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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 ก.ย. 2024
- 1-Dan Professional player Stephanie Yin and the New York Institute of Go presents the most common Joseki mistakes by 30-20 Kyu players. In a previous video, 1-Dan Professional Ryan Li demonstrated the common joseki for 30-20 kyu players, in this video, Stephanie demonstrates how to prevent joseki mistakes
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After i like youtube aga, dwyrin and nick sibicky i now really like this teaching here. I hope you keep going and grow for many years. Thank you and greetings from germany. A., 12kyu
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I love these common mistake series. I learn a lot from the explanations and examples why those moves are wrong.
This video series is amazing for beginners like me :) thank you Stephanie
This is great Stephanie Yin, much appreciated and great to go back and recall lessons.
I am working through most of your videos. And thank you for the clarity and validity of what you say. However. This is not really 20-30k level - it applies beyond that level, for sure. But this is a minor point - the material is what matters and it is great food for thought.
Well I'm 5 kyu (ostensibly) and I still learned something here (with the reason for three-space jump in the last joseki). So thanks!
Thanks so much I am 5kyu but still do all the mistakes you mentioned.
would you say this level of instruction is way over the head of absolute beginners?
I do not trust AI blindly, and I know very little about joseki, but I want to bring up that I loaded all positions to katago (after filling all 4 corners) and it disagrees with considering the 2-space extension at 5:40 to be a mistake.
Katago says the 2-space extension loses about 0.3 points, and the 3-space extension loses 0.5 points (and for the 3-space extension, the kick-nobi exchange loses 0.6 points for the kicker)
OGS' joseki dictionary also says tenuki and the 2-space extension are currently preferred by professionals over the 3-space extension. This doesn't prove it's better but if professionals play it then it can't be a mistake right?
Great videos!
great reference!!
I noticed after the attach and hane, you alter how long the cut protection should be. is the longer cut protection okay because you created more liberties by pushing into the corner and making an iron pillar?
at 3:30ish, why does B4 prevent black from kicking C5?
Hi!
I'm 9k and learned a lot in 6 minutes here!
I do not doubt that this is useful for some people, however, it is not clear that the feeling that it is will significantly affect my results against other 30 kyu level players will translate into a real impact on results. A much stronger opponent could deliberately make these mistakes, and easily still win. Many references to subjective judgments are swallowed by lower players because we trust her judgment, but her judgment is based upon a mountain of tactical experience which influences a player in many ways they are not even aware of. Same is true for beginner videos on Shogi - the "beginner" videos are much less digestible than the video makers believe them to be. Maybe I am just too much of a beginner to be helped by these instructions. I probably should go thru a lot of graded go problems, and then come back? (I do NOT pretend to be anything close to an expert on go instruction) Feel free to tell me I am completely wrong.
This video does not claim to be a 30 kyu instructions video, instead it shows common errors in the joseki patterns that those tend to play
My suggestion for a 30k -10k players is know the very basic patterns shown before and just play a lot of games, if possible play them online against humans, playing against a good teacher is even better
Anybody else think she looks like Seulgi from Red Velvet?