. Because no matter what there’s always going to be trade offs that’s done.
“What about this White Stripe?” “Oh that’s just my favorite band”.
First time I sat inside the museum Flogger at Nellis I thought, “Man, this one sh!tty cockpit! Feels like I’m in an old Locomotive.”
Some astronauts compared space station ISS with sojuz with that analogy ... modern digital vs steam locomotive primitive
@@edzus100 steam locomotive primitive, but still safe, reliable and relatively cheap
@@Floppa.TheCat Watch an ISS tour. The American section is open with plenty of room and in the Russian section they live like sardines in a can. Claustrophobic conditions have no reliability advantage. They're just more shitty.
I never heard of a pilot refer to the canopy as "the lid"
I think he did it on purpose, joking about feeling like he was at the bottom of a jar or other vessel
You'd be surprised to know that in many languages, there are features they call "figure of speech"
In English it's called a figure of speech, it also exists in other languages too
“Sir I am losing control what do I do!?”
“See the white line? Put your stick there.”
The cockpit isn’t a mess, it’s simplified. Everything goes left to right
He’s just comparing it to western styles of cockpit organization. This plane contradicts his logic on how a cockpit should be organized. It’s all based on personal experience
@@-di-johnson6706 american pilots trying to understand foreign cockpits: it's not like ours == it's a mess
@@rubotok3703I’m more familiar with firearms than with fighter planes, but it’s kinda like the age-old AK vs AR debate. People here in the US are always saying how the AR is ergonomically superior to the AK, but the truth is that they operate according to different ergonomic principles. The AK, for example, is naturally ambidextrous. ARs are great if you’re right-handed but not so great if you’re a southpaw. That’s why in the civilian market, there are specialized left-handed versions of the AR available. But you never see a left-handed version of the AK because it simply isn’t necessary; that’s part of the genius of the design. The Russians just have their own way of doing things; sometimes it is impractical but it can also be very clever.
For a moment I thought Ron Swanson was educating me on airplanes
That would be a lifetime experience to sit in something along those lines, And I thank every service man and woman that has flown our way to freedom.
I LOVE THIS STUFF!!!!!😊😊😊😊
Makes the Wright Brother’s flyer easy to fly in comparison.
Any jet does
You are a true talent, don't ever stop creating.
“You sit very deep”
Next moment proceeds to show a switch with “move seat upwards” on it.
I wouldn’t trust that man to teach me anything about eastern tech.
He has the arrogant air about him. Like 90% of fudd guntubers
Dumbass
@@josedorsaith5261 idiot
“Tell me about this white stripe”
“Well sure, it’s a piece of shit”😂😂
You make it look so effortless.
The Mig-23... Like a Bull, every time you get on it, it just wants to kill you.
Let me guess you're a soviet ace pilot aren't you? No you aren't
american grandad schooling Siviet engineers in logic... tell me you are american without telling me you are american lol
I love seeing the old soviet stuff and how they built it, fascinating
Good ol' brute force Russian engineering.
Which seems to mostly exist in the heads of salty Vietnam vets.
Ah yes, good ol' brute force engineering that works about as often as you'd expect something engineered with brute force to work, sometimes... Truly one of the methods of manufacturing to ever exist.
Like F104 starfighter
Fuck Lockheed for bribing countries to adopt the starfighter. Lot of good pilots died because of their greed.
Yes, the American 'Widowmaker'.
@@kc5402GERMAN widowmaker. Worked fine for the US. Krauts tried using it for things it wasn't intended for .
Worse actually, cuz while the 104 got fixed the flogger never evolved^^
Heck i fly DCS mig21 and more than half of the cockpit, switches, and the entire flight stick are straight up mig21 parts (THIS IS 50s TECHNOLOGY)
@kc5402 The 104 is only known as the widow maker because Germany misused a fast interceptor as a low pass strategic bomber fighter.
The deep seating is due to the MiG-23 being designed for a secondary role as ground-attack ("shturmovik") with unguided rockets, well within the range of flak. Dedicated fighters such as Su-9/11/15 had higher seating and bubble-type canopies, while the Su-27 was even more extreme in sinking the pilot into an armored tub. One might consider the Su-23 a midget F-111.
There’s a documentary about the production of their hinds. They engineer all of this so it would be hard to comprehend from a western POV
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Your positivity is infectious.
Sounds like a death trap
You never fly my dear?
@@obivankeno2068 not in Migs
Just looks junky
It's soviet.
yeah it's 70 years old of course it's gonna look like that😐
@@PaxthingYeah .Junk like Mig21 shoot down two F16
The migs are still the best fighter jets in the world
@djjaysky9071 Migs got smoke checked way more than any Nato fighters. Sure they were fast as fuck and had competent weapons. Just look at the mig21 the only reason for its success in Vietnam was the fact that US leadership sent wave after wave of pilots on the same, easily predictable flight paths, on the same targets, over and over again. For the Soviet trained Viet Mig pilots, they might as well have been working a repetitive, wage slave job. Wake up, haul ass and bully some B-52s and F-4s with the help of S-75 Dvina SAM systems also donated by the Soviets. If the Americans air campaign was directed by men actually in country, rather than foreign policy apperatchiks in DC, the communist pilots wouldn't have been skeet shooting Americans and Australians out of the sky like migrating geese.
I can listen to veterans talking about planes from their day for hours. Toured an aircraft carrier and there was 80+ year old vets ready to tell you absolutely everything about the aircrafts
Your voice is so soothing.
This is absolutely fantastic!
Well explained, magic listening to a man who knows his stuff!
Man I don’t know shit about planes but getting a vkb stick for star citizen made me really appreciate the build quality of them. Especially when they’re worn and beaten
This is addictively good content.
great and beautiful aircraft from 1967 , way ahead of its time
That ejection seat is as low as it can go. You can see that by the gap between the parachute and the back support.
I would really enjoy this, listening to this man !!!
Migs have many many kills!
It's like any other airframe! You must have hours, and you must become one with the airplane and it's capabilities.
Thank you for this. Always wondered.
“A lot of switches, none in an order or logical sense”
For an American, for Russians they are quite logical. For a Russian/Soviet pilots, once they sit down into American plane, they will think absolutely the same thing. Logic is a cultural thing, and every culture thinks differently.
❤thank you for your service ❤
This is truly amazing!
A mig 23 went down in my city during an air show almost took out an apartment building pretty wild
the reason it was "so prone to go out of control" was that compared to western aircraft designs russian designs dont limit your aoa, which means you can easily stall it, especially in a stressful situation.
the elevator trim on the stick and the other trims on the board is a comfort thing. the only thing you really need to trim in a jet is the elevator as weapons loadout and fuel change the cg changes slightly and with that the elevator trim. ruddern and aileeon on the other hand dont really change, so its fine to have them somewhere less accessible.
this pilot has only ever been tought and thought about "how western designs are superior", but there is rhyme and reason behind most descisions made everywhere. when you start to look into them they start making sense and quite often you'll find yourself liking a mix of the two.
Him; "It has this really awesome feature, better than any other plane of its time!"
Also him; "But it doesn't have large enough cupholders, throw it in the bin with the rest of the trash where it belongs."
I love reading comments about old pilots telling stories
Love this video thank you!
Inventor: "How's the jet?"
Him: "Its tight-"
Inventor: "Alright lets go with this one."
The little patch of worn paint on the “oh shit” line tells you enough about that specific aircraft
This is very touching!
Props for this guy for giving respect to the aircraft
"...because the airplane was so prone to go out of control"
Sounds very reassuring!