I've been playing it this way, but past weekend I went to the Sheffield gt, and the TOs, including Josh from the metawatch videos, told me that this is not how it works. You cannot do this unfortunately - the unit must have the ability on the datasheet.
Great tactics and advice, thanks for bringing this video out so soon. I’m a casual player so Eldrad is going to definitely be in my next list most likely solo and I just love playing the avatar anyway. He’s practically been in every list I’ve had for around 20 years. I played the avatar in my first ever game of 40K and he performed amazing even though we didn’t really know what we were doing, he’s been a staple ever since 😂
Really liking these focused model videos. Learning a lot about what each model can offer. Looking forward to any more in the future, especially if there is any phoenix lords on the horizon.
Totally agree. Brent, you Wayleaper video really helped me in my last game. As I’ve just ordered a Legendary Outcast and my fav Craftworld being Alaitoc, this would be my vote for a PL video!
Comments for the material elf living in the material Craftworld! I was happy to hear you mentioned the warlock conclave in the LVO list that did pretty well! I was anticipating your take. Thanks Brent!
I saw that too, and I frankly have no idea how or why. I looked carefully at the list and my best guess is they were there to keep the footseer from being killed by Nightspinners in mirror matches
@@WBConcilio I tried running a grouyp out of a falcon for the rerolls. full sized squad with a leader and yea, it was fun but they did not pay for themselves. I just love falcons, always looking for an excuse.
Worth clarifying that It's not just foot Farseers that can bounce Branching Fates to Eldrad. Farseer Skyrunners have the exact same wording so you can use the same trick with them.
I’ve been looking at starting a wraith themed list with pretty much nothing more than wraith constructs and a couple seers. I came across your channel and I’ve been binging it and learning SO much about the faction that my bank accounts coming under threat from seeing what i can do with all the other cool units too. Thank you for the great content :)
Great video as always. The fate dice nerf is a bit of a bummer but as a long time Ulthwe player and fan I’m so pleased that Eldrad is relevant again…..😂
Love you advice, as always! I asked the question of how to use Eldrad a few weeks back on Reddit and got some good responses… but getting a video from you about that exact subject is Christmas come early. I need to get in this pattern discord already. Thank you for all the info you provide for those of us who only get to play once a month. Really helps
Really dig the colour scheme on that Eldrad, any clues on the yellow/gold used? A little less “boney” than the box art 💀 Cheers for the video Brent, top tier as always.
I used the following - Zandri Dust base coat for whole cloak inner including the sash, then Averland Sunset, Ushabti Bone, Yriel Yellow, Seraphim Sephia, Yriel Yellow, Screaming Skull, Pallid Wych Flesh.
Hello there, considering buying mi first models of 40k, Soo far the Astra Militarum and Crafts world are appealing, thou really only understand the guard play style, could you explain in a video the fundamentals and basic units for a dumb newbie in 10 edition?
Funny, got him yesterday with 2 additional warlocks+tons of new colors. I know, specially warlocks are far from being good but I like the new Eldrad Ulthran and warlock minis.
Its a very interesting piece, now that eldar are nerfed i can start that space elf army without people saying that im chasing the meta, and the model is very pretty
When the Eldar community needs him Brent is always there🫡. I now have an excellent reason and effective ways to play to play my recently painted Eldrad model 🙂. Thankyou Brent.
Tuesday nights MVP vs Votann. Solo in strat res, came in turn three to BEL/Homers fixed. Within 18" of a LandFort, got the doom off - scored 7 secondary. Side note, 5 Fire Dragons with guide then one shot that Fortress, what a turn. Doom is brilliant! Same turn 4. Then turn 5. Phantasm was still enough to keep him out of LOS from the potential threats. Also was my first Eldar model I only bought as a painting hobby piece. 10k points later and it's all his fault...
Just cant run him solo. Indirect and 3" deepstrikes with shooting. Im struggling to get a list together that feels good that includes him, because if you have him, you need bodyguards, and you also want to run farseers of both kinds. Are you going to do a post slate list you think is optimal ?
Hey, weird request, but with pariah nexus just coming out, and with a lot of the flexibility and customizability of this edition being hidden in crusade mode, could you do a video talking about some of the Eldar synergies with the traits, relics, etc from pariah and tyrannic war? I'd love to see your thoughts on the real, non competitive version of the game.
Great video. No mention of doom + haywire combo? I plan to combine eldrad with sky-weavers but perhaps I am missing something or why that may not be as good as it sounds on paper…
It's not bad, and I should have mentioned it. It does rely on your opponent moving vehicle units within 18" of Eldrad in a list with Sky Weavers, but I suppose you could also start him in reserve for this
I can see a combo with Eldrad, a Vyper and Shroud Runners. (army wide: lethal hits, +1 to wound, ignores cover, all on the same unit) You could split this to make more units more vulnerable and that's probably better but I'm a casual player and this seems like more fun.
@@terranaxiomuk Sure! Basically: Movement phase: you want to get eldrad within 18" of the unit, with line of sight, as well as the shrowd runners within 12" of target with line of sight. Hornet should be within 18" to make sure you'll get the hit, but it can still work at 36" if you manage to hit with the brightlance (1A, 3+, eldar reroll, should hit) (or you can get the missile launcher on it to do D6 attacks at 48" but it's not the best weapon ig). Shooting phase: At the start of the shooting phase you activate both Shrowd runners' Target Acquisition ability (at the start of shooting select 1 enemy unit within 12" visible to this unit. Until end of phase, friendly eldar weapons have the Lethal Hits ability when targeting that unit), as well as Eldrad's Doom ability (start off phase, select 1 enemy unit within 18" and visible to this unit, roll 1D6: on a 2+, until end of turn, every attack from a friendly Eldar unit has +1 to wound roll when targeting this unit. It carries over to melee unlike the SR one). Then, your first ranged attack will be the Vyper: you want it to hit. If it hits, you can trigger the Harrassment Fire ability (in shooting phase, after this model has shot, select 1 enemy unit Hit by 1/more of those attacks. Until end of phase, that unit cannot have benefit of cover). And just like that, if you can get a 2+ on Eldrad and at least one 3+ (w/ eldar reroll) on Vyper, the rest of your army will have lethal hits, +1 to wound roll, and ignores cover when targeting that specific unit. It's a pretty hefty ability investment on only one target unit (eldrad 110, SR 80, Vyper 85, tot 275pts worth of abilities, though the shooting can still go elsewhere if you want, other than the Vyper's), and you would probably gain more from splitting those abilities on multiple enemy units, but it's a great way to ensure an unit is not going to survive the turn, and it's fun
@@terranaxiomuk Also, technically nothing prevents you from doing this (minus Eldrad) on 2 units (technically up to 3), by having 2 Vypers and 2 units of Shroud Runners (army wide lethal hits and ignores cover on 2 enemy units), but that starts to eat up points you'd most likely rather put somewhere else
Brent, I enjoyed the video, as always. I’m wondering though, if Eldrad is behind the Avatar, then what is the foot farseer doing? If I’m not using fortune on the Avatar then I’m not sure what I’d use it on. Might a farseer skyrunner be a better farseer compliment to Eldrad? A farseer skyrunner leading some windriders might be more useful than having a farseer in the backline just to get access to branching fates.
The foot farseer can put Fortune on the Avatar turn 1 before it moves, and could move with Eldrad if you want it to and have nothing else for it to do in the backfield. I am never at a loss for a good target for Fortune. But yeah, you could use a Skyrunner for sure
So I've done a fin thing with Eldrad, which by no means is a good/competitive thing to do, but funny none the less. I put him in a falcon with 4 warlocks with spears doom a deep strike them in doom and falcon a unit and light them up. I've had surprisingly good results with it. But I doubt it would work on the top tables. But the look on my opponents face is always funny.
Great video, but i think you missed the point bodyguards. A unit of warlock conclave (2 models) is by far the best body guard for eldrad. 1) cheap 2) Eldrad needs to be in the middle, warlocks hide well in ruins with phantasm 3) 4+ invulnerable save and -1 to wound in combination with hiding and a bully unit in front, is incredibly resilient !!
I don't think -1 to wound on T3 models is resilient. The invuln is good, be even a small squad of space marines with bolters can easily wipe the bodyguard
@@WBConcilio i think eldrad should be played as support, hence the cheap warlocks, and ONLY opportunistically attack trying to assassinate a character model. He would be behind a ruin with the warlocks, comes out, doom, then when available phantasm to go behind the wall. In front of him would be a Khaine, and Eldrad would feed the Khaine sixes by extending the Farseer range. Why would i have him face marines?? His role is to support khaine with sixes and other units with Doom
I wonder about the bodyguard stuff. In my opinion Warlock Conclave with 4 is pointed better than guardians. Its an additional 8 wounds (less), but with the -1 wound and the 4++ def better i guess. I intend to use doom several times; my take on that is that enemies are going to want to kill him, and to hide him is not an optimal choice if you are going to be running doom several times and spent your cp on other stuff. I want to take Blades in front of him; then 10 DA with asurmen and eldard with the guys in the open turn 1. You can always lightning fast that unit, making it rly cost ineffecient ro remove (Castigator worst scenario: 9 shots; 4 hit, 3 wound, 1 save = 1 dead), if he targets the DA you run it on those guys instead. Im gonna try this out; i think 2-3 times getting out doom can be evil. And as we know: All the big stuff is coming at ya, and every single unit is gonna multiply on this dude!
I don't know, the phantasm 1" is fine in theory but it still seems much too easy to get LOS on him. Then when you set up your attack rolling a 1 on doom is just devastating, finally the 3 extra fate dice is only for the first roll so I would also assume you really lose a lot if you opt to reroll it. ...and then you hope that you're not up against any indirect. A lot of people will get amazing use out of him, especially if you can get doom off with dragons/ spiders/ specters to take advantage of it but I'm struggling
Love your vids. Eldrad is very viable now. Really missed doom. Going to give him a try for sure. For me its a tossup between him and guardians. Easy mode is guardians with their slow drip of Fate Dice and ability to hold the home objective and screen backlines of deepstrike is really nice. And running a Farseer to get FD swapped to 6s. And as you say, harder mode is a bit of points sink/risk, mind twist, to make him work.
Anyone can tell me if there's ever been a depiction of Eldrad without his mask? I always wondered why the face of such a prominent character was never shone.
@Craftworld Eldar That is absolutely how Branching Fates works, glad you mentioned that great review on everyone's soon to be favorite farseer!
Do we fear the GW might nerf that next?
@@riChchestMat Who knows 😅
I've been playing it this way, but past weekend I went to the Sheffield gt, and the TOs, including Josh from the metawatch videos, told me that this is not how it works. You cannot do this unfortunately - the unit must have the ability on the datasheet.
@@timlowesmusic That is a shame :( because that's how it is written on the farseer and farseer skyrunnners datasheet.
As a long time Ulthwé player, I was very excited to see this video, and it did not disappoint. Thank you for your timely analysis!
Great tactics and advice, thanks for bringing this video out so soon. I’m a casual player so Eldrad is going to definitely be in my next list most likely solo and I just love playing the avatar anyway. He’s practically been in every list I’ve had for around 20 years. I played the avatar in my first ever game of 40K and he performed amazing even though we didn’t really know what we were doing, he’s been a staple ever since 😂
That is awesome
Great stuff on eldrad!!! I didn't notice the ability bounce!!! I think we will see him way more now.
Really liking these focused model videos.
Learning a lot about what each model can offer. Looking forward to any more in the future, especially if there is any phoenix lords on the horizon.
Yeah Brent is by far the best channel strategist I’ve ever found and being pure eldar just makes him awesome 🤩 legend 👌
Totally agree. Brent, you Wayleaper video really helped me in my last game. As I’ve just ordered a Legendary Outcast and my fav Craftworld being Alaitoc, this would be my vote for a PL video!
Comments for the material elf living in the material Craftworld!
I was happy to hear you mentioned the warlock conclave in the LVO list that did pretty well! I was anticipating your take. Thanks Brent!
I saw that too, and I frankly have no idea how or why. I looked carefully at the list and my best guess is they were there to keep the footseer from being killed by Nightspinners in mirror matches
@@WBConcilio I tried running a grouyp out of a falcon for the rerolls. full sized squad with a leader and yea, it was fun but they did not pay for themselves. I just love falcons, always looking for an excuse.
@@BentJacket I honestly think they may have been a narrative include in that GT list.
Worth clarifying that It's not just foot Farseers that can bounce Branching Fates to Eldrad. Farseer Skyrunners have the exact same wording so you can use the same trick with them.
I’ve been looking at starting a wraith themed list with pretty much nothing more than wraith constructs and a couple seers. I came across your channel and I’ve been binging it and learning SO much about the faction that my bank accounts coming under threat from seeing what i can do with all the other cool units too. Thank you for the great content :)
@@NatchoDragon so glad you are finding it useful!
Great video as always.
The fate dice nerf is a bit of a bummer but as a long time Ulthwe player and fan I’m so pleased that Eldrad is relevant again…..😂
Love you advice, as always! I asked the question of how to use Eldrad a few weeks back on Reddit and got some good responses… but getting a video from you about that exact subject is Christmas come early. I need to get in this pattern discord already. Thank you for all the info you provide for those of us who only get to play once a month. Really helps
Oh, it's my great pleasure!!
Great video, very cool ideas on how to use Eldrad!
Really dig the colour scheme on that Eldrad, any clues on the yellow/gold used? A little less “boney” than the box art 💀
Cheers for the video Brent, top tier as always.
I am pretty sure that yellow is Vallejo, but I couldn't tell you exactly which shade at this point
I used the following - Zandri Dust base coat for whole cloak inner including the sash, then Averland Sunset, Ushabti Bone, Yriel Yellow, Seraphim Sephia, Yriel Yellow, Screaming Skull, Pallid Wych Flesh.
Hello there, considering buying mi first models of 40k, Soo far the Astra Militarum and Crafts world are appealing, thou really only understand the guard play style, could you explain in a video the fundamentals and basic units for a dumb newbie in 10 edition?
That is the next video topic!
Another cracking video, thank you.
Great video and gives he a good way to try and play him again.
Thanks so much for all your great work, Brent! Another great video, and likely to make me take a second look at the man himself.
Funny, got him yesterday with 2 additional warlocks+tons of new colors. I know, specially warlocks are far from being good but I like the new Eldrad Ulthran and warlock minis.
I am playing a narrative game against Necrons next week and am planning to run Eldar+ 4 warlocks in a Falcon just for fun haha
Great video once again, ty
Its a very interesting piece, now that eldar are nerfed i can start that space elf army without people saying that im chasing the meta, and the model is very pretty
Exactly
This was amazingly helpful, thank you so much for making this video 🤩✨
Oh, my great pleasure! I hope you will check out some of the others :)
When the Eldar community needs him Brent is always there🫡. I now have an excellent reason and effective ways to play to play my recently painted Eldrad model 🙂. Thankyou Brent.
Go go Utlhwé big bro !
Great video, keep up the hard work o/
Tuesday nights MVP vs Votann. Solo in strat res, came in turn three to BEL/Homers fixed. Within 18" of a LandFort, got the doom off - scored 7 secondary. Side note, 5 Fire Dragons with guide then one shot that Fortress, what a turn. Doom is brilliant!
Same turn 4. Then turn 5. Phantasm was still enough to keep him out of LOS from the potential threats.
Also was my first Eldar model I only bought as a painting hobby piece. 10k points later and it's all his fault...
woot!!
Just cant run him solo. Indirect and 3" deepstrikes with shooting. Im struggling to get a list together that feels good that includes him, because if you have him, you need bodyguards, and you also want to run farseers of both kinds. Are you going to do a post slate list you think is optimal ?
I will do a post on the best units for competitive play and make suggestions for synergies
Hey, weird request, but with pariah nexus just coming out, and with a lot of the flexibility and customizability of this edition being hidden in crusade mode, could you do a video talking about some of the Eldar synergies with the traits, relics, etc from pariah and tyrannic war?
I'd love to see your thoughts on the real, non competitive version of the game.
Great video. No mention of doom + haywire combo? I plan to combine eldrad with sky-weavers but perhaps I am missing something or why that may not be as good as it sounds on paper…
It's not bad, and I should have mentioned it. It does rely on your opponent moving vehicle units within 18" of Eldrad in a list with Sky Weavers, but I suppose you could also start him in reserve for this
I can see a combo with Eldrad, a Vyper and Shroud Runners.
(army wide: lethal hits, +1 to wound, ignores cover, all on the same unit)
You could split this to make more units more vulnerable and that's probably better but I'm a casual player and this seems like more fun.
Can you explain how that works please?.
@@terranaxiomuk
Sure! Basically:
Movement phase: you want to get eldrad within 18" of the unit, with line of sight, as well as the shrowd runners within 12" of target with line of sight. Hornet should be within 18" to make sure you'll get the hit, but it can still work at 36" if you manage to hit with the brightlance (1A, 3+, eldar reroll, should hit) (or you can get the missile launcher on it to do D6 attacks at 48" but it's not the best weapon ig).
Shooting phase:
At the start of the shooting phase you activate both Shrowd runners' Target Acquisition ability (at the start of shooting select 1 enemy unit within 12" visible to this unit. Until end of phase, friendly eldar weapons have the Lethal Hits ability when targeting that unit), as well as Eldrad's Doom ability (start off phase, select 1 enemy unit within 18" and visible to this unit, roll 1D6: on a 2+, until end of turn, every attack from a friendly Eldar unit has +1 to wound roll when targeting this unit. It carries over to melee unlike the SR one).
Then, your first ranged attack will be the Vyper: you want it to hit. If it hits, you can trigger the Harrassment Fire ability (in shooting phase, after this model has shot, select 1 enemy unit Hit by 1/more of those attacks. Until end of phase, that unit cannot have benefit of cover).
And just like that, if you can get a 2+ on Eldrad and at least one 3+ (w/ eldar reroll) on Vyper, the rest of your army will have lethal hits, +1 to wound roll, and ignores cover when targeting that specific unit.
It's a pretty hefty ability investment on only one target unit (eldrad 110, SR 80, Vyper 85, tot 275pts worth of abilities, though the shooting can still go elsewhere if you want, other than the Vyper's), and you would probably gain more from splitting those abilities on multiple enemy units, but it's a great way to ensure an unit is not going to survive the turn, and it's fun
@@terranaxiomuk
Also, technically nothing prevents you from doing this (minus Eldrad) on 2 units (technically up to 3), by having 2 Vypers and 2 units of Shroud Runners (army wide lethal hits and ignores cover on 2 enemy units), but that starts to eat up points you'd most likely rather put somewhere else
@Row. That looks quality mate.
@@terranaxiomuk thanks
Reckon he might be a staple take now. Cheaper than a wayleaper, doom, and the +3 FD back to 9.
Brent, I enjoyed the video, as always. I’m wondering though, if Eldrad is behind the Avatar, then what is the foot farseer doing? If I’m not using fortune on the Avatar then I’m not sure what I’d use it on. Might a farseer skyrunner be a better farseer compliment to Eldrad? A farseer skyrunner leading some windriders might be more useful than having a farseer in the backline just to get access to branching fates.
The foot farseer can put Fortune on the Avatar turn 1 before it moves, and could move with Eldrad if you want it to and have nothing else for it to do in the backfield.
I am never at a loss for a good target for Fortune.
But yeah, you could use a Skyrunner for sure
Can Eldrad start in a Falcon and still have his ability to add 3 fate die go off? Or is this ability only if he is on the battlefield/reserves?
He can start in a Falcon- or even in Reserve- and still provide the bonus :)
So I've done a fin thing with Eldrad, which by no means is a good/competitive thing to do, but funny none the less. I put him in a falcon with 4 warlocks with spears doom a deep strike them in doom and falcon a unit and light them up. I've had surprisingly good results with it. But I doubt it would work on the top tables. But the look on my opponents face is always funny.
I love this
I wonder how many miracle dice Sisters generate on average through a game
I will play mine in a conclave deep striking from a falcon to alpha strike with wind riders on turn 2 mostly anywhere.
Great video, but i think you missed the point bodyguards. A unit of warlock conclave (2 models) is by far the best body guard for eldrad.
1) cheap
2) Eldrad needs to be in the middle, warlocks hide well in ruins with phantasm
3) 4+ invulnerable save and -1 to wound in combination with hiding and a bully unit in front, is incredibly resilient !!
I don't think -1 to wound on T3 models is resilient. The invuln is good, be even a small squad of space marines with bolters can easily wipe the bodyguard
@@WBConcilio i think eldrad should be played as support, hence the cheap warlocks, and ONLY opportunistically attack trying to assassinate a character model. He would be behind a ruin with the warlocks, comes out, doom, then when available phantasm to go behind the wall. In front of him would be a Khaine, and Eldrad would feed the Khaine sixes by extending the Farseer range. Why would i have him face marines?? His role is to support khaine with sixes and other units with Doom
I wonder about the bodyguard stuff. In my opinion Warlock Conclave with 4 is pointed better than guardians. Its an additional 8 wounds (less), but with the -1 wound and the 4++ def better i guess. I intend to use doom several times; my take on that is that enemies are going to want to kill him, and to hide him is not an optimal choice if you are going to be running doom several times and spent your cp on other stuff. I want to take Blades in front of him; then 10 DA with asurmen and eldard with the guys in the open turn 1.
You can always lightning fast that unit, making it rly cost ineffecient ro remove (Castigator worst scenario: 9 shots; 4 hit, 3 wound, 1 save = 1 dead), if he targets the DA you run it on those guys instead.
Im gonna try this out; i think 2-3 times getting out doom can be evil.
And as we know: All the big stuff is coming at ya, and every single unit is gonna multiply on this dude!
Use him with a 2 units of falcons and 5 fire dragons and 5 dark reapers with tempest and fugan dropping in first turn
Blade storm on Mind War makes it a -4 ap attack.
I have had a lot of luck with storm guardians. Lots of wins. That objective secured won me a lot of game honestly, every point matters.
Personally i think in a falcon with dragons is probably the best way?
Likely true
I don't know, the phantasm 1" is fine in theory but it still seems much too easy to get LOS on him. Then when you set up your attack rolling a 1 on doom is just devastating, finally the 3 extra fate dice is only for the first roll so I would also assume you really lose a lot if you opt to reroll it.
...and then you hope that you're not up against any indirect. A lot of people will get amazing use out of him, especially if you can get doom off with dragons/ spiders/ specters to take advantage of it but I'm struggling
Love your vids. Eldrad is very viable now. Really missed doom. Going to give him a try for sure. For me its a tossup between him and guardians. Easy mode is guardians with their slow drip of Fate Dice and ability to hold the home objective and screen backlines of deepstrike is really nice. And running a Farseer to get FD swapped to 6s. And as you say, harder mode is a bit of points sink/risk, mind twist, to make him work.
Fair analysis
Anyone can tell me if there's ever been a depiction of Eldrad without his mask? I always wondered why the face of such a prominent character was never shone.
I thought about it and put him back in the box
😂
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Like most of the Eldar characters he’s super squishy and gives up assassinate to chaff units like flesh hounds.