Talib Kweli And El-P Talk Run The Jewels 4, Killer Mike, Company Flow, & Rawkus | People's Party

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  • On this episode of People's Party, Talib Kweli and Jasmin Leigh sit down with musician, rapper, songwriter, record producer, record executive, and icon of the underground, El-P. They dig into a wide range of subjects -- including El-P's signature "noisy" production style, how Run The Jewels with Killer Mike came into existence, Zack De La Rocha living at El-P's house after Rage Against Machine broke up, and what led to the breakup of El-P's own group, Company Flow, around the same time.
    Later Talib and El-P trade their stories on how they got signed to Rawkus Records -- the mecca of the underground scene in the late 90's. El-P also opens up about his song "Last Good Sleep," which outlines his own experiences dealing with domestic violence as a child. His record label Def Jux is also discussed, as well as what we can expect for his up and coming album "Run The Jewels 4" with Killer Mike.
    The whole interview is filled with moments that are insightful, introspective, and often hilarious. (You have to see El-P's Björk joke.)
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    Interview Timing:
    1:47 -- Talib reminisces on blazing a blunt with El-P at the late 90's Gavin Convention event in San Diego. El-P responds with concerns about early-onset dementia.
    5:19 -- El-P explains the origins of his unique production style, finding its roots in the sounds of the city. He also gives his take on "old New York" vs. "new New York".
    7:57 -- El-P speaks on meeting Killer Mike, which quickly turned into them forming their group Run The Jewels and connecting over shared influences like Ice Cube and Run DMC.
    10:55 -- Talib asks El-P about Zack De La Rocha living at his house in Brooklyn after disbanding from Rage Against Machine. (The tracks they recorded are still not available to the public.)
    13:20 -- El-P talks about he and Killer Mike finding their shared vision for what would be Run The Jewels' political angle.
    16:01 -- Talib asks El-P if the testosterone-driven sound of his music is intentional. El-P opens up about the multiple lanes that Run The Jewels takes on lyrical content, evenly balancing politics and comedy.
    20:28 -- Talib shares the first time he met Killer Mike, and dubs El-P The Björk of hip-hop. El-P speaks on growing up listening to film scores and mentions the soundtrack he did for a yet to be released movie called "Fonzo" starring Tom Hardy as Al Capone.
    23:46 -- Talib asks El-P why his group Company Flow broke up after one album. El-P gives some detailed history on the group's early start -- sending their CD's through the Tower Records mail room while employed there.
    29:46 -- Talib asks El-P if he ever felt any level of competition with him at Rawkus Records, both being members of leading acts there, even though they were worlds apart in the sonic sense. They trade stories of getting signed to Rawkus and zone in on its role as the main conduit in rolling out the late 90's independent hip-hop scene to the masses.
    40:52 -- Jasmin brings up El-P's mentioning of liking to do things that scare him creatively and asks him what his next venture is on that front.
    43:06 -- El-P reflects on his father's occupation as a lounge jazz musician, playing passionately with sometimes little to no applause. He tells how that visual never let him forget the love of music always comes paramount over anything else.
    49:13 -- Talib asks El-P if he ever felt obligated to address race issues in his music. El-P wonders how people can be fans of hip-hop, but not be empathetic to the black experience.
    1:01:52 -- El-P opens up about the lyrics to his powerful song with Company Flow titled "Last Good Sleep", stemming from his own personal experiences with domestic violence as a child.
    1:09:23 -- El-P fills us in on how he came up with his name, then speaks on his record label Def Jux that he co-founded in '99, expanding on how the attention that it received didn't necessarily reflect the project's original intentions.
    1:14:34 -- Talib asks El-P about self-care now, after years of not being a priority. He also talks about Mac Miller reaching out to collaborate a year before his passing and Talib asks El-P if he has any veteran advice for young emcees coming up.
    1:18:11 -- El-P gives us insight into the next Run The Jewels project "RTJ4" and leaves everyone hyped for its release.
    1:20:53 -- Jasmin puts El-P on the spot by asking about his stance on the upcoming presidential election. He conveys in detail how Killer Mike helped clarify his own participation in the political process.
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  • @UPROXXVideo
    @UPROXXVideo  4 ปีที่แล้ว +205

    Thanks for watching, y'all. One of our best and most important episodes yet! We're climbing in the Apple Podcasts rankings. Help keep the momentum going by subscribing and rating! applepodcasts.com/peoplesparty
    Spotify: open.spotify.com/show/72bYFZBBZIwc7kdYUmRgFe

    • @DurdensVision
      @DurdensVision 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Thank you for the Time Stamps.

    • @UPROXXVideo
      @UPROXXVideo  4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@DurdensVision We got you!

    • @mojojojo815
      @mojojojo815 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      A lot of us been waiting on this conversation! Thank you El-P. Thank you Talib.

    • @tonyphonehome1
      @tonyphonehome1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      great interview. but that sidekick does not get half the references.

    • @gaming6feetunder925
      @gaming6feetunder925 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@UPROXXVideo yoooo we need Aesop Rock, Slug since you're giving a shout out to underground legends

  • @yonnihils
    @yonnihils 4 ปีที่แล้ว +938

    Finally a proper length El-P interview conducted by one someone who knows what they’re talking about! Thanks, Uproxx, this is one of the best interviews I’ve seen!

    • @UPROXXVideo
      @UPROXXVideo  4 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      G R A T I T U D E

    • @manatee_flips6811
      @manatee_flips6811 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Ap serious high five 🖐🏼

    • @johanskold8890
      @johanskold8890 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      There are some good Run The Jewels interviews.

    • @dwolivas
      @dwolivas 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Every RTJ interview is incredible because of Mike and Jaime. This one was incredible because of the interviewer... and also Jaime

    • @thisnameztaken
      @thisnameztaken 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Johan Sköld yeah I’m sure but original comment was strictly about el-p. Guy had a whole career before rtj and I was happy to hear him speak on it. Not like when killer mike was on Rogan and he was like, “just had run the jewels on” dafuq..

  • @ROBERTMONGER
    @ROBERTMONGER 4 ปีที่แล้ว +425

    From now on only rappers can interview rappers.

    • @chandrastar5939
      @chandrastar5939 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Lol. Yh Talib got the aptitude for it. He's an exceptional interviewer.

    • @bonappletea7294
      @bonappletea7294 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      In a perfect world, & same for any other art form! Just another reason why the podcast era is the best thing to happen to media in a minute.

    • @HashimWarren
      @HashimWarren 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Wow, facts

    • @vinniecousinofvito6401
      @vinniecousinofvito6401 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Real rap artist for that matter

    • @MrMaddzkillz
      @MrMaddzkillz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Unless that interviewer is Nardwuar

  • @Min-kp7ei
    @Min-kp7ei 4 ปีที่แล้ว +345

    Talib is SUPER on point with the white underground Hov & Bjork comparisons. El-P is undeniably a legend for his solo/group/production works.

    • @wormsali
      @wormsali 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yea that Bjork comparison is on point

    • @thcrtn
      @thcrtn 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Hes a pisces... Nuff said.

    • @haundelmaitoole9868
      @haundelmaitoole9868 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      U dj?

  • @ReasonableVoice
    @ReasonableVoice 4 ปีที่แล้ว +284

    I love El-P. This dude is competing with rappers and producers who haven't even been born yet.

    • @UPROXXVideo
      @UPROXXVideo  4 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      What a great quote. Love that.

    • @ReasonableVoice
      @ReasonableVoice 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@UPROXXVideo Thanks! Loving the podcast so far too -- going to listen to the MURS one next.
      So... is Talib going to be on the RTJ album then? 👀

    • @michaelbell4930
      @michaelbell4930 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Producers from the year 2049 probably.

    • @suleimanmustafa1473
      @suleimanmustafa1473 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Rappers from the future will travel back in time to try kill El-P

    • @kevinscott59
      @kevinscott59 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Voice of Reason
      The same could be said for Bigg Jus.Ridiculously innovative and steadfastly anti-corporate.
      Unfortunately he doesn't receive as much pub for whatever reason.

  • @YepOkay
    @YepOkay 4 ปีที่แล้ว +118

    El-P is the real deal. I've been to hundreds of shows and he's one of the few that really amazed me after-the-fact by just schmoozing with fans a bit in a way that felt incredibly genuine. Sounds dorky, but I'll never forget his attitude that night. Edit: This was in fucking IOWA no less. The thing people not from the midwest don't realize is that we KNOW we're from the midwest. We're not naive. We like good music too. When people like El-P show us love, it means that much more.

    • @IbelieveinJesusAmen
      @IbelieveinJesusAmen 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I was tripping when I saw the Cedar Rapids orchestra pay tribute to Dilla a la Miguel....

    • @soulfireclash2882
      @soulfireclash2882 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Copywrite was always the same too. With being cool after shows back in the day. Would always chat it up or freestyle.

    • @SonnyMeadows
      @SonnyMeadows ปีที่แล้ว

      Saw Ev from DP in Iowa City. His voice was a lil diff but good show😂

  • @xXNoFateXx
    @xXNoFateXx 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    El-P talking about hugging his mom was the most G shit that Ive ever heard in a Hip-Hop oriented interview.

  • @codywallace3041
    @codywallace3041 4 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    You can tell these two have so much respect for each other. Love this interview.

  • @CarlosHernandez-rl2wg
    @CarlosHernandez-rl2wg 4 ปีที่แล้ว +75

    Great interview Kweli. I actually met EL-P back during a "I'll Sleep When You're Dead" tour show in Gainesville, FL. Pretty down to earth guy. I got a picture with him and an autograph for my Funcrusher Plus album copy. I still remember shaking his hand and saying "Thanks for all the music. Best of luck in everything you do. And best of luck with your label.". I could see on his face that the label comment registered as an empty compliment (He wasn't angry. He just sighed and said "Thanks".). I then shortly found out that Definitive Jux was to shut down. I also remember seeing Beezy from DEHH waiting for his turn in line behind me and EL complimenting their show (I had no idea about DEHH at the time). Good to see EL is still doing good after all these years (Healthwise, and musicially). Definitely looking forward to RTJ 4.

    • @tubamilk1
      @tubamilk1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Carlos Hernandez man I was at that same show! Humble dude man. Got to meet him afterwards and got his autograph.

  • @SonnyDisco
    @SonnyDisco 4 ปีที่แล้ว +115

    I still have my El-P rookie card stuck in my bicycle spokes.

    • @dirtporcelain
      @dirtporcelain 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The illusion is broke, all cock gobblers misspoke

    • @NestedVideoProductions
      @NestedVideoProductions 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Is that you Sole?!

    • @rhettstraube2559
      @rhettstraube2559 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Boom!

    • @0oidiedinatimemachineo024
      @0oidiedinatimemachineo024 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Anonymousdeletedaccount... its a el p line from a song on the Company Flow album. Can't remember which song though lol

    • @adamsd86
      @adamsd86 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes! Why is that particular line so memorable?

  • @fairplayterrific147
    @fairplayterrific147 4 ปีที่แล้ว +260

    Cannibal Ox In The Cold Vein CLASSIC EL-P

    • @roninblax
      @roninblax 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Greatest album of all time? That and psycho-social from Jedi mind tricks?

    • @reason2910
      @reason2910 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Better than rtj imo

    • @manwh0re1
      @manwh0re1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      I wish someone would ask el-p about crafting the beats for that album. His mindset, what sort of records he was sampling, where he was getting his inspiration from etc. Because that is one of the BEST produced hip hop albums of all time imo.

    • @roninblax
      @roninblax 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Eric-vh3ur when VBD dropped I wasn't mature enough to get it so it sat for about 4 years until I picked it up again and was mind blown. The fact that Mr. Len does a skit makes it even more amazing. Both are classics imo, but its Psycho by a nose for me. I can't really get down with anything after VBD or any army of the Pharoahs.

    • @roninblax
      @roninblax 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@Eric-vh3ur I was anything Def Jux for years, labor days, funcrusher, fantastic damage, I'll sleep when your dead, weathermen(not def Jux but I know you get it). Also anything rhymesayers, stones throw or molemen; Madlib and Vakill were in heavy rotation. If it was on the radio I wasn't hearing it, but because of that attitude I missed out on so much great music.

  • @monroejones6129
    @monroejones6129 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I NEED to hear that El-P and Zach record. Shit would be wild! Especially during that era that they were staying together.

  • @Fluxwithit
    @Fluxwithit 4 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    El-p proving to me that my long time fandom of his was not ill placed lol. Such a great interview and the way they tackled some very serious topics in a real an honest way... just excellent.

    • @mzjulesghouls
      @mzjulesghouls 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I think he planned this "comeback" 20 yrs ago. Not that RTJ isn't killing it, they are... but El is releasing his old stuff now on streaming sites... people might actually be ready for it this time. ;-) Brilliant, visionary hero of mine. A mench!

  • @redespiritu161
    @redespiritu161 4 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    "Well, as Bjork once said: 'hhHHHeeehhhh...'"

    • @DynastyLuminous46
      @DynastyLuminous46 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I fucking read this as it came up in the vid.

  • @fexcab
    @fexcab 4 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    "If empathy and connection doesn't come with it then what's the GD point?"

    • @UPROXXVideo
      @UPROXXVideo  4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      facts

    • @lauderdale77
      @lauderdale77 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Felix Caballero thats the line

    • @broadneydangerfield
      @broadneydangerfield 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I love El-P for this comment, along with this entire interview's worth of is perspective. Talib, Jasmine and the entire crew have really brought us something special with this podcast. Made my 2-hour drive to Ochem class a lot easier today!

    • @daviddavidson1761
      @daviddavidson1761 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Random thought: They're going to mar the album if they talk too much about Trump on it though. There is a point of over saturation and the U.S. public is far past that.

  • @discoprotection
    @discoprotection 4 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    The part where they talk about rap fans who don't have empathy for the black community is really interesting. I grew up on hip-hop and public enemy, krs one, etc... and because of that I have a better understanding of a culture that I otherwise wouldn't know (being white). That hit home for me hearing them discuss that

    • @danielwellner7004
      @danielwellner7004 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I always think about this. I met a bunch of friends from South Jersey, who were into rap, and had no empathy or understanding of Black America and I just can't understand how. I hope you see this 4 years after you posted the orig comment. But I totally get what you're saying

    • @discoprotection
      @discoprotection หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@danielwellner7004 i see it homie

  • @RedVogt
    @RedVogt 4 ปีที่แล้ว +81

    Only checked uproxx channel 8 times this morning waiting for this episode!

    • @fairplayterrific147
      @fairplayterrific147 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      W😄RD!

    • @UPROXXVideo
      @UPROXXVideo  4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Let us know what you think!

    • @fairplayterrific147
      @fairplayterrific147 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@UPROXXVideo This Was Such A NEEDED Interview The People's Party Is Where It's At!!!!

    • @fairplayterrific147
      @fairplayterrific147 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@UPROXXVideo This Was A Much NEEDED Interview! The People's P🎉RTY Is Where It's At!!!!!

  • @toneriggz
    @toneriggz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I met El-P in 2011 in Brooklyn. He was with Killer Mike. This is before RTJ and even RAP Music. I had no idea why they were hanging out but that was the beginning of a major run for both artists. Most importantly, El and Mike were both down to Earth dudes and were about the people. It's good to see people like that have success because you know it's well deserved.

  • @ProfessorCDO
    @ProfessorCDO 4 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Love to see how much of a fan Talib is for El-P and acknowledging his career. Just too dope

  • @AntoineMalveaux
    @AntoineMalveaux 4 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    I've had the utmost respect for these two gentleman since I discovered their music(circa 01), phenomenal conversation.💯

  • @ricochetsixtyten
    @ricochetsixtyten 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I want a full documentary on El-P, such an influential dude

  • @clarktownsend8991
    @clarktownsend8991 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Props to Kweli wearing the Pumpkinhead hat in the spirit of Rawkus interview with El-P. RIP Pumpkinhead

  • @fairplayterrific147
    @fairplayterrific147 4 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    Nas & EL-P Should DEFinitely Make A Track Both Dad's Jazz Musicians Both Created Game Changing CLASSIC ALBUM(S) And Continue To Improve.... Mass Appeal Make It Happen....

    • @kristophermoffatt6071
      @kristophermoffatt6071 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      We need a Marlon Craft and EL-P album, Old New York meets New New York.

    • @fairplayterrific147
      @fairplayterrific147 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kristophermoffatt6071 Quality

    • @LouieV6
      @LouieV6 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@kristophermoffatt6071 Marlon definitely needs to be mentioned more. He's underrated as hell.

    • @Sean-fu3oi
      @Sean-fu3oi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      My favourite MC, my favourite producer. If that shit happened I'd be doing backflips.

    • @AMOKIAN
      @AMOKIAN 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nas on ELP beats……..Faaaaaaaaaaak shut it all down….

  • @ilovemikerogers
    @ilovemikerogers 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    These dudes are so much of an influence on my growing up. I'm from ATL so I could have only dreamed Killer Mike would join all this later.
    Rawkus changed my life man. I'm not a rapper, DJ, anything, but that shit made me move to NYC with no job. I just wanted to be in the city and to be around people like this.
    Rage Against the Machine was my bigtime mind changing group growing up. Their first self titled album & DJ Shadow's Endtroducing are still my favorite albums ever made. When Zack appeared and dropped that shit on Lyricist Lounge it was so amazing to send me more into that world. It was the cross between both worlds for me. I always knew Zack worked with Roni Size, Shadow, El-P back then and only a few songs got out and I always wish I could have heard more. Props to Talib for asking that question.
    I grew up in ATL on 'Kast, Goodie Mob, Field Mob, LaFace Records, etc all that while also being obsessed with the 8 Steps to Perfection buggin' like Rwanda type NYC backpacker scene made Run The Jewels turn into the craziest group. In my imagination they'd only get together if I won the lottery and put that shit together lol.
    I may not always agree Talib but I'll always respect his opinions.
    I love how relevant El-P has always been. To me he's the Trent Reznor or Maynard James Keenan of hip hop, love it or hate you still have to respect it.

  • @harryballsonya5459
    @harryballsonya5459 4 ปีที่แล้ว +110

    That'd be super dope if RTJ went on tour with Rage

    • @rexarstrongheart8880
      @rexarstrongheart8880 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And Wu-Tang

    • @drglnc69
      @drglnc69 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @emcee lama hawk then Rage a sell out? Ha! yep!!!! They gonna sell out EVERY damn show... now just sit back, relax and enjoy.

    • @drglnc69
      @drglnc69 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @emcee lama hawk then you start by realizing what the "machine" is in this instance.. they aren't raging against the music industry...

    • @thcrtn
      @thcrtn 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Is it me or does everyone see rjd2 when ppl type rtj ???

    • @thcrtn
      @thcrtn 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@drglnc69 you gotta step back and ask if its a tool or a weapon, and they said "the machine" not all machines...
      You have to use whats available to get the job done... Selling millions of albums that say the same thing... Works alot better than on one corner or in one cypher... But im sure you know this and only wanted to joke ;) no worries...
      Im not even saying this for you personally, some impressionable mind may read it and not have that sense of humor....

  • @AmMalik-yo7tw
    @AmMalik-yo7tw 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    "The overly dramatic truth" helped me go through a difficult period. Thank you El-P.

  • @AlchemyCAWS
    @AlchemyCAWS 4 ปีที่แล้ว +255

    El-P always look like an undercover cop.

    • @reedstoltz5112
      @reedstoltz5112 4 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      He would get along with Kenny Beats

    • @trile6243
      @trile6243 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@reedstoltz5112 💀

    • @DS-nq1dg
      @DS-nq1dg 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      He did play one with Everlast on Prince Paul's Prince of Thieves!

    • @peterross3411
      @peterross3411 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Del S. He’s not on that.

    • @dirtporcelain
      @dirtporcelain 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@peterross3411 He's not on the album but he plays one of the cops along side Everlast in the video th-cam.com/video/6GQfY5zGKJ0/w-d-xo.html
      jump to 6:41 in that video to see him at the door next to Everlast.

  • @jaimemartinez2528
    @jaimemartinez2528 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    2 Hip-Hop legends that help out Rawkus and the New York underground on the map. Salute to these 2 G.O.A.T.'s Talib Kweli and El Producto

  • @JeppeS782
    @JeppeS782 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thanks for this interview !
    I really like how Talib lets his guests finish and dont interrupt.
    BEST El-P interview there is.
    For us, who has been fans since the Company Flow days, this is truly a gift

  • @grizzboogie4791
    @grizzboogie4791 4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Never realized El p and Kevin Smith have the same voice til now

    • @dustinsherman449
      @dustinsherman449 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Five minutes in I'm thinking to myself since when is silent Bob a Ginger

    • @zezty4295
      @zezty4295 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      W.t.f.you called it bro.too funny.

    • @elbruces
      @elbruces 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Now I need to hear Kevin Smith flow on a beat.

  • @MrSpacecase35
    @MrSpacecase35 4 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    long live Def Jux. i want an album with Aesop and El

    • @kristophermoffatt6071
      @kristophermoffatt6071 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @Mike Dub I mean I'd like to see them come together to bring some of Eyedea's unfinished works to light, that'd be the best we could hope for in regards to them coming together on anything anytime soon.

    • @kristophermoffatt6071
      @kristophermoffatt6071 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Mike Dub Omg we probably get shown the same videos via the youtube algorithms due to our shared music interests of EL-P; smh. You should get yourself some #SWOUP if you haven't already man.

    • @kristophermoffatt6071
      @kristophermoffatt6071 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Mike Dub Oh shiet, took me a second, plus I haven't been on fb in a while lol. I can recognize that connection through Camu is stronger, but they ain't holding seances to make an album, EL-P did a shout out to Eyedea in the video for Angel Duster, and would be prime for production on the album alone.

    • @LouieV6
      @LouieV6 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think they still aren't on speaking terms.

    • @MrSpacecase35
      @MrSpacecase35 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LouieV6 sad. They were an awesome team. Rob Sonic is nice Hail Mary was funky but I still feel that El -P and Rock had better chemistry. That's just me

  • @papanovembermusic
    @papanovembermusic 4 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    El-P's story/journey is amazing. Rawkus was such a big deal for UK hip hop heads that liked their beats wonky.

    • @kevinscott59
      @kevinscott59 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      papanovembermusic
      Yeah.
      Here in the states I felt the same way about Mo' Wax and Ninja Tune in the late '90s.

    • @papanovembermusic
      @papanovembermusic 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@kevinscott59 good stuff! I still love my hip hop and my 14 yr old keeps me on my toes with new directions in beats.

    • @kevinscott59
      @kevinscott59 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      papanovembermusic
      I'm a huge fan of Kevin Martin(Techno Animal/Ice/The Bug) and Mick Harris(Napalm Death/Scorn/Lull).
      When I heard EL-P on that darkass ICE album in '98 I thought it was just perfect.

    • @papanovembermusic
      @papanovembermusic 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@kevinscott59 I was born and live in Birmingham so all that dense dark energy is very much part of the vibe here! Our city is ugly as sin so music is an escape from the post industrial bleak landscape. That said I love my city! I also love that music can be so particular but also so universal.

    • @kevinscott59
      @kevinscott59 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      papanovembermusic
      That's dope.Not enough people take into account how the physical character of a town effects artists.
      I'm from Atlanta which has a ton of trees,and I remember Outkast talking about how that impacted the Dungeon Family sound.
      I think Black Sabbath are also from Birmingham.I remember Ozzy talking about the effects of the bleak industrial landscape on their music.
      Some of my favorite artists out the UK also included Throbbing Gristle(from Manchester),Test Dept.,Crass,Coil,Current 93 and Nurse With Wound.(Mostly cats from different parts of London.)

  • @emceetv101
    @emceetv101 4 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    I love these interviews! Would love to see:
    Bumpy Knuckles, DJ Quik, Havoc, DJ House Shoes, Redman

    • @atcquentin
      @atcquentin 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Bumpy knuckles would be amazing, good call

    • @marras122
      @marras122 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Dj Quik would be dope!

    • @drokillakush5116
      @drokillakush5116 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Good suggestions. Redman would be dope

    • @King_Grizzly
      @King_Grizzly 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Redman

    • @yaboi5047
      @yaboi5047 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you check out combat jack podcast, I believe he interviewed both, plus so many og's.

  • @CHIEF-CHUY
    @CHIEF-CHUY 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is truly a blessing on TH-cam. A legend interviewing another legend. Two idols and two great minds this couldn't be anymore of an amazing channel.

  • @michaelyahner6695
    @michaelyahner6695 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    subbed instantly. this interview was executed excellently. the dynamic between talib and jasmin is tuned just right and keeps the flow of the interview fresh. the trip into race and culture was handled honestly and intelligent, you get what empathy is supposed to mean when jaime speaks on it. thanks for the hip hop lesson, I’ll have lots to backlog while I wait for rtj4 to drop

    • @UPROXXVideo
      @UPROXXVideo  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We appreciate you!

  • @gregorydavis5374
    @gregorydavis5374 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    This episode is so rad! Love the story about Zack De la Rocha. Superb show. Thanks

  • @fairplayterrific147
    @fairplayterrific147 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    "Patriotism" From Soundbombing 2 Album One Of My Favorite Songs EVER EL-P Really Delivered On That....

    • @jaimemartinez2528
      @jaimemartinez2528 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Absolutely!! The hottest joint in Soundbar 2

    • @jaimemartinez2528
      @jaimemartinez2528 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Soundbombing 2

    • @fairplayterrific147
      @fairplayterrific147 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jaimemartinez2528 It's A Classic But For Me I Wouldn't Consider It The Best Track. There's Too Many Stellar Tracks On That Compilation. Hell Eminem And EL-P Should Link Up To Do A Track Run The Jewelz Vs. Bad Meets Evil Maaaaan.......😲

    • @jaimemartinez2528
      @jaimemartinez2528 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      And That's fair my brother. You are 100 percent right, there are way too many to say that this is the best song. I just said it because El-P said it in the song lol

    • @fexcab
      @fexcab 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Went in the way back machine for that one

  • @WrekonizeTheMusic
    @WrekonizeTheMusic 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Forever one of my heroes and inspirations talking to another emcee who’s influenced me greatly for decades. Great conversation! Thank you Kwa and UPROXX!

  • @rexarstrongheart8880
    @rexarstrongheart8880 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Two of my favorite emcees getting real and giving perspective. Thank you for the opportunity of listening in and sharing your thoughts and views. Can't wait for that RTJ4... maybe a Blackstar 2?

  • @teepcarrington6950
    @teepcarrington6950 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for this one. Liked and shared before I've even watched this

  • @nicknice2159
    @nicknice2159 4 ปีที่แล้ว +101

    Funcrusher still gets played in 2019 .....................3x daily

    • @MegaFlorest
      @MegaFlorest 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Great album...but 3x a day?! 20+ years of music since then...you need to branch out.

    • @drokillakush5116
      @drokillakush5116 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Understandable, one of the greatest hip-hop albums of all time, in my humble opinion

    • @seltic13
      @seltic13 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      You must be entirely too fucking nice.

    • @AlexGarcia-ul4fi
      @AlexGarcia-ul4fi 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@seltic13 el the don digital pass it on to the right!

    • @MrBjnelson
      @MrBjnelson 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Daily dosage.

  • @Elite_Txm
    @Elite_Txm 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    For a white kid from the Eastern Suburbs of Melbourne, Australia….hip-hop opened my eyes to everything. It was an awakening. And now, as a middle aged guy it’s still a major part of everything I do, how I feel, what I think, how I live my life, how I raise my kids, everything.
    There is always a little piece of hiphop in my heart. El-P says it best. - thank you for the interview 🙏🏽

  • @ginobds2344
    @ginobds2344 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great interview!!! Cool to see an El-P interview especially over an hour long. Can’t wait for RTJ4 👉🤛

  • @RaiRaiBrown
    @RaiRaiBrown 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I will always have the upmost respect and admiration for Taking Kweli. I'm so glad I've been able to see him and Blackstar perform live in CT numerous times. He was very kind to me, and I have two awesome pics with him.

  • @B-Nice
    @B-Nice 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The musicians from those Rawkus days were all incredible!! That music helped me in my most developmental stage as a human being. Thank you Co-Flow, Kweli and Hi-Tek, Mos Def and the rest!!! Great discussion.

  • @philpheburbs
    @philpheburbs 4 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    El-P was so on point in this interview. Appreciate your thoughts and your honesty dude.

    • @UPROXXVideo
      @UPROXXVideo  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Such a good talk between 2 legends. Thanks for tuning in!

  • @Automation.Records
    @Automation.Records 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic video, thank you so much for making this available.

  • @NinoJoy
    @NinoJoy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks Uproxx ! You're the greatest hip-hop conversational channel. Love you el-p, from a hiphophead and - maybe fellow - anarchist in france

  • @Nicole-ww4lg
    @Nicole-ww4lg 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    as a student of all kinds of music, i liked to hear el-p's family story. it adds another layer to his music for me. thanks people's party. i love this podcast

  • @mariofernandez7598
    @mariofernandez7598 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great show, that early Rawkus era was my favorite. First time I heard co flow it blew my mind. Much respect to kweli and El-P. Co flow one of the most underrated groups, el-p as a MC and a producer is one of the most slept on ever!!

  • @hermannmann3875
    @hermannmann3875 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So passionated. Damn, I love this guy.
    Been waitin for the next solo realease for years.

  • @CambreyGoG
    @CambreyGoG 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I ended up here because, like many, I'm so waiting for RTJ4. I didn't know this channel even existed, and I loved every minute of this interview, and not just because of El-P. Amazing interview format. Naturally, I subscribed.

  • @cesarsjogren
    @cesarsjogren 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Easily my favorite interview here. El-P is a legend

  • @TheFovak
    @TheFovak 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    These guys are absolute legends!
    Great conversation!

  • @vengeur4076
    @vengeur4076 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thanks so much for this interview. Goosebumps at 1:17:35. BLESS.

  • @oodlesofhoes
    @oodlesofhoes 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I bought an End to End Burners/Krazy Kings single when I was 14 in 1998 and this dude has always been an idol.

  • @ChaosandComics
    @ChaosandComics 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Best El p interview I've ever heard

  • @belladsenso
    @belladsenso 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Couple of legends right here. El a rare genius whose production & pen game & longevity are arguably unmatched.

  • @benniecameron6441
    @benniecameron6441 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I came here for El-P but wow Peoples Party is legit too! I love real talk and real connection, thats why I dig El-P and so thank you for having him as a guest. I feel like peoples party and El-P just helped each other out and that helps bring all of us together.

  • @theonemrham
    @theonemrham 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent interview!! Gained even more respect and insight on El-P... Enjoyed RTJ 3 & RTJ 4 has grown on me the more I listen to it. I just wished that it was a longer album.

  • @dirtporcelain
    @dirtporcelain 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Love watching people that know their shit interview people I wanna see interviewed. 1 and a half hours went by so fast.

  • @chrisbeffa8890
    @chrisbeffa8890 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Outstanding interview. First time I've ever heard El-P talk politics or who he supports, so props for getting that out of him.

  • @bradwisebeats5158
    @bradwisebeats5158 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Another great episode, best part of my Monday morning.

  • @rahGrebelsoulsound
    @rahGrebelsoulsound 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    RIP CAMU✊❤️
    Thanks for the shout out to my dude.
    Unexpected & deeply appreciated.

  • @KREMDemiK82
    @KREMDemiK82 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    FINALLY! El has been a huge influence on many of us. And others know him strictly from RTJ. El has been my personal fav producer since CanOx Cold Vein album. A true Juggernaut, DefJux had one hell of a run! Peace to all El Stans!

  • @alexandersoricelli3891
    @alexandersoricelli3891 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Very cool to hear EL talk about his relationship with Zack... so stoked to see Rage and RTJ in AZ✊ now if only I can get a ticket lol

  • @Ryan-ix6dt
    @Ryan-ix6dt 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Just found out about this channel and I love it. This is the kind of hip hop I like.

  • @Michael-fs1cw
    @Michael-fs1cw 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Loved this video. Thank you for the great content!

  • @juniastainbank2920
    @juniastainbank2920 4 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    "If empathy and connection doesn't come with it, then what's the Goddamn point?" - Uncle El. (58:30)

  • @LabordayzOH
    @LabordayzOH 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is dope. El-P and Kweli talking hip-hop. Been listening to these guys since the 90's.

  • @calvarsity81
    @calvarsity81 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So happy for this and I can't believe Im seeing this for the first time...literally one of my favorite rappers of all time.

  • @PuffinPass
    @PuffinPass 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great interview, thank you for sharing this conversation. Last Good Sleep is super powerful, it is interesting that he revisited that idea again later with Stepfather Factory. I started following El-P due to his super densely layered production style, still to this day there are only handful who create such deep musical landscapes and even fewer who do it right...then he lays these heavy conversations on top of all that with just enough humor interlaced so that you don't lose all hope.

  • @dillwill1813
    @dillwill1813 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Wow what a great interview, very professional and informative. Like real hip hop.

  • @lauderdale77
    @lauderdale77 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Already my favorite interview

  • @jensiegangsta
    @jensiegangsta 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you. A joy to watch. Very true closing statement Kweli made; here’s a man that does not stop growing. A hero for me since 8 steps to perfection.. Keep it moving

  • @type1ne802
    @type1ne802 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    These guys understand it. As a musician who doesn't get to much attention we just do it for the music stuff for the love of it. being able to do what you love for a living is such a blessing

  • @jabiggie
    @jabiggie 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Jesus that Bjork bit at 21:40 almost killed me

    • @mmmyeah7
      @mmmyeah7 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      😂 his reply is jokes......sipping his drink mmmmm well as Bjork once said hahahaha could watch this on repeat for ages nice one

    • @atticusrex9468
      @atticusrex9468 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you King

  • @KREMDemiK82
    @KREMDemiK82 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This has more views than most all talibs interviews. I had no idea so many people were into El-p. I knew he was special but seeing RTJ pop off makes me so happy. El isn’t capable of making bad music, his ear is so unique. His rhythm roulette episode shows his brilliance and how his ear finds samples to stab to create his signature sound. Listen to his season of Whatbhad happened was w open mike eagle hosting. It’s AMAZING. new episodes every week

  • @topbackpodcast2615
    @topbackpodcast2615 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One of the best interviews I’ve seen El-P in. Very in-depth. Who better to interview El-P other than a fellow New York Legend MC. Much love to Kweli!

  • @perryrodriguez
    @perryrodriguez 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I remember listening to an interview with Andre 3stacks and he said when he finally went to NY he now understood why all the beats from the NY sounded the way they did. EL-P reaffirms his understanding in this interview. Dope interview Talib!

  • @illwill1991
    @illwill1991 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I really REALLY do not like hearing Talib Kweli saying "amazeballs"! I wasn't even paying attention I just put this on and started doing something else but then all of the sudden I'm hearing Talib Kweli saying the word "amazeballs" and I can not describe to you the feeling of just deep sadness that just washed over my soul!

    • @gobshite
      @gobshite 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      What's next? 'Totes amazeballs'?
      I agree
      Shit diction

  • @Playam
    @Playam 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    One of the most interesting interviews I've heard that I can remember. Fantastic musicians.

    • @UPROXXVideo
      @UPROXXVideo  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Def one our favorite episodes too

  • @thekerneljames
    @thekerneljames 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another stellar conversation. Really enjoying these. Thank you.

  • @alistairevans8204
    @alistairevans8204 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Only just watched this now. 25 years into El-P's career and Talib and Jasmin conduct the best El-P interview i've ever seen or heard, The research, the history and the friendship made this an absolute must watch. Timeless.

  • @metzyahrosenstein4827
    @metzyahrosenstein4827 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Just got into RtJ, love this dudes work like you wouldnt believe, Killer Mike and El P are a murderous duo. Side note, Taleb is a great Interviewer, legends at the table on this one.

  • @adamquenano8563
    @adamquenano8563 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Two of Brooklyn’s GOATs.Def Jux my favorite label with the dopest lyricists

  • @JamBurglar
    @JamBurglar 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank you for asking him about "Last Good Sleep".

  • @wordswrite8862
    @wordswrite8862 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Two of my favorites!! Kweli and EL-P! EL-P has one of the best catalogs in Hip Hop. Always been himself, no one else. Props!!

  • @libertsoci
    @libertsoci ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This interview was incredibly emotional, El-P is a real ass dude 👍🏽

  • @jtaylorny12306
    @jtaylorny12306 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Soundbombing vol 2 was my underground hip hop starter kit.

    • @BryanWalla
      @BryanWalla 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Me too. I heard that and never looked back.

    • @andrewfreeman88
      @andrewfreeman88 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Soundbombing 1 was better though

  • @haydndalton
    @haydndalton 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What a great interview. Love how these guys just talk and are so open about a lot of personal stuff. Last Good Sleep is a frggin' great track. Thanks for this Talib!

    • @Mr.InbetweenFX
      @Mr.InbetweenFX ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not a lot of people know that track by name! Great track, my favorite is "The Fire In Which You Burn"

    • @haydndalton
      @haydndalton ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, loved that track, too. It was the standout on Funcrusher. I’d never heard anything like it. Absolute classic.

  • @Thedrumsthebass
    @Thedrumsthebass 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This dude will forever have my respect for putting on legends from my Hometown.
    #RIPCAMUTAO

  • @michaelelliott2194
    @michaelelliott2194 4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    I woke up early for this. Love EL-P and love this podcast. Hope you get Willie D or Scarface (or both) on soon!

  • @mcdh8592
    @mcdh8592 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Such a great interview.

  • @draxopolis
    @draxopolis 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Precious interview. Much respect from Italy

  • @RemyCadier
    @RemyCadier 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I came back to this interview 4 times to re watch parts and ingest the whole thing. Really good interview and Talib is a great interviewer. Loved it all the way to the end. Thanks guys. Solid.

    • @Liamdbuckley
      @Liamdbuckley 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Far superior interviewer than many or most who have been doing it for decades. His questions are very carefully considered and contextually naunced. Few interviewers can do this.

  • @josephgill734
    @josephgill734 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love this interview. I think it be cool to have little brother on here. Great comeback album. Thanks again. Keep up the good work 👌🏻

    • @UPROXXVideo
      @UPROXXVideo  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      We hear that!

    • @JBaked
      @JBaked 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hell yea n maybe Rakim???

  • @andydolan4242
    @andydolan4242 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    RTJ, best thing to happen to hip hop since Public Enemy. Killer Mike should have been a household name way before but I'm glad him and El-P found each other and made the tightest shit this decade. Thanks guys, you brought me and my daughter something that brought us together musically

  • @heavensshelf1095
    @heavensshelf1095 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Still coming back to watch this video.. Been a big supporter of El since Co-Flo days, some of my best memories are of smoking my tires leaving school bumping patriotic flow off soundbombing 2 back in my senior year of high school.. I remember going to shows in detroit back in the day feeling like I was in on something good that not many knew about, because the venues were small, and now I am just happy to see Jaime and Mike doing arenas now.. If anyone deserves it, if there is anyone that has paid the dues, El is one of them.. cheers mf'r..

  • @zezty4295
    @zezty4295 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I lovee the timestamps thank you.i think all podcasts should do it if possible and I know I shouldn't need them but they come in handy for notes.